It's Liberation Day! + The Wisconsin Aftermath

Hey everybody, we fell short in Wisconsin. What is Congress doing exactly? We asked the question and then Senator Mark Wayne Mullen tries to answer that here on the Charlie Kirk Show.
Ellie Mistal, an anti-white activist, is gaining steam and we respond to his latest comments. That and more.
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Last evening was election day, election night, and we saw the results. We won both of the special elections in Florida, which was terrific.
And we fell over 10 points short in the state of Wisconsin. Our Turning Point Action team worked very, very hard.
We were outspent, outgunned, outmanned. But they did their very best.
But we still fell dramatically short. We are a low-prop party.
We are the party of welders, electricians. We're a party that is younger.
and the older you go up the ladder, actually the more and more they're moving in the Democrat direction. The older you are, the more likely you are to vote.
The welter you are, the more likely you are to vote. And both those things now are more likely to go in the Democrat direction.
Yesterday, Crawford defeated Brad Schimmel in the Wisconsin Supreme Court off your special election. That means Democrats now control the Wisconsin Supreme Court with a 4-3 majority.
They're going to now get rid of two congressional seats in Wisconsin, which means that we'll have a much harder time winning the House of Representatives in 2026. They will also work very hard to repeal voter ID laws, even though there was a passage of a voter ID measure last evening, a little bit of a silver lining.
The voter integrity laws are going to get heavily eroded by this Wisconsin Supreme Court. Also, issues such as men in female locker rooms.
We covered in great detail a 16-year-old 200-pound man who is in a female locker room, and these young girls are forced to undress next to him while he is rubbing his genitals, and they get punished, and they get kicked out of class because they are not sensitive enough or accepting enough to be around a naked 200 pound boy who very well might be masturbating next to them. It's a true story happening right there in southern Wisconsin.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court very well might come in and rule. The girls must be subject to that humiliation ritual.
So these elections matter. But even though these elections matter, turnout was not nearly high enough amongst Republicans and Trump supporters.
Lower propensity voters, the people that showed up in massive numbers for President Trump, many of whom decided to embrace the couch instead of the ballot, even though voting takes five to 10 minutes and you can fill out a ballot or go to a voting station or a voting center near you, many of whom decided to stay at home. Now, I'm not even here to criticize the people who did not show up to vote.
I think you made a big mistake. But honestly, the fact you went and voted for Donald Trump back in November shows that you can vote, shows that you can get off the couch.
Instead, I want to examine what we need to do as a party in a movement to motivate people. You see, President Trump was able to motivate people.
Your local congressman is not able to motivate people. A Supreme Court seat, your average welder says, why do I care about the Supreme Court seat? It's too abstract.
It's too wonky. It's too distant.
Where a hyper-college-educated, NPR-listening, New York Times-subscribing voter understands with great detail how this all plays together in a broader chess game to turn the country to the left, to make the country more progressive. Politics is an afterthought for many of our Trump supporters.
They have common sense and American values, but they are voters who must be chased. And President Trump did so much of that work for us.
And of course, we accompanied that work at Turning Point Action. Democrats have become the college indoctrinated, institutionalized and government dependent high prop party.
They live for politics. Politics is their religion.
You may hate President Trump, but he resurrected a dead GOP back to life. Voters who weren't on anyone's data rolls came out of the woodwork to vote for President Trump.
Our ideas are better, and they're actually very popular, but we need to match like for like. We need to out-organize Democrats, and we need to

match their fundraising advantage. That's a huge problem.
And I certainly hope Kash Patel and Dan

Bongino do the work to look into the suspicious activity associated to Act Blue. Andy Biggs,

congressman from Arizona, who's also running for governor of Arizona, wrote the Act Blue letter

to Kash Patel asking for a criminal investigation into Act Blue. I certainly hope that happens.
But looking even more broadly and taking a step back, most voters need to see more action from Congress. Now, I get it.
There's a filibuster. I totally understand it.
I understand that it's hard to pass bills. But Congress needs to get into gear.
Congress needs to show real results to the conservative base, not just performative congressional hearings. We need to get down into the basics and the details.
And we need to start passing bills that will improve the livelihood of the American people. President Trump can only do so much.
And we are seeing the southern border completely secured.

