Why You Need to Care About Wisconsin — Live with Donald Trump Jr.

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Speaker 1 How are we doing, Wisconsin?

Speaker 1 Boy,

Speaker 1 I was joking around with Don.

Speaker 1 I thought the election was only a couple months ago, but I guess we're back at it.

Speaker 2 Well, we're back at it because you see what they're doing each and every day, right? They're trying to negate the election. They're trying to negate the mandate.

Speaker 2 So we all have to just stay involved all the way through. It doesn't matter what it is.
We can't just show up when Trump's on the ticket.

Speaker 2 We've got to show up because we understand what their entire apparatus is trying to do to our country.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and so, Don, let's talk about the importance of this race. This is not a persuasion election.
This is not about winning people in the middle.

Speaker 1 It is about driving Trump voters and Republican voters out to the polls coming into April.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 honestly, it's so simple. Just look at what happened this last weekend.
They have a plane of like 300 Trendelaragua guys.

Speaker 2 These are some of the worst drug-dealing, criminal, murderous, rapists, fentanyl-peddling people in the world. Okay, funded like a terrorist regime.

Speaker 2 I mean, this is truly, it is a terrorist organization. And a liberal judge...

Speaker 2 Just like this wants to overrule the will of the President of the United States and the people who put them there with a mandate to end this nonsense so it's going on right now we saw it this weekend they wanted to turn a plane of murderers drug dealers and rapists around because they would rather have them living in our community because somehow they think that benefits them politically this is why it's so but we've seen it you're right i mean some random judge in the middle of nowhere can say this and overrule at least according to him for the moment the president of the United States.

Speaker 2 I think we win that in the long run, but those are the hills today's Democrat Party is dying on. It's why we just have to stay so vigilant, right? Apathy will kill us.

Speaker 2 It'll stop us from being able to do all these things. And they've shown they'll stop anything.
Remember that, you know, the first week it was about the price of eggs.

Speaker 2 It hasn't gone down in 12 seconds since he took office, right?

Speaker 2 Well, what's happening now? Right? The manufacturing numbers going through the roof. We're actually able to get these things done, but we still have to cut through that narrative.

Speaker 2 And we can't do that alone. We can't do that in D.C.

Speaker 2 We can't do it with the mainstream media because they whitewash all of this stuff.

Speaker 2 They'll pretend that it's not happening, even if there's a federal judge that is sitting there saying, no, no, no, we want the murderers and rapists back in America immediately.

Speaker 2 Or we're going to go after, I mean, think about it. That's today's Democrat Party.

Speaker 2 Man, we could go through the list of things that they're doing

Speaker 2 each and every day to try to subvert, again, not just my father, but

Speaker 2 all of you, right? It was your will. There was a mandate.
A Republican won the popular vote in every swing state in the country.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 in the six weeks since he's taken office, they've tried to stop literally everything that the people voted for.

Speaker 2 So I think we have an incredible opportunity opportunity to effectuate real change, but we're not going to do it by sitting at home.

Speaker 2 We're not going to do it by not getting our friends out there. So

Speaker 2 when you think about it, I mean, the Supreme Court here in Wisconsin,

Speaker 2 that is at stake. That is everything for this state.
That is everything for this state in midterms. That's going to be everything for this state in 28.

Speaker 2 We actually have an opportunity to have an incredible path. beyond my father, whether it's J.D.
Vance or some of the other talent that we've curated, right?

Speaker 1 I think we like JD. Don't we like JD, everybody? Isn't JD doing a great job?

Speaker 1 JD, JD, JD, JD.

Speaker 2 So, you know, we actually, the last four years were brutal, right? I get it. Trust me.

Speaker 2 They went after me and my family pretty hard, but they went after all of us with everything, economically, law affair-wise, everything you could imagine to try to take down our country. They did it.

Speaker 2 I always said, if you looked looked at the last four years and you said, if there was the proverbial Manchurian candidate, what would you do differently if you assumed the power in America and you were America's greatest enemy?

Speaker 2 What would you do differently than the actions of today's Democrat Party? And the answer is nothing. You literally wouldn't do anything differently.

Speaker 2 But we needed to go through those last four years to be able to understand just how fragile our democracy is, just how fragile our military is, just how fragile our economy is, because they showed that even an incompetent boob like Joe Biden could dismantle all of those things with a stroke of a pen.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 yeah, or it auto-penned, 100%.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 it took those four years for us to actually have a roster, have a bench of Republicans to step up to see what was going on. and to fight back accordingly.

Speaker 2 And now that we have those, that's the greatest threat to the Democrat Party ever.

Speaker 2 Because if it was just just Trump, and honestly, had we I think we won in 2020, I don't think anyone actually questions that, but

Speaker 2 had we assumed office, it would have been the same can kickers. You know, look at this cabinet, look at the way they're fighting.

Speaker 2 They're actually not just passing the buck, waiting for him to term out. They're actively pursuing the agenda that, again, that you all voted for.

Speaker 2 So now, for the first time in history, we're on the offense and we have a bench to keep this going, not just for these four years, but for 12 and perhaps beyond.

Speaker 1 I mean, just today, Dan Bongino got sworn in as deputy director of the FBI, everybody.

Speaker 1 And then you got Cash Patel as the director of the FBI. I mean, this is...

Speaker 2 How do you think Pete Hagseth doing a DOD? I mean, that.

Speaker 1 And, I mean, the roster that we are seeing at the cabinet, and Don, you just said this, but it's worthy of repeating, everybody, because you guys deserve the credit.

Speaker 1 And it started with the resolve and the grittiness four years ago when we were put into exile.

Speaker 1 And this is why we can't lay off the gas and why we have to understand these off-year elections are incredibly important. You see,

Speaker 1 what Don is getting at is that in some ways it actually was a great blessing we were displaced from power in 2020.

Speaker 1 And I mean, I hate to say that we had to live through Joe Biden and 12 million people coming across the southern border, but if we would have stayed in power in 2020, we would not have Cash Patel running the FBI.

