“Courteney Cox”

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Speaker 2 Jason came over the other day on Sunday to watch a little football, and he brought young Maple with with him, and they were to hang with the boys. And

Speaker 2 first thing he does, every time he comes over, he goes straight to my fridge and then to my pantry to walk me through, to shame me for whatever food I've got in the house, right?

Speaker 3 A lot of material.

Speaker 2 But then

Speaker 2 so much of it, it's dripping with jealousy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's trying to shame me for my food.

Speaker 3 How about the three pizza boxes that were in the pantry? There's only

Speaker 3 you and two young boys that live in that house. There were three large pizzas, one of which, thank God, wasn't even eaten the following day, just sitting there on the countertop.

Speaker 2 Well, first of all, we have more than that.

Speaker 2 There are at various times four boys in this house, A.

Speaker 2 And B,

Speaker 2 we like to try a different pizza, and then we eat it over the course of days and we put it in the fridge and we have pizza one day a week.

Speaker 3 So you're not polluting them with just one dinner of pizza. You spread it out over a full week.
And then there's two different kinds of pizza.

Speaker 2 Sorry, I'll show you that I eat cold Those Oreos have been in there for six months.

Speaker 1 This sounds like my

Speaker 1 bad.

Speaker 3 And there's all kinds of different honey-toasted oats and lucky charms. And there was one dusty bag of unopened granola that I went ahead and introduced.

Speaker 1 I'm waiting to hear what the problem is.

Speaker 2 I know. So listen to this.

Speaker 2 So Sean and I. You're hearing the problem is talking.
So, Sean, listen to me.

Speaker 3 You, by the way, we go over to a very nice, respectable couple for dinner the other night.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 3 Will, you were there too. Yes.
Will, Will wants a beverage with his dinner, like most normal people. He goes looking in the fridge for one.

Speaker 3 There's all kinds of healthy drinks in there, some carbonated, flavored, soda-ish things, not good enough for Sean and his titanium stomach. He wants a pure Coca-Cola

Speaker 3 and starts, he's opening up all kinds of cabinets and drawers and everything, wondering, where's the Coke?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Like, what's wrong with this house?

Speaker 1 One soft drink. I was looking for any soft drink.

Speaker 2 Soft drink is fine. And look, Richard went, it's our friend Richard, who's a, who's a, who's a big listener on the program, and we love him to death.
We love him to death. Love him.

Speaker 2 So Richard went out of his way to find us drinks, et cetera.

Speaker 2 But again, the person who's the most upset about it is you, JB. Yeah.
What's your relationship? Let's talk about that. Because you have

Speaker 2 such a knee-jerk reaction when it comes to talking about food and this kind of thing. Let's get into it a little bit.

Speaker 3 I was deprived of sugar, complex sugars, and most carbohydrates growing Do you love them?

Speaker 3 And I love them. Do you love them? I do love them, but my body loves them more.

Speaker 3 And so I have to, you know, keep them away from my body because, as I've said multiple times, there's a 600-pound being just waiting to get out inside me.

Speaker 3 Our surprise guest has a fluffy cover over their camera.

Speaker 2 Our surprise guest,

Speaker 2 they cover themselves with cashmere. Wow, nice.
This is a person who we all adore. I adore.
This is somebody who's universally adored.

Speaker 2 I don't, don't, you'd be pretty hard-pressed to find somebody who didn't have incredible things to say about this person.

Speaker 2 First of all, as a person, then as a performer, then just in every single way, this person, to me, epitomizes a great parent.

Speaker 2 They are a great

Speaker 2 performer. They are a great friend.
In fact, you could almost say that this person is one of America's best friends.

Speaker 2 This person is no other

Speaker 2 friend friend than Courtney Cox. Courtney Cox.

Speaker 2 Courtney with Courtney Court. Reveal yourself.

Speaker 3 Courtney.

Speaker 2 Hi, Courtney.

Speaker 3 Now,

Speaker 3 why is it taking so long? I feel like we have tried to get away.

Speaker 2 Well, we've had a few booking snafus

Speaker 2 with Courtney. She's been elusive a little bit.
Like a little kitty cat.

Speaker 4 It does feel weird since I know you guys so well, but I don't know. Probably because

Speaker 4 maybe just waiting to have something to talk about or I I don't know. It's kind of crazy.

Speaker 3 Which haven't we talked about? Because listener, we all do gather at least once a week. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And usually that's Courtney's fault because she's so generous with her house and her time and her food. And

Speaker 3 it's without her, I think the glue would separate.

Speaker 2 Court, so you.

Speaker 3 Take your time. Take your time, Will.

Speaker 2 No, I was trying to think where to start.

Speaker 2 You've done so many awesome things and people know you from so many incredible things. Obviously, Friends is just a worldwide sensation, the likes of which

Speaker 2 the likes of which have never been.

Speaker 3 Don't do it.

Speaker 2 God damn it.

Speaker 3 Let him have his little phrases.

Speaker 2 But, you know, you've, you know, you've been part of our consciousness, sort of our cultural consciousness for a long time.

Speaker 2 For me, the thing that sticks out the most, and this is one of my favorites, obviously, is Bruce Springsteen's Dancing in the Dark video, which we've talked about. And in fact, if you remember...

Speaker 3 There's a bunch of people that listen to this that are younger than us that have no idea.

Speaker 2 Oh, no idea. So Bruce Springsteen had, when he had his, his

Speaker 2 1984

Speaker 2 huge hit and Dancing in the Dark. Born in the USA.

Speaker 2 Off the Born in the USA record.

Speaker 2 And in the video, Bruce is playing, and then he singles a girl out from the audience, and it's Courtney, and he brings her on stage, and they dance, and they do this iconic dance. And it's so great.

Speaker 3 Where was that, the Coliseum?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was, I think, in St. Paul.