The greatest success story so far of President Trump's second term is undoubtedly the southern border. It is crickets on the southern border.
The invasion is over. People don't even think about it anymore because it is done.
Mass deportations are going very well. We need to get those numbers up even more.
The economy, we're not really sure where it's going yet. We got the tariff news, and we're keeping our eyes on that.
That is Liberation Day. But I have all the confidence that President Trump will be able to drill baby drill and be able to liberate the economy from the prior hostage taking.
But we need to prove that when people go out of their way to vote for Republicans, we deliver. When they vote for Republicans, we need to prove that Republicans deliver.
Trump is delivering. But voters tell us every single day when we knock on their door in Wisconsin, they say, well, Trump is fighting for me, but Congress is not.
So Congress needs to get off their tail

right now and start to prove to the American people that they are fighting for us. It is now April 2nd.
We are nearing the 100th day of President Trump's second term. Other than the Lake and Riley Act and a debt ceiling hike, what has Congress done so far? Now, unfortunately, the house is out of session right now.

I think that's crazy.

I understand the argument where, hey, we had to go fill those two Florida House seats to be able to pass this big, massive 100-day reconciliation bill. The Senate only gets two reconciliation bills this year.
We get two bites at the apple. The last Congress was basically the least productive ever.
But this might break the record. And I'm telling you right now, Mike Johnson and John Thune and anybody in Congress, the midterms will go the way of Wisconsin in the entire country if you don't start passing meaningful legislation.
In the past, Congress has been unable to pass anything besides spending bills, and we might fall short of that. This is Speaker Johnson talking about how a handful of Republicans just joined every House Democrat to take down a rule.
Now, I don't want to get too deep into this. This is

about remote proxy voting. I don't even know all the details surrounding it.
I'm very much against

remote voting. If you can't go be in person to do the job, then don't be a member of Congress.

I know the counter argument is, look, Anna Paulina, who obviously is amazing, and Kat Kamek are having

children. And don't you want to accommodate their ability to vote and also be with their kids? Of course I do.
But you got to make a choice. You have to go be with your kids or you have to go serve in Congress.
If Congress can vote by proxy, we might as well abolish Congress. Give them offices in their district and they'll never meet together.
There are constitutional questions around it. And because of this situation that unfolded this week, Congress is adjourned.
And we're not going to see any results this week because of it. Play cut 209.
Well, it's a very disappointing result on the floor there. A handful of Republicans joined with all the Democrats to take down a rule.
That's rarely done. It's very unfortunate in this case.
96% of House Republicans voted against proxy voting because they believe it's unconstitutional and they agreed that it would open a Pandora's box. And so that's what we just saw.
Let me just make this clear. That rule being brought down means that we can't have any further action on the floor this week.
That means we will not be voting on the SAVE Act for election integrity. We will not be voting on the rogue judges who are attacking President Trump's agenda.
We will not be taking down these terrible Biden policies with the CRA votes. All that was just wiped off the table.
It's very unfortunate. We'll regroup and come back and we'll have to do this again.
So Congress is now

out of session because of a dispute about remote voting. Look, of course, we support moms and we support people to raise their kids, but you got to choose either raise your children or serve your constituency in Congress.
Maybe try to do both. Maybe bring your kids to Congress.
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So right now, Congress is not in session.

Think of all the things Congress should be doing right now.

Abolish the Department of Education.

