"Bill Hader"

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Speaker 1 Wait, two pieces of business right up front.

Speaker 2 Okay, let's go, business.

Speaker 1 One, Jason Bateman, just recently won the Screen Actor Skills Award.

Speaker 2 Oh, we couldn't be happier. That was a minute ago, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 Flipped out. This is going to air months.
Months. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 1 But it just kind of happened recently, and it was really exciting. A little tear, I got welled up.
I was so happy and so proud.

Speaker 2 I'm just trying to chase you. What do you got? Four of them now? I got four.

Speaker 1 Who's keeping score? Who's keeping score?

Speaker 2 You are. You're getting score.
No, that's right.

Speaker 1 Shit. So four.
Yeah. Four.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, we're, we're trying. Um, and I wish my hair looked as good as yours this morning.
You, did you get up early? What do you have a callback or something?

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Speaker 2 Oh, that is the merch store is up, isn't it? Yeah, it's up. Here's what I say about our merch: sleep in it, don't sleep on it.
You know what I mean? Oh my God. Are we paying you extra for marketing?

Speaker 2 I know. No, all of this stuff, and these are just the tops of headsies,

Speaker 2 as I call them, tops of headsies.

Speaker 1 Wait, and then the other order of business is Jay had an emergency root canal yesterday. Yeah.
Why did, did you not feel it coming on? Why did an emergency?

Speaker 2 I did.

Speaker 2 It was whenever I would crunch on something that didn't crunch, you know, like

Speaker 2 a popcorn kernel that doesn't. Well, no, pills, if you really come down and like, I need this, it will collapse.
Sure.

Speaker 2 But, you know, a bacon bit. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 How many bacon bits are you eating?

Speaker 2 What are you talking about? Stuff like that would send me into, down to my knees.

Speaker 2 Well, you eat so many nuts. And by the way, insert joke here, but also nuts here,

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 2 you do eat a lot of nuts. I do, and seeds.
And sometimes seeds don't collapse either on a hard time.

Speaker 1 So anyway, it's hard for me to go down on nuts, too.

Speaker 2 The seed is stored in the nuts, right? The seed is stored in the nuts. Yes.
Yes. Yes, see, I hear what you did there.

Speaker 1 So it was all of the sudden?

Speaker 2 So yeah, so I had a bad bite on some overly fried

Speaker 2 rice kernel that was fried up too hard in the pan. So that took me down a Sunday, and then I had to get in there Monday.
And so what they did was...

Speaker 2 Was that pre-SAG Awards? Yeah, was that? It was. It was.
I managed to fumble through my acceptance speech with a hurt tooth.

Speaker 2 I've got skills, you know, pain. So you were able to, you just kind of grip what was ever, what was left of your teeth and got through it?

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 1 So in a a sense, you acted like everything was okay.

Speaker 2 I was up there for acting excellence. Yes, yes, no one was the wiser, Sean.

Speaker 2 Um, and so, uh, so then, so then, uh, I sat in the doctor's, uh, the dentist's chair yesterday morning, um, and uh, and he, he said, yeah, you're gonna need a root canal.

Speaker 2 And I said, when do we do that? He goes, well, we can do it today if you want to.

Speaker 2 And he just stared at me, and I stared at him, and he blinked, and I blinked, and he wondered if I had, you know, the stones to actually go for it. And I was like, let's do this.

Speaker 2 And he's leaned the chair back and he, yeah, I know. And he went in there, started drilling.

Speaker 2 And about 45 minutes into drilling, right, when I thought I was through the worst of it, he then gives me a play-by-play, says, okay, now I'm going to slice out the root.

Speaker 2 Or, no, no, he says, now I'm going to remove the nerve. Oh, God.
You don't need to tell me.

Speaker 2 Like, I just pictured this, you know, big, large, animated, angry, red worm that he's going to slice through and pull out. And I just, it was just so dumb of him.
It's a lot of nerve.

Speaker 2 Yeah, was it was it

Speaker 2 takes a lot of nerve really good. Oh Sean, are you getting the facts? Did a fax just come through Sean? What happened? Sorry listener.
We gotta wait. Sean's doing some reading.

Speaker 2 Is it okay Sean? Should we pause?

Speaker 2 Okay, let's turn all the devices off. Everything's on silent.
Do you think people are do you think people are just like butt-printing you? What's going on?

Speaker 2 With their butts. Sorry, I butt-printed you.
Nothing that's an emergency comes through the fax anymore, Sean. No.
Uh-uh.

Speaker 2 I got a phone call. I got a phone call.

Speaker 2 Hang on a second, guest. Will's not done.

Speaker 2 Well, we can cut this up, but I got a phone call from our friend Conan O'Brien yesterday. I saw I missed it, so I called him back.

Speaker 2 Don't even speak his name to me. And I texted him.
I guess it's about the holidays next year because everybody we're doing

Speaker 2 on the list already. He's sending out the group photos from everybody.
You know,

Speaker 2 this motherfucker. I guarantee you our guest was at that party.
I guarantee you. We're going to open with that.
So I said, sorry, I missed your call. And he goes, it was a butt dial.

Speaker 2 Even my ass hangs up on you.

Speaker 2 That is a problem about having

Speaker 2 your name be starting with an A. You get all the butt dials.

Speaker 2 I get all the butt dials from people all the time.

Speaker 2 All the time.

Speaker 2 Anyway. What's even more pathetic is that you called him back.
Hey, man, you didn't leave a message. Do you want me?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 we had been texting, and then so I figured that he was like sick of texting. So he just wanted to get to phone.
So I was like, no,

Speaker 2 didn't want a longer conversation. And I had been kind of shitty.
I'd said to him, because he'd been texting me this thing, and he was like, can I ask you to the, I go, yeah, man.

Speaker 2 I go, I'm a very busy person. Wait, he was inviting you to something else? Yeah, he's doing this, you know, his Easter chamberee.

Speaker 2 You couldn't even get that out, could you? God, you are talk so quick today, Willie.

Speaker 2 Good for you. Easter chambere.

Speaker 2 Who says jamboree?

Speaker 1 How do you have that word ready?

Speaker 2 You know what I just noticed after how many years now, Will? That when you laugh really hard, you'll hold your left eye as if it's going to pop out.

Speaker 2 It's just the left eye that's loose, I think, right? You just hold right underneath the eye.

Speaker 2 I think that's my drifting.

Speaker 2 So it'll fall with a real big laugh.

Speaker 2 Gang, this week's guest is one of my favorite people and talents. Here we go.
He is able to make you laugh or cry. He can act or direct.
He also writes and produces.

Speaker 2 Ladies, he's a Gemini, an avid reader, and allergic to peanuts. Sounds like a catch.
Peanuts. Peanuts.
Peanuts. I should have pronounced that better.
He's been a part of 50 movies and a lot of TV.

Speaker 2 In fact, there, he's received three Emmy Awards, three DGA awards, three WGA awards. But the three daughters he has are his favorites, guys.

Speaker 2 He's a lover, not a hater. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Bill Hater.

Speaker 2 Everybody.

Speaker 2 Hello. Hello.

Speaker 2 I think I'll bet you I've got to be the best at the intros. Can we just say that? Well, I was just saying say that when you were saying it? I was like, oh, it's very sweet.

Speaker 2 Will is always improvising them. I take time and I shape them.
I shape them. That's what's the worst part.
I think that's the most damning thing is that you actually put time into that.

Speaker 2 Hi, Bill Hater.

Speaker 2 Hi, buddy. How are you guys?

Speaker 2 How are you doing, man? Bill. How are you guys? Good to see you.
So, Bill, did you go to Conan's Christmas party? I did. Yeah.
I did. And were you invited the year before as well?

Speaker 2 I was. Yeah.
Yeah, those are intense. How many years has he been having that?

Speaker 2 I mean, wait, however long he's had that house. Oh, Oh, yeah, were you guys? Were you guys there when the couch caught on fire? Were you guys there when I've always been there?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, when the couch he's inside and he's talking.