Speaker 1 We would not have Dan Bongino or Tulsi Gabbard or Bobby Kennedy or J.D. Vance.
We'd have Mike Pence.

Speaker 1 And so the question, I guess, is that

Speaker 1 what lessons did we learn in those couple years when we were were not in power? And here's what it was. It's that we got really tough and we got back to basics.
We got invested in voter registration.

Speaker 1 We got invested in precinct committeemen. We got invested in becoming precinct committee.
We got invested in becoming county chairs and becoming involved in these state party chair elections.

Speaker 1 And then also, and this is the most important part, everybody, is that we understand that these kind of races that people don't always hear about, they could tip the scales of the entire future of the Republic.

Speaker 1 This state right here is a 50-50 state. It's like the most 50-50 state in the country.
And I believe that Eric Hovdy should be the U.S. Senator here in Wisconsin.
He should be.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 there's a lot I could go into there, but here's what I can guarantee you: is that if we don't pay attention to these races that might seem a little wonky, All of a sudden, things like ballot custody and signature verification and voter ID and congressional maps.

Speaker 1 If you are out there,

Speaker 1 this is the most important message from tonight.

Speaker 1 If you are out there ever complaining about the security of our elections, then you better work as hard as you've ever worked about winning this election coming on April 1st, because it's the most important thing that you could do when it comes to election integrity.

Speaker 1 And it's just a simple issue of this: that

Speaker 1 on the other side, they're talking about redrawing congressional maps to give Democrats two more seats,

Speaker 1 which would tip the entire balance of power. So, Don, talk about those kind of couple years off and also how important these races end up being.

Speaker 2 Again, it's everything. We see it every day.

Speaker 2 You know, for me, it was particularly tough, right? We're a business family. We're also

Speaker 2 good and loyal kids. We love my father.
Watching what they tried to do to him.

Speaker 2 When they couldn't take away his businesses, they tried to bankrupt him.

Speaker 2 And just so you're clear, a radical judge in the state of New York awarded the state of New York half a billion dollars from the Trump organization for paying back a loan on time with interest.

Speaker 2 Just so we're clear, the alleged victim, the person that was allegedly wronged, gets on the stand for us and said, we don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 We wanted to do more business with Trump, not less. They were a feather in our cap, cap, in our portfolio.
It got us other business. They never missed a payment.
No, no, no. You are the victim.

Speaker 2 And because of radicalized, extremist judges, they win anyway.

Speaker 2 It doesn't matter. Maybe it gets overturned in appeal.
Who knows? But it's still New York.

Speaker 2 I like to say I live in Florida now, but I'm a refugee, political refugee from the People's Republic of New York because that's what it is.

Speaker 2 And there's a reason, there's a reason that all of the lawfare took places in areas where they controlled all of the judiciary, right?

Speaker 2 It was Atlanta, Georgia, and Washington, D.C., and New York City, right?

Speaker 2 When it happened down in Florida because they lost a jurisdictional battle, all of a sudden that gets thrown out because it was always nonsense.

Speaker 2 We know that now. It doesn't stop them.
We still have to deal with that.

Speaker 2 You still have to spend millions of dollars in legal fees, and you have to spend millions of dollars to put up a bond because there's a judgment, so you have to spend 25 million.

Speaker 2 You never get that back, just so we're clear.

Speaker 2 Even if someone says, This is insane, when liberal lawyers at Columbia are writing op-eds in the New York Times saying this is actually a miscarriage of justice and I hate Trump, like

Speaker 2 that's how bad it's gotten. That's what's at stake right here.

Speaker 2 That could become Wisconsin. Okay, this one race is the difference between

Speaker 2 that essential anarchy or a one-party monopoly and sanity, our Constitution, common sense. It literally hinges on this one

Speaker 2 little battle by most political respects, but it's so fundamentally important. It's so critical because they've said they're going to do all of the things they've done everywhere else.

Speaker 2 She's not even pretending that's not the case. They're saying it because they're okay with that.
The same people that are okay with bringing murderers and rapists into our nation.

Speaker 2 There was that great tweet. I posted it up on my X account this week, which was like, why is it okay

Speaker 2 for a Democrat president to essentially welcome in murderers, rapists and thugs? Just so we're clear, by Joe Biden's own ICE statistics, 13,000 murderers were allowed into the country. They know that.

Speaker 2 That's their statistics. Probably padded to make it seem lower, but they still admit that they let in 13,000 murderers.
They knew about it and said it was okay anyway. Think about that.

Speaker 2 16,000 rapists.

Speaker 2 16,000. Think about how many counties are there in the country? Like 4,000? Okay.

Speaker 2 So you're going to add

Speaker 2 four rapists to every county in America. They voted for that.

Speaker 2 Just over, you know, three and a half murderers into every county, assuming they dispersed them evenly. That hasn't happened, but you've dealt with enough of that.

Speaker 2 I've seen some of the stories from some of the small towns. They do these perfect little midwestern towns.

Speaker 1 Whitewater, right, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is that not the most, by the way, Tom Holman, we got to get him on that whole program up there, right? I mean.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 600,000 known criminals beyond just the murderers and rapists, but, you know, probably not the finest people, right?

Speaker 2 I promise you. And their...
Their soundbite back to us is,

Speaker 2 well, you could be deporting the next astronaut. I'm looking at the face tats.
I'm saying, probably not.

Speaker 2 That could be a brain surge. I'm like, I don't know.
He's 32 and he's killed 50 people.

Speaker 2 You know, I don't know. I don't know.
Maybe I'm wrong. That guy's probably beyond reform.
Maybe we should just get him out.

Speaker 2 Right? I mean, think about it. But

Speaker 2 you disperse those across the country and you don't have a country left. And these same judges are going to be people deciding on that.