Ratify Trump's personnel cuts. Make more spending cuts to the waste, fraud, and abuse that Doge has found, and that's just spending.
Extend Trump's tax cuts, create no tax on tips, and that's on revenue. And within the legislation, as long as it's primarily spending, you could potentially include small pieces of additional lawmaking.
What if Congress gave more money to Border patrol, affirm that Trump's interpretation immigration laws is correct, or to cut off some of the lawsuits against the administration's deportations? I forget sometimes, do we control Congress right now or does Hakeem Jeffries control Congress? Do we control the United States Senate? Now, John Thune deserves some credit. The personnel selection and confirmation in front of the Senate has been going well.
John Thune, you've been proving some people wrong, and I'm happy to acknowledge it. You've whipped your votes.
We got Tulsi. We got Bobby.
Good on you, John Thune. Mike Johnson, I got to tell you, I'm in full agreement with you on the Anna Paulina Luna thing.
Anna Paulina is a great friend of mine. She's a Turning Point alumni.
I think she's totally off base here. We're going to just get proxy voting.
You might as well just eliminate Congress. And it now has triggered a closure of Congress for this week.
But we can have disagreements. It's all spirited.
It's good. And by the way, since we're not, Congress is doing nothing else, just the Senate should become an assembly line for every Trump nominee.
Fill every judicial slot and fill every appointed position by July 4th. Just get it done.
Stay in session on a Saturday to get more appointees in. Do you know? I don't know if you guys knew this, but in the Constitution, it doesn't say you're not allowed to work on a weekend.
I know. I know it's like a shocking revelation because Congress almost never works on a weekend.
You know how many of you in this audience have had to work in weekends? I know so many of you right now that are watching and listening. I'm positive many of you have had to work weekends to feed your family.
Pull a double-double, a double shift of an overnight, a graveyard shift to be able to pay your kids tuition. And yet Congress adjourns because they have a little disagreement.
Do you know that Congress skips most Fridays just to fly home? Just to be able to go home and raise more money and do absolutely nothing. It is time for Congress to lean in.
One of the major reasons that we lost in Wisconsin is that there is a disconnect for the Trump voter between what Trump is doing and what the Republican Party is doing. And we have to close that disconnect.
Congress, you guys have got to get off your tail and start passing bills. You have two reconciliation packages you can pass this year.
And allow me to just tell you more ideas of what you should do. Heavily fund Border Patrol.
Give ICE what they need. Fortify the wall.
Cut all the waste that Doge has found. Extend the Trump tax cuts.
Pass the largest working class tax cut in history. We want a party that is as conservative as its voters.
Voters are not going to keep on rewarding Republicans with more House and Senate majorities if they are not going to fight and if they're not going to keep Congress open and if they're not going to pass bills that are in alignment with what the American people voted for and what they want. And we still have a lot of opportunity.
There is time left on the clock. These two reconciliation bills could turbocharge the economy, could bring inflation down, which it's already starting to go down.

Price of X is going down.

And we could see the new golden era, the new golden age.

President Trump has signed executive order after executive order after executive order.

He needs some reinforcements from Congress.

And we need to use our new coalition to reach out to the low propensity voter, the Maha voter.

Let's play cut 204.

And for the Republicans, you know, it's a party of low propensity voters now. And so did any of them actually show up in any of these races in Florida or Wisconsin? Or was it largely they just kept doing what they've been doing, which is showing up for Donald Trump and nothing else? In Florida, Democrats burned about $20 million on two congressional campaigns where both Republicans look like they're going to get around 57% of the vote.
Wisconsin, the voter ID initiative that Donald Trump was heavily involved in, last I saw it was passing at about a rate of 60-40, and voter ID is still a popular thing. There's a bunch of people that voted for a liberal Supreme Court justice and turned around and voted voter ID tonight in Wisconsin.
Our conservative values win when they're on the ballot. Affirmative action loses when it's on the ballot in California.
DEI loses when it's on the ballot. Voter ID wins when it's on the ballot.
Our ideas overwhelmingly win outside of marijuana and abortion, but gun rights win when it's on the ballot. School choice

wins when it's on the ballot. Right to work wins when it's on the ballot.
Border security wins when it's on the ballot. Our ideas are very popular, but the Republicans in Congress, you guys better get your act together.
Enough chatter, enough interviews. I told Andrew, no more people in Congress on the show.
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I promise I'm not contradicting myself. I will make an exception to what I said before we signed off.
I said no more members of Congress on the show until they do their job, but we're going to have a great man who's a senator who's doing a great job on the show. Joining us now is the great senator from Oklahoma, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.
And by the way, I meant the house. We'll still have senators on.
Senator, great to see you. It was great to meet your kids yesterday at Oklahoma State University in Stillwater, which really is the wrestling capital of the world.
I want to talk a non-political thing for a second here, Senator, and I'm trying to have Ryan pull the tape. Can you, for our audience, inform them how remarkable of a victory it was for Wyatt at the NCAA championship? I mean, you're a wrestler yourself.
I mean, it was one of the most amazing upsets in wrestling history. Just kind of your thoughts here, Senator.
Yeah. So I'll have to, I have to, I mean, I know you're not that familiar with

wrestling, but Dan Gable, 1970 upset, the famed coach from Iowa was probably the biggest upset.

