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Speaker 1 All right, live on a Sunday night, the BS podcast. Cousin Sal is here.
We're going to guess the Lions. We're going to talk about a whole bunch of stuff.

Speaker 1 Right before we came on, Jaden Daniels got hurt. He looked like he dislocated his elbow.
It's not our fault. Are you blaming us? No, I'm just saying this is why we were delayed on YouTube.

Speaker 1 We were going to come earlier, but he went down and it did not look great. And it was not a great night for the Washington Commanders.
We will talk about that later.

Speaker 1 I'm going to do something we've never done in 18 years of Guest the Lions. What's that? Start talking about another sport to start the podcast.
We got to go backwards.

Speaker 1 Basketball, though. Not in the background.
No, no, baseball. I won't talk baseball.
I want to talk about last night. Dodgers going back to back.

Speaker 1 One of the great baseball games. I think of my lifetime and yours, right? That's on the, I don't know what the greatest is.
I don't know. You know, I almost feel like it's actors.

Speaker 1 Like, you could say Meryl Streep's the greatest actress ever, but if you said greatest actor, you could probably list six or seven.

Speaker 1 We've had some great baseball games in the World Series in our day, right? Jack Morris,

Speaker 1 that World Series.

Speaker 1 07, Cleveland, Florida was awesome. The Arizona Yankees game was awesome.
That 2016 Cubs game. So there's been some good ones.

Speaker 1 This one had everything, though. And I think when you combine the other three losses or the other two losses that Toronto had, I think this was a uniquely awful experience for Blue Jays fans.

Speaker 1 I can't come up with another loss like this, right? For the culmination starting with the 18-inning game to now. So I want to start with the loss and then go to the win.

Speaker 1 But if that had been the Mets, would you be able to do the podcast tonight? No, I don't think so. Even a day removed.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's as bad as it gets. And there was already the stink of game seven, Toronto, right, for the city.
And the hockey team can never get that past game seven.

Speaker 1 And it's one of those series where you think, wow, should they have just lost to Seattle in six? Like, would that have been better? Would that have been better for them emotionally?

Speaker 1 Showing up, like, and then up 3-2 and then up 3-3-0 in game seven which your red sox were up three nothing to my mets you weren't home at the time but it was really eerily reminiscent i kept thinking of you but so you think this you thought game seven was better than the the one you went through the 18 inning game or it's just the best game seven you've ever seen i think i'm talking game sevens yeah with the drama of bringing in the baggage from the 18 inning game from game six when it seemed like they had it they're bringing in glass now basically you know they third and second, it just seems like they're something good's going to happen for them.

Speaker 1 And all of a sudden, the game's over. Guy gets doubled off off second.
Announcers gloss over. I'm still trying to figure out why he drifted over that far on a ball that

Speaker 1 Kikai caught like this. Right.
But, but then going up 3-0,

Speaker 1 having it in the ninth, having Hoffman as this giant wart on your body that you're just hoping nobody picks. Oh, I had him in the AL keyboard.
I was just waiting for him to do that.

Speaker 1 And then who hits the homer to tie it? And then

Speaker 1 what happened, how the the game ended, how the instant replay.

Speaker 1 Has there ever been a closer instant replay where the team plays? A single cleat, a single cleat.

Speaker 1 And that's, look, with these seven-game series, and you'll run into the same thing with a great basketball series, but when there's a series, unlike the Super Bowl and like Atlanta fans will be like 28-3, I could point to 16 things that happened.

Speaker 1 But when you have like a nine- or 10-day series and you lose so close, like you could point to a hundred things. Like you, Blue Chase fans, I can't even imagine what they're going through.

Speaker 1 In that 18 inning game there were six thing six base running errors that everybody made and then as you talk about the cleat and the double play and uh it just uh well was he leading off third too much and now all these major league baseballs are coming to kind of left his defense like i i don't even know what how i'd be able to handle this as a meds fan it's as bad as loss as you'll find

Speaker 1 yeah i remember when i when I wrote about the game six of the 86 World Series, one of the great moments of your life. Oh, yeah, let's hear about this.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All the different moments where the Red Sox could have finished the game off, right? And the reverse of that was when the Patriots came back against the Falcons 23.

Speaker 1 And I think it was like 15 plays where if any play had gone differently Atlanta's way, they win.

Speaker 1 Like most famously, the Julio Jones, when they had the catch, but then they somehow go backwards and have to punch and kick a field goal. But there's a million of those.

Speaker 1 And I think those are the worst ones as sports fans. Those are the ones that still haunt me.
Like the Celtics in game four of the 87 Finals being up six with two minutes left.

Speaker 1 And I can still remember the entire sequence where we lost the lead, where it's just like that play, that play. And you just think about it.
In a way, it's way worse than it is better to win.

Speaker 1 You're more haunted by the loss than you are. No question.
The celebration of the win. You're just relieved.
You're just relieved when you win.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, on top of all that stuff, all the plays that came down to a quarter of an inch or this or that or this weird decision, they're up against like this Halloween zombie in Yamamoto who pitched game two,

Speaker 1 game six, and they're like, all right, we've had enough of him. Game seven and like raises his hand to volunteer for games before that too.
Like, what the hell is going on here?

Speaker 1 How do you have such an intense force on the other side? And how do you keep combating that? And they just couldn't, I guess.

Speaker 1 That's never happened, right? Like, what was Baumgartner, the situation with him with the Giants? It wasn't like the next day, him pitching 40 pitches, was it? I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 This was like, I just thought when somebody started a game and threw 90-plus pitches, we did not get to see that person the next day. That person's just scratched.

Speaker 1 And Fox was never showing the available pitchers, which I don't understand how that's not a graphic.

Speaker 1 We got to see the Joe Carter homer 397 times in the graphic and game-winning homers and all this stuff. And they were so concerned with the history of everything and not just telling us, like,

Speaker 1 here's who's left for the Dodgers. Kershaw,

Speaker 1 like, Kershaw got up in extra innings. It was like, oh my God, can you imagine?

Speaker 1 Can you imagine if he has to come in and pitch during this? But I felt so bad for the Blue Jays.

Speaker 1 If Luke doesn't swing at ball four, Toronto wins that 18-inning game that you were at. By the way, congratulations for sticking it through.

Speaker 1 You're one of the big, one of the great Dodger fans out there, I think. I'd have to say at this point.
It was great to be there with the other Dodger fans.

Speaker 1 Well, I was thinking the difference with this Blue Jays loss is the three together. I don't remember that in a seven-game series for a baseball team before.
Three horrible losses. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 The 18-inning game alone is like the worst loss you're going to have in five years, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then the

Speaker 1 blowing game six, when everybody goes there, everybody thinks they have it in the bag. And then it seems that multiple points there in that game, they're going to win that one.

Speaker 1 And then game seven, when they went up 3-0, I remember, remember that Cardinals, the World Series like in 85 when Andohar flipped out and the Royals just killed them like 11.

Speaker 1 I really started to wonder, like, is this going to be like a blowout? Are the Blue Jays just going to kill them?

Speaker 1 Like the Dodgers, it felt like the Blue Jays were a slightly better team and the Dodgers were just going to, they were hanging on, hanging on, doing it all in DNA and then eventually it was going to run out.

Speaker 1 And then the Long game went every two wins, they'd get a run and they'd come back there. And for like to get beaten, it's one thing to like, they must have been like, what the fuck is going on here?

Speaker 1 Yamamoto is a robot. And then you got this guy who hasn't had a hit in a month.
It's a home run against us to go ahead. Right.
And then the back-to-back plays with the cleat on the plate. And then the

Speaker 1 collision, Texas,

Speaker 1 Hernandez, like

Speaker 1 that was insane that

Speaker 1 that ball didn't drop. That ball drops 90 times out of 100.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know what the rankings are for me, but it's hard to think of a more dramatic game seven that just had like crazy plays.

Speaker 1 Like the collision play alone would have been, would have been enough to carry the craziness for the game because it's conceivable that just could have ball could have dropped and they win the World Series that way.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I'm positive that's never happened before. No, not like that.
No, that's never happened before.

Speaker 1 And then you think about it, like the Dodgers hit 204 in the series and they hit 203 last year against the Yankees. And they won both and they won last year convincingly.
And it's like,

Speaker 1 And but there were still a million great plays to talk about, even though they couldn't put the bat on the ball for, you know, 80% 80% of the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was the cool thing about game three, at least until when the next earnings was there were so many good defensive plays and basering plays.

Speaker 1 And, you know, it's just this higher level of the sport. And you start comparing your own team to it.
Like I was texting on my Red Sox thread.

Speaker 1 I was like, how many doesn't this make us feel like we're a million miles away from this Dodgers team? Like they have four starting pitchers that we don't have. You know, we have like no chance.

Speaker 1 We have no chance in a series like this.

Speaker 1 And, you know, some people were talking about how the Dodgers, well, they bought this, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, well, you know, Vlad did sign a $500 million contract.

Speaker 1 They're not exactly going against Hickory High here. Toronto, you know, Toronto is spending money too, and they were doing trade deadline stuff.
The Dodgers piece of this, though,

Speaker 1 back-to-back really matters to me, just as a sports fan and somebody who cares about this shit. I remember all the back-to-back teams, like the Yankees doing it.

Speaker 1 in 77 and 78 and the Reds doing it right before them. And then the Blue Jays did it.
We're all kind of pissed off because that was right when baseball was starting to change.

Speaker 1 And we're like, oh, these motherfuckers that kind of bought this a little bit. They had these hired guns.
That's not, they didn't grow these players themselves. These weren't the homegrown stars.

Speaker 1 And then the Yankees, obviously. But to do two in a row, I just feel like the stakes are there.
You must feel that way about the Cowboys. I know I feel that way about the Pats.

Speaker 1 To win two in a row, that second one's so much harder. Well, you won more than two in.
Oh, back in the day. Oh, I thought you meant looking forward.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Back-to-back is just like,

Speaker 1 it's just, it's a, you're, you're planting your flag on a different planet. Right.
And I think they sensed that and they understood it. And now they belong to this.

Speaker 1 Anyone can win one title, but you belong to a different kind of stratosphere, I think. Yeah, I agree.
And it's like, and you feel good for these Dodgers fans.

Speaker 1 And there's going to be a parade and it's like fireworks all over the place. It's like, yeah, this is pretty great.

Speaker 1 Then our producer, Jack, is like, hey, my seven-year-old has seen three championships since the year as well. I'm like, I'll get the hell out of here.
I don't want to hear from you. Enough.
Fuck off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fuck off. I'll hold a David Chang and tell you to fuck off.
No, we love Jack and his son, but it's enough chance. Yeah, yeah.
No, listen, it's been a great, great run for them.

Speaker 1 Kershaw somehow got his last one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll never forget seeing him come into that 18-in-game and how nervous everybody was. And when they showed him in the bullpen, I'm sure all the Dodger fans were like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 On top of it, it was a Saturday night Halloween, which isn't unusual for the sport.

Speaker 1 Halloween obviously isn't on

Speaker 1 Saturday every year, but sometimes it is and sometimes it overlaps with a great baseball game. But the combo, at least out here, it was like Halloween parties, the Dodgers are involved.

Speaker 1 This game's going late. This was like a water cooler moment.
I do feel like baseball is in a slightly different place in the mainstream than it was pre-COVID, right?

Speaker 1 Like something has shifted. The pitch clock, getting Otani and the Dodgers, having like big market teams that I think people know some of the players,

Speaker 1 the sport being enjoyable. I think, feel like kids, there's more kids kind of monitoring what's going on.

Speaker 1 The video game, I think, helps,

Speaker 1 but it just felt like, it felt like the sport we grew up with. I felt like the pitch clock is great because you still would have been at that 18-inning game.
That would have been a 40

Speaker 1 if there was no pitch clock. Greatest invention of our lifetime in sports, I think.
And yeah, and you know what's sad? You say it's in a different place.

Speaker 1 It's going to be in a much different place next year when they strike. So that's going to suck.

Speaker 1 Just please try to get your shit together and ride the wave here because there's nothing better than baseball when it's played at the level we saw this last week.

Speaker 1 I'm glad you brought that up because we've seen them do this before with some of the worst timing ever for

Speaker 1 just the two sides not being able to figure something out. I mean, the salaries are definitely gigantic.
And

Speaker 1 I know the RSNs have shifted and all that stuff, but if...

Speaker 1 If they damage whatever has been rebuilt here over the last five years, that would just be, I don't know if a lot of people would come back from that. Shame.
Shame on them.