Speaker 2 And you know, when Conan's had a couple, two glasses of wine, because he's like, when I was a rider on Saturday night live, and then behind him, his couch caught on fire,

Speaker 2 and it wasn't a bit it wasn't a bit, and we were all like going, Conan, the house is on fire, and he went, oh, wow,

Speaker 2 But it was very sweet.

Speaker 2 Wasn't he? Was he head writer by the time he left? I think. Or no.

Speaker 1 I love Bill Hayters on the phone when we're talking about Conan.

Speaker 2 No, but no, I think Conan, he had to be like one of the top writers on the show. Yeah, I don't know if he was ever a headwriter, but he certainly is.
Bill,

Speaker 2 I think, I think, I think Jim Downey was always the headwriter when he was there. Yeah, Jim Downey.
Cameron.

Speaker 2 Couldn't book him.

Speaker 2 Hey,

Speaker 2 Bill,

Speaker 2 what's number one on my list here? Fascinating wiki page, by the way.

Speaker 2 Have you ever read your wiki page? Have you ever edited your Wikipedia? No. No?

Speaker 2 No. Will, have you ever read your Wiki page?

Speaker 2 Don't lie. Yeah, I've read it before, sure.
Haven't you? Sean? I have not. Sean?

Speaker 1 Read it years ago.

Speaker 2 I have no idea how it looks now. I think you can get in there and change it, right? Didn't we change

Speaker 2 Thoreau's once? Yeah, Kimmel used to change Thoreau's, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 we wrote on Thoreau's Wiki page that

Speaker 2 he's a, I don't think we called him a come crier, but we said that he does he does cry after he ejaculates.

Speaker 2 And it stayed there for a good day or two, I think. We told him about it on his birthday.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Hey, Bill.

Speaker 2 Were you interested in comedy as a kid? Oh, geez.

Speaker 2 Come here for this interview. This is like a German interview.

Speaker 2 Will you the class clown?

Speaker 2 In Germany, the clowns are very sad.

Speaker 1 Bill, you know what I can't help think, and I'm so sorry to bring this up, but every time I see you and we're all fans, that is, is the story of Megan Malally seeing you and calling Warren Michaels

Speaker 1 and like saying, hey, you need to see this guy. Is that true?

Speaker 2 And you got 79?

Speaker 2 That's amazing. Yeah, that's an incredible story.

Speaker 2 I was at a class. I was at a class show at Second City LA and her.

Speaker 2 brother-in-law, Matt Offerman, and I were in the same show together.

Speaker 2 And she saw me and it was like, you know, she's from Oklahoma. I'm from Oklahoma.
So anytime you meet someone else from Oklahoma, you're like, okay, you know, there's a mural of them someplace.

Speaker 2 And then it was always like, oh my gosh, you know, and she was like, you're really funny. And that was, and I didn't think anything.

Speaker 1 But had you auditioned for Aston L before?

Speaker 2 No, no, no, no. I didn't have it.
And she was like, you're really funny. And I was like, oh, thanks.
And I was working as an assistant editor on Iron Chef America. Wow.
That's really what I was doing.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 You couldn't get the main gig on that. I know.
I couldn't get the main gig.

Speaker 2 I couldn't get the main gig. That's true.
Being assistant editor is a lot of like, Bill, get the lights, you know, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Assistant editor was like,

Speaker 2 Bobby Flay electrocuted himself. Can you take that out? You know, or whatever.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So now, so Megan Malally was that close to Lauren Michaels that she could actually pitch.

Speaker 2 I guess so. I think she had just hosted.
Okay. And so she called him up.
And then I got a call from,

Speaker 2 I was in my Edit Bay and Lindsay Schookas called me. No, I was like, I work, I hey, it was Lindsay Schukas.
Um, and she was Mar, you know, Marcy Klein's like, yeah, she was brand new.

Speaker 2 Whisperer, yeah, yeah. And she said, Hey, you know, Lauren, like to meet you, blah, blah, blah.
I was like, you know,

Speaker 2 Lauren, Lauren would like you to come and wait in the hall outside of his office at 13 hours and then meet him at 4:30. Yeah, I met him at 4.
No, that's

Speaker 2 100% what happened. Nothing makes me more nervous about the auditioning process than waiting to go in.

Speaker 2 I went in and I was just sitting there, and then I sat in that outer office on the ninth floor for four hours. And then someone came in and was like, Hey, we're gonna go have dinner now.

Speaker 2 And I was like, With Lauren? And it was like, Oh, no, no, no, no, just you and me.

Speaker 2 And then that's like awkward, small talk, very nice people.

Speaker 2 And then, yeah, I finally was at dinner with. Who was that dinner with? I was just Lindsay, and oh my gosh, I forget the other person, uh, but it was one of his assistants.

Speaker 2 And then this is like 2000, early 2005. And then I, and then I finally go in to see him and he goes, do you know why you're here?

Speaker 2 And I said, oh, Megan Millie said she saw me. And he's like, you know, I was on a boat once

Speaker 2 with a guy.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 he was funny the way that Bill Murray is funny. And I thought to myself, I know Bill Murray.

Speaker 2 And that's the end. And then it was like, do you want to hang out tomorrow and watch the show? And I was like, sure.
And he was like, all right.

Speaker 2 And you know who, and then you know who hosted the next week when I did my show was you, Jason. Me? When you hosted the first.

Speaker 2 That was when it was Tuesday night riding night of when you hosted. They made the cast, some of the cast members and people come and watch me perform.
No way. Because I remember.
Early 2005.

Speaker 2 That was like January, 2005. February.
Yes. Yeah.
How do you know that, Will? How do you know that, Will? Jesus. Because Because I have a fucking crazy skill.

Speaker 2 And I was sitting there going, they go, Yeah, we're writing. Jason Bateman's hosting this weekend.
You know, we got to get back. So hurry.
Come on. You got to like, because I think it's writing.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I had a sketch group and my like

Speaker 2 sketch/slash audition piece was in the middle of the show. And Lindsay shook us around the back and was like, just do that sketch.
Come on, we got to go.

Speaker 1 But here's my question, though.

Speaker 2 It's like,

Speaker 1 so Megan made this call that Lauren Lauren called you.

Speaker 1 But did you have any aspirations to do that? Or were you just like, sure, I guess I'll show show up because somebody called?

Speaker 2 I always, well, I came to LA to be the director. Those were always my heroes.
You know, I would like writing, directing. And then,

Speaker 2 but I, you know, I mean, back, especially late 90s, early 2000s, it was still like, it had to be on film, you know, me and video didn't look good now. And I had no money.

Speaker 2 So a way to be creative was a friend. of mine said, oh, do you want to take classes with me at Second City? And we'll just mess around.
And it was really fun. but it was always like.

Speaker 2 So, when I got on SNL, I was so envious of the Lonely Island guys that they were making short films. Yeah, yeah.
So, I was like, Well, can I go hang out while you guys are making those?

Speaker 2 So, I can, because that's my world. That's what's with the digital shorts for Tracy.
Yeah, yeah, for Tracy.

Speaker 2 I remember, Bill, I remember early on when you came on the show, like early, and we were at an after-party with your folks. It must have been one of your first shows.
Do you remember that?

Speaker 2 We were sitting outside. My dad lost his mind over Will.
My dad, really, they were huge arrested.

Speaker 2 His parents were huge arrested fans. Remember that, Bill? Yeah, my dad goes, no fucking way.
Will I met? Holy shit. Holy shit.
And he kind of had Will up against the wall.

Speaker 2 It was just that place that's right across the street from 30 Rock.

Speaker 2 On 6th Avenue, it's a good thing. Exactly.
Yeah. Fuck Bill Good.
And I was going, dad, dad, dad, dad, relax. And he was like, no fucking way.
You're out of my face, Bill. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I remember Bill, and Bill was like, new, and Bill just kept going, I'm sorry, man.

