The Charlie Kirk Legacy Award + Was The War Worth It?

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Speaker 4 This happened last time. We did not change the set.
But I am joined here by Sean Davis, CEO and co-founder of The Federalist, and Lomez, Jonathan Kieperman on my right, here in D.C.

Speaker 4 And then Blake Neff is joining us from Phoenix.

Speaker 8 Blake, are you there? This is where the normal studio is. We can prove that it does still exist.

Speaker 8 It still hasn't been bulldozed, hasn't been changed. Yeah.
Chair is there.

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We're still in the middle.

Speaker 4 Well, this was actually funny. You guys would appreciate this.
Last time Blake and I, and I think Jack was with us, Pozo, we were here.

Speaker 4 I mean, our inbox was inundated with like people like I can't believe you changed the set we're like no we just we just uh we're visiting it was during the medal ceremony the last time we were here but uh thanks to the real america's voice team for uh making this studio available to us uh gentlemen there's a lot going on we're in the middle of a shutdown we were actually just talking about how our flights got delayed uh because of the air traffic controller you know holds or whatever because there's less air traffic controllers in the air there's a lot going on that is is really uh important we want to get to to it.

Speaker 4 But, you know, there was a moment last night at the Patriot Awards where Erica Kirk received the first ever Charlie Kirk Legacy Award. And I think this is one of the

Speaker 4 she's just been so courageous.

Speaker 4 You guys, I don't have to tell you about all the distractions and all of the conspiracies and all of the all of the things that could distract and really derail a lesser human, but she's just really been so strong and so gracious and so, I don't know, steady in the midst of this unbelievable situation that nobody should ever have to be in.

Speaker 4 I'm curious about your guys' POV just from the outside watching as, you know, she's done her first interview now. She's accepting awards and she's, she's doing a phenomenal job, in my opinion.

Speaker 4 But what is it like for you guys?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, I can remember going back to September 10th and,

Speaker 7 you know, experiencing this with my own wife, who I love, I love you, wherever you are.

Speaker 7 However, I couldn't imagine her just stepping into a role like this and just sort of like seamlessly filling into the enormous shoes of Charlie and not just getting up on stage and just mouthing the right words, but really embodying Charlie's spirit in a way that's almost uncanny, like his ability to bring people together, this sort of

Speaker 7 just strength of purpose that comes with everything she does. And so it's been a really sort of remarkable thing to observe from the outside.

Speaker 7 And I think, you know, of course, this is a testament to Charlie as well. He obviously has really good taste and and he picked a winner.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 Sean,

Speaker 4 I'm going to get to you and Blake here, but 409 is basically Jesse Waters, who got the first exclusive interview with her saying the same thing. 409.

Speaker 4 You know, the famous quote behind every great man is a great woman. We're now realizing how great Charlie was by seeing how great Erica is.
Erica has been able to take hope from grief.

Speaker 4 She didn't ask for this mission. She accepted this this mission.
This was not something she wanted, but this is something she's now duty-bound to do.

Speaker 4 Charlie's mission was to save Western civilization, and that is now her mission. Sean?

Speaker 10 Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about this since September 10th, and I've always wondered watching people be martyred overseas when you see people, they've got the bags over their head, they're lined up, and you wonder, how do they have the strength to go through what they know they're about to go through?

Speaker 10 And I'm convinced it's grace from the Holy Spirit in the moment that he knows we need it. I watch Erica and I think to myself, there's no way she does this without the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 10 She has been given so much grace and so much courage, not to take anything away from her personally, but there's no way any of us could manage that on our own.

Speaker 10 There's no way any human on their own power could handle that grief and that burden. And to go out there and see her do it, I think it's just absolutely amazing.

Speaker 4 Let's go ahead and play a clip then from Erica at this event.

Speaker 4 Let's go ahead and play 407.

Speaker 11 This whole room feels it. This whole nation feels the spiritual warfare.

Speaker 11 But Charlie would say, That's how you know you're over the mark when you feel it, when the enemy is there. That's how you know you're doing the Lord's work.

Speaker 11 And that's how you know you're defending truth. And that was his

Speaker 11 true barometer, was when he would feel that spiritual warfare. And And I watched him pour every ounce of himself

Speaker 11 into the students,

Speaker 11 into raising up the most courageous generation

Speaker 11 and inspiring so many people to stand firm in faith and to love this country.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, that really is,

Speaker 4 you know, when you talk about spiritual warfare, you know, I was talking about Lomez,

Speaker 4 Jonathan Kieperman.

Speaker 4 We still haven't settled on how we're going to be either one.

Speaker 7 Maybe J-Lo? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Jonathan Lomez. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 You know, but this feeling of spiritual warfare is really palpable right now.

