Ranking the Top 4 Worst Hollywood Wives
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So today, I am going to take you down the Hollywood Walk of Shame, aka my least favorite Hollywood wives, who can teach us a lot about the toxic ways that women tear down their husbands to build their own brand.
As I really started to think about these women and their marriages and the way that they speak about their husband, it became very evident to me that this is actually a bigger issue, especially on social media with the way that just normal women also treat their husbands.
And just like you can take somebody in the public eye and see them as an example of what you want to be, take them as an inspiration, you can also look at them as an example of how you shouldn't be.
And that is what we're going to focus on today.
And today, in order to break down this lesson for all of us, we are going to focus on some of my least favorite women.
Hilaria Baldwin, Jada Pinkett Smith, Megan Markle, and none other than Michelle Obama.
Now, I want you to guess in the comments how I'm going to rank these women because there's a specific way that I am putting this together.
The criteria here that I have basically used is their online presence, their public persona, how they act, and most importantly, how they treat their husbands.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, so let's just dive right in.
Now, at number three on the ranking, coming in at number three, we have Hilaria Baldwin.
Now, I don't think that I have ever discussed Hilaria Baldwin, but the internet has at length.
She is basically a meme at this point, and the lore with this woman goes deep.
I mean, guys, in 2020, she got canceled for faking her Spanish accent.
The entire MO of this woman is that she is, you know, not from America.
Oh, she's Hilaria.
Oh, she's this, ooh, this ethnic Spanish woman.
Oh, she's so interesting.
No, she's like Hillary.
from somewhere in Chicago.
I don't actually know where she's from.
She's not from some faraway country.
She's American and she has been playing this ooh, spicy, et na grol.
No, no, and she is a terrible actor.
She is a far worse actor than her husband, Alec Baldwin, is.
But that has not stopped her.
And she has been determined to build her brand by stomping on the reputation of her husband.
Now, to be fair, what reputation does Alec Baldwin have at this point?
I mean, we all know what happened on the set of his last Western.
That was a huge deal.
I have heard that he is not the most pleasant of men.
People say that he's kind of a dick.
So I'm not here to just defend Alec Baldwin outright.
But also, you watch the videos of the two of them interacting and you can't help but feel awful for this man.
They literally have a reality TV show, which is the cringiest thing I have ever seen.
And a large part of that reality TV show is just Hilaria mocking and degrading Alec.
Like her entire online persona seems to be based on making fun.
fun of him.
Somebody posted this and said, not enough people are keeping track of Hilaria Baldwin's Instagram and her dedication to humiliating Alec.
I mean, look at this photo.
We don't even know what is going on here.
And yet you have her playing chess, smoking a pipe, and somehow she was able to convince Alec Baldwin.
See, this is now where I feel bad for him.
I feel guilty.
He's wearing a maid outfit with a little cap and he's bringing bunny slippers.
Like, is this how bad his career has gotten that he just has to do whatever his wife says?
He's like, sure, honey, I'll be in your humiliating skits.
No!
Grow a pair.
Anyway, here are a few other examples.
This is the example of how you should not be treating your husband publicly.
The crazy eyes.
Like, look at the end there.
Like, look at his face there at the very end as he is rubbing her feet.
He is like, oh, this is what my life has come to.
Like, are we watching serious actor Alec Baldwin and his wife, or are we watching a sugar daddy and his weird little sugar baby that he found on sugarbaby.com, whatever those sites are, because that is how this feels.
She has her huge tits just falling out, crazy eyes leaning into the screen, and this poor man looks miserable.
Here's another one.
This one is arguably far weirder, objectively weirder.
He looks unwell.
He genuinely looks unwell.
This guy posted the video and the caption reads, Alec Baldwin continues to do whatever his wife Hilaria wants him to do.
Here, Alec is pretending to be a baby who has a cold.
Incidentally, Alec is more than 25 years older than Hilaria.
Dude, what are you doing?
That also doesn't just stop with these weird social media skits.
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Just a few months ago, they were doing a red carpet and I want you to watch the way that she speaks to him publicly.