Speaker 2 The Democrat Party has chosen their side okay they can't do it they understand that look at all the people of nashville even the one or two that are well we maybe we don't want too many murderers or rapists they're still voting for it because the soros money is coming in and if you're not voting for the murderers and the rapists to stay you're not getting it that's democrat party leadership today that's just the reality of how it works okay there are great democrats across this country.

Speaker 2 There's just none in real leadership because they can't get there without that outside money. That common sense blue-collar Democrat that I bet many of you were

Speaker 2 prior to Trump,

Speaker 2 you've been totally forgotten. You've been left by the wayside

Speaker 2 because they need to support the radical agenda. And even if it's only a small part of the Democrat Party, every single decision maker is on board because they're too afraid to go against...

Speaker 2 the insanity and speak common sense. So this one's up to you guys.

Speaker 2 But it's it's literally the future of your state. And if you don't get involved, it's gone.
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Speaker 1 And so, so, Don,

Speaker 1 I want to ask this

Speaker 2 because

Speaker 1 I'm failing to understand. The Democrats, I think, have like a 29% approval rating, something like that.

Speaker 2 I've heard even less.

Speaker 1 21% approval rating. I still don't know who these 21% of people are, but

Speaker 1 there's probably some fraud inside all these numbers, right?

Speaker 1 But Don, at some point, they seem unwilling to adjust or adapt at all. During your father's speech, they refused to applaud the kid with brain cancer.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 By the way, just so we're clear,

Speaker 2 if you don't applaud a kid with brain cancer who's not otherwise even taking a political position, but let's just say you don't even have to, even if he was, you applaud the kid with brain cancer who's 13 and went through seven operations or whatever it was and is sitting there that day.

Speaker 2 You stand up for that. You applaud the kid who's fourth generation military, whose father died as a law enforcement officer, finding out that he got into West Point to serve his nation.

Speaker 2 You applaud that.

Speaker 2 You put your differences aside.

Speaker 2 And guess what?

Speaker 2 You also stand up for the mother and the sister

Speaker 2 of the young girl raped and murdered.

Speaker 2 Because honestly, if you don't, you're literally condoning the behavior that got you there. And that's what they did.
They chose to take those positions. Those are easy.

Speaker 2 If you stood up for it, like three three or four of these things, whether it was the price of eggs coming down, the price of gas coming down, some of these things that Americans are objectively winning with right now, right?

Speaker 2 You see Russia and Ukraine finally at peace talks. No, we can't have peace.
We need perpetual death.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, because the people that pay their bills, they're on the board at Raytheon and big war, and they got to make sure, you know, we got to sell those missiles and peddle death all over the world.

Speaker 2 I mean, can't we objectively say that stopping the death is good? My father said that at the CNN Town Hall, and they tried to ridicule him for that. I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 Isn't that like the perfect answer?

Speaker 2 They've lost their minds and they've lost their way.

Speaker 2 But again, there's, without you guys, we can't do it. This is not a movement for my father.
This is like, he could have stopped in 2020, said, you know what, that was a good run.

Speaker 2 I'm going to get back to work. They would have left him alone.
They went after him the way that they did.

Speaker 2 Not just to get back at him, but to make sure that each and every one of you, whether it's you or someone else who has aspirations to say, you know what, I've done great in the real world.

Speaker 2 I'm going to bring my skills, my success at doing something other than being a bureaucrat. I'm going to bring that and run for president.

Speaker 2 Half of that was a message to that person. Don't even think about it.
It's not worth it. We're going to throw the full weight and force of media and tech and lawfare.

Speaker 2 And we're going to go after you, your family.

Speaker 2 And it's not going to stop to the tune of, it's not just trying to take your business, it's not just trying to bankrupt you, it's not just trying to jail you.

Speaker 2 Now, I know they don't like my father, but when they try to throw him in jail for 750 years, I'm like, it seems kind of extreme

Speaker 2 with the death penalty and having gone through 50 hours of Russia, Russia, Russia, when that was still a thing.

Speaker 2 You know, I get it. There's nothing they won't do to get their way.
And when they can't,

Speaker 2 they ramp up the rhetoric

Speaker 2 so extreme,

Speaker 2 so ridiculously.

Speaker 2 This XYZ is the greatest threat to democracy ever. I'm like, I don't know.
He just wants to get the price of gas down and stop rampant death all over the world.

Speaker 2 Doesn't seem too extreme to me, but they say it so much that they get not just one, but two radicalized liberals,

Speaker 2 one of them, you know, all over the New York Times and the Washington Post, to try to kill him.

Speaker 2 Okay?

Speaker 2 And that's what they did. And guess what? Day after election day,

Speaker 2 they didn't get any of it. They didn't read the mandate.
They didn't do this.

Speaker 2 I saw one commentator, I think it was on CSN or MSDBC, like whatever it was, like CNN, MSDNC, of course, literally get on there. Who cares if you can't afford your groceries?

Speaker 2 Three-year-olds need gender-affirming care without parental consent. I'm like,

Speaker 2 wait, what?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 The same people that are so pro-environment are literally burning down Tesla dealerships right now. I'm like,

Speaker 2 they have picked a side, and it is not the side of reason or logic or decency.

Speaker 2 When someone tells you who they are over and over, believe that. And again, they don't care about your ability to survive or feed your families.

Speaker 2 They cared about gender-affirming care for three-year-olds without parental consent. I mean, I don't know.
Seems pretty insane to me.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 the

Speaker 1 look, let's speak nationally here for a second, Don. Then I want to take a couple questions from this great audience, which is that

Speaker 1 the direction of the movement right now, we are ascendant. We are starting to see President Trump really get into gear.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to see a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine sometime soon, praise God.

Speaker 1 One of the

Speaker 1 least talked about by the media

Speaker 1 accomplishments has now that we actually have a southern border. When Joe Biden was president, there there was 10,000 to 15,000 people a day coming across the southern border.

Speaker 1 It is now a couple hundred, and none of them are coming into the country. They're all getting sent back to their country of origin.
And

Speaker 1 we are seeing

Speaker 2 95% decrease, guys, right? Remember that, well, we have to pass a law to make it. No, you don't.
You just need a new president. It's that simple.
You just need someone with resolve.

