Doctor’s Orders | 3. Dirty and Scummy

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I was at a trade show for work and I fell down and I needed to let my boss know that I wasn't going to go into work on the following Monday.

This is Jenny Malone.

In 2008, she was a 42-year-old working mom with three kids living in Northridge, California, a suburb of Los Angeles.

What she's about to describe happened in the months just after Juliana Redding's murder.

And this is the first time she's ever spoken to a journalist about what she experienced.

So that's pretty much how the whole thing started.

Initially, she didn't think too much about it.

It wasn't even an injury at the time.

But she had a little back pain and her wrist was still sensitive from a previous injury.

So I just wanted to go get it checked to make sure that everything was still okay.

So in California, if you get injured on the job, you don't go to your regular doctor.

There's a whole parallel workers' comp medical system.

Employers pay for it, injured employees don't.

Injured employees who can't work get a certain percentage of their pay while they're healing.

Workers' comp medicine might happen in a hospital you recognize, but most of the time the appointments and procedures are in a kind of separate medical world.

Medical offices and doctors that mostly just handle workers' comp patients.

And also different insurance companies from the ones you're probably paying premiums to.

So Jenny talks to HR.

She gets a list of workers' comp medical offices.

She's like, I don't know, which one's closest?

I live in the city of Northridge, and this was in San Fernando, which is not a very far drive.

It was called Frontline Medical Clinic.

There was nothing particular that attracted me other than the closeness.

But Frontline Medical didn't look like her regular doctor's office.

Well, I thought it was kind of dirty and scummy.

She walks in, meets with the doctor, and they jump into action.

The doctors there, after they did all of these x-rays and then the MRIs, they told me that I'm going to need surgery.

And I was like, oh my God, you know, why?

I knew that I had a pain, but I just didn't understand why I had to have a surgery and why on earth would that surgery be on my shoulder when I was feeling pain in my back.

But she met with the surgeon and he explained it.

You know, everything in your body is connected just because you have some pain in your back, that could be coming from your shoulder.

And she believed him, you know, he's a doctor.

He knows what he's doing.

So she went ahead with the surgery.

But then the pain didn't go away.

Weeks later, she was back at Frontline Medical and she got a new x-ray.

She noticed the doctors and nurses or those she assumed were doctors and nurses, they were whispering about her in private.

I said, what is going on?

Because I had been there inside that room waiting for a long time, thinking that I'm going going to get some kind of answer.

And I said, what's going on?

What's going on?

Because they were talking real quietly and whispery-like.

The two of them were, one was on one side of a counter and they were kind of leaning in, talking quietly.

And I was, I don't know, I just thought it was strange.

When I went out there and I said, what's going on?

The doctor said, you know what?

We don't know exactly what is happening.

But they say, the doctor's at a hospital right nearby.

Why don't you just pop over there and he can take a quick look?

They give her her x-rays and some other papers.

She can't drive herself, so her father-in-law drives her over.

And I was like, oh, okay.

I mean, I just wanted the pain to go away.

They had me go to a back door of the hospital.

I did not go in through admitting, and they positioned it that the doctor's so busy rather than going through all the paperwork in the front of the hospital.

Lucky me, I get to go to the side so the doctor can take a quick look at me to figure out what's going on.

Jenny was met by a man named Peter Nelson, who's a physician assistant.

You know, more than a nurse, but not a doctor.

And not the doctor.

And then Peter Nelson brought me back into some kind of a, like, some type of a room.

I don't know.

It was a medical room.

And

my father-in-law hands me the papers.

I hand him the papers.

And then he says, oh, no, we don't need that.

We don't need that.

I'm looking at your arm and I can see exactly what it is.

It's just a little stitch sticking out.

And then he proceeded to go and get some kind of medical equipment and one of those little pincher type things.

And he's trying to pull the stitch out.

And I saw the stitch that he was talking about.

And I said, oh my God, you know what?

That wasn't there this morning.

So I'm excited.

Maybe it is a stitch, right?

And so he proceeds to try and pull out this stitch, but the stitch wouldn't come out.

So he pulls a little bit harder and it wouldn't come out.

So then he goes and he gets some more and then some more equipment.

And then he has me sit down now because he thought I was just standing up.

He was just going to pull the stitch.

Has me lay down in like a gurney type of thing, you know.