Speaker 2 Oh, Minnesota. Gotcha.
Okay. So, Courtney, I don't know if you remember.
So we were all on, remember we went on, we all went on vacation a few years ago with all the kids and everybody.

Speaker 2 And then I was in the gym and I saw you coming, so I put on Dancing in the Dark. And then we danced.
Do you remember? Oh, Jesus. And that was an iconic moment.
But that, for me, I know, is so good.

Speaker 2 But I love, that was, that was when we first, I think like.

Speaker 2 America first, like you became, and then you have been part of our collection. You know, you've been part of a huge part of the the cultural fabric since then which is a long time

Speaker 4 and what was that experience like for you was it was that because music videos were so huge at that time yeah that was when mtv first started i think uh it yeah you know i auditioned for that just like any other commercial and brian depama directed it he asked me to come into the room not this is not a weird thing but all the people were came into his office and we danced wow And I am, everyone I walked into the room, everyone, these dancers were stretching and I was like, oh no, I'm in the wrong place.

Speaker 4 I'm not a ballerina or I didn't know what was going to happen.

Speaker 4 And so he said, will you dance? And I probably was the same reaction that I got when he pulled me up on stage, just completely nervous, even though I like to dance.

Speaker 4 I was so uncomfortable. And then when I got to St.
Paul,

Speaker 4 I just remember him, Brian De Palma had the flu. So did Bruce Bingstein.
It was his first night of a tour, like the first night he met,

Speaker 4 I'm not met, but sang with Patty Scoffa. Is that her name? How to say it? On stage.

Speaker 4 And there were three girls that were hired. And they, and so when Brian said, okay, so when Courtney goes on stage, and I was like, no, no, no, if there's three of us, I do not want to go on stage.

Speaker 4 Anybody else, she can or she can't. I do not want to.
And of course, that's probably the reason why they chose me.

Speaker 3 So when you did, when you auditioned and he said dance in my office, was it to that song?

Speaker 3 And were you dancing by yourself or with him, Brian Palmer?

Speaker 4 I wish he had stood up and danced. No, it was just me.

Speaker 3 By yourself. Right.
And is my memory right that the iconic dance move that you were doing is very similar to, I want to say, Matthew Perry's dance move

Speaker 3 in the friends opening thing?

Speaker 4 Have you seen Matthew dance in the opening?

Speaker 4 I was copying Bruce. Matthew, no offense.
I hope he's listening, not listening.

Speaker 4 Please watch it again. That's not.

Speaker 3 But one of some one of you dances in the same way, maybe? Or no? My memory is as bad as it is.

Speaker 1 It was very Molly Ringwald.

Speaker 2 Matt LeBlanc. Maybe Matt LeBlanc does it.

Speaker 4 Well, I know that Schwimmer is really good.

Speaker 3 No, no, he does like a slow-motion one or something, right?

Speaker 2 Or no, that's a short. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Schwimmer does. He does that kind of slow-motion walk and bobs his head.
And I think the girls, Lisa does her head shake thing, has one arm up.

Speaker 3 They're all. So no one does the Bruce Springsteen dance in the opening.

Speaker 4 No, I was copying Bruce Springsteen at one point he does a turn all the way around I think and I thought okay I'm gonna just do this and I started going for the turn I thought no you can't do this and I turned back I was too scared

Speaker 4 did you but that was in front of a live crowd did you have to do multiple takes or was it like a one-take thing oh no that's right we did uh at the end of the song he goes what do you do if you like something that much and everybody said do it again and so they did and they filmed it twice wow wow so but it was in the middle of a concert right yeah Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was in the middle of a concert, and that song was just, was it on the radio yet, even when you guys did that?

Speaker 4 I think so. That was his first number one single.

Speaker 2 Right. So it was huge.
And it was, became number one because of the video, basically. I mean, that video was just on all the time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All the time. It was like Michael Jackson's thriller and then Dancing in the Dark.

Speaker 4 They actually filmed a lot more than what was in it. And I remember watching, like we walked in and we got t-shirts and went to the bathroom and put makeup on and put our little muscle shirts on.

Speaker 4 And oh, wow.

Speaker 2 They shot all that.

Speaker 4 That was shot all the stuff. And then, so I'm on the phone with my mom as the videos premiering on MTV.
It was a big deal. I was like, Mom, I got this video and you're going to see me.

Speaker 4 And I was like, I swear I'm coming on.

Speaker 4 And we waited. I'm only in the last 24 seconds.
I was, I was kind of embarrassed about talking to my mom about it, but no one else knew. So I guess that's fine.

Speaker 3 So you auditioned for that as

Speaker 3 an actress.

Speaker 4 And then was there a bump from that that that led to more and bigger opportunities in acting was it beneficial to you yeah it you know i've always done things with people that everybody else wants to know about so if nothing else people would want to see me because i was the girl in the bruce springsteen video and everyone was like how what's bruce really like and then i did family ties it was like what's Michael J.

Speaker 4 Fox really like? And then I did friends and it was like, what's Jennifer Anderson really like?

Speaker 2 What, well, wait, what was so tell talk to me a bit about your family ties experience because obviously uh somebody who's close to our show has a connection to family ties as well all right well Sean

Speaker 3 did I ever see you there I wonder did I

Speaker 4 you must have

Speaker 3 well I don't because I was I was always I would go there after I would get wrapped from my show because I would get off earlier because I was younger and then I remember doing my homework in the in the in the stands uh watching justine finish up rehearsals.

Speaker 2 Jason, tell Tracy

Speaker 2 your connection.

Speaker 3 My sister was on Family Ties. She played Mallory.

Speaker 2 Right. And then, so, Courtney, you came onto Family Ties.

Speaker 4 What season was that? The last two years.

Speaker 2 Last two years. And what was that experience like? Because Family Ties was huge.
It was a huge, massive hit. I loved it.

Speaker 3 You followed the Cosby show, I think, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I think so.