Speaker 2 Because they wanted it. They could have done this.

Speaker 2 Even Joe Biden could have done this.

Speaker 2 But they didn't want to. Because rather than cater to the people of this country, they said, you know what's easier? Just bringing in a bunch of people who are going to be dependent on us forever.

Speaker 2 And rather than giving you guys what you need and want to live your American dream,

Speaker 2 we'll just bring in others. I mean,

Speaker 2 it's wild.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we look at the macro trends right now, very favorable for what President Trump is trying to do. But understand the Democrats, they're going to try to get reorganized.

Speaker 1 And this race right here, according to the Wall Street Journal, is called the most important election of 2025. This Supreme Court race by the Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 1 In the entire country, there's governor's races happening in Virginia. There's a governor's race happening in New Jersey.
They say that this race right here is the most important in the year of 2025.

Speaker 1 Understand this. George Soros and all of the left-wing billionaires are pouring money into this state.
You guys see those ads? You guys see them?

Speaker 1 They are looking at this race as a way to try to get themselves back into gear. We outnumber them if we show up, everybody.

Speaker 1 But as Governor Walker mentioned, there's 200,000 people that voted for Trump that don't even show up for this.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you a true story, and then, Don, I want your comments on this, and we'll do some questions. We have a, maybe he's here tonight, but we have a community of people that support our podcast.

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And

Speaker 1 maybe the guy's here who called in, but he called in. He's like, hey, Charlie, when are you coming to Wisconsin ever? And I said, actually, I'm going to be coming on St.
Patty's Day, by the way.

Speaker 1 Happy St. Patrick's Day, everybody.

Speaker 1 Great, great Christian missionary to to Ireland. It's a beautiful Christian story, actually.

Speaker 1 And he said, well, why are you coming to Wisconsin? I said, well, to advocate for the state Supreme Court race. And he said, I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 Now, this is not a criticism of him. It's not, because when I started to talk more with him, I realized he was a first-time voter for Donald Trump.
He's new to the movement.

Speaker 1 He's what we would call a low-propensity voter. However, he's become highly engaged.
He is a supporter of the Charlie Kirk Show. He's a donor to Turning Point USA.

Speaker 1 He chases ballots, but he was not even aware of this election. Everybody, there are hundreds of thousands of people in the state that have no idea this is even happening.

Speaker 1 And that's where you have to take out your phone and go text a hundred people that you know, that you know are conservative or Trump-like, and like, hey, you got to go out and vote.

Speaker 1 You have to encourage your pastors to speak out in favor of talking about this election in the coming weeks.

Speaker 1 There is time left on the clock, but it was a real eye-opening moment for me, everybody, when this guy who is obviously engaged enough to be a monthly supporter of the Charlie Kirk program wasn't even aware of this.

Speaker 1 And what a tragedy it will be if we lose this race, because it will not be that we don't outnumber them.

Speaker 1 It's just that we have not been able to convert our people into votes, convert our individuals into real momentum and real enthusiasm. Don.

Speaker 2 I mean, I think you said it pretty good. I don't know that I could add much to it, but it's 100% right.

Speaker 2 The reality, there's so many people that believe in what my father's doing, but as we saw, he cannot do it by himself, right? You saw that they could censor him back in the first term.

Speaker 2 They could have guys trying to stop him. This is the roadblock that could be for this entire state, perhaps even the entire region.
This is a marker.

Speaker 2 This is what they will use to drive turnout, to get enthusiasm, to raise more funds for every other race that we got for the next two years. I joke.

Speaker 2 My midterm cycle started three weeks ago because we already have to be paying attention to those things, right? That's where they're going to try to do it.

Speaker 2 If you lose Congress, if you lose the Senate, if you do things, whatever they're able to do, they'll just shut it down there forever. And you'll have a stalemate and

Speaker 2 a really rough couple of years. I know that people don't want that.
I understand that everyone who voted for my father does not want that. But they also have to be clear.

Speaker 2 They can't just show up when he happens happens to be at the top of that ticket. We have to do this for so many reasons.
I always joke, like, hey, I was a real estate developer from New York City.

Speaker 2 Like, we didn't need to get in this game. And even if I was a lifelong conservative, like, you have to engage because it's not just about now.
It's about that future.

Speaker 2 This presidency could be put to a halt with this vote. It could be put to a halt in two years in November.
That's what they're going to try to do.

Speaker 2 You see, they're not looking to try to help with anything. They're just trying to block whatever it is that they can block.
They're trying to get us to wait it out. So we have to stay energized.

Speaker 2 We have to stay engaged. We have to call whoever it is.
If you want to lose Wisconsin,

Speaker 2 whether it's governor's races in two years, whether it's the

Speaker 2 midterms, whether it's the presidency in four,

Speaker 2 this will do it because they will redistrict the hell out of this thing. They will break every rule imaginable.
They will negate everything and say you don't have standing and say you can't combat it.

Speaker 2 We made such incredible gains over the last few years because people saw exactly what was at stake and got engaged. We cannot take our foot off the gas for one second.

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Speaker 1 Let's go to a couple questions here, guys, from our great patriots here in Wisconsin. Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 Hey, Charlie. Hey, Don.
Welcome back to Wisconsin. My name is Hilario DeLeon.
I'm the chairman of the Republican Party of Milwaukee County.

Speaker 3 Charlie, last time I saw you was during the RNC, but before that was in Vegas, and one of the things that you mentioned was the issue of lose by less in areas in Milwaukee.

Speaker 3 As a matter of fact, that is one of the things that I took as a rally cry for my county party and other county parties across the nation.

Speaker 3 One of the things that I realized was when I was using that cry,

Speaker 3 we were getting pushback from people within our own county, within our party, at all levels on that idea on losing by less in areas like Milwaukee.

Speaker 3 Can you guys explain and maybe expand more on how to better market that idea for those across the country in blue cities on how we can do better and win swing states like Wisconsin every time?