There is
a winner.
Oh my God, when I'm talking, you're not talking.
No, when I'm talking, you're not talking.
This is why, yes, we'll have to like just cut him out of the show.
There it is.
is gonna be great.
You're a winner.
Oh my god, when I'm talking, you're not talking.
No, when I'm talking, you're not talking.
How sad he looks.
I mean, that is like that's worse than any of these ridiculous clips.
They are on a red carpet.
He is talking to her, and he's saying, you're going to be great.
You are a winner.
He is complimenting his wife and she goes, cut him out.
You don't speak when I'm speaking.
Like, can you imagine what goes on behind closed doors?
If we see these videos come out where she is mocking him, where she is degrading him?
They're on a red carpet.
A place really where he should be instead of her, because he's the one with a long-standing career with the respect that is dwindling at this point.
And she's saying, cut him out of frame, shut him off, shut up, shut up.
So that, my friends, is number three.
That is an extreme example of the weird social media mockery, making fun of your husband for, you know, laughs and silly things.
But obviously, if you look at his face, you can see that this is like hurting his soul.
Like he doesn't think the TikToks are funny.
So now we need to get to something that I think is even more sinister.
And that, of course, is Jada Pinkett Smith and her husband, Will Smith.
Even if there was nothing else that happened in their marriage, Jada deserves this spot purely because she forced her husband to go on her podcast to talk about the affair that she had with their son's best friend.
Now, if you don't remember this clip, let me jog your memory.
From there, you know, you and I were going through a very difficult time.
Yeah.
And we decided
to kick me to the corner.
We were done with you.
Yeah.
Marriages have that, though.
Marriages have that.
That's the one moment where where you see some kind of honesty.
I was done.
He's angry.
This man is angry.
He is hurt.
The moment that he stops talking, he goes back to being a downtrodden, beaten man, genuinely.
Every time the camera goes to him, it is like the life has drained out of his face.
That is the common denominator that you're going to see in all of these videos, whether it is Alec, whether it is Prince Harry, whether it is Will Smith.
These men look like they have nothing left.
Like all confidence has been depleted and beaten out of them.
Like they are just a shell of their manhood and their masculinity.
That is what we're seeing.
And I'm going to let them continue because I cut this off before we even got to the best part, which, of course, is when Jada calls her affair an entanglement, because we all know that really is what affairs are, Jada.
I really felt like we could be over.
Yeah, no, we were over.
And then what did you do, Jada?
Well, you know, I think from there, you know, as time went on, I got into a different kind of entanglement with August.
We were on a break and I got into an entanglement with our son's friend.
And this man is sitting on her podcast being filmed as he has to process all of this.
One of the things that was kind of swirling in the press about you giving permission, which is,
you know, the only person that can give permission in that particular circumstance is myself.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
I did not give you permission to have an affair with our son's friend.
This entire situation is so freaking weird.
She is so calm.
She literally, she's taking this as like a moment of empowerment.
You see the smug look on her face.
She is so happy.
This man is so angry.
This clip literally needs to be in the internet hall of fame.
It never gets old.
It never ceases to make me want to die inside.
They have a track record.
If you look at the timeline of their relationship and their marriage, it has been one hit after another.
I think that this happened during COVID, I believe, but there were multiple times where she would be filming him.
She would go on a live stream, like what I'm about to show you here.
She would start recording him without his consent.
And you see that what is going to be like a trademarked look in this episode, you see that look in his eyes.
Just watch.
You know, Star Perone is coming to the table.
She's going to be at the red table.
Would you say she has been instrumental in you and not redefining our relationship?
I would say, don't just start filming me without asking me.
Oh my goodness.
If you confess, Sam, come help us again, please.
I'm still dealing dealing with foolishness.
Don't no, no, she couldn't just.
This is a caged man.
Okay, so I was wrong.
This is actually 2019.
This is pre-COVID.
She's bringing somebody onto her, you know, table, the Red Table Talk, that's her podcast, to talk about their relationship.
Again, she's always airing out their relationship.