Speaker 1 I i know 94 remember it took it took a couple years it was really like some baby steps it was like ripen

Speaker 1 um that some of the big market teams got back involved like the yankees and the red sock got pretty good again pedro went to the red socks the yankees got shitty until 97 until so so the steroids that like the steroids the homer guys yeah they needed that they needed that for sure but yeah i felt like the the braves yankees 96 that world series was good the cleveland Florida, even though it was two weird teams, that World Series was awesome.

Speaker 1 Right. And then we had the Bonds and Maguire and Sosa and all that stuff heading into the 90s, Red Sox versus Yankees.
Like we had a really, and then all of a sudden it was back.

Speaker 1 And it feels like it's back now. Yeah.
So to blow this would just be unconscionable. Don't take it away.
Don't do it. And by the way, next year is what? The Olympics? So, you know,

Speaker 1 people will find something else to watch. They better not screw this up.
They really better not.

Speaker 1 One other guy I wanted to shout really quickly: the catcher in the Dodgers, Will Smith, who caught all 18 innings in that game three and caught every inning of this series and then hits the game-winning homer in game seven.

Speaker 1 And I know Yamamoto had to be the MVP, but it was it almost feels like there should be an Intercontinental Champion MVP.

Speaker 1 There should be some sort of second thing that's awarded to somebody who just had a crazy impact on it. I think to watch him get up and and

Speaker 1 then crouch and get up and crouch for seven solid hours. I was like, this guy's like, they're going to have to send him to a fucking hospital in Germany to get him ready for game four.

Speaker 1 He never came out. It was unbelievable.
Taking short hops to the thighs and everything, chasing pitches and everything. Yeah, that was a tough gig.
I felt that way too.

Speaker 1 He should have shot up the MVP rankings after that game. And

Speaker 1 I mean, just the idea that just, it was just a few years ago. He was banned from the Academy Award.
Oh, no, that was a different one.

Speaker 1 Jeff Ross said it was, it's good to see Will Smith hitting something other than Chris Rock. I don't know.
There's a million jokes.

Speaker 1 And then Otani, who at some point during game three, it felt like this was going to be one of the watershed.

Speaker 1 months in pro sports history for an athlete. And then by the end of it, he was just kind of barely hanging out as a supported cast member.
You know, he got bailed out. He was out 3-0.

Speaker 1 Seemed like he had multiple chances to get those runs back and couldn't. And then his team picked him up.
But it was just, it was interesting to watch his week evolve.

Speaker 1 And then my guy Mookie was the other one who they had to move him back in the batting order because he was kind of killing him. But at the same time,

Speaker 1 it's just unbelievable to me that he plays shortstop. It's kind of went from center to right or right to center to second base to shortstop.
There's never been a career like this.

Speaker 1 You have to do it if you're a doctor. And then he gets to double play to end the series.
Just

Speaker 1 ear-to-ear smiles as as soon as he fielded the ball. Like, you did feel good for him.

Speaker 1 The one more thing I want to say about that 18-inning game, as great as that was, and that's the pinnacle of sports, 18 innings.

Speaker 1 And you see that guy, Klein, who hadn't thrown 60 pitches through college. And oh my God, he's just mowing these guys down.
Unbelievable. They're Dodgers' 10th pitcher.

Speaker 1 That, like, the biggest difference between my team and

Speaker 1 the team that's in there, they have pitcher number 10 is throwing 99 on the corner, right? Like, and the announcers are barely mentioning it.

Speaker 1 But how that could have gone from great to absurd if we saw your guy Mookie Betts pitching the 19th inning or the 20th inning? Like, that would have been ridiculous, right?

Speaker 1 Like, then you're like, ah, shit, this sucks. Like, you know, imagine if Ramondre Stevenson is the quarterback of the Patriots because the game went too long.
You know, so

Speaker 1 what do you do? Do you do like by the 18th inning, you put starting a guy on second base? I don't like, I don't feel like you can mess with the history of this.

Speaker 1 I did miss the Ghost Runner a little bit. A little bit.
Yeah, but

Speaker 1 I mean, sitting there just watching everybody go just zeros for three solid hours was, you know, the booches that take a good idea.

Speaker 1 Otani, maybe the fourth time he was intentionally walked, he can get second base. Like,

Speaker 1 right? But at least one more, one more base. You know, you're not allowed to throw the first so many times.
They could fudge that rule a little bit.

Speaker 1 What's the most nerve-wracking sport to you of all the sports? Is it baseball?

Speaker 1 I just think for like a situation like that, or is it hockey? No, it's it's and death hockey or is it like an extra innings baseball game with everything at stake?

Speaker 1 It's it's got to be hockey because there's no

Speaker 1 your team. Okay, if your team's up at bat, you're not going to get scored on in baseball, right? So you have that at least.
It's end-to-end rush and hockey.

Speaker 1 Like you could, you could be on a power play and get scored on in three seconds, you know, because it's back and forth and back and forth. So it has to be hockey.

Speaker 1 But the way baseball is shot and directed and the way they'll like, you know, a lot of times it's cold, the pitcher blowing out his hand, hand they go to the checkout for shots of the fans you cannot mention match that intensity because you have so much time in between pitches baseball also has that unbelievable piece where it's like bases loaded the guy throw it's like two and a count yeah and the announcer does the there's nowhere to put him and you're like yeah there really isn't there's nowhere to put him right right and uh and hockey i guess the version of that is the five on four the five on three power play and ot

Speaker 1 um i still feel like i've been in in the house for great games in every sport.

Speaker 1 I've never seen a game seven of the World Series in person, but I still think in football, when it's really, when it's like final two minutes and every play is moment, it just feels the most momentous and they're coming to the line and it's like third and eight.

Speaker 1 And it's like, if we get a stop here, we might actually win the Super Bowl. There's a different kind of energy with that.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, Neil O'Donnell was driving towards the end zone I was in in the Cowboys Steelers Super Bowl, and I remember thinking, I'm going to have a stroke.

Speaker 1 I'm like, you know, I'm 24 years old here, and I'm just going to stroke out here in the upper deck, and that's going to be it.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, there are situations where it does look like they're actually coming for you. I think the single most exciting thing that can happen to a fan in sports is the come-from-behind home run.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 1 Dave Henderson in the 1986 American League Championship Series when we were down 3-1 of the Angels, down three runs of the ninth inning, and then he hit a homer off of Donnie Moore to tie it.

Speaker 1 I just don't think that's the most excited I've ever been by anything that's happened. Like just a single play, just where you're, it's basically like you get a second,

Speaker 1 you get a second life like in a video game. Like somebody just gives you a quarter and you get to keep playing.
You're like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 The most famous one when I was a kid was the Bernie Carbo home run in the Carlton Fisk game. It took it from 6-3 to 6'6.

Speaker 1 But the home run in the ninth by Rojas, the classic, like, you just want him to get on base. You're not thinking he's going to go deep.
And then it's like, oh my God, that,

Speaker 1 oh, it's out. And it's just like, you black out, basically.
And you know why it's great in baseball? Because unlike any sport,

Speaker 1 there's no hiccup. It's not going to get called back for a holding, right? It's not going to get

Speaker 1 as long as it doesn't

Speaker 1 wrap around the foul pole. You don't have to worry about anything.
That's a home run. He's just got to touch the bases and you're good.

Speaker 1 You know, you have to worry about a penalty kick or offsides or anything bullshit. What's your greatest home run? What's your favorite one for the Mets? The one that made you blackout?

Speaker 1 I think I have to say Dykes are against the Astros in that playoff series. Yeah, that was pretty awesome.
But there were a few against you. Every fan base has one of them.
Well, the Blue Jays,

Speaker 1 I feel bad for the fans, but 32 years,

Speaker 1 they were playing that up. And I can't tell if that's long or maybe we're just old because I totally remember when they won in 92 and 93.
It's like, all right, they did go back to back in the 90s.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 this isn't the Cubs. Right.
Yeah. I just think

Speaker 1 they especially want to give it to America here. That also helped in 2025.
But yeah, 30 years is nothing. Try being a Cowboys fan.
Run

Speaker 1 about that. Same thing.
Well, it was almost the worst weekend in the history of Canada because the Bills almost blew the Chiefs game. I consider the Bills a Canadian team.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about Ariel Hawani, who comes on this pod a lot, who I'm friendly with.

Speaker 1 His three teams are the Knicks, the Bills,

Speaker 1 and the Blue Jays. Oh, wow.
So, yeah. So just in 2025, we were texting about this earlier.
He had the Bills loss in January.

Speaker 1 He had that fucking crazy Knicks Pacers series with that Halliburton game, which is the most improbable basketball loss, you know, maybe ever. Right.

Speaker 1 And then you have this Blue Jays

Speaker 1 going against the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 That's three horrible stomach punch losses in a row. That's a hundred seasons of no winning.
Yeah, that's no good. Yeah, he's basically like, I might not have gone to work this week.

Speaker 1 Do you remember after the Aaron Boone game? I left Jimmy's show the next day. Yeah.
I left at like one o'clock. I was, I honestly felt like physically ill.

Speaker 1 I couldn't, I, I couldn't, we were, I was supposed to write jokes. I wanted to like put my head in an oven.
We also were recording you clandestinely and you're like, fuck you.

Speaker 1 I'm going to quit this job if you play that on tv i did get mad yeah you were very upset um we'll take a break for the pod we'll keep going on the youtubes

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Speaker 1 NFL, where do you want to start? You want to start Bill's KC? I mean, I just start with me. The gambling gods just said, hey, enjoy your Yamamoto MVP winnings.
We're going to take it away from you.

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Effing. Packers, Lions,

Speaker 1 just the worst. Well, we were worried.
We did say the favorites had done really well the last couple of weeks, and we were a little worried about the parlays, teaser, train.

Speaker 1 There were a lot of obvious ones. And the ones that were the big letdowns today were the Packers and the Lions.
I got to say, I didn't have the Packers on the multi-view. Really? Oh, I didn't.

Speaker 1 I did the multi-view. Wow.
I didn't. I had six games going, and they were one of the two that didn't crack it.
And I didn't put it on until the fourth quarter. Good for you.

Speaker 1 I kept waiting for them to all of a sudden be up 20 to 6,

Speaker 1 and it just never happened.

Speaker 1 And obviously I saw that awful fourth and eight from the 13. I don't know.
Would Jared Jordan love just whipping it into the end zone? Was that the worst pass ever?

Speaker 1 Like, maybe, was it the worst pass ever? Really bad. Yeah.
They never punted. How do you score 15 points and not punt? They didn't punt.
They scored 13 points.

Speaker 1 The opposing quarterback had 102 yards passing and no touchdowns and an interception.

Speaker 1 And if I, if you would have told me that much, I would have taken a second mortgage out on the, on the family home here. But

Speaker 1 it didn't. But yeah, that fourth and eight, are we going to start with this game? Because I just like they, I think these coaches are getting a little ridiculous with not kicking.

Speaker 1 Like fourth and eight from the 13 with 11 minutes left you're down seven we did it on the fourth and 17 and it actually worked which I didn't understand that one either but that's just a lot of tremendous less that weren't 11 like 11 you have to score in twice anyway like I don't know even Atlanta passing on the field goal in your game was weird but even I know it worked but yeah I don't know man I don't know I don't know I don't know why you go for it there so much well the Packers I think the Packers have had the biggest swerve over the last week because everyone's feeling awesome about them after that that Pittsburgh game.

Speaker 1 They lose to Holman Carolinas, 13 and a half point favorites, which I'm going to say will be the biggest favorite to lose a game this year. Like, usually we get over 10 points.

Speaker 1 That happens, what, four or five, four times maybe all year. 13 and a half is like, that's like once every couple years.
It's the biggest since 2023, Titans, Miami. Yeah.
So I'm right. And Tyd,

Speaker 1 their largest upset loss since 1970. I don't know.
The funny thing is they've done this in the LaFleur era.

Speaker 1 They play three really shitty games each year and you don't know when they're going to happen. And this was obviously one of them.

Speaker 1 But then the other big thing is they, it seems like they lost Tucker Kraft for the year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He hurt his knee and they were doing the thing like, it's not good. Like, how's Tucker Kraft's name? Not good.

Speaker 1 When they open with the not good, or it's like, hey, we'll see.

Speaker 1 You know, MRI tomorrow. Keep your fingers crossed.
When they do the not good, that means it's bad. They think it's MCL and ACL.
So, yeah, that's bad for him. He's a fun player.

