"Jack Black"

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Hey guys, this is Sean. I know in a previous intro, I talked about like working out, getting my legs bigger, getting my thighs bigger, getting my arms bigger, just get everything like I'm just jumped and packed and jacked and whacked.
I was just like, so then after that, I thought maybe I'd work on my feet because my feet

need to be just as great as the rest of my body.

And then after that, I thought I'd look around my toes, like around my toes and my fingertips.

And I just thought, wow, I'm just kidding.

I haven't worked out in years.

Welcome to SmartList.

SmartList.

SmartL Smart. Smart.
Smart. Hey, you know, I just want to say something.
Jay, I don't know if you know this, but today... That you use a heavy bronzer? Today is...
I know. Look at how famous.
I know. Listener, Will's back from the...
Caribbean. The French Polynesian...
Not Polynesian. South Pacific.
No, not South Pacific. The French Antilles.
Do you put sunblock on or no? Yes, of course. No, he doesn't.
Of course I do. He puts on olive oil is what he does.
No, no, I don't. By the way, I met a lot of really nice Smartless listeners.
Really? Oh, in the Caribbean. Yeah, in the Caribbean.
And my buddy Todd, who I met. Oh, sure.
Sure. We don't need names, man.
Who's Todd from the Caribbean? He's just a guy who... Did you compliment him on his first name? He and his wife.
He said, he said he drew a comparison he said that Todd happens to be the name of your character from Teen Wolf oh that is true so boy thank him for watching limited channels down there on the island well he kept the lights on for you buddy so let's just maybe we'll they're playing on the latest latest. Anyway, Jason, today's a very special day.

It's Sean's birthday.

It's Sean's birthday.

Oh, yes.

Thank you.

Well, you didn't say anything, but thank you. I wasn't going to mention it at all.

Happy birthday, Sean.

That's very sweet.

Listen, when people get over their 60s, they don't want to celebrate at all, Will.

Yeah, it's true.

It's true.

Wait, by the way, you guys, I shit you not.

Can you read that?

Dear Sean, happy birthday from all of us at Garfield Pharmacy. We are wishing you all the best for the coming year.
From a pharmacy? You know, this qualifies as a bit of a flair. Isn't that crazy a pharmacy texted me? Sean, Garfield Pharmacy, did they help you put together that bath you were talking about where you can open the side of it and you can get into it? The one with the door.
I thought you were going to say a sith bath. Is that your crew? Now, Sean, happy, well, let's do that.
I know. Fastest happy birthday to you song ever.
Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to dear Shawnee.
Happy birthday to you.

Oh, Lord.

Shawnee, you are an absolute, I will say this, you're an incredible friend.

Jason, you know this.

There have been so many times, I'm not surprised, but there have been so many awesome times.

I can think of within the last month where things were going on and you just reach out in a way that a lot of other people would feel like I'll just let them kind of marinate and you just reach out and call and go hey are you okay and Sean I love you for it because I love you guys I love you too I do that I do that because I love you guys more than anything. Listener,

if you ever get the chance to be friends with Sean Hayes,

Yeah, it's the best.

I highly recommend it.

It's the best.

Take a trial.

Do a trial first.

By the way,

but now we mentioned

we love Sean.

We love you so much.

But there are people who don't.

Obviously,

one of the people is Scavo,

obviously,

because I don't know

what's going on

with your hair cut.

Or did you get in a fight

with his scissors or him? I know. Look at him.
No, that's great. That's what's coming for me on Wednesday.
Really? Are you finally getting a cut? Yeah. For folks who can't see, I've got a whole head of hair that's 30 pounds of hair.
When are you done? I just finished. I was doing a job where I had to play a fellow that was living in 1984.
It's a 1984 thing. And so all this feathering was really appropriate.
Now it's not. And so it's coming down on Wednesday.
But what was the excuse before you got the part? Exactly. Yeah, because it was long for a minute.
Yeah, but then I was about to cut it and then didn't because I got this job. I actually think it looks cool along.
Thank you. Wait, really fast, super fast, quick birthday story from when I was like, I don't know, 22.
My mom thought it'd be so great to put, instead of candles on a cake, she put sparklers, like 20 of them. I kind of like that.
Not realizing that sparklers, you know, are fireworks, basically. And they don't blow out.
And so she lit all of them, and the whole fucking thing, like, lit up, caught fire. And then she's's cutting and then after she put it all out she's you know she's like happy birthday and there's fucking fireworks all over so you mess around with fireworks you lose an eye huh well that's nice man and then she cut the cake and it tasted like sulfur nothing on eye nothing on the eye joke at all i thought it was funny maybe tracy's laughing Put an eye out.
You know who likes to laugh? Oh, what a great segue. What a great...
Hey, by the way, does anybody work a segue better than me? Double entendre. Double entendre.
Double entendre. Okay.
Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
This guy. This guy.
Oh, Jesus. Can I tell you something about this guy? Here's something you didn't know about this guy because you both know this guy.
There's two three things I don't know. Here's something.
His parents, his parents are both satellite engineers. Satellite engineers? Try engineers one more time.
Still wrong. Worked on engineers.
There it is. Work.
Ingenies. Worked on Minuteman Nuclear Missile Guidance System.
Wow. Jesus Christ.
Apollo Lunar Module Guidance System. Fucking what? The science, the ground station for the Hubble Space Telescope, things like of this nature.
And then this person is a performer. But he plays soccer.
Let's book the parents. How about that? Okay.
Hang on a second. And then this person, you would know them.
No way he's going to be as interesting. Let me think about how you're going to know this person.
You might know this person from some of these, some of the... Wow, take your time.
Take your time. No, I'm just trying to think of some of the things you would know them from.
Picket fences, maybe. Golden Palace, these are appearances.
Northern Exposure, X-Files. Oh.
No, maybe not. Maybe from The Jackal.

No, Enemy of the State.

He's saving a real one for later.

Waterworld, Demolition Man.

No, you'd probably know this person more from Shallow Hal, Nacho Libra, Tenacious Deed, The Picket Downing.

It's Jack Black.

It's Jack Black.

And School of Rock.

It's Mr. Jack Black.

Woo!

Tremendous intro. Look at that face, it's Mr.
Jack Ma! Woo! Tremendous intro.

Look at that face.

It's gorgeous.

I've just been back here behind my little toilet paper hiding spot.

Are you in the toilet right now?

Well, your producer said I have to hide myself with, like, something,

and I didn't have a handkerchief or anything, so I just...

You usually have a hanky. You're old school like that.
You've got like an old school hanky on you all the time, right, Jamie? And he offers it to people who are crying, even though it's snot stained. Quick plug, my buddy Colin Hanks has a handkerchief company called Hank's Kerchief.
Not true. Is that right? Is that true? 100% true.
Check it. Oh, Hank's so weird.
I have a mold removal company called Adjacent Abatement that I want to send you. Say everybody.
Listen, Jack, by the way, at any point, I love it so much. At any point, if you want to just do a little side, like a little quick plug ski for friends, I'm down with it.
I hated having that right out of the gate, but I couldn't not talk about my,

you talked handkerchiefs and like,

that's the first place I go.