She is on an Instagram live, turns the camera onto him and says, Yeah, why don't you go ahead and talk about how this redefined our relationship?
She turns the camera back to her and starts calling him a fool because he does not want this publicly aired out.
You can see how painful and how angry he is.
My social media presence is my bread and butter, okay?
So you can't just use me for social media and not, you know, don't just start rolling.
I'm standing in my house.
Don't just start rolling.
Please watch a stare at the red table because she's helped us a lot, can't you tell?
I mean, guys, could you imagine if the roles were reversed?
If a man sat down in front of his wife and was like, yeah, my little entanglement that I have where I was in a relationship with our daughter's best friend.
Can you imagine the outrage?
Can you imagine the outrage of mocking your wife?
Oh, she's such a fool.
Let me have her in the background of my video when she does not want to be on a live stream.
When she's saying, please do not air out our public grievances.
And yet you continue to do so.
That man would be labeled toxic.
And I think the main point with Jada is why air all of this out publicly?
Like, yes, marriages, you know, have ups and downs.
Maybe you and Will were really going through a hard time.
We know that they had moments where they were, you know, separated, then they came back together, but you feel the need to air this out for views and attention.
Like your husband, again, sort of like Alec Baldwin, is one of the most famous men in the world, one of the most famous actors in the world.
And you are degrading him.
You're using his success to build your brand, to build your podcast, to make you feel better about yourself.
That cannot be healthy.
That is not making your marriage better at all in the slightest.
And Will knows that.
He doesn't want to be in this situation.
He, in my opinion, is scared of this woman.
Like he does not recommend this road that they have taken for anybody.
According to GQ, this is in his memoir.
We could no longer pretend we were both miserable and clearly something had to change.
He went on, Jada never believed in conventional marriage.
She grew up in a way that was very different than how I grew up.
There were significant, endless discussions about what is relational perfection?
What is the perfect way to interact as a couple?
Definitely not what she was doing.
And for the large part of our relationship, monogamy was what we chose, not thinking of monogamy as the only relational perfection.
He concluded and said, we have given each other trust and freedom with the belief that everybody has to find their own way and marriage for us can't be a prison.
And I don't suggest our road for anybody, but the experiences that the freedoms that we've given one another and the unconditional support to me is the highest definition of love.
So I think that that word choice is really important.
He's not saying, I don't suggest this road for everyone.
He is saying, I don't suggest our path.
for anyone.
But then at the end, he has to tie it up with a little bow and go, this is still the highest definition of love because I am terrified of my wife who puts me on blast 24-7.
It is so twisted and it is so unfortunate because now when I look at Will Smith, who is such an icon, who is so talented, who is so funny, I feel pity.
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Now, you might think all of that is bad, but we have not reached number one.
Number one, and you might have guessed this, is Megan Markle and Prince Harry.
And you know, I like to think that Megan would like that.
Megan likes to be number one.
It came out that she still asks her friends to refer to her as Her Royal Highness.
She doesn't want to be called Megan Markle.
You know, her name is Sussex now.
Remember that whole clip with Mindy Kaling?
Also, it came out after she did her first podcast interview that she addresses notes to her friends as Megan, Her Royal Highness.
So, because of that, I would assume that she would love to be ranked as as the number one worst wife that we should all try to not be like in this episode of the Brett Cooper show.
Megan does not simply degrade Prince Harry.
She degrades his entire family, his entire legacy.
And this is a different kind of embarrassment.
When she talks about Harry, she does talk about him with affection.
She did that interview with the lady with all the bow talks and makeup lady where she was like, oh my God, Megan, Megan, I love you so much.
That whole interview.
She was talking about Harry.
And in that podcast, she said, you know, he is such a stud.
He's a fox.
I love him so much.
All this stuff.
So she is not publicly degrading him.
But again, what I think she has done to his legacy, to his future, is arguably even worse because she has relentlessly blown up his entire family.
She has mocked his heritage, his traditions, his grandmother, the former queen of England.
And it seems like she did so happily.
Americans will understand this.
We have medieval times, dinner and tournament.
It was like that.
