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Email us freedom at charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast. Joining us now is Sean Spicer, host of the Sean Spicer Show, great man and great American.
Sean, welcome to the program. Sean, what is your take on this entire Signal chat story? I use Signal a lot.
You've used Signal a lot. Something here does not add up.
Either Mike Waltz is totally lying or Signal was compromised by the CIA. One or the other.
Which is it? Yeah, well, look, I mean, keep in mind. So there's there's a few things to this story that need to be taken care of because the media and the Democrats are taking this and blowing everything up and using terms that, frankly, with all due respect, they have no right.
I mean, they have no understanding of when they throw out words like war plan classified. Those might be words in, but they actually have meaning.
Right. So there are operational plans called O plans.
They're sensitive, classified, or confidential, secret, top secret. The first thing that we got to get out of the way is that clearly from what John Radcliffe, the CIA director said yesterday, signal is an authorized platform.
The second issue is what was being discussed. Was it classified or not? I trust the folks, you know, the CIA director, the DNI director, to determine that more than a bunch of lefty media types that have no experience in this.
And then the third thing is what you're talking about, Charlie, which is how does Jeffrey Goldberg get into this chat? Now, Mike Waltz, as you said, or alluded to, he's admitted, he went on Laura Ingraham last night and said, I'm the guy who created this group chat. But how did he get in his phone book, right? And that's where I think the big issue is, is that Waltz said last night, I don't know.
Now, here's the deal. When I first met Jeffrey Goldberg, I called to yell at him in the 2016, 2017 transition because his publication had this gadfly, horrible person named Julia Offey who wrote a disgusting and despicable story about Ivanka Trump.
And I called to yell at him and said, hey, I know we've never met, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So he's in my phone.
So I went to Signal and I said, okay, let me kind of recreate this. How would he? Signal imports all of your contacts that are in your phone to the thing.
So one has to assume either Mike Waltz, and by the way, Jeffrey Goldberg admits that he's only met Waltz maybe once, maybe twice, several years ago. And that's Washington for you.
Hey, I was at an event. We were at a forum.
We crossed paths. But how did his number end up in his phone book? Because Walt says, I don't know.
I've never talked to him. That's the question that I think is important here.
Because there's a lot of theories. You think about this.
The US trade rep is Jameson Greer, JG. So if you're looking down initials in your phone book, you mistakenly get the wrong JG, not Jeffrey Goldberg, Jameson Greer, bring him in.
Okay. But how did he end up in the phone book in the first place, in his list of contacts? And that's where I think the Waltz team is saying, hey, we're asking the tech folks to look at this because you're right.
At some point, this is going to come out. Right.
It's did you personally add him in or did somebody else do it? But there's only two ways that that can happen. Right.
And so other than that, or something even more nefarious happened, like the intel agencies hacked this group chat, which is a very low probability. But let's just play some of the statements from Mike Waltz, his denials.
I mean, outright denials saying that Waltz claims a staffer did not put his contact in. Let's play cut 232.
So a staffer did not put his contact information in. But how did it end up in your phone? That's what we're trying to figure out.
But that's a pretty big problem. That is what we've got the best technical minds, right? That's disturbing.
And that's where, I mean, I'm sure everybody out there has had a contact where it was said one person and then a different phone number. But you've never talked to him before, so how's the number on your phone? I mean, I'm not an expert on any of this, but it's just curious.
How's the number on your phone? Well, if you have somebody else's contact and then somehow it gets sucked in. Oh, someone sent you that contact.
It gets sucked in. Was there someone else supposed to be on the chat that wasn't on the chat that you thought was on the chat? So the person that I thought was on there was never on there it was who was that's what person well i'm not look laura i take i i take responsibility i built the i built the group i mean i'm sorry sean getting sucked in i i'm i use signal all the time i have no idea what he's talking about here well that's that's why i thought what was weird is that like so i get that like that that so what he's all's alluding to is I have Charlie Kirk in my phone, but gosh, you know, instead of Charlie Kirk's phone number, I have, you know, Bob Smith.
And so I'm think I'm texting you. And that, that seems to be what he was saying.
Well, I don't get that. Right.
In other words, what he was saying is, and again, I'm just speculating, but JG, Jamison Greer, the U S trade rep, that would that would make sense. OK, so what he seems to be saying is I thought I was adding somebody to the text and it turns out that it was Jeffrey Goldberg's number.
Right. And my point is, OK, that still doesn't you still like no one goes like that's just it doesn't make sense.
I buy the fact that, yeah, hey, as a member of Congress, maybe his staff said, hey, we're going to upload some reporters to your phone so you can contact them before he assumed the direct. I could buy that.