Speaker 1 Well, I thought he was their best and most reliable third-down guy, most reliable red zone guy. So that changes their destiny.
And then on the flip side, Carolina's in the playoff picture.

Speaker 1 Five and four. They're five and four.
They played New Orleans and Atlanta the next two weeks. Jesus.
So we could have the Carolina could be seven and four in two weeks.

Speaker 1 And the Bears could be seven and three.

Speaker 1 And those teams aren't good. Right.
Right.

Speaker 1 I mean, nobody thinks the Bears are good. Does anybody get offended by that? It's funny.

Speaker 1 When we went over who's going to be the seventh NFC team, we settled on the Niners and you put together that parlay. And it was like, what, plus 340? And then the Niners spanked the Giants.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, that's looking good. But I didn't realize.
I'm like, oh, shit, the Panthers are in the picture here. Look, what is going on? Is that really going to, oh, now the Bears are back in it.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 Let's go to the big game, the Buffalo, Kansas City game, where Josh Allen beats mahomes he's five and one in the regular season against mahomes but mahomes has won every playoff meeting i was trying to think of like a real life example of what it counts

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 like there is no example

Speaker 1 it's like you don't really get to brag about it but it's also not nothing And then you think about the four playoff wins they had.

Speaker 1 One of them was the 13 seconds game where Allen did everything you could possibly do to win the game.

Speaker 1 Is Is it a guy who wins a non-title match all the time and then in the wrestling and then wrestling? He goes up against magnificent Morocco and he just pins him in four minutes at the Metal Lands.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's repeatedly winning the non-title matches, not the actual pay-per-view matches.

Speaker 1 I do think watching that confirms something I've been saying all year is I just think Josh is slightly better than Mahomes for whatever reason right now. And I think the difference is the

Speaker 1 inside the five-yard line stuff and the fourth and short stuff, I think Allen is just the best guy in the league.

Speaker 1 There's the tush-push in the NFC. I get it.
But I just think Allen is getting into the end zone when you're inside the five. And Mahomes, they've never QB sneaked him since he got hurt that time.

Speaker 1 And over and over again, you see, you can actually do a goal line stand against them because you never have to worry about the QB sneak because they just won't do it.

Speaker 1 They're always trying to cheat around it or ram cream hunt in the middle or do these little quick outs. And I think it's easy to play a team when you know they're never going to QB sneak.

Speaker 1 The Raiders lost today today because Lawrence ended up QB sneaking, what, two times in a row to get it finally? Well, because they're the Raiders, but yes,

Speaker 1 those two. Yeah, I think like they have to be extra creative down by the goal line.

Speaker 1 They don't have, you're right, they don't have the luxury of what like the Bills do and some of these other, even like the Falcons could ram it in or Seattle, as we saw.

Speaker 1 But yeah, they have to do like the shovel pass to Kelsey or something weird over the middle because they want to.

Speaker 1 The guy in motion who does the quick 45 to the same Tyreek Hill play. Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Rashi Rice running it in. But yeah, I mean, what was he held to under 50% passing? Like, this is this Bills defense.

Speaker 1 I think we're at a good spot here with some of these defenses getting better, right? Like, we worried about the Bills defense.

Speaker 1 Who was the other terrible? Like, even the Steelers' defense stepped up. I didn't expect that to happen.
The Ravens. Why would you? They were terrible last week.
They gave him 20 straight passes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the Steelers, Bills, and Ravens might play defense now and could lead to some fun AFC games. games.
Well, you know, it's fun. KC is the eighth seed right now.
Wow. Are they missing that?

Speaker 1 I mentioned that because there's only seven playoff seeds in each conference. You don't think they'll change that? Goodell will change that.
I'll change that to eight.

Speaker 1 It'd be interesting if they changed that in like week 12. Hey, we have an idea.
16-team playoff brackets.

Speaker 1 I'd be remiss if I didn't mention, Sal. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Patriots with Tom Brady as the starter

Speaker 1 only started five and four twice in 2001 and 2002. In 2001, he didn't even start the first three games.
2002, they finished 9-7.

Speaker 1 And then after that, never again.

Speaker 1 Brady had 13 Patriot seasons of four losses or less. And after 2002, never finished worse than 11-5.
So everybody can take a big heaping sip of settle-down juice in the GOAT discussion. Tom Brady is

Speaker 1 still good. Yeah, we're still good.
We're still fine. Yeah.
Oh, Brady is not the GOAT? No. he's not the goat.
Oh, he's the goat. But we have to settle down.
Okay. He's the goat.
Settle down.

Speaker 1 I don't know what you're saying. Oh, I see.
To settle down. Oh, I see what you're saying.
Oh, he is the goat. Settle down.
All right. I didn't know if you were.

Speaker 1 You were putting or it's fine. Win a few more Super Bowls.
Maybe don't start the season five and four, and we can throw you in the goat. I see what you're saying.
Maybe beat Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 Comparing him to the current Patriots. I would totally misread that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 This one had a funny one, though. McDermott, they're up seven.
There's like 30 seconds left.

Speaker 1 Chiefs have no timeouts. They're on like the 36-yard line.

Speaker 1 And he decides to try to kick a field goal to go up 10, misses it. All of a sudden, the Chiefs do the ball back.
You punt? You punt there? Yeah, I punt.

Speaker 1 You're not going 90 yards in 20 seconds. It's not happening.
Just punt it out of bounds. It was 27 seconds left, fourth, and yeah.
Just put it out of bounds. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What do you want to give them the ball at the 40? Like, that's doable. And I can get a pass interference.
I can get Kelsey over the middle. I can down it.
Like,

Speaker 1 It's conceivable. I can get score in three plays.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah. Those just always go into the, right into the end zone, but I guess it wouldn't matter.

Speaker 1 From the 20 with the own 20 with 20 seconds left, you're right. I mean, we've seen Mahomes do it, but that was probably.
But the kick just missed.

Speaker 1 And thank God because we had teasers all over the place with

Speaker 1 Kelsey. Yeah, I had the Bills to win the game.
And then at halftime, I did

Speaker 1 the Chiefs money line. The Chiefs were

Speaker 1 winning by a point in the second half.

Speaker 1 We were doing a little chasing, a little Jamar chasing.

Speaker 1 Lions lost.

Speaker 1 Gennie, you mentioned that thing about the punting.

Speaker 1 So I thought the same thing. They're not going to do it because these teams always kick it in the end zone.

Speaker 1 What the fuck do these punters do all day in practice every day? Right. Like, how many things are there to practice? It's like, all right, we're in a practice where you punt it as far as you can.

Speaker 1 And then I thought we'd practice when you angle the punts and they don't go in the end zone. What are the other,

Speaker 1 I guess you're practicing a fake punt play every day? What do punters do all day? They can't just direct a punt into the, I feel like when we were kids, punters could do this routinely.

Speaker 1 Now nobody, it's like how nobody can bunt anymore in baseball. Right.
Well, bunting was taken out of, yeah, right, exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but yes, the coffin corner or at least kick it out out of the coffin corner.

Speaker 1 What are you doing? You're turning your body a little bit, right? And then aiming it not directly at the sideline. What is this? 25 yards downfield and down the sideline.

Speaker 1 So these guys, it's their only job. It's not like they're also doing five other things and bartending at night.
And it's like this is a real job where they make multiple millions a year.

Speaker 1 They don't know how to do a coffin corner punt. Kills their net, though.
Kills their net stats. And then when you go to renegotiate, it's not good.
I think it's like the,

Speaker 1 but now it doesn't matter, like the basketball player taking a three with two seconds left, full court goes against the stats.

Speaker 1 Well, Casey's the eighth seed. They're two behind Denver.
And here's what they have left, Sal, five and four. Bye week next week at Denver.

Speaker 1 Like a real chance to be five and five. Home for Indianapolis at Dallas.
Home Houston. Home Chargers at Tennessee.
Home Denver at Vegas. So they played Denver twice.
And they already have four losses.

Speaker 1 And I think their over-under for the season was 12.5, I'm going to say. Yeah.
I'm not doing this, though. They'll go under 12.5 for sure because they can't.

Speaker 1 But what does that feel like, dude? 11-6?

Speaker 1 They're still making the playoffs. But 10,000

Speaker 1 even makes it, right? Do they have odds here? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I got to look here now. This is bad.
It feels like there's two more losses in there.

Speaker 1 It's not going to be against the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. But what do you think they are to make the playoffs?

Speaker 1 I would say minus 240. Oh, you see, it's minus 650.
They're not going to let anybody steal money.

Speaker 1 Who's the seven seed? You said they were eighth.

Speaker 1 Well, Jacksonville's in there now. All right

Speaker 1 just saying i guess jacksonville does have the head-to-head right yeah they're five and three

Speaker 1 they've beaten kc right

Speaker 1 and they have rest of the way

Speaker 1 they played the titans twice

Speaker 1 that could be seven wins wow they played the jets that's eight

Speaker 1 they're at cardinals

Speaker 1 Next week they play the Texans, probably lost. But yeah, there's a path for them to get to 10.
Next week, they play both 10 and Davis Mills.

Speaker 1 They might be against Davis Mills next week. I would say he's 50-50, Stroud.

Speaker 1 Can we talk about that game? Yeah, let's do it. That was my worst loss of the day.

Speaker 1 I had the Texans. Stroud got concussed.

Speaker 1 And then apparently, D'Amico Ryan's got concussed with about two minutes left because 1-14.

Speaker 1 Boot and Rally Botnix did it again.

Speaker 1 He got hammered for the first two hours of the game. He passed out.
He threw up all over the American flag on the wall standing next to him and threw up all had diarrhea. They threw him in a shower.

Speaker 1 They gave him a cup of coffee. And Boot and Rally Bo came back out for the next hour.
Two touchdown drives. Ties the game.
And Houston gets the ball on their own 13 with a minute and 14 left.

Speaker 1 Tie game.

Speaker 1 Denver has two timeouts, and I'm sitting there going, okay,

Speaker 1 handoff, handoff,

Speaker 1 third handoff. Sure.
You punt it back. They have 10 seconds left.
Let's go to overtime. You have Davis Mills as your quarterback.
You've scored three points since he came into the game.

Speaker 1 You're not going 60 yards against Denver's defense. Can I add one more wrinkle?

Speaker 1 His back is to the end zone. The lighting in those Texas stadiums are so weird, and you get in the daylight right in his face.
And, you know, it's like a fragmented daylight.

Speaker 1 And so he's got to look into the sun while throwing downfield. Take it from there.
What are the three plays they do?

Speaker 1 Incomplete pass on first down to Christian Kirk.

Speaker 1 Just didn't even start the clock. It goes five seconds, stops.

Speaker 1 Jaden Higgins, four-yard pass, and Higgins, for some reason, goes out of bounds. So we really want you guys to have two timeouts.

Speaker 1 Third and six, incomplete pass. Putting it back to you.
55-yard punt returned for eight. And Denver has the ball with two timeouts, thinking with a minute left, they ran 14 14 seconds off the clock.

Speaker 1 And other than that, Brian Callahan, when he called, what was that thing when he called a timeout and they were going to kick the field goal?

Speaker 1 And then it was a delay of game after they called the timeout. That was good.
The delay of game after the timeout. That was the worst coaching moment of the year.

Speaker 1 I think this is the new worst coaching moment of the year because Houston needed the game. Like they, like, they don't have a lot of room for error now.

Speaker 1 And anyway, Denver wins the game. And it was the first time where I was like, are we sure D'Amico Ryans is a good coach?

Speaker 1 Because this was bad. You had Texas.
I'd be pissed too if I had the Texans, but I stayed away. I just like,

Speaker 1 whoever gets, I thought whoever got the 17 first wins. And that's kind of how it was.
But 34 minutes to 25 minutes, time of possession for Houston.

Speaker 1 Denver had one

Speaker 1 interception and one fumble. They had fewer total yards.
Houston was just three for 17 on third down, and it was because they had Davis Mills. Like they obviously won the game with C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud, I would think at this point. But just the same, roll the dice in overtime.
What the hell are you thinking there? He's home. Denver's special teams was awful.

Speaker 1 And Bo Nix was awful for two solid hours. There was like near the end of the second, I was going against him in our fantasy league.
Near the end of the second quarter, he was minus 1.85.

Speaker 1 That was his fantasy total. And in the fourth quarter, I think he was at five points

Speaker 1 and then finally rallied. But

Speaker 1 that's it for the Texans. I mean, I'm not ready to make them a cross-offs team, but right now they are, let's see, three and five.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They have

Speaker 1 the Titans only once. They still have a Bills game on Thursday night.
They still have at Colts, at Chiefs, at Chargers, and the Colts again. Right.