Like I curtsied as though I was like,
Look at that man's face.
She is mocking his entire family.
Again, his heritage, the royal family, which is not just his family, but is a prolific historical establishment that means so much to so many people.
She's going, oh, it was like medieval times.
Oh, I had to do this.
And he's sitting here.
Look at his face.
Again, this is the trademarked look for all of these men.
It is the sadness.
It is the bags under the eyes.
Now, another thing that I want to point out is when she called his family racist on Oprah, that was the entire premise for why they left the royal family, why they did the great escape, why they took Tyler Perry's jet, which in hindsight that was not the greatest jet to take based on what he's going through right now.
But they took his jet and they fled to Canada or America, wherever they went.
The freedom flight, hanging out with Beyonce.
We have to be away from the royal family because they're so racist.
They're so awful for Megan's mental health.
This is what she alleged on Oprah about Harry's family.
Concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born.
It'll never not be funny.
And
who is having that conversation
with you?
What?
So.
And Harry is sitting right next to her.
There is a conversation.
Hold up, hold up.
There are several
conversations.
There's a conversation.
All right, now this is really important because Oprah responds and says, who?
Who is saying that?
You can even see on the specific TikTok, this person says, Megan needs to name them so an investigation can be done, an investigation into the racism.
Okay, she does not respond.
Now, that could be because she signed an NDA.
It could be because she's trying to protect Harry, whatever it might be.
You know, she doesn't want to get into the details, even though she's making these huge allegations.
Or it could be because none of it happened.
And she wanted to have this huge scandal because she wasn't fitting into the royal family.
She wanted to be able to leave and build her brand on the rubble of of his family, based on allegations, based on things that never happened.
And that's not just me saying that or assuming that.
That's actually coming from Prince Harry himself.
Because about a year and a half later, two years later, Harry released his memoir, Spare, which was also very, very weird.
You remember rubbing the cream on the nether regions.
It was very strange.
But the most important thing that came out of that memoir was the lack.
of that entire story.
A lack of this alleged racism, the mental health struggles that Megan was going through.
And obviously reporters asked him about this and said, where is this?
This seemed like such an important part of your story.
And this is what he said.
You accuse members of your family of racism.
You don't even
said that.
Right.
Did Megan ever mention that they're racist?
She said there were troubling comments about
his skin colour.
Right.
Okay, so Harry, did it not happen?
You blew up your entire relationship with your family that you, I don't think, will ever be able to repair based on what the tabloids are saying.
all of these, you know, sources are saying that your family is done with you because of the things that you and your wife, your wife specifically, has said about them, the things that she has made up, the ways that she has mocked them, the way that you allowed her to do so.
that you enabled it.
She didn't want to live the life of a royal.
She didn't want to have to fit into the confines of what it means to be part of the royal family, something that Catherine, Kate Middleton, Princess Kate, has been able to do so beautifully.
She made up all of these insane tales, allegedly, pulled you out of your family, severed those ties.
But more than anything, it's just sad because these are all relationships that could be so inspirational, that could be so empowering, that could be hopeful for young people who are looking to get married.
These are all successful, interesting individuals that have been torn down by their wives' desperate need for attention.
based on the mockery of their husband.
Now, I did have one other woman that I wanted to discuss, and I couldn't figure out whether I wanted this person to be an honorable mention or whether I thought she should be number one.
But again, you know, Her Royal Highness, I thought that Megan would want to to be number one.
But that would be Michelle Obama.
Because obviously, Michelle Obama has her podcast.
We've been talking about that a lot.
If you guys saw me on tour, my very favorite thing to talk about is Michelle Obama.
I love talking about everything that's going on with their relationship, what she's saying on her podcast, the lies that she makes up, whether it is about her relationship or about Trump, whatever it is, it is hysterical.
And literally, nobody's watching it except me, but I do it for you guys.
But in the moment, I really didn't feel like she deserved the top three position because up until she started this podcast, I felt like she had been a pretty supportive wife.
You know, they had a picture perfect family in the White House.
They looked so sweet.
Their daughters were so adorable.