Speaker 2 And I was like, dad,

Speaker 2 your parents were super nice.

Speaker 2 Oh, oh it made me it i was gonna have a panic attack because i heard my i was had my back turned this is back when i smoked so i was having a cigarette that's right and i was and behind me i hear will arnett bill senior and i was like oh my god no

Speaker 2 no

Speaker 2 he starts stubbing out the cigarette stubbing out the cigarette no

Speaker 2 I remember one time my mom went over and sat at Lauren's table and I look over there and Paul Rudd was like, he kind of, he goes, Bill, are you clocking this?

Speaker 2 And I turn around and my mom is sitting at Lauren's table in between Marty Short and Steven Spielberg. And I just walk over there and I'm like, she's coming with me.
I'm sorry. Come on.
Come on.

Speaker 2 You know, just like, oh my God. It's like, they're all so short.
Were you?

Speaker 2 They're so tiny. They're all so tiny.
Were you, I would imagine. Like they're not even there in front of them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. Were you confident that

Speaker 2 you were a comedian and were able to make a living in comedy, given that you were kind of just wanting to be a director and go that route?

Speaker 2 And then all of a sudden you find yourself with a job as a comic.

Speaker 2 Did you feel like, great, well, let's do this now? Or were you like, uh-oh, they're going to find out? I don't know what I'm doing. Oh, I don't know what I'm doing.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I was, I mean, to have that, those people who were in there when I showed up, you know,

Speaker 2 I was really intimidated, you know, so I was like, they all had second city,

Speaker 2 you know, groundlings. I remember I came in with JP,

Speaker 2 yeah, comedy Chicago Monster. Oh man, and I just was like, I don't, I remember my first table read just going, I wrote a thing with Will Arnett, Will Arnett, sorry, Will Forte, and it was

Speaker 2 so bad.

Speaker 2 And I just remember looking in the middle of it over at Tina Faye, and she just had this look on her face, like, what the fuck? I don't know,

Speaker 2 you know, and I was like, oh, God, you know, so I was, I was so, I was was very, I was

Speaker 2 incredibly, incredibly crippling, insecure, and anxious, I would say, the first four seasons.

Speaker 1 But it's almost like you were made for the show, though, because like, I'm sorry to keep harping on the same point, but it's like you should, you got this call, but you could also, you had all these characters inside of you.

Speaker 1 And a lot of the time, you know, I find it rare in a lot of sketch shows that people have so many characters like you or Mike Myers or Dana Carvey or whoever that just had them.

Speaker 2 But did you even know that you had those characters in you? No, I didn't know. No, a lot of that was like, you know, you make fun of people.

Speaker 2 You know, you do impressions of people at school or, you know, things like that, but never, you know, I don't know. You guys are probably saying, I don't know.

Speaker 2 I was not the funniest of my friends in high school.

Speaker 2 So it wasn't like I was known as a funny, like my friends in high school, when I hang out with them, I'm like, I'm like the eighth funniest guy in this group. Everyone.

Speaker 2 But you know how to cherry pick. I know how to cherry pick.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Half my shit's all Will Arnett's.

Speaker 2 Bill, you know what makes me think of is our mutual friend and all of our friend, the great Pete Serafinowicz, when he used to do that 50 Impressions of Famous, but it's all of made-up characters.

Speaker 2 That's one of my favorite things. So it's not, it's fake, famous characters.
You guys both do an Alan Alda, the killer. You both do an L and Alden.
Well, that's what people say.

Speaker 2 Alan Alda was like, we got to see Peter Serafinowicz. This is pretty insane.

Speaker 2 But you know, it does make me think, though, like, you did, you talked about the film. You did, you and the Lonely Island Boys started making video.

Speaker 2 You were in there and working with those guys pretty early. I mean, in fact, the summer after

Speaker 2 Lazy Sunday, you guys were making Hot Rod.

Speaker 2 Was it June, January? Was it June, July, or August? Well, that was September. Hot Rod was August, September of 2006.
That's fall. 2006.
That's just.

Speaker 2 It came out in seven. Yeah, it came out in seven, but it was shot in seven.
But we shot it in six. Yeah, because I remember I went up to my friend's wedding in Toronto, but I had to go.

Speaker 2 That was really fun. That was really sad.

Speaker 2 I just watched that movie with my kids, and their favorite part is you yelling, bae, bae, bae. Which one is it, hot rod? I've not seen it.
Hot rod. I've never seen that.

Speaker 2 My recollection. Do you remember there was that scene, Bill, we were shooting? It was you, me, Danny McBride,

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 Yorm. But you and Yorma were standing in front of me and

Speaker 2 fuck, I forget what happened. I kept going like, what about the little one? I kept saying,

Speaker 2 and we kept fucking laughing. And then we'd all break up.
And I was like, okay, we got to stop. We got to get one.
But

Speaker 2 what I was going to say was, you did, you got on, you started making videos with these guys really early.

Speaker 2 And fuck, I love the one that you guys did that fucking always kills me, I think holds up is that dear sister.

Speaker 2 Oh, yes, those, I mean, to be clear, those guys wrote and directed all those. It was kind of like they would come into my office and go, hey, Bill, you want to be in this?

Speaker 2 And I'd be like, yes, because I just wanted to be around them shooting stuff. Yeah, but you're a vital part.
You're still a vital part of it. That dear sister one was, I think something fell through.

Speaker 2 And that was a thing they had done before. So they're like, oh, we're going to recreate this thing we did once before.
And that was at a hotel across the street from 30 Rock.

Speaker 2 And all I remember from that one is that we started shooting it at like midnight. No way.
And then it was done on Friday night. And then it was done at like seven in the morning,

Speaker 2 Saturday morning. And I walked out and I had the choice: do I go home and try to sleep, or do I just go to 30 Rock right now and just hang in my dressing room until we start rehearsing? It was awful.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know. But it was like, it was not a fan of that.
It was you and Wig and

Speaker 2 Andy and Fred and Jason were cops at the end. And then Shia LaBeouf.
Shia LaBeouf and Fred and Jason. Fucked that.
Have you guys ever seen that sketch? Do yourselves a favor. It is incredible.

Speaker 2 The Lonely Island guy. It's incredible.
It's just incredible. I'd love everything they do.

Speaker 2 The timing of the editing of that sketch is unbelievably funny. Yeah.
It's very good. It's a masterclass in timing.
Yeah, I got to see that.

Speaker 2 And we will be right back.

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Speaker 2 So Bill, did you think that you had a fastball when you started? Was there, did you think, I'm going to do impersonations or I'm going to be the straight man or I'm going to be the crazy?

Speaker 2 Like, what did you think? Like your Vincent Price.

Speaker 1 By the way, your Vincent Price fucking kills me.

Speaker 2 Thank you. A lot of stuff was the writers would kind of, I was someone who really needed the writers.
I was always impressed with people like Fred.

Speaker 2 and Kristen and these people who would just write for themselves. You know, and you were like, man, you guys are just so confident you could do that.

Speaker 2 I really needed to go into a writer and go, you know, and sometimes it was like, well, Bill, what's a voice you do?

Speaker 2 Or what's anything? And

Speaker 2 like a lot of people, I kind of came in and my heroes and things I liked was much more weirder and kind of stranger. And a lot of, I learned the term hat on a hat.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because it was like, I was like, you can't just do a talk show. It's got to be a talk show that's inside a man's ear.
That's on the, you know, whatever.

Speaker 2 It was very Monty python-you explain, explain hat on a hat. Uh, for the it's kind of like a joke on a joke.
So, a perfect example was I did a sketch because I could do a taunt on impression,

Speaker 2 so funny, and Mike, Matt, Matt Murray, one of the great writers on the show, said, What if you did that?

Speaker 2 Panther, Panther, and we, uh, so you, so, and we had uh, Natalie Portman was hosting, so it's like, oh, what if it's you teaching her how to do different Star Wars noises as part of her SNL audition.