He was undefeated, lost his very last match, undefeated ever, never lost a match in his life.

He lost the finals in 1970. That's probably for most true wrestling fans, that's probably the

biggest upset, but Wyatt Henderson, he was, that was the largest upset in our lifetime. I mean, Gable Stevenson was just presumable to, it was presumed to win.
I mean, Olympic champion, uh, undefeated, uh, NCAA wrestler, two-time national champion, uh, got, got drafted into the NFL, went and left college to go to WWE, just a heck of an athlete. And to see if you understood the backstory of Wyatt, keep in mind, the academies, they don't have a fifth-year senior.
So the idea that he was able to wrestle his fifth year was remarkable to begin with. And I'll tell you, we had to work with the Secretary of Air Force closely to do that.
I got to Wyatt two years earlier, and the president met him two years earlier in Tulsa when he was at the NCAA tournament with us. And I told them then, I said, Wyatt can be a national champion.
He'll be the greatest recruiter that Air Force have had if you'll just allow us to have his orders moved to the WCAP program rather than being moved to Florida and start his career as a second lieutenant. And then to see the president of the United States there with him.
Now, my two boys that you met yesterday, they're 125-pounder and 133-pounder for Oklahoma State. So they wrestle with Wyatt.
Wyatt lived here in the summer. But to see him win with the president of the United States there is why it says the my boss's boss's boss and then to win in that fashion and stand up and salute the president United States that was epic remarkable that's why the dude is called Captain America and you met him he's a freak of a special he truly is and just one more point on this understand who who he defeated.
He defeated, I can't remember his name, from Minnesota. Abel Sevis.
Yeah, won two national championships before. Has not even been taken down since 2019.
Tried to go to the NFL. Tried to go to the WWE and came back.
And then Wyatt upset him. It's one of the more amazing things I've ever seen.
Plus an Olympic champion. He won the Olympics.
He won the gold medal. Yeah, minor detail.
He is the Olympic champion, the gold medal recipient. Just remarkable.
So speaking of wrestling tough things down, what is the plan right now in Congress to get the reconciliation bill passed? How do you like that for a segue, Senator? Yeah, so we have to get budget done, and people are going to freak out about the budget, but the budget is just the vehicle to move on to reconciliation. People want to know how we're going to get all the doge cuts.
You can't get doge cuts through the budget. The reconciliation is where the doge cuts come in, so we got to get the budget passed first, and the budgets are going to be different between the House and between the Senate.
Because of this ridiculous thing called the Byrd Rule that we have to fit things into, the House, they don't have to deal with it. So as an example, they can walk through an open garage.
We have to close the garage door and break the glass out at the top of the garage door and crawl through the window because of the crazy Byrd Rule we have to deal with through reconciliation. So we're going to do the voter- Friday or Saturday, Friday night or Saturday, start at Saturday, which is just where the Democrats put all these ridiculous amendments on there.
People are concerned about the cuts. Mind you, the big differences you're going to have between the House budget and the Senate budget is taxes.
So the tax plan underneath the House one is they're going over current law, tax law, meaning current law, meaning that all the taxes are going to expire. All the TCGA, what is it? TCGA, whatever.
The President Trump's tax package from 2017, TCGA, I think is what it's old TC. Yeah the Tax Cutting Jobs Act.
Yes. That was, what they're wanting to do is they're going to say that, hey, the tax law is going to expire.
We're going to add it back on and then we're going to extend it for eight years. What we're saying is that, no, we're not going to say it's going to expire.
We're going to have current tax policy. We're going to keep the current tax level in place and then we're going to make it permanent so it never expires.
Then they have $1.5 trillion in cuts over 10 years. Our target is $2 trillion in cuts.
Now, if you read the budget, which we will be releasing probably tomorrow, it will talk about billions, but billions is on top of making the tax cuts permanent, but because we have to go through the Byrd rule, we have, and I know this is getting wonky, we have to put instructions to the committees on what they're supposed to do. Once we get those instructions, then we set the target date.
But we can't do that until after we get the budget passed through reconciliation, then we actually do the target

of what we expect each committee to actual cut.