Speaker 1 It's a cross-off in pencil,

Speaker 1 right? Not in pen, but I think in pencil. They have to switch.
Because

Speaker 1 that team's not going seven and two down the team. They have to switch to Colts.
Yeah. I mean, they're not grabbing a wild card, right? So they have to steal that division somehow.

Speaker 1 Boy, and it's not looking good, especially if he doesn't start next week. But Denver,

Speaker 1 are they the full of shit champs of the world? Like this team? I think they're decent sometimes, but they beat Cam Ward. They beat Jake Browning.
They beat Justin Fields. They beat Jackson Dart.

Speaker 1 They beat Davis Mills. I mean,

Speaker 1 there's something to be said for turning it on in fourth quarters and kind of rising to the occasion. But I also think it's the team, like when we're doing over-unders next august yeah

Speaker 1 they would jump out to us as the fullest team right like look at this they went 12 and 5

Speaker 1 they were eight and one and you know last two minute games well we liked them this year because they were one and six and one score games last year and now

Speaker 1 they've gone too much the other way

Speaker 1 I was happy because I have a lot of Broncos over-unders. I was upset because I thought Texans, I just think if Stroud doesn't get hurt,

Speaker 1 I think this is a win. I don't know what happened.
One thing I will say, they blew a couple deep passes. They're vaunted secondary.

Speaker 1 Denver got behind them a couple of times, and that was the difference because they didn't really do anything else. And then the, speaking of AFC South teams, Steelers-Colts.

Speaker 1 So the Steelers have six turnovers, which means against the Colts and the Patriots, the Steelers forced 11 turnovers.

Speaker 1 So if you want to talk about full of shit teams, maybe start there with the short passes and just let's just get a turnover every 40 minutes against teams we're playing.

Speaker 1 I feel like it would make so much more sense if they played in New Orleans and were just like the official voodoo Steelers where we're like, oh, there's some actual voodoo shit going on.

Speaker 1 Rodgers injures his hand before the game. The line doesn't move, but then it does move.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Very weird. The Colts are up 7-0.
Steelers are doing nothing.

Speaker 1 Steelers punt.

Speaker 1 Punt bounces, hits the Colts kick punt returner and rolls right to a Steeler. And that was it.
You're like, oh, okay, here we go.

Speaker 1 Here, this is that, by the way, that happens three times a year. Yeah.
When the dumb kick returner just stamped for some reason, just is like, hey, there's the ball. It's right next to me.

Speaker 1 And gets hit by it.

Speaker 1 And renegade, it's over. Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 1 I don't, how much less do you think of Daniel Jones?

Speaker 1 I knew he was due for something like this, but and the team was.

Speaker 1 I'm still okay with him. I still would be very surprised if they blew that division.

Speaker 1 So they're outdoors. Minus 240.
They're playing the voodoo Steelers.

Speaker 1 Jones looked like 2024 Giants Jones. I mean, he was bad.
It wasn't just the turnovers. He was actually like just bad the whole game.

Speaker 1 Like he missed.

Speaker 1 He had pierce open on a deep one once that he's been hitting all year and overthrew it. And he just was not the guy from the first couple of months.
Um,

Speaker 1 I was rooting against them, even though I had money on them by uh like 11-15 for because I started thinking about the pats on the one seed.

Speaker 1 Like, really started thinking about it. Look at you.
Look at you. I got excited about it.
What a great

Speaker 1 indie, rest of the way, Atlanta, bye week, at KC, home Houston, at Jacksonville, at Seattle,

Speaker 1 San Francisco, Jacksonville, at Houston.

Speaker 1 So, Houston twice, and then at KC, at Seattle. So, they're seven and two.

Speaker 1 12 and 5 is conceivable. I don't think anything higher than that.
Yeah, I know. 13 and 4, 12 and 5, somewhere in there? Maybe 11, maybe 11.
But yeah, I don't, they can't blow that. Minus 240.

Speaker 1 I'm just trying to look at these other odds. I wouldn't take any other team to steal that division.
I would not either.

Speaker 1 Well, and then we have, well, we should talk about the Seahawks quickly because they just absolutely destroyed Washington.

Speaker 1 They're 6-2, could be 8-0.

Speaker 1 They were first in DVOA heading into this game, and this was the best game they played all year. Darnold's on a heater.

Speaker 1 You look at their schedule the rest of the way,

Speaker 1 their toughest road game is at Chargers in two weeks. Alt's not going to probably be playing in that.
At San Francisco to end the season or at Atlanta,

Speaker 1 it's a pretty cream puffy schedule. And I think there's a real case now for them to be the one seed.
Do they have one seed odds for them yet? They're very soft.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're not even favored to win the division. Yeah, they're plus 150.

Speaker 1 Plus 150 for division? For the division, yeah. I don't think they have.
I mean, they have. They don't have the one seed bet.
Yeah, they do. Oh, they do? They're plus 470 for the one seed.

Speaker 1 Man, they look great tonight. Rams are plus 380.
I think they're better than the Rams,

Speaker 1 personally.

Speaker 1 I think on a neutral field, I would pick the Seahawks. I don't know.
But is Washington a team like we should be? First of all, we should probably cross.

Speaker 1 I'm okay crossing them off, especially with, right? When that's our next cross-off. It's Mariota the rest of the year.
They're not going to get much better, right?

Speaker 1 They have an Angry Lions team, Broncos, Eagles in the next five weeks. They have to be a cross-off.

Speaker 1 I had two cross-offs for you, actually, because I think Arizona is a cross-off now. Oh, you don't even want to see them beat the Cowboys by three touchdowns? No, because I think the NFC West

Speaker 1 moving away from them like it has, I don't see a scenario where

Speaker 1 they climb back. We would basically have to have, they'd have to flip places with one of the three teams, and I don't see it.
Right.

Speaker 1 They'd have to make up three wins because we're going to have at least two from the NFC North.

Speaker 1 So I have for cross-offs, Jets, Browns, Tennessee, Miami, New Orleans, Vegas, Cleveland, the Giants,

Speaker 1 Arizona, and Washington.

Speaker 1 That's 10. Yeah, let's do it.
We're almost there. That's fair, right? We're heading into week 10.
We have 10 cross-offs. So it's 22 teams.
And how many teams for 16 spots? 26 spots. 14 spots.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 14 spots. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They look so damn good, Seattle. And the only good part of the game, really interesting, was Collinsworth.
Well, he was like, Darnold, you said he was on the heater.

Speaker 1 It was like 16 for 16, 17 for whatever he was. And

Speaker 1 Collinsworth circles the defensive line for Washington. And he's like, do you know how hard it is to have these monsters chasing you? He says,

Speaker 1 monsters. Monsters? It's like it's a pass rush variation.
But I'm like, all right, that's just a speech thing at this point.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They're so damn good.

Speaker 1 Darnold, that turned out to be the move of the year.

Speaker 1 We thought it was going to be a wash, and it was going to be an interesting argument over the course of the year, Darnold versus Gino. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we were like, oh, we'll be changing our minds on this one nine times. It's like, nope.

Speaker 1 I was talking about with someone else, and Darnold and Baker make so many teams look bad for passing on them and free agency, right? And just not, or not sticking with them.

Speaker 1 But imagine if those guys didn't pan out. We'd have two more teams with terrible quarterbacks.
This league would suck so bad.

Speaker 1 I had Seattle to win the division and Denver to win the division before the year.

Speaker 1 And the Pats to be a playoff team. Those are my three best ones.
And Miami to stink. I guess those are my four best ones.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I've had some bad ones, though.
I had Vegas to make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Not feeling great about that because they're really, really awful.

Speaker 1 We were both under on Washington. And

Speaker 1 yeah. I was honored to win the division.
That was my worst thing. But there's more to come.
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All right. Staying here on YouTube.
All right.

Speaker 1 You wanted to apologize. We, we had, we, we wished some luck from Baby Doll Dixon a couple weeks ago.
Today, you're just, you just have some apologies to hand up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just feel like a lot of people said, F you, you guys, you're talking too much shit for a week, a month, two months, whatever. I mean, I think J.J.
McCarthy's at the top of that list.

Speaker 1 We're talking about, is he even injured? Well, is he coming back? You know what? Doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 Hiding an ankle sprain. Yeah.
Wentz with a broken torso is better. And I'm going to, I think these are temporary apologies, right? I feel like we could take them back, right?

Speaker 1 Like you got to, you still have to pass the road test, but pretty damn good. Like if Caleb Williams had blown that game, I was going to say, you know what, J.J.

Speaker 1 McCarthy is the best quarterback in the NFC North. I take it all back.
So I apologize, J.J. McCarthy.
I was, I thought he was all over the place in that game.

Speaker 1 He was streaky in this, like basically streaky the way some guys are in a season. Right.
Over the course of four quarters. There was a couple of stretches where he looked awesome.

Speaker 1 And there were a couple other stretches where he looked like a rookie QB playing his third start, basically, like some ran out of bounds stupidly in one play.

Speaker 1 And, um, but for the most part, I thought he was, he was really solid. Like that was a great win, combined with the fact that Flores and his defense finally figured out Goff

Speaker 1 how to like bug him. And Goff's one of those where you know

Speaker 1 40 minutes in, if you have him in a teaser parlay, if the defense is hitting him a certain way and he starts fucking bounce passing those passes over the middle. You're like, oh my God, here we go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Flores dialed up a nice plan for Goff. I think both teams had five sacks, but the Vikings' five sacks were definitely more effective.

Speaker 1 Like the Lions couldn't muster more than 65 yards rushing, I don't think. And that just, that just screwed Goff up.
I know it ended up being a close game, but probably wasn't even.

Speaker 1 It was weird because they came out.

Speaker 1 Good drive, Laporta, Laporta, Laporta, touchdown. It was like, oh, here we go.
Yep. Lions,

Speaker 1 I can't wait to cross this one off.

Speaker 1 they only ran for 65 yards they were five for 17 on third down and uh yet again had another game where multiple guys you know either limped off the field or were helped off the field and

Speaker 1 they're five and three it was a team i really battled on whether i wanted to put them in the playoffs or not and i finally kind of begrudgingly got there i had them at like 10 and seven as a wild card But this has been kind of the uneven Lions season.

Speaker 1 I think all of us were worried about, right? Yeah, but I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 He got a lot of injuries on us. I also don't think I'll be betting against them much.
You know, there'll be a couple spots, I think, that where they're on the road, and this week's not one of them.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I still think top to bottom, I was surprised Campbell just didn't have them ready. He had like scored 88 points off of buys his last two years.
So I thought, like,

Speaker 1 like you said, they did come out scoring. But yeah, Flores was the MVP of that game.
That was a flash sale line. We talked about it last week.
It was,

Speaker 1 the line was, it felt like two and a half, three points higher than it should be. Right.
And they were dying for anybody to take the Vikings.

Speaker 1 And we were all like, no, we're actually going to parlay the Lions and put them in teases. And

Speaker 1 we got screwed. What's your next apology?

Speaker 1 I'm going to say Colston Loveland.

Speaker 1 Tight end for the Bears. You know, we were all like Tyler Warren, Tyler Warren, Tyler Warren.
The Bears are nuts for passing on Tyler Warren. Colston Loveland State saves the game, saves a pick.

Speaker 1 Like that, that was like one of the, I'm going to quit gambling picks. The Bears.

Speaker 1 Can we go over that? I just, you know. I actually took it off the TV because they did a pick six and they were up 48 to 27, 48 to 27 with three minutes left.

Speaker 1 And not realizing that they reviewed the pick six.

Speaker 1 I still don't understand how it wasn't a pick six. It was like the guy who, the intended receiver breathed on him or something.
I don't know what touched the interceptor there.

Speaker 1 That was ridiculous, but they called him down.

Speaker 1 We do this a lot with football football where we're like, we watch football every day, and the rules seem to just change depending on the situation.

Speaker 1 That's one where it's like, I watch football every week. He gathered the ball when he finally caught it and he got up and ran.
And they always call that a touchdown.

Speaker 1 And why are they bringing this back? So anyway, they have to pun. All of a sudden, Flacco scores.
I didn't even know about it till Hench texted us. Hench is texting, like, Flacco has 400.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yeah, who gives a shit? So what? Yeah, they're down six with the ball driving.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it would have been one of the worst losses of all time. Then it seemed like the Bears were going to win by two and not cover.
And then Loveland saves everybody. Amazing.