And

then he starts,

he grabs the stitch and he begins to pull and he's pulling and pulling and pulling.

And I'm like, this hurts.

This really hurts.

I didn't have any Vicodins today.

Please, this really hurts.

So I'm telling him it really, really hurts.

And so he says, just be strong, just be strong.

Hang on, just hang on.

on and then he keeps pulling and pulling and i'm starting to scream and he pulls and he pulls and then there's this bloop that pops out of my arm and you got to imagine my shoulder is healing it's it's it's healed up not not totally but it's starting to have a scar and um you just feel it rips through my skin and there's this big bloop of stuff and it's yellow and pussy and i i i i didn't know what it was i'm looking at it as he's pulling and I'm screaming at the top of my lungs.

And I'm like, this hurts.

This hurts.

For God's sakes.

What is it?

Is this my muscle?

Is that a muscle coming out?

Is that a tendon?

Because it was yellow and gross and bloody.

I didn't know what it was.

And then after he starts pulling a little bit more, then I see

this

little square.

And I'm looking at my shoulder.

I see another little square.

And then I just started screaming, you idiots.

What the hell did you do to me?

You left gauze in my arm, you fucking idiots.

Excuse my French.

And that's what I was saying.

And I'm screaming at the top of my lungs.

I said, I need to see the doctor, and I need to see the doctor right freaking now.

This is wrong.

What you did to me is just absolutely wrong.

The doctor overseeing Peter Nelson, the doctor who convinced Jenny to have the surgery, is the same doctor we've been talking about all along.

And things are about to heat up for Dr.

Munir Ueda.

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This is episode three, Dirty and Scummy.

Janine Malone's surgery was in August 2008, five months after the murder of Juliana Redding and years before Kelly Sue Park and Munir Uweda would make national news.

That timeline is relevant because while the murder investigation was happening, there was a whole other team building a case against Dr.

Munir Uweda.

Lance Lamont is the journalist who runs adjustercom.net.

We heard her in the last episode.

And before she was a journalist, Lance began her career as a recruiter for medical claims professionals in Southern California in the insurance industry.

And the claims adjusters knew me because

I had recruited many of them and found jobs for many of them.

And I had my newsletter that evolved into a magazine that was all about insurance claims, workers' compensation claims, automobile claims.

liability claims.

So these claims people knew me.

They knew her.

They read her work.

So when she published the article, Where's Munir, which mostly centered around the murder case and Munir's background, she started hearing from her readers.

They said, the alarm bells have been ringing about this guy for a while.

So that was how I got sucked into it.

I went to this case through that avenue of insurance fraud.

And at the same time that I was writing about insurance fraud and hearing the investigators tell me about Jueda's frauds and how flagrant they were, I was also getting the scoop on the murder.

So it all meshed together.

Later, she would learn that many other insurance fraud investigators were also on the case.

What did you call it?

The criminal organization, Munir Yueda.

We reached out to five separate insurance investigators for this story, and most of them did not want to talk.

Nevertheless, we obtained stacks of documents from various sources, including investigation docs, and we were able to piece this story together.

In 2004, Munir Ueda and Paul Turley, a chiropractor, founded a medical company called Frontline Medical Associates.

For six years, it grew to include more than a dozen medical clinics across Southern California, including the one Jenny Malone walked into in 2008.

Kind of dirty and scummy.

Frontline's patients were mostly workers' comp cases, and so many of those were injuries from manual labor.

Think gardeners, construction, roofers, ag workers, things like that.

Most of the patients did not speak fluent English.

As early as 2005, the year after Frontline was founded, the California Medical Board opened an investigation into Munir that would eventually lead to his medical license being revoked.

It alleged that a physician assistant was performing Munir surgeries without Munir in the room.

Sometimes not even in the building.

Physician assistants have more training than nurses, but they don't usually go to medical school.

So while it's normal for a physician assistant to do more advanced medical procedures under doctor's direct supervision, it's illegal for a PA to perform surgery without a doctor present.

He didn't have the skills.

He didn't have the credentials.

He didn't have a license.

He was not a surgeon.

But he did surgeries.

He did a lot of shoulder surgeries that were botched.

People suffered.

In court documents, prosecutors allege that the physician assistant, Peter Nelson, performed over 100 knee and shoulder surgeries for Munir with his consent and without his presence.