Speaker 4 That was nerve-wracking because being a guest star, you know, first of all, they've been doing it forever forever and they're so comfortable and it's just like second nature to them but i it was a big deal for me and coming on i i just remember you remember the character skippy yeah yeah yeah sure well we called ourselves the b players

Speaker 4 and uh and scott valentine was that am i saying that i think so yeah and we would always say oh the b players are here and for some reason you kind of felt like you had to start over each time because you might not be in for three episodes and then it was like the first time again but uh gary david goldberg was the nicest man in the world, the creator of the show.

Speaker 3 He was the boss of the show, yeah.

Speaker 4 And then also Michael J. Fox is just so sweet.
He was already married at that point and he

Speaker 4 to the other girlfriend, Tracy Polland, who was on before me.

Speaker 2 And she was really sweet.

Speaker 1 Have you ever, because I know like when you are a regular on a show and you have guest stars come in, it's almost like having a guest at your house, right?

Speaker 1 Because it's your home, it's your workplace, and you have this relationship with everybody.

Speaker 1 Has there ever been an experience where you guested on a show like Family Ties or any time in your life, you don't have to say what the show is or who the people are, where

Speaker 1 you didn't have a welcoming feeling and you were like, this doesn't feel good. And you know what?

Speaker 1 When I have a show, when I'm a regular, I'm going to turn this around and make everybody feel welcome, which goes back to the caretaking thing when people go to your house.

Speaker 2 Oh, okay. Well, I don't remember.

Speaker 4 I have to think about the guest storing thing.

Speaker 4 Because I don't think I've ever been comfortable, not that people haven't been nice, but I don't think they reach out as much as I did. And you're right.

Speaker 4 So on friends, first of all, we have run-throughs on Wednesdays, or we did. I love that I'm still on the show.
It's been 15, 20 years, I don't know.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 when we have our run-throughs on Wednesday, so many people would get fired.

Speaker 2 Oh, really? Like friends of mine.

Speaker 4 Really? Yeah. And I would feel, I would always feel so bad because they only had one shot at doing a rehearsal.
And then Wednesday, the network would come through and that would be it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And so I would either send flowers or I would call. I felt so bad for them.
That's very nice. I know it sounds really stupid, but.

Speaker 2 But can you imagine the pressure? Well, you, I was going to say, can you imagine? Of course you can, because you went on Family Ties, which was a huge hit as a guest. And so you know that pressure.

Speaker 2 But can you imagine going to Friends?

Speaker 2 And being a guest star, and you have like one scene and you've got like five lines and you got to score at that run-through in front of the network.

Speaker 2 And the pressure of the number, not just the number one show on TV, the number one show on the planet. And guess what, dude?

Speaker 2 If you don't hit it, like that must have been, I went out and I did Sean's show, Will and Grace, years ago.

Speaker 1 They tried to fire him so hard.

Speaker 2 And they tried so hard. And Jimmy Burroughs was the only one who said, nah, give him another chance, honey.

Speaker 2 But,

Speaker 2 but,

Speaker 2 but I knew that pressure. Will and Grace at that time was, you know, a top five, top ten show.
It was like a massive hit. And I was like,

Speaker 2 well, better be good. You know, it's so true.

Speaker 2 It's scary as a performer. You scored big time.
And all these

Speaker 4 movie actors would come on and they would be so nervous, but of course they would never be fired.

Speaker 2 No.

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Speaker 1 Court, you know what I love?

Speaker 1 I saw you cooking and I was like, and everything.

Speaker 2 I love that. I love it.

Speaker 1 I'm like obsessed with your, whenever you have an Instagram post about you cooking, because you do the thing that where you, it's like, look, it's really easy. You just chop this up.

Speaker 2 You do this.

Speaker 2 And I was like, first of all, where did the love come from?

Speaker 1 Why is it so exciting for me?

Speaker 1 It's so entertaining. I can't take my eyes off it.
And what do you get out of it?

Speaker 3 So wait, what is this? You're talking to a granddad that doesn't have or doesn't not on the Instagram.

Speaker 3 So it's like live recipes?

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 she takes you through the process of cooking. Courtney, you tell us.

Speaker 4 Okay, so when the lockdown happened,

Speaker 4 my hobbies just went through the roof. I started cooking every single night.
I started playing the piano more or, you know, got pretty decent at it. Yeah, very good.

Speaker 2 Played tennis.

Speaker 4 I really did a lot of stuff. And then I, for some reason, Instagram, which takes up so much time.
I don't know why.

Speaker 4 why do I have to do these little videos why can't I just be the person that posts the sunset no I have to edit them and put music to them it's just so stupid but anyway yeah cooking has been great I just what I really take someone else's recipe and either simplify it or act like it's really easy Courtney Courtney what I love you touch on you mentioned something which is great first of all you're cooking you should know Courtney gave me this great

Speaker 2 home

Speaker 2 sort of steak sauce recipe, which was, and Courtney, I don't want to take it it away from you, you tell us what it is. Because I still use it.

Speaker 2 I told you that I still use it to this day.

Speaker 3 She told me. She's a cream of mushroom soup.

Speaker 2 It's a bachelor's gravy. No, no, listen.

Speaker 4 Bachelor's gravy. What is cream of mushroom? Is the bachelor's?

Speaker 2 Cream of mushroom soup.

Speaker 3 Yeah, from a Campbell's can. It's a bachelor's.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 I love a can, and I like my cranberry sauce at Thanksgiving. I want to see the ridges because I think that's key.
But I get that.

Speaker 4 My dad used to make a sauce, and it would be Heinz 57, mostly. That's the main ingredient.