Speaker 1 What was their objection to that, that we should talk about winning Milwaukee County, or what was their objection?

Speaker 3 Well, they thought it was a poor idea to use that phrase, lose by less. Why do you want to lose? Why do you want to lose? I know

Speaker 3 your father doesn't like to lose. We love to win, obviously.

Speaker 2 We love winning. We love winning.

Speaker 2 Listen, I want to win Milwaukee County, but we also have to understand in so many of these places, right?

Speaker 2 As someone, as a conservative and a lifelong conservative from New York City, sometimes you get that mindset.

Speaker 2 We can't do anything, but they got to understand that by them showing up, you're negating some, you know, the 5% of leftists in some conservative town. I mean, they still have to get out.

Speaker 2 It's all accretive. So, you know, I understand that marketing, but you got to get out, and everyone just has to vote.
It's so simple.

Speaker 2 But people have been trained on our side to be demoralized, to stay at home. That's done by the media.

Speaker 2 That's why they, you know, and we're figuring out all the craziness with Act Blue and all the fraud that's probably gone on there and all of the kickbacks back from USAID.

Speaker 1 I think the FBI is going to do something on Act Blue soon.

Speaker 2 We'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 So it hasn't been fair, but you've got to remember, in half the congressional races across the country, we're outspend five, sometimes ten to one, and it's still so close.

Speaker 2 As people start getting it, as they start seeing the gains, they're going to have a higher propensity to become actual voters because they realize that their vote still makes a difference.

Speaker 2 So I think everyone just has to understand that it does make a difference, that it is a statewide. They all have to turn up.

Speaker 2 They can't just be demoralized and say, okay, well, it's the vote for Mayor, and maybe we're not going to make any progress.

Speaker 2 Get out there, stay active, stay engaged, call your friends, make sure everyone's doing that. Whatever you do the day after the election, if you said, hey, guess what? My state's effectively over.

Speaker 2 Whatever you would do to take that back, to change those gains and to actually turn a loss into a gain, do it now. Do it for the next few weeks.
It's not that hard.

Speaker 2 We just have to make sure we stay all in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I mean, I will stand by the statement of lose by less because, in order to eventually win Dane County and Milwaukee,

Speaker 1 eventually you have to first lose by less. I mean look guys in Dane County President Trump outperformed his 2020 result but I think it was nearly 80-20.
It was almost an 80-20 split.

Speaker 1 And so yes the goal should be like let's dig ourselves out of that hole first and understand the Democrats back when they were kicking our tail in these elections, they would look at rural areas and say, okay, let's lose by five points less or six points less or seven points less.

Speaker 1 So I have no problem with the phrase. And also, I agree with Don that if you are in charge of Milwaukee County, if you say, hey, we will only consider a success if we win Milwaukee County.

Speaker 1 Imagine if that was your judge's success. You wouldn't still be county chair, right? Correct.
Or it's like, I will only consider it a success if we win Dane County. That's silly, right, everybody?

Speaker 1 Democrats outnumber Republicans just by raw voter registration data in Dane County nearly three and a half to one, right? It's the home of University of Wisconsin-Madison. You guys know it very well.

Speaker 1 So instead, since you have this insane voter registration disadvantage, say, let's lose by 10 points less.

Speaker 1 So I think the phrase is perfectly appropriate, and it gives people in those counties a way to measure success to get closer to

Speaker 1 the inevitable objective.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 7 Hi, I'm Amy Scott. I'm the chair for Moms for Liberty in Waukesha County.

Speaker 2 Great group.

Speaker 1 I mentioned you to Gavin Newsom. I don't know if you saw that or not.

Speaker 8 Oh, yes, yes.

Speaker 7 I testified in Madison for that bill last week, actually. So as a mom and the chair of Moms for Liberty, we've seen the Democrat Party completely leave behind women and moms.

Speaker 7 And we saw at the the joint address, all of them wearing pink to support women's rights, but they only care about women's rights when it comes to killing babies, not when it comes to women and girls in sports.

Speaker 7 And also, Susan Crawford is not supporting mothers because she gave a sweetheart sentence to a child rapist and defended that three times at the debate.

Speaker 7 And so, what is your message to moms and women athletes? I know your daughter is a great athlete. So, what is your message to moms and girls?

Speaker 2 They have to understand this, right? The Democrats always somehow controlled the narrative on that. But that's changing.
I mean, look at what Charlie and Turning Point has done with youth.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 if you get the facts out there,

Speaker 2 men playing in women's sports is not popular. It never has been.
I think it was Daily Wire did something a couple weeks ago. They're like, oh, wow, Don Jr.
was on this issue in 2017, okay?

Speaker 2 This was when it was just Twitter, and it was version 1.0. It was 90% leftist.
We were suppressed, smothered. And I sort of saw this issue.

Speaker 2 And again, as the father of actually two fairly, very athletic girls, you know, and some boys, but the girls are great athletes.

Speaker 2 I said, this is ridiculous. And I saw it then.
In 2017, 2018, people on leftist Twitter would reply back, be like, oh, I hate Don Jr. with a passion, but he's actually right.

Speaker 2 Oh, I can't believe I'm agreeing with Don Jr.

Speaker 2 No one believes this this nonsense. No one thinks it's fair.

Speaker 2 But when you watch all of Congress sit down so that some guy can get in there and smash someone in the face, that was another person in the audience, just took a volleyball to the skull that was so bad it left her disabled.

Speaker 2 I mean, think about that. It's not fair.
And I think it's actually the number one issue where we can make gains with women. I mean, safety, obviously, across the board.

Speaker 2 I think people are seeing that when you talk about fentanyl, but people have to talk about that and they have to say, say, look at what they want.

Speaker 2 I can't imagine even some of the more extreme liberals really wanting their daughter changing in a locker room with a grown man. And that doesn't work.
It's never going to work.

Speaker 2 It didn't work in 2017 when the issue was starting, and it does not work now. But we have to make people aware.