Speaker 4 And it's hard to explain. I think a lot of people in our audience feel it.
If you just log on to social media for like two seconds, you'll see it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, there is a churning happening right now. And it's impossible to know where it's going to settle out.

Speaker 4 But I think we felt felt it before Charlie was assassinated. And then as soon as Charlie was assassinated, it's like there was this moment of unity and sort of beauty, really.

Speaker 4 And I think in the last couple of weeks, people have really come to see that we are in a time of churning and testing, both as a movement and as a country.

Speaker 7 Well, I think

Speaker 7 for me anyway, in Charlie's absence, it was only in the last couple of months that I came to realize just what a sort of central figure of gravity he was holding this whole coalition together.

Speaker 7 And in his absence, you know, you do see sort of the barbarians at the gate.

Speaker 7 You see people and forces sort of coming into this coalition and using sort of the vacuum that was created by Charlie's untimely death to fill it with, you know, different kinds of ideas and different sort of self-interested agendas that could derail what was a really strong thing and what still is, but is going to require, I think, everybody to sort of take

Speaker 7 a cue from Erica and try to embody this unifying spirit that Charlie had. And so I think that's the task before us here.

Speaker 4 You know, Blake, I think this is a good time to actually throw to you because you've been sounding off.

Speaker 4 I've been looking at your Twitter, actually, and you have really emerged, in my opinion, and I don't mean to make you embarrassed here, but as a voice of common sense and a strong, forceful voice.

Speaker 4 I'm super grateful for it, actually. We had to encourage Blake to start tweeting.
But Frank, what's your take on this? You forced me to start tweeting. I want to be on the record for this.

Speaker 4 Well, I knew how great you would be at it. I mean, honestly, you are a lot of things, Blake, but you have a moral clarity that is profound.
So, final thoughts to you in this segment.

Speaker 8 It's just, yeah, it's been a very trying time for a lot of people. It would be trying no matter what happened, but just

Speaker 8 it really

Speaker 8 makes you appreciate how many different things can stress you out through a difficult moment because you have the obvious loss of Charlie and then you have, you know, then you have, you have the good problems.

Speaker 8 Like, how do you manage the outpouring of support, love? How do you make sure that what happened to him is, you know, you know, the surge of spiritual energy, make sure that's not wasted.

Speaker 8 Make sure his martyrdom is not,

Speaker 8 you know, is not just this tragedy with no upside to it.

Speaker 8 But then, you know, the follow-ons, you know, you have the vicious people who try to come at whatever the big topic is.

Speaker 8 You have the kind of oddballs who just invent bizarre things and then get obsessed with them and harass you.

Speaker 8 And you have to really maintain, you have to work on maintaining your composure through difficult periods. And I think all of us have learned how to do that, but it's a real challenge.

Speaker 8 And Erica, most of all.

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So you've got a new show coming out, a podcast with Christopher Ruffo. Great Christopher Ruffo.
And you're talking about this psychodrama on the right.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And I think this is, I think like in the long run, this is actually,

Speaker 4 I think, you know, yes.

Speaker 4 I said something on Twitter yesterday that what God has unleashed, man cannot stop. And that doesn't matter if it's people that we perceive as conservatives or liberals or whatever.

Speaker 4 I really believe that what God has unleashed in Charlie's assassination, his martyrdom, that man cannot stop. It will take its course.
The gospel will march forward.

Speaker 4 The truth will march forward. And I think that's what makes what Erica, her steady hand, her grace and her courage makes it even more poignant.

Speaker 4 But Sean, you said something that you wake up every morning and you're like, you're like, let's go. Let's go.
And Lomez and I were like, sometimes we just look at the internet. We're like,

Speaker 4 you know, no thanks.

Speaker 4 But where does that come from in you? And

Speaker 4 tell us more. We need it.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah, no, I'm jacked up for the fight, man.

Speaker 10 And I don't think I've ever felt more energized than in the wake of Charlie being killed because never before has it been so clear what the stakes are. It's good versus evil, period.

Speaker 10 And here's the thing. Here's the thing that should encourage everyone.
We are going to win. We are going to win because we are behind a God who doesn't lose.

Speaker 10 So when you know that, when you know that you're on God's side, that his army is going to win, that the debt's been paid, that death has been destroyed forever, why on earth would you not be totally jacked up and encouraged?

Speaker 10 Like, it's worth remembering what discouragement is. Just think about the word.
It's the lack of courage. So being discouraged is actually sinful.
Being despondent is sinful. It's okay to be sad.

Speaker 10 It's okay to mourn. We should never be discouraged because God has defeated everything.
Christ has defeated death. What on earth do we have to worry about?

Speaker 10 All he's asking us to do is go forward and fight the battle that he's already set out for us.

Speaker 10 It's like, man, pick up your sword, pick up your book, your pin, whatever it is, and like get jacked up and get to it.

