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Well, hello, listener. Listen, I've been drawing an animated version of myself because I want to do a cartoon.
Anyway, so here, this little Jakey Bates is over here. Hi, it's really great to see you, Jason.
Wait, little Jakey, are you drinking? It's pretty early. No, no, this is water.

Here, take a little sniffy.

Well, that's definitely not water.

But anyway, sit down or lay down rather for you.

Probably lay down would be better. And here comes a fresh new episode.

Yeah.

Smart.

Smart.

Lias.

Smart.

Lias. smart what's going on is that is that is that a uh a movie cigarette what do you mean yeah it is i can tell by the way the cherry is burning right it looks so fake well, no, but that's a clove or like the herbal ones that they give us on sets, right?

It's metal.

Yeah.

Oh, really?

It's metal, man.

What is that?

So then it's a vape or something?

Yeah.

Wait, but what are you doing? Because in Chicago, I guess you can't smoke on stage with real cigarettes.

Oh, because your character smokes in the play.

Like this. Does this look natural? What are you blowing out of your mouth? Is that water vapor? Confidence.
Oh, God. Somebody's found a new...
I like your attitude. I like your attitude with the smoke now.
You've got... You see, now you've got more attitude, Sean.
Okay, so let me ask you, Will. It's because we had it in Tuscott and I were arguing last night.
I don't, somebody told me to hold it here, but you hold it up here. Am I closer to the top of your, right? It just depends.
I mean, thanks for coming to the expert. This is one of those, like, talk to the expert sections.
Yeah, you just gotta, you gotta find that kind of, like, loose, you know what I mean? Yeah, like, right in the middle, maybe. But you don't need to do Will's face right right now or you've got a little bit of smoke in the eye.
I just learned from all those old Marlboro billboards. Things are complicated.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, man, how am I going to get those steed down there? Yeah, where's the real horses? You know what I mean? Once I wrangle up this cattle, I'll make my way back to the ranch. But in the meantime.
Well, good morning. Hi, good morning to everybody.
Did everybody sleep okay? Yeah, but it's 11.30 where you are, right, Sean, or 10.30? Yeah, but I got up at 2.30 and went back to bed at 7. That's something we learned about you on the tour.
Yeah. You have a halftime show during your sleep.
Do you know that like a century ago or longer, people used to do that all the time. They'd sleep, they'd go to bed early, and then they'd wake up in the middle of the night and they would kind of cruise around and talk to people and socialize in the middle of the night.
You can read about it. I read some book about it.
Wait a second. Tell me about that.
I'm 53 years old, and this is the first time you're telling me that a century ago it was common practice to get up in the middle of the night. Everybody across the world, is that your position? I don't know if everybody across the world, but I remember reading this book about Brooklyn and people would get up and it was not uncommon for people to get up at sort of midnight and then walk around and socialize for a couple of hours.
And our idea of sleep- In Brooklyn, in just that borough. Well, that's what the book was about but but that that was something that was not uncommon at the time according to the author i felt like i read this thing a long time ago like it when if you're if you can't sleep just get up like because to fight it is worse hang on hang on let me work this out if you can you ever try to punch yourself across the face and knock yourself back out again you wake up kind of bruised up again that suggests that you knocked yourself out in the first place to go to sleep.
Well, I mean, this is a book that I'd read on Staten Island and that 100 years ago, this is... I mean, obviously, you know I'm calling bullshit because you've never read a book.
So I just know that... Yeah, so I know that that's not...
Sean, what's going on with emergency services in Chicago? They seem very quiet right now because usually they're just. They've ruined everyone off the street last night.
We had a record last night, listener, that Sean was. For Tracy, they're talking about.
Dodging the sirens last night. Well, you don't have to explain what emergency services are to Tracy.
I mean, surely she understands. She was a cop.
Remember, she was a cop. Can I just say how great it was having Tracy on the tour when she came to Chicago and Madison? Wasn't it? And she was so much cooler than you led us to believe.
You know, I just want to say to Tracy. I thought you were going to say the new period.
What about the way she came to Chicago just to see what it was going to be like so she could decide whether she wanted to be on stage in Madison? I love that. And then we just got her on.
And I asked her afterwards, I'm like, how did you feel? She goes, oh, I was a nervous wreck. I go, did you like it? And she goes, I can't remember one thing about it.
I mean, by the way, she goes like, I blacked out. Did you like thousands of people cheering you wildly when you came on? Some people don't like that.
Oh, I don't know anybody who doesn't like getting cheered. Hey, Jay, are we interrupting? Is it feed time? Well, no, it's fucking breakfast time.
Oh, okay. You know, we're having, this is a real concession we're making for Sean and his fucking theater passion.
God. Oh, because we're on his theater schedule.
Oh, you guys, come on. It's 8.30 in the morning.
5, 6, 7, 8. It's not magic time.
Magic time's after 10, 10 a.m., something like that. Well, it's not like those Saturdays for the Ozark schedule.
Boy, sometimes early, sometimes late. I'm sorry about that.
I know. Now, I hope that our guest is on some sort of a central or eastern time.
I think our guest is and our guest is is also accustomed to changing schedule especially performing live because our guest is no stranger to performing live in fact they started out uh they started out making commercials etc just like a lot of people making some um memorable oh i know who it is i'm kidding great uh some great shows uh i remember a particular episode of The Littlest Hobo that I will never forget. Are you freestyling right now, Will, or have you written anything down? I am.
I'm freestyling. That's incredible.
This person then went on to perform, take his comedy chops over to the UK, where his family originated from, and performed comedy and sketch and improv over there. Moved it back to Toronto.
Moved his way right to the main stage on Second City. Then to Chicago.
Then to improv, doing Second City there. Improv Olympic.
This person doesn't sound funny at all. Then made a move to Saturday Night Live where he absolutely blasted onto the scene.
Made a bunch of incredibly memorable movies over the last 20, 30 years. Mike Myers.
Some of the best comedies of all time. Mike Myers.
He's maybe second only, he's the only person I know who loves the Toronto Maple Leafs as much as I do. It's the incredible, the hilarious, the amazing Mike Myers.
Got it. Mike Myers.
I know that's the first time I've ever gotten it. Hello, how are you? Hello.
I'm smoking my pen. Hello there.
Oh, nice. See, Mike is doing a good job.
There you go. Did you see that, Mike? Did you see this? Yes, I did.
It looks real, right? Mike, were you ever a smoker? No, never. No.
Yeah. No.
I smoked in a tree fort once. A tree fort? That's where I started.
Yeah. Truly.
With a Playboy that we found in the woods that was thick. And that's the last time I smoked.
Mike, I'm glad that you mentioned that you found some Playboys because I remember I found in Toronto at a trash can at a bus station an old penthouse magazine. I'm like, maybe this is a Canadian thing, just people throwing out their dirty mags.
I think it is. It's the great purging that happens every March.
You have to purge your porn. Wait, Mike, look at this photo.
Look at this photo. Hold on one second.
Let me see. Oh, wow.
Is that from Cat in the Hat? That's me and you. No, that's before I got well in grace.
I met you at Barney's. At Barney's in New York? No.
Yeah, in the parking lot.