Speaker 2 We have to be talking about these things, and we have to make sure that people are clear about those positions.

Speaker 2 You know, if Crawford's doing that, people have to know it, because I guarantee you, the media is not going to cover that she went all in for light sentencings for criminal, rapists, and pedophiles.

Speaker 2 They'll never tell you that.

Speaker 2 Half of their lies are lies by omission.

Speaker 2 They'll smother the truth. They'll suppress it.
They'll say it didn't happen. Then four years later, like the Wuhan Lab League, now they're saying the New York Times this week,

Speaker 2 five years after we all knew exactly what happened, oh, you know what? It could have, it's disgusting that this happened. It's like...

Speaker 2 What do you mean?

Speaker 2 What do you mean? What was it that Jake Tapper did last week? It was like, Jake Tapper wrote a book about Joe Biden's decline. I'm like, that's the arsonist calling the fire department.

Speaker 2 You mean the guy that's been covering it up for five years? Like, I mean, I wrote a book about it in 2020. Like, everyone knew, everyone saw it, and everyone is complicit.

Speaker 2 But then they try to get their credibility back by saying, oh, I had no idea. Oh, me a culpa, six years later, when it doesn't matter.
No, no, no. That doesn't work.
We have to get that message out.

Speaker 2 But we're going to be more effective getting that out on social media, talking about it, sending it to your friends.

Speaker 2 Make sure all the moms in all of your contacts understand that this woman is a radical leftist that wants this. Because no mother wants their daughter competing against men in sports, okay?

Speaker 2 I promise you. They don't want them losing scholarships.
I've been doing enough, like, let's call it, you know,

Speaker 2 triple-header-like softball game type events. Like, you know,

Speaker 2 no one wants to do that for 18 years only to have their daughter's scholarship taken away forever. Okay, that's beyond the common sense aspect of it, beyond the safety issues of it.

Speaker 2 It's just just not real. But we have to know because no one else is going to do that but for us.

Speaker 1 And I will add one more thing that I'm sure you guys have all seen in the last couple of years how suburban women have become slightly more Democrat than Republican.

Speaker 1 This issue, especially men and female sports, should be a galvanizing issue to correct that. And we are seeing the Democrat Party become less and less popular.

Speaker 1 I think in the coming years, we have an opportunity to bring suburban voters home to the Republican Party and build a governing coalition that can last for decades to come thank you so much

Speaker 6 we'll take two more yes sir i know you uh good to see you i'm jack hogendike the chairman of the marathon county republican party in the bright red 7th district And I just want to invite you and Turning Point Action to come up to Wassau this weekend.

Speaker 6 In fact, we're holding a rally for Brad Schimmel in Wausau Wassau on Saturday afternoon. We want to rally the troops.
We've got the votes up there.

Speaker 6 We offset Dane County with our votes, all the farmers and all the solid people in the 7th district.

Speaker 6 So just an invitation to get TPA down there to Wassau one more time.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Our team will be there.
Thank you, my friend. Thank you.

Speaker 1 We'll do two more because that was more of an announcement,

Speaker 1 which is fine.

Speaker 8 Mine might be an announcement, too. What I just wanted to say is thank you both for being here.
I serve on the Milwaukee County GOP with Hilario, the bus chairman.

Speaker 8 And thank you both for coming and getting our message out. It's so important that we elect Brad Schimmel, who we think is amazing.

Speaker 8 But the fact that you guys came and are doing this is so key and so important. And we're so happy to have you.
And I was not paid to say this.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 1 And I will say this, that one of the reasons why Don agreed, and Don deserves credit, guys. I mean, he has so much, give it up for Don.
I mean, he's just amazing. He has so much pulling on his time.

Speaker 2 Thank you, guys.

Speaker 1 And one of the reasons why Don agreed and really cleared out his schedule for this, guys, is we remember back in 2023,

Speaker 1 a couple years ago, where the off-election year, where we should have won that Supreme Court seat, and we didn't.

Speaker 1 And now the balance of power is slipping in one direction, and we did not want to be taken by surprise again. And so that is exactly why I know Don told me, he's like, look, we can't let that repeat.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 these off-elections matter. If I can leave beautiful Florida

Speaker 2 to come and, now when I love Wisconsin I think it's beautiful but maybe not in like February March you know it's like that there are other times although I used I did used to love going ice fishing in Milwaukee yeah July is a little bit nicer so but no but I guess my point is we all have to lead by example right so I can't I can ask you guys to make those calls I can ask you to post about it I can you know you know a lot more people in Wisconsin than I do right but you know if I can take a day out of my time for this to do this and then I'll do the same thing and I'll talk about it with Charlie on my show and we'll post about it on social social.

Speaker 2 We'll do what we can but again we can't do it alone but it's it's I don't think it's fair for me to ask you guys to do it then me not do anything and just do it from the comforts of my home right so we we all have to step up we all have to own that we are part of this movement and that's how we're gonna win and and so we're gonna get to another question here but so the action items are like the first thing you should do post on social media you are here tonight to draw awareness text 100 of your friends no seriously tell them to vote for brad shimmel is that it's like that just get get out there, do it, and explain why.

Speaker 1 I need you guys to adopt a different mentality than a presidential year. In a presidential year, you don't really need to remind people that there's an election.

Speaker 1 You need to do a little bit of that, but it's everywhere, right? Everyone's talking about it.

Speaker 1 This is totally different. If everyone here tonight just did an Instagram post or a Facebook post and tagged your friends, like, oh, wow, thanks for reminding me.
I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2 Yes, sir.

Speaker 9 As a newly elected district chair,

Speaker 9 one of the issues that I've seen, I mean, you guys have this amazing group of young guys, Dixon and Brett, and we've all worked with them.

Speaker 10 And there's a major pool between the older Republicans and the younger Republicans.

Speaker 6 And there's an issue with trust sometimes.