Speaker 2 And then I said, what if I do it as Peter Falk?

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 that thing alone is me as just an acting teacher.

Speaker 2 That's enough.

Speaker 2 But adding Peter Falk was like,

Speaker 1 can you do like two seconds of it?

Speaker 2 Hat on a hat.

Speaker 2 Oh, no. It was like.

Speaker 2 So yeah, this is a Java.

Speaker 2 Now listen, the Tantan comes from the landed horse. And the horse is, man.
Listen, come over here. Come over.
Will's holding his eye. Luke Skywalker is going to have to ride him across the icy tunnel.

Speaker 2 And he goes,

Speaker 2 that's all you got.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I just remember Seth Meyers going like, hey, buddy. Hey, buddy.
Can I talk to you for a second?

Speaker 2 It's a little bit of a hat on a hat. And I go, what? I don't know what that means.
And then I did it at dress.

Speaker 2 You're never going to believe this it died it was one of those things i think that was so funny it was one of those scenes sketches where you i could hear my footsteps

Speaker 2 i could hear myself turning a glass of water down it was like it was just echoing so so quiet you can hear the e-training

Speaker 2 train

Speaker 2 you can hear someone cough in the alphabet streets and i was like oh god this is bad news and uh

Speaker 2 and uh and i went in there and i just seth just looked at me and he might mimicked you know, putting a hat on top of another hat. And I was like, okay.

Speaker 2 And so it didn't make it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think that is so funny.

Speaker 2 Natalie must have been dying when you were dealing with her. Yeah,

Speaker 2 she seemed to like it. I don't know.
And then

Speaker 2 and then we did, I remember Dana Carvey hosted. We did a thing called the Kasims where he was Casey Kasem and I was his son, JC Kasim.
And the whole thing was that we had a terrible relationship.

Speaker 2 And it was me coming to the house at two in the morning. And he was like, Who's out there? I'm Casey Kasum.
And I'm like, It's me. Dad, it's not a burglar or a raccoon.
It's me, your son, JC Kasem.

Speaker 2 Son, get out of here. Dad, hear me out.
Son, I want nothing to do with you. And it was this very intense

Speaker 2 family drama that we were.

Speaker 2 And he says,

Speaker 2 he goes, You're always asking me, why won't you get a job? Why will you, won't you stop doing drugs? And what recording orders have more number one hit?

Speaker 2 Mariah Carey with 11. But seriously, son, I need you out of my house.
And that played to Otter's silence. I bet the audience has more silence.

Speaker 2 Otter's silence, because the audience was going, wait, did he? Wait, what?

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? And so, and I, and it's funny. Yeah, and we were just like,

Speaker 2 I just remember Dana and I were going, Dana and I were like, why didn't I, I wrote it with John Mulaney, and we both were like, why didn't that work? That was so funny.

Speaker 2 Well, do you guys ever have discussions about what? Because the dress is what? Eight? And then the show is obviously 11:30.

Speaker 2 But is there a, do you ever say, well, but the audience at eight is weird and it's different. Let's just trust that the 11:30 audience is going to love it at home.
And

Speaker 2 it's like, isn't it? I wish there was a science to it, but I do remember if the dress was hot.

Speaker 2 That was bad.

Speaker 2 If dress was really hot, I remember Polar saying like, uh-oh, hot dress, that's bad. And I was like, why? What? Oh, you know, and then, yeah, she was right.

Speaker 2 It's like, if the dress is hot, then weirdly you get like, it's a superstition thing. You get really confident.
And then when you go out to do the live show, it's like,

Speaker 1 I was to say for my sister, Tracy, like, when you say dress, it's dress rehearsal. Oh, sorry.

Speaker 2 Things that you do before the previous live show. Sorry, they have extra sketches in the dress.
Yes. So there's

Speaker 2 go ahead, Bill. Stuff that doesn't work, gets paired out.
Yeah. So dress rehearsals at eight o'clock.
We do a whole show plus like

Speaker 2 three or four extra sketches. And then we go into Lauren's office and stuff has been cut.
And then the stuff's been rearranged and rewritten. And then that's the live show.

Speaker 2 And this is after a brief conversation with the host who gets to chime in. I'm not sure to what effect about what they would like to

Speaker 2 cut or not. Yeah.
And I'm not sure if they're listening.

Speaker 2 And it's Lauren eating popcorn going, I mean, if you want to look like a fool, we can do this.

Speaker 2 You know, I once, I once, my brother-in-law played golf once

Speaker 2 years ago, and he owned a golf club. And the question is, are you going to rent or own? Are you going to rent or own? Is it a sketch cutch?

Speaker 2 You know, and then we would do those Vincent Price sketches, and it'd be between dress and hair, and like someone wouldn't do something, you know, old school impression.

Speaker 2 And Lauren would be like, Well, what if John Hamm played Herbert Marshall?

Speaker 2 And you're hearing the band playing, you're hearing the live audience being put in, and you're like,

Speaker 2 I don't know if the audience is going to know who I'm like.

Speaker 2 Fred McMurray, and it's like, how about James Mason? Anybody could drew James Mason.

Speaker 2 If I imagined you, when you're working on an impression, if I imagined you in front of a mirror alone,

Speaker 2 just like making faces and doing sounds,

Speaker 2 is that about the extent of it? Like, is it a real private kind of, or is it kind of a little here and a little there, like sometimes in the car, sometimes.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you do it in the car, or you do it around people and then it kind of comes out and it's like, whoa, that sounded good.

Speaker 2 Do you still do that, Bill?

Speaker 1 I mean, do you still? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 It's like, it's just like,

Speaker 2 yeah, it's like a,

Speaker 2 uh, my dad does this too, where it's a, it's called appropriation, where it's, you know, when you're nervous around someone, you start to talk like them,

Speaker 2 you know? And I've done that since I was a kid. Like I get very socially anxious and then you start to mimic people's accents as a way of being like, hey, I'm,

Speaker 2 like, like, don't, you know, like, we're all good. You know, it's like, we're part of the same tribe.
Don't kill me. Yeah, don't, don't kill me.
So,

Speaker 2 yeah, you start to talk like people or whatever. And then, and, and so I think that lent itself to being able to do voices, you know.

Speaker 1 When you were growing up in Oklahoma, did you do that? Like, did you have a, did you gravitate towards friends that had the same sensibility and were kind of

Speaker 1 odd like that?

Speaker 2 Or were you like, oh, yeah. And like, we weren't like weird outcasts.
No, he was trying to ingratiate himself with uh murderers. And uh, well, that too.

Speaker 2 I mean, yeah, I mean, I kind of wanted to like go, I just wanted like to get to know everybody.

Speaker 2 Yeah, um, no, but uh, like my best friend is uh is a writer on Barry, is like one of the big writers on Barry, and we've known each other since we were 15 or so. Wow, we still write a show.

Speaker 1 Great show, by the way, great show, and you're great in it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, congrats on everything with Barry. So, so working on a bridge from SNL to Barry, what about

Speaker 2 do you remember the moment where it started to become clear to you that, okay, my life is changing and going to change, and I got to kind of get my knees bent and be ready for what can be pretty uncomfortable, which is fame and recognition and responsibility and

Speaker 2 approaching your dreams?

Speaker 2 What did that feel like? Was it like when Barry came out or like after SNL ended? Yeah, I mean, to move away now from SNL, but I guess it must have started there

Speaker 2 and feeling like maybe I can now leave and see if I've got what I hope I have and try it out there. Yeah,

Speaker 2 it's nerve-wracking when you, I mean, because I remember when I left SNL, I did like interviews about it.

Speaker 2 Like I went and did like Charlie Rose and I did these things about you're leaving SNL and the attitude and everything was like, well, maybe we'll never going to see you again. You know,

Speaker 2 like, nice knowing you. That's the risk, right? No one knows.
Thanks. You know, and it was like.