Like, I didn't put them in. My staff used to program my phone.
Okay. But the idea that you thought you were contacting somebody else and their numbers were just transposed, I've never had that happen, right? I mean, that to me, and also just like, let's face it.
Jamison Greer just happens to have a one off phone number than Jeffrey Goldberg. This is where I hope he does get the best technical minds to look at this.
Right. And so the other thing about Signal, if you and I were to talk on Signal a lot, Sean, and I went to go create a new message and I put S in the people you you contact the most are elevated actually in the suggested and recommended the next contacts.
So in order for this to be true, somebody who added Jeffrey Goldberg, which Mike Waltz admitted he is the admin and he is the creator of the group, he must have had established contact with Jeffrey Goldberg, had to have. And so.
Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not as much of an expert on I've used signal, but my technical expertise is somewhat limited to on and off on most devices. That being said, I again, part of this doesn't like I've made mistakes.
I've added people to text chains that I didn't intend to. But but that's obvious.
Like my my someone the other day was my wife and I, and they got the wrong Rebecca, right? And immediately I'm like, who are you adding to this? No, no, no, I totally agree. But here's the issue, is that this wouldn't have been a scandal, whatever, it's not a scandal, if all of a sudden Mike Waltzman, like, look, we are moving too fast, I have all these old contacts in my congressional days, and I meant to add Jamon Greer, and I added Jeffrey Goldberg.
This is unbelievably embarrassing and humiliating. In the tech world, we all have this happen.
I'm so sorry. I take full responsibility.
But now Mike Waltz is making us speculate one of two things. Either he's a pathological liar, which I really don't want to believe.
That's the option one. Or number two is that signal is compromised and that our own intel agencies created a backdoor to be able to look at private government chats.
We are literally in a binary. There is no in between.
Yeah, yeah. So look, I agree with you.
So except, look, I've known Mike Waltz for a while. I think he is a man of high integrity he served his country honorably he's a brilliant guy when it comes to diplomacy he's an sf uh guy from the army that's my only issue that he chose the wrong service that being said to your point like again i admit like i yelled at jeffrey goldberg once because of this despicable story like i have no problem like to say yeah i got the guy in my contacts and i mistakenly added him when i meant to add so no for sure we all do it that's what i'm saying but the idea why not say that if that's what happened because then then you are begging the question of you're not right that's that's that's my point is that like yeah we all have people in our phone i've got some people in my phone that believe me i would never like because of you know to the people i've been in contact with over the 10 years, that I wouldn't ever want to call or contact.
But you don't delete the contact just because you hate them or they're despicable. I have Gavin Newsom's phone number.
I'm not going to add Gavin Newsom to our show group chat, okay? And if you did, by the way, Charlie, here's the point. If you did, you could say, God, we just did this podcast and I was coordinating with him.
And so it doesn't, right. It makes sense.
And so just say if that's the case, but otherwise you're absolutely right. There's got to be an explanation about why.
And here's the thing to your second point. Cause I think there's got to be a third, a third issue, which is some staffer did it.
Because if you're going to break into somebody's phone, are you really going to add Jeffrey Goldberg to the chain? I mean, I've got a list of people I'd rather add to a chain if I'm snooping or doing something than Jeffrey Goldberg. I'm not saying Mike Waltz is lying.
I'm saying what the binary has been created based on his public statements and his denials is one of two. And the second of which is there's some technical backdoor that the intel – is such a high threshold can't you believe that some staffer at some point added i mean i said that he didn't though he also said it wasn't my staffer either so he was denying that as well and that's where i'm but but but sean he's also acting like well we have the best technical minds on it he's alluding that this had a backdoor like.
Like, it doesn't take a technical mind. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no.
But here's the way I look at this. I have a belief, and I haven't asked the president this, but knowing the president's view of Jeffrey Goldberg, I think that's what pisses him off the most, that of all people that you did this to.
So if you have to explain it to him and you're talking to Donald Trump and you say, Mr. President, here's what happened and I don't know why.
And so here's my answer. I'm going to get the best technical mind to explain.
That's your way of at least being like, hey, I'm on it. Yeah, but I mean, it is dishonest, though.
And that's what I don't if that if that's correct. At the same time, I mean, it he's going on Laura Ingram saying, I never talked to him, never had communication.
I don't know who he is. I've never had all this.
I don't know how this happened. I hope that's, I hope it's not correct that the Intel agencies have the backdoor.
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Did anybody in this room ask the Biden? Joe Biden removed the Iran-backed Houthis from the foreign terrorist organization and specifically designated global terrorist list.

