The Bill Simmons Podcast

A Basketball Movie Character Draft LIVE From Austin, Texas, With Shea Serrano, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey

February 20, 2025 1h 43m
It's a Grantland reunion! The Ringer's Bill Simmons is LIVE in Austin, Texas, and he is joined by Shea Serrano, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey to hit a myriad of topics before drafting a basketball team of movie characters. Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Shea Serrano, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey Producers: Kyle Crichton, Chia Hao Tat, and Steve Ceruti The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Order Michelob ULTRA today, available on Doordash! ENJOY RESPONSIBLY © 2025 ANHEUSER-BUSCH, MICHELOB ULTRA® LIGHT BEER, ST. LOUIS, MO. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Don't forget about the Rewatchables. We did Wayne's World this week.
Don't forget about the Prestige TV podcast. We're doing White Lotus and Severance covered all of it.
I'm there on Sunday nights as well. My Sunday night podcast with Brasillo is coming back this Sunday, I think.
I hope. Hopefully, hopefully Brasillo knows.
We'll have to tell him. Anyway, what you're about to listen to is me and Sean Fennessy and Chris Ryan and Shea Serrano going to Austin, Texas, where

for some reason it's 30 degrees, was not on the agenda for me.

But we're here anyway, and we put together a big show at the Paramount Theater.

There was 1,100 people apparently that are coming to this.

I'm taping this before the show.

I hope it goes well.

Wish us luck.

Let's bring in Pearl Jam. Why the fuck is it so cold? What the hell?

We could have gone to Chicago or Winnipeg.

Thanks to Michelob Altro for sponsoring this.

We're so happy to be here.

We love being in Austin.

I'm going to introduce...

You guys don't know who's here tonight, right?

No!

First up...

The Prince of Philadelphia, Chris Ryan.

Next up, the self-proclaimed king of Letterboxd, Sean Fennessy.

And last but not least, from the heart of Texas, the one How you feeling, Shay? I feel fantastic. I feel so good.
Sean went to a DVD store for like two hours today. What store was that, Sean? I went to Waterloo Records.
Shout out Waterloo. Yeah.
And I spent $184

on Blu-rays.

We almost died on the way there and back.

It was fucking cold.

Yeah, what is up, Austin?

So I was here for the Dallas Super Bowl

in Texas. When was that?

Like 2010? And it snowed

like an inch and nobody could get anywhere

because they had no snow plows

and that was when i realized oh yeah texas doesn't do well with cold weather uh we are going to do a bunch of stuff with you guys today we have a big fun crazy draft in the second part of this podcast but we're going to start we're gonna do a hodgepodge thing um let's let's start with all-star Weekend because it just happened sure wow

second lowest ratings ever

Shay, is this the same cost, can it be fixed?

it can be fixed

and I'm going to tell you how it's going to be fixed

there's a man

a 7'5 man in San Antonio

and he's going to save it

what's going to happen is

the same thing that we saw happen with the end season tournament

where LeBron said, hey, guess what? I care about this. And then everybody else went, okay, cool.
We care about it too. So that's Wimby.
That's going to happen with Wimby. He's going to...
There's another 7'5 guy in San Antonio. He's going to take it over.
I didn't know there was another one coming. Right now, Joker is the guy.
And he's like, I don't care about any of this at all. I don't care one single percent.
So everybody else falls in line. When Wimby's the guy, he's going to care.
And they're all going to care. CR, what did you think of my idea that we split the game up and the Sunday game is just guys from the top five seeds and they play for home court advantage in the playoffs? I liked it to the extent it's really going to have to just convince these guys to want to play more basketball and play more hard basketball.
I was thinking about this. I just think that this is probably entering the Pro Bowl zone where you just got to move it to the end of the season after the season.
I just feel like you guys want to play? We'll have like seven foot rims. You can do somersaults.
You know, like whenever you can get trampolines out there. Like it could be like basketball.
But I don't know about like the midseason after Luca gets traded. Let's all stop, go to this place and pretend like we care about this game.
Sean, Van thought that it might have culturally expired, which has happened a few times in our lifetime. Specifically with some actors, too.
Like who? I don't know, who have culturally expired. Like Kevin Spacey? Well, that's the...
That was good. Under two minutes.
I knew he'd come up. I was in San Francisco this past weekend, and I had tickets to the event and did not go to any of the events, which is not a good sign, obviously.
So, okay, I'll pitch you my idea. Let's hear it.
I think they should scrap the game. I think they should scrap the dunk contest.
I think they should scrap the three-point shooting contest. That's everything.
They should scrap the Futures game. What about the skills competition? So, I think that they should only do the skills competition, but for two full days, I'm not kidding, and make it like an insane double dare obstacle course.
Oh, like American Gladiators? Yes. Okay.
But the winning team, and I was inspired by Wemby and CP3, should automatically get home court advantage throughout the playoffs. So there's like real stakes.
So you'd have these guys like during practice, during the season, like really working on throwing the ball through that round circle or whatever and all the stuff they have to do there. You could win like seven games in the regular season and they get the one seed.
I like that. You could be like the playing team at number 10, but you got home court games.

That would work for the Sixers.

For a number of years,

I have told everybody

that I met that Sean Fennessey

is one of the smartest people

I've ever met in my life.

I changed my mind right now.

It's a horrible idea.

It's the worst idea

I've ever heard.

No bad ideas in a brainstorm.

Well, the fact that

we're coming up with ideas

like this tells you

how grim it is

for an all-star weekend. I had an idea I wanted to bounce off you for this.
Because I was thinking about, because if you say Pro Bowl and you make the NBA more like the NFL, why doesn't the NBA do bye weeks for teams but never take an All-Star break? It wasn't this like, the All-Star Weekend always happens at a time where football's over, you want basketball. You want important basketball games basketball games.
Like, why not just give the Bucs

10 days off, but then bring them back

and have it all work so that teams

have bye weeks throughout the season?

Isn't that what they're trying to do with Joel Embiid?

That was a Joel Embiid joke

you guys didn't hear because of the mic.

But yeah, that is what they're trying to do with Joel Embiid.

Shea, how would David Stern have handled

the NBA in 2025? Oh my God. I think about about this a lot He's like the angry Grandparent you had that you were like Oh man I hate grandpa He's so annoying and then you kind of miss him Yeah He would have cussed out everybody It would have been some private Meeting in a cafeteria and they all would have been Sitting at cafeteria tables and he'd just been like Guys guys, what the fuck is going on? What do you do? That's all that would have happened.
Do you miss Stern Fantasy? I miss the idea of the power that he represented. I also love the idea of him firing Nico Harrison.
He would have just done that. This guy is out of the paint.
And he would have done something like that.

So I missed that.

Do people in Austin, so do you lean toward the Spurs or like what's that?

Okay.

So when the Mavericks.

So you guys are just Luka fans.

Okay.

So when the Mavericks traded Luka, you guys are just laughing your asses off? Yeah. What was your reaction, Che? That was the first time I ever felt bad for Dallas Mavericks fans.
Like, I've laughed at every single horrible thing that has ever happened. When they lost to the Warriors, the We Believe Warriors, number one seed, belly laughed at them.
When they had their championship stolen by the Miami Heat in 2006, belly laughed at them. And then when I saw this, I felt like sadness.
Genuine sadness. Because you're a man of the people.
Yeah. 2011.
Yeah. 2011.
What was your reaction when you heard the trade CR? I never had you. Is Dirk here? Only people I didn't have on a podcast

was me.

My reaction was I was

coming out of the movie Companion

and

was just like utterly shocked. Couldn't believe

it. My favorite thing about it

since it's happened is definitely that

the Mavericks keep finding

executives to do profiles

where they're like, I underestimated

the crowd reaction to this. Like Rick Welts

just did one. I was like, Rick Welts works for the Mavericks? And they're just pushing these guys out on the ice floe to get shot with arrows like every other day.
It's amazing. Nico's doing a good job getting other people involved.
Have you been, I know you're a student of journalism, Sean. Have you been following some of these features with the Mavs? We weren't actually going to give Luca the Max extension.
People didn't realize because we're idiots. So we weren't going to do that.
Yeah. I think that they shouldn't talk, which is not good for journalism, obviously.
I think that everyone should be held accountable for their actions. I did have an idea for ownership groups, though, which is I think if you're going to buy a team, you should have to pass an NBA literacy test when you become an American citizen.
You have to learn about who wrote the Declaration of Independence. You should have to know the history of the game.
So Patrick Dumont? Well, I'm not going to name any names. Just be like, what year did the ABA and NBA merge? And he's like, ah, 1988.

I kind of like having crazy owners back, though.

Don't you?

Well, I like the fact that we always seem to have six to eight terrible run teams.

That's great for us for content.

But the real thing that's interesting is the Lakers are villainous again.

Because they pull off this trade. And then

they trade for Mark Williams

and then they just void

the trade. They're like, we don't like it.
This hasn't

happened in like two decades. And Mark Williams is

like, I'm healthy. I'm fine.

No, actually, no thanks.

And then the trade deadline

passed. Charlotte couldn't trade him.

But if somebody did this in your fantasy league,

it would be the angriest chain of emails ever.

And people would stop talking.

It's like, Bob's not invited to Gary's wedding now.

Yeah.

Oh, it's because of Mark Williams trade?

Yeah.

That's what happened.

Seriously, they haven't avoided a trade in 15 years yet.

Yeah.