Speaker 2 a1 Worcestershire sauce however you say that and just a little bit of ketchup yeah it's it's a really good sauce incredible and to this day years ago Courtney's like this is what you need to use blah blah blah I did it incredible to this day I still use it so I love that so thank you great tip and if you're out there let us know and we'll read it in the comments so now

Speaker 2 will Will do you have any desire to to cook you don't cook do you I don't I I do have that desire but it feels like

Speaker 2 I wish I knew it was one of those things I wish I knew how to cook. I wish I knew how to play piano.
And this is what I was going to get to. It kind of feeds right into,

Speaker 2 Courtney, you're talking about like you, when you focus on stuff, you get into it. So like tennis, you mentioned, you're a really good tennis player.

Speaker 2 You're like, and you're very modest about everything that you do.

Speaker 2 You've gotten really good at piano. You're good at cooking.
You're kind of good at everything because you focus on it and you spend the time on it.

Speaker 2 Where does that come from? Like that kind of draw. You have that great discipline.
I said it before. You're very disciplined.

Speaker 4 i think that because we've had so much time but i don't i really have pretty bad ad d so i my if i take a piano lesson it's not one hour it's four hours because we get up i go off and do something i you know it's never really focused but i do stick with stuff and i do love the piano so much i love it love it love it it's brought a lot of joy and i've actually you know did you see that post where i played with elton john yes yes yes i mean do you understand the thrill that was it was insane he was holding my arm.

Speaker 4 And I was like, wait, I don't, I don't, I want you to hold my arm, but how am I going to play? I'm so nervous. And Brandy Carlisle was singing behind me and Ed was next to me.

Speaker 4 But that was Ed's idea to do that. It was the song, Hold Me Closer, Tiny Dancer.

Speaker 2 Ed Sheeran.

Speaker 5 Oh, sorry. No, it's for my sister.

Speaker 4 So we did the song to Lisa Kudra, Hold Me Closer, Tony Danza. Right.
And Lisa does a post back and says,

Speaker 4 I really like the song, but it's not, it's Hold Me Close, Young Tony Danza.

Speaker 2 We got it wrong. She's so funny.
That's hilarious. But you've had these, you've had these incredible Sunday night soires.

Speaker 2 So you talk about the family of blah, but also, like you said, you have like skits. It's a little different from your grandmother's house where everybody's doing skits.

Speaker 2 I was there once and Taylor Swift played in your living room or, you know, like just like crazy. And Sheeran, et cetera, et cetera.
It goes on. Music is so important to you.

Speaker 2 Obviously, Johnny, your boyfriend, is an incredible musician, songwriter, performer, everything. That's a really, do you feel like you missed your calling a little bit?

Speaker 4 If I was really good,

Speaker 4 I would have been for sure in music and been in a band. I just wish I'd started earlier, not started when I'm 50.

Speaker 2 Well, that's what I mean. Like,

Speaker 2 did it hit you like, oh, gosh, I should have done, this is what I should have been doing?

Speaker 4 Because it brings you so much. I love it.
Yeah, exactly. I wish I was a musician, a real one.
That's how I, actually, yeah. Sunday nights have been great.

Speaker 4 That's how I met Johnny is that he was brought over by Ed.

Speaker 2 You summoned him.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah, you you did.

Speaker 2 It just happened. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The universe served him up. We believe in that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You know, I believe in that.

Speaker 3 Well, you could, I mean, you've got plenty of time. You could sort of,

Speaker 3 you, you could weave some music into the next chapter in your career. I mean, what would that do right? What would be the natural transition to that?

Speaker 2 That would be, if you go, if you were in a punk band, like really, if you played heavy metal, you guys could be called

Speaker 2 Courtney and the Hardcocks. And I'm just saying,

Speaker 2 no, because it would be a heavy.

Speaker 2 Like really. Yeah, that would be heavy.

Speaker 1 would you would you ever write stuff or would you ever like challenge?

Speaker 4 I wrote one song about it so many years ago with Johnny. No, I've never written a song with Johnny.

Speaker 2 No, Johnny has written like so many huge hits.

Speaker 1 It's a sound.

Speaker 2 Tell my sister who Johnny is.

Speaker 4 Okay, so Johnny, Johnny McDade is in Snow Patrol, but really as another, like not his side job, but an incredible part of his career is that he writes with Ed.

Speaker 4 He wrote Bad Habit. I mean, I guess Bad Habits, but he also wrote Shape of You.
He's written

Speaker 4 with Ed, probably 90% of his last album and even other ones in the past. Amazing.
He also wrote like What About Us with Pink, and he wrote Underdog with Alicia Keys.

Speaker 4 But he writes with people all the time, Louis Capaldi. He's just incredible.
He's a poet.

Speaker 3 Have you ever talked to him about maybe writing a song with him?

Speaker 4 Well, what am I going to do once I have it? I can't sing.

Speaker 3 Yes, you can. No, no, no, but you can just be a songwriter, like participate in his songwriting endeavors.

Speaker 3 Like, does he ever like run some lyrics by you and you go oh but what if you say x y and z and he goes oh coordinate that's great oh sorry hey

Speaker 2 hey hey guys accent alert here we go guys johnny's here

Speaker 2 tougher than my anti-teases

Speaker 4 you don't want to just do like throw in lucky charms while you're at it how offensive i did accent alert i wrote one song i mean one line of a song and and a birdie song uh it's called wild horses And I was thinking that song was very much like I Will Survive by Gloria Gaynor.

Speaker 4 And so one of the lines was, I will not beg you to stay. And that was my contribution to that song.
Oh, wow. But I will say, Johnny doesn't sound as much like an Irish lebrechant.

Speaker 4 Is that fair to say I'm canceled now? Okay. As he's from Northern Ireland.
And it's the hardest accent to do.

Speaker 3 Can you do you do a Johnny? Got it. Courtney?

Speaker 4 I mean, it's now is no.

Speaker 2 It's so hard. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Hey, Will. Um, have you ever tried to do Johnny?

Speaker 2 Let's hear it. No, that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 Court.

Speaker 2 Are you there now?

Speaker 2 It's really good. It's not bad.
It's not bad.