Now, first of all, we got two JBs here

for the first time.

I mean, this is.

Oh my God.

Right?

Let's go with Jack.

I mean, there's not a better name than Jack.

You beat JB today.

Oh, you want to hold on to JB, huh?

Were you ever, Jack, were you ever a John? What the? No. In fact, my real name is Thomas.
No, it's not. Yeah, Thomas Black.
Can we back up a second? Is it really? Sean, where are you coming from? Thomas Jacob, right, Jack? That's right. Thomas Jacob Black.
So if I wanted to go short for Jacob, it would have been Jake Black. You know what would have been good for you? What? TJ.
TJ Black. TJ.
Yeah, not bad. Different career.
So I can understand if his name was Henry, you'd ask him if he was ever Hank. But are Jacks ever John? Yes.
Yeah. Of course.
That's where Jack comes from. Lots of Johns and Jonathans.
John F. Kennedy.
Thank you. Don't scream at me.
Now, Jack, I got the JB and I never asked for it. Did you ever ask for JB? I didn't know it's not cool to ask for your nickname that's not the way it's supposed to go but I'm afraid people think that I have asked for it when somebody calls me that because it sounds like JB I'm some sort of a power figure or authority that's like a a boss.
That's a boss name. But you can't ask your nickname.
Let's ask Pantswetter. Sean, sorry.
What do you... What do you...
He does. I didn't have to ask for that.
No. Jack, Jack, I can't believe it's taken us this long to have you here.
I know. We couldn't make his deal.
We can't make his deal. I feel like it's such a layup that you would be, we just, I adore you and just think you're the freaking greatest.
And I just can't believe it's taken forever, man. I'll second that.
Well, the feeling is mute. I'm a huge fan of all three of you, individually and collectively.
Do you remember when we all used to play poker at Kyle's house together? Yes. I know.
Yes, we all partied over at Kyle Gass' house to play poker. Kyle Gass is my partner in Tenacious D.
That's right. But now, are you still playing cards and music with Kyle Gass, with the K-Jerific? I am playing music with Kyle Gass.
We're still touring, and we got a very big project coming up that I can't really tell you anything about, but we got a concept album coming down the pike. Have one more sip of that morning coffee there, and then you'll feel like telling us.
I haven't had any. Does it seem like I'm amped and jazzed? No, no, I was trying to make a booze joke, you know, and you say, have one more sip of that drink, and then you'll tell me.
All right, well, maybe later. Maybe we'll earn it at the end of the session here.
So maybe we'll earn it. Maybe we'll gain your confidence, but I will say this.
So Jack, just so we can get back to Cage for a second, for one sec, Kyle Gass and his poker game. First of all, what are the odds that he's in a sleeveless sweatshirt right now? Very high.
That's his whole thing. And some loose football practice shorts.
Can I tell you something? And slides. He's always about the comfort.
So Jack's partner, Kyle Gass, who he just alluded to, and his partner in Tenacious D, and they've made a number of records and movies and a TV show for a few years. All of it.
One time, so we all played in this poker game. I forget who was our first entree into the game, but it was a Tuesday night game.
You used to play, and then we came into it a little bit later, and then we brought, and then Richter was in it, and Sean was in it. I remember Sean came in the first night, won a bunch, and there was like, I got to go home, guys.
And everybody's like, you're not going bucking anywhere. The Walsh brothers were not having that.
No, and we had Matt Walsh, and, you know, we had Patty Walsh, and we had everybody, right? So then we played in that for a couple years, and there was a lot of dough was exchanged back and forth. And some fireworks here and there.
And Cage used to have the clown car, and then he had the celebrity clown car only literal, remember he had that car and he put people in it.

But Jack, what I was getting to was, I remember going to,

you were hosting SNL once and Cage was coming.

And so he said, and I was going back to New York

because Amy was still on the show at the time.

And he's like, what flight are you?

I go, I'm going to take the red eye on Friday night.

He goes, I'll come on the same flight.

I'll meet you at LAX.

I go, great.

So I texted him or whatever.

I go, I'll meet you at the gate. And Cage shows up at the gate.
And he's in his sleeveless sweatshirt. And shorts and flips.
And slides. And he's got every single glossy celeb rag in a pile.
And I go, and I go, Cage, what are you doing? Get away from me, man. What are you doing? Yeah.
He likes reading those, man. He loves to read up on the celebs, on the latest got, the hot goss.
Now, are you guys still playing cards at all, Jack? No, I haven't been playing with Cage. We haven't been playing cards.
I miss it. And once in a while, you know, whenever there's like a charity poker game game I like to jump in there because I do love it but I do find that when I lose inevitably it does hurt there's an excruciating pain and regret that lasts for days where it's like god dang it if I would have just you know what I did I didn't have the balls to call.
Why didn't I just call?

I had queens.

And it'll stick with me and I'll feel like an idiot.

And then when I get up from the table like, all right, guys, hope everyone had a good time.

And as I'm leaving, I can see in their eyes they just have this poison of like, yes, we beat you.

We made you a fool.

And I hate everyone.

And the chips are usually sitting in front of Kyle.

And yet I do always still feel that pull

to get back in the game.

Because it's kind of fun.

It's a good place to watch a Laker game

kind of at the side of one eye.

Oh, at Kyle's house, yeah.

Yeah.

We should do it again.

We should do it again.

So, Jack, this is what I don't know.

So you started, it says here, if you look on your bio, anybody can look this up. Anybody who's got access to the internet.
Your first thing you did, you did a commercial for a vid game way back in the day. Really? Yeah.
What was the inclination? How did that, what was the thing? You grew up in Santa, you were born in Santa Monica, but you grew up a little south of Santa Monica. Hermosa Beach.
Hermosa Beach. Yep, shout out.
What was the moment? Like, what was the thing that you were like, I'm going to go out for this video game commercial? Like, how did you get, how did your path? Well, I'm sure it was just whatever gig was available. You know how it started? Yeah.
It started at a Passover Seder. We went over to a friend's house, a family friend, and she was a Holocaust survivor and a really cool lady mama of the house.
And we had our Passover Seder, good Jewish din-din, religious kind of. And then after that, she was like, now it's time for everybody to come to the living room.
We're going to play the freeze game. I said, the freeze game? And I was like eight years old.
And it was an improvisational game created by the great Viola Spolin. Sure, sure.
Jason, I heard you earlier saying yes and, so you're familiar with the dark arts of improvisation. And it's basically just like two people get up on the stage or the living room floor, whatever, what have you.
And they'll just start doing a scene. They'll make it up like, okay, we're two butter churners.
And they'll be churning butter and go, oh, the churning is so hard. I'm so sweaty.
Oh, the sweat is going into the butter. And then anyone in the audience can go, freeze.
And then they have to stay frozen like they're churning butter. And then you go up and you tap one of them on the shoulder and they leave.
And then you take their body position. And then you can change it to like, oh, I'm going to mortalize the guy.
And now you're a boxer who's like punching you. And I played that and I caught the fever so hard.
Because my eight-year-old, like, performance instincts kicked in. Uh-huh.
And I was already kind of a ham-class clown. That's what I was going to say.
Were you already kind of in that space, like, with your friends and at school and shit? Yeah. I mean, I was starved for laughs.
I loved getting yucks. Uh-huh.
And it was the sweet manna from heaven. And so then my parents divorced.
I'm not good at telling stories. No, this isn't rooting.
This will go longer than you want. No, this is perfect.
If you can get into a cry right here, that would be great. By the way, this is short for Bateman.
If you were Bateman, this would be considered short. So go ahead.
I don't think I'm going to cry, but my parents divorced. What was that like, Jack? And then I was still kind of like doing stuff.
Like I was really into Weird Al Yankovic in Hermosa Beach going to school. We would do different songs from the Dr.
Demento show in front of the classroom, me and some of my friends. And then my mom started dating this dude, David Katz, my stepdad.
And he was like a really creative guy. And he's like, Jack is very talented.
He should be doing this. I was like, I do want to do this.
I want to be on TV. And there was a kid in my class in Hermosa Beach.
I was so jealous of him. He was in a movie called Real Life by the incredible—