And apparently when you make a trade, you send the team the medicals and they can look at them. So I think they just said, fuck it, we don't want this guy.
Yeah, that's all that it was. I swear to God, if the Lakers get some crazy deal for a center over the summer that they were saving the spot for or the trade assets for, I'm going to lose it.
Are you guys on my side that more people knew about this trade than everyone's letting on? Because I think a lot of people knew and then they're all like, we didn't know. Found out last second.
Rich Paul was like, I had no idea. I found out.
No offense to him. I don't believe it.
I think both coaches knew. I think Anthony Davis knew.
I think the agent knew. He had to waive the no trade clause.
I'm just never going to believe it. They're never going to convince me.
I think LeBron knew. But Luka had no idea.
I think Luka was the only one that didn't know. Luka was like, I just got an awesome $15 million house in the greater Dallas area.
The Mavericks were like, yeah, he didn't know because he was out there getting fucking drunk. And eating like fried chicken.
Lazy motherfucker. He was like binging Netflix.
So, Shea, the Luka Doncic movie, when they make it, is it a TV movie? Like a Ryan Murphy type of movie? Is it a sports movie? Is it a dark, seedy drama that Sean would really like and do multiple big picture episodes of? Or is it a heist movie? It's like Margin Call. Margin Call.
Just a bunch of late night whatever is happening in a whatever. That's all that it is.
You want to walk through the heist movie with Luka Doncic with Palenka as Neil Macaulay? Yeah, he kind of dresses like Neil Macaulay a little bit. Maybe a slightly tighter slack.

Do you think he has a condo with no furniture in it?

Yeah, because

Genie's never let him feel comfortable

enough to buy furniture.

I do like the idea of it being a Ryan Murphy FX series,

but I would want the same

cast as the

Aaron Hernandez show.

Just put them in.

Get Norbert Leo Butts to play Patrick Dumont.

What do you think, Phetasy?

I think this is the chance to finally get

Oliver Stone back where he belongs.

Oh, yeah.

And I think that we have yet to see

the way we can conspiracy theorize

about what's happened here.

But I think he should do it entirely

in the register of the doors

where it's just like Nico Harrison is just tripping on LSD the whole time. He micro doses every morning.
He's like, yeah, Luca should go. Just losing his mind.
He's a Native American guy in the desert. It would be great.
If they do it like JFK, that means you get to play Donald Sutherland. Who benefited? That sounds great.
What you're laying out, though, because then Cuban, maybe Cuban's like, because he's bitter that he sold the team, so he wants them to destroy the team, and he's like drugging Nico Harrison. Yeah, this is like, it's getting dark.
It's like traffic. That would be great.
Kevin Durant. You guys like Kevin Durant, right? He loves Austin.
KD's a little bit of a nomad. You know, starts out in OKC, nine years there, goes to Golden State, goes to Brooklyn, goes to Phoenix, almost gets straight in the deadline.
And yet I think we all like him. I always feel like I'm like a KD defender.
You saw the clip this week from the new Netflix series about the Olympics. KD just starts crying.
He loves basketball so much. I really think he's one of the most genuine athletes that we have, but also takes a ton of shit.
Shay, what do you want his next five years to look like? If you could direct his next five years, what would it be? I wouldn't mind him spending two years in San Antonio. That would be pretty.
That would be great. Maybe the two last prime years, right? The last two good years, and then the last three years, they bring the Sonics back.
It's time for the league to expand. And then he goes back there.
I think that would be really cool. So two years, like Wemby's first.
I can't believe he's in the finals this young. He's only 22.
And he's part of that with De'Aaron Fox. I like that.
What do you think, Sean? I think he should make a sequel to the Disney original film, Thunderstruck. Thunderstruck 2.
Thunderstruck 2? Yeah. Phoenix Rising.
Just keep following that story a little bit. You know, he messed up.
He should have signed with the New York Knicks, but he was a coward. So, screw him.
I actually... Oh, you lost the crowd.
It's 30 degrees outside. We can't attack it as though.
I love you, Texas. I actually think even KD would admit Nets over Knicks was a mistake.
Yeah. I'd like him to go to Boston and then orchestrate a trade for Kyrie Irving to come back to Boston with him and then maybe orchestrate a trade for James Harden to come back Tatum and Brown for KD I think the San Antonio thing would be great because KD really does have genuine affection for University of Texas, even though he was only here one year, but the way he talks about it, it'd be cool.
Hour drive, back and forth. He would be instantly beloved in San Antonio.
Which is what he needs. Yeah, he does.
Because you don't want to be the guy who played for 25 years and everyone's like, eh. Like Vince Carter.
Vince Carter got retired by Toronto. He's got a retirement ceremony every week.
You played for the Nets for four years. Wasn't there like a 15-minute honorarium to him during the dunk contest or something? Yeah, that was weird.
It really feels like we're pushing. He's still alive.
He's right there.

Right, then he came out.

It was like, I thought he was dead.

Vince Carter's at SNL 50, like,

it's all right.

It feels like there's a lot of rehabilitation stuff with retired

stars whose careers didn't

turn out perfectly.

Like Carmelo's another one, and then Dwight Howard's

like, I'd like to figure out how to do this, but I'm too much of a mess. I can't.
But in general, it's funny how like we hear way more about Carmelo and way more about Vince Carter now than Tim Duncan, who's one of the best seven players of all time. But it's kind of, in one way, it's Tim Duncan's fault because he doesn't do like the post-career, me, look at me.
Remember, he just doesn't. He doesn't care.
But now nobody talks about him. I think that's by design, though.
There's nothing he wants less than to be part of a conversation. So he's doing great.
He came in, won five titles, got the fuck out. Is he coaching? He's coaching now, right? Yeah, he might pop in and coach a little bit but that's the point that we're making who knows he's like John Wick he's like hunched over so you don't notice him Tim Duncan's at a bar and somebody's like yeah Carl Malone was better than Tim Duncan he over here is like I don't care I won five titles he doesn't he doesn't Carl Malone can have this one I kicked his ass all the time this episode is brought to you by Michelob Ultra.
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Shay, where do you stand on X-Player podcasts? Have we hit peak crazy yet? Or are there two years left to go? Because you go to Hoops Hype now and every day it's some guy who made the All-Star team once who's like, I was toe-to-toe with LeBron for five years there. And you're like, what team are you on? How far do we go with this? I think Jeff Teague is the perfect podcaster.
He's as good as... I like that one.
I great we're at the exact right level now one more and it all falls apart don't go anymore I hope Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart pod forever I'm really enjoying that show it's them just shitting on each other for 45 minutes you You're the biggest loser. What are you going to do if Leon Rose trades Josh Hart and that podcast gets broken up? Hire an assassin to kill Leon Rose? I'm not sure.
I don't listen to a lot of those shows, if I'm being honest, but I do respect that they are currently working very hard to eliminate shows like this.

That they're like, we have been observing your strategy of hot takery and we can do better.

Just like we can dunk better than you, we can also hot take better than you.

And that's kind of what each new show that comes along needs to go to a higher level.

So do you listen to that next podcast?

Sometimes, yeah.

You're like, these are my guys? I have an emotional relationship with these men who don't know who I am. Chris, does Embiid have a podcast that he does once a month? Does Embiid have a podcast? No.
Just like once a month he does it? Paul George, did you guys know that I found this stat? Apparently he's recorded 19 podcast episodes as a member of the Sixers and scored two points in his last game as a member of the Sixers before the All-Star break. It's kind of a bummer.
Turns out, that's why he was available. Do you want to walk us through where I'm at? Yeah.
It's pretty dark. You know know it's like i kind of do man that's why i'm wearing this fucking thunder hat you know like it's just pretty brutal like i think maxi is the thing that's made me most sad because he's obviously so bummed out by this that like even his effervescence is dimming the mb thing is i don't know I don't know.
I don't think he's ever going to be what we thought he was going to be. I remember the 2019 Celtics.
The year was the year after the Manning Conference Finals. Just to make it about you.
We can't talk about you for a minute. No.
No, when you know something's wrong with a season and and you're like, maybe this will be the game,

and it turns around, and then it doesn't, and then by December, January, you're just kind of like, oh, this is going to be one of the... It's like every Jets season for Sean.
But it's just like... I'm sorry, that was a call for it.
I apologize. Why are we talking about the Sixers? Well, but where you know it's not going to come back, then you're stuck with the season.
Come back from what with the Jets? I would like to know what's the furthest

away from basketball. Somebody has said something to you and then you went.
It reminds me of the 2019 Celtics. Let me think.
So we go politics? It could be like, my father passed away, Bill. You know, the 2008 Celtics.
We thought Gordon Hayward was going to pass away that night. You know what? Eventually Brad Stevens.
About Iran-Contra, with that affair, well, at that time we know Larry Bird was going for 26, 9, and 7. Were you sad to see Aaron Rodgers go? Sad to see Aaron Rodgers go? Yeah.
No. No.
I honestly hope he goes to hell. Least favorite athlete ever? That's just what legacy media wants you to believe, man.
My favorite thing ever, no one here cares about the new Jets regime, so I'm sorry, but the story that they were like, you can come back if you don't go on McAfee, and he was like, no dice, tells you everything you need to know about that guy. I liked when they did the hard Hard Knock series and you were like, wow, Aaron Rodgers is in this.
And then they got to one episode and he talked about aliens for two minutes. And you're like, oh, that's why he did it.
Because they told him he could do this. We were talking about this earlier.
Who is the number one celebrity or athlete

that's attached to Austin, where Austin goes?

Is it Glenn Powell or McConaughey?

Glenn Powell.

All right, so it's Powell and McConaughey in the finals, right?

Do those guys have beef?

Do those guys have a little tension?

Are we picking that up?

They're buds.

All right.

They're buds, okay.