Speaker 2 Maybe that's it. And so yeah, it was.
I wonder what that batting average is. What do you think the percentage of cast members that go on to

Speaker 2 careers that you can still make a living with? I don't know.

Speaker 2 I have no idea. I mean, I try to,

Speaker 2 I think it was for me, it was like, you know, it's like, if I thought of like what makes the

Speaker 2 plane stay up in the air, I would go crazy. You know, so, so I just was like, I'm just going to move forward.
and block out any sort of, because I'm very sensitive to other people's energies.

Speaker 2 So it is hard when you see, you know,

Speaker 2 agents or executives like, hi,

Speaker 2 you know, you're like, wait, am I out? Am I in? Wait, what was that? Why are you at my hands like this? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 And so I'm very, so I do kind of like put my head down and just keep moving forward and try stuff.

Speaker 2 It was pretty cool to see you start taking roles that weren't necessarily starring roles. They were these really cool supporting roles in

Speaker 2 these really fun movies that had these great big stars leading them. And I was like,

Speaker 2 it looks like you're building this foundation that is going to be around for a long time. And then when Barry happened, and especially the directing element,

Speaker 2 I was just like, so excited for you. And then talking with you afterwards and finding out about your original passion, which was directing, I just was so excited for you that that has all come true.

Speaker 2 I mean, thank you very much. Jumping around a bit, but I mean,

Speaker 2 was that always a goal for you?

Speaker 2 And that some of these, to the extent there was any strategy, that some of these, these career choices were meant to point you in that direction and finally land something where you could be somewhat of an auteur?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, I think it was always wanting to do movies and then, and then, you know,

Speaker 2 I'd written some scripts and then I was, did some acting jobs and then, but I didn't really have a lot of

Speaker 2 faith in myself it was kind of like

Speaker 2 you know it's like you you dream of a thing but you don't you know i don't know if i can do it it feels like the universe wants me to be this thing right and i'm kind of going well maybe i'm not right for this other thing and then honestly i had a meeting with hbo

Speaker 2 they had seen me in a movie called skeleton twins and they said oh you should yeah we we're interested in you being like that kind of acting in a show for us not like sketch over there and i was like okay cool and then they go you meet this guy Alec Berg.

Speaker 2 Maybe you guys come up with something. So Alec and I sat.
Great Alec Berg. Came up with the show Barry.
And it was when I went into the meeting. I haven't talked to Alec about it or anybody.

Speaker 2 And they went, who do you think should do the pilot? Michael Mbardo is like, who do you think should do the pilot? And I was like, I'll direct it. And it was just silence.

Speaker 2 And they're like, have you ever directed before? I was like, no, no, but I can do it. And Alec Berg, to his credit, kind of looked at me.
I hadn't talked to him about it or anything.

Speaker 2 And he went, yeah, yeah, he can do it. Yeah, I got, no, he'll be fine.
He can do it.

Speaker 2 And and then that's great and then he told me afterwards that he was driving home and they called him going all right can you really do it or you just

Speaker 2 yeah because that's

Speaker 2 for tracy that's a very well didn't you tell me though at one time i remember that you said that alex said to hbo yes if jason bateman can direct anybody can is that true that is a quote that's a yeah well that was a t-shirt they wear over there and the dga that was a t and the dga said the dga said yeah we let him in as a as a bit.

Speaker 2 They kept saying we let him in as a bit into the DGA. That was also at South by Southwest when they give you your key card

Speaker 2 before seasons. It's like if Jason Bateman, that's what it was.
Guys, I hope this is a joke. No, it's going to be.
It's a big, long joke, and they're giving you awards and they're giving you jobs.

Speaker 2 Because at the end, it's going to be, we're going to do a big reveal when you're like 60.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And by the way, when Jason's 60, he's simultaneously going to weigh 60 pounds.
He's whittling down, you know, and now he can't even have the nuts. So it's just the cardboard.

Speaker 2 So it's going to be 60 pounds. And then we all go, it was a fucking joke.

Speaker 2 Jason, do you ever have that happen, though, when people look at you and they go, oh,

Speaker 2 an actor is directing?

Speaker 2 If they don't,

Speaker 2 they can always be sure that I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 I'm sitting there going,

Speaker 2 what am I doing? Yeah, but bullshit. Both of you guys are smart dudes and you know what you're doing and you've been around a lot.

Speaker 2 And as you know, from the little directing that I've done, it's much more about understanding what it is that you want tonally and what you want that to be

Speaker 2 exactly and also you guys have succeeded in it it's not like you tried it and failed it doesn't but still it doesn't matter because my idea of what a director is and looks like is completely opposite for me.

Speaker 2 It's just like your idea of what 50 would be when you were 12 has nothing to do with what I feel like and look like at 50.

Speaker 2 You also know, like even the greats, as you know, there is a certain, and I say this out of, you know, with a tremendous amount of respect for all the great directors that have come out, is there's that thing of like they have to keep it special and keep it exclusive and keep you out because it they're not doing it to punish everybody else, but it's also to maintain that respect and that level of thing.

Speaker 2 It's like this guy's a great director and you could never do that. And there's a little bit of like, well, you did it.
No. You're just a human being as well.
And he's

Speaker 2 a stairs.

Speaker 2 Yeah, a little bit. And there is, and of course there are great directors, but you guys are both very accomplished, good directors, and

Speaker 2 that's how you become a great is you keep doing it. Yeah.
And also just sitting around a set and absorbing what everybody is doing to create this fake world. Like it's hard.

Speaker 2 What these crew members do is insane. It's insane.
It's really, really hard. And it's not just the director, as you guys know.
Right. Everybody's a filmmaker.
It's not the costume department.

Speaker 2 I love how many actors show up on the first day of principal photography and they're like, okay, let's get started. It's like, no, no, we've been to this

Speaker 2 probably a half a dozen times. The whole movie's shot already, basically.
But you just need to talk.

Speaker 2 Always, yeah, people kind of thinking like, well, you know, it's also, I always have a thing where you have an idea and then you go out there and you see all these people busting their ass away from their families in terrible conditions for at least 12 hours.

Speaker 2 Trying to make your idea trying to make your idea.

Speaker 2 happen. You know what I mean? I'm like, I sit and I look at that and I feel like such a responsibility to, you know, have my shit together.

Speaker 2 And as we know, as actors, that's the worst is when you have a director that doesn't know what they want and they're surly and it could be this, and you're there for, I mean, I've worked on shows where I did a show once, a movie where we did reverse splits because we kept going so late through the week.

Speaker 2 So by Friday, we started the day

Speaker 2 on stage

Speaker 2 at 1 a.m. Yeah.
And shot until 3 p.m. on stage.
Solely because a director,

Speaker 2 because a director was just like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 What's reverse splits?

Speaker 2 Okay, so like for Tracy.

Speaker 1 That's a big trace of trade.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. So like if you start, like, so you have to have like a, like certain people have to have like 12-hour turnarounds, meaning like if you work from 7 a.m.
and you, you shoot until 10 p.m.

Speaker 2 You got to start the next day at 10 a.m. Right.
You got to give people 12 hours of rest. You got to get 12 hours of rest,

Speaker 2 which includes driving home, which is a

Speaker 2 can.

Speaker 2 you gotta negotiate you gotta negotiate that no but i mean early on when you're starting that's let's not even get into portal to portal i mean what are we talking about portal to portal is like the gold like you got portal to portal

Speaker 2 now we're gonna start getting into downey's deal i mean downey's on stage for 45 minutes before he's out

Speaker 2 yeah it's anyway you go so like if you start at you know monday at work at 7 a.m and you end at 10 p.m

Speaker 2 And then you have to go, okay, now we have 10 a.m. And then they go until 1.