She gave up a significant part of her career to support Barack Obama.
But as I was doing research for this episode, I saw a New York Times article from 2007 that made me think that, no, in fact, she does deserve to be here and she might actually deserve to be the number one spot.
Because every week in 2025, it seems like she is mocking and belittling Barack, saying that she thinks that he is too well respected, which makes it hard for her to have a career.
She's saying that she was so glad that they didn't have a son because then she would have had to raise another Barack.
She makes fun of him.
All of these different things, but it goes way back further than this.
And this is what the New York Times published in 2007.
This author writes, usually, I love the dynamics of a cheeky woman puncturing the ego of a cocky guy.
It feels very rom-com, you know.
I liked it in 40s movies.
I liked it with Katie Kurek and Brian Gumbel and Sybil Shepard and Bruce Willis and Moonlighting.
So why don't I like it with Michelle and Barack?
And then she puts a quote here from Michelle.
Michelle says, I have some difficulty reconciling the two images that I have of Barack Obama.
There's Barack Obama the phenomenon.
He's an amazing orator, Harvard Law Reviewer, whatever it was, law professor, best-selling author, Grammy winner.
Pretty amazing, right?
And then there's the Barack Obama that lives with me in my home.
And that guy's a little less impressive.
For some reason, this guy still can't manage to put the butter up when he makes toast, secure the bread so that it doesn't get stale.
And his five-year-old is still better at making the bed than he is.
That is something that Michelle said about Barack in a speech that she gave in 2007.
The writer goes on and says, many people I talked to afterwards found Michelle wondrous, but others worried that her chiding was emasculating, casting her husband under fire for lacking experience as an undisciplined child.
This was the first lady of the United States saying this about the president of America.
And you know, this author is right.
Like I said at the beginning, the cheeky woman, the flirting, the puncturing the ego, that is cute in movies when it's done in a funny, loving way.
But I don't really feel like this is funny or loving, especially not when it's done over a 20-plus year span.
Because over the long run, continuing to puncture this man's ego to degrade him in public, all in the name of views and attention and laughs, simply is not it.
That is not the formula to having a healthy marriage.
And there is a clear difference between doing that in a flirty way in private or making jokes and doing it in some kind of public form, no matter what it is, for the sole purpose of attention.
And all of this reminds me of an interview that Alex Clark just did with Tilly Dillahaye on her podcast.
Watch this clip.
It's telling women to speak their truth, turning women into nags.
Yes, I think so.
But to tell a woman you need to say what's in your heart and mind at all times or you're somehow lying or lying to yourself.
That's something that our grandmothers would have snorted at.
Like they would have heard that and just laughed.
What is that you're talking about?
Fashioned?
I mean, why is it bad to speak what's on your heart and mind at all times?
Because sometimes what's on your heart and mind is sinful and wrong.
And sometimes it doesn't need to be said.
Even if it's true and it's not sinful and wrong, sometimes it's not the right time.
And if you want to learn how to love well, you have to learn to choose the right place in the right time.
And also, you know, if you've ever been married to another human being, you know sometimes waiting
you know, a day means it's not on your heart and mind anymore.
You know, it's gone.
I'm sure that these women, like Michelle, think that they are some kind of martyr, that they are showing women, you know, how to speak their mind and how to empower each other and all of these things, how to call out their husband's flaws in the public forum.
But the public often sees it for what it really is, which is inappropriate nagging and not actually working through your problems in a way that is healthy and respectful.
And guys, it's also not just Hollywood.
This is not a famous person problem.
This has become a huge trend on social media.
You will see thousands of videos of wives setting up their phones and going, let me tell you what my husband did today.
I almost divorced my husband.
Here I am filming him, making fun of him for whatever he's doing.
Oh, here are all the icks that I have about my husband.
He walked backwards weird.
And now I have the ick and I'm going to post about it.
Like those might seem like small little things, especially the jokes, but that adds up.
And the more videos that are like that online, the more celebrity women who talk about their husbands in this way, it just steamrolls into something.