Oh. As a kid in my class in Hermosa Beach, I was so jealous of him.
He was in a movie called Real Life by the incredible genius known as Albert Brooks.

Yes.

Not Albert Einstein.

His real name changed to Brooks.

Was Charles Grodin in that?

Yes.

Yes.

He played the dad of the family, and the whole family is like, oh, did he play the dad?

No, I don't remember who played who. Isn't this Stiller's favorite movie? I think it might be, because it is a great movie.
And anyway. So this little punk was in it.
This punk was in it. He played the son.
He didn't have a big part, but I just was like, oh, I want what he has. How did he get that? How do you do it? And my stepfather, it's easy.
You go on the auditions. You go and you do.
Take some pictures of yourself. And I was like, will you take me? And he was like, yes.
No way. And my stepfather drove me around town, and I auditioned for all of the commercials and all the things for like a year.
I got an agent, the Jack Rose Agency. I was at Jack Rose.
You were at Jack Rose. I was at Jack Rose.
It was also Jack Rose, Dorothy DeOtis. We probably bumped into each other like a hundred times at auditions.
Was Dorothy DeOtis also on the door? I don't remember. Did you book right away, Jack? No.
I went on a few. I booked pretty quick, though.
It wasn't the first one, but one of the early ones. I was like 12 years old.
Yeah. It was the video game commercial you're talking about.
It was for Activision, for Atari. It was called Pitfall.
Yeah. I love that.
And I remember the audition. I went in there and I auditioned my ass off.
And they were like, can you do it like you're really cocky, like you're real cocksure yourself? Not a problem. It was perfect because that was my go-to acting character thing is being super confident, overconfident.
Yeah. And I just crushed it and I left the audition high.
That was the thing. Those auditions, those were like drugs to me because it felt so good to like nail it.
It didn't even matter if I got the part or not. Yeah.
If I got them laughing, I was like, I love life.

You still get that charge, right?

When you get a laugh or you're in front of an audience or a camera or something, right?

I still get a charge if I feel like a job well done.

Yeah.

Nice.

What about if you make your kids laugh?

Is it an audience of one plenty big?

Dude, if I can make my kids laugh,

that's actually the top of the heap,

and it's tough.

They are a tough audience because I'm so embarrassing to them. That's not true.
How old are they now? They are now 13 and 15. Oh, that's a tough audience.
Actually, sorry. My boy just had a birthday, 14 and 15.
I got a 15-year-old, and she just—you got to have—your shit's got to be tight, worked on, and bulletproof. But if you're going to get even a grin out of her.
Yeah. You know, you can't be workshopping material in front of her.
I just, I, go ahead. Go ahead, Sean.
I was just saying, Jason's kid, Maple, I just have to shut up and go, hey, and she laughs. Yeah, she's a little bit easier.
She likes to laugh. She'll get tough.
But the 15-year-old audience. But also, Sean's the funniest of all of us here.
Yeah, so we just admit it. Yeah, I know.
So Sean's got it. He's also the best host.
He's got the nominations to prove it. Oh, yeah, he got nominated for best host.
Wait, Jack, I want to know. I'm trying to talk over it, Sean.
This is something you should really revel in. Here's how desperate for last, and Mitch Hurwitz and I, the great Mitch Hurwitz, great rest of development, he and I would be writing stuff and we'd be at his house and then he'd be like, we need to go to Starbucks because we'd be in his

office writing all day and we just needed

to go and do, because we didn't have

an audience anymore. We were sick of each other

and we thought like the barista

or whoever's in line next

to us could probably use some

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Jack, I want to ask you about those amazing Instagram things you do because I laugh so fucking hard at those and they seem like they take weeks to film. Yeah, the fucking production value, Jack.
The energy and the effort that you they're so funny thank you for noticing yeah i mean you're in your your your superhero uh speedos yeah and you're running around like doing superhero things like what goes into those and why do you do them and is it fun to do it well i i was uh just sort of coming up with things to do during pandemic times. I was

going stir crazy like everybody. And I had that, you know, that hunger that we talked about earlier where I needed attention.
And I was also like two birds with one stone. The world needs a laugh.
Let's see if we can cook something up. So I called up my social media guru, Taylor Stevens, shout out and said out.
And I said, let's, you know what? I'm feeling like I need to do something with this WAP dance. The kids are going crazy.
It's the latest thing that everyone's trying to do their version of the WAP dance. Can you tell Granddad Bateman what that is? The WAP dance, it's...
Well, bleep it. It's Wet Ass Pussy.
Okay. And it was a huge hit.
It was a colossal hit. So I got in my Speedo and I just had my friend spray me with a garden hose, and I did my dance.

So funny. And it got a gajillion likes and views.

And then I was off to the races, and I was like, okay, next I'm going to suit up as a Spider-Man.

Because Spider-Man was about to come out.

One of those Spider-Mans was coming out or something.

There was some reason.

And I suited up, and I did some more dancing.

And then I just couldn't stop. It was like a runaway freight train it was so good nobody wanted you to stop it was hysterical no one is a better performer than you jack no i mean what about you closing out the end of high fidelity what was that song you sang on the on the stage that was uh um i've been really trying oh god let's get on.
I just don't think there's a better performance of any song by any performer in any medium than that. Well, that was my big break, that movie.
Was it? That was... Well, you had done...
Yeah, so I was going to get into that. So that was your...
That was the thing that you had done a bunch of stuff. First of all, I want to kind of get into this a little bit.
So backing up, you had started,

did you and Cage meet doing the Actors Gang?

Is that how you guys?

Yep.

What was the genesis of the Actors Gang?

Walk us through that a little bit.

Well, the Actors Gang is like a punk rock theater group

from Los Angeles in the 80s.