Speaker 2 So, I mean, yeah, he's just such a mega talent. And so that must, that being,

Speaker 2 you know, having that sort of in your life, you know, must be so satisfying.

Speaker 2 Like that you get, because you guys are always, he's always creating and you're creating and you get to, you're in that thing. I mean, that's exhilarating.
It would be like,

Speaker 2 it would be like, I'd have to marry Shanny, I guess. That would be the

Speaker 2 Brendan Shanahan friend of the show.

Speaker 3 Well, now, Court, can we talk about the challenges of being in love with somebody who's half a planet away?

Speaker 4 That is challenging.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he lives in London and I live here. We spend a lot of time on FaceTime.
And for some reason, I have the worst internet in the world. So half the time it's

Speaker 4 not working. And because he's so technological and I'm not, I don't know how to fix anything.
I just go, I don't know. And that seems to be our biggest conflict is our FaceTimes.

Speaker 3 Which you guys do get to be in person.

Speaker 2 Reboot, reboot the router.

Speaker 3 Turn it off, turn it on.

Speaker 2 Reboot the router.

Speaker 2 Started again.

Speaker 1 But how often do you see him? How often do you not see him? Like, what's the race?

Speaker 2 He says, guys, we're getting really then on a very special smart list.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, we're getting personal.

Speaker 2 Oh, no, I just.

Speaker 4 Well, okay, we didn't see each other very much during the first part of lockdown. Sure.

Speaker 4 Even when I could have, I was with my brother and he was riding with Ed up in Suffolk, and that was kind of tough. But now I go there a lot.

Speaker 4 I feel like I go there once a month, or he doesn't come here as much just because I think it was first of all. I just opened up in November to America, to people outside of the UK.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, I go there a lot.

Speaker 2 But for a while, it was because of COVID. You just like, don't even go there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was, I mean, it was just hard. He couldn't come here, and I

Speaker 4 was busy with my brother.

Speaker 3 What about are you? Have you ever thought about moving to England or has he ever thought about moving here?

Speaker 4 Well, he used to live here. We lived together a long time ago, and then he moved to London because we broke up for a little while.

Speaker 4 And then, but, you know, once Coco goes to school, that will be a whole other thing. We could spend much time on that.

Speaker 2 You've been keeping her out of school this whole time?

Speaker 3 You're going to get arrested for that.

Speaker 2 Coco's going to school, right? Like college. Yeah.

Speaker 4 She got into her one choice.

Speaker 2 That's great. Nice.
Yeah. That's great.
I know. It's really exciting.

Speaker 3 Now, how are you going to, just to, just to, to keep you sad,

Speaker 3 how are you going to deal with it when Courtney goes away to school? Do you have a strategy? Can I ask when

Speaker 3 I say

Speaker 3 Courtney? Oh, yeah. When Coco goes, because I'm asking only because I've already started thinking about my strategy with Franny and Maple.
It's not going to be easy for me to be an empty nester. No.

Speaker 2 Are you going to follow her, do you think?

Speaker 3 Or are you just going to wallpaper your house with pictures of her?

Speaker 4 Well, you know,

Speaker 4 my sister, it was so hard for her when her kid her last kid went off and then i think of johnny's sister she started getting really upset the year before yeah i think coco's prepping me she's never home yeah she's always in her room so i don't even know if i'm gonna like i'll miss a couple of things she does they'll come up to my room and we'll snuggle every now and then for a minute then she'll say can i go to someone's house which she's prepping you know she's always prepping me for something and uh i i don't know i will i'd love to maybe get a a place or just be around her when she goes.

Speaker 2 Wherever she goes.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And maybe buy a bunch of cats just to kind of compensate.

Speaker 2 Do you find yourself? You're always busy with work. I was going to get back.
So do you think that work will, when Coco does go, that you'll just kind of maybe occupy yourself a lot?

Speaker 2 And you're always, again, you're always very busy. You're doing a lot of stuff.
You've got a new show coming out on Stars soon, right? What's the show?

Speaker 4 It's called Shining Veil. It's on Stars.
It airs March the 6th. I think that the last year has been the busiest year of my life.

Speaker 4 I'm starting a product line, which Jason, I know you know, because you smell a lot of the stuff, the candles, and you've given me good opinions.

Speaker 2 Let's take those by the numbers. So you're doing the new show on Stars.
Talk a little bit about what it is.

Speaker 4 Okay, so the show is, it's got Greg Kinnear and Miro Servino and Gus Bernie. And I always panic.

Speaker 2 You can come back.

Speaker 4 Jake Dylan.

Speaker 4 And it's great. It's about a woman who is going through menopause.

Speaker 4 and well i should why did i just say midlife crisis why'd have to go to menopause but um yeah you say whatever you want it's both and uh she has an affair with the handyman they she wants to start her life over and they move to connecticut into a haunted house and only the only person that can see the ghost is me and everybody else thinks i'm you know i'm i'm psycho So it's, it's a comedy, but it's also, it's a thriller.

Speaker 4 Right. And that's kind of a genre bending thing because it's not a comedy like Scream where Scream is it's a slasher.

Speaker 3 By the way, congratulations on Scream. Scream's huge, huge hit right now.

Speaker 2 Huge hit.

Speaker 2 So you've had, I was going to say this, so you've, you've actually had a lot of success in that kind of like, I know that, that Scream is kind of over the top and it's a comedy, but it's also a scary genre.

Speaker 2 Yeah, genre. So you, but that, that, is that something that you've always been attracted to or you've thought about?

Speaker 4 I'm not really like horror films, but I mean, I have, that was my fifth one to do.

Speaker 4 But I do like to be, I mean, I love to be, well, I shouldn't say this because then people scare me and I don't really like to be scared. So what I think I do, I like those kind of movies.