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But unfortunately, this is not what the Democrats and the media want to talk about. They are focused on a coordinated campaign to try and sow chaos in this White House.
And this has been the most successful first two months of any administration ever, which is exactly why they are doing this. We are not going to bend in the face of this insincere outrage.
And here's just one example of how bad faith the Democrats' criticisms are. Democrat Senator Mark Warner is hysterical over the use of Signal, which is an approved, decrypted app, in the killing of Houthi terrorists.
But Senator Warner himself used Signal to work with a lobbyist for a Russian oligarch to connect the disgraced Steele dossier author who started the Russia hoax, which Jeffrey Goldberg later reported on. How ironic.
We're not going to lose focus of the bottom line, which is that Joe Biden's weakness enabled and emboldened Houthi terrorists, and President Trump's strength and resolve eliminated those terrorists. Here in our new media seat today, we have Lindsay Keith.
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We're glad to have you with us, Lindsay. Please kick us off.
Thank you, Caroline. I appreciate it and this opportunity for Merit TV.
Two questions, if I may. One on Signal, one on the economy.
Sure. On Signal, how comfortable is the president with what was shared so far now that the chain has been released? The president's view on all of this remains the same today as it did yesterday.
And I think it speaks volumes about the leadership of this president that he went directly to all of you members of the press corps. He was asked, do you want someone else to go out and do a briefing? And he said, no, I will tackle this story.
I will discuss it. The people need to hear from me about the situation.
And so his thoughts on this remained the same today. He has placed great trust in his national security team.
And as for the usage of signal, as the president said yesterday, as the CIA director has testified under oath, this is an approved app. It's an encrypted app.
The Department of Defense, the Department of State, the CIA has it loaded onto government phones because it is the most secure and efficient way to communicate. As for, again, the original situation in this messaging thread, the National Security Council, the White House Counsel's Office continues to look in to how this mistake, which the National Security Advisor has owned, occurred.
And the president has ensured they are doing that. On the economy, consumer confidence hit a four-year low this month.
Can you help explain to the American people how tariffs will help them in the long run? Yeah, absolutely. And I'm grateful for the question.
The American public will hear later this afternoon from the president directly on the topic of tariffs. And as you all know, April 2nd day,