Speaker 2 Now Wednesday, you can't start until 1 p.m and then you can't start 1 p.m it's going to roll back even more so it's basically a director shooting 18 to 20 hour days and you got to give people their turnaround it just keeps pushing pushing pushing so so you're ending your work week saturday at like four in the afternoon yeah fraturday and you're like Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And it's solely because someone doesn't have their shit together. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And a director's defense, they never see any other director direct. So they don't know that they're not getting it done, that they're not doing it well.

Speaker 2 It's, you know, actors, crew members, everybody sees multiple directors.

Speaker 2 And then if you ever get the chance to direct, you can cherry-pick from all the good ones and not do the stuff that the bad guys did. Sean, go ahead, jump in.

Speaker 1 I wanted to say, Bill, one of the first times I was ever

Speaker 1 introduced to one of those.

Speaker 1 hysterical bad lip reading things was you.

Speaker 2 Somebody sent it to me years ago, and they're so funny.

Speaker 1 I think they were Star Wars ones or something.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And

Speaker 2 they make me

Speaker 2 laugh

Speaker 2 and i want to know are you done you're done with the subject we were on yeah directing okay he loves he loves it he just goes one age sean unbelievable and he got live remember it's okay it's fine

Speaker 2 you've pissed off the guests sean no no it's okay we can talk about bad lib reading

Speaker 1 no i always wanted to know because i know i've never met anybody who who i know who did it how i this is kind of the dumbest question in the world but i'm always interested in knowing how do you do it?

Speaker 1 Do they just run the tape and you ad lib?

Speaker 2 Well, the guy who does it is a genius and he, he just, you go to his house and he's done it already. Oh, wow.
So you just, you just,

Speaker 2 it's ADR. It's just,

Speaker 2 you're watching it going, okay, so he's done it already. And so you're trying to mimic

Speaker 2 what they've done. And it's really that guy.

Speaker 1 And it kind of just took off. And now they do it for people in Congress.
And like, I don't know how they,

Speaker 2 yeah, I have no idea how he'd

Speaker 2 know.

Speaker 2 Now, what

Speaker 2 move this around in the episode, even

Speaker 2 though it's a little bit of a double-there's a whole Sean section that is after people. Sometimes he talks, like, we say he's like a make-a-wish kid that he'll just go, I always wanted to know,

Speaker 2 how didn't you?

Speaker 2 And when we give him a t-shirt every once in a while, we're just building Steam with a Did you grow up with a dog?

Speaker 2 Now, with Barry, where are we? where are we with Barry?

Speaker 2 As we talk about.

Speaker 2 By the way, sorry. No offense to Mankawish.
Obviously, it's amazing, and we

Speaker 1 have to say that. Everybody knows you're joking.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Well, we don't. You know, we get lots of letters from people.

Speaker 2 Let them write. Just don't read them, Will.
You're right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So where are we with Barry? Are we in production, out of production? The thing with Barry. We're just waiting for Sean to come over.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he'll interrupt. That was really funny.
He doesn't think of any questions until you're actually taught. Did your parents listen to Charo?

Speaker 2 Believe me, it's exactly like that. No, but I think that's funny.
I like that.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 We just did, so we're doing editing season four.

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These are the things.

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Seems like you could jump high. Anyway, depression.
You were talking about depression.

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Speaker 2 Wait, so you're you're you're you're editing? We're editing and we just did reshoots last week. We did three days of reshoots.

Speaker 2 So I'm in this weird place of like did these reshoots and now I'm back in the edit bay plugging in what we reshot and the anxiety of like, oh, please tell me this works, you know,

Speaker 2 and seeing how it plays out and going.

Speaker 2 But then it's also that I'm also at that phase where really smart friends and people who have worked on the show or people I know, writers or former editors, I will send them the episodes to be like, how's it feeling?

Speaker 2 Haven't been sent anything. You know, well, you know,

Speaker 2 check my channel. I'll just Siri, refresh my inbox.
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 Didn't you take now? I feel like it hasn't been on for a while. Didn't you take a break? Was there a break or a COVID thing or something?

Speaker 2 yeah well we had to for season between seasons two and three yeah yeah and there's the covet and then i shot i've been waiting no i've been i did three and four pretty much back to back huh yeah because of dr fauci dr fauci

Speaker 2 yeah because of fauci because he wanted to do i keep going what's the end game what did he want to do he wanted to take over the planet what do you think that at the emmys did i say you you two jason and will were the two people at the emmys that pointed at my face and went mouth why are you wearing a mask?

Speaker 2 Oh

Speaker 2 I remember you wearing the mask. I remember yeah.

Speaker 2 Jason, you were going, why? Like mouthing,

Speaker 2 are you sick? Stay away from me.

Speaker 2 And I was, the reason was because I was shooting. And it was this thing of like, if you get COVID, we shut down for two weeks and we lose all our locations.
People got to go home. We lose crew.

Speaker 2 So I walked in and I was like, there's literally no one with a mask here. You were the only one.
I saw Bob Odenkirk and he's like, Do you have COVID?

Speaker 2 Bob Odenkirk and Bill. So we were doing Brother Solomon.
Oh my God, I was on a. Yeah.
Yeah. And I know what you're going to say.
Bill's on a recumbent bicycle. Okay.

Speaker 2 And so we got the scene. It's me and Forte

Speaker 2 and Wig. And he kept having this thing.
And but Bob was so obsessed with Bill. And he goes, oh my God, buddy.
Oh, look at Bill on the recumbent bike. He says,

Speaker 2 he says, look up in the sky.

Speaker 2 And Kristen Wigg is giving, she's giving a performance where she has to cry. She's got to cry.
Do you remember this? Yeah, so she has to cry and give this emotional speech.

Speaker 2 And the joke is that while she's doing this, the brothers Solomon are watching me as this weird guy in a recumbent bike.

Speaker 2 Well, he, he was,

Speaker 2 Bob was being one of the brothers. Solomon because Kristen was giving this amazing performance and he was like, cut, Cut, okay, Bill, what you gotta do? And she's like,

Speaker 2 and Arnett was like, Hey, Bob, can we please acknowledge what Kristen's doing?

Speaker 2 It's incredible acting work.

Speaker 2 She was doing this amazing work, and he was like, Oh my god, where did they find this thing? Did they invent this bike? This isn't real, is it?

Speaker 2 Oh my god,

Speaker 2 it was so

Speaker 2 right,

Speaker 2 it was so crazy.

Speaker 2 Kristen's drawing on all this past pain. Pain and shit.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 Bob

Speaker 2 obsessed with Bill on the fucking bike. And I just, I really respected Arnett for being like, hey, can we just acknowledge?

Speaker 2 And then You're Going to Prison is another Odin Kirk film that was incredible. That was a great one.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was a good. That was my very first audition for a movie.

Speaker 2 It was an audition for some part in that movie. No way.
Bob. And Bob, I remember reading with him, and he took my sides away and he goes don't worry about these just talk to me

Speaker 2 oh really i was so scared i was so anxious i was so anxious because i was like he's a legend and like mr show and everything and i was i was so terrified and i never auditioned before and i did the like by rote in a mirror like you know i did everything you know and i had what's the most money what's the most money you've ever spent on one trip to trade a drug oh my god Sorry about this, Bill.

Speaker 2 Now on that, while we're on food,

Speaker 2 I want to hear about your peanut allergy. When was the last time you had a real...

Speaker 2 I want to know when you had a real blow up with peanuts. How did you? Marky Short said, you know, Bill, usually people, when they talk about their allergies, it's so boring.

Speaker 2 But when you talk about it. Talk about it.

Speaker 2 I do have a nut allergy. I do have a very bad allerger.

Speaker 2 How do you know what happened? My mouth gets... It just happened to me.
It just happened to me about a month ago.

Speaker 2 I was inter, I was doing it, I was moderating a Q ⁇ A with somebody and we went and ate beforehand and I ate this lasagna.

Speaker 2 I'm at, you know,

Speaker 2 Little Dom's and I eat lasagna and suddenly my mouth goes numb and my throat starts to go pickle up and I go in the bathroom and I see. I'm getting a rash on the side of my face and I go, shit, fuck.

