FIRST LOOK EXCLUSIVE: Analyzing My Interview with Gavin Newsom

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Lots of breaking news happening today, But we want to dive right into a very viral news story of my appearance on Gavin Newsom's podcast. So just to be very clear, why Gavin Newsom is hosting a podcast is pretty evident.
He wants to try to run to the middle and try to moderate ahead of the 2028 presidential race. I am the first guest, and we had quite the conversation.
Challenged him on a lot of different issues. Did not challenge him on everything I wanted to.
Anything that comes to, this is kind of how it works, so we'll go through a lot of the tape. I thought I did fine.
The team thought I did well, and you guys will be the judge. Anything that has to do with California,

it gets into basically a shouting match. And it's like, you don't understand.
I know better than you. We're doing all these superfluous committees, and it just kind of gets deadlocked into a draw.
It gets hyper emotional on anything related to a specific of California. The premise was that Governor Newsom wanted to have me on his program to learn from me and MAGA faithful as to why they are getting their tail kicked.
And we went into it. We went into homelessness.
We went into school closures. And the one that is making the most headlines is the issue of men in female sports.
And I love debate. I'll debate anybody at any time.
And as far as if this is the best use of his time while people still do not have homes in the Palisades, that is a good argument. Now, this is the longer clip.
Let's just start here around men and female sports. This is going very viral.
Gavin Newsom obviously knows which way the wind is blowing. Unless, of course, it's a wildfire in the Palisades.
Sorry, that's too soon. He always kind of knows the directional political energy.
And this is our conversation around whether or not that biological men should be allowed in female sports. Play cut 191.
You have an opportunity to like, you know, run to the middle and see this man. So obviously you're talking to me about people.
So like you right now should come out and be like, you know what? The young man who's about to win the state championship in the long jump in female sports, that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should step out and say no.
No, and I appreciate. But would you do something like that? Would you say no men in female sports? Well, I think it's an issue of fairness.
I completely agree with you on that. It is an issue of fairness.
It's deeply unfair. Would you speak out against this young man, A.B.
Hernandez, who right now is going to win the state championship in the long term? I can see you wrestling with it. No, I'm not wrestling.
I'm not wrestling with the fairness issue. I totally agree with you.
By the way, as someone with four kids, I think I have two daughters. Two daughters, right? Two daughters.
And I have a daughter, too. And a wife that went, God forbid, to Stanford and played on the junior national soccer team and a guy who got into college only because I was left-handed and could throw a baseball a little bit or hit the hit the ball for a little bit.
So I revere sports. And so the issue of fairness is completely legit.
And I saw that the last couple of years. Boy, did I saw how you guys were able to weaponize that issue at another level.
Not weaponized. Don't that's that's weaponized, maybe pejorative.
You're right. But you were able to shine a light onlight it in a way that, frankly, there are not that many.
We're talking about, I think, the NCAA, what, 510,000? No, no, but I just didn't realize. It's 890 medals and trophies that we know of in the last five years.
That's a lot. No, so I'm going to, let me step back, say completely fair on the issue of fairness.
I completely agree. So that's easy to call out, the unfairness of that.
There's also a humility and a grace that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression. And the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that I have a hard time with as well.
So both things I can hold in my hand. How can we address this issue with the kind of decency that I think is inherent in, is inherent in you, uh, but not always expressed on the issue.
No, I get it. At the same time deal with the unfairness.
You're asked, you asked a good faith question. Like how do we Democrats get out of the wilderness? This one is an 80, 20 issue.
New York times poll, right? That's not like, right. We're getting crushed on you and like crushed.
And you have an opportunity in the state to be like, look, I have a heart for AB Hernandez. I have a heart for the san jose volleyball player yeah let's give them compassion what's not fair is just for like a woman's entire woman's sports i agree you know by the way i agree with you i agree with you and it's interesting i stress tested this trial i was wondering i said you know in california and i've been a leader in the lgbtq places as you know back in 2004 was marrying same sex couples and i know we have, on marriage equality.
Um, and so I've been at this for years and years, I take a bad seat to no one, but I was actually on the issue of sports, which in the last few years has just exploded. Um, trying to understand and understand the 10 athletes in the NCAA, 510,000 athletes, but 10 athletes and what, but how profound and even my own friend cohort, people saying the hell is going on? Why aren't you calling this out? When did this happen? So in 2000, turns out in 2014, years before I was governor, there was a law established that established the legal principles that allow trans athletes in women's sports.
But the issue of fairness is completely legit. So I completely align with you.
And we've got to own that. We've got to acknowledge it.
I don't say that through the prism of politics because you disagree with same sex marriage on principle. Um, and so I'm not in, and by the way, I value the fact that you're not trying to walk away from that principle because electorally.
I'm in the minority of it and I don't want to walk away from this principle