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Caroline Levitt is taking questions live

from the briefing room.

We can listen to that if we'd like.

However, let's see if it kind of escalates.

We have Sean Spicer.

Sean, I'm sure you saw some of the dialogue there. Your reaction.
Did we learn anything from Caroline Levitt's back and forth there? I don't think so. Not yet.
I mean, I think the bigger question right now, one, is about the discussion that we're having. What is the government doing to find out how this got added? Because that seems to be now the big question.
The second is, I think one of the issues that we need to also understand is, were these officials on their government phones or their personal phones? And that's what I thought would probably be coming out right off the bat. I try to tend to look at the Occam's razor.
Charlie, can I make a quick point? Because this goes back to the point you're making. If it was on a government phone, I think that raises the question about why Jeffrey Goldberg was in there in a very different way than if it was on Walt's personal phone, which he's probably had for 10 or 15 years or whatever he had during his tenure as a member of Congress.
If it's on his government phone, that brings up a whole new set of questions as to how Jeffrey Goldberg was able to be added. Because you can only add certain people that you would have assumed on a government phone that you had pre-populated.
Well, that's exactly right. And so I hate dwelling on this story too much, but it's only getting bigger and bigger.
And to be perfectly honest with you, Mike Waltz, who I've always gotten along with and I respect, made it bigger by going on Laura Ingram last night. By like the outright denials and saying we have a tech team looking into this.
I'll be honest, Sean, if you want my personal opinion, I think he just messed up and added him by mistake. I don't think the CIA has a backdoor to signal.
I don't think that there's some sort of clandestine thing. It's possible, but you're moving too fast.
You're doing too much stuff. I would have preferred just, oh my goodness, this is so embarrassing.
We're moving too fast. We're doing too much stuff.
And I get it. Yeah, the president wouldn't be happy with that, but I think the president's going to be 10 times angrier if he finds out that this has been some rigmarole and trying to have some tech team and we're going to have some sort of investigation.
When in reality, you press JG and you met jameson greer and it actually ended up jeffrey goldberg but then it's like wait a second why is that guy in your phone so i'm going to tell you this right now i don't think i know to your point like if you went to the president i and i say this as a guy who had to do that that if you go to the president say mr president i screwed up and I'm going to go fix it because I, you know, I serve at your pleasure. He is much more understanding than I think if you dig a hole and then have to go back to him.
So I hope to God, for the sake of Mike Walts, who I have the utmost respect for, that this is what happened. Because if you have to go back to the president and say, all right, let me tell you what really happened.
You know, he was there, that that's going to get a lot worse. And, and here's the, just from a PR standpoint.
And I made this point on the morning meeting this morning that I have on my YouTube channel every morning. That's look in a crisis.
It will only last about, it's like a fire after about 48 hours, if there's no new oxygen, it dies. The only way a crisis is perpetuated is if more oxygen comes into the room.
And to your point, every time that you speak, you go out there, and if your story doesn't lock it down further and push oxygen out of the room, but rather lets it in, it perpetuates the crisis. And this is what's happening now.
This should have been put to bed last night. But I think for a lot of reasons, they want to go out there and try to show that, you know, here's what's really going on.
And unfortunately, I think they're adding more oxygen to the room than they are taking it out. And you've got to give the Atlantic a little bit of credit in a really dark way.
They're using the Andrew Breitbart model, which is you don't release everything you have all at once. You do a drip.
You do a first sensationalist. And they baited the White House by saying, hey, if it's not, you know, first of all, I think Jeffrey Goldberg's full of crap.
He didn't hold back. Like knowing what we see now, I'm like, are you kidding me? This is what you said was so, you know, war plans.
Those aren't war plans. He's a liar.
And the bottom line is, is that he did it for clicks and sensationalism. And he was able to bait the White House to say, if it's not classified, let me know and I'll release it all.
It wasn't classified. And so he released it all.
And I think this is like Geraldo in the safe. You open it up and go, this is what you were saying.
Yeah, it's not great, but this is no big deal. I think that's right.
And you are correct. The story dies if you don't give it new oxygen.
Mike Waltz going on Laura Ingram, that gives it oxygen. And then the second and third drip of the text messages give it oxygen.
Sean, please plug your show or anything

else you'd like our audience to be aware of. You can go to my YouTube channel, Sean Spicer.
We do live 9 to 10 Eastern. And then tonight, we've got Ron Johnson at our show every night at six o'clock Eastern.
SeanSpicer.com is where you can get it all. But thank you, Charlie.
I appreciate that. Thank you, Sean.
Really appreciate it. Thank you.
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Connor, welcome to the program.

Thanks for having me, Charlie.

So, Connor, I want to use the lead-in of the flop, the multi-hundred million dollar flop that is Snow White. Disney decided to resurrect Snow White and spend a lot of money.
It had a terrible showing this last weekend. It turns out that millions of families do not want a repurposed, let's just say, modern take.

You could say it's woke, but it certainly is with the flair of the worst of modernity,

of a beautiful story that existed well over 100 years ago.