Speaker 1 And there's a still of Loveland like twisting in the air with three defenders around him.

Speaker 1 The caption is, he scored on this. Like he just bulldozed it.
Probably should have gone down at the two, like Gunter Stockton did for Georgia Saturday. And then they just kicked the field goal, right?

Speaker 1 But thank God he didn't. But by the way, I'm not going to, you know, Ben Johnson says don't,

Speaker 1 and you love those, right? The uh, press. Ben Johnson's my favorite.
I seek them out now. I'm like, what? Did he do a post-game?

Speaker 1 You're going to pay him to come to your house. I love it.

Speaker 1 He's like, this is what we do. It's like, this is what you do.
You pull a 41-27 lead with two minutes left. Yeah.
No, it says, don't apologize for a win, he tells them.

Speaker 1 Like, all right, maybe apologize for allowing 15 points in 49 seconds. Apologize to giving up 480 passing yards to a guy whose shoulder was so bad he threw a 40-yard Hail Mary.
Right.

Speaker 1 It is a slight apology. I love his things.

Speaker 1 But as a gambler, I don't want to get, I feel like I was taking shit. Everyone's like, oh, you got so lucky with that Bears game.
Like, it shouldn't have been close. Like, this is.
No, that's a win.

Speaker 1 That was, you should have. I won that by a three-touchdown.
It's like saying a guy born without any limbs wins a trip to Puerto Vallarta and the prices rise. Like, oh, you're so lucky.
Like, no.

Speaker 1 That's so much bullshit going on before. The kickoff return for a touchdown, the block field goal, the on-site kick recovery, 15 points in less than a minute.

Speaker 1 The interception, like you said, for a touchdown i was called back all that wasn't very lucky so

Speaker 1 eat it i'm taking that win swift's replacement was awesome i have him in our ringer fantasy league yeah where'd you that guy if if you didn't watch football all year or you were in a coma or you were like in outer space and just landed and watched these games as your first games of the year right you would think that he was like jonathan taylor like he was incredible He was over and over again just doing shit.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that's why I turned it off. I'm like, he's just going to, he's running for seven yards a clip and they just need to kill the clock.
And then Ben Johnson gave him a game ball. Oh, he did.
Okay, good.

Speaker 1 Yo, man, I love everybody in this room, man. It's a great win.
We got to keep it going. They all said the same things.
It's unbelievable. It's good.

Speaker 1 Nobody's ever like, nobody ever gets like, I knew I was better than DeAndre Swift. I've been telling all you motherfuckers all year.

Speaker 1 This is my team.

Speaker 1 Well, the other locker room that was different, like Jamar Chase and Chase Brown going off on the defense,

Speaker 1 I kind of like it. I kind of like it.
I really do. It's in the running for the worst defense I've ever seen.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's now many, many games. Ripping off 10-yard plays over and over again.
I had Caleb in fantasy, who had 40.5 points in our league that we care about. That's nice.

Speaker 1 Montegal had 198 total yards. The Bears ran for 283.

Speaker 1 Flacco at 470 for four Ts.

Speaker 1 I think the Bengals are the most entertaining team in the league now. Like, if they can play another shitty team, it's going to be a 40-37.

Speaker 1 Should they play the Cowboys leading up to the Super Bowl? Like, the morning of the Super Bowl. Like a Saturday game? Oh, yeah.
The morning of. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Make it like a $100 million game.

Speaker 1 Get Netflix to do it.

Speaker 1 Oh, more apologies. Who do you have next?

Speaker 1 Let's see. Who else do I have?

Speaker 1 Oh, Diddy. I mean, he's going to be out of jail soon.
That's great. How did he do it? We'll never doubt him again.

Speaker 1 What a legend. Oh, you you know what? This is dumb of me.
I'm going to apologize to YouTube TV. I don't know why I didn't know you could customize the four box.

Speaker 1 Why didn't I, I'm sitting there like a forensic scientist in a lab trying to match up screens. You didn't know you could just customize it.
I didn't know the thing. Oh, my God.
That's all I do.

Speaker 1 This is great. This is unbelievable.
This is a game changer. And I apologize for anything I've said to YouTube TV.

Speaker 1 I've gotten the point where I like, for good luck, putting the pats in the bottom left. Oh, really?

Speaker 1 So I'll just, I'll keep moving the multi-views, like trying to do it until i finally get the pats on the bottom left and then that's i'm an idiot bad job by me i don't know why i i did that and um i'll apologize

Speaker 1 can i do an apology yeah go ahead yeah i'd like to apologize to mike tomlin um really

Speaker 1 two weeks in a row betting against him

Speaker 1 at home in pittsburgh as an as an underdog um

Speaker 1 i should have known I should have known he was going to do all the dumb

Speaker 1 dumb stealer shit that they do all the time.

Speaker 1 like i just i should have known it was it looked too easy daniel jones on grass this was like the exact type of situation tomla loves they were just going to get six turnovers out of nowhere i just should have known he's he's just this is who he is he's going to be this guy until he's like 70.

Speaker 1 Just winning game. They're always going to go 9-8 or 10 and 7.
I don't know why I went under with them. It doesn't matter who's on the team.
They're going to have a 42-year-old QB.

Speaker 1 They can have a defense that gives up 20 straight passes the week before. They're always going to be fine.
They're always going to go 9 and 8 or 10 and 7. Well, 9-8 was still under, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 Wasn't it 9.5? No, they were 8.5 this year. Oh, right.
That's right. If you wanted to go ahead.
They still went under. All right.
What's your last apology? One more. I just have

Speaker 1 nerd clusters. They're fantastic.
I laughed at them. I'm like, you kids are wasting your time with these nerd clusters.
They're all of a sudden. Have you had them?

Speaker 1 They're my favorite non-chocolate candy now. They've grown on me.
They literally are. Is that what Brad threw on our ribs? He just did regular nerds, but they have these clusters now.

Speaker 1 It's like in a gummy. You haven't had this? You're not living right.
You're just

Speaker 1 unhealthy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course it's unhealthy. Look at me.
Okay. Boom.
We can give you a little bit of a bunch of people. I've been healthy.

Speaker 1 Been on a Kit Kat run. Oh, that's your thing? Kit Kats are really good.
Well, my wife bought Halloween candy and bought the bigger Kit Kats. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can I tell you something? I think bigger Kit Kats are so much better than the smaller ones. And I think it has to be.
So much better. I think they make it differently.
They must.

Speaker 1 I think the ratio of whatever is. There's more chocolate in the bigger ones.
On the big ones. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm with you.
Okay, good.

Speaker 1 Pats Falcons. Pats win.
Don't cover. All the Pats fans were worried about this game.
And yet the Pats were up 21-7, driving before halftime.

Speaker 1 At midfield, it was like 25 seconds left. It felt like

Speaker 1 24-7 minimum. And then May gets sacked, fumbled.
Falcons come back down. Didn't even get sacked.
It was such a wuss play. Just gave them a

Speaker 1 almost like a

Speaker 1 guy. He's not that good.
But go ahead. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's on pace for 4,400 yards and 34 TDs and eight picks and breaking the completion record.

Speaker 1 Completion percentage record. He actually would have the record all time in the history of the NFL right now.

Speaker 1 I just can't believe this. I can't, I really can't believe we're doing this like years later.
Like you, you should have had to suffer like a Cleveland Brown. I did suffer.

Speaker 1 We suffered for half a decade. What do you want for that? Please, please.
Half a decade, and then you should have been able, you should have stayed with Mac Jones.

Speaker 1 Like, you shouldn't go half a decade and now have,

Speaker 1 you know, Junior GOAT here. This is so stupid.
Well, he got sacked 12 times in two weeks

Speaker 1 and was under a real duress. And there's some issues with this Pats team, which we've known, but they are seven and two.

Speaker 1 They are going to, I think, be a playoff team just because of their schedule. And they do have their trade deadline coming up with like $48 million under the cap.
They need a pass rusher.

Speaker 1 They need another receiver. The game flipped today, not because of that fumble, but because Booty got hurt.
And all of a sudden, the Pats had nobody getting open. Thigs is still like on a snap count.

Speaker 1 So it's like Pop Douglas, it's Kyle Williams, the rookie receiver, who every time May throws to him, either Williams gets crossed up with May or vice versa. He's never in the right spot.

Speaker 1 And basically, they're just throwing the tight ends and throwing swing passes. I thought they were really lucky to win the game.
Drake London was killing them.

Speaker 1 It was the worst Gonzalez has looked all season.

Speaker 1 Drake London was dominant. Very tough to cover that guy.

Speaker 1 They shut down Bijan.

Speaker 1 I thought Penix was really up and down, but it came down and they missed an extra point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you get to play all the bad teams with all the bad coaches, all the bad quarterbacks, and all the bad kickers. So it's

Speaker 1 hard to lose. And you're going to have A.J.
Brown against Tampa next week. I don't think it'll be A.J.
Brown, but I am looking at those Dolphins guys.

Speaker 1 That Jalen Phillips, Hendrickson would be great. The Bengals lost again.

Speaker 1 I don't think the Raiders will trade Max Crosby. Nah.

Speaker 1 But look at you. The rich get richer here with this team.
Do you think Vrabel, a 2-1 for Coach of the Year, is a better bet than maybe for MVP?

Speaker 1 Because he's sneaking up there.

Speaker 1 It's Steichen. It's either Vrabel or Steichen, right? Yeah.
So that's who you're going to be. If you come down to who has a better record, that's who wins Coach of the Year.

Speaker 1 I think if you win the division and, you know, are well,

Speaker 1 I don't know i this is some schedule i had very bullet plus 750. you do that's good from before the year

Speaker 1 i picked that in our futures draft too oh no it's one more thing i'm gonna lose terrific

Speaker 1 you had some good ones in the future i forgot who i had yeah i had one

Speaker 1 good ones

Speaker 1 you know i think the pats are missing a couple

Speaker 1 i think they have a real chance to do something in January and maybe win a playoff game or two, but they're the offensive line is becoming real concerning.

Speaker 1 Will Campbell got worked a couple of times. Like he got just shoved backwards into May a couple of times, which I have not.
I don't remember seeing that before.

Speaker 1 They never remonded it either. Quickly, do we care about Fortnite Niners Giants, Dayball being first coach fired? Probably not.
No,

Speaker 1 we just need to be smarter about some stuff. Like we need to start respecting our cross-off teams and treating them as cross-off teams.

Speaker 1 And when you could bet against them getting two and a half points, just go for it, especially since San Francisco is one of our playoff teams. Like, how do we think this is all going to work out?

Speaker 1 If we're not. How do you bet the Niners when you don't even know who's playing for them? I know.
I know. But the Giants had worse injuries, it turns out.

Speaker 1 Well, now San Francisco lost someone else, too. So, but yeah, they heard us loud and clear about being the seven seed, and they just demolished that team.
Jags Raiders, Jags win, don't cover.

Speaker 1 They win in OT. They win because they score in overtime.

Speaker 1 Another weird overtime thing: they take like seven minutes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Even though they basically took the kickoff almost to midfield.

Speaker 1 Then they were just doing 40 seconds to play. They go down in the red zone.
Nothing has been more exciting this year than watching the Jaguars execute plays inside the 10-yard line.

Speaker 1 They had a pick in the end zone in the first half. They actually scored.

Speaker 1 Raiders come back down, they score, but they don't get the two-point because instead of throwing to Brock Bowers, who had 12 catches, 127 yards, and three TDs and was running a mock, they're like, no, no, no, we're going to have Gino try to hit Tyler Lockett over the defensive line.

Speaker 1 There's no way this will get tipped. Yeah.
And they lose. We knew we were on a text chain, like, this is 30, 29.
As the Raiders got the ball, like, no question. They're all overthinking.

Speaker 1 You said it was weird overtime. I thought that was the perfect.
That is exactly how it should be. One team gets it, goes six or seven minutes, scores.

Speaker 1 The other team has a shot, has three or four minutes, scores, and goes. I would go 12 minutes.
I love that.

Speaker 1 No, I just think they've worked out one possession each that said i thought this game should not have been in the late window it should have been in a a cricket stadium in in prague at 3 a.m pacific time

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 i have three questions coming in this game yeah would you like a rule amend addendum that if you score the first td in overtime the first team to have the ball they score a touchdown if they go for two and get it the game's over oh

Speaker 1 no i still want both teams touching the ball. It's not fair.
The defenses are exhausted. It's not fair.
One team wins a coin toss and the other team doesn't get it. But I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 Whatever avoids a tie is best. Here's my next question.
Is Pete Carroll the new clapper or is he the new Joe Biden? Oh, because it's one or the other. Because he's on the sideline.