because it's electoral

but it is an issue of fairness

and I think Democrats. I think that I wish that we would have done this podcast last week.
Last week? Well, because the U.S. Senate just vote.
Every Democrat voted against that bill. And I'm just telling you, like, again, I'm not one to give Governor Newsom advice.
You guys are giving us an 80-20 issue that is just permeating the country. And it's such an affront to our senses.
And you look at these videos, Governor, because it's not just that it's, okay, you read an article about it. But these young men that are in these sports, they're throwing around girls.
And it is an issue of fairness. But it goes to a broader arch narrative, which is important.
I want to hear this. Which is this, that the Democrats, you guys will tend to view an incident through an oppressor, a press lens.
It's your training. It comes from college.
It comes from. And we as conservatives tend to view things through right or wrong or just or unjust.
And the country is going far more in our direction and away from your direction. That's just a little taste.
Now, I do have to interject one thing. By the way, Governor Newsom is getting attacked by the left rather aggressively for saying, quote, I completely align with you.
He aligns with us on this program. Now, is Gavin, is he being, let's just say, honest with his deeply held beliefs? I think it's just pure transactional politics, but who knows? And honestly, who cares? What's important is that we are winning on the issue and even the governor of California has to come in our direction.
But boy, there's going to be a reckoning in California because that is the center of radical trans ideology. However, there's something that he said that I would have interjected and said if the podcast would have been recorded the next day, which is he said, well, they're more likely to commit suicide.
A new study from the University of Texas actually shows that is not true. Yesterday, quote, males that had trans-affirming, gender-affirming care surgery had depression rates of 25% compared to males without surgery.
Anxiety rates that the group were 12.8 percent compared to 2.6 percent. Quote, depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation and substance use disorders were significantly higher among those who underwent surgery.
The same differences were found among females as with surgery at 22.9 percent depression rates. Females who underwent surgery also had anxiety rates compared to 7.1% without surgery.
New study came out that shows that it's not even true. The University of Texas study shows that the suicide talking point is completely nonsense.
We tweeted this out yesterday. Elon retweeted it.
It went totally viral, seen by 20 or 30 million people. So I would have responded to Governor Newsom if that study would have been out in time for our conversation.
We're going to keep on going into this conversation that I had with Governor Newsom. I will say this, the way that we view the world is through right and wrong, just and unjust.
They view it through oppressor oppressed. And the entire Democrat party just said, we do not care if men are in female sports the governor of california is standing up against it is it legitimate or not what it more than anything else it is interesting and illuminating and i'm glad that we were able to bring that out to the surface it is an 80 20 issue as The governor's trying to run to the middle.
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More of my conversation with Gavin Newsom.

So this is going to how it all started. Gavin said that, Governor Newsom said that his son is a big fan of the Charlie Kirk show and that he really wanted to come to the studio.
And I responded off the cuff and rather sharply. And I'll tell you, when you have conversations like this, you see, Governor Newsom was being overly effusive in his praise towards me.
So you have to kind of meet the interviewer at his frequency. Remember, I'm a guest on his show.
So here's a guy who I believe has done incredible damage to the most beautiful state in the country, that I believe has done just unspeakable harm to the great people of California. So here he is kind of throwing on the praise.
It's a difficult thing because you don't want to all of a sudden look as if you're just coming out like super aggro. At the same time, you must challenge.
So I tried to get in a couple little one-liners here or there. Listen carefully.
Play cut 174.

Last night, trying to put my son to bed.

He's like, no, dad.

I just, what time?

What time's Charlie going to be here?

What time?

And I'm like, dude, you're in school tomorrow.

He's 13.

He's like, no, no.

This morning, wakes up at 6-something.

He's like, I'm coming.

I'm like, he literally would not leave the house. Did you let him take off school?

No, he didn't.

Of course not.