Mike, were you selling jackets?

Isn't that crazy?

I was.

Reasonably priced.

High quality.

Mike, I'm so thrilled to be talking to you.

I met you only the once.

I shook your hand out in front of some screening,

and I thought I would meet you again sooner than now.

Was hoping, was wishing, but happy. Better late than never.
I'm such a big fan of yours. Really.
Well, thank you. Likewise.
Thank you. Yeah.
Huge. So, Mike, talk a little bit about, like, as a Canadian, of course, I always looked up to you as well.
Because you were like a guy from Toronto who went and did it. And did it, like, not just made great stuff, but made great thing after great thing.

It was hilarious.

And for me, it was so inspirational.

I was like, see, you can get out of Toronto.

You can do stuff, you know?

What was that feeling like when you made it in the U.S.?

We know what that being Canadian experience is.

You know, it's, you know, being Canadian is, you know, sitting at the border looking south and going, wow, it's a big party. Can I come too? Wow.
And it was unbelievable. I still can't believe it.
It's very, very gratifying. And, you know, American show business is the best show business in the world.
I know that sounds weird, but it's absolutely true. Do you live in the States now or do you live in Toronto? I live in New York.
Oh, you do? Oh, great. Yeah.
You came in with such specificity with what you do and what your funny was and seemed to make no apologies for it. You didn't kind of keep one hand behind your back and kind of play it safe at all, you know, to all of our, you know, fortune.
You know, you just really kicked the door down and were really, the characters that you played, I can't imagine anybody else ever playing them. And it took a lot of acting talent as well to be as funny as you were.
It's just remarkable, truly. It is.
I saw the recent Austin Powers commercial that's running now, and I'm like, I don't even know what the product is. I was like, oh, my God.
I was like, oh, my God, Mike's back. I think everybody, it's a historical character now.
But then even the small part you did in Tarantino's movie too, it's just, you know, it's never surprising to see you be incredible. Or Bohemian Rhapsody as well.
Like you're just. So Mike, let me ask you.
So you come out of Toronto. You go and you go to England.
We talked a little bit about Mike and his alter ego Tommy Maitland. He came and did the gong show for two years.
Another incredible character. And Mike's only rule was we could never tell anybody that it was Mike.
And people were like, who the fuck is this guy, Tommy Miller? And he was so in it. It was crazy.
It was amazing that the network allowed him to do it. And it was so...
Yes, to their credit. To their credit.
Was there ever a big announcement about it? Did you guys ever take the victory lap that you deserve by making a big announcement finally and saying, look what we did? I guess second season, Mike. Yeah, second season we had to because there's a journalistic standards of, is this fake news? So they went along with it until the whole fake news.
Aha. Well, that's cool.
Not controversy, but it came to a, like, no journalist would go along with it. You know what I mean? Right.
Which I understand, but, you know, it was fun. I had so much fun doing that.
Oh, Mike, you were so game, and he had to get all this prosthetics done every day and be in it for hours, and then have so much energy as this sort of late middle-aged guy who's trying to drum up the energy to get the audience going. And my favorite was Mike talking to people backstage that he knew, like Fred Armisen coming and talking to Mike, and Mike was full Tommy Maitland with Fred.
It was so surreal. I mean, it was a different human being.
It was crazy. Was there any Richard Dawson baked into it? There's a little Richard Dawson, that sort of mid-Atlantic, almost English accent for export.
Like, real English people don't actually talk that way. But I'm always obsessed with culture for export.
Like I think sometimes I talk like a Canadian for export. Right.
Just like it's assumed of me or something. So, Mike, do you walk around the house and work on new characters? I do.
I have three kids, so, you know. Wow.
I did this one strange character for my kid, Spike, who's 10. And he's very socially conscious, you know, which this generation is going to be fine.
You know what I mean? And I was like, I've watched you. I saw you from across the street.
And he goes, who are you? My son, going along with it. He goes, where do you live? I said, I was like I've watched you I saw you from across the street and he goes who are you my son going along with it he goes where do you live I said I live on this street they went dad he's homeless you think homelessness is funny and I was like no I don't I think it's a tragedy I I wasn't I just it's an improv and that's the first thing that came to my mind and he goes you know you know, it's a real problem here in New York.
I got lectured by my 10-year-old. And then you should have given them the lecture about yes-anding.
Yes. And it wasn't well-received.
So, Mike, so you've done all these amazing characters. By the way, I've always thought, I can't believe you should have won an Emmy for Tommy Maitland because it was so above and beyond.
Yeah, for sure. Oh, man, it was just amazing.
I loved the Gong Show as a kid. So for me, it was like, are you kidding? It was tell me when and what to wear, you know? Yeah.
It's just I loved it was pre-ambition. That's what I love about, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
It's just to make people laugh. My company is called No Money Fun Films because that is my favorite thing.