Our target is $2 trillion.

What Rick Scott is wanting to do is up to $10 trillion,

which probably isn't feasible for us to do,

but we'll land somewhere in between there.

So by the time we're done with reconciliation,

we'll cut more than the House budget is,

but you just have to be patient with us and make sure that we can get the budget passed.

Because without the budget passed, we can never get to reconciliation to begin with.

So I now want to talk about tariffs.

Yesterday I got a lot of questions about tariffs from the Oklahoma faithful saying it's going to hurt farmers and ranchers and the ag business.

What is your take on tariffs, Liberation Day, and how it affects the great people in the Great Plains and the Midwest of this country? Well, first of all, people support President Trump and understand President Trump is not looking at this like a politician. The reason why we've allowed these countries to take advantage of us is because no one had the stones to stand up to these other countries and quit letting them take advantage of us.
We understand that President Trump is looking at this as long-term, not just to the next election, but long-term. So that's our future economy.
We're talking about a generational change in our economy. For the last 40 years, we've allowed, actually the last six years, we've allowed countries to take advantage of our true economy, which is the strongest and the best economy in the world.

And what we've done is made these other countries rich.

China wouldn't exist if they didn't have access to us.

The president is saying it's time to right the wrong.

So, yes, there's going to be a little short-term gain or short-term pain, but it's going to be a long-term gain for us in our economy because the president understands the economy better than any other president out there.

So let's talk about what's going to happen. When we start talking about reciprocal tariffs, not just tariffs that are one for one.
For instance, I use Japan for this. Japan has zero tariffs on American manufactured vehicles going into Japan.
However, you cannot actually buy an American-made vehicle in Japan because of their rules. So even though they have zero tariffs, you cannot find a single dealership in Japan that sells Fords and Chevys.
But we have Japan vehicles driving all over our country. So what the president is saying, reciprocal means, not only do you have the same tariff level, but we have the same access to your economy.
If you want access to us, we're going to have access to you. If you want free trade with us and free access to our economy, we want free trade with you and access to your economy too, because we know that America can compete and actually beat any other country out there on manufacturing goods.
So we're in for farmers and ranchers. Charlie, I'm a rancher, generational rancher.
We've been in our land raising cattle since 18 since 1840s. Is the market great? No.
Is it wonderful right now? No. But you can talk to any farmer and any rancher out there right now.
They're tired of countries like Brazil and like Canada and even Mexico that are subsidizing their farmers and giving them access to our market, which is driving down our prices. So the Liberation Day will ensue, and I agree with everything you just said.
Final question here, Senator, and I want to make sure we dive into this. The part of the reconciliation package is going to be a domestic tax cut that will make it extremely attractive for foreign investment to come to this country.
Talk about how two of those two things work in harmony together. Well, you got to have regulation reform because regulation can be be a tax on the consumer too, and tax on the manufacturer.
So if we have zero taxes on manufacturers, and we have high regulations, it doesn't make any difference. But the world, the developed world average for taxes on corporations, 15%, we're sitting at 21%.
Yet people still want to do business with us, because they want to have access to our economy. So we have to, we got to hold the taxes for corporations at where they're at.
We can't increase. Like Chip Roy wants to increase corporate tax rates.
We can't do that because we still got to be competitive. At the same time, we've got to have labor tax rates that are actually favorable too.
The Democrats are out there saying that we're going to raise, or we're going to cut taxes for billions, for billionaires and millionaires, all of Donald Trump's buddies, which is false. Because we're saying we're going to hold tax policy where it currently is, but we're going to deregulate these industries that have been stifled and which has caused them to move out of our country and go into a more favorable regulatory environment and then sell the product back to us.
So the president is looking at twofold. One, make taxes permanent.
So then they're not just simply planning on a four-year or eight-year term. They actually have a long-term term.
So we're going to make taxes permanent. We're going to have actually friendly environmental regulations.
We're going to have an environmental or a regulatory environment that's going to be conducive to stability in the market without hurting our economy and without hurting our environment. And we're going to streamline it so you know that you can get it built without having to worry about it.
That's because we have a president in the office that understands business and he understands what it takes to bring manufacturing back. So that's why you're already seeing all these companies that are saying, hey, we're investing in you.
I had a country the other day call me that they're wanting a very wealthy Middle East country that I've actually became very good friends with the president there that has said that they're willing to put $1.4 trillion into the U.S. economy.
We're going to see an infusion of money, the likes of which we've never seen. Senator, thank you.
We've got to run. Great to see you, Senator.
Thanks so much. And I'm sorry to keep you late for your next meeting.
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If you want to have a picture and a window and a reminder of what we are up against and what your kids are learning in public schools and when you send them to college,