In many, many cases, cases, they were unnecessary surgery.

Frontline was just the beginning of Munir's growing medical empire.

In 2007, when Juliana Redding and her friends got on that plane to Vegas, they had just found out that Munir had been lying about his age and his marriage.

What they didn't know was that multiple investigations of fraud and deception were going much.

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I counted on Workman's Comp to at least vet the people that operated and took care of the people because the more incompetent they are, the more it costs them.

I would think.

This is Kim Pope.

And I had a work-related injury and through

various unhappy ways, I ended up in the care of Dr.

Ueder and his group.

Kim is a nurse and in 2009 2009, she injured her shoulder while she was grabbing for some falling medical equipment on the job.

Like Jenny, she's also been very media shy over the years.

What happened to her was a nightmare that she does not like to relive.

Just for timing, this happened a year after Peter Nelson pulled inches of gauze from Jenny Malone's shoulder and a year before Kelly Supark was arrested for the murder of Juliana Redding.

I really didn't have a choice.

Kim had a rotator cuff tear, so so she got a list of approved workers-comp doctors, and like Jenny Malone, she chose the office closest to her.

This one was in Indio, California, another frontline medical clinic.

They were the closest, and I could get there and then get back.

There was just maybe three or four blocks from the hospital where I was, so it was very convenient.

As a nurse, she knew what a medical office should look like.

This wasn't it.

Dirty, dirty, dirty.

Smelled like

mold, old furniture, hard, you know, those

folding metal chairs.

That's what the office had.

Just very uncomfortable and just very dirty.

There she met a doctor.

Well, looking back, she's not totally sure that it was a doctor, but he held up an x-ray and said.

He said, well, it looks like you can need surgery.

So we'll just schedule that and we'll let you know.

He didn't even touch my shoulder.

They would have probably operated on my shoulder if I showed him my back was hurt.

I don't know.

They would have operated on something, I think.

The surgeon who was going to operate on Kim was,

you guessed it, Dr.

Munir Ueda.

And while it's normal to meet your surgeon ahead of your operation, for both Kim and Jenny, meeting this man was hard.

Well,

they told me that he had a really busy schedule, and I said, well, that's okay, but I need to meet the person that's going to do surgery on me.

This is Jenny again.

Remember, she wanted to speak with her surgeon to better understand why she needed shoulder surgery for back pain.

I chose a date and

I waited for him for about three to three and a half hours to get out of surgery just because I, well, I felt like it was really important to meet the person.

And

so

I just sat there waiting.

And then finally he came out and he was very, very nice and kind as you would expect a doctor to be.

He explained everything to me which I can't re-explain.

He used all of his medical garb and I didn't really understand it, but he kind of made me feel like he knew what he was talking about and this connects to this and this is why this is happening and that's why I feel the pain in the lower part of my back and not necessarily on the top of my shoulder or in the complete shoulder vicinity.

So I believed him.

But on the day of her surgery, Jenny says she still felt uneasy.

I just got the creeps in this place because of the way that they were pushing papers on me to sign.

And I know that that's normal.

It is.

It's normal.

But

something just grabbed me the wrong way.

And I didn't sign the arbitration agreement because I just felt like something was just weird in this hospital.

Just the way that the nurses were.

Yeah, I got a bad vibe and I should have just gotten up and walked away, but I didn't.

And then I was in the, I guess the pre-op room, there was nurses there and I'm sitting there and they, they put my arm out and these two nurses were just talking back and forth and back and forth.

And I had already had some kind of a drowsy pill.

So I'm sitting there and then they take my arm, they lay my arm out and they put my left arm out on because they have like a board that comes out for that I guess the doctor is going to end up doing surgery on to keep your arms straight.

And they put my left arm on and I was saying, excuse me, excuse me, it's my right arm.

Excuse me, it's my right arm.

And finally, one of the nurses turns around and says, what?

And I said, no, you got my left arm out.

It's my right arm.

No, honey, it's your left arm.

I said, no, it's my right arm.

And I'm, like I said, got some kind of drug in me.

I don't know what.

And then she takes the book that they have and she's flipping through it.

She goes, oh, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.

It flipped back to the prior patient.

And then they switched it and they put it to my right arm.