And I love comedians that like to be funny.

Like Dana Carvey.

I was on tour with him.

He's hilarious.

So hilarious.

And I did movies with him.

He's hilarious just to be funny.

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

He does running gags, which is my favorite thing too,

which is he would do this thing with the Beatles, just talking filthy. So it would be, I remember one time.
And then it was like, it was George and I, and there was these three blondes, and it was just so filthy. And so all he had to do was be on stage with him in these big crowds, and under the laugh, he'd go, I remember one time.
And I'd remember one time how do you do that he is literally the most relaxed performer yes yeah and he's a conductor when he does his stand up he's just remarkable but i love running jokes and i love that he is committed to them as well yeah mike do you do you forgive my ignorance, but do you do stand-up?

Did you start with stand-up?

Never did stand-up.

I did it once, and I was so ill from it.

Before going out, I threw up.

Oh, really?

I don't know how people do that.

Did you have a bunch of stuff written out and prepared?

Had you worked on a set?

No, I thought I could just,

I thought, I'll just go up there,

and I'll just, I'll speak.

I'll tell my truth as I see it it was like you suck get off the stage we hate you we hate your truth that sounds horrible so do you keep in touch with lorne or check in on snl or anything like that just to see what's going on yeah you do oh that's great i didn't know that oh yeah yeah i didn't know how long those know how long his students, how long he keeps in touch with his kids.

I'm very, you know, I'm very grateful to Lauren.

Gave me my break in TV and my break in movies,

and he's a Canadian hero and continues to be.

And one of the, literally, I don't,

I quote Lauren maybe 10 times a day.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Just in little things, too.

It's like, well, you know, being in a car, the audience doesn't mind it. That's where you should put all of your exposition.
You know, it's just like little things like that. When you have a special guest, you have to give them an entrance round, round of applause, you know? Build that in.
Yeah, he's got those great...

I remember when Amy started on Update,

and he said, it's going to be different

because now the audience hears your name.

Yes.

And I was like, oh, yeah.

Yeah, that makes sense.

The other one was,

just when you're in the VIP room,

there's a VIP room.

That ends up being you, Mick Jagger,

and the hot water pipes.

Oh, my God, that sounds so good.

And then I was in Cannes for Shrek, and the guy said, Monsieur, you don't want to be in this room. There's a better room.
And I went, and it was me, Mick Jagger, and the hot water pipes in Cannes. I was like, he's right.
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There's such a specific work routine and rhythm and schedule with SNL that obviously you flourished in. Um, how have you you've gotten older, even more talented, more specific with what you do and capable of even so many other things, how have you noticed your change in what you like to do as far as rhythm goes and work routine? And do you miss the rush, rush, rush of that? Or do you prefer? I do.
Yeah. I miss the rush, rush, rush.
You know, again, another Laurenism. It's not the best show that goes on at 1130.
It's the best show that's ready to go on at 1130. That's hilarious.
It offers you a tremendous freedom from choice. You know what I mean? Right.
And you have to make specific choices immediately, which I did that on Second City as well. And in the London, I think the greatest training I had in a weird way was the London cabaret circuit, which is if they loved you, they loved you.
You had to be fresh. That's the other thing too.
You had to do comedy where comedy hadn't existed before, or you would get either booed off the stage or often hummed off the stage. Or one time I was complimented off the stage, which is, you're doing a good job, Mike.
You know? I don't even know my name. What does that mean, doing comedy in a space that hasn't been done before? It's the topics of British comedy are very, very wide.
Things that are, like, there was a time when it was always mother-in-law jokes, you know what I'm saying? And that was a very narrow subject matter to do comedy. In England, they require that you, for example, there was a comedy troupe called The Entire Population of China, this double act, these two guys.
And they did they did a sitcom in Chaucerian English. So it had all the rhythm with a laugh track.
Oh, my God. So with the router, like, and this is a room above a pub in Camden, and people are like, yes, new, different.
Gotcha. And, Mike, what drew you to the enjoyment of wanting to develop characters? Like when you were younger, was it a person? Was it a thing? Were you like, oh, I can do these voices.
I didn't even know I could do voices. Well, I think growing up in Canada, you're an observer nation.
You know what I mean? Yeah, that's interesting. And Canada's not really a melting pot.
It's more of a salad bowl. You know, when you come over, it's just a different thing.
And so cultures and how people talk is something, and I think SCTV said to me that it was possible to come from Toronto and do what I do. Yeah.
Gilda Radner played my mom in a TV commercial when I was nine. Wow.
And I watched her on Saturday Night Live and I turned to my family and said, that's what I'm going to do for, I'm going to do that. I'm going to be on that show.
Yeah. And I think of all of the original cast, I think I relate more to Gilda Radner than Belushi or Aykroyd, who I worship Dan Aykroyd, but I think I was more like Gilda Radner, really.
Yeah, yeah. Peter Sellers was a huge influence.
My dad, you know, he's English, him. You know, I had two Liverpool parents, and they were like...
Wow. My dad's biggest compliment was, oh, I wish he was English, you know? You know, Mike, it's funny.
I remember talking to, you know, our mutual friend, Rob Cohen, great writer, funny funny guy. Amazing.
And he made it, he actually made this documentary, as you know, about what it means to be, why Canadians are funny or why there are seemingly so many Canadian comedic actors and comedians, et cetera. And I always said that it felt like, and this is a Canadian, obviously, reference, that it's almost like we were born up against the glass.
Yeah. right? Like it's like at the rink and you're just looking in.