Lance Armstrong. Lance Armstrong.
Lance Armstrong. Thank you, Lance, for coming tonight.
Yeah. I'll tell you, that reminded me of the 2019 Celtics.
All right, so let's go. I'll give you McConaughey and Powell.
So who says McConaughey? Who says Glenn Powell? All right. McConaughey.
Jesus. There you go.
Wow. They did not like.
McConaughey has really figured it out. Yeah.
Because he goes to all that. He goes to a lot of the Texas games.
He's like, like an assistant coach now. Yeah.
CR. scale of 1 to 20, how genuine is Bradley Cooper's Eagles fandom, would you say? 1 to 20, I'll give you.
I'm going to go 19 just because it feels super recent. I'm sure it's genuine, but I don't recall him being a part of the Eagles before 2017.
She's more recent. She was on a late night show talking about loving the Giants five years ago.
So it's just cool. You can love who you want to love, but she just switched around on the NFC.
Can I love the Eagles? Is that on the board for me? Sure. Okay, cool.
Water's warm. Shea, who's your favorite celebrity attached to a team celebrity? Let's go with...
Does San Antonio have one? Danny Trejo. Yeah.
They play like during Spurs games a Danny Trejo clip of him being like, hey, let's fucking go. Do they really? Yeah.
That's like a real thing. That's a really good one.
I like that one. That would be great.
Before every game, it's like Neil. Come on.
What about you, Sean? Favorite celebrity fan of one of my teams? Of a tie to a team. Any team.
The one you feel is the most genuine. I mean, Jack and the Lakers is the realest shit ever.
Not Larry David and the Jets? No, he abandoned the Jets. Larry David quit the Jets.
Yeah, he quit the Jets. Once again, smartest guy of all time.
Couple more quickies. Speaking of Austin, if Austin tried to steal the Spurs from San Antonio, would it cause the Civil War in Texas? There would be two million Mexicans outside of the Moody Center.
Mad as hell. So it's never happening.
Never happening. Where is this arena they're playing tomorrow? It's a nice one, right? Yeah, who knows? It doesn't matter.
Look at Shay's on it. No, I'm kidding.
Shay's kind of salty about this. I like Austin a lot.
It's one of the ten best cities in Texas. Like, easily top ten.
No question. Sean, who's winning best picture at the Oscars? I had that on my list.
Nora. Yeah, Nora Gang? Yeah, hell yeah.
Thank you. Because it did the DGA, PGA, WGA, whatever the hell, that triple crown.
Yeah, you nailed it, brother. In August, we were texting about the...
No, in September, we were texting about the Oscars. And I was like, I think it's a Nora because there's like nothing else going on and you're like, no chance.
Well, there's a lot of sex in that movie. There is.
And a lot of old people that vote for the Oscars. Did you like those scenes? I thought they were very well done.
Very tasteful. Very tasteful.
I thought for the character it made a lot of sense. It did.
Really strong writing. So the last movie that did those three but then didn't win Best Picture was Crash.
It was Crash, yeah. Well, Brokeback Mountain won those three awards in 2005.
Oh yeah, Brokeback Mountain won the three. And then Crash won on Oscar night, which is the first time I gouged my eyes out and then had reconstructive surgery.
So Enora, what if it's not Enora? Bill, how many times have you seen The Brutalist in theaters? Three and a half hours is a long time. What was the name of the Netflix true crime doc you were telling us about backstage? How long was that? Gabby Petito? Yeah, so Netflix has this new documentary.
This girl was a vlogger and just a lot of vlogging footage and I got sucked in three episodes. Guess what? She didn't make it.
Was it roughly three and a half hours? It was probably longer than that. It was it was probably longer than that so Brutalist is too long but a nine hour Celtics documentary is just right could have been longer these true crime things I love when the guys, the killers make the same mistake every time this This guy in the new one,

once somebody is dead,

they take the phone and they send texts back and forth

like the police aren't going to figure that out.

These people are so stupid.

Wait, what were we talking about?

I actually do want to keep teasing this out

of how you fix murder.

Oh, Brutalist.

No, so I watched a combined 14 minutes of Wicked, Emilia of how you fix Brutalist. I watched a combined

14 minutes of Wicked,

Amelia Perez, and The Brutalist.

They send me

all the screeners.

Sometimes I'm like, I don't know if I'm going to watch this. I'll watch

three minutes. I'm like, I'm out.

The other ones I'll keep going.

I don't have time to watch 50 Oscar

screeners. There's terrible basketball to watch.

I got like Hornets Hawks on a Thursday. I got real shit to do.
But I do want to watch The Brutalist. That just feels like you got to be in a mood, right? Yeah, a mood to enjoy something great.
My wife liked it. I forgot to tell you.
Did she? Did you like it? Did you see it? Did you see The Brutalist? No. I did the same thing you did.
I saw the runtime and I was like, I don't want to. It's intimidating.
It's like 40 minutes longer than John Wick 4. Yeah, that's 40.
That's a lot of time. And nobody's riding a horse with a sword? You wouldn't know.
I'm out. I'm out.
That's going to be in The Brutalist 2. Yeah.
I'll watch that one. I'm excited about that.
More movies should have that. I would have you give your Oscar bets to everybody, but they can't bet here in Texas.
What the hell, Texas? Boo. There's some fan duel people here.
They love this. Best actor, Chalamet.
No. No? No.
Really? What happened happened he has not won a single precursor so if he wins it's going to be really surprising so who's it going to be he's the people's champ though people love this kid you know what better better for the career if he doesn't win I agree it builds up it gets a Leo thing going it going. I think part of his campaign for this whole movie where he's been doing non-traditional media like Nardwar and doing photo ops with Carl Anthony Towns, which I fully support, has been so that he maintains his cool without having to seem like he's glad-handing every Academy member.
I like it. Adrian Brody's going to win, though.
Who's winning Best Actress? Two weeks ago,

I would have said Demi Moore, but now it feels like

Mikey Madison. She won it BAFTA over the weekend.

She has to win. I don't know.

It feels like we'll find out on Sunday

at the SAG Awards. That's when we'll figure it out.

If Demi Moore didn't win for about last night,

she's never winning. That's true.

So good in that movie. You thought for

Striptease. Yeah, I did.

It's an underappreciated classic. Speaking of movies, Shay, are we scared about Heat 2? I'm scared about it.
It's been a lot of conversations in our circles. Sequels are tough, man.
It's almost better up not happening than having one. We were just talking about Den of Thieves 2.
We were talking about a bunch of 2s recently. Twos are tough.
I'm nervous, but I feel like you can't go into it expecting it to be bad if it's Michael Mann making heat. You know what I mean? Go into it expecting it to be good.
Don't automatically be like, this fucking sucks. I can watch it and then go, that fucking sucks.
We should jump straight to heat three. Just skip two.
Skip two. You avoid the two problems and then it's just like finish the trilogy without making 2.
What's the most disappointing you've ever been in a sequel, Sean? Ooh. I mean, Batman Forever sucked.
That was tough. You know, we came off two Burton movies and they're like, oh, mixing it up.
Schumacher. Yeah, he's interesting.
Lost Boys. I like that guy.
The Client was a big fan of that film. Batman Forever is terrible.
That was if that was tough. I mean Godfather 3 is a famous one but we've come all the way back around international.
Oh my God. International movie.
That guy's about to be right in the frame with Pope Francis. He's in the mix.
What's your most disappointing sequel? I gotta admit, recency bias, but Gladiator 2

is a real power.

It had all the guys in it.

It had all my guys, and it just wasn't as good.

Isn't Ridley Scott, like,

88? He's 84.

Yeah, my card was up.

What about you, Shay? I think I'm gonna go with

Gladiator 2 also. Really?

The first Gladiator is a perfect movie,

and you just... All it needs to be is, like, 70% of that.
And it wasn't 70% of that. I have another 48 hours.
Yeah. Eddie was like 20 pounds overweight for some reason.
I didn't understand why Jack hates... Why he was in jail for five more years and then they just fought the whole time but then at the end Keough ends up being the Iceman and it's like what the hell then it ruins how you watch the first movie where it's like this guy was the Iceman the whole time and it was like a Jedi mind trick it really bothered me none of you guys have even seen it it ruined I don't like when it ruins the movie before it with what they do with the sequel.
When they go retroactively backwards and it fucks up like what was in your head already. Really annoyed me.
You think that could happen to Heat 2? That's what I don't want. I don't want my brain chemistry to get.
I mean, we've seen heat 430 times.

That's definitely affected our brain chemistry.

Yeah.

Shea, you were early on the WNBA.

Yeah.

Well, I was early for guys.

No, you were early.

It was like 2018.

You were the first player in the WNBA.

And now we're at the point with Caitlin Clark. Would you say she's the biggest under 30 basketball star we have or would you go with somebody else? Like on the planet? Yeah.
I think I mean it's her, it's Wimby and maybe Anthony Edwards in that conversation. But Angel Reese is coming up quick.
Like, she's playing

a smart game.

She's playing the personality game.

She's very charming, and she knows

how to turn it on. But yeah,

Caitlin just has this gravity about her

that I think puts her right now

a little bit above everybody else.

It's unreal. What do you think?

It pains me to say this, because

I don't know that he's the most charismatic person

in the world, but, you know,

Jason Tatum is, like, really

Thank you. real what do you think it pains me to say this because i don't know that he's the most charismatic person in the world but you know jason tatum is like really holy shit famous and successful and i'm not kissing up to you because are you trying to get a raise what's going on follow aaron rogers to hell honestly i don't i don't want anything good for him but i i like the premise of the question but you know first of all jason Tatum he's only like 21 he's got that going for him 26 is it actually Ja? I don't know Ja doesn't play I mean Ja plays he just misses games but kids love him like younger generations love Ja Shay's not going to like this but he's going to respect it Tat Tatum's got Tim Duncan-itis.
He does, yeah.