It steamrolls into a culture and this idea that that is permissible and that that's okay and that that is actually a key to having a healthy, open communication relationship when it actually is the exact opposite.
And this whole trend has become so big that there are now a myriad of articles that are written about it, like this one on Medium.
This one is from two years ago.
And this woman said, my ick is women who mock their men on TikTok.
I mean, this is just one example of the hundreds of thousands that you will see if you open up social media.
He's putting on sunscreen.
And the song that she has behind it, which you might not be able to play because of copyright, is, you look so dumb right now.
That's what she's playing.
And then she moves over her screen to her list of icks that she has.
It is a man putting on sunscreen.
I'm sorry.
If you do not like your husband rubbing lotion on his legs or sunscreen, you are going to have a long life of grievances ahead of you.
And the author of that article that I referenced, she brought up a good point and she said, What is interesting about this phenomenon that you just saw is that it's a lot harder to find TikToks of husbands mocking their wives' icks.
That's likely because men could not get away with that.
That's what I was saying about Jada Smith and Will Smith.
Will Smith doing all of that, he would not have been able to get away with any of this.
Barack Obama making fun of what his wife was doing at home if she was the president of the United States, he would not be able to get away with this.
If a large group of men secretly taped their wife, secretly uploaded the footage and mocked them for doing innocuous things, those men would be divorced in minutes.
And the internet mob would tell the woman that she deserves better.
Leave him, do all of these things.
That is what the internet would say.
Husbands and boyfriends are expected to just tolerate being crapped on in public because it's just a joke.
But is it, though?
What's actually funny about any of this?
A guy was stretching before a ball game, which is somehow an ick to his partner.
Yay, she posted it and got 14 likes.
Validation.
Yeah, that's what it's all about is validation.
And it can be in the form of applause from thousands of people and millions of views on your Red Table Talk podcast or Netflix deals, or it can be the validation from the 14 people who follow you on TikTok or the slight possibility that your TikTok video will go viral and a bunch of other wives will pile on and continue to crap on your husband and share their stories so that you feel less alone.
And it should not be this way.
Because again, we are all human.
We are not perfect.
Wives are going to do things that annoy their husbands.
Husbands are going to do things that annoy their wives.
A husband, and I can't believe I have to say this, is not a punching bag.
He's not a punchline for views.
He is your partner.
And also, men are really not that hard to please.
And according to studies, even a simple thank you, being grateful, can decrease the chances of a divorce.
The University of Georgia did a report on this and they said, we found that feeling feeling appreciated and believing that your spouse values you directly influences how you feel about your marriage, how committed you are to it and the belief that it will last.
Importantly, we found that when couples are engaging in a negative conflict pattern like demand, withdrawal, expressions of gratitude and appreciation can counteract or buffer the negative effects of this type of interaction on marriage stability.
Now, obviously, This does not mean that if you are in a terrible marriage, if you have a deadbeat spouse, if you are angry, if you are in an abusive situation, that all you need to do is be grateful and everything will be fine.
That is not what I'm saying at all.
That is not reasonable.
But if you are in a wonderful marriage with somebody that you love and you are going through a hard time, if you are dealing with the normal parts of being a complex human that has to live with another complex human and you are going through the daily happenings of that, then just being grateful and having a decent amount of respect can go a long way.
And like I said at the beginning, we can look at all the women that we talked about today.
We can laugh at them, we can cringe, we can be embarrassed, but we can still learn from them.
We can learn what not to do.
That's why I think it's so important to look at them critically and to know that the Jada Pinkett Smiths and the Megan Markles and the Michelle Obamas, the Chrissy Teigens, the, oh my gosh, Nicola, who married into the Beckham family.
You look at these, you know, huge personalities, these celebrities that we're supposed to look up to and try to emulate that are inspirations.
And you should not think that they are normal or healthy, that there is something better.
So I encourage you to look through that, look for better influences, and just try to be grateful.
That's for men and women.
Have gratitude.
Do not shame your partner in public just because it is popular, because it is cool, because it can get you 14 clicks on social media.
I promise, for the sake of your relationship, for the sake of your marriage, it is not worth it.