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Speaker 4 Well, I will say after I saw this last scream, I'm certain Ghostface is somewhere. I would like to go up if the dogs wake up in the middle of the night.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm so scared because it's dark and I don't really know. I take a flashlight, but I'm certain someone's going to jump out.
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Speaker 3 Do you have any funny fears? Like, I got one about bees. I just can't bees just wreck my day.
Bees?

Speaker 2 Bees? Bees. Beads.

Speaker 2 Beads.

Speaker 3 Bees.

Speaker 3 Do you have like, like, are you, do you look under the bed? Do you avoid walking under ladders? Do you, do you have a fear of earthquakes? Like, what's your funny fear?

Speaker 4 I think my fear would be of birds. Birds? I don't like things flapping around me.

Speaker 2 That makes me pant. Birds.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Or like a bird, if there's a crow outside, because those are big, those crows. I'm certain they're going to come peck me.

Speaker 3 Birds are dinosaurs closer than lizards are.

Speaker 2 Oh, thanks, Doctor.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 3 Sean, what's your funny fear?

Speaker 2 My funny fear. Oh, boy, here we go.

Speaker 3 There's a two-hour episode.

Speaker 1 What is it?

Speaker 2 I guess. Women, there we go.
Will?

Speaker 2 Jesus.

Speaker 2 I fear nothing.

Speaker 3 And back to Courtney.

Speaker 2 No, wait.

Speaker 1 What is my fear? My fear is I have a fear of bees a little bit. I have a little, I understand the bird thing.
I've got a lot of things better.

Speaker 2 Yeah. What's that?

Speaker 3 Sorry, mine's gotten better, but it's still there. Go ahead.
Birds you can relate to as well?

Speaker 1 Yeah, what is my fear?

Speaker 4 Spiders?

Speaker 2 No, I don't fear spiders. Croaches.
Cockroaches? Rats? I don't know.

Speaker 3 Well, how about food that is moldy that you can't see until you're chewing it?

Speaker 2 Oh, that's something I fear.

Speaker 3 I got to always check the strawberries. Check the blueberries.

Speaker 2 That's weird that it's food-related.

Speaker 2 Fuck me, man.

Speaker 1 I have a fear of losing gas in my car, of like driving and not looking down at at this.

Speaker 2 You drive a Tesla.

Speaker 1 No, I don't.

Speaker 2 Scotty, you've got no gas in your car.

Speaker 3 How about a spider in the toilet?

Speaker 2 A spider in the toilet.

Speaker 1 It's going to crawl up your ass.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I had this fear for years and years and years and years based on nothing.

Speaker 2 And then last year, again, the universe delivered it.

Speaker 3 There was a spider in my toilet. And I was like,

Speaker 3 I thought I was just being a freak. It really can happen.

Speaker 2 No, because you thought about it long enough. If you think about something, the universe will deliver it.
Hang on, guys.

Speaker 3 Everyone listening? Go ahead.

Speaker 4 What about those centipedes, this one with all the little legs? You know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 2 the long.

Speaker 3 I once found a centipede in a house I was renting in New Mexico where it's lousy with centipedes. And it was in the middle of the night.
I was watching a Dodger game at like 2:30 in the morning.

Speaker 3 I saw this little thing skitter across the floor. And there was, my mattress was on the floor in this house, right? So I knew I had to find the centipede if I had any hope of getting any rest.

Speaker 2 Sounds like you were holed up. Were you like in a hostage situation with a mattress on the floor in New Mexico? No, it wasn't a high-end.

Speaker 2 Bathtub full of mattresses on the street.

Speaker 3 It took me so long to find this centipede when i finally did i stamped down on it so hard with my heel that i bruised my heel i couldn't walk straight for a week wait wait did you wear shoes to do that i had slippers on you know me and of course you had slippers on yeah it was i had a friend a good friend of mine had a silverfish in his ear oh that is close he had it he had a go he was like why do i have like a little bit of a headache

Speaker 2 and they pulled it out of his ear and it was in went in there when he was sleeping from his bed have you ever seen a thing don't look up bot fly on youtube have you ever seen a bot fly No.

Speaker 2 They're like in, yeah, they're in the jungles of like Central and South America, and they go and they burrow into your skull, and then they reproduce.

Speaker 2 And so these people, like you see these videos of people who go back to England, they go to their doctor, like,

Speaker 2 something that saw to meet, haven't I? And then they go in there,

Speaker 2 and then this thing just, they pull out.

Speaker 3 Hey, Will, what website are you, what website have you been going to lately?

Speaker 2 We wrote a scene once where for we did that show Running Wild, Mitch and I, Hurwitz and Jimmy Van.

Speaker 3 Paul for applause.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we wrote the scene where we wanted to have David Cross is being held in like a quarantine because he's got a bot flying.

Speaker 2 It's funny.

Speaker 2 Courty, what do you, but what is, what's your number one fear?

Speaker 3 Would you say that? Not just funny fear.

Speaker 2 Real fear. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is it anything about working? Like, do you fear not working? Do you love to work?

Speaker 1 Do you have the perfect work-life balance now?

Speaker 2 Do you wish one was well, don't, don't, Your Honor, leading the window.

Speaker 3 I was asking, maybe it's something to do in her personal life.

Speaker 2 Maybe she's, it's not all about Hollywood Hayes.

Speaker 4 hollywood haze i'd have never thought of that a new podcast well i know people what would be my biggest fear uh

Speaker 4 maybe that

Speaker 4 anything to do with coco like her not health of the kids something yeah yeah yeah or actually coco's heart yeah i mean i think she's you think i'm a caretaker oh my god coco is the biggest caretaker And then I always worry, I worry about her.

Speaker 3 That she's going to care for the wrong person.

Speaker 4 Or not about guys or relationships, but more about her, even just her friends.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 3 Hang on. Will's got a joke.
Go for it.

Speaker 2 I was going to say, Jason's biggest fear is

Speaker 2 living it out to the right on number four in big OB.