Speaker 9 How do we bridge this gap? What's your recommendation to bridge the gap between the old part of the Republican Party, which I'm kind of in the middle there, and the young?

Speaker 10 I brought my 14-year-old daughter today.

Speaker 1 You guys have 21, 22-year-olds.

Speaker 10 How do we bridge that gap and get a trust together? It's a very important issue, I think, in the Republican Party.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, look, I don't want to overly generalize, and I'd love Don's thoughts on this. Obviously, I'm more sympathetic to the younger approach.

Speaker 1 And I think the younger approach is why Donald Trump did 13 points better with younger voters in 2024 than he did in 2020.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I belie it's the president deserves all the credit, but it was also listening to Don and listening to many other people and going on Joe Rogan's show and going on podcasting and embracing a different type of campaign.

Speaker 1 Whereas the old playbook, the Mike Pence playbook, right, is to do things completely different. And so let me just talk very broadly and then I'll give you some suggestions.

Speaker 1 because I don't know all the details. But the more the young gun energy that some people are like, ah, I don't know, it might be too aggressive.

Speaker 1 No, we lean into the aggression, everybody, which is that we are in a new era of politics.

Speaker 1 It's you either lead, follow, or get out of the way, and the Democrats are not going to abuse our country anymore. It's that simple.

Speaker 2 And by the way, that.

Speaker 2 And that is the game that the Democrats have been playing forever, right? They were playing hardball. We were playing t-ball.
We said, oh, well, we have to have the...

Speaker 2 They would do whatever it took to win. So, you know, I understand everything that you're saying.

Speaker 2 I'd say there are schisms between the Republican Party and like a MAGA America First individual. But I can say that we probably agree on like 90% of things.
I always liken it back to like business.

Speaker 2 You never get everything that you want for every little thing, but take those incremental gains. That's what we do poorly.

Speaker 2 We sit there and we'll blow up a deal that gets us 95% of what we want because one person said, I didn't get 100%

Speaker 2 and we're like petulant children.

Speaker 2 The Democrats, they take a 51% vote and they live to fight another day and they start chipping away with death by a thousand cuts on the remaining 49%, starting literally the next day.

Speaker 2 We have to understand that and embrace all of that. Doesn't mean the young kids want everything.
It doesn't mean the old guys are right about everything.

Speaker 2 But I think we can agree on almost the vast majority of the major issues. And right now,

Speaker 2 our ability to effectuate the results that we all voted for, which is with my father at the helm, hinges on all of us getting together, putting aside whatever petty differences there are, winning in our respective lanes, and getting the vast majority of these things done wherever possible.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I'll just, so here's a good way, is establish some rules of how you think about it, a matrix, right?

Speaker 1 Regardless of age, the person who is most principled and most consistent with stated values that they shared voters should be the one that's taken more seriously.

Speaker 1 So if there is a game where, for example, if people are saying, Well, I know we told the voters we'd do this, but in reality we're going to do that, I don't care if they're 22 years old or 82 years old, that person should be run out of the room because that has no place in the Republican Party, right?

Speaker 1 Secondly,

Speaker 1 if somebody says, Well, we don't need to work that hard, or we could just kind of phone in, I don't care if that person is 22 or 82, that should be dismissed.

Speaker 1 Finally, I think, though, that regardless of age, there needs to be a constant re-evaluation of are we doing the best job that we can to reach new communities, reach new voters.

Speaker 1 Guys, I mentioned this previously. When we were in exile, we had to dig really deep.
I mean, Don will tell you,

Speaker 1 we're getting a lot of phone calls now from every powerful person on the planet. Don's texting with them.
We're laughing. We're like, oh yeah, did that tech billionaire also text you?

Speaker 2 I mean, everyone.

Speaker 1 For four years, it seems they lost our phone numbers, right, Don?

Speaker 2 It's a, hey guys, we're back. It's like,

Speaker 2 what changed? That's weird. We were with with you all along, Don.
I'm like, I got a bunch of unanswered text messages that says otherwise, but fine.

Speaker 2 We can all agree. We got to move forward.

Speaker 1 The point being, though, is that when we are in exile, we decided to become scrappier and more innovative. And so I hope that's somewhat helpful for you, and thank you for being involved.

Speaker 1 Really appreciate it. Okay, one more question.
One more question, guys.

Speaker 8 Hi, I just wanted to thank you again for being here. It's so appreciated.

Speaker 2 Brian is awesome.

Speaker 8 Anyhow, I just wanted to say, you know, in talking, one of the points that we're talking about is with some of the older adults and younger adults, which I have noticed.

Speaker 8 I'm kind of up there in age anyhow.

Speaker 8 One thing I've been working a lot with older adults and trying to get them, because as we get older, we kind of get set in our ways, right? I mean, it happens. It's natural.
But it's really good.

Speaker 8 I thank you guys, first of all, for being here, for giving me some ammunition to tell people when they're calling me who should I vote for, and da-da-da.

Speaker 8 But it's so important

Speaker 8 that we need to embrace as older adults what the younger adults are doing. The one thing I'm so impressed with Milwaukee County, the first time I met the board, I was so impressed.

Speaker 8 One thing that they're doing is not only

Speaker 8 younger adults involved, because all the time at UW-Madison, UW-Milwaukee, come on, there's Democrat parties all over.

Speaker 8 Nothing with Republicans. Now we've got them.
But the other thing is they're getting people that are of different races.

Speaker 2 We're running out of time. Different gender.

Speaker 8 I'm sorry, different gender.

Speaker 8 How can we really look at getting other

Speaker 8 people involved of different

Speaker 8 you know religions and everything and that's one thing I've been pressed

Speaker 1 so let me tell you so I believe that what thank you so much I believe what Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action what we have done to move young people is one of the most significant and transformational developments in conservative politics the last couple of years.

Speaker 1 I really believe that.

Speaker 1 I joke around with Don. Don is the angel investor of Turning Point.
He was like the first person really to believe in us back in early 2016 when we were very small.