When you watched him on the Starting Five doc, that was my favorite part of the doc. Are we supposed to be

talking about Caitlin Clark? Anything about him.

We're going to circle back. You didn't learn anything

about him, and I said, I miss that. I miss that

in basketball players when all I know

about them is what they do on the basketball court, and that's it.

He gives you that, but

that's why he's not more popular than Caitlin Clark.

What's the Jason Tatum thing, or the Like, he doesn't have that magnetism that she has. Right.
You know? Sure. I care about insurance because of Caitlin Clark.
She was, like, in an insurance commercial. And I was like, I should get renter's insurance, I think.
Luca? I just don't understand when they say Tatum's boring. I don't really know what that means in the context of the NBA now.
It means that they're frustrated. It means he's not tweeting enough? Is he not doing enough Instagram videos? What's boring? We were talking about Kevin Durant earlier.
He's the only player who has improved

his image because of social media or making himself

available. He's the only guy who knows how to

do it. Everybody else is bad at it.

Well, it comes down to

authenticity, right? So KD,

whether you like him, don't like him,

can bitch about the Warriors decision,

whatever. He really seems

like who he is. He's the most

authentic of, I think, all these guys.

Tatum's pretty authentic.

He's just, you know, plays basketball, works out, loves his son. I don't know.
CR, what's your answer? Is Caitlin Clark the most popular basketball player under 30? I mean, she's definitely like appointment television, right?

If she's going off, people are going to be like,

you got to turn this on, you got to turn this on.

How many basketball players? What was that?

Bronny? Yeah, definitely.

Some of those G League games,

me and all the fellas.

Watching some G League.

Bronny's the best thing that's ever happened to go into a Laker game, because if it's a blowout,

everyone stays for Bronny. You can just leave and get your car.
It's like, this is great. I'm out of here.
Do you think it would have been funny if LeBron had backed out of the All-Star game and inserted Bronny in his place? That would have been cool. He should just start doing stuff like that.
I mean, would you have been surprised? Adam Silver would be like, what can I do? I don't have nothing. No power here.
Before we get to the big thing we're doing, who's winning the finals? Give us a pick. Give us a finals pick, a matchup, and a winner.
I still think Boston wins. I don't see anybody that's beating them, but they're going to beat OKC in five.

Sadly.

What do you got, Sean? Yeah, I think it's Boston. It's really painful.

Shut up.

It's really painful

knowing, having a, like,

rooting for a great team

and knowing that they're what I want them to be,

but knowing that they're still just, like,

one inch below a couple of other teams. That's painful.
You've been there before. You've never been there.
Just want the Super Bowl. I'm fine.
What do you have CR? The maps. Yeah.
Maps in six over Boston. Derek Lively makes a great comeback.
No, I think it's the Thunder. I think the Thunder are historically good.

Thunder over Celtics.

What's your pick, Bill?

I'm sticking with Celtics-OKC because it was the preseason. I think Cleveland's really good.

I actually think that

they've somehow become underrated

and undervalued. The Hunter trade was great.

They're going to have home court every

round for the first three.

How are you feeling about second row Joe these days?

Well, first of all, we call him Coach Joe.

Yeah.

Sorry, I didn't mean to disrespect him.

I don't know where I got that.

My dad's getting a little gamey with him lately.

Hasn't really liked some of the subs.

He's come home complaining a couple times, but he's fine.

It's a hunger thing with them.

We just saw it with the Eagles and the Chiefs, like, we always forget the hunger piece with sports where the Chiefs, they're complaining, it's like, oh, the Super Bowl, we do this every year, and the Eagles are like, I'll fucking kill five small children to win this one game, you know? And at some point, the hunger piece is a real thing, and then you're playing like Cleveland or OKC, these teams that have never been there and you won last year. It's that little extra something.
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So you guys don't know what we're about to do. The lamest and most overused gimmick at a live show is to do a draft of something.
And we're going to do that anyway. But we have a twist.
We are going to draft sports movie characters who play basketball. And we're going to make a team out of them.
And the catch is going to be for the two assistant coaches, the GM and the owner, are going to be from heist movies. And we're going to build our team.
And I swear this is all going to make sense. And we're going to pick...
We're going to be here for like two and a half hours, by the way. We're picking a starting five, a six-man, a bench player who has to be a real bench player.
It can't just be like a starter who's coming off the bench. We're going to pick a basketball movie coach.
So it's like Coach Carter, those type of things. And then two assistants from a heist movie.
A GM from a heist movie and an owner from a heist movie. So much stuff.
It's going to be very long. It's not going to be that long.
Shea, you have the first pick since drove an hour to come here. All right.
Wait, I have notes. Let me get my notes.
We flew like four hours. Why does he get the first pick? Shay drove.
All right, I got the first pick. Let me pick.
I'm going to pick this guy because automatically my team is going to be better than everybody else's if I have this character. And I don't think he's on anybody else's list anyway, but I'm going to get him.
I'm going to pick Elliot Richards from the movie Bedazzled. Everybody familiar with Elliot Richards? That's great.
In Bedazzled, Brendan Fraser, Elizabeth Hurley, she plays the devil. He plays a guy who's asking for wishes.
At one point, he wishes to be an NBA player, and she's like, poof, you're an NBA player. The hook, every wish he makes, there's like a bad part.
With the NBA player, he has a really small penis. So then he's like, never mind, I don't want to do this anymore.
But he's an NBA player for one game, and in the game he plays, he has 104 points, 45 rebounds, 32 assists, 37 steals, 28 blocks. He's 7'6", and he shoots 100% from three.
Wow. This is Shaq and Steph Curry mushed together.
Foundational piece. So, you're taking him as a center.
I'm taking him as a center. Yeah, big men are at a premium in a fictional basketball player draft.
Stretch five, though, but not downstairs. Yeah.
Yeah. By the way, I forgot to say three rules for this.
No cartoon characters. Space Jam's out.
No. See, a lot of Lola Bunny fans.
How dare you groan at our dumb rules that we made up five minutes ago. No NBA players is themselves.
Except with one exception. If you want.
But it can't just be like, I take whoever, Jason Whitechalka Williams, because he was in Eddie playing Jason Whitechalka Williams. And then...
Well, you can, but that's just the only one you can take. Right, right, okay.
And that's it. And nobody from Celtic Pride, because that movie sucked.
But we're not allowed to do that. And we'll go stink fashion.
Sean, you're up. Shoot.
I didn't have Brendan Fraser's character from Bedazzled on the board. He's going to fire a scout in the county department.
It's a tough one. Well, the first name I wrote down is Jesus Shuttlesworth from He Got Game, which has the added benefit of being a great movie.
And, you know, honestly, there are not a lot of great basketball movies, which you realize when you're going through this, a lot of great basketball characters, but Jesus was loosely modeled on a LeBron-esque figure, somebody who could come and save the game, memorably played by Ray Allen in the movie. And he had it all.
He had incredible range, handle, good defender, good team guy. His teammates loved him.
He had a lot of fun at Big State on his trip there. So he seems like an obvious centerpiece of my team.
Yeah, good pick. So Jesus.
You know, it's really, we did He Got Game, I can't remember when, for rewatchables. I just, Ray Allen was just such a one-on-one with his basketball style.
So good. Like, I just miss, I wish there was somebody like him now, but it's even fun to watch him in that movie.
Just like his shot, the way he carried himself, the whole thing. CR, you're up.
I'll take Neon Bordeaux from Blue Chips as my center. It's Shaq.
Only red flag is that he got 520 on the SATs and misspelled his own name.

Culturally biased. I think once we get him into our program and we just let our

culture loose on him,

it'll work and I get my big man.

So I'm really excited. So I thought he was

going to be the first pick. Me too.

Because he's dominant. But then I didn't know

Shea was going to pick first. I could have told you he wouldn't.

He's dominant in blue chips. That's young Shaq.
Skinny Shack. How do we feel about Blue Chips? Pro Blue Chips.
Great movie. I think it's one of those movies that I was disappointed by for like 15 years and then around 2009 I was like this movie is fucking awesome.
I'm so glad it exists. It's the best basketball we've ever seen in a movie.
Because they just set the camera down here and just followed. And they had all the best guys from 92, 93.
They're just running like real games. I forgot that Patino coaches Western Texas in that movie.
All right, I guess I'm up. With two picks.
So there's a lot of guys left on the board that I like. And I'm taking an pick out of the gate.
I'm sorry, a GM pick. I'm taking Neil Macaulay from Heat.
I have to have him. He's got to be on my team.
Why are you so interested in what I do, lady? I really feel like he's methodical. Little Sam Presti-ish.
It's like you call Neil McCauley and you're like, we need Paul George because that's how we're going to get Kawhi Leonard. Neil McCauley would hold out for SGA in the six first rounders.
But what is his version of going back for Wayne Grow? It's a good question. Panic trading Chet.
You don't want to do that. But that's why

I'm here because that's where you

talk Neil out of like, don't know, dude.

We won the Paul George trade. Don't go after

Wayne Grove. If Palenka calls Neil McCauley for Luca,

does he go, there's a dead man on the other end

of this phone?

So the guy that you

want running your team,

his whole team

dies.

Except for one who's holed up somewhere.

He dies,

and the only rule that he ever

says he has immediately

breaks the first time it comes into play.

That's the guy

running your team. I was really impressed with some of

his heists.

Put in the stuff on the,

you know, what are those things called?

The things that break the tires?