We're not in the game yet.

We're just kind of there.

And we have the luxury of kind of,

we don't necessarily have any skin in the game.

We can just observe and comment on it.

Does that ring true to you?

100%.

You know, Martin Short used to say,

you know, when Americans are watching TV, they're watching TV. But when Canadians are watching TV, we're watching American TV.
Yeah. There is just a slight separation.
That's so funny. And it's a weird, like, it's a party happening upstairs that you wish you were invited to.
You know what I mean? Yeah. But you also have that kind of like those people are crazy upstairs.

Get a load of them.

Well, Mike, I don't know if you remember

I had this experience when I moved to

New York many moons ago

and I would come back to Toronto and people

would say, oh, fuck, Willie, you sound

you're American now, eh?

You're down there. You're American.

Like as if I had done something

wrong. You know, I'm like, what? It's so unfair and not true, by the way, you know, because there's nobody more Canadian than a Canadian who no longer lives in Canada.
Yeah. You get super Canadian when you live down here.
It's that guy, what's the, there's the Devil's Dictionary, that guy, Englishman who wrote it, and he had the description of a kilt was a traditional Scottish garb worn by Americans in Scotland and Scots in America. Yes, that's right.
Exactly. It's a similar, similar thing.
So you, anyway, so you moved in, you go to Chicago, but how many of those characters that you ended up, you know, iconic characters that you did on SNL, any of them, had you been working on them on Second City? Were they characters that had developed? Yeah. Most of the characters I had done at Second City and I had done on Canadian TV.
I had done Dieter on a show called It's Only Rock and Roll, and I had done Wayne. I had a thing called Wayne's Power Minute on It's Only Rock and Roll on CBC, on Canadian TV.
No way. Power Minute.
Wayne's Power Minute in the shagging wagon. That was my handle in high school was Power Minute.
Shagging wagon. Power Minute.
Yeah. I don't think it was a compliment.
I'm still trying to figure out what it was. No, it's 18 seconds of pleasure and a lifetime of responsibility.
So you do, by the way, I mean, Wayne's World, again, as a, I just, that was such a, when you first started doing that sketch on SNL, it just blew me away. Just hilarious.
We would quote it, still to this day, of course, how many iconic things came out of it, not, schwing, things that are still part of the vernacular. Do you ever hear that stuff just sort of like out of your you know in your peripheral and and just go like holy shit i came up with that character though like what about behave oh yeah i wasn't even getting to that yet exactly there's so much it's it's it's very gratifying it is uh it's unbelievable you know like, my parents, my dad sold encyclopedias and my mom worked in the office of a factory that made aerosol can products.
So it's not like I'm to the manner born and go, well, see, my, the way my dad used to handle this. Right, right.
So it's all kind of, it's just being unbelievable. I can't believe it.
Did your parents fully understand and grasp what a home run your career is and has been? Well, strangely enough, my father had gotten Alzheimer's by the time I had become successful, which is one of those ironies. The person who would have most delighted in seeing it was, you know, it's a very tough disease, Alzheimer's, because it's people's personality leave their bodies, and so you can't quite have a funeral.
And, you know, I think it was once described as the long goodbye, you know? Yeah, for sure, for sure. So your dad never got to see that.
Your mom did get to enjoy some of your success? She did and she didn't. She's like, oh, I saw Wayne's World.
Yeah, what did you think? Oh, that Dana Carvey's very good, isn't he? Oh, he's just got it. He's just slick, you know? But Americans are, aren't they? They're very slick.
And who's the other guy in the hat? Yes. I don't care for him much.
Yeah, Mike, I think that's like English, like my mom, a Canadian, but also of, you know, far back sort of English and Scottish and Irish descent and similar thing, which is, you know, anything. Smartless.
Listen, my friends really love Smartless. Oh, yeah, thanks.
What did you think? Well, they liked it. Okay.
Then you find out that she's insufferable to others, you know? Yes, yes. It's like, my son made it.
Yeah. You know what I loved, Mike? I loved Supermensch.
I loved that documentary. Oh, thank you so much.
Yeah, I loved it so much. It was a documentary for Tracy.
It was a documentary that Mike directed. Yeah, on the legendary manager Shep Gordon, Alice Cooper's manager.
Yeah, so cool. I knew nothing about him, actually.
It was so fascinating. And was that a pleasurable experience for you? Would you do it again? I would love to do it again.
It was a very pleasurable experience. Shep Gordon is one of the

nicest human beings in the world and I thought,

what do you give the man who has everything? And I thought,

I'd give him the microphone.