Speaker 2 What does that mean? Right? It's golf.

Speaker 3 It's out of bounds on the right side of the four-fair way.

Speaker 3 So, all right, so court, now let's get out of fear and sadness and empty nesting.

Speaker 2 Now, let's get into her product line, which I wanted to because that was the other thing. So, you're so busy, which is kind of goes to Sean what you were saying.

Speaker 2 Like, do you, is this because you have a fear of

Speaker 2 what is that drive of like, well,

Speaker 3 I'm smelling nice.

Speaker 2 No, but like you've got like a million shows. And the reason I asked you too is because you produced this show, you produced Cougar Town, you've produced a lot of stuff that you've done.

Speaker 2 Like you've always got so many things. And now you've added on this personal,

Speaker 2 how do you describe it? Personal care line?

Speaker 4 Well, no, it's not, it's more of a home line. It's called home court.

Speaker 4 Nice.

Speaker 2 Like home court advantage or home court.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That's really great.

Speaker 4 But so I love scents. I'd like I love to mix oils and you know perfume.

Speaker 4 I love that. So I wanted to start a candle company.
And then I thought we spend so much time at home. And at first, of course, I love the smell of Clorox when we first locked down.

Speaker 4 But then I thought once things, we didn't have to wipe down our packages and all that stuff, I thought, why not have your home like room spray, a counter spray, your dish soap, or your hand soap, and what smell like the way you'd want your, it's called beauty products for the home, essentially.

Speaker 4 And it's all recycled plastic. It's all,

Speaker 4 we, we got a chemist that does makeup. That's how it's, it's approved for everything.
So not, I'm not saying spray it in your face like an atomizer, but or a, what's it called? Toner. Spritzer.

Speaker 4 But if it got on, you're it's.

Speaker 2 Jason wants to see the carb count before he sprays that on his face.

Speaker 3 Yeah, will it make me puffy if I spray it on my face?

Speaker 4 Do not do that, but it's safe for everything. And it smells so good.
And there's four scent.

Speaker 3 You basically have one scent that goes through your whole house, whether it be your dishwashing soap, your hand soap, your room spray.

Speaker 1 No, but what if you want to mix, you don't want one scent, you want to mix it up?

Speaker 4 Yeah, there's four scents, but each scent goes through all the product lines. So you may want to wash your dishes with.

Speaker 4 rows and you may want your room to have a candle that is my signature scent, which I think smells incredible. It's kind of smoky slash.

Speaker 2 I love that idea. Do you see yourself expanding because you do love design and architecture and all that stuff?

Speaker 2 Do you see yourself getting in expanding that into doing like home furnishings and stuff like that? Like, I think that you would put it this way.

Speaker 2 If you had a line of stuff, I'd be like, well, I'm going to do what Courtney does.

Speaker 4 I mean, anything can happen because once you have a company called Home Court, you could do anything. I mean, we could expand to whether it's laundry pods to, I mean, that would be great.

Speaker 4 I love to make sheets because I'm obsessed with sheets.

Speaker 3 Well, Sean needs a new set.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he sure does.

Speaker 1 I don't cheat myself.

Speaker 2 Got it. So, Courtney,

Speaker 2 what's on tap for you for the rest of the day? What's your life like right now? What do you do?

Speaker 3 Tell him you're busy. Tell him you're busy.

Speaker 2 The D to D, the D to D.

Speaker 4 All right, I'm going to go into town and box.

Speaker 4 I'm going to

Speaker 4 go to a dermatologist because I had this weird thing on top of my head. And it was like a little.

Speaker 2 Might be a butt fly. Could be a butt fly.

Speaker 4 Oh, shit. I better check that.

Speaker 4 And then I'm going to go with Amanda, by the way.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm going to go. Well, I'm going to go to a, oh, I want to go to the gym equipment place first because I want to buy some home gym equipment.

Speaker 3 You've got a great home gym. You're adding to it?

Speaker 2 Yeah, you've got so much.

Speaker 4 I want like a machine. I can do things.
I need to.

Speaker 3 Gotcha. Now, you know, Will's Will boxes with

Speaker 3 Fight Camp.

Speaker 2 I do. Oh, you do? Every day.

Speaker 3 Get one of those Fight Camp things in your gym. You don't have to drive into the city to box.

Speaker 4 Courtney, it has been a fight camp.

Speaker 2 It's been a game changer. Our buddy, we have a friend of the show

Speaker 2 who sometimes writes in questions, a JT out of New York.

Speaker 2 And he's got a Justin T. He's sleeve challenged.
Let's just say that. He's sleeve challenged.
Yeah, poor guy.

Speaker 2 And he turned me onto this thing, Fight Camp, about a year ago. No, six months ago.
And it's so good. And it's like a,

Speaker 2 you know, there's like a whole program. You can do it like on your laptop or your thing.
And then you have a heavy bag and you do the, you know, I did eight rounds this morning.

Speaker 3 When do they tell you to expect results? Well,

Speaker 2 we're all dying

Speaker 2 oh boy no seriously court you could go over to will's place you guys could do boxing sessions together you guys could build like a little ring come look at my setup it's so good come with amanda well i'm not i'm gonna be playing golf today with our friends from calloway oh yeah what's calloway these people from callaway thank you callaway they are they're very generous is that a golf course or a it's a golf company hashtag rogue

Speaker 2 the new stuff. And they send us some new stuff, and it's really nice.
And we didn't even, this is not a paid thing. We just, they just sent us some golf clubs.
Hey, let me ask you something.

Speaker 2 Sean doesn't want to complain. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you do you have to buy your own golf balls or do they give them to you when you go?

Speaker 3 They are nice enough to give us some golf balls.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they give us golf balls too.

Speaker 2 But generally, a person, you go and you buy golf balls. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I gave you some golf balls, Jay, for Christmas. I just didn't know.