He's not here for a good reason. But the point is the point.
You canceled school for like two years. Once one day.
The point is the point, which is you are making a damn dent. Thank you.
I'm kidding. You canceled school for two years.
Come on. I mean, you had the Zoom class for two years.
You shut down all the California schools. All kidding aside, it really just showed the power of this program.
The power of all of you that subscribe to our show and keep the momentum going, that we are reaching the sons and daughters of the Democrat ruling class. And I just want to have the offer to Governor Newsom, both privately and publicly, we'd love to have your son come to one of our Turning Point USA events.
We won't make a big deal out of it. We won't say, oh, this is Gavin Newsom's son.
No, no, no. We just want him to be able to have a patriotic experience this summer.
we have our student action summit we'd love to have him come to one of our Turning Point USA events. We won't make a big deal out of it.
We won't say, oh, this is Gavin Newsom's son. No, no, no.
We just want him to be able to have a patriotic experience this summer. We have our Student Action Summit.
We'd love to have him come to Tampa, Florida. He could bring a couple of Freds.
I think it would be incredible to have Governor Newsom's there. Again, we wouldn't make a whole thing, a display out of it.
He can make up his own mind. But it does show the impact of the virality of what we've been doing.
And I wonder if that was one of the reasons

why I was invited to be the first guest on Gavin Newsom's program. I was the first guest on the program, and I wonder if there was something to do with his son.
But we are reaching the next generation. We are reaching young people.
And one of the pieces of tape that we will get into is how I explained how younger voters are the most suicidal, alcohol addicted, anxious, and quite honestly, suffering generation in modern American history, if not in American history. Let's play Cut 175.
When you go to these college campuses, I love watching your TikTok, which is next level. Clearly, that's expressed by my 13-year-old son.
I want to meet this guy. Yeah, I actually have a...
He's coming to a Turning Point event this summer, Tampa, Florida Student Action Summit. I actually am concerned, by the way, if you did...
You should be concerned. But let me say, here is why I'm concerned, because you have expressed that I should be concerned as a Democrat, that we're getting clobbered, that you've figured something out.

It's not me.

The president first deserves the credit.

But why?

No, no, hold on.

You were at this before Trump was Trump.

No, I know.

He was a Democrat back in 2011 and 2012.

The president deserves huge credit,

and I just have to say that as an obligatory thing,

because without him, our movement would be small.

And you can appreciate that in politics.

You have to appreciate the person who is the catalyst.

For you, that's what you sort of attached an identity with him? It was also just the catalyst. It was a cultural moment that just opened us up.
By the way, the media is covering this all live. It's big, big coverage about how Gavin Newsom is breaking with the Democrat Party.
Daily Mail, Fox News, across the board. Here's going to be interesting for Gavin Newsom.
It's not worth our time whether or not the shift is legitimate or not. I don't think it's legitimate.
I think it's all just political opportunism. Is will the Democrat Party put up with a candidate like Gavin Newsom who's trying to moderate his views? Will they allow somebody to say, nope, actually, no men and female sports to try to help rebuild the image and we went right in by the way on all the race stuff prop 16 legalized racial discrimination i also challenged him on the most radical trans law in the country and to be honest with you we'll play this tape of when I challenge him on the most radical trans law.

He's so slippery when it comes to the California stuff.

He'll argue from authority like, no, no, that's not actually what the bill says.

This, this, this, this, this.

And I know he's wrong, but I don't have the bill handy.

So you kind of get lost in the details there.

But I'm still glad I brought it up.