Yeah. Not only the ambulance,

I'll see how it is. He got the job.
All right. My other pick.
I mean, this is a layup, but Fish That Saves Pittsburgh. Julius Erving plays Moses Guthrie.
And it's right, he still has his knees. It's like right after the ABA-NBA merger and he's just crushing it in real life.
He's in the movie. There's a playground scene where he takes a girl on a date.
That's the best. Starts dunking for her with slow motion with like music.
And it just lights out toward force. Women love that, by the way.
They love it. It started 50 years of people doing that on dates.
Anyway, he's on my team, too. So there you go.
Shay, no, Chris, you're up. Oh, we're going're going back.
We're stink drafting. Okay.
I think I'll take Billy Hoyle from White Man Can't Jump. I like it.
I like it. It's a little bit of a debate as to whether Billy or Sidney are, who's better? You know, I know that like.
Played right into my hands. But I think Billy just has that sense of fashion, that flair, that big game appetite.
I love it. I would say that.
So go ahead. So it's because he's white? Yeah, that's why.
Billy Hoyle, great character, very inspiring to a young me, but also a complete fiction. The idea of that guy bawling out on the Venice courts, absolute nonsense.
Sidney Dean would have broken his ankles a hundred times out of a hundred. I've seen videos of the professor on that same court doing that same stuff.
Yeah, that was AI we were watching. Woody was, Woody is Billy Hoyle, very Austin Reeves-ish when you watch Austin Reeves now, that kind of herky-jerky crossover.
And if he hadn't had the distraction of Rosie Perez being on Jeopardy, who knows what he could have achieved. Or just the distraction of Rosie Perez in general.
What about the Sanuki brothers? That was kind of an issue for him. CR, do you see Neon Budeau and Billy Hoyle running a lot of pick and roll or high screen stuff? Well, we have to see how my backcourt feels out, Bill,

but thank you for asking.

Sean, what do you got?

I'll just take Sidney Dean so nobody else can take him.

We can close out. White men can't jump right here.

Unless you want to take some of the guys they were both against.

No, I have people nobody's picking.

I just think Sidney Dean and Jesus in my backcourt.

We've got a lot of speed, power.

We're going to be really hard to defend at the rim. We've got range.
I'm feeling good about my backcourt so far. Also, I had my eye on Neil just to make you mad, but you jumped the line.
I'm going to make the crowd mad. I didn't think Wesley Snipes was good at basketball.
I never bought the high dribble. A lot of this.
A lot of his stuff is in slow-mo. And then when we did the research for rewatchables, it was like he had never really played basketball and they had to put him through a basketball clinic and I was like, I fucking knew it.
You could just tell. Whereas Woody, you could just see he had the flow to him.
So anyway, congrats, Sean. Great pick.
I feel like Giannis didn't pick up a basketball until he was like 15. Kind of a similar situation.
Quick study. Shay, you have two picks.
I'm on the edge of my seat. I have two picks.
All right. You don't know how we're going to defend that backcourt.
I'm going to tell you how we're going to defend that backcourt. Number one, we still have Elliot Richards, who's 7'6".
But give me Wood Harris from above the rim. Oh, my God.
You're going with Wood first? I want Wood Harris because I want a guy who, if he's going to lose, he's fucking shooting up the court. This is a man who takes winning and losing very seriously.
That's how we defend. They go, like, we can't beat.
No, it's Wayne Martin. Let's lose this game because he's got a fucking Uzi in his Adidas bag.
And I don't want to deal with that. So you have Wood as a forward? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Small forward. Okay.
And what do you have for your other pick? I need a point guard and I need a person who can get the ball around. I need a proven champion.
I need somebody with a little bit of blood lust. Give me Monica Wright from Love and Basketball.
That's what I need. I was re-watching it recently.
That's a good basketball movie. It is.
Right? There's a part in it early on where the first time we meet her, she's a little girl, the little girl version of her. And she walks up to the boys.
They're all playing. There's three boys.
And she's like, hey, can I play? She's got a hat on. And they're like, oh, yeah, sure.
And she takes the hat off. Oh, my the hat off oh my god it's a girl whatever becomes a whole thing they're like talking shit about her and then immediately immediately she fucking starts putting them in the blender just bucket after bucket after bucket and then she's going up for one bucket Quincy has gotten fed up he shoves her in the back she falls ground her face drags on the floor she picks it up it's covered in blood and then we in the house, cleaning it, and she's fucking smiling.
I'm like, hell yeah. That's a hooper.
That's the only person who can play point guard on a team with a guy with an Uzi in his Adidas bag. That's who I need.
I'm feeling real good about my team right now. Well, you went for toughness.
Yeah. Wood Harris, Bona McCall, and a 7'6 guy who played one game.
Who do you have, Sean? I'll also be selecting a stretch five, another incredible athlete with a gift we've not seen before. I'll be taking Sandy Lyle from Along Came Polly as portrayed by Philip Seymour Hoffman.

I'm putting him in your bench spot.

Okay. Well, I don't know what you mean by that.

Because raindrop!

I had him on my board.

What do you have, CR?

Isn't it your turn?

No, it's it.

I picked.

No, you're doing two now.

All right.

He hasn't picked in a while, right?

Did I screw this up?

Yeah, you went this way, then we went that way. You picked two, then you went back to me.

Then we went this way, then you went.

This is going great.

It's your turn.

It's your turn.

No, it's... Fantasy's third pick was what? Did you make a third pick? I just took Sandy Lyle, yeah.
Yeah, so you have three. Yeah, we're doing this correctly.
You go, and then Bill goes two, and then you go back.

My turn.

Kyle, cut this out of the pod.

I can't believe this is still out. Kyle, cut this.

No, you go, and then I go.

Kyle, turn the fucking TikTok camera on.

I'm taking Jimmy Chitwood from Hoosiers.

Another white guy.

That's a great pick. It works for the Lakers.
It works for Team Chris. It's fine.
Clutch just absolutely nails. He's mostly been playing on farmland for most of his life.
So I feel like when we get him into a modern sports science program, who knows what he could do. It's a great pick.
He did quit on his team. And came back.
He did come back. All right, it's a great pick he did quit on his team and came back he did come back alright that's a good pick he was on my board I bet he was on your board I'm going with guys who were awesome in real life when they were making the movie which brings me to Hustler from Fast Break, a movie that none of you have ever seen.

Fast Break movie that came out in 1979.

Bernard King plays Hustler,

who's like a pool guy who ended up not going to college,

but he was an All-American.

And if you watch Fast Break,

it's just Bernard King just being amazing.

So I'm putting him with Dr. J,

and I'm kicking ass with those two guys.

Plus I have a team of Moses Guthrie, Hustler, and Neil McCauley as my GM. I'm feeling great.
So there's two. And then I'm so excited this guy's on the board.
I need a center. He's a little undersized.
In Teen Wolf. You can't make him your center? Are you serious? I'm not taking Teen Wolf.
Oh, okay. No, you're taking Big Body.
If you've watched Teen Wolf enough, number 45, white guy. Teen Wolf, you know, he turns into a wolf than he did in the last game.
He got all the praise. The school rallied around him.
They're selling merch. Teen Wolf, are we sure he's good? No, well, he was great.
Number 45 is just fucking carrying them.

You watch that movie,

he's protecting the rim,

he's rebounding,

he's doing everything.

It's like heroic to watch.

I don't know what his name was and I don't even know

if he was in the credits,

but if you watch,

he's like 15, 12, and 5

in the final game.

This is an iconic draft from you.

So I'm going number 45 on Teen Wolf as my fourth pick. Chris, you're up.
I'm up again? Yeah. Okay.
I'll take Shep from above the rim. Our advanced analytics team loves this.
40 points in two minutes. He's 14 for 14 from the field.
Just like bombing away from three, way before three and D was a thing. So Moriball.
In corduroy pants. I know.
He was still in his work clothes. Imagine if he was wearing shorts.
This guy's wilt. You know, now, if they did above the rim now, those would be all threes.

There was a couple of threes in there, though.

Wasn't there?

He had 10 threes in that game.

I thought he was just taking like 17 footers.

No, no, no. Go back and watch the tape, man.

Come on.

We studied it.

Get on second spectrum.

He was money from the top of the key.

So I have Shep.

I like that. That's a really good pick.

And he goes in with your team of quitters.

Jimmy Shep would quit.

Shep quit.

Neon tried to quit.

Billy Hoyle tried to quit his relationship.

You're up, Sean.

I'm going to take a more recent vintage

of Player and the most

recent great basketball movie,

Hustle, starring Adam Sandler.

Oh, I like this. And I'll take Bo Cruz as portrayed by Wancho Hernan Gomez.
He's on the board. Great pick.
Wancho, need a big man. Obviously, a bit of an unknown coming overseas.
Really needed a strong voice, an advocate for his game. And frankly, we need his size on our squad.
Need size, unselfish? Yes. I thought you were going to go Edwards there.
Shit, Shea has two picks. I got two.
Jimmy Chitwood, great pick, very clutch. There's only been one player ever in fictional basketball who was more clutch than Jimmy, and that's Snake Plissken from Escape from L.A.
He's in the full court torture chamber of death.

He's got to hit five shots before the 10-second clock.

Whatever.

It ends with him throwing a full court.

This is in the second one, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Throwing a full court shot.

The first...

Let me explain what happens.

No, start at the beginning of escape.

Yeah.

They have a basketball court with guys with guns all around it.

They've captured Snake. They have him in the basketball court the guy in charge some whatever bad guy tells him hey you got to score 10 points i'm gonna put 10 seconds on the shot clock you get the ball at half court every time you score the clock resets itself and if you don't score 10 points before the clock resets itself or if you miss a a shot, we're going to shoot you and you're going to die.