Speaker 2 And so I ran

Speaker 2 and there, people are still talking and mingling. I go, I'm going to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 I ran down to, there's like an Albertsons there or something, run inside, find Benadryl, take it in the aisle, took like three of them, and then went back.

Speaker 1 So you don't need an EpiPen?

Speaker 2 I was like, I got to go find an EpiPen. And I just, I just, I had no EpiPen.
So I just did some Benadryl, texted my doctor. They were like, okay, you should be fine.

Speaker 2 Okay, we're going to put in a prescription here, whatever. And we were just figuring it out.
And I ended up still doing the

Speaker 2 what would nuts be doing in lasagna? It was vegan. It was vegan, vegan cheese.
It was cashews. I'm out.
Oh, cashews.

Speaker 2 It's not unusual in Los Felos for actors just to be taking drugs in the Isles of Albanes.

Speaker 2 That is true.

Speaker 2 There was a bunch of other people, and they're like, you too, man.

Speaker 2 Now, so.

Speaker 2 I don't remember when we were at the Dodger game and

Speaker 2 I eat tons and tons of peanuts.

Speaker 2 I don't remember you getting nervous that I was near you with peanuts. Yeah, so you're not one of those.
No, no, it's not like the dust or something. I have to like ingest it.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's

Speaker 2 no fun. No, no fun.

Speaker 2 By the way, Sean just very discreetly under his thing wrote down. You just give me an idea.
Lasagna. He just wrote it down.
That's what he's going to have for lunch. He's like, lasagna, Garfield.

Speaker 2 Oh, no, I'm freezing.

Speaker 2 You know what Sean said to me, by the way, the other day? This is totally true, Jason. I haven't told you this yet either.
Sean the other day just goes, you know what I had for breakfast this morning?

Speaker 2 I had a pot roast. I had a pot roast for breakfast.
And I go, what? Just out of the blue. And I go, what? And he goes, yeah, with mashed potatoes and then I had ice cream.

Speaker 1 Nine in the morning.

Speaker 2 What are you being executed?

Speaker 2 Are you being executed? Are you undone, bro? I mean, we were at a meeting the other day. We were at a meeting the other day and they made us a cake.

Speaker 2 A cake that had our smartless pictures and names and stuff that was on the frosting on top of it. It's just like as a gift, like his sort of ceremonial.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was kind of a fun little thing. And Sean left the meeting with the cake, full cake in his hand.
No, hang on a second. Hang on a second.

Speaker 2 Before the meeting started, Sean cut into the cake and started eating it at the table, his own. Table of 30 people.
They made a cake for us. Why are the people in a business meeting?

Speaker 2 He was like, it would be rude not to have a piece. So he starts eating it, and then he took it with him in his car.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 CAA, he came down out of CAA with this cake with his own fucking face on it.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 he lives with his husband and a dog that's it so who who was that who was gonna eat that cake

Speaker 2 you said you'd have half of it done by the end of the day

Speaker 2 scotty's got diabetes he's not eating the cake so it's all sean

Speaker 2 so bill bill what's your current temperature no no no sean serious question how much of the cake is left this is uh not yet

Speaker 2 that night he had more and that morning the next morning right sean it's five days later how much is left i kind of wanted it done like if you're an adult and you have all the cake you can eat why wouldn't you eat it right are you self-aware when that's happening, Sean?

Speaker 2 Are you like?

Speaker 2 Do you have guilt? You have little nuts.

Speaker 1 No guilt. No shame.
No, you know what I think it is?

Speaker 2 Like, I just can't stop.

Speaker 1 I think because we grew up with nothing anytime. Anytime I'm like, oh my God, free cake.

Speaker 2 Free cake. Tell me how much of the cake is left.
It's gone.

Speaker 2 Really? Yes. Well, that was a week.
That was

Speaker 2 almost a week ago. Shit pig.
Yeah, you just did

Speaker 2 a shit pig. I get that.
I don't know. Don't you get it? I get it.
I do get it where it's like, what? We're just going to leave this here? Come on.

Speaker 2 I know, there is a lot of that, and there's a lot of waste in what we do.

Speaker 2 Final question.

Speaker 2 How high can you jump? If you really wanted to jump high, how high? By the way, here's the other thing. Bill, you work with

Speaker 2 our old dear friend on Barry Henry Winkler. Oh, yeah.
I love him. I love him.

Speaker 2 Henry's so sweet. The one and only.
He's the greatest.

Speaker 1 The sweetest.

Speaker 2 Yeah. He's always like you doubt his sincerity.

Speaker 2 Does he still leave his ringer on on his phone while you're rolling? Does he do that? No, no, he doesn't do that.

Speaker 2 We have a blooper reel that's dedicated from the first couple seasons of Arrested 2.

Speaker 2 Henry's phone going off in the middle of a scene.

Speaker 2 By the way, usually during his own dialogue. So he'd be doing it.
He'd be doing a courtroom scene going, what do we have to do? And then ring. Oh, my God.
Hang on. He's like, uh-oh, it's Stacey.

Speaker 2 Hold on. And Jason, we have a great blooper of Jason going, go ahead and take that.
You want to just take it?

Speaker 2 Oh, Henry, he's so sweet. Henry, one time we were doing a thing, and you know, my character fought in Afghanistan, and in three takes in a row, he said Vietnam.
Yeah, sure. He's really fun.

Speaker 2 I have him on my phone. Like, and when Barry was fighting in Vietnam, that's not right.
Hold on.

Speaker 2 And then every Friday, it's like, Henry, that was a great take where you had to have a, you know, a mental breakdown. That was really good.
He's like, you got me there.

Speaker 2 I have this chocolate bunt cake from Jersey Sleep in the trunk of my car.

Speaker 2 He is just him doing the greatest work. He does amazing work, and I think he gets very anxious about his dramatic work, but he's such a good dramatic actor.

Speaker 2 And he really will go where he needs. You know, he's not afraid or whatever, but it is funny how much

Speaker 2 he'll have that moment and then he, you know, turns it right on. You know, this season, especially, he goes through a lot of stuff, but when he'll do that, and then, yeah, he'll offer you sweets.

Speaker 2 He's such a talent. You know, he he was one of the guys when we were first doing arrested development and I was living in New York, but coming out here to do it.

Speaker 2 And I'd be oftentimes, you know, I was friends with these guys a little bit, but, you know, whatever. I didn't have anywhere.
And he and his wife, Stacey, would invite me over on Saturday mornings.

Speaker 2 And I would go over there and just, you know, have breakfast with him and with the family all the time. He was so sweet.
I love him. I know.
They were so generous.

Speaker 2 Yeah. We pretty much every month go and have breakfast like once, you know, like, and it's, and it's great.
And he is kind of like, so how are you doing? Like, outside of everything, how's your life?

Speaker 2 How's this? How's this feeling? Like, he's just,

Speaker 2 I always walk away from those feeling, you know, better about myself. Didn't you want to grow up in his house?

Speaker 2 Well, you know what was funny? Do you remember back then? Back then, it was like when his son Max was still in high school

Speaker 2 and his best buddy was Jonah Hill. And those guys were still in fucking high school when I was there.
Like, this is like 2003, like the fall of 2003.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And

Speaker 2 those guys were still in high school. Him and Jonah, and they were like, oh man, we love arrested development.
And they were like fucking 17, you know, or if that. So

Speaker 2 anyway, yeah, 2003. Sean wanted to know: have you ever had to put snow tires on?

Speaker 2 He just, he texted that in. He texted me.
He said, just please ask him.