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So this has been one of Gavin Newsom's most effective attack lines when he is on a show like Sean Hannity or when he goes up against Ron DeSantis. He says, you guys are book banners.
So he brought that one right out of his back pocket and he decided to deploy it. And this is how I've always wanted Republicans to reply to the book banning issue.
If I may say so myself, I thought I did very well on this. We actually did zero prep on this.
You know, we were prepping for all the different types of things that could be brought up. We did not bring up a book banning.
This is how, if I was a Republican, this is how you should respond to this issue. Playcut 192.
How about the book ban stuff on a serious note? 4,240 books or titles, libraries and schools are banned in 2023. Is that not as a conservative? Well, it depends.
I mean, I think we can both agree pornography should not be taught to nine-year-olds. Fair point.
Okay, so that's a book ban. All right.
Well, there were some other books. No, no, no, no, no.
That was the Moms for Liberty contention. Time out.
Like, I agree on Bill O'Reilly. The Moms for Liberty movement that you made a big thing of was just no porn to 10-year-olds.
We agree. So those books should be banned.
Well, okay. So what we should do right now is every California school that has porn in their library should be kicked out.
Does that include the Bible? Well, I wouldn't say the Song of Solomon is porn. No, but I mean, some have made that point.
Is that a fair point? I don't think that's fair at all. And as a man of faith, and I deeply admire that about you.
Thank you. Yes.
But no, I mean, again, the Song of Solomon is rather risque. But what we're talking about in these books is not just the words, it's also the images.
And again, your audience can look at the images themselves. It's highly graphic.
But again, what it seems a banning binge, I mean, at next level, sort of cancel culture. But why do you think moms are doing that? Do you think it's because they want to have mind control? Or do you think that they have come across incident of incident of highly provocative material? I love moms, but this moms, I mean, we don't have to get into Moms for Liberty.
I mean, you brought up the book bans, though. It seems deeply organized for a larger agenda, but that's my humble opinion.
No, but let me just, you know, kind of complete the point is that it's easy to just call it kind of a book ban, but when you actually have to read some of these books, it will take your breath away of some of this stuff, right? You're like, okay, you know, we're teaching a 10-year-old how to put a condom on. I know.
I just have a problem with, you know, who the hell is going to decide that government. I mean, Doron DeSantis is going to decide what I can read or say in the boardroom.
This is the exercise of politics though. The exercise of politics is the highest form of community because it blends morality and sociability.
So what we do is we have discussion and elections and we have boards and commissions, right? And we, as a people say, okay, no porn for 10 year olds. And that olds yeah that's politics right i mean i'm not saying that there's like some sort of we got a stress test where the bible's including that i don't even want to go forward anymore on this no it's tough but this is this becomes a dialectic i have heard a lot i've never heard that's interesting though i know i mean it's a it's a provocative i don't think it's fair again i deeply don't mean to offend by the way if father cause would be offended with me the bible's pornographic no but there's just there's there's most of these books are quote unquote not pornographic there's sections that are that some kind of of images that are very violating to young kids some we would agree on that but can i just say one of those if you want to learn governor and i'm happy that there is a movement of moms that is not, that's growing, where they feel as if our kids are being hyper-sexualized.
And I agree with them, that they are being, that they have to hear topics. Social media? Well, both in the social media and the classroom.
In particular. So that's how you handle, in my opinion, the book banning issue.
And look, Governor Newsom that said, I don't want to go any more forward on this. because it's very easy to say book ban, book ban, book ban, when you frame it as what it is, which is a common sense, just kicking out of pornography in our schools.
And him mentioning the Bible is just so ridiculous. The only reason I did not get indignant is that there are some portions of the Song of Solomon that are risque.
I wouldn't say it's pornography. but the issue has always been visual images for eight, nine, and 10-year-olds that are so violating, not longer holy texts that may or may not be read to kids, which I think is just such an outrageous example for him to try to bring in there.
But he was starting to lose and then comes back in. We don't want to talk about that anymore.
Also, they call them book bans when it's just, why are we teaching this book? Why is this book in the library for fifth graders? That is not a ban. It is not a ban.
It's maybe a ban on pornography, which we can all agree with. So here is another lengthy clip that I want to play.
And now before I get into it, I knew the details dangerously enough on this topic. However, this is where Gavin Newsom is his most slippery and his most shifty and the most clever.
Anything to do with a detail in California, he will argue from authority, get hyper aggressive, talk over you and say, you don't know, you're not from here. This is the most radical trans bill in the country.
Without a doubt. Essentially, as it is written, a teacher cannot be fired if they do not tell parents that their kid is transitioning at school,

is taking hormones at school, or is calling him or herself vice versa sex.

There are other elements of this bill that I was not able to recall. I'll be perfectly honest with

you, candidly, right there on the spot. I have a good memory, but it was just there's so much kind of going on there.
The question is who has sovereignty over our kids? We never got really into that. But anything to do with California, Gavin Newsom will rise up.
You don't understand. This is not what he does, this thing with the hands.
Let me tell you what's really in the bill. That's not what it is.
And I even doubled or tripled down on even the extreme example, because yes, I think a teacher should 100% be fired if the teacher does not tell a parent that their kid is transitioning. Of course I do, even though that is the more radical extremist interpretation of this bill.
So it's just one example of how he reacts to anything to do with California. It's also very good for anyone who might be dialoguing with Gavin in the future, anyone that might be debating against him in the future.
When it comes to California, not only do you need to know your stuff, you have to be willing to get into the trenches because he'll just try to bring you down right into the gutter on the issue. Muddy it up, get into the weeds.
It's a very effective debate tactic. Is it rooted in

truth? Of course not. Play cut 194.
You signed a law where school districts can't even tell parents if their kids are trans. That's true.
OK, then. No, they can.
They just can't get fired for not doing that. And it wasn't just trans.
They can't get fired for not. The law was explicit, said you can't be fired for not snitching on a kid,