They started Tim Robbins, John Cusack, that whole crew.

And if you were a young actor in the 80s in L.A.,

Thank you. They started Tim Robbins, John Cusack, that whole crew.
And if you were a young actor in the 80s in L.A., that was the sweet spot. You wanted to be in the actors gang.
Well, that was my feeling anyway. I don't know.
Jason, were you even aware of them or care about that world? I stayed away from gangs a lot. It wasn't a real gang.
I mean, there was no violence. You guys sound pretty hard.
Actors gang sounds like the softest gang. No, I was busy.
We'll improv you to death. I was reading for Golden Grahams commercials and Honey Nut Cheerios and whatnot.
Yeah. Well, I was doing that too.
I would have loved to have gotten some gang tats on me from the actors there.

Well, they were doing a lot of, like, political theater,

and they had a cool style that they used.

Stanislavski?

No, it was Commedia dell'arte, more like.

Sure.

No.

You know, they'd get all made up in the white face and a lot of presentational looking out into the audience. And anyways, I went to see them when I was like 16 years old.
I was in high school and I went to see their production of Freaks. Who was in there? Kyle Gass was one of the actors.
Ned Bellamy, Lee Ehrenberg, all of the great actors, gangers. And I was just sort of like a psycho fan of the gang.
I wanted in. It was like they were the Chili Peppers.
I just wanted to be in their world. I wanted to be in a production.
So I would go to see the shows, and then I would hang out. and I had a connection, a friend of mine, Bob White, who was a teacher at my school, Crossroads High School.
Yeah. The professor.
He was a technical theater and also a writer for a lot of the shows. Wait, wait, wait, Jack, Jack, it should be noted the professor, Bob White, also part of the, our poker game.
We all know Bob. Yes, the professor.
A very big chip collector himself. Yeah, very big.
So he got me a part in a show called The Big Show. And then I got another part in Carnage when we went to Edinburgh Theater Festival.
Whoa. And things were cooking with gas.
And then we took to New York to the Joe Papps Public Theater. Come on.

And we got just

murdered. The reviews

were so... It didn't even matter, the

reviews. It was one review.
It was like

this guy, this

Hollywood schmoo, Tim

Robbins, comes to New York

with his Hollywood

crap and tries

to tell me that this is the real

theater. That's not word

Thank you. Robbins, comes to New York with his Hollywood crap and tries to tell me that this is the real theater.
That's not word for word at all. It was an expertly written just hatchet job.
And it was such a bad review that I just laughed. I just thought this is actually hilarious because if you're going to get a bad review, you want it to be the worst review of all time yeah you want it well written yeah hey will at the beginning when you introed jack was that really true about his parents or you made that all up i think that's true right jack my parents are much more interesting than me it is no no but i mean like all that what were they my.
That's crazy. Both of them? Yeah.
And my mom was a real trailblazer, one of the first women to be successful in that field and climb the ladder and kick a lot of ass. I don't really understand what they did because I did not inherit their mathematical genius.
That's amazing though. That's wild.
But yeah, my mom worked on Apollo missions. That's crazy.
Specifically Apollo 13. She was responsible for the abort guidance system that actually saved some astronauts' lives.
Well, that's insane. Yeah, they were going to die, except they were like, what's this button? Judith Cohen abort guidance system button.
I don't know what happened. Something happened, and she was part of the reason why they survived.
And they came and visited her at the office after the whole mission a few months later to say, just wanted to thank you, Mrs. Cohen, for saving our lives.
That's crazy. Did you have any desire at all to get into some sort of a science world there? No.
I love science fiction. I do too.
I love it. I live for it.
2001 Space Odyssey. Love it.
Great book. Arthur C.
Clarke. I do have a fascination for astronomy and for, you know, that world, but I don't, I understand that I don't have what it takes to actually succeed in that field.
Don't you say that? Don't you say that about yourself? Well, no. For instance, I've tried to read that book, A Brief History of Time.
Yes. It's not so brief.
Couldn't make it past the first ten pages. Yeah, it should be more brief.
I don't understand it. Yeah.
And then I was like, wait, you know what? They made a movie out of that book, A Brief History of Time. I'll just watch that.
Yeah. I couldn't understand the movie.
Yeah. Wait, what, Jack? Did you see Ex Machina? Ex Machina.
Great movie. Isn't that one of the best movies ever? Jack, have you ever done a science fiction? It's like Stanley Kubrick came back out of the grave and directed that kind of.
Yeah. Do you know what I mean? That's a great movie.
It had a lot of Kubrick-y songs on it. I would say Jumanji.
Jumanji is science fiction. That is science fiction.
The TV, you know. Listen, you know, things happen.
How else would you explain it, Will? I don't know. No, but like a pure science fiction the tv uh you know listen you know things happen how else would you explain it will i don't know but no but like a pure science fiction jack have you ever done like like something like a i don't know there's maybe more to would you want to do like an aliensy type thing or something like that would that get you yeah dude you know i love aliens aliens is a good example of something I feel like I could jump in because it was great science fiction.

But then Bill Paxton came in and just crushed that comedic role.

Yeah.

We're toast, man.

Hey, man.

Yeah.

That's right.

Another great science fiction comedy he was in.

Weird Science. Weird Science.

And then he got turned into

Jabba the Hutt. Big piece of shit.

That's where Jabba the Hutt started, you know. That's a prequel.

Jabba the Hutt. Did you know that? No.

Yeah, that's where Jabba the Hutt starts. Weird Science,

that's where it was. He gets turned into Jabba

and then, you know, thousands

of years later, Jabba is up

on that planet. That's from, that's

Star Wars canon. Huh.

Yeah. But that is the thing.
You want

to find that thing where it's science fiction

but it's funny. And sometimes

I don't know. on that planet.
That's from, that's Star Wars canon. Huh.
Yeah. But that is the thing.
You want to find that thing where it's science fiction but it's funny and sometimes it works. It's kind of rare though but one that comes to mind, what was that rad one where they were all actors but then they...
Galaxy Quest. Galaxy Quest.
Oh, Galaxy Quest. Amazing.
Speaking of actors getting into trouble, Tropic Thunder is just, is and will always be one of my favorite movies of all time. It is not something one could do today, I would imagine.
I'm going to say thank you. Yeah, you should.
Even though I can't really take credit for it, but I was in it, and I did love being in it. You were a lot in it, and a big, big, big part of how great that movie was.
But, Jack, everybody knows you have this incredible voice.

You know, you really do have an unbelievable singing voice.

What about a musical movie?

Has anybody approached you about doing a movie musical?

Like, you would have been great into the woods.

I've got it.

Redo Flash Gordon.

Yeah.

Right?

Remember Flash Gordon with the Queen soundtrack of rock opera?

Yeah.