Speaker 1 I'm so glad you got it in time

Speaker 2 don't be so shy sean that's a great question can you bill because i'm such a massive

Speaker 1 hammer i'm such a massive fan can you do just i know you're not a singing monkey here we go but can you do vincent price just a little bit because it's so fucking funny oh i'm trying to well the thing i remember uh

Speaker 2 when john mulane's first night of writing um at s n l

Speaker 2 he

Speaker 2 seth my said oh we maybe we should bring the new guy in and help on Vincent Price. And we were writing a thing, and it was: Fred would play Liberace, and I'm Vincent Price, and we're arguing.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 we're arguing as you do. Right, still with you, yep.
Yeah, so he's Liberace.

Speaker 2 This is this, by the way, this is

Speaker 2 in 2008 when people are still really excited about Vincent Price and Liberace.

Speaker 2 And as Lauren said, I like to sketch, but why now?

Speaker 2 But Liberace and they're talking and we're like, oh, what's a thing Benz and Price could say to Liberace after he burns him or something? And

Speaker 2 John Mulaney came up with the line, save your sassy sides for your windowless bars.

Speaker 2 That is so funny.

Speaker 2 That is so funny. And then he had a, I wish Fred was here to do his Liberace.

Speaker 2 And then Fred would, yeah, Liberace was always him talking about like a prince who had given him a jewel or something. Yeah, it was always.

Speaker 1 Anyway, Jack Nicholson, John Malkovich, all of them.

Speaker 2 I fucking love all of them. Oh, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 And then, yeah,

Speaker 2 that line always,

Speaker 2 we were just like, whoa. But like, what about that?

Speaker 2 Is there ever going to be another vehicle where we can see you do your impressions? Or is it just going to be like chapter clothes, bro? Yeah, just like I'm going to be able to do

Speaker 2 on like Kimmel or something, they'll be like, I think one, I went on Kimmel like not too long ago, and you had me do all the dateline people,

Speaker 2 right? Because I watch Dateline a lot, so he's like, just do all the dateline people. So I did them, and

Speaker 2 but yeah, usually it's like you're at a party or something, and you know, you know who loves impressions? Yeah, yeah, Conan, you know, who loves impressions is Larry David. Yeah,

Speaker 2 he loves Sean just did some work with

Speaker 2 his mind when you do an impression of anybody. Can you do Larry David?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Wait,

Speaker 2 who would you trust to do you? Oh, man, everybody does. Probably Sarah Financial.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, Fred does a really good me, which is he really?

Speaker 2 His impression of me, everybody's impression of me is, hey, Ben, what's going on? It's Bill.

Speaker 2 And then his impression of me is I've always just discovered a super famous band.

Speaker 2 Hey, you know who I started listening to is Bruce Springsteen.

Speaker 2 He's like, you always walk into my office and you're like, you know who? He's like, the Almond Brothers are pretty good.

Speaker 2 You start listening to them.

Speaker 1 Wait, do really quick, do Jack Nicholson watching Dateline?

Speaker 2 I don't know if I do Jack Nicholson. Oh, really? I do enjoy Jack Nicholson.

Speaker 2 Oh, you know who Larry David likes is

Speaker 2 Burt Lancaster.

Speaker 2 Burt Lancaster, when he, there's this, this guy told me a story. This made Larry David laugh really hard.
Was a guy worked for Burt Lancaster and he brought him some chowder for lunch.

Speaker 2 And he said that Burt Lancaster looked in the bag and looked up at him and he went, oyster crackers.

Speaker 2 You forgot the oyster crackers.

Speaker 2 Larry David makes me say that all the time. He's like, oyster crackers.
You forgot the oyster crackers.

Speaker 2 So well. I think, you know, that's, it's always fun.
I do it, do it on set, and it gets old fast. No, actually, nothing is.

Speaker 2 I've never had setups setups in between shots feel shorter than when I worked with you on Paul.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's just so fun to hang out with these guys.

Speaker 2 Do more of that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Do you remember when they blew up the house in Paul? Yeah.
Yeah. And I remember, and they said, yeah, you guys are going to stand right here.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 And we went, okay. And then me and you were looking at each other.
And I go, you know what? I'm going to go stand with the special effects guy.

Speaker 2 The guy standing behind a barricade.

Speaker 2 Where we were standing was a giant car or something land. Like massive debris landed where we were.
We were like, this isn't fun. No.
Yeah. That was my.
Oh, my God. Wait a second.

Speaker 2 I love that you're telling us because Jason doesn't remember anything.

Speaker 2 By the way, he never would have told us that story.

Speaker 2 Never comes up. No, he also, were you there when the guys made us drink

Speaker 2 jalapeno stuff? And like the, like, the, I think you're, weren't you with us? I might have been. It was me and Simon Pegg and everybody.
And they're like, hey, you guys are Hollywood people.

Speaker 2 You know, it was just like we were in New Mexico, and they were like, Oh, these loud Hollywood people. And they're like, Hey, here, drink a shot of this.
And it wasn't, it was pure jalapeno juice.

Speaker 2 It's not alcoholic because I was like, Oh, I don't drink. And they're like, It's, and it was jalapeno juice.
And we had to run and get milk and stuff. It was a way of like, get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 Maybe I was there. That's starting to sound familiar.

Speaker 2 That was like, that was like, that was fun.

Speaker 2 Let me tell you what was fun, Bill. Was this chat?

Speaker 2 We could do two full episodes talking. We haven't gotten into any of your incredible voiceover work in all these animated films, too.
I mean, it's on and on and on. It really is.

Speaker 2 You're an incredible talent, multi-dimensional or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 You're that.

Speaker 2 I'm a big, great

Speaker 2 fan. Thank you, great.
And a great guest. Well done.

Speaker 2 Good to see you, dude. Good to see you guys, man.
Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 I'm calling you for Dodger Game soon. Yeah, please.
All right. Have a good day, bud.

Speaker 2 Bye. Thank you.
Bye, Paul. Bye.
Bye.

Speaker 2 All right. I don't think there's anything that guy can't do.

Speaker 1 God, that is funny stuff, man.

Speaker 2 He's funny. He's dramatic.
He acts, writes, directs, produces,

Speaker 2 high-quality person friends.

Speaker 1 I'm just kind of blown away that he went on SNL and then just had all those characters. Like, what are the odds of...
Yeah, let's take a chance on Bill Hayter.

Speaker 1 And then you've got all this stuff inside of him.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's so funny. He's always got, it's funny that he said that, that he does that appropriation thing because it is, you see that in a nervous thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, where he's just like, oh, and he starts doing the voice while he's.

Speaker 2 I do that all the time with, I'll take people's laughter. I'll start laughing like them

Speaker 2 for some weird reason. And that'll be like my new laugh for a few weeks.

Speaker 1 I think it's like a common human thing.

Speaker 2 I do find that I just yammer and yammer and yammer when I'm socially uncomfortable. I will, I'll do the opposite of what you think you would do, which is just shrivel and.

Speaker 2 go into a corner and be quiet. I should just start talking.
I just start speaking whatever I'm thinking of in in my mind. Yeah, I mean, I see, I notice you at parties, and you kind of do it on this.

Speaker 2 I see you talking to somebody when you're engaging with like another person,

Speaker 2 and you're just talking at them, and you're like asking them questions, and you're just fucking, and they're thinking, like, oh, at first they're like, oh, I got to talk to Jason Bateman, and then they want to fucking kill themselves.

Speaker 2 And they realize it's like that kind of thing. And do you, blah, blah, blah.
And you're like, you're going, but the question, it's like the show.

Speaker 2 You're asking questions, but you're leading and it's on and on. I know.
And I just,

Speaker 2 often they have a look of what I would describe only as disgust. Yeah, my family kicked me out of the house a couple days ago.

Speaker 1 But you know what, Jay?

Speaker 2 With all that work on your mouth that you've had, you're talking so beautifully.

Speaker 1 And I'm glad you finally got that tooth fix. Which one was it called?

Speaker 1 I think it was a bi

Speaker 2 cuspid.

Speaker 2 Then repeat it again and say it higher. Bye.
Bye, cuspid. Look at Will harmonizing.
I didn't love it. It was too early.

Speaker 1 Well, my God, you're kidding.

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