Speaker 1 He's not really, it doesn't seem like he's doing that much coaching.

Speaker 1 His mouth's kind of open

Speaker 1 and he's just doing this like he is chewing gum or he's just kind of has that vacant look.

Speaker 1 Chews come hard. It's a lot of clapping.
A lot of clapping.

Speaker 1 Clapper 2.0. I mean, he's sitting there watching 68-yard field goals, and he must be like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 This is not my day and age, my game here. I mean, you're former campaigns.

Speaker 1 It does speak to how well-liked Pete Carroll was and how disliked Bill Belichick is, that they're basically in the same situation in college and pros.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, if he doesn't say anything about Carroll, I think it might be a little different story. But they covered.
I'm proud of them. Did you, and I'll say this.

Speaker 1 Bowers makes them watchable. Like, has a tight end ever awesome? But has a tight end ever made an unwatchable team watchable? Just a tight end? I don't remember.
I have him in all my fantasy leagues.

Speaker 1 He was awesome against the Pats. He got hurt.
They played him hurt for like three weeks, then stopped playing him. Right.
And now he's like great again. Like, it was like

Speaker 1 whatever injury he had.

Speaker 1 He's fine. He was like an absolute beast.
Right. And they were throwing it to him, throwing it to him, throwing it to him to the point where we're like, hey, man,

Speaker 1 don't get this guy hurt again. Like, 12 catches is enough.
Like, how many? What is he going to have? 17? Was Russ Francis your guy? Like, with the Patriots, Russ Francis. I love the Patriots.

Speaker 1 But the Patriots were bad, but you watched because of Russ Francis. Like, I'm trying to figure out how to do it.
We were good. We were good in 76 all the way through.

Speaker 1 We were favored to win the AFC every year, basically.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We had Russ Francis. We had

Speaker 1 Stanley Morgan and Daryl Stingley and

Speaker 1 the Raiders and the Steelers. It was a year where we were favored to win the AFC.
Yeah, 2009. No, 1978, maybe? Really? One of those years.
Yeah, we were like... Like when Denver won?

Speaker 1 We almost made the Super Bowl in 76. We got robbed by the, in the Raiders game.
We were good. All right.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think of another tight end that made a team great that wasn't not great, but watchable.

Speaker 1 I'll come off with it. Kellen Winslow.
That team was good, though. Gonzalez.
Good team.

Speaker 1 Ben Coates.

Speaker 1 Maybe. One more thing from that game.
68-yard field goal. We've talked about this before.

Speaker 1 Not even a blip.

Speaker 1 I don't even think we made Sports Center that somebody broke the record by two yards. So

Speaker 1 I think 75 yards has to be the number that people would actually be impressed by at this point. Interesting.
68, it's bouncing off people. 70, I don't even think people would care.

Speaker 1 75, we're like, oh, wow, that's long.

Speaker 1 75. Yeah, I want this to go up the record one per year for the rest of my life.
And I want to. 101 yards.
101. I'm not going another 33 years.
No. But if it got, if I got another 15 seconds.

Speaker 1 I had a few nerd clusters.

Speaker 1 84-yard field goal is what I want to see. Yeah, but you're right.
Like, there were only three games played in that late window. And a guy kicked a 68-yard field goal.

Speaker 1 And I was like, all right, well, if we get to it, we get to it. There should never be less than four games in the late window.
Right. Amen.
They should have have moved the Houston game.

Speaker 1 I thought the Colts Steelers would move. The Colts Steelers.
But they wanted so much too many. They wanted all the eyes, the CBS eyes on Buffalo

Speaker 1 Casey.

Speaker 1 Rams, Saints, nothing to report here except Stafford is the MVP candidate of the week. That'll be a story to move.
Stafford. Why isn't he the MVP? Last year was Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 This week will be Stafford. Plus 500.
It's moving up. Chargers, Titans, Herbert, eight picks this year and a couple of really bad ones.

Speaker 1 It's like year five for him.

Speaker 1 He just doesn't care. I don't think he is just slinging it.
It's spread slinging. It's farbish, I think.
I got to be honest, I didn't have this on.

Speaker 1 This is the one that kicked

Speaker 1 until it got close to the spread at the end. I had this on instead of the Packering game.

Speaker 1 Chargers, to be a sneaky fall out of the playoffs team, right now they're six and three. There's three, seven and two teams.

Speaker 1 Chargers are six and three. Buffalo is six and two.

Speaker 1 Chargers rest of the way. Pittsburgh at home.

Speaker 1 Their road games at Jacksonville, at KC,

Speaker 1 at Dallas, at Denver. And they also have Philly and Houston

Speaker 1 in L.A.

Speaker 1 And if their offensive line is going to look like it did in the second half of the game and how it's looked without Joe Walt, I think this is a team that could drop out. You don't think that

Speaker 1 go from six and three to nine and eight seems conceivable. Really? All right.
So let's see. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Three more wins here. Fandall agrees with you.
Minus 225. So

Speaker 1 they're right there.

Speaker 1 10 wins, we think?

Speaker 1 Yeah. That has to be AFC.
You can't get in with nine, I don't think. I think it has to be 10.
No, I don't think nine.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I think four wins is going to be hard for them.

Speaker 1 They're done with the ring.

Speaker 1 KC is going to need the game. Definitely.
When they play Denver in

Speaker 1 week 18, that might be Denver playing for like the one seed. Like, they're going to give a shit about that.

Speaker 1 Philly, so it'll come down to Pittsburgh. If they lose to Pittsburgh next week, I think they're Sunday night.

Speaker 1 We're going to go over this in a second, but it's Sunday night and it's going to be 80% Steelers fans. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. One more break for the pod.

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Get going on YouTube. Guest Alliance, week 10.
I'm up 6-3.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're up 6-3.

Speaker 1 Bye-weeks, Cincinnati. They need time to figure out a defensive plan.
If they're ever going to trade Trey Hendrickson, this is the week, right?

Speaker 1 He doesn't have a long-term contract.

Speaker 1 Team's going nowhere. How are you going to pay him when you already paid your receivers and borough?

Speaker 1 Why not try to get like a second or a third firm?

Speaker 1 No doubt. Or maybe he'll just drive off a cliff and take the easy way out.

Speaker 1 Poor guy.

Speaker 1 Cincy, Tennessee, Casey, and your team, Dallas.

Speaker 1 You get a week off from not watching them. So excited.
Thursday night.

Speaker 1 Broncos home for the Las Vegas Raiders. The Broncos are almost definitely going to be 8-2 on Thursday night.

Speaker 1 I had Broncos by 9.

Speaker 1 I had 10.5, and it's 9.5. Oh, you get that shit.
I got excited for a second because I can't do math.

Speaker 1 I know what you're thinking.

Speaker 1 Can they just rest Brock Bowers for that game for fantasy reasons? Or if they're down 10, just not play him anymore. I need Brock Bowers in week 15 and 16.
Don't get hurt in this game, Brock Bowers.

Speaker 1 Take it easy. Geno's going to take it easy.
We know that.

Speaker 1 Geno's just doesn't have it anymore.

Speaker 1 There's just basic passes like over the middle where he had one pass in the second half. The guy's cutting across the middle.

Speaker 1 And if he leads him a little, I think it would have been a touchdown, but he throws it behind. The guy has to fall down to catch it.
And it's just a lot of those. He just doesn't have it anymore.

Speaker 1 It's too bad.

Speaker 1 Germany game:

Speaker 1 Colts Falcons. Pretty good game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you know, I feel like that's gonna be. Do you like Germany more than England? That's my takeaway from that.
I think,

Speaker 1 hey, we didn't realize these teams were going to be decent at this point. We'd like to

Speaker 1 take a rain check. We'll send you something else.
Hey, the Jets are playing the Browns. We'll send you that instead.

Speaker 1 This could start another World War. And then it's like, what the hell? Germany.

Speaker 1 Colts,

Speaker 1 neutral field. I have in Vegas zone five and a half over the Falcons.
Oh, is this going to be one of these days? I had five. It's six and a half.
Ooh.

Speaker 1 So what does that mean if it was in Indianapolis? Would be Colts by eight? Well, what was your team? Your team opened at five and a half at home, right?

Speaker 1 The Colts are... Colts are, right? It went down to four and a half, but the Colts are power ranked a couple points better than Patriots.
I guess that makes sense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if we were playing the Falcons on a neutral field, that would have been like three or three and a half, right? Right. Yeah, I think that's fair.

Speaker 1 You just don't know what Atlanta team's ever going to show up here.

Speaker 1 Sunday's marquee game.

Speaker 1 We did it, Sal. We're back.
You made it. Patriots are in the Sunday marquee game.
No argument. They're sending Nansen Romo

Speaker 1 and Tracy Woodson.

Speaker 1 Romo's going to do the okay, Jim. Here we go.
Here we go, Jim.

Speaker 1 Drink, babe.

Speaker 1 How did he take it? Do you think he had to pay the Howard Letterman's estate? Is Howard Letterman still alive for that? Okay, Jim.

Speaker 1 I have Larry Holmes four rows to two.

Speaker 1 I loved Harold Letterman. Oh, he's great.

Speaker 1 I have this as a hardcore Tic-Tac game. Bucks minus one and a half at home against the New England Patriots.
Good. I get this one from you.
I said three. It is two and a half.

Speaker 1 Oh, look how insulted you are.

Speaker 1 Well, so how healthy are the Bucks going to be?

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, you're playing them at their best spot, right? That's off a buy, right? Yeah, they were off the same.

Speaker 1 I don't know how healthy.

Speaker 1 This guillotine league that we're in, which I've really enjoyed. It's the best.

Speaker 1 Everyone do a guillotine league. It's so much better.
I just want to say it's like the scramble scramble you have to make to add drop players every week.

Speaker 1 Whereas in your other leagues, there's no players on the waiver wire. Yeah, because every time somebody gets voted out,

Speaker 1 you get their players. That's where you get to beat.
It's a drinking frenzy, right?

Speaker 1 So I tried to gamble this year and tried to not spend a lot of our $1,000 budget on free agents and just tried to patch it together week after week, hoping if we could get to like week 10, I'd have more money than everybody else.

Speaker 1 And today I had Caleb Williams, who had 38.7 points and single-handedly carried me. I have Bucky Irving, Mayfield, and Igbuka on the bench, and I have more money than everyone else.

Speaker 1 I'm starting to get ideas. And

Speaker 1 I might have more bench players, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
That's pretty cool. I'm starting to get ideas.
Good. I'm going to be a two-year-old.
They light up your Patriots next week. You'll be happy.

Speaker 1 Well, Bucky Irving, I think, will be back, right? They were saying it looks decent that he's back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I have a bunch of leagues too. This is a tough.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the Pats have won a few in a row here. You could lose one here.
What is it? Six in a row and six in a row against the spread? Just enough. It's enough.
Let the other kids take it.

Speaker 1 I do think they're going to make a trade. I really do.
I think they're going to add somebody important.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to add an impact guy. I think the AFC is wide open and they know what they need.
They need a pass rusher. If they got an awesome linebacker, probably not conceivable.

Speaker 1 But yeah, offensive line, everybody's looking for that, whatever.

Speaker 1 Pass rusher and extra receiver they need. It's going to be Vita Vea taken right off the Tampa roster, thrown right in.
I'd take it. Head to head Sunday.

Speaker 1 Watchables, I only got one.

Speaker 1 Rams at San Francisco.

Speaker 1 I have the Rams favored by three points. Yeah, I said one and a half.
It is, it's three exactly. No, it's three and a half, but you get it.
Three and a half it went to. Probably Purdy for this?

Speaker 1 I mean, you keep saying that. Probably every Sunday night.
We've said probably Purdy, but

Speaker 1 Mac Jones looked good today. I don't want him to come back.
No, no, no. He looked okay.

Speaker 1 Did these teams play already? Yeah, they played that Thursday night game, right? Oh, yeah, they beat him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So bigger game for the Rams because they need to split this with the Niners or else.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That's our last watchable. Sorry, Sal.
Is that really it? We have four fairly watchables.