Come on, bro. Oh, man.
Yeah, I love that. Love Queen.
Love Flash Gordon. Fold it all together.
Love to see you. It's got the spandex outfits you like to wear on the gram.
Yeah. The Insta.
What's it called? I would like to be that character that was like, Kiyai! He was like, Oh, yeah. The dude, the crazy dude looked like he was from Road Warrior.
I saw that in the theater. Did you guys see that in the theater? I did.
Yeah, we're that old. What was that guy's name? The blonde guy that was Flash Gordon.
Oh, yeah. What was that guy? Wait, Jack, tell me about, I remember reading about you completely tearing your ankle apart on the last Conan show.
You were supposed to do the last Conan. Yes.
What was the bit that made it happen? And what was the story? All I know is that you hurt your ankle. Okay so that was a weird one because I was called up to do the final episode of the Conan Farewell show which is an honor.
You know we love us some Conan. You can't say no to something like that because you gotta love Conan and all the years he's been awesome.
I was like yes. But then I immediately nervous what am i gonna do it's gotta be something special it's gotta be super funny and they came up with a really funny idea i thought where i come out i'm singing a song to conan i'm getting really into it i'm getting physical i'm taking off my clothes and then um i injure myself i like my achilles and I go down and then paramedics come and they take me out.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Oh, God. This is all the bed.
And they take me out to the ambulance and then I say, no, stop the ambulance. And I burst out of the back doors and I come running back.
I can't let you down, Conan. And I come back in.
I burst in and the the crowd roars, and I finish the song. And it was going to be great.
But then when we were doing a pre-tape, because you can't do all of that live. You have to have the carrying me out to the ambulance and the running back into the theater done the day before.
Right. The rest of it would be live, though.
That's. So on the, the, uh, the running out of the ambulance back into Largo theater, um, I stepped, I was running with some like funny shoes and, um, you blew a tire in my speedo.
So it was already really humiliating. No, I stepped on like an uneven piece of sidewalk and they even had to tape there to let idiots know, be careful because it's uneven here.
And I rolled the ankle and I heard a pop and I was like, and I went down for real. And it was so surreal because it was so much like what the bit we were going to do.
Yeah, it's very meta. I injured myself doing the bit.
And they thought you were still doing the bit? No.

They knew that's not where he's supposed to.

Conan came running out and everyone was like,

oh, God. And he tripped and the crew tripped.
Yeah, and then the people,

Conan was like, there's the

ambulance. Come on, guys, come help.
And they're like, we're not

paramedics.

We're actors. We were hired.

We move on background.

Is this a cut? Are we cutting? Are we in grace right now?

We just went in. We're in lunch.

There was a lot of confusion. Someone made a quick

Thank you. We're actors.
We were hired. We move on background.
Is this a cut? Are we cutting? Are we in grace right now? We're in lunch. There was a lot of confusion.
Someone made a quick run to get me some ice. Got the MRI and it was definitely wrecked.
And they were like, yeah, you're going to have to take a few months off. And I was like, how long did it take to heal? I mean, to be honest with you, it's still not a hondo percent.
Right. I don't know if it'll ever be like— Obviously, still in litigation, Sean.
Yeah, what is the number you're seeking from Conan production? It still hurts. I get it.
It's part of one of the risks of the game, you know? Yeah. I don't want to go sue him.
I don't think I— I bury him in lawyers. I would bury Conan in lawyers.
Was the appearance still kind of somewhat salvaged? Yes. So I say to the doctor later that day, but can I go and just sing? He's like, yeah, you can't dance.
You can't, you know, do any of the physical stuff you're going to do. But you can sing.
Just wear the boot. So I wore the boot and I showed up and it was very heroic.
Actually ended up being, I think, better than what it was going to be. Did they show the part of you rolling the ankle as part of the bit? No.
Oh, they showed them. No.
But we talked about it. Now, talk to me about those kids.
Now, those kids are at 14 and 15, speaking from my own experience, as early as this morning this morning, I was talking to my 15 year old about next year, we got to start looking at colleges. Are you prepared? Are you and the baby mama prepared for the empty nesting? That's going to start.
I'm not, I'm not going to do well with that. I know it.
Um, have you already started, um, separating from your children, uh, just to preserve your own-being? I've already started atrophying all of my love and affection for my children because I just – I'm trying to protect myself. That's how you do it, right? You atrophy the love? Yeah.
That's how he thinks. He did that at birth, right? When you were in the labor.
I picked up the kid. I cut the cord.
When Amanda was in labor, he was like, these kids are going to leave me. Everything else in my life, it's going to leave me.
I've got to start pulling away now. I think we are trying to do the opposite.
We're jonesing for the time like three years ago when they loved us way more. But once they hit those teen years, that separation, they're taking care of that.
They're taking care of the atrophy. They're like, ugh, you guys are so embarrassing.
Just stay away from us. I don't want to talk to you.
Right. It's part of their growing up is to emancipate themselves from their parents.
Yeah. You know? They're doing well.
I'm glad they like going to school because I was the worst, and I thought if they take after me, they're going to sleep through school. Did you do any additional voluntary school, college? I did some Hebrew school, but it wasn't really voluntary.
My parents forced me to do it until I got my bar mitzvah at 13. I was like, I'm done.
And they're like, no, but you can continue to study. No.
Yeah. So there was no college for you.
I went to UCLA. Wow.
And I was a theater major, and I was there for like a year and a half, but really just because my dad wanted me to get a degree. Not because I wanted to.
And I dropped out and I ran away with the actors gang. Dude, UCLA is not an invite they just throw out.
No, it's tough. You probably had some good numbers getting in there, huh? It was very competitive, but yeah, I had some, I had some, yeah, no, I got some decent numbers, and it wasn't as competitive as it is now.
Right. You know, in 89, you could, you could, 88, 89, you could get in there with, you didn't need straight A's.
Right. And maybe I pulled a couple strings.
Maybe I got a little help. How excited was David Katz that he was proved right? This is the talent scout, David Katz, aka your stepdad.
Yeah. How stoked was he when it really started to pan out? Was he just like...
Look how good young Jack is doing. Yes.
Also, what was your your relationship like what an awesome thing that he encouraged you yes recognize that that was something that was a positive yes and he encouraged you and then you really made it your life and how did that affect your relationship with him all that stuff yeah very proud and definitely has been a great uh a touchstone and person to talk to all throughout my career just to share with him like, well, now this is happening. Oh, I got an audition for this.
You know, I'll ask him his advice and he gets a kick out of it. And he also writes, you know, he wants to get that going too.
And I feel like, God, he got me going. I got to get him going.
Tell him to write a sci-fi thing. You know what's funny you say that? Because my dad in the last couple of years, during the pandemic, my dad wrote a book.
A great book. What's the name of it, Willie? It's called Bean Fate.
And it just came out in Canada. Bean, like a bean, like a jelly bean Fate.
It's a play on a word of BFA and whatever, a bunch of things, but it's French.

But it's not a French book.

But he wrote it. It's based on a true story and about these sort of guys, you know, in the liquor business

during prohibition and stuff.

And it's sort of like a based on true events.

My dad wrote a book over the pandemic.