I just wanted to...

We talked about

Lauren. Shep Gordon is very much like

Lauren. His art form

can only be seen from space, you know what I mean?

Which is, he builds careers

in that way. It's almost like a Christo of building different people's careers.
And that's his milieu, his art form. Would you direct another documentary, or is there something you're interested in? I would.
Yeah. I've always loved documentaries.
I thought I was going to be a documentary filmmaker. I got hired for Second City and accepted to York University film on the same day.
Oh, wow. And I thought, oh, I'll do Second City for a while and then go over and study film.
And are you, is that something, are you having, do you have the time to pursue that at all right now? What fills most of your, most of your days? What's, what, what are you enjoying pursuing? Well, I have a six-part comedy series coming out in May

called The Pentavrit on Netflix.

Oh, cool.

And I've been doing that for the last two years.

Of course, we got hit with COVID right in the middle of it,

but it's done now.

It's coming out in May.

And the premise of it is,

is what if five people actually did run the world, but what if they were nice? Oh, wow. So I wanted to get to the Pentavera.
So this is a show where you play, I think, six or seven characters? Seven characters, yeah. Which is insane.
You're a masochist. That's a pretty tall order.
Yeah, you're a masochist. Well, looking back, I do see the masochistic nature of that choice i didn't at the time of course but um did you write this as well or produce it or direct it i i didn't direct it we have a great director named tim kirkby who's this british genius who directed it yeah um was able to keep all the seven characters and all the stories all together and it's i wanted to do something very cinematic.
That's the other thing too. Yeah.
So it's closer to, it's kind of if the Da Vinci Code and the prisoner had a baby. And it kind of deals with conspiracy theory.
And basically the need we have right now to have the people trust the experts and the experts serve the people. That's kind of where we're at.
And, you know, I just, the insanity of what's going on with January 6th and what's going on, you know, this is how I thought I could respond to it. So it's, you know, it's a comment on, on, uh, misinformation and disinformation.
That's great. Yeah.
Is that important? Is that important to you? I mean, obviously it is, I mean, to be able to speak up and to, you know, there's always that sort of thing of like, Hey, use your platform to do the right thing. And you've chosen to do it in a way that, you know, which is to make, you know, to kind of send it up and do it through comedy.
Has that always been something that you've wanted to do? Yes, definitely. I think that the highest aspiration for me would be something like Dr.
Strangelove. That would be the highest aspiration.
To me, that is the near-perfect comedy, which is kind of like how I feel like Flintstone Vitamins. You know, kids are eating Barney and Dino.
They don't need to know what's good for them. You know what I mean? I think that's kind of the best delivery system of ridicule, you know? Right.
Adam McKay's doing a good job of that too, I think, with the satires that he's making about these important issues. And very, very entertaining, which I think is the key, you know? Yeah, for sure.
Mike, talk a little bit about, so you made three Austin Powers movies. You kind of, I think you took a little bit of a break right before you did those movies from acting for like two years.
You hadn't done anything. And then all of a sudden, Austin Powers comes on the scene.
And it absolutely just, it was a smash success. And what was that experience like? Did you know that it was going to have the impact it did? No, I didn't.
I thought you'd have to have grown up in my house to get the movie, to be honest. Yeah.
It's just, it was every movie that I loved, you know, the James Bond, the Matt Helm movies

all the spy spoofs

it's actually a spoof of a spy spoof

really, truthfully

more than it's a James Bond parody

and I wanted to make my own

you know the talk about

spaghetti westerns

I wanted to make my own

knock off James Bond thing

with the assumption that it had always existed

in British culture

and now they're making the movie version of it. And in hindsight, it's quite recherche.
You know, it's a very specific offering. I didn't think it was.
And I'm as surprised as anybody that it impacted mainstream culture at all. I wanted to make almost an indie comedy.
Right. And I didn't know that necessarily it would have any currency beyond people that knew that idiom, you know? Well, beyond it being undeniably funny, I think if people took it like I did, your commitment, as I said earlier, to your character, to your tone of comedy is so infectious that you have no choice but to enjoy it because you are enjoying it so much.
You have so much commitment to it. And it's just it's that it's that helpful tether, that leash that you're providing to the audience., I've jumped in with two feet.
Come on in with me. Yeah, I think a big hallmark of all your characters is how committed you have been.
And as Jason pointed out, it takes a great deal of acting. And you never break.
Even though you have fun with all those characters, you are so thoroughly that person in that moment. And there is that kind of other side.
I'm not asking you to call anybody out, but there is that kind of comedy, which is much more a comment on characters, which to me feels like anytime people talk about deconstructing, I'm like, yeah, well, go ahead and construct first. And then feel free to deconstruct.
But it's so easy to do that do that and you don't ever do that you don't comment on it you just are it is that something that you ever think about i do i actually i i paint a little bit and i found i can't paint anybody that i don't have positive affections for you know what i mean so wow i have paintings of i painted shep in like 15 minutes and it's like one of my better paintings and you know what I mean I can't judge the people I'm doing you know what I mean I have to find where I had lunch with Mike Nichols it was one of the greatest lunches of my life Lauren set it up because he knew I loved Mike Nichols so much. And I said, what's your number one direction? Like, what do you find yourself going to? Because I was like, this is my chance to get some wisdom.
He said, that's a good question. He said, I usually say, I say to the actor, look at the character and go, I am like that when.
Right. So even if you're a murderer, you can do, I am like that when I kill somebody's good evening with a bad mood.
You know what I mean? So that's how they connect is to not judge but to find the... Find the part of you that is closest to that character so that you're not acting.
You're just amplifying a part of yourself almost. And he also said, just remember, it's not actors talking, it's actors thinking.
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It was an unbelievable master class of a lunch that I had with him. Yeah.
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All right, back to the show. Mike, were there ever any characters you wanted to see realized on the big screen that you never got a chance to or is still not coming? I think Dieter.
Yeah, Dieter. I think I could still do Dieter.