So my intuition was right about everything.

Kim, on the day of her surgery, was told to arrive at 5.30 a.m.

to a place called South Bay Surgical and Spine Institute.

And I was like number 10.

I was way down there.

And I went up and complained several times.

And they said, well, we bring people in because we don't want them to eat or drink anything in the case get canceled.

She says, as a nurse, she knew this was not common practice.

I said, Do you have any idea what I am and anything about me?

I'm a nurse.

I'm going to work in an operating room.

I would not have done that.

You know, if I had known this, I could have slept in my own bed.

We could have driven down this morning.

There was no apology.

They tried to disguise the time that everyone was sitting there by they would take you back and draw your blood, send you back out, and then they would take you back and ask you medical questions and allergies, and they'd take you back and send you out.

So you would felt like you were getting stuff done, but I knew we weren't.

You know, all that could have been done in 30 minutes at the most and gone on to surgery.

But that's not the way they did that.

I did sign the consent,

but I did tell them that I would not go back to surgery until I actually met Dr.

Ueda.

I had not ever met him at that point.

And they said, oh, well, oh, he'll definitely come see you before you go to surgery.

And

then it was really late in the day.

I really, I couldn't guess, but it was afternoon.

I mean, it was probably three or four o'clock.

Dr.

Ueda never did come out, but it was late.

She'd been there all day.

She didn't want to have to come back.

I think I was the last patient.

I do think I was the last patient.

When she woke up from the operation, she said, again,

where's my surgeon?

And I asked to see the doctor to see if what, you know, do I need to be checked out or anything.

And they said, oh, you're fine.

You're fine.

And I said, okay.

just let, just get me the hell out of here were my last words in that place.

Both Jenny and Kim would later learn that holding out to meet their surgeon was pointless.

Dr.

Ueda never operated on either of them.

Instead, it was the PA, Peter Nelson, the one that never went to medical school.

About a week after her surgery, Kim returned to the India Medical Office asking for help because her pain did not subside.

The office was, as she remembered.

Just dirty.

Just very dirty.

She met with a Dr.

Johnson who looked even worse than that.

His left pocket was just about ripped six inches.

You could see his underwear.

He had food in his beard, food on his white shirt.

She said, What can I do for all this pain?

And he looked around and there was a pillow on the exam table there.

He pointed that the pillow and he said, I could sell you that pillow for $500.

And I said, I need to leave

now.

And I stood up and left.

Kim complained to the worker's comp office after her surgery, but it would take a long time for her to get any kind of resolution.

Shortly after her surgery, the medicine started showing up.

After the first appointment, I got this box of all these pills.

Pain pills, pills for nerve damage.

It was just a box full of pills, and they just kept coming.

I had a drawer full, and my dresser was a drawer full of medication.

She says, no doctor ever talked to her about any medications.

I knew what they were for, but...

They would never prescribe to me, talk to me about I was supposed to take, not take, take when needed, whatever I I was supposed to do.

I just put them in the drawer.

But even those didn't help.

There was nothing that helped the pain.

Nothing.

I mean they didn't do anything for me.

With so much pain and limited movement in her arm, Kim couldn't work.

Workers' comp paid her a percentage of her base pay, but she was used to hours and hours of overtime a week.

So I was making a tremendous amount of money, and then it was suddenly cut.

And after a year of not working at all, she lost her job.

I mean, my parents supported me, and here I am, a nurse, and my parents were supporting me.

I couldn't leave, I couldn't drive home.

There was no way I could drive.

Then she lost her health insurance.

It hit her really hard.

I called my parents and told them.

And

I was crying, crying, really crying hard.

And

I went into my room.

I was just

really crying hard.

And had gotten to that point where you're that

trying to stop crying.

And

just opened that drawer and took pills.

All I could swallow.

I don't even know what I took.

Her roommate heard her crying and got worried.

She later told me that my I could barely talk.

My words were mumbly.

She couldn't hardly tell what I was saying.

So she called 911

and

the hospital was right next door.

They were there in a second.

And

the last thing I heard

was them saying,

we don't have a blood pressure.

and I thought good I thought good

and then I woke up

stayed in the ER for

a few hours and then they took me by ambulance to a

some kind of psych place I don't know and

It was around midnight when I got there.