Speaker 1 That was year three and a half of Turning Point. We're now on year 13.

Speaker 1 So Don deserves a lot of the credit because he spoke at every event, never asked for anything, and now Turning Point is bigger than ever. It really is amazing.

Speaker 1 But so the reason I bring that up is that we have a unique expertise in showing how we can broaden the coalition, not just bring bring in new people into the fold. And there's a couple rules for it.

Speaker 1 Number one, you have to go actively to places where they don't agree with you. I go to college campuses, so you guys don't have to, right?

Speaker 1 I talk to Gavin Newsome, so you guys don't have to, right? So

Speaker 1 and so you actively have to, so in Milwaukee County,

Speaker 1 Every weekend, someone should be going to black churches. You guys should be going into community centers where they do not agree with you.

Speaker 1 of which, the second of which is finding messages that can agree with these communities. And the third of which, which I think is really important, is being relentless.

Speaker 2 At turning point, we are relentless.

Speaker 1 Don, how often did they say, oh, it's a waste of time?

Speaker 1 You can't organize on these college campuses.

Speaker 2 By the way, honestly, when I was introduced to Charlie in late 15, it was very much that. I think you were, what, 20? Yeah.
21. 21.
21. And we're starting this campaign.

Speaker 2 And let's just say we didn't know anything. We didn't know what we were doing.

Speaker 2 It was brutal. And a couple friends met Charlie.
They were really impressed. Like, you got to sit down with this guy.
It's like, okay, tell me about it.

Speaker 2 He knows more about this stuff than anyone. It's like, a couple more details.
Well, he's 21. And I go, stop.

Speaker 2 Stop. We have enough people in this campaign that don't know anything.
I don't need to hear from another 21-year-old that doesn't do it. My friends were very convincing.

Speaker 2 I sat down with Charlie, and in five minutes, I was like, congratulations, pack your bags. You're on the team.
Like, let's just go. And we're traveling.

Speaker 2 But.

Speaker 2 But you actually, you have to take those chances to get out of your comfort zone, to trust someone else that they may be able to do that. Find that good messenger and then actively work to do it.

Speaker 2 You know, if he's saying to go into a blank treasury, maybe you're not the messenger, but maybe you know someone who is.

Speaker 2 You know, find those things, create that talent, be the catalyst for that, right? You know, Charlie and I went all in for J.D. Vance when he was running in fourth place in a

Speaker 2 Ohio Senate primary. It was like, well, why would you do that? Because we knew the guy, we knew him personally, we saw the talent, we knew what could be.

Speaker 2 We just needed someone to actually have the guts to go all in. The big guys in the fundraising world, they're not going to touch that guy.
He's in fourth place.

Speaker 2 I want to stick with the guy that's going to at least make it far so they keep paying my bills.

Speaker 2 The establishment, I'm not going to go against the guy that's going to win.

Speaker 2 Sometimes you have to get out of your comfort zone a little bit, take those chances, go with your gut, your spirit, that talent, and don't just go with that establishment and where it was going.

Speaker 2 And I think now you have it, honestly, the only impressive vice president of my lifetime,

Speaker 2 and that's not even close.

Speaker 2 But that risk was not popular.

Speaker 2 When I went all in, and Charlie did as well, but especially me, when I went all in for JD for VP,

Speaker 2 I was up against every billionaire Republican donor. I used up my political capital with my father till like 2079.

Speaker 2 I will be dead, and I will still have not caught back up,

Speaker 2 but it was the right call. And I knew it was the right call.
Maybe the first couple, yeah, I knew it was the right call anyway, but I knew it was the first couple, really, it was the debate.

Speaker 2 Okay, the debate happened, the vice presidential debate, JD just slaughtered somebody got to the point where Tim Waltz is nodding along with JD for like, I agree with everything.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I think he's voting for Trump.

Speaker 2 But I go and I do the spin room, the media afterwards, right?

Speaker 2 And I did like two hours of press and my phone keeps ringing in my pocket. And I assume it's a bunch of different people that were like, that was great.
And it wasn't.

Speaker 2 It was one person that called me 15 times. His name is Donald Trump.
And I was like, oh, boy. And I called him back after two hours of press.

Speaker 2 It's like 2 o'clock in the morning, and he picks up the phone, first ring.

Speaker 2 You know, Don?

Speaker 2 Don, I did that one for you, Don.

Speaker 2 There were a lot of people that wanted me to do something else, and I did that one for you.

Speaker 2 But, Don,

Speaker 2 that was a 10.

Speaker 2 That was a 10. And Don, there's not a lot of tens.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 it's okay to break from that mold. I mean, Trump broke from that mold, right? If you would have had the traditional Republican Marty, guess what? You'd have Kamala Harris as president right now.

Speaker 2 Exactly. So, you know, you have to understand just because you've been there a long time doesn't mean you're necessarily right about everything.
It doesn't mean you have to ostracize everyone.

Speaker 2 And, you know, again, you probably agree on 90% of the issues, so take the wins and move on. Win.
It's all about winning.

Speaker 1 So, in closing, guys, post on social media that you are here and draw away, make noise about this election to your friends and family. Text 100 people.
Chase ballots.

Speaker 1 We have to save our court in order to save this great state of Wisconsin. Look, I grew up in northern Illinois, and I know what a Midwestern state can become

Speaker 1 if you do not care for your home.

Speaker 1 And yeah, I mean, J.B. Pritzker, oh my goodness, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 But all kidding aside, Illinois used to be a deep red state, a state that Ronald Reagan won, a state where governors were always Republican.

Speaker 1 And now it's one where people flee Illinois, and we have term limits in Illinois, but it's different. It's one term in office, one term in jail.
I mean, it's the whole thing is all screwed up, right?

Speaker 1 I know what it can become if you do not take seriously these types of elections. So you need to go stay engaged, engaged, stay involved.
These next couple weeks will determine everything.

Speaker 1 We are peaking at the right time, everybody. We are peaking at the right time.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

Speaker 1 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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