It was called, I'm Outta Here! For real? No. Go ahead, Will.
Will, sorry, go ahead. It's okay.
Will can cut that out. Thanks, Sean.
I'm going to talk to you. You have an extra time after the session.
Yeah, but I'm really proud of my dad. He wrote this book, and in the same way, I'm really psyched that he did that at this age.
You know, he's getting on. That is amazing.
He actually did it, and he found a publisher, and he just got published, and it's pretty cool. And I think that I'm sure in the same way you feel that about David, like that wanting to encourage him to, I think it's pretty rad.
Yeah. Well, he's super creative and funny, too.
I think he's a real character. You can tell by my impersonation of him earlier that he's got some magic sauce.

And I actually tried to get him going.

He had an idea because he loves to Uber.

And all through pandemic times, he was Ubering everywhere.

And I got him an Uber account.

So I'm like, go crazy.

Do it.

XL Uber.

What a son.

And he says, I had the most incredible conversation with this painter.

And I was like, this is great.

And he's like, I have an idea for an Uber.

I should do an Uber commercial.

And I was like, I'm on it.

And so we went and we directed.

We got cameras.

We got some Uber drivers that he became friends with.

And we put cameras in the Ubers and had him going all around town. No way.
In Ubers and, like, just talking with people and having conversations. And I swear it was the funniest little thing.
It was called, come Uber with me. And you would get in the Uber with David Katz.
Did Uber see this? It was one of the funniest. Well, of course.
That was the whole point. We were going to make this and we sent it to Uber.
And they were like, ah, hard pass. We're not going to do this.
And also you're not allowed to show this to anyone. Oh, wow.
No way. Wow.
It was kind of lame. But I felt like they were being so short-sighted because they needed at the time like a little humanistic, humanizing.
But for whatever reason, you know, David, when he talks with people, he doesn't really have a filter. And he'll say some inappropriate things.
But that's where the funny comedy happens. He says stuff, you know, that maybe culturally he'll cross boundaries.
You're not supposed to talk about things with people. But I think that he's a superstar.
What was that show, Taxi Cab Confessions? Yes. Wasn't that on HBO, I think, way back when, right? Yeah, wasn't that great? Yeah.
Yeah, why don't they still do that? A friend of mine was on it, and he was wasted. And it was him and two other gay guys in the backseat.
And they were cleaning out. They're like out like girl like they were so over the top making fun of every single person in the world and then they were plowed so drunk and they got out and they go we're hbo's tax account confessions would you sign this release form and my friend even though he was plowed drunk had the wherewithal to be like and no i'm not signing that i'm not signing well i was gonna ask that question like how did, do they tell you before you get in or do they tell you after? They must tell you after.
Yeah. There must be so many great episodes where the drunk person didn't sign the thing.
Only incredible episodes would be those, right? Where he's like, oh, no, no, no, no. No one's ever going to see that.
Dude, didn't Todd Phillips drive a cab on Taxi Cab Confessions?essions that sounds familiar that was one of his early gigs no yeah yeah yeah that sounds familiar you know who else uh danny sullivan used to be a new york taxi cab driver and these people are for tracy they they are todd phillips and danny sullivan are director right well danny sullivan was an indycar driver but uh todd phillips director. Yes, he is a director.
Good director. Great director.
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Jack, what's coming up for you that you're excited about? Like any projects that you're working on that are... Well, Jack's got this new...
I want to say, because he's not going to do his own plug ski, so I'm going to do it. Jack's got this Kung Fu Panda series that's coming.
No way. No way.
Where? Really? It's going to be on Netflix. Yeah.
Oh, great. Thank you for bringing that up.
You're right. I'm not a real plugger.
I know. I've got other people's handkerchiefs, but it's back to the Panda.
I feel, man. And it's funny because it came up in pandemic times.
Panda. Panda.
There must be a way to connect those, but... Yeah, voice work works great during the pandemic.'s how this thing got started oh dude yeah no kidding because I was going so crazy as it's been established and Netflix was like hey we're taking over your old gig the Kung Fu Panda and we know that you never do the TV show they got a sound alike to do that but would you want to do it now that we're doing it? And I was like, yes.
I want it. Just because I just wanted some like, I wanted some rad pandemic times like gigs to keep my sanity.
Yeah, of course. Do you do it there in the room you're doing this? Exactly.
This is where I do everything, by the way. It's a real boring, nondescript background, but this is John Spiker's studio.
He's also a Tenacious Deep bass player and does all of our production on our last few albums. No way.
And so it sounds so good here. I was like, I just want to do all my interviews here, too.
It's the best, right? Are you one of those actors, like, do you panic if you're not working and then you start maybe writing something and looking for something?

Or are you like, good, you know what, I'll wait for it to come.

He already answered you, dude. I wouldn't even let you finish.

Yes, the panic is real.

I think that's an inherent part of being an actor or an entertainer.

Like, what is the next gig?

And the whole time I'm working on a gig, I'm thinking, God, when is it over?

I just want my Google Calendar to be empty. But then once you get there and the Google Calendar is empty, it's terrifying because it's like, wait, I think it might be over.
It never goes away. Dude, I do the exact same thing where I'm like, can I just have like five days where there's nothing to fucking do, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then you wake up on that first day of the five and you're like where's all this stuff I was wait Jack I want to ask you because we were talking about HBO before how did Tenacious D the show how did that start obviously you and Kate knew each other but what was the genesis of that I love. Thank you.
I just want that as a sound bite.

I want people to take that, me saying I love the D.

I love the D.

And the D stands for?

The D stands for defense.

But now it definitely sounds like it stands for dick.

Yeah.

Love the D.

Tenacious defense, yes.

No one was saying the D back when we first started Tenacious D.

That wasn't a thing until the late 2000s.

Yeah.

But anyway, it started, I was in the actors gang,

and me and Kyle were both sort of musical people in that world.

And we sort of started our own splinter group.

I just went over to his house all the time.

We smoked a bunch of weed and jammed, and we're just sort of best friends.

And then we wanted to write the best song in the world.

I don't know. the time we smoked a bunch of weed and and jammed and we're just sort of best friends and then we we were we wanted to write the best song in the world and call it the best song in the world that was so dumb and so funny and and we worked on it for a while and it wasn't quite gelling the concept was wrong and then we're like oh wait and it clicked we forgot the best song in the world we did write it but we weren't recording because we're stoners.
And we're so mad, but you know, let's just write, so the song is a lament. We forgot.
It's called a tribute. It's called tribute to the greatest song in the world because we forgot it.
And that to this day is still our flagship song. It was like back when we only had one song and it was tribute, we've been chasing the dragon ever since.
Isn't that what the concept of the film was too? Or am I kind of... Yes, right? The pick of Destiny was definitely greatest song in the world centric, but that was actually more about Satan's tooth that was turned into a guitar pick.
That is my pride and joy of that film because that's the only movie I've ever written. And even though it was a huge box office bomb, I couldn't have been more proud of it.
And I did feel like it was the best movie ever made. Is writing the hardest thing you've ever done? It was the most satisfying and most fun.
And that was the biggest tragedy is that the movie wasn't a huge hit because if it was a huge hit,

I would have gone straight into the next thing that I would have written.