I wanted to do that.

I wanted to do, you know.

The other thing is to do everything I do

has a musical connection.

Yeah.

So for me, Dieter would be, in essence,

it would be my Kraftwerk movie.

Wayne's World was my heavy metal movie.

Austin Powers was my Burt Bacharach movie.

Yeah, right. So that's a big influence on what i do as well what is that musical background did you did you did you play a bunch of music when you were a kid no but it was big in my house you know i mean i was raised by you know two culture vultures and then i was raised by two who were, we just inhaled culture.
We just loved stuff. We loved movies.
And Canada's a great place to grow up watching movies, especially Toronto. We had all these fantastic second-run theaters and they were all connected.
So you could one pass and you could go to the Bloor Cinema, you go out to the beaches, all these different places. And I saw the best movies projected with real popcorn, with real butter for 15 years, you know? And I went three times a week.
What about your kids? Do they share the same kind of passion? A hundred percent. What about for showbiz? My wife Kelly is like, I hope not.
And I'm like, it's going to be what it's going to be. And she ultimately is that way too.
But, you know, they are, as I am, made of, you know, 2% water and 99% ham. So I think it's likely going to happen.
Do they get what you've done? Do they give it up? Do they understand your talent and your accomplishments? They do, but they also can torture me with it, which is fantastic. My youngest is Paulina.
She's very, very smart. And I'll be like, okay, you got to go to bed now.
She goes, you're bullying. Right? What? You're bullying.
And then she reached back. I wrote a book about Canada.
And she said, and this book is boring. And I'm like, well, there are parts of it that might be a bit of a polemic, but on the whole, she's fine.
What am I doing? You know, Mike, if I'm lucky enough to get stopped and somebody say something nice, they either bring up Will and Grace or Cat in the Hat. And that was one of the highlights of my career was working with you on that movie.
It was, I watched you work and construct scenes. I'll never forget that time.
And you called me in and was it Dana or somebody else? And you asked us to come up with fixes for jokes. And I was like, Mike Myers is asking me to come up with jokes.
It was really, really impressive to see how hard you work and to what lengths you'll go to make something great. And it's something I stole and I still think about.
Oh, I appreciate that. Yeah, I think it comes from I never thought it would happen and I don't want to blow it, you know what I mean? And it's sort of, you know, I think it comes from, I never thought it would happen.

And I don't want to blow it. You know what I mean? And it's sort of, you just, and also too, just, you know, I grew up very working class.
You have to work. I never thought anyone was going to hire me for anything.
You know what I mean? That's why I wrote so much of Saturday Night Live. Because I didn't think anybody would necessarily write for me.
Why would they? You know? Well, talk about that because I think that it's a very relatable thing for anybody in any industry at any point in life. When you want something really badly and you see that it's actually approaching and then actually maybe you're even in it and the success, the, everybody comes to the point of like, should I ask for help here to either solidify it or make it even better? Or should I hold onto it and make sure nobody screws it up for me? Like there's always that kind of push pull about whether you have the courage to ask for and incorporate help or whether you're just going to kind of say, no, I got here, you know, without, without anybody else.
And I need to stay by myself and at the exclusion of all these other talented people around me. I think that's something that everybody always goes through in any industry at any point in life.
How do you, how did you go through that? It sounds like you did take, you take on other voices. I think, you know, I, I, so when you guys have this show, I'm so envious of your camaraderie, which I love because I started with an improv troupe.
And I'm like, the camaraderie, I would like to have a group of people that I have. But it's always just ended up that I'm writing my own thing and doing my own thing.
But I would love to be part of a larger ensemble, which is ultimately what my training was. It just hadn't worked out that way.
I think it is just kind of, I just, I feel so honored to be on Saturday Night Live. I can't believe it.
Second City, can't believe it. To make comedies that I thought I better honor it by working hard, you know? Right.
But you do collaborate in a leadership role, though, but you do collaborate on, you move from sort of collaboration to collaboration, yeah? Well, I think it's best available idea. Like, if you have a Dana Carvey and he has a funny idea, you'd be an asshole not to go, what was that, Dana? Hold on, shh.
Dana what? You know what I mean? Yeah, that's what you did on Cat in the Hat. We sat down on the floor.
You had all the scenes out, and you were talking about each one. You're like, just let everybody chime in and figure this out to make the best, you know, the best thing we can make.
It was really cool. It has to be best available idea, and it doesn't matter who says it.
It has to be, you know, stone soup. We all have to put our ingredients into the pot.
That's right. I'm assuming your Netflix thing was such a specific, um, project that, that you wrote, as you said, and then, and then you bring in, and then you didn't direct it.
You bring in a director, uh, and that position obviously has a ton of influence over what the audience eventually sees, bringing it off the paper and onto a visual medium. Was that collaboration exciting and fulfilling for you? Thrilling.
Yeah. Yeah, thrilling because he thinks in pictures, Tim Kirkby, and he's kind of, he's an eccentric English guy.
He's an eccentric, I think he's a genius. And the world of the Pentavrid is very, very cinematic.
It's very, we had a fantastic production designer, Simon Rogers, and it's, the production design is as much an offering. It's, you know, like I said, it's like the original Prisoner and the Da Vinci Code had a baby, you know, and it's, I got to play very, different characters which is awesome i got to play a very very old english guy kind of like the very old english person like that and uh i got to play a canadian newscaster which is the sort of like you know here we are at the sportsman show there plenty of things to do, whether you like skeet shooting or fly fishing.
Over there's a thousand pound bull made entirely out of butter. You know, the local news guy.
CHCHTV11. Yeah, CHCH, Hamilton, Ontario.
Well, the Tiger Cats have had a fantastic season this year.