Speaker 1 Ravens at Minnesota. Yeah, that was the close.
that's would you put that in a watchable I guess they should be in a watchable at this point it is Vikings play good enough yeah I think that's all four

Speaker 1 I have uh the Ravens favored in that game

Speaker 1 by

Speaker 1 one and a half oh I said four and a half it is three and a half

Speaker 1 really

Speaker 1 Yeah, really. So we're just all in on the Ravens as a contender again, even though they're

Speaker 1 three and five, really, because they look good against miami dolphins who fired their gm the next day and should have already fired their coach and benched their quarterback we're just back i think it's two

Speaker 1 god it wasn't against good teams but they're deep it was all about the defense right is this team going to allow 40 a game Did you see the montage of all the terrible Tua passes?

Speaker 1 I actually watched that on ESPN the next day. I was having coffee.
They showed a montage of the all-22 of Tua just missing guys. It was like, it was like six passes.
He's great.

Speaker 1 he's really good no and we might be on he'll be on good morning football in two years

Speaker 1 maybe that's one of the guys you trade for you got a lot of money

Speaker 1 good backup

Speaker 1 uh fairly watchables three then texans home for the jaguars i would have had this a watchable but i'm i'm gonna guess cj stroud doesn't play in this game

Speaker 1 right i i can't concussion is usually you get scratched for a week right

Speaker 1 so knowing that, I'm going to say Texans by two and a half at home against the Jaguars. All right.
I eased this one. I said one.
It's one and a half. Okay.

Speaker 1 That'll move around a bunch, though. Right.

Speaker 1 I thought ETN was really good today. Yeah.
He did everything but score. I haven't been fans of that.
He really

Speaker 1 had a huge impact on that game. Michael, Brian Thomas got hurt.

Speaker 1 Brian Thomas had an awesome play over the middle, ran for 40 yards and got hurt.

Speaker 1 It was just when it was like, here he comes. He's back.

Speaker 1 Seahawks home for the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 I did these guesses in the afternoon and I guess Seahawks by six and a half. I'm bumping that to seven.

Speaker 1 Seahawks by seven.

Speaker 1 It's six and a half. All right.

Speaker 1 I had eight. Now you win it.

Speaker 1 I had eight. I thought that should be higher.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Arizona, short week. Going to Seattle.
So you're playing them tomorrow, and there's a weird Brissette Kyler Murray thing happening.

Speaker 1 Where Kyler Murray's available, but not starting. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like their seasons on the line.

Speaker 1 You know, Kyler Murray is 9-0 at ATT Stadium. He won like a schoolboy tournament there, and he won this high school thing.
I'm aware. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It seems like they don't want him to play because if he does well, then they're kind of stuck with him for the rest of the year because he played well in this Monday Night Football game in Dallas.

Speaker 1 Interesting. So they would rather play Brissette, maybe try to win anyway, but then they don't have this Kyler thing.
I just think it's weird if he's available to play and you're not playing him.

Speaker 1 Like if Drake May was available to play, we would play Drake May. Right.

Speaker 1 I think it's exactly that. Like Brissette, anyone should look good, right? Going to Kyler Murray anymore.
It's a jungle against the Cowboys defense. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Brissette almost beat the Colts in Indy.
So might not be that bad.

Speaker 1 Third watch, fairly watchable. This might be a poop if Daniels is out.
Um, yeah, Lions Washington. I got to change my pick on this, yeah.

Speaker 1 Even though it's it's in Washington, how many points am I allowed to bump it up? Three?

Speaker 1 I'll bump mine three, you bump yours three. All right, I had minus six for the Lions, so I'll bump it to minus nine.

Speaker 1 Uh, plus nine, yeah, it's uh, you get it. Shit, it's eight and a half.
I said six and a half. That was dumb, dumb

Speaker 1 five to three. You're up, teaser.
Oh, you love Detroit,

Speaker 1 Detroit, and Denver so far. Let's keep going.
You'll find another

Speaker 1 Denver.

Speaker 1 Oh, I do like those two.

Speaker 1 Well, they're not going to screw us two weeks in a row. Come on.
Oh, that does look Broncos over the Raiders just to win by three, and then the Lions to win by total. Watch that.
That's great.

Speaker 1 There's another one for you. Oh, I see it here in the Poop Fecta list.
You see it? Bills, Dolphins. That's the one.

Speaker 1 Bills in Miami.

Speaker 1 DJ Mikey Mack, staying for the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 DJ.

Speaker 1 He's going to be spinning his records for seven more weeks here.

Speaker 1 I have Bills by nine over the Dolphins. I had nine and a half.
I got this exactly. Nine and a half, it is.

Speaker 1 So there you go. Who screws that up? Bills just to beat Miami.
Detroit just to beat Washington. Is it wrong that I'm still scared of Miami after that Falcons game?

Speaker 1 Extended rest. They're home.
They played them tough when they played on that Thursday night, right? They covered. Yeah.
Yeah. You shouldn't be scared.

Speaker 1 I got to ask you: how many wins did the Dolphins end up with?

Speaker 1 Because I may or may not have multiple win total unders at six and a half, and four and a half and three and a half on them for the season. Oh, man.
Right now, they have two,

Speaker 1 right? They played the Bills, so that's a loss.

Speaker 1 They play the Commanders in Madrid,

Speaker 1 Saints home, at Jets, at Steelers. Bengals home.
Bucks at Patriots.

Speaker 1 Six seems improbable, right? Jets and Bengals. They have to split that for you to sweep four.
Four and 13. Four and 13.
I win, I think, every bet I made except one that was. Good for you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't get beat by the Jets or get beat by the Jets. Yeah.
At Pat's week 18.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Two seed that doesn't care. Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 I'll be able to hedge it.

Speaker 1 All right. Poop facto.

Speaker 1 Bears home for the Giants.

Speaker 1 We don't apologize for wins.

Speaker 1 We're 3-1 in the second quarter.

Speaker 1 Thanks, coach. I wasn't planning on it.

Speaker 1 You didn't apologize to the dry cleaner. Who is he supposed to apologize to? He might need a sedative before those speeches.
He's like too jacked up. He gets too fired up.

Speaker 1 I think Caleb Williams should paint his nails before every game. Just calm him down a little bit.

Speaker 1 I thought Caleb was pretty good today.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But then I kept remembering that he was playing the Bengals.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You just had to keep remembering. It was like watching one of your sons play a video game, but it's on the all-rookie level.
And you're like, whoa, Harrison's doing really well in this game.

Speaker 1 And it's like the easiest level. You know what he was good at, though? Like, all right, the guy's wide open.
Sure, the secondary sucks. He was pretty nifty in the pocket.

Speaker 1 Like a bunch of times, I thought he was going to get sacked. And that, like, to me, that's not all the front sevens' fault.
You know, they had a paw on him a bunch, but he was good escaping.

Speaker 1 I had him on two of my fantasy teams and had very high hopes for him in that Bengals game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Bengals defense might be the first defense we've had in a while where you just want to start whatever quarterback is going against them. I think I guarantee 25 fantasy points.
Flacco is just,

Speaker 1 you see it in his face. It's just exhausting.
These guys just want to kill all the defenders. What did they score? Like 38, two games in a row? The only team to lose both games after scoring 30 ever.

Speaker 1 That doesn't seem right. Cowboys, Browns.
In New Jersey.

Speaker 1 This,

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 this is like first pick. This is first pick in the draft, maybe.

Speaker 1 Oh, you think?

Speaker 1 No, just it's in the Jets, Browns, Saints. Those are probably three of the...
Titans, no? And Titans. But I thought the Titans looked pretty encouraging today against the Chargers.
I had that game on.

Speaker 1 I thought they were. They just had a good start.
They had a couple big, fluky plays. Jay Ward looked good in that game.

Speaker 1 I have

Speaker 1 Jets minus one and a half at home. You nailed it.

Speaker 1 I thought tic-tac, but I really, I don't know why I thought the Browns would be favored by one and a half, but one and a half. I'm really worried I'm going to put this in Ringer 107.

Speaker 1 as a as the Browns plus one and a half.

Speaker 1 Right. Because you always love it.
Like just their defense.

Speaker 1 You always love it. Well, that's why I hope I don't do that.
But I just keep thinking of the Browns' defense against the Jets. Just sounds delicious.

Speaker 1 Would this be a fun one to put Shador in if you were ever going to try him out?

Speaker 1 In New York,

Speaker 1 big, good game, right?

Speaker 1 The Sanders family needs something. Deion's getting annihilated at Colorado.

Speaker 1 Panthers home against the Saints with a chance to go six and four. They're over-under with six and a half.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 I have the Panthers by three and a half.

Speaker 1 I said five and a half, so we split that. It's four and a half.
No, they've decided us. The Saints can't be on the road getting less than to

Speaker 1 a five-win team.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure the Saints are going to win again. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sunday Night Chargers. The Mother Shuckers didn't have a ton.

Speaker 1 Sunday Night Chargers, Steelers in L.A. with

Speaker 1 there's going to be a lot of Stalwares fans. Yeah.
A lot. Like a lot.

Speaker 1 And I have the Chargers by

Speaker 1 two and a half.

Speaker 1 You edge me out here. I said two and it's three.
Did you win again? Five, six, seven, eight, one, two, three, four, five. That's it? No, we got a Monday night game.
We didn't do Giants Bears, did we?

Speaker 1 Did we pick it?

Speaker 1 I guess we talked about it and didn't actually pick it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bears home for the giants i had bears by five and a half yeah all right i had five and it's three and a half oh so you win though i don't think that's enough though one two three four five six one two three four five six seven eight what happened we ran out of games these teams can't be on buys i need more games here

Speaker 1 i'm sorry again

Speaker 1 sunday night chargers stealers

Speaker 1 yeah we did it no i know but it's just let's do it again a lot of warren rods uh

Speaker 1 in in primetime games yeah yeah yeah right

Speaker 1 and it seemed dubious before the year but they've actually been pretty entertaining this works out

Speaker 1 monday night packers

Speaker 1 sorry before i move on they are gonna have to move washington out washington's got some prime slots here um they they play in denver on sunday night football they play can you bounce a madrid game a madrid game against the dolphins that's pretty bad Washington against Miami.

Speaker 1 Instead of a loser leaves town, that might be a loser stays here match. Yeah.
Loser just has to stay in Madrid.

Speaker 1 The globe. Yeah.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Hey, Madrid, we hope you guys like football. Here's Tuat Taglioboa and Marcus Mariota.

Speaker 1 We hope you like this. Good luck pronouncing their names

Speaker 1 and then watching. Yeah, so they have Washington's on

Speaker 1 that. I mean, out of all those TV games you listed, the Christmas one's probably the biggest.
Yeah, against my team. That's a really tough one.
Yeah. That's big.
Because that's one of those where

Speaker 1 you're not going to the streamer intentionally. Right.
You're not like stumbling across that one.

Speaker 1 All right. Sunday night or Monday night, we have

Speaker 1 Packers Eagles, which I mentioned. I have Packers in Green Bay favored by two and a half.
All right. Well, so you win anyway.
I said two.

Speaker 1 It is two and a half. And watch the Packers be great.
And we're talking about how they're the best team in the league again. Because

Speaker 1 they look like not do that again let's all agree not to do that again they burned our trust too many times i don't get it i don't get it i also think if you wear like 1920s outfits you're destined to play that way a little bit you're gonna go three yards a clip and then you're gonna get stuck on fourth down and that's that

Speaker 1 not to step on parent corner but the packers are like my son where he's like

Speaker 1 when are you gonna be home i'm gonna be home at 3 30 let's hang out and then he comes home at like 7 30. it's like i know you're gonna be home at 3 30.
oh yeah.

Speaker 1 Right. I went there instead.
Now I'm home.

Speaker 1 And after a while, when he gives me a time, I just don't believe it until he actually walks through the front door.

Speaker 1 The times are

Speaker 1 should we guess what time? I don't trust the Packers at all anymore. The Packers are like, we're going to win.
We're taking this seriously. We're going for the Super Bowl.
It's like, cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't trust you. I think that should be added to a line.
All right. Ben says he's going to be home at 3.30.
All right. Bill, what did you pick? Sounds like 7.25.
5.15. Oh, you get it.
I picked 6:30.

Speaker 1 He did a good one today. He said 1:30, and he came home at 5:30, which is anytime he can be an extra four.
And there's always a weird excuse, too. Yeah.
Always something with like the girlfriend.

Speaker 1 We didn't realize we had to study. It's always that we didn't realize.
He's like a mattress delivery company. He gets a four-hour window, right?

Speaker 1 Or spectrum cable. Right.
Be there between nine and one.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 That's it for guest alliance. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Screw you.