I can't,

I can't, my mom doesn't know, my dad, no one knows.

Kim is a suicide survivor.

With the help of friends and family, she was able to get her life back together.

Today, she's a practicing nurse again.

She needed three additional surgeries to reverse the damage done by the first one.

The doctor who corrected it said the first operation never reattached her deltoid muscle, a procedure generally needed to repair rotator cuffs.

After Peter Nelson pulled gauze from Jenny Malone's shoulder, she was livid.

I said, I need to see the doctor and I need to see the doctor right freaking now.

This is wrong.

What you did to me is just absolutely wrong.

Then the doctor comes in a little bit later, Dr.

Ueda, because we were at the hospital and this is, those are the only times that I saw Dr.

Ueda.

So he comes in and he says, I said, I said, you guys left gauze.

And he said, well, you know, sometimes things happen.

And I was like, sometimes things happen.

And he's like, well, you know, I mean, life isn't perfect.

Sometimes things happen.

And that was, that was, that was just that, that was his reasoning.

Sometimes things happen.

But Jenny had two things.

First, she had the bundle of x-rays and papers that the clinic had given her when they sent her over to the hospital.

Second, she had her father-in-law.

My father-in-law, he was a man from Italy, barely spoke the language, has no idea how to use the phone.

Every time you go to visit for dinner or something, hell, can you fix it up my phone?

Can you fix up my phone?

So my father-in-law comes in and he figured out how to use the camera on his little flip phone, and he's taking pictures.

And he got a couple of good pictures of the gauze and everything.

And I'm still screaming.

And then finally, now keep in mind it's not all out of my arm yet.

It was about 24 inches long that came out of my arm.

The first part that really gross gloopy part just blocked out and I don't even know what happened to that part but the other part is probably you know when you look at it probably about 12 or 14 inches and

anyway

they then immediately when it was out i it the pains started to subside.

It really did.

Yeah, I mean it still hurt don't get me wrong but you you could feel a difference almost immediately in how the heat that was in my body.

They left the hospital.

From there, they wanted me to come back to the clinic in a couple of days.

They had the photos, they had the x-rays, they had the paperwork.

She skipped her next appointment.

So my husband spoke to a friend of a friend and we went to a different doctor that was kind enough to see me.

And that's where I learned that, my God, the way that that happened in that room was just so wrong because a person, even if it was a tiny piece of gauze, what a normal hospital would do is keep you for a minimum of 24 hours with a fluid IV.

So it was just kind of a terrible situation.

Yeah, it was terrible.

But then she started getting phone calls.

A woman calling her, at first every few days, then every day.

They wanted their paperwork back from Jenny.

They wanted the x-rays showing gauze in her shoulder.

She said, that's their property.

She's stealing it.

The woman calling her was an associate of Munier's.

Her name was Kelly Sue Park.

She was just a nasty, mean lady in the front office.

And

she was calling me, threatening me that I need to get back in there.

I need to get back there in there immediately, that I stole their property.

Remember, this is just a few months after Juliana Redding was killed.

And she was just going crazy.

You're stealing property.

It's our property.

You need to give this back.

You have this much time to give it back.

Otherwise, you will not receive another payment.

She's talking about the workers' comp payments she was entitled to because she wasn't working.

And that was kind of scary for me because, you know, I mean, we were, you know, I was a little younger at that time.

And, you know, I've got young kids and I needed my money.

You know, I needed to have, even though it wasn't a lot it was something

and

so it truly was a threat to a family you know what I mean and it was scary just the way that she would talk to you you know and she told me that she would she said I'll I'll where is your father-in-law I will go meet him and he's in Westlake doing construction I'll go meet meet him and I'm like I don't even know where he is oh so you're lying you're lying to me where is your father-in-law where is the x-rays Then she got to where she was calling every hour.

That's when we knew that something was really, really off.

And

when I did see the new doctor, he made copies of the x-ray for me.

So I was able to give hers back, you know, so that I could get my money.

It was strange.

It was just a little bit borderline scary.

Jenny ended up filing a medical malpractice suit.

She says, in the beginning, her lawyer was excited.

So he called me up and he was like, oh man, we're going to get him and I'm going to figure out a way to get money.

We are going to get this guy.

It was really very encouraging that something good was going to end up happening.

But then something strange happened.