not just for being trans, for being gay. And my point is, how the hell are you telling parents? They have every parent snitching.
No, the teachers themselves have the right. The law is they can do that.
They can do that. We're not saying you can't do that.
We're saying you shouldn't be fired if you choose not to say Johnny was talking about liking some other boy or something. That's a charitable reading.
It's not charitable. It's actually the freedom not to snitch.
Let me tell you the other way to say this, that a teacher, of course, should be fired if you don't notify a parent of what's happening to their kid. Of course, they should be terminated for that.
Who's parent and safety? Shouldn's parent and safety? I want these teachers to teach. And by the way, they feel like the health or safety of their kid, they have a responsibility to communicate.
They still can. By the way, we're not selling these teachers they can't.
We're saying they won't be fired if they don't look around and say in the recess, there were two boys. Why didn't you see that? You're fired.
You should have said something because they're talking about two different things. But there, of course, should be a penalty measure, whether it be termination or whatever, if a teacher withholds information from a parent.
Because what you're saying is that there's no way to hold them accountable. You're saying you're accountable to what, though? The parents are two kids talking about the fact that this is talking about subject matter.
All of a sudden now we have to have teachers policing speech or conversations that kids are having. I think you would even agree, Governor, that is an over-extreme example.
What we're talking about is if, which happens a lot, unfortunately, is if a young girl says that, hey, I want to transition, and the teacher accommodates and affirms it, and the parent doesn't even know. I have met parents like that in this state.
I heard Trump and then they come back and they're away or something. There's so much extreme work in this space.
I will say, and we don't have to, you know, we don't have to wrestle too much on this topic, but you guys will lose on these topics. And you might disagree, but like- But I'm one of those guys and, Charlie, I appreciate, and I, by the way, appreciate the civility which we're engaged in this conversation sincerely.
I don't mind losing. Sometimes you lose on principle.
It's one of those things. Everything's not political is the point.
And sometimes the principle, and by the way, mad respect for you, abortion and same-sex marriage, you feel the same way. I hold views where the American people don't agree with me.
Exactly. But I admire that on principle.
But for me, it's not just political. And I appreciate you making that point.
I deeply am mindful of the politics of this, which are very unhelpful. Personally, it's unhelpful.
More broadly, professionally, the Democratic Party and our brand. And one of the reasons, to your point, the Democratic Party brand has just been crushed.
And your self-awareness is helpful to know because it is deeply unpopular. And I think that that is an ascend an ascendant political force.
Right. That is not going away.
No, I appreciate. But I also appreciate you hold deeply unpopular beliefs.
Of course I do. But I know you're not running for office.
I'm not going to run for president as a moderate. The facts are this.
It's very simple. A California public school teacher is not required to inform parents if their child is transitioning.
In July 2024, Governor Newsom signed Assembly Bill 1955, also known as the Support Academic Future and Educators for Today's Youth Act. The legislation prohibits school districts from enacting or enforcing policies that require teachers or other school staff to notify parents about a student's gender identity, sexual orientation, or gender expression.
So he's taking an incredibly extreme interpretation of, and it goes back down to the core, whose kids is it? So it doesn't block them from telling, obviously, but it enables teachers who are trying to secretly transition kids while the parents are clueless. Let me say that again.

It enables and protects teachers who are secretly trying to transition kids while parents are clueless. And of course, it empowers the LGBTQ student activist teachers who are trying to go after kids and groom them in the classroom.
We know that to be correct. And the parents have no idea.
These are our kids, meaning parents' kids, not the government's, not the teachers.

It is a grooming protection bill.

No exaggeration.

That's how I should have gone about it.

I thought I did okay.

I thought we probably went to a draw there. But anything on California, it's very, very difficult to make any progress with it.

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Let's go to this one. This is a little more fun one, PlayCut 182.
But it's equally insane that people are boycotting Bud Light. I how is that not called this i don't drink but yeah i mean like you don't drink at all i mean no by the way i'm just that's interesting yeah you don't never have i have yeah a couple what happened a couple years ago you stopped what you stopped why'd you stop i just uh wanted to be more successful i love that what were you drinking uh napa valley wine oh jesus christ Here we go.
Right? Are we going to get a little— Stop using my Lord What were you drinking? Uh, Napa Valley wine. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Here we go. Right.
Are we going to get a little, my Lord and savior in vain? By the way, forgive me. I deeply respect, by the way, do respect your faith.
I'm serious. It's like the fourth time.
There, uh, there's a contemplation of how many times he used our Lord and savior name. I kept telling him to stop, and he kept on doing it.