So the first one, he makes a layup.

Easy.

But he bobbles it a little bit so he doesn't get all the way down.

So the second shot, he has to shoot like a 15-footer.

Now he's got to shoot a three-pointer.

And then his last two shots, he has to shoot from half court, fucking drills it. And then full court with his life on the line with one eye.

He's got one eye. And he fucking drills it.
It's as clutch as it gets. What do you think of Kurt Russell's shooting form? He's 100% from the field.
I don't care what it looks like. I don't care.
Fucking Sean Marion nut bitch up there. I don't care.
Let that thing go. He's so cool.
He's just such a cool guy. Such a cool guy.
Great. He came by himself.
It was 10 in the morning. He was wearing a leather jacket.
It was 78 degrees outside. And he stunk a cigarette.
And I was just like, you're fucking awesome. From you.
Sean, you're up. Wait, I got one more.
Oh, you were up. Sorry.
My last pick. I need a wild card.
I need a guy who's going to do something nobody else is going to do. Give me David from Prometheus, the android.
You fucking stole that from me, man. Yeah, see? There's one scene where he's playing basketball.
He's riding a bicycle and shooting... He's shooting three hook shots.
Hook shot. On the bike, drilling it.
And you know what the best thing about David is? You don't have to worry about load management. You don't have to worry about load management.
He's an android. Guy gets his head cut off, comes back to work the next day.
This is an unbeatable team. So, is that a forward or a guard? That's a guard.
That's my shooting guard. Android guy? Okay.
That's my five. Wow, that's quite a team you got.
Thank you. Bedazzled guy, Wood Harris, Monomacall, Android, and Snake Puskin on Shay's team right now.
A couple spots left. What do you got, Sean? I've got an incredibly flexible roster, but I need an owner.
My man is stressed. Somebody who I can really trust.
Somebody who's got big ideas, who knows how to continue building out a front office. No Nicos in this business.
So I'm going Joe Cabot from Reservoir Dogs. Oh, you know,

we know how he knows how to put a job together.

We know he's just a mean

what's his owner GM.

He's owner.

Okay.

And he also loves

his nepo baby son gave him a job in the front

office,

which is very owner behavior.

And I'm just really excited about what

we're going to do together. And also he loves colors.
so he's going to be great with uniforms. Nice job.
That's a really nice pick. Thank you.
CR? I have Shep, I've got Chitwood, I've got Hoyle, and I've got Neon. It's a great team.
Not enough balls for that team. I think I need a glue guy.

I need a deep bench guy who's going to keep

everybody loose. So I'm going to go

with Jim Carroll from Basketball Diaries

played by Leonardo DiCaprio.

I love the idea of him getting

Jimmy Chitwood into heroin.

You know, just to mix it up.

Sixth man?

Yeah, deep bench.

Another white guy.

I'm sorry about that.

By accident.

This is DEI.

This is what everybody...

Well, I was going to draft David.

That's right.

I feel somehow emboldened.

I don't know why.

That's a good laugh, Bill. I have two picks.
This is a big part of the draft for me. I need a guard.
Right now I have number 45 from Team Wolf at Center, Moses Guthrie, Hustler, and Neil McCauley as my GM. And I'm going to take Butch McRae from Blue Chips.
Keeping my philosophy of real-life basketball players playing characters,

this is Penny Hardaway.

He had not ended up on Orlando yet.

And I just want to tell you, because this was over 30 years ago,

them drafting Penny Hardaway to play with Shaq,

but they were both in a movie together,

might have been the single coolest thing in 1993. I think that's why they drafted him.
Somebody would really like that movie. Anyway, so we'll take him.
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Terms and conditions apply. What do you got, CR? I'll take Tupac from above the rim as my coach.
Oh, birdie. Birdie.
Interesting motivational techniques, communication style,

and I just think that this is a team of guys

like you've mentioned, quitters,

and perhaps Tupac will

motivate them to do otherwise.

A little razor blade.

Yeah.

Trying to balance out all that white.

Yeah, that's right.

So I have two...

Now Sean's up. Now Sean's up? Yeah.
A lot of guys left. Yeah, I'm going to take I'm going to slide Shuttlesworth to the three.
Okay. And I'm going to take Uncle Drew in the cinematic masterpiece Uncle Drew starring Kyrie Irving, which is a film I've not seen.
But I have seen that commercial and that old man can ball out. So he'll be bringing it up for us.
So you're getting a little smaller. Yeah.
Trying to counter all the white guys. Shay, you got two.
I got two for my sixth man and my deep bench. Sixth man, not a sixth man at all.
He's a sixth dog. Give me air, bud.
A champion. The greatest winner in sports movie history.
Championship in basketball. He plays volleyball.
Championship in volleyball. He plays soccer.
Championship in soccer. Baseball.
Fucking played baseball and won a championship. That kid's a winner.
Give me air, bud. It's a movie that only makes sense when you have a kid.
Because it came out and I was like, this is the fucking stupidest thing ever. And then you have like a five-year-old and they're like, what is it?

It's like Gone with the Wind.

This is the greatest cinematic achievement anyone's made. A dog scoring baskets.
Gone with the Wind is a weirdly popular movie in my locker room, actually. Yeah, right.
Billy and Chip, which is like I love this part for my deep wait are we allowed to pick TV as well or is it only movies no movies don't try to cheat you already took the bedazzled guy you have a dog on your team for Christ's sake I was. I was going to grab Jim from the office because he was a fucking monster.
But if I can't have him, then I need a deep bench person. Give me Spaceman from Sunset Park.
Does anybody remember? Yeah. Young Terrence Howard.
Terrence Howard. Right? Rhea Perlman's coaching this inner city team.
They're getting beat real bad in a game. She's yelling at him at halftime.
And he plays the crazy kid on the team that nobody talks to. And she's screaming at him.
And she's like, is there anybody in here who's not afraid to play this other team? And then they all look at him. And they just go, no, no, no, no, no.
And then it cuts to him diving after loose balls and taking charges and crashing into people and smiling.

And it's just great.

It's a great moment.

I need a guy coming off the bench,

running into people.

Give me space, man.

I just want to say,

we've known each other a long time.

And you had seven player spots.

You not taking Timo Cruz from Coach Carter is the most shocking moment of my year so far.

I don't need him.

I don't need him.

I just can't believe it.

He can't do anything better than the guys on my team. Can't do it.
I tell you what, Coach Carter would not have sent bedazzled home. I'll tell you that.
I'll tell you that. Sean, what do you got? Tough one.
Got Uncle Drew. Lock that down.
Jesus Shutttles worth sydney dean uh we're closing out the blue chips triumvirate i need a i need a stretch four so i'm going with ricky rowe the real pride of indiana who is uh the horniest greediest dickhead in the history of basketball movies but who has an incredible stroke as as portrayed by Matt Nover, and I'm referring, of course, to his bed game. Why are you staring right at me when you're saying that? When I think Ricky Rowe, I think CR.
And so we're going to be playing seven seconds or less, Phoenix Sun style. That's what I'm thinking.
I like it. CR?

Would that

go over well if I did that?

Let's think about it for a second.

For my owner, I've been thinking about

this a lot from a heist film.

I'm going to go with Krista from the town, played by Blake Lively. I just think Blake Lively in the owner's box is box office.
That's just absolutely amazing content. And do I get a second pick here or is it just one? Okay.
I have no idea what the owner is anymore. You only pick once.
Okay. I'll take Blake Lively lively as my owner so you're taking krista from the town yes shine's mom yes shine's mom oh and who's who's who's shine's dad i think it's supposed be, the implication is it might be Doug, right?

But it's going to be Ursillo.

Yeah.

I can't believe somebody threw out the Ed Norton.

My scouts did look at the two-hand dunk.

His real name was Derek Vineyard.

I'm not taking him.

Team chemistry was too risky.

Just didn't seem like a great move. When I got to Austin, I went to Kirk's house.
I was hanging out with Kirk and he was trying to convince me to take Derek. He was like, the advanced analytics say you should take the not- He was unbelievable.
He's like, it's worth the risk. It's worth the risk.
I don't think it is. It's worth the risk.
That's what guys were saying to Nico Harrison. He didn't.
He didn't tell me that. Kirk's showing you his shot chart his shots are in the shape of a swastika I couldn't not make that joke.

I'm taking, as my owner, Danny Ocean.

There you go.

Interesting.

There you go.

Handsome.

Good at his job.

He'll represent us well.

I think the fans will like him.

And he's got a Rob Palenka kind of vibe to him.

Could see him talking,

Nico Harrison in a giving away the farm.

I have some questions about Neil reporting to Danny.

That's one of the reasons

we have Danny.

Yeah.

And then

for one of my assistant coaches,

I'm just going to lock him down.

Also from heat.

Michael Choretto.

Played by Tom Sizemore.

I just feel like you need him

every once in a while for that.

For me, the action is the juice.

You just need him in the room

for the big moments.

He's on there too. I got him.
Sorry, CR. That's okay.
Just one pick or two picks now? You get five picks now. Five picks.
You always have one pick. All right.
For my assistant coach, I'm going to do Rusty from Ocean's Eleven. Just absolute.
Like, when the coach yells at you, when Tupac's done yelling at them, Rusty will just be like, sorry guys, don't worry about it. He's not really going to kill you after the game.
So yeah, I'll go with Rusty for assistant coach. I like it.
Sean? For my coach, I'll be taking Jack Cunningham from the way back because we know that Jack knows how to fight the good fight and inspire and we need to find a way to beat 7'6 Brendan Fraser somehow so I feel like he can draw up some interesting plays for our 7 seconds or less offense. How do you see Jack working with Sandy Lyle on your team? Well I see some potential issues But I'm excited to see what Jack can pull together.