Right.

Yeah, but, I mean, talk to our buddy Justin Theroux.

You know, he writes Tropic Thunder.

And he's not like dying to write, you know, script after script after script, you know?

He could be.

It doesn't automatically just kind of make you Paddy Chayefsky.

That's true.

But, you know, we did that and...

Take your time, man.

Yeah, now I'm lost.

Watch this, guys, watch this.

I can't even remember where we started.

Where did Tenacious D come from? When you were very young. Well, that was it.
That was the first time. No, the first time I met you.
It was Tribute. Oh, but anyway, we had our one song, Tribute, that we wrote.
Yeah. And we went and played our one song.
A friend of ours said, hey, will you come open for me in downtown L.A. at a little club called Al's Bar? And we're like, yeah.
It was a buddy of mine, Steve Morimarko, gave us our big break at some, like, rat-infested bar. And there was 12 people in the audience, but they were kind of cool drunk hipsters, and we rocked tribute, and we rocked so hard.
Like, we put all of our guts into it. And one of the drunk hipsters, the Lord, was looking down upon us.
David Cross just happened to be there. Oh, wow.
That's what I thought. And he was like, you guys are really funny, man.
I'm David Cross. Did he hold for applause after he said that? No.
Because I've seen him do that. I'm David Cross and did he hold for applause after he said that? no I don't even think he said that I'm David Cross he just is like I have a comedy thing that I just started with my friend Bob Odenkirk we do a Mr.
Show will you guys come down and open for us play Play that song. And we're like, yes!

And we didn't have any idea who he was,

and we didn't know about the Ben Stiller show or any of that stuff where he came from.

We were just like, we got another gig!

Didn't matter what it was.

Gas up the van.

And so that is really what led to the beginning of Tenacious D

because Bob and David gave us a sweet slot.

And when they went to HBO to do Mr. Show,

they brought us along and made us the little appetizer for their show.

That's great.

And that changed everything.

And really, that's how I got High Fidelity.

Then that's where School of Rock came from.

Oh, wow.

So it's a big, there was a big turning point in my career.

Have you sent David a muffin basket or? Never even sent him. Yeah, nothing.
He got nothing in return. But now I'm giving him a loving shout out.
That's a pretty good. Yeah.
Up there with Hermosa Beach and. And the hankies.
Yeah. But this is like, this is like, but it goes to show how fucking small all that, how connected.
Yeah, everybody. David sees you.
He's drunk at a bar. David being drunk at a bar is not that odd.
But David's at a bar. He sees you, brings you with Bob to do the thing.
And then you end up, and he had worked on the Ben Stiller show. And then years later, you and Ben worked together a bunch.
The first thing I met you on was when you did envy with amy and ben back in 2001 i think or two or some shit like that like and all those dots just connect everything is so it's so small and connected it's wild yeah like if anybody ever asked me like you know my sister will ask like i have this my my daughter has a friend, what advice would you give them? Advice for all these young people trying to break into the business or actors. Go and play the bar downtown.
Oh, Al's. Play Al's.
Al's as much as you can. No, just get out there and just do it.
You got to just constantly be out there, right? You were so young. How old were you when that happened 23 24 our first show but no al's bar was later i was 27 when we played something like that 26 27 i don't know it's it's tragic how it's how arbitrary it is you know for any of us i mean you can think back to the start of uh you know and it's if we were in the wrong place at that right time uh it would have taken longer or maybe not at all and you think about all the talented friends that we have that just don't they have not found that moment of access you know are people championing you like whether it's david seeing you or david cats you know seeing you seeing that and recognizing that your kid who's got talent like as i said the chris pratt episode, he was a waiter at the Bubba Gump Shrimp thing in Maui.
Some casting director or whatever director. Casting director saw him there, and he was like, popcorn shrimp, barbecue shrimp, broiled shrimp, baked shrimp, shrimp gumbo, shrimp of the thing.
That's an old-fashioned Hollywood discovery story. You don't hear those very often.
No. The ones that take place at Bubba Shrimp.
The casting director just walking into Bubba Gump's shrimp. Right.
Isn't that the craziest? It's so, so insane. And the likelihood of them having mashed shrimp or short casserole.
There goes Sean again. He loves a good food joke.
Oh, God. He's got the slide right next to the mic today.
See this carrot top. Oh, he's got it right next to him today.
What else is in the chest, Sean? You guys should do, you guys should do, Sean, I was just thinking that you and Jack should do, because you both are such musical dudes. Anything.
We'll do anything. I'd love to see you guys jam out on a musical comedy.
Let's do it. That would be fun.
That would be cool. Let's do a little, we'll do a little, call your Instagram friend up and we'll do like a 10 second or 15 second little musical.
Sean just finished this play, Jack. He's going to Broadway soon and he's playing Oscar Levant and he, to rave reviews, by the way.
Thank you. That's very nice.
And it's a play, but he also plays a piano on stage. He's a classically trained pianist.
Yeah. Whoa.
True story. Yeah.
Knows how to do it all. What's it called? Oscar Levant? It's called Goodnight Oscar and it's going to the Broadway.
Who wrote that? Doug Wright. He's an amazing Pulitzer Prize winning writer.
He actually wrote a movie that's being shot right now with Jamie Foxx and Tommy Lee Jones. Whoa.
I just went and saw a play on Broadway. I saw Hugh Jackman in The Music Man.
How was it? I want to see that. He was great, and it was great, and I was really jealous because I always thought that would be my play on Broadway.
Okay, so but why wouldn't you do it? You have the voice. You have the stamina.
Can you imagine if you were going to see Hugh Jackman in The Music Man, they had a special announcement. Hugh has come down with COVID.
Tonight's performance will be by almost as good Jack Black. Oh, we got trouble, my friend.
We got trouble. Right here in River City.
I'm an enormous Hugh Jackman fan, but let me tell you something. Oh, who isn't? I would love to see you play the music man.
Yeah. I'm not going to say I'd be better than him, but I would bring some different things.
What about Joseph? With the Technicolor Dreamcoat.

Yeah, or Jesus Christ Superstar for that.

Why not Jesus Christ? Yes, Judas.

That's the original rock opera.

Yeah. A lot of people say, oh, it was

Tommy by The Who, but really

Jesus Christ Superstar

I think was first, and it was a hard rocker.

JC, dude, go a ridge.