That same song.

You know, whenever I get too Canadian,

Jason will often go, he'll turn to me and go,

oh, is that right, eh?

Like when my Canadian comes out.

Oh, God, but then when you get into it, oh, fuck.

Fuck there, bud.

Oh, fuck, we got a real, yeah.

Buddy of mine.

Everything's buddy of mine. Buddy of mine was telling me.
I paid for those Aerosmith tickets in snows, snow tires. My dad, any day that it's sunny, he's from Winnipeg, so any day that it's kind of over, he'll say above.
He'll go, it was 100 above today. I'm like, well, obviously it wasn't 100 below, so you can just say 100.
Because everything's above or below zero, right? But anything that's above zero, he'll go, gosh, it's a honey of a day, eh, Willie? He's so happy for good weather. Wait, Mike, you know what's amazing to me? Like, you can just manipulate your voice to do so many different people.
Do you, like, watch a commercial or a movie or a person at the store and go, I got to work on that. That's really interesting.
I do. So with Goldmember, there was a show on HBO called Real Sex.
Oh, yeah. And it was this guy who had a born, a sex born, sex barn, right? And it's a three-quarter replica of the red light district of Amsterdam.

And over there's the Chinese fuck swing.

And over there is the room that we keep the towels for the splooge.

And over there's where we...

And it's like...

So that's where Goldmember came from.

That's amazing.

Episode 22 of Real Sex.

By the way, one of the great movie titles, Goldmember.

What was the name of the film that you did?

We'll be right back. so that's where gold member came from that's amazing episode 22 of real sex by the way one of the great movie titles what was the name of the film that you did where you played the scottish guy uh with the size of his head oh so i married an axe murderer oh fuck that was funny god which is where the pentavrit comes from how so because the secret organization that he talked about is called the pentavrit and so i've made the pentavrit the secret organization that he talked about is called the Pentavrit.
And so I've made the Pentavrit, the secret organization that he talked about. Oh, that's cool.
When you go to Scotland or when you encounter Scottish people, what is, what is their reaction? Are they, are you like a Scottish hero? I, yes, to be honest with you, it's been lovely. I was there with Higgins for New Year's Eve because New Year's Eve is big in Edinburgh.
A hoogmanie. And it's giant.
And so a security guy was attached to us. And he went, Mike, I've got an idea for a second.
And I thought, well, we actually did a second one. A second so I married an Axbar girl.
Yeah, okay. And he goes, okay, the sun's all grown up.
And he did the whole, he acted it out.

And it was a really great idea, to be honest.

It had a beginning, middle, and end.

There's a character arc.

I love, by the way, I love that you said,

yeah, it was actually a pretty good idea.

It was.

It was a good idea.

Wait, how did you have two parents from Scotland?

Oh, Liverpool.

No, from Liverpool.

They're from Liverpool, but in Canada, every soccer coach and many cops are from Scotland. Oh, Liverpool.
They're from Liverpool. They're from Liverpool,

but in Canada,

every soccer coach and many cops

are from Scotland.

Is that right?

So it's just

that you're sort of issued

a Scottish accent

if you're in Canadian comedy.

When you were a kid,

did you have a little bit

of an accent living in it?

You know,

and then get rid of it?

No, but I had weird words.

You know,

just weird expressions.

Like my brother

was driving a car,

learning to drive,

and my dad said,

all right,

Thank you. get rid of it or? No, but I had weird words, you know, just weird expressions.
Like my brother was driving a car, learning to drive, and my dad said, all right, let the dog see the rabbit. My brother's like, what? Let the bloody dog see the bloody rabbit.
Right? Which meant pull out to make a left so people know you're making a left. Let the bloody dog see the bloody rabbit.
What dog? What rabbit? So my brother just got out of the car in the middle of Don Mills Avenue. Just got out of this giant thoroughfare in Toronto.
That's hilarious. I never knew what they're saying, but they had a famous accent, you know, because Liverpool and the Beatles, their fame is famous, you know? And so people would knock on the door and go, is Mike in? Knowing I wasn't in, my dad said, oh no, he's kicking about with this other fellow actually.
And they'd say, alright, say it.

My dad would go, I want to hold

your hand. And they'd go, great, cool.

Oh, really?

Yeah. I think

when your parents have an accent,

you get better accents.

For sure.