Let's go to more. There's so much here.
The one I want to get into is Prop 16. So Prop 16 is one of the most radical things that has ever been proposed in the history of the state of California.
He was not prepared to be able to defend this, and he tried to weasel out of it, saying, oh, I don't know the details of it. This would have made racial discrimination legal in the state of California, and the voters of California overwhelmingly rejected it.
He knew I got him on finally a California detail in 2020. I got him on one California detail.
He was not prepared for Prop 16. Kudos to Blake for pulling this one out.
And it wasn't like a small thing. This was a major racial reckoning ballot referendum in the middle of 2020 that he endorsed.
If you want to see kind of what he believes and why he believes it, he was not prepared for this one. He was, of course, prepared for wildfires, and he was prepared for homelessness.
He's got all his little talking points for that. Prop 16, whoop, a little bit off edge there.
Play cut 187. By the way, you're talking to someone who's never supported a defund police know but i was explicit but but also one sec you did support prop 16 in 2020 which would have legalized racial segregation racial prejudice right prop 16 literally would and it got to go back to my no no you know you're smart no no i said no no i'm 16 i'm taught 960 sat so a little you're the governor of the largest state in the country no no, no, no.
I saw your debate against DeSantis. You're good at this stuff.
You know what I'm talking about. Prop 16 would have had legalized racial prejudice, which got defeated by 16 points despite all the institutions.
So you're asking me what did wokeism look like when California, when all the institutions, yourself included, with all due respect, embraced this insane ballot measure. Guess what? Even the people of California didn't want yeah i've been a bit racial racial discrimination california since 1996 has had prop 209s there was you know city council meetings where they said the white people aren't allowed here right and that's not good no it's not good yeah and so what that ends up what ends up happening is a broader question of sensible not racist suburban moms yeah that are like wait a second i have a eight-year-old white son.
Are you trying to say he's a racist? Yeah. And it creates a backlash that then bubbles up.
Right. I appreciate it.
I appreciate the perspective. Yeah.
He knows what prop 16 is for the record. He knows exactly what it is.
I got to go look at my notes. Okay.
Let's go to this one here. Uh, one 79 more fun.
You're talking about your about your uh you're whining and dining at french laundry yes i was talking about the importance of of of never uh well i can't help you with a reservation i get such a kick out of this whole shtick i gotta be honest very nice by the way we couldn't have this conversation with that conversation dumbest bonehead move my life okay own it move on grow up uh and i'm is that you talking to yourself i'm talking to myself i'm just look i'm staring i'm looking right at you in the eyes as i say that just to get your reaction here's the gg ping clip the french laundry when we can go on at length 183 why is it you were able to clean it up for gg ping oh that was you guys that was the dumbest thing i've ever heard By the way, you guys weaponized that. I saw that on 25 things.
It was the most ridiculous. The weaponized.

That was, you know what i will happily happily revert back to your can i have a street as weaponized in this case weaponized can i in this case can i weapon i guess it was ridiculous give me a break but governor all due respect i saw a beautiful picture of san francisco that of San Francisco that looked like Singapore, and then Jiji Ping leaves and the Walking Dead comes back. By the way, it was APAC who had dozens and dozens of foreign leaders, and California is not San Francisco, but I'm the governor of California, not the mayor of California, not the mayor of San Francisco.
You were the mayor, but I just want to understand, why is it that we had to clean it up? But you have to admit, it's emblematic of something that if enough important people show up, it can get clean. So why not make it clean all the time? That one I was proud of, which is exactly right.
If enough important people show up, San Francisco can be clean. Homelessness is a choice.
It's not weaponized. We're not we're not trying to go after marginalized communities, all these talking points.
No. Weaponized.
Like when a homeless bum weaponizes a baseball bat to rob someone's car in San Francisco. I like that tape that we just played.
Ryan and Andrew, we should tweet that one next. I thought that was a good one.
I thought that was a good one. It ended nicely.
I thought that was good. If enough important people show up to San Francisco, you can have clean streets.
But you can't have clean streets if communist dictators don't show up. To listen to the entire conversation of Gavin Newsom and I, we will continue to post it here.
He has it on his podcast page as well. I will say everything they said they were going to do, they fulfilled.
They didn't edit any of it. They gave us the video footage.
So thank you to them and their team to do that. They were honest brokers.
So that deserves recognition. Thanks so much for listening,

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