The lawsuit was dropped and it was funny.

It was dropped on the day that Dr.

Ueda was

and his team were coming to my attorney's office for the deposition.

So I met him early and and had everything planned.

We sit down in the deposition and he's asking all of the questions and

then we're going to break for lunch.

Okay.

So

we break for lunch.

I walk out down in Beverly Hills.

I'm looking for a quick place to eat and I was by myself and I don't know what everyone was doing.

I just assumed that everyone was going to lunch.

But when I came back from lunch, the attorney called me up to his office, which was upstairs.

And he says, you know what, Jennifer, I just, I need to let you know there's no reason for us to continue on with this deposition.

We can just be finished.

There's nothing because the truth is this man has no money.

There's nothing that we can do to go after him.

And I'm just sitting there going, what happened to our conversation this morning where you are all pumped up and ready to go?

Anyway, my gut feeling is that something happened while I was gone and he made a decision that it would be in his best interest to go ahead and drop the case.

For whatever reason, let your mind get creative.

Jenny let the suit go.

She just wanted to move on.

Even though she couldn't move her shoulder freely for several years, it stopped her from returning to her job, making the income she once made.

And maybe most importantly, it stopped her from playing with her little kids.

the way she wanted to.

Didn't get anything.

Didn't get anything except for losing my job, losing a lot of money, a lot of time, and two and a half years before I could get mobility back.

But this wouldn't be the end of it.

Well, it was

probably

maybe a year or two after the surgery.

The medical board wanted to get involved and I met with them.

They came to my house.

They were looking through.

I just gave them my whole entire file.

They were going through everything.

Behind the scenes, in the shadows, investigators were working slowly, methodically, examining the many different businesses and doctors that seemed to be associated with Munir Ueda.

And I believe it was

the people from the medical board that were sharing it with the DA's office.

But by now, Jenny's anger had turned into something else.

It was just coming out that he was up for a murder for hire.

And I said,

I don't want want my name on the record of anything to do with this man.

I'm not going to testify against him because I have little kids at that time.

And I just, I thought, my God, if this, if, if this is true, which was hard for me to believe because I thought the doctor was a nice guy and maybe he really did just make a mistake, you know,

I just thought it was so hard to believe that my doctor was up for a murder for hire.

It was just the weirdest, scariest thing.

A A decade after the first red flags against Munir, seven years after Juliana Redding was murdered, and two years after Kelly Supark was acquitted for that murder, new indictments were announced.

Good morning.

Two grand jury indictments revealed what California prosecutors called an organized criminal enterprise, with Dr.

Munir Uweda as the ringleader.

He and his staff are accused of putting greed over the health of patients with allegations of conspiracy and insurance fraud spanning more than a decade.

Prosecutors alleged one of the biggest health insurance scams in California history.

Botched surgeries, fake patients, unneeded care, unwanted prescriptions.

The size of the fraud?

Over $150 million,

they say.

Kelly Supark was again arrested, along with physician assistant Peter Nelson.

A total of 15 people were indicted.

One by one, associates of Dr.

Munir Ueda pleaded not guilty this week to lying to patients, disfiguring some in box surgeries, and cheating insurance companies out of millions.

But even with these new arrests, one thing was still the same: Munir Ueda, this time named and charged, was still MIA.

But the biggest question in the case: where is Dr.

Ueda?

Next time, on doctor's orders.

I know doctors who date models, I knew doctors who have show dogs, and I know doctors who have horses.

Now, I'm not sure I know a doctor who has all three, but not unusual hobbies for doctors.

You know that with any love triangle involving two misses, it will create quite a bit of attention and then people will be talking about it.

He was not a great person to be associated with, but we figured, you know, it was mostly about the money.

But then some of the things revealed a possibly greater diabolical person than we had imagined.

That's coming up on episode four, Wheel of Fortune.

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Doctor's Orders is produced by Western Sound for Sony Music Entertainment's The Binge.

The executive producer and host is me, Adair.

The executive producer for The Binge is Jonathan Hirsch.

Doctor's Orders was written and produced by Nada Salem.

It was edited by Ben Adair.

Lila Hassan is our fact-checker.

Legal Review by Davis Wright-Tremaine, LLP.

Michael Rayfield is the mix engineer.

Next up, episode four,

Wheel of Fortune.

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