You at the Tuttle Twins, you are the author and you are the brainchild of the Tuttle Twins,

are having a lot of success getting down to fundamental truths and speaking in a way to families that appeal to them. Tell us more about the Tuttle Twins.
Well, I think you're right. There's been a lot of pushback from parents with Snow White.
This is just the latest of a long series of pushback that we've seen. I'm actually very hopeful that we're seeing a lot of families stepping up and saying, no, we don't want that stuff in our home.
What parents have lacked in past years are resources that can help them teach their children good ideas, good principles that aren't being shared in the schools. They're not being shared on social media.
And so fundamentally what the Tuttle Twins books are, are a resource for parents to read alongside with their kids, simple and fun stories that introduce the ideas of human flourishing. We're talking about the power of entrepreneurship, the importance of personal freedom, why merit is so important, right? Property rights, free markets, the ideas upon which America was built, but increasingly in America's schools, not only are these ideas not taught, if ideas like them are taught, they're quite opposite ideas.
And parents then wonder as their kids march off to college, how did my child turn into this brainwashed social justice warrior? Well, it's because you haven't engaged your children's minds when they were younger. And that's what Tuttle Twins is trying to do to help parents engage their children with these ideas in a simplified, fun way so that they then go out to college or

get on with their life. They've got a foundation of true principles to rest on.
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I'm going to buy a bunch of these for my kids. Finding good kids books is very, very hard.
In fact, we went to Barnes & Noble recently, and our daughter just loves buying all the books. And it's very funny.
She has great instincts. She went up to one of the books, and it was like a homosexual couple.
And she looked at it. She said, that's not right.
And she put it back down. It was kind of like, we want you to be gay.
And this is a kid's book. I mean, again, everyone in the audience, kind of your own views of marriage.
But for a kid to have to be forced upon, her intuition is amazing. And so talk about how you are incorporating these beautiful ideas, liberty, family-friendly, non, let's just say, pornographic elements in a way that kids actually want to read it.
This is not a textbook. This is not just giving them Milton Friedman's capitalism and freedom, but it is those ideas distilled in a digestible way for a child.
Well, I think you raise an interesting point with your personal story that children are being bombarded with these types of ideas now. And when we started doing the Tuttle Twins in 2014, is when we published our first book, we had a lot of conservatives and libertarians and others say, wait, wait, let kids be kids.
We don't need to talk to them about these big adult ideas. We can wait until they're getting close to voting age.
And so we got pushback even from our own tribe for doing children's books talking about these big adult ideas. Of course, going through the crazy BLM and DEI and all the stuff that we have

in the past few years, nobody on our side talks that way anymore because they see what the left is doing, that they have just this cacophony of content that they're pushing out, whether it's cartoons or books or online stuff. And so now I think increasingly parents recognize, whoa, my children's mind is like ground zero in a

ideological battlefield. And if I don't give my child armor and weaponry and knowledge of the

enemy, then my child will become a casualty. And so we live in a world where we can't just assume

that we can talk to our kids later about these ideas. We need to engage them.
Frankly, we need

to compete for their hearts and minds because they're being attracted and exposed by so many hostile ideas. Parents often have been caught in a trap because I'll tell you, Charlie, the biggest problem we run into is freedom-loving moms and dads who do want their kids to learn these ideas, but they, the parents, feel ill-equipped to explain and teach these ideas to their kids.
They feel the parents increasingly that, well, I don't know how to talk to my kids about economics or history. I did bad at that subject in school, right? 20 years ago.
And so that's where the Tuttle Twins come in. We say, you don't have any prerequisites.
You don't need to know this stuff. Just read some fun storybooks with your kids.
We got some discussion questions at the end so that you can have amazing conversations. I think you'll resonate with this, Charlie.
I, as a passionate lover of freedom here in America, I don't feel that we're gonna save our country at the Capitol. I don't feel that we're gonna save our country in the courtroom, even though we ought to engage in both those places.
I think that if we're gonna save our country, it's at the family dinner table. We have to rebuild social fabric.
We have to model for our children what civic engagement looks like, what critical thinking looks like. And to do that, we have to empower parents to do this on the daily, in their home, in that environment where we can incubate strong entrepreneurial, critical thinking minds that can be the future