Speaker 3 Yeah. No, I have those.
Yeah. Okay, great.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That's a weird way to say thanks.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I have those what a funny what a funny twist on thank you

Speaker 2 uh wait so

Speaker 2 so cordy you're gonna go you're gonna go and do what i love about it is talking about self-care you're going to do it you're going to do a workout you're going to get some gym equipment you're going to get going to the dermatologist like and i'm going to hang out with jason's wife amanda wait what are you doing with my wife and is it going to benefit me at all you go shopping for me and any Well, she's going to get some food, so maybe she'll bring it home.

Speaker 2 That's helpful.

Speaker 4 But we're going to go visit Nicole.

Speaker 2 Okay,

Speaker 2 Nicole Levant. Yeah, good.

Speaker 2 Okay, and you guys are going to go buy some yummy food, Jason. Oh, you guys are going to have some yummy cardboard.
I can't wait. Some

Speaker 2 gluten-free or

Speaker 1 bread on there.

Speaker 2 By the way, I like gluten-free bread more than regular bread. It's chicken.
It's chicken. What a break.
It's a declaration.

Speaker 2 Thank you for that. Incredible.

Speaker 4 I'm gluten-free. Which kind of bread do you eat?

Speaker 3 Anything gluten-free. Gluten-free pizza is real yummy too.

Speaker 2 Oh, you've convinced yourself that's good, too? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Have you guys tried quinoa? This is wonderful.

Speaker 1 Have you tried regular just everyday food, Jesse?

Speaker 3 No, I'm trying to hit 100, Sean.

Speaker 3 I want to get to 100. I'm not happy with 65.

Speaker 2 So, Courtney, anyway, gosh, I mean, we could just keep going forever. We could hang.
I didn't even realize that we're over the time. We've taken up way too much of your time.

Speaker 2 We just love talking.

Speaker 3 Do you have a tea time, Will? You got to get out to the range? No, I actually don't, not yet.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 1 Courtney does. She does.

Speaker 2 We love talking to you. Spending time with you is just the best.
You're such an awesome person.

Speaker 2 I'm going to end the same way that we started. So thanks for coming and hanging with us.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Thank you. I don't get to see you enough these days.
So I miss hanging out.

Speaker 3 I don't feel like we did an episode today. This just feels like just normal chat because we're all so close, which I guess means it's great.

Speaker 4 Thanks, guys. I'm so glad to be on the show.

Speaker 2 Really,

Speaker 4 all three of you looking at you just like, oh, friends.

Speaker 2 Thank you, honey. Thank you.
Yeah, well, good luck. Listen, good luck with your show.
Very, very looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 We can't wait to watch it.

Speaker 2 Tell us the date again when it starts.

Speaker 4 March the 6th.

Speaker 2 March 6th. March 6th.

Speaker 3 And the line came out on January 26th. Home court.
And

Speaker 2 if you don't go buy home court, no, no, no, not free. She's starting a business.

Speaker 2 Go buy a dozen candles. Go get a friend's rate.
Thank you, Courtney.

Speaker 2 We love you.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Courtney.

Speaker 2 Love you, honey. Court love you.
Bye, Susie. Bye, Court.
Just slam it. Slam it.

Speaker 3 Slam the laptop.

Speaker 2 Slam it.

Speaker 2 Bye. Yeah.

Speaker 2 How great is Courtney? And I know that I sort of started and ended the same way, but she's such a great person.

Speaker 1 Always made me feel warm and welcome anytime I see her or anytime I was over her house. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Really funny, really sweet, really cool, and very

Speaker 1 considerate. Not affected by her success or feeling.

Speaker 2 She is of the earth.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I love it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't have anything nice to say.

Speaker 2 That's funny because she entertains you a lot. Like you go and stay at her house quite often.

Speaker 3 Listen, she is a single mom that has an incredible daughter

Speaker 3 and is incredibly, they're both so happy and fulfilled in their life. They've got an incredible group of friends around them.

Speaker 3 It's in such a sort of

Speaker 3 star-filled sort of world that brings all of its sort of complexities and challenges and all of that garbage, she lives a very normal life, which is great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she leads a deserved, charmed life.

Speaker 2 You know what is so funny?

Speaker 2 Dax and I used to always joke about this, that we joke like the greatest compliment that we'd be like, sort of faux humbled by is if somebody said, like, he's a great guy, and he's just an incredible friend.

Speaker 2 What a friend. We'd be like, oh, like have this sort of false modesty, like, oh, thank you.
Thank you. But she is the epitome of that.
Yeah, for sure. She is such a great friend to so many people.

Speaker 2 And she's kind of one of those people that if anybody's going through anything, you're not surprised when they go, like, I called Courtney. You're like, yeah, of course.
Of course you called Courtney.

Speaker 2 She's going to give you good advice and she's going to listen and she's going to be kind and thoughtful and loving and warm. She's going to be there for you.
Yeah. Yeah.
Cause I have a friend.

Speaker 2 He's like, my job's a joke. I'm broke.
My love life's DOA. I feel like I'm always stuck in second gear when it hasn't been my day, my week, my month, or even

Speaker 2 my year.

Speaker 3 Wait, is that are those the lyrics to the... Come on.

Speaker 2 Oh, hey, Jason, I just got a text from 1994.

Speaker 3 Wait a second. Is that truly the lyrics of the song of the old friends?

Speaker 1 That's the song of the

Speaker 2 old friends. Good God.

Speaker 3 Don't you think they should bring the whole cast back, not call it, not a reboot of friends, call it enemies, right? So they've gotten older and now they're just assholes to each other.

Speaker 3 Don't you think that would be funny? Yeah. No.
Enemies?

Speaker 2 No. No.

Speaker 2 Terrible idea. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but pitch it around town.

Speaker 2 See what you get.

Speaker 2 You know what I want to say to you?

Speaker 3 What's that?

Speaker 2 Bye.

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