Wait, Jack, I would be

in the pit playing

in the little orchestra, tiny orchestra pit

I'm going to go to the last song, which was Jesus Christ, superstar, right? And I would be playing the piano and they'd be like, the director was like, you know, you can just riff, like just riff on the piano, like bang, go nuts, like rock. And I was like, okay.
But I only knew how to riff in classical because I was classical boy. So it was so rinky-dink, like, Jesus Christ, bugga-dicka superstar, bugga-dicka hoodoo.
Oh, I bet it was great. It was so embarrassingly bad.
I know what he's talking about, too, the riff, because on the Broadway album, the original Broadway album, whoever was playing piano was going off on that yeah it was cool i remember coming over jack i came over to the house a couple years ago with the boys and you were doing uh you're doing your ice bath and you're doing the arctic plunge yes right and then we went downstairs and you and the boys rocked out in your basement and jack's got headphones in there so you don't he doesn't blow everybody's ears yeah the drums get loud down there do they play instruments your kids yeah um uh sammy uh my 15 year old has sort of lost interest in it but now the 13 year old tommy actually just turned 14 he's drumming like obsessively oh i like the drum like almost too much to where I'm I get concerned but I'm also just like good get obsessed yeah do play too much so you got him on the do you have him on the electric drums dude you have him on the electric drums with the headphones I spoil him he's got an electric drum set in his room he's got the real drum set in the basement right Because you really can't have a real drum set if you don't have a basement. You have to have an underground soundproof shelter.
Getting back to the ice plunge, though, Willie, that's something that you do. And it's something that I've never understood because I feel like there's got to be damage going on when you drop your bits and pieces into ice.
Jack does it. He keeps the hot tub hot, and then he keeps the pool icy cold.
Right, Jack? Just never heat the pool. It'll get cold enough.
I don't want to go in anything cold. I know, Jack.
I do the ice. I have a ice.
I have a, not ice. I have a, like a cold plunge pool.
So it gets even colder than not heating the pool in the winter. I get it to like 39 degrees.
Like one degree above freezing. Basically.
And then I got the sauna. So I heat up and then...
I just feel like there's got to be damage going on. The body can't like that kind of shock.
No, no, no. Kevin Hart does that cold-ass balls show.
What's that? Where he's in the cold... It's an interview show where he only interviews people while they're soaking in an ice tub.
Is that right? I should do that. I've heard that ice plunge actually is great for anxiety.
Yeah. Really? You know what? Here's the other thing.
Most, like, anxiety, mental health, a lot of stuff, but also a lot of physical ailments, including, and I'm not saying it's a cure for cancer or anything, but all that stuff, it has to do with inflammation, and that cold water reduces inflammation, man. It's's so good for you but don't you think it would be healthier and more safe if you did it slowly like if you just started with room temperature water and you slowly at like like a frog in a boiling pot of water that that whatever that that saying is but like i just think the shock of going in there isn't there a risk of of a heart attack stress? No.
I hear you. No.
Like a true American, I'm going to wait for the pill to reduce my inflammation. Yes.
You know what it is? It's called Advil. They got it.
Yeah. They got it.
It's amazing. Jack, we've taken up way too much of your time, man.
Is that it? I love it. It's been so great having you.
Love you guys. Thank you, dude.
Love you, man. You're the best.
Hey, you know, when I first heard you guys, I was like, oh, shit. I should try and get on that show.
But then I realized I don't like to do shows because I get too nervous for shows. I only really ever do shows if I have to promote something.
I understand. But this was always on my bucket list.
I was like, I got to do that shit. Oh, and you were on ours.
It should be known.

There was a lot of schedule stuff over the last year and a half.

We tried to get you a few times because we wanted you.

I wanted you big time bad.

So you can ask your peeps.

I fought it, but man, was I wrong?

I mean, look, this was great.

Ask our mutual peep.

And then there was a lot of sketch. And I had to look you up right when you came on.
Jack, we love you. Yeah, Jack, you're the best, man.
The feeling is mute. Yeah.
Quick plug on the way out the door. No, just kidding.
Quick plug. If you have anybody else you'd like to throw a plug.
Jack, love you. Thank you, Jack.
Love you. Thanks, buddy.
Bye, pal. Say hi to Kyle, please.
I will say hi to Kyle. He's going to be jealous that I partied with you guys without him.
I know. Let's do one for old time's sake poker game.
I would love that. Let's do it.
Let's do that. All right, cool.
All right, Pally. Ciao, ciao.
Bye, Jack. Bye, bud.
Ciao, ciao, ciao, ciao. He was on my list, Jack.

He was on my list,

and then we did, for real,

have some sketch issues

in the great Louis K.,

who we all love and adore.

Great shout-out.

But also had a tough time

pulling that together

because of sketch,

and I don't want to throw

Louis under the bus again.

Oh, you have the same publicist?

Yeah.

Oh.

But he's also, you know, a friend. Right, but if he was a better publicist, probably would have put him on the show earlier.
Probably, right. Listen, Louis K is, you know, he does the best he can.
He's still working on getting a full last name, but he's busy. How great is Jack? That Jack Black, I'd like more Jack Black in my life.
He's such a mega talent, isn't he? Yeah, he is. You know, he's one of those people, too, like he can make you laugh with just one word.
Yeah, yeah. Because of the way he uses his face or whatever.
Or just like a look. I just start grinning as soon as I see him because he's so comfy in his skin, and he's just a smooth dude.
He's like Feral. He falls into that category with me with Feral.
You know, any time Will walks in the room, and you're like, oh, my God. And I my god and i feel the same way about jack yeah same he's fantastic he's been in so many hit movies and there were a lot more movies that he would be in back what was it 10 years ago when comedies they used to make a lot more comedies i just don't get why they don't do.
They don't make sitcoms anymore and they don't make comedies studios anymore. They don't make movies anymore.
They don't really make movies anymore. Well, let me tell you something.
You know what's doing really well is sci-fi and Jack says he wants to do sci-fi. Yeah, I would love to see Jack do a sci-fi.
Jack starring in like a big sci-fi. Yeah, for sure.
What would you call a sci-fi comedy? Let's try to work a buy into this title of this sci-fi comedy. Oh, wow.
You're just saying it out loud. Yeah.
You're just saying it and just identifying it. Like a sci-fi.
I think the audience is smart enough. They know we're not going to sneak up.
Did I mention Jackson? He's got Kung Fu Panda on Netflix. I just wanted to say that for his benefit because he never would say it.
But you know what, Jason, back to your point. You know what rhymes with sci-fi? Shaw's got it.
Well, yeah, no, he does know.

He just said it out loud.

Yeah.

Are you just going to say bi-fi?

No, it's going to say sci-bi.

No, no, no, no, no.

We have to call up with the title.

What is the title of a science fiction comedy?

Okay.

Holy shit.

No, no, hang on.

I need, before we get to that, I just need to get to.

Sean, you were just going to replace it with bi?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You were just going to bi-alians?

Bi-alians. Bi-alians!

No, it doesn't work.

Bailians. Do better.
Bi-alians.

No, how about

star buyers?

No? What?

Holy fuck.

What about Star Trek

bi?

Oh my god. What the fuck is happening? I'm mocking Sean here.
Oh, okay. Are you? I like Psy-Buy.
Psy-Buy? Psy-Buy doesn't even make sense. What about you, Will? Yeah, because it's at the end.
Let's have, what's a classic, 2001 space biology? No? No. How about Bicentennial Man? Oh, yes! Right on with Robin Williams.
Okay. There it is.
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