of saving our country. And over 6 million copies sold.
Just talk about what you are, the author of the Tuttle Twins. How did you conceptualize all of this? There are so many different, let's just say, sister or cousin equivalents, the Hardy Boys.
I mean, typical ideas of, you know, duos that go about life and this kind of adventure. How did you bring this from idea into reality? Well, my partner, Elijah, who's the illustrator of our books, he and I both had young kids at the time.
And we are very passionate about freedom. And he had been working on like the Ron Paul campaign and I had been helping and we had been talking about like, hey, maybe there's an opportunity at some point to partner together.
Meanwhile, you know, I started a think tank Libertas Institute and I'm out there fighting for freedom. And, and I wanted to share with my kids what dad does, you know, when I'm helping this farmer fight eminent domain so he can save his land.
How do I tell my five-year-old what dad did all day, right? Rather than, oh, I typed on a computer and simple stuff. I wanted to teach the substantive ideas, albeit at a simple level.
So I did what any dad would do in my position. I literally went on Amazon and I said, books that teach about property rights for kids, right? Children's books about free markets.
Keep in mind, this is 2013. There was nothing.
So as you point out, there's other children's series for adventure and ideas like kindness and honesty. But for economic ideas, civic and political ideas, historical stuff, there really was nothing.
And so that was the spark. Elijah and I did a book.
We had no vision of what it's become. It was just something we wanted for our kids.
A lot of people bought it. They said, when are you doing the second one? A series was born.
And frankly, things didn't really explode until COVID with all the craziness that happened. Suddenly families were like, what's happening to my country? You know, all the freedoms that I guess I've been taking for granted are now under assault.
And also I'm now a homeschooler apparently because all the schools are shut down. And so that was Tuttle Twins' big moment to really break through and start selling a million books plus per year.
So let's go through just an onslaught of the type of books that kids have to experience. For example, there's this one, Shay-Ra and the Princess of Power.
This one is, quote, why we love it. This is a Netflix series.
It's not a book. It's a Netflix series.
It's a cartoon. By the way, parents, conservative parents are unknowingly allowing their kids to watch this stuff.
This goes through the family filter, because sometimes they'll say this is just a kid's account. Has there ever been a gayer, more inclusive cartoon than Shay-Ra and the Princesses of Power.
The series was created by trans artist N.D. Stevenson, and it shows.
The show explores queer love, queer struggle, and the ultimate queer joy. Adora and Katra share one of the most epic love stories set to screen, and they're surrounded by a literal rainbow of compelling, unapologetically queer and trans characters.
We only wish there were more seasons. The list continues.
There's multiple series like this. I guess SpongeBob is now gay, apparently, according to this list.
Is this like the gayest list? Is that what we're looking at here? 55 total shows. SpongeBob, the misadventures of the talking sea sponge, works at a fast food restaurant.
Why we love it, quote, SpongeBob has always been gay in our hearts. I mean, he, Patrick, and their little kiddo, Gary, are pretty much queer fam goals.
Then in 2020, SpongeBob came out of the sea closet and is now canonically queer, available on Prime, which many parents allow them to watch. People can also find the Tuttle Twins via Angel.
How can they watch the Tuttle Twins as well? Yeah, so we have the books I've been talking about that have sold 6 million copies. We also have a cartoon with Angel Studios.
It's free to watch. You can go to Angel Studios app or tuttletwins.tv.
Charlie, the list that you share goes on. There's many more shows and books that are pushing these types of ideas.
I'm actually less worried about that, though, because when freedom-minded, conservative parents see content like that, right, it raises the red flag. They shut it down.
They ban Netflix and unsubscribe in their home. I'm less worried about that because parents are more easily able to detect that.
I'm more worried about what parents struggle to detect. And that's the sub-mediocre content in our textbooks used in classrooms across the country, K-12, that teach about government being the solution.
And they do it in very subtle ways, right? They praise FDR and claim that he, you know, saved the country from the Great Depression. They praise Woodrow Wilson and claim that the Federal Reserve helped, you know, stabilize the economy and stop, you know, massive swings in baking.
These are things parents struggle to detect and yet plant seeds, stay with these children and lead them down the path of supporting big government and ultimately Marxism. So what we're on guard for is not the big flashy stuff that, you know, make lists like that and get parents wrinkled.
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This is how you know that there's some good stuff on the Tuttle Twins.

They have one that is the Creature from Jekyll Island,

which of course is all about the creation of the Federal Reserve.

That would be a very good thing for a kid to read.

Connor continues with us.