All right, Shay, you got two.

All righty.

I need a coach.

Yeah, you sure do.

And I need a coach

who can handle a devil-wish man,

a guy with an Uzi,

a point guard with bloodlust,

an android,

and a one-eyed mercenary.

Yeah.

And there's only one guy we've

seen in any movie who could, I think,

handle that lineup.

That's Coach Finstock from Teen Wolf.

He's just

sitting on a bench. One of his players

turns into a werewolf.

And he looks

and he's like,

fuck it.

Ball up top, baby. That's right.
That's who I need coaching my team, so give me him. You know, just as an aside on coach, because he was on my board, he was the one who had the three rules.
Always get 12 hours of sleep, never play cards with a guy who's got the first name as a city, and never

go near a lady who has a dagger on her body.

You stick with that

and everything else is cream cheese.

That was Coach Finstock.

An absolute

legend. He was

on my board. We're winning a championship.

For my owner, I'm gonna

go the sort of same strategy

you win. I need a guy who pulled off the perfect heist.
Give me Dalton Russell from Inside Man. That's awesome.
Nobody dies. He walks away a hero and very rich.
Give me that guy. I want him running my stuff.
All right, Sean. We're running out of spots.
You have two assistant spots, a GM spot. I don't know.
That's Shay. I have a GM spot still.
Yeah, you have a GM spot still. Yeah, and I'm going double Affleck.
I'm going Tom Redfly Davis from Triple Frontier. So Affleck will be reporting to Affleck in a never-before-seen doubling in a basketball character's movie draft.
Great idea. And Redfly, of course, fails miserably at the end of Triple Frontier.
Nevertheless, I trust him to run this franchise effectively to a championship. Can I ask the crowd, where do you guys stand on Triple Frontier? Yeah, see, that's why it's on the list.
It's excellent. It's on the rewatchables list.

Affleck reporting to Affleck.

I'm back around.

Sean Fennessy is the smartest person I've ever met.

I'm back.

I'm back.

That's great.

CR, do you think you have one pick or two right now?

I think I have one.

Don't flip it on me.

I just didn't understand what you were doing.

What do you got?

What do I have left?

You need a forward spot, a bench spot,

an assistant coach, and a GM.

All right.

For my bench spot, I'm going to go Jackie Moon from SemiPro.

You never know when he could just light it up,

like just absolute great vibes guy.

What race is he?

So you have Jimmy Chitwood, Billy Hoyle, Jim Carroll, and Jackie Boone.

Chris's franchise is playing in Utah.

Or Boston, yeah.

All right.

So now I have two.

I really need a coach. You need a coach too, right? Oh, you took a coach.
Who needs a coach? I did. Am I the only one that needs a coach? I have Tupac.
He has Ben Affleck. Oh, yeah.
All right. So I need one more assistant.
I thought long and hard about Jim from the town, but I just feel like somebody would get murdered. That's probably a bad idea.
But I really like this guy, and I think he's like a Tom Thibodeau 2008 type. I know exactly what you're going to say.
Who am I going to say? Give her a little taste. No.
Fergus from the town? The flower shop? He's kind of a banjo of that movie, yeah. I'm taking Merriman from Den of Thieves.
Good planner. Takes his work seriously.
Family guy. Donnie planned that heist.
Merriman, guy. Yeah, but Donnie...
I got family here, bro.

Benny Hanna.

He's trying to enjoy a nice, silent

dinner with his family.

So,

I got Merriman, so that gives me...

I have

all my assistants. I'm not

hiring my head coach yet. I still need a guard

and I still need a six-man.

And Teen Wolf is still on the board, and you know what? Not any longer. So I'm taking Teen Wolf.
I'm going to have Scott Howard and Teen Wolf. I get them both.
And we'll just decide game to game if he's going to be the human or the Teen Wolf. And maybe even during the game he'll turn into Teen Wolf, but I think it'd be really hard to prepare for.
You just go to the game,

you're like, is he going to do the wolf thing today,

or is it just going to be,

oh, he's just a 5'4 point guard

that can't triple today.

But the other team's going to be in their toes,

so I'm taking Teen Wolf.

Chris, you're up again.

All right, so I need

a sixth man and an assistant coach?

Yep.

The dork! six-man and an assistant coach? Yep. And can we do that breaking the...
Edward, that would be funny for the social video they make where people are like, what the fuck happened in Austin? We can do the NBA player playing themselves just one pick. do it alright LeBron from Trainwreck plays basketball why boo you guys really want me to take Norton sorry for just trying to put together a diverse locker room Austin you just entered a world of shit every December he's going to be talking about how he needs more help yeah wait till like I don't know if Shep from above the rim is enough and forward gotta get a better score wait till Krista from the town talks to him for five minutes hey LeB LeBron, here's some Percocet.
All right, fantasy, you're up, and you need a... I need two assistants.
And you need a center. I have you with three spots left.
What about Wancho Hernan Gomez? I have him at... You can have him at seven.
I have him at forward. Do you have a center? Ricky Rowe is at four.
I have you as a... Here's what I have for your team.
Jesus Shuttlesworth, Bo Cruz, Uncle Drew, Sidney Dean, Ricky Rowe, and Sandy Lyle as your six players. And Wancho Vernon, yeah.
That's Bo Cruz. That's six guys, yeah.
But you can have a seventh. Okay, so I need one more player and two assistant coaches.
Yes.

Okay, I'll come back to the player because I have a good idea for that one, but

I'm not drafting Kazam you dork.

I

one of my assistants I need like a live wire.

I need a real mouthy guy.

You don't totally know what he's going to do.

Wayne grow. I'm going

with Danny Sharp

as portrayed by Jake Gyllenhaal

All right. I need a real mouthy guy.
You don't totally know what he's going to do. Wangro? I'm going with Danny Sharp as portrayed by Jake Gyllenhaal in Ambulance.
Ooh! That's a deep pull. Good.
Ambulance, which might be the best movie of the decade, and featuring an incredible performance by Gyllenhaal. And you know, sometimes there's a guy who's behind the guy who you're like, that guy's going to get fired tonight

because he keeps yelling at the best player.

That's Danny Sharp from my team.

Coked out wearing a turtleneck.

Do you like ambulance? I do like ambulance, yeah.

It just hasn't gotten me

yet, but I know it will. It'll get you.

It's just one of those things. I know it's going to happen

at some point. It just hasn't happened yet.

Let us know. I'll let you know.

I'll keep you all posted. Shay, you got two.
All right. So here's Shay's team.
Oh, tell them. Bedazzled Brendan Fraser, Snake Plissken, Wood Harris.
What was his character? Mutaw? Yeah, I don't know. He's just Wood Harris all the time.
Monica McCall, Android Guy. What movie was that? Oh, Prometheus.
Yes. Air Bud, Spaceman, Coach Finstock coaching, and Dalton Russell is the owner.
So you need two assistants and a GM. All right.
For my GM, I need somebody who's going to outsmart everybody. And because of that, I'm going to pick this person who she pulls off the coolest move in any heist movie that's ever been done.
It's a small thing. It's in set it off.
They break in to rob the bank. They're doing the, you know, everybody put your hands down or whatever.
They all get all the customers get down on the floor and then the undercover cop starts to pull his gun out. And then there's TT was hiding with it.
She was pretending like she was a, because she knew somebody was going to do that. She outsmarted them all.
That's who I want, running my team. Give me Titi from Set It Off.
She's a fucking genius. Titi is her GM.
Yeah, she's my GM. And then for my assistant coach, I think Chris was right.
You picked the wrong person from Den of Thieves. Give me Donnie.
Give me the mastermind. That's who I want.

I need a guy just...

Like the GM, I mean, the assistant should be the guy who leans over and is like, you should try this.

And then the head coach tries it and it works out.

Yeah, it's like the guy who came up with like starting Draymond or whatever.

Or Iguodala.

Like the triangle with Phil Jackson.

Did you just tell me that Ray Merriman was a bad pick?

Yeah.

Did I hear you say those words?

It's a great movie that's a bad pick to

run your team.

He's an assistant. He's just there for the

defense. Fantasy, what do you got?

Well, I need

another player, and it would not be

a Ringer-related

movie draft without Tom Cruise.

So I'm going with Brian Flanagan from

Cocktail. Wow.

It's a great pick.

He gets buckets. Obviously, he's not

Thank you. movie draft without Tom Cruise.
So I'm going with Brian Flanagan from Cocktail. Wow.
It's a great pick. He gets buckets.
Obviously, he's not guarded in that film. He's taking wide open free throws, barely making them, barely looks like he's ever held a basketball before they shot that sequence.
And yet, he looks amazing. So I'm going with Flanagan.
$10 a shot, right? That's right. Well, where are you putting him?

Because you can't put him at forward because Tom Cruise is 5'8".

Is he?

Is he guard?

He's your sixth man.

He's my sixth man, yeah.

All right.

That's a good pick.

Thanks.

I learned by watching you, Dad.

See, cocktail is a good example. They didn't make a cocktail too, and thank God.
Because cocktail one didn't need a sequel, and they would have fucked it up, and it would have been like him owning the bar, and then we would have had the memory of cocktail two. They would have called it cocktails with an S on the end.
Who should have played the hot young bartender, though, that he brings under his wing. That he groomed? Yeah.

CR, you need an assistant and a GM.

All right, for my assistant, I'm going to go

shooter from Hoosiers to his hopper.