I'm going to play you a piece of tape.

This guy's name is Ellie Mistal.

Ellie Mistal kind of looks like Eddie Murphy from that one movie. I'm trying to remember which one it is.
Anyway, he's a clown of a philosopher. Nevertheless, if you send your child to college, they are learning this worldview.
When you go to college, this is the worldview that you have to go into debt to learn.

This is the predominant viewpoint amongst many Democrat circles. And he's taken very seriously

on the view. Listen, oh yeah, he's a very serious person.
And it's outright race hatred. Play cut

217. One of the laws you write about is playing out right now, the Immigration and Nationality

Act. What do you make of the administration's use of the act? And more broadly, is

We'll be right back. Play cut 217.
One of the laws you write about is playing out right now, the Immigration and Nationality Act. What do you make of the administration's use of the act? And more broadly, is Trump really setting up a First Amendment showdown, which is what Whoopi's been talking about? Every law passed before the 1965 Voting Rights Act should be presumptively unconstitutional, right? Because before the 1965 Voting Rights Act, we were functionally an apartheid country.
Not everybody who lived here could vote here. So why should I give about some law that some old white man passed in the 1920s? Look, plain and simple.
He hates the country. It's easy to say, oh, you know, white men abolish slavery.
Hilariously, though, for Ellie Mistal, you got to wonder, hey, pal, would you also get rid of the fifth, and 7th Amendment? But it's much deeper than that. He has disgust and disdain for this nation.
He and his Democrat friends want to get rid of it and build a replacement on the ashes. And that replacement will be far worse.
A huge amount of the left is just pure, unadulterated resentment. What he can't deny is that America has been insanely successful from the very beginning.
Hugely accomplished. The greatest nation in the history of the world.
Elie Mistal could never accomplish the things that the greatest Americans did. Having to read about it traumatizes him.
He's a loser, a J.B. Pritzker type, whose entire career is being a race grifter.
He probably makes plenty of money, but it's humiliating. And the dark truth is there's a lot of people like Miss Dahl.
A lot of people who immigrate to this country while holding nothing but resentment in their hearts. In March 2022, he actually said the United States Constitution is trash.
He said, quote, We act like this thing that was enacted in stone by the finger of God, when actually it was hotly contested and debated, scrub out over a couple weeks in the summer of Philadelphia in 1787, with a bunch of rich white politicians making deals with each other. Why is it that they hate Elon so much and they hate President Trump so much? Well, it's because they are wealthy white men.
It's because they are the archetype of everything that they are told to hate. What's hilarious about his critique is that the Constitution was actually scrawled out over a summer, and despite that, it's vastly better than anything Mistal could ever write, and the Constitution was not written for the times.
It was written to stand the test of time. The Constitution has always been the envy of the world.
It is a massive human advancement. The hashed-out compromises of Madison and Hamilton live eternally because they understood human nature.
They understood natural law. They knew that our rights come from God, not from government.
They were a gift of providence and secured by the blood of the revolutionary generation. it's important to play tapes and clips like this to remind you what we defeated in November and what we are up against because the enemy is coming back to the gates.
And Elie Mistal, he can't run very fast, but he can certainly talk very loud. People like him, they want to get your children and to groom them.
They want to turn this country and eliminate it and burn it to the

ground, and we will not let them. Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.