So let me ask, are there books also for toddlers, two, three, four-year-olds? Absolutely. We have board books for toddlers, such as the ABCs of Liberty or the one, two, threes of the Bill of Rights.
Indestructible books that your toddler can slobber on and you'll still learn about freedom. We got books for teenagers as well.
So

we run the entire gamut, no matter the age of your child. And Charlie, this won't surprise you when we've surveyed our audience, uh, over 52% of parents tell us that they are learning new things for the first time, even though they got these books for their kids, we're educating entire families.
And it's so critical because groups like yours are on college campus. We have to engage there.

We've seen the closing of the American mind on these campuses.

I contend that if we invest earlier and help families incubate these ideas even earlier,

that helps downstream solve so many other problems.

And so families have struggled in the past.

How do I teach my kids about this stuff?

How do I talk about it?

I don't understand it very well.

That's the problem we're trying to solve.

Just read these fun books, talk about it together,

and you'll be amazed at the aha moments that your kids will have. So one of the books that we got about six months ago was a history book, allegedly.
And it was a beautiful thing. It said, you know, top moments in American history, monuments, I think it was all about.
So, okay, what could possibly be wrong with monuments? We start reading this book, and there was an entire chapter illustrated of this, the Stonewall Riots, which was a series of these spontaneous riots back in 1969, all about, like, the gay rights thing, page after page. And this is supposed to be a book to American money think of all the monuments that you could have for kids to learn so you don't know that at this you know you buy this monuments book you don't know that I start reading this stuff and it is remarkable the toxins look the bottom line is this is that there are dark forces that are trying to harm our kids.
And you must be vigilant. And it can be very subtle.

And... the toxins.
Look, the bottom line is this, is that there are dark forces that are trying to harm our kids, and you must be vigilant, and it can be very subtle. And going back to the Snow White theme, you know, there is this book, Antango Makes Three, is the true story of a same-sex penguin.
I don't know how it could possibly be a true story. Last year, the Escambia County School Board paid a law firm

at least $107,000 to defend its removal, and Tango makes three after a lawsuit was filed by

its authors. Imagine a school board investing six figures to defend itself against common sense

because it's inappropriate to bring agendas to children. So just more broadly, what is your vision for the Tuttle twins? You've had great success.
Where do you want to see this go next? Well, again, books like that, Charlie, raise the flag and we have focused attention on that is clearly a problematic book, the history book that you mentioned. Think of the history books that are used in schools across the country.
We actually purchased all the popular ones. We did a study of them.
And what you find is that they are all great at teaching American history to kids if the goal is to help them win jeopardy in the future by being able to recite every little factoid and random tidbit. But they did a horrible job at actually teaching the ideas, the philosophy, the values that formed this country.
So the history books that we've created have tried to solve for that by saying, yeah, we got to teach the what happened and the who did it. That's important.
But the real context is the ideas that were, you know, that people were struggling over. You ask about a vision for America.
I think of the NAEP scores that came out about a year ago. This is the national assessment of how kids are learning in America.
And they found that for the eighth graders, when they tested them on American history, only 13% of them were proficient in American history. That's one three, not three zero, 13%.
So then I ask you, Charlie, in our audience, what becomes of America if the future voters are so ignorant about our past? Those who don't learn from the past, of course, are condemned to repeat it. So my vision for our country is that we can empower families across the country to learn these ideas together, to give their children an intellectual, ideological, historical foundation of ideas so that as they go out into society and they're bombarded with all the garbage that's going to come upon them, whether that's from peers, social media, academia or whatever, they're going to be able to withstand it.
They're not going to be an impressionable robot that just is assimilated into the Borg hive mind. They're going to have the capacity to think critically, to act independently.
But we've got to put in the work. We can't assume best intentions of a system that's clearly been corrupted, where the curriculum has been dumbed down.
Parents need help. They need

a lifeline. They want to step in and they want to help their kids.
That's what the Tuttle Twins

is trying to be as a resource for them to do exactly that. TuttleTwins.com slash Charlie.

Thanks so much. Great work.
We'll have you back on soon. Check it out.
Thank you. Thanks, Charlie.

That is TuttleTwins.com slash Charlie. I'm buying some right now, and you should too.

Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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