Speaker 1 We do have,

Speaker 1 we do have a i don't have the the parent corner i guess i'll have to do that read

Speaker 1 i don't have the read for that see this is what are you gonna do we're live on youtube

Speaker 1 i'll do we'll just have to insert it in after the fact uh parent corner go ahead let's hear what we got all right so um

Speaker 1 You know, so we're trying to raise funds for Cooperstown, which is the end of July, right? So this is my 12-year-old Harrison's team goes up there and it costs like a lot of money.

Speaker 1 So we want to offset a few of the costs. So one of the parents runs a little

Speaker 1 league, actually, and has access to fields and was nice enough to throw a fundraiser where all eight-year-old teams from all over the area would come and play.

Speaker 1 And the 12-year-olds, Harrison and his buddies, would umpire, right? So they had to go through some slight training, but they, you know, whatever. They're umping eight-year-old games.
So it's okay.

Speaker 1 So Harrison's going to ump four games this weekend. So two yesterday, two today.
And I'm not going to watch him ump two games, right? There's too much college football for me to bet on. So

Speaker 1 you were expected as a parent to watch him be an umpire? I don't think so, but he had to get there and I had to pick him up.

Speaker 1 So when I picked him up, I caught the end of his second game and he did fine. Like he didn't screw up, right? You know, it's just two close plays at first and that was it.
So

Speaker 1 and then he went back today and my wife, Melissa, was in charge of it. So I get home from watching games today and she says to me, she's like,

Speaker 1 I was like, how did he do today? She's like, well, I thought he did well, but one of the fathers was complaining about a couple of his calls.

Speaker 1 What? I was like, you were watching and you saw this? She's like, yeah, he was pissed that his kids' team lost. And he's like, well, we probably would have won if there weren't so many botched calls.

Speaker 1 And I was like, well, he was probably kidding around. Did he know, Harris? He's like, no, he wasn't kidding.
And I said, well, did you say anything to him? She's like, no, he's an idiot.

Speaker 1 And I said, well, who was it? And he says, I don't know. I think Michelle knows who it is.
I'm like, well, tell Michelle to tell me who the fuck it is.

Speaker 1 Cause now I got to, who the hell is going off on a 12-year-old umpire in an eight-year-old game. She's like, well, he didn't yell anything.
He was just very vocal. And I'm like, yeah, that's enough.

Speaker 1 If he was vocal and like pointing out my son, like that's, that's weird. So she's like, well, what are you going to do? I'm like, I'll think of something.

Speaker 1 And so I said to Harrison, I'm like, what, what happened? He's like, dad, I was right about both calls. The runner came off the base.
He came off second base. Twice it happened like within an inning.

Speaker 1 And I called him out. I was like right there.
So I was like really pissed off. Like, I don't know what I'm going to do.
But,

Speaker 1 you know, Michelle, if you're listening, I want names. I want to find out.
I need to know who this is. And then I realized like an hour before the podcast, I'm like, this was me four years ago.

Speaker 1 So what can I really do here?

Speaker 1 It's all come full certainty. Yeah, it really is.
Such a mess. I still want his name.
I still can't believe you haven't been in a near altercation on the sidelines. Keep waiting to see that on TV.

Speaker 1 Would that be great? Would that be just the best to catch that? I would love it. Didn't what's her name get arrested for that?

Speaker 1 Jana Soprano? Wasn't that an episode?

Speaker 1 During the soccer game. Remember a million parent corners ago? My wife got into it with some older lady who was the grandmother of another team and was going off on the lady.

Speaker 1 Right, right, right, right. Yeah.
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Speaker 1 My parent corner, my son turned 18 this weekend. Yeah, I saw that.
Good job.

Speaker 1 When they get to 18,

Speaker 1 it's different than when you have a daughter that gets with the sons. It's like you just start thinking of all the missed calls where they may not have made it to 18.
Right.

Speaker 1 The times they almost bled to death or

Speaker 1 the time when they fell or they almost fell down the stairs or they dropped a rock in their foot.

Speaker 1 It's weird. It's not exactly,

Speaker 1 you're not just thinking, it's not like a Hallmark card. It's just missed calls.
But we had a party and then my son was supposed to be home today to

Speaker 1 help

Speaker 1 clean up after backyard, some stuff out there, and instead took his girlfriend to breakfast and then somehow ended up back at her place

Speaker 1 and then told us that she got him as one of his birthday gifts a puppy yoga session. Are you familiar with these? What is that?

Speaker 1 So this is something, this is like an LA thing that's pretty funny, actually, but I've never done it. I'm going to hate this.

Speaker 1 What is it? It's in Burbank.

Speaker 1 It's...

Speaker 1 You relax, stretch, and cuddle puppies in a unique yoga experience.

Speaker 1 So that's what my son was doing at some point today. And he was supposed to come home at 1.30 to clean up and came home when it was dark at 5.30 and then immediately started making himself food.

Speaker 1 And I was like, you're going to clean up in the back. And he said, Dad, I haven't eaten yet.

Speaker 1 And I was just like, happy birthday. I'm glad he made it tatin.
He's now like more like a roommate. Right.

Speaker 1 I would say more, less like a son, more like a roommate that we're renting out a studio one bedroom apartment to in the second floor of our house. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he just kind of comes in and you have to go in and you have to go, like,

Speaker 1 hey, uh,

Speaker 1 hey, the cable bill, it's, you know, we, we got to pay the last two months. I just need a check or you ben mow me.
Yeah, yeah, I'll get to it. I'll get to it.
Um,

Speaker 1 yeah, happy 18 to Ben.

Speaker 1 I'm going to, I have to hit him up. I'm going to contact him because you're not, you're not focused on the right thing.
You want him to clean the fucking backyard. Who cares?

Speaker 1 He should not be doing puppy yoga. He can't, he can't do it.

Speaker 1 He can't. This is a gift your girlfriend gives you.

Speaker 1 puppy puppy yoga club you say thank you uh i'm gonna go and then you lie to her and say you went and it was great but uh you don't need to do it again but they went together they probably went together yeah they went together oh ben all right

Speaker 1 puppy yoga

Speaker 1 we went through uh a lot of the college app process and which i know you went through with uh with Archie. And it's just so different than when we were applying to college a million years ago.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's like early decision. There's early action.
There's the common app.

Speaker 1 There's these essays, but then there's like these 200-word little mini essays where they tie it to what school, what, what, how do you see something like specific to the school and all these

Speaker 1 little things? And they try to flip stuff around to try to find out more of you. I was thinking about how haphazard it was

Speaker 1 when you were going to college. Oh, it didn't matter.
It's like, where are you applying? I don't know these schools. And then it's like, yeah, there's like an essay.

Speaker 1 And then you got to send them a transcript. But two teachers.
Right. Yeah.
Did he, does he have regrets?

Speaker 1 Does he have anything Carrie's yelling at him saying, I told you you should have worked here or you should have volunteered here? Because that's, that's a lot what was it?

Speaker 1 Well, no, it's actually, it worked out great because he's writing a 650-word essay about how the puppy yoga class changed his life. Good.
Rejected.

Speaker 1 How, how puppy yoga taught me a more sensitive side of myself.

Speaker 1 I want to do it now. It sounds great.
I got to, maybe I should have brought him up.

Speaker 1 We don't have to be that gritty, but come on.

Speaker 1 Speaking of parent quarter,

Speaker 1 my daughter's in the playoffs next week for soccer. Oh, nice.
And had a great season. And it was really fun to watch her.
The Div 3 athletes cross the board. There's a lot of colleges.

Speaker 1 These kids are 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 grad school students.

Speaker 1 They're doing all their stuff and then on the side, also playing for these teams and they're committed to it. And it's just cool.

Speaker 1 Like, I really think like for, if you care about sports, like the D3 athletes

Speaker 1 putting in the time when they don't really have to, you know, it's not like they're going to school for scholarship and it's almost like a job and they're, they made a commitment.

Speaker 1 Like this is a little different. Are you going out there for it? Of course I'm going out there.
Yeah. Does she, do you feel like she gets more nervous? Or I mean, I'm sure she likes when I go.

Speaker 1 She likes when I go. Maybe 10 years ago would have been more nervous.
Oh, really? Look at you. You're all grown up.
Nice. No, I just go.
I have my little spots. I don't do the pacing.

Speaker 1 And it's really fun. Only this is their second to last year ever.
If for whatever reason, there's a 12-year-old ref, take it easy on him, all right?

Speaker 1 There might be a 12-year-old ref for the round one playoff game. We'll see.
Anyway, good luck to

Speaker 1 Emerson. Good luck to everybody in the puppy yoga class.
And that's a baby doll. Good luck, by the way.

Speaker 1 That was today's paracorder. It was sponsored by workday.com.
Learn more at workday.com. So we completed October.
We reached daylight savings time. We got through the World Series.

Speaker 1 NBA is starting to calm down a little bit. Now we have actually a feel for the teams and what's happening.
Football is in the grind. Are you starting to get sad about football?

Speaker 1 This is right when it really starts to hit you. No, not yet.
Not yet. Should I be? You tell me when.
I think. Well, we're almost at the halfway point now.

Speaker 1 We're at the half point of the regular season. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 1 Headed toward Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Playoffs.
Yeah. I guess we're now you start to get sad like after Thanksgiving is when they right.
I would say that's that's it. Yes.

Speaker 1 Right after all the food is wrapped up and given away on Thanksgiving. I was definitely, I'm not going to lie, I was definitely sad when Jordan Love threw that pass in the end zone.

Speaker 1 to a guy in an opposite puppy yoga it right he really did right to somebody's puppy yoga pass

Speaker 1 um so that was it but yeah um all right by the way i bet i'm sorry i bet against your celtics i thought you were too too high on the celtics packing it in and i told house wednesday i'm like i'm taking boston over cleveland here at home i'm taking the money line and uh and there you go so you're gonna bounce you're gonna jump back here they're gonna they're gonna make a run at the nba cup and then they're gonna suck again right

Speaker 1 it's weird them in indiana there's just so much infrastructure from being good once upon a time that like indiana beat golden state last night right This guy, Quentin Jackson, Carlisle is just regenerating guards in his garage that you've never heard of.

Speaker 1 And the guy had like 25 points tennis.

Speaker 1 But they're, you know, there's proud dudes on each team and they play these games and they're especially like national TV are against a good team. And they,

Speaker 1 so I don't know. I feel like all these teams are going to be probably closer to 500.
I wonder if the league's so deep now.

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 we're just going to see a lot of weird Charlotte beat who? Phoenix, like Phoenix beat San Antonio tonight. Makes no sense.
San Antonio hadn't lost all year. Phoenix beat him by 20 and shut down Wemby.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know, all these teams are pretty talented.
You were very excited about Brooklyn. RNBA Cup parley that you put together.
We're like, all right. Oh, yeah.
What was that? Read that one.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Now I don't have it.
It's Philadelphia, Milwaukee,

Speaker 1 San Antonio, and OKC. And it was 116 to 1 on FanDuel.
Just to win their groups, right? To win their groups. And then Philadelphia lost to Boston.
That's all right. We'll get it back.
But

Speaker 1 they can still get there. Yeah, we were excited.
We needed something to make the NBA Cup more fun.

Speaker 1 All right, cuz. We'll see you on the Ringer Gambling Show Tuesday.
Yeah. Wednesday,

Speaker 1 Friday. Friday.
And then the

Speaker 1 maybe at the end of the year, we'll have you rank the shows and see which one you like the best. All right.
Okay, good.

Speaker 1 And then, Raheem, did we settle the thing where he tried to cheat on the Sunday pregame show or no? We didn't settle it. I don't know what you could have settled it.

Speaker 1 And you could have said minus 120s or less. I think minus 120s should be the highest you can go on a single bet.

Speaker 1 He gets mad because he thinks they're moving during the show, but it never moves against him. I just, anyway, he lost.

Speaker 1 He wanted to take the Chargers minus nine and a half and not 10 or 10 and a half as Vandal had it. And so, whatever, I gave it to him, but I'm still in first place.

Speaker 1 All right, that's it. We're wrapping it up here on YouTube.
Uh,

Speaker 1 cuz as always, great job by you. Good job by you.

Speaker 1 All right, that's it for the podcast. Thanks to Cousin Sal, thanks to Jonathan and Eduardo as well.
Uh, I'm gonna be back with the rewatchables Monday night.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure the schedule of my podcast this week because I'm going back east to watch some soccer. So, I know we're gonna have a Thursday podcast and hopefully one more during the week.

Speaker 1 So, stay tuned, bear with me, and I will see you a little bit later in the week on this speed.

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