I kind of like the amount of substance abuse

happening on my team.

Either these guys are going to keep

each other on the straight and narrow, or we're going to

turn into train spotting.

How do you feel about the coaches meeting with Birdie from above the rim, Rusty from Ocean's Eleven, and Drunk Shooter? I think that I would love to be a part of that dinner out. That's Chris's culture.
That's what she's building. All right, so I have two picks left and I I need a coach.
And I'm not taking Norman Dale because I've written about this, but if you watch Hoosiers, he's secretly terrible. I don't know what he was doing.
Almost doesn't design the last play of the game for Jimmy Chitwood. Yeah, he abandons him.
Jimmy Chitwood was 20 for 21 in the game. He's like, all right, we're going to do this instead.

Not doing him.

Pete Bell, I looked at for a while.

But, you know, he had a point-shaving scandal on his team.

I can't have that in my locker room.

So I got to go with my guy Gabe Kaplan in Fast Break.

You can see when I do the podcast, you see the Fast Break poster behind.

I love Gabe Kaplan. He was in Fast Break and Welcome Back, Cotter at the same time, which has still never been approached in Hollywood history, Sean.
Can you think of a twofer like that? I can't. It's like when Spielberg made Schindler's in Jurassic Park the same year.
I mean, you said it, I didn't. I was going to say Dune Part 2, a complete unknown, but you got me.
Gabe Kaplan gets the job. He's got to go to Las Vegas, and he just cheats and gets all these people who shouldn't be in college.
He does all these crazy things, and he's my coach. I still need a sixth man though, and it's not going to be Ed Norton and American History X.
Sorry to disappoint you guys. You know, man, there's some good ones left.
Kyle Watson in Above the Rim, I'm going to go with. You know, Great Value late in the thing.
It was a little me first for the first, what, hour of the movie? A little like LaMelo on Charlotte, just getting his stats as the team loses. And then slowly figured it out and became a team guy.
Set up Shep, rode Shep in the final game. Like Schroeder's arc, right? We were like, oh, a little too, ball first, won't be me.
And now he's a good teammate. Yeah.
So he's my sixth man.

What do you got for your last pick, Chris?

It's just one last sixth man or bench guy here for me.

Yeah.

No, you need a GM.

Oh.

And I took Neil McCauley off the fucking board.

I can't have him.

This is the easiest one.

I'll take Kelso from Heat, the guy who plans the whole robbery. The guy was just like, it's just out there.
Just got to go grab it. So yeah, that's easy.
Because he invented the internet? Yeah. Sean, last pick.
You need an assistant coach. Yeah, easy one.
I'm taking Bodhi from Point Break. Is there basketball in Bodhi in Point Break? No, it's a heist movie, bro.
Oh, okay, yeah. You're super spun around tonight, Chris.
It's Chris's first draft, everybody. Bodhi rules.
You know, does he live to tell the tale of his own success? Maybe not, but that's not really what we're thinking about when we've also got Danny Sharp from ambulance coaching our team and Jack Cunningham, who obviously has a long history of substance abuse. So we're just, this is one last season for us.
We're just trying to go out in a blaze of glory and I'm really excited about it. It's not a long-term project.
Not trying to build anything here. Joe Cabot, we saw what happened to the last team he had.
They all shot each other, so this could be complicated. Shea, you have the last pick, and it's an assistant coach.
And then I'm going to read everyone on the teams, and the crowd can decide. All right.
Well, you know what? I'm a sucker for a magic trick. I want a guy around who can do magic.
Give me Jesse Eisenberg's character,

J. Daniel Atlas from Now You See Me.

High pressure situation, we're in the playoffs,

and he's like, hey, check this out.

Ta-da! Some sleight of hand magic in the finals.

What movie was that?

Now You See Me.

I don't like the face that you made when I said that. It's a good movie a lot to watch today Bill Now You See Me, Ambulance Now You See Me was a movie that came out in the theater yeah it made like $300 million it's a good movie is that not on the list for you? Now You See Me so people who didn't get taken Junior from Coach Carter did not get taken.
The guy from the air up there did not get taken. Sala.
Flatch from Hoosiers, who all he did was go through a trophy case, put a bandage on it and keep going, trying to rebound. He didn't go.
We mentioned American History X guy. Louis Scott from Celtic Pride.
Nobody jumped on that. Buddy from Hoosiers who quit the team came back and really became a lockdown defender.
Shades of Dyson Daniels on the Hawks this year. Nobody took the Like Mike guy.
Calvin Cambridge. Nobody took Andre 3000's character from SemiPro, Clarence Withers.
Chris took Jackie Moon. I thought...
Nobody took the kid from Finding Forrester. Yeah, Jamal Wallace.
Liked his game. How about Odin James from O?

Was he on anyone's board?

No, but that's funny.

Mekhi Pfeiffer.

Yeah, just as Billy Shakespeare imagined it.

High school basketball player.

This was a rough podcast for Eddie because there were no Eddie picks,

including Stacey Patton, played by Malik Seeley.

Would you have included Kevin Garnett

from Uncut Gems as eligible?

Go!

Let's go!

Yeah, that could have been a good pick.

Nobody took Quincy McCall.

You took his wife.

Quincy was a bust.

Strap from Hoosiers and Chubby from Teen Wolf were the big bench guys

that I think were pretty shocked by.

And then nobody took Gem.

I guess nobody wanted Gem in the locker room. All right.
So here are the teams. And you guys can decide who won.
Chris Ryan. Neon Budeau.
LeBron from Trainwreck. Shep from Above the Rim.
Jimmy Chitwood. Billy Hoyle.
Jim Carroll from the Basketball Diaries. Jackie Moon.
And a coaching staff of Birdie, Rusty, and Shooter, with Kelso as the GM and Krista from the town as the owner. So that's Krista's team.
Fantasy has Bo Cruz at center, a little undersized, Jesus Shuttlesworth, Ricky Rowe, Uncle Drew, Sidney Dean. I wrote somebody down twice.
Of course, Brian Flanagan from Cocktail. And Sandy Lyle.
Not the strongest bench in the league. Weak bench.
People want to get your guys in foul trouble and see if Brian Flanagan or Sandy Lyle. That's very tips That's very tips of you.
Yeah, we don't second apron Jesus Shuttleworth's contract.

It's an issue.

Jack from the way back as your coach.

Danny Sharp, Bodie as your assistants.

Tom from Triple Frontier.

I'm so glad I got an ovation from the crowd.

And then Joe Cabot as your owner.

And then

my team.

A little undersized with number 45 from Team Wolf at center, but the guy's a fighter, man.

I just believe in him.

Moses Guthrie and Hustler, two real NBA players.

Butch McRae at guard with Team Wolf.

That backcourt's amazing.

I think Fandle just made me the favorite.

Kyle Watson coming off the bench with Fletch with an afro.

Gabe Kaplan, Merriman, and Michael Choretto as my coaching staff. Neil McCauley as the GM, and Danny Ocean as the owner.
And then here's Shea. All right.
I didn't read the team. Bedazzled, Brendan Frazier, Stank Pliskin, Wood Harris, Mono McCall, Android, Air Bud, Spaceman, Coach Finstock, Donnie, Eisenberg, T.T.
from Set It Off, and Dalton Russell. Yeah, baby.
Yeah, baby. Is that our winner? Yeah.
Yeah. I think we know who it is.
I'm like fucking R.C. Buford up here, baby.
This feels like a hometown verdict we never had a chance

he already said he was

going to fight all if he stole the Spurs

from San Antonio

now you're rooting for his team

what was the most surprising pick for you

C.R.

probably the android

from Prometheus

getting picked before I got to it

that's going to wrap it up for us. Sierra, what are you working on? You still podcasting? Just cranking out different stuff, yeah.
Still doing the watch? Yeah. The watch? Okay.
Actually, I'm really excited. You know, Bill, we've been working on an eight-part narrative podcast series called Podslut, The Rise of Chris Ryan.
It's about all the pods he does over the course of one week. It's like a follow doc.
How many Ringer pods have you been on? Over 20? Because we have 40. Do you think you've been on half of them at this point? This is the part of the behind the music where I'm like, I can do anything.
But then Bill's like, we knew right then that Chris was over.

Mountains of coke everywhere.

It's like, no,

put me on more pods.

Sean Fennessey,

you got the Oscars coming up?

Yes, sir.

You excited?

Scale of one to 10?

No, it's no.

It's been going on for six months.

I needed to end so I can go to the next thing.

Okay.

It's okay.

Ringing endorsement

for the pod there.

Thank you for listening.

What do you got to plug, Shea?

I'm still co-hosting the big picture

on the ring.

No, I'm doing

the basketball

podcast six trophies with our beloved

Jason Concepcion

every Wednesday. Still going.
And there might be a book coming out at some point, maybe? I hope. I hope somebody will give me some money to write a book and I don't know.
What are you doing, Bill? What am I doing? I'm just getting ready for the playoffs, baby. We got the Celtics thing on HBO Celtic City March 3rd.
So, no, don't boo. It's a great achievement.
It's an NBA doc as much as a Celtics doc. I really think you guys would like it.
We got some good music box stuff coming as well. SG back on the Red Sox? You excited? And USA Canada, the most important sporting event of our lifetime tomorrow night.
Thank you all for coming out. Thank you for the freezing cold weather and the pneumonia.
And we love seeing you guys. Thank you.
All right. That's it for the podcast.
Thanks to Chris and Sean and Shay.

Thanks to Kyle and Cerruti and Gahau.

As always, don't forget, you can watch this

on the Bill Simmons YouTube channel.

You can also watch it on Spotify.

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