Yeah. So, Mike,

you didn't direct

the Pentavirate,

but do you see yourself, after this experience,

because you've created and you've

Thank you. Yeah, for sure.
Yeah. So, Mike, you didn't direct The Pentavirat, but do you see yourself after this experience, because you've created and you've, you know, in effect, I imagine, show running, and you know what it's like, and you did direct a documentary, but do you see, is the next step going to be for you to direct yourself in one of these comedies where you do something different, either playing lots of characters or bringing a new character that we've never seen before? Is that something that you're kind of working towards? I might.
I think that, you know, when they say a lawyer defends himself, he is a fool for a client. There's a little bit, I love it when somebody else agrees and adds, if you will, and something that you would never have thought of and that's what my experience with tim kirkby was is he had a big hand in shaping where the series went you know what i mean so i may have created it but where it went tim had a tim kirkby had a big hand in and um i also worked a little bit with michael mccullers on it um who i was the co-writer of austin powers 2 and austin powers 3 and um i love working with him he's really funny and very very smart and i i think i could direct myself i think i could direct other things too which i'd very much be interested in doing stuff that you're not in yeah something i'm not in i have such like when i go to the theater in new york i get a stomach ache before the show because i want the actors to have a good show you know what i mean yeah yeah and i just went and saw hamilton with my uh 10 year old son which was fantastic but he's like are you okay i go i'm nervous i'm nervous he goes you know you the show.
And I'm like, I know, but I want them to have a good show. You're like, I hope this worldwide phenomenon is good.
Yes, I hope this much-awarded, universally-praised offering has a good show. Mike, do you have any plans to make the great Canadian movie, like the John A.
MacDonald story or the Diefenbaker? The Tim Horton story. I did think about playing Trudeau, the senior, Pierre Elliott Trudeau, because I think I could actually do it, to be honest.
I don't doubt it. But, you know, there is a Canadian movie I'd like to do.
Because there is a movement in Canada right now, which my friend Dave McKenzie, who's a comedy writer up in Canada, calls Cinema Bleak, where it's, you know, the children are killed in a bus that goes into a... The ice breaks, the school bus goes in, most of the kids die.
You know, it's all the... It's very, very...
Canada can run quite morbid. Every story is, did you hear about that guy? He died, eh? In Canada.
Yeah, he died. In front of his kids, eh? Yeah.
He died. And then the kids died, eh? In front of different kids.
Yeah. Every story I get from my friends in Canada.
It's horrible. It's true.
Mike, do you remember for a while there were Don Sherry on Coach's Corner would be like, okay, we had a hell of a period between the Leafs and the Capitals here, and Don would go, we did. But first we're going to go, 12 people died.
They fell off a cliff into a lake this morning. And let's put these beautiful, and then he'd start crying.
And then they'd go to commercial. Let's put these beautiful Canadians up there.
Yeah, and you're like, fuck, man, I know I read that too, but what the hell is going on? I know, on Coach's Corner. And you're sitting there going, I'd like to know what the latest trades are.
They just changed the rule. I'd love to know what Don Cherry has to say about the new rule change.
Goalies should be able to go behind the net and play the puck, right? But first, I want to go to Kamloops. Four kids died of a disease that doesn't even have a name.
A dad in Timmins walked out into the woods and he never came back. Never came back.
But he did come back eventually, but he was changed in an indecipherable way. Well, Mike, we've taken up too much of your time, man.
I'm so excited for your show. Honestly, I'm so psyched you're back and you're just doing tons of characters.
That's so exciting. Thank you, guys.
Very cool. Can I just say what a lovely experience this has been? You've been most, most complimentary.
Oh, pal. It's easy to do this for three more hours.
I don't even know what to say. Well, you're a mega talent.
You're a great Canadian. You've been an inspiration to me for a long time.
Likewise. And thank you for taking the time to join us, man.
Not at all. Thank you, guys.
That was fun. Thank you, Mike Myers.
Cheers. Bye, Mike.
See you later. Bye-bye.
Bye-bye now. Bye.
See you. That man is quite a treasure.
Treasure to two countries, not just one. You're right.
He is treasure treasure to two countries not just one you're right he's a treasure to two countries and he was such a big influence on me i was i mean you know same i watched saturday night live all the time i was like my god he's he's there's you know i think will you said a few time a few uh episodes ago where we were talking about saturday night live or maybe somebody was was on from there and how they don't really do as many character stuff, you know? And he was one of the great last ones to really just, like, roll out character after character after character and they were all so different. Oh, we didn't even get into the coffee talk.
Yeah, right, right. And Simon, the kid who was, you know, well, you drawing oh my god I remember that that's so crazy well there's there's a there's a few I mean obviously and I like to tell stories yeah everyone that goes through there is so incredibly talented but there are just a a few that burn bright were able to well but had the range to just nail so many different kinds of funny, so many different kinds of characters.
And they could, they could play a character of another gender even, and just like go. It was really inspirational to the point where it's, it's depressing when they leave that environment because no other place will allow you to do all those different things in, in hour and a half now it sounds like his seven characters with this thing on netflix coming up is is something that kind of you know checks that box thank god but i've i've missed that with yeah you miss it so much yeah he must have like an insatiable drive for these characters and doing the i mean you think about it comes on does wayne's world huge hit then then they make the movie he's still on the show they, huge hit.
Then they make the movie. He's still on the show.
They make the second one. He makes So I Married an Axe Murderer, still on the show.
Then he leaves. Then he does three Austin Powers movies.
He does all this stuff. Like, he just keeps it going.
And now he's doing seven characters. And, you know, he just, it feels like he has this engine for characters that he probably doesn't even know where the on switch is or where the off switch is.
There's no one else like him as far as numbers of characters and output and success, I would say, right? Sean, how's your thinking about a bike going? Because I see your head. I see the wheels.
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