Speaker 4 Well, we do have some good news, and this is for Blake.

Speaker 4 Pelosi is retiring. She is not going to seek re-election.
So, sorry, when you just said evil has been defeated and all this stuff, I just thought it was a good segue.

Speaker 4 Blake, what do we make of Pelosi finally hanging up her spurs?

Speaker 4 Or whatever that is.

Speaker 8 She's a very symbolic figure of a lot of trends in American life, and we should see her off properly. So, you know, first of all, she's leaving office at 85 years old.

Speaker 8 So she perfectly represents gerontocracy.

Speaker 8 She's been, let me check how long she's been a representative from California since 1987, which I have bad news is nearly 40 years ago for all of you who are around my age.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 8 she first became Speaker of the House back in 2007, nearly 20 years ago, had two separate stints at it. And beyond that, she represents a lot of things.

Speaker 8 She represents the total political invincibility of the urban Democrat machine.

Speaker 8 She represented San Francisco itself, which has become this unlivable, you know, homeless-infested, drug-infested, feces-encrusted disaster, yet can never seemingly really change and still costs a gazillion dollars.

Speaker 8 It's sort of this disaster piece of a city. And she represents other things.
You know, a lot of people have been pointing towards her stock returns that she, I think she beat the market by about 600%

Speaker 8 in her investments over the years. And it's sort of like no one ever really stops that from happening.
No one seems to be interested in banning that. It's almost like a giant shrug from

Speaker 8 the American governing class that she's able to do that. And also, just what she represents more broadly for the Democrats.
She was born, she's kind of this like

Speaker 8 this fossil from the 60s. We literally have photos of her hanging out with John F.
Kennedy. And

Speaker 8 she oversaw this total transformation of America that, as we're going to see when we show that British veteran up ahead, like this transformation of the West, this transformation of America that almost everyone recognizes is in a negative direction, where they had this incredibly world-historically successful country and society, and they sort of gave it away for stock market returns and cheap trinkets and ethnic food.

Speaker 4 Lomaz.

Speaker 7 You know, can I say something controversial here? I would hope Manchi Pelosi.

Speaker 7 While I agree with everything Blake says, I also have a kind of grudging respect for her because she also represents a kind of administrative vigor and competence that I think is at least something that we could try to emulate.

Speaker 7 I mean, she kept together this like coalition of the fringes for years. And, you know, I think what comes next for the Democrats is far worse than anything Nancy Pelosi did.
It's complete chaos.

Speaker 4 I say the same thing about Gavin Newsom, which people get so mad at me.

Speaker 4 I'm like, I'm like, listen, as somebody who's lived in California, Gavin Newsom is like a puppy dog compared to what's waiting in the wings. So be careful what you wish for.

Speaker 4 So there was a clip here that is going viral.

Speaker 4 And Blake is, I know, excited to chime in on this as well back in Phoenix.

Speaker 4 So there's a 100-year-old

Speaker 4 military veteran from the UK. And this clip was posted eight hours ago on Good Morning Britain.

Speaker 4 And basically, you know, we talked about Nancy Pelosi. She was born 15 years after this gentleman was born.

Speaker 4 The crossover has been, you know, extreme. And we talk about how we have squandered so much of what we, the war bounty

Speaker 4 after World War II, defeated fascism, and then only to give it away, as Blake said, for you know, cheap trinkets and ethnic food and you know, a GDP and a skyrocketing deficit and debt.

Speaker 4 And so, and this is a

Speaker 4 theme that we've seen across the West as we've become more unchurched, as we've become more multicultural, as we've seen our own culture degrade and corrode, and the cultural cohesion really strained to the max.

Speaker 4 And so, this powerful clip from this, this hundred-year-old gentleman, you could tell he's not saying this in a mean spirit. And I think that's what makes it so striking.

Speaker 4 So, let's go ahead and play it. 433.

Speaker 4 The sacrifice wasn't worth the result that it is now. What we fought for,

Speaker 4 what we fought for, was our freedom. We fought that even now

Speaker 4 is

Speaker 4 darn sight worse than what it was when I fought for it.

Speaker 13 Oh, Alec, I'm sorry you feel like that because I want you to know that all the generations that have come since, including me and my children, are so grateful for your bravery and all that for service personnel.

Speaker 13 And it's our job now, isn't it, to make it the country that you fought for.

Speaker 4 You absolutely fought for.

Speaker 13 And we will do.

Speaker 4 We want to. I'm so wonderful to know there are people like you that spread the word around.

Speaker 4 We will do. a younger generation

Speaker 4 the sacrifice wasn't worth what what we've gotten from it you know i mean it's really gloomy people find

Speaker 8 there's another book i don't remember the name off the top of my head lomez might remember to tell me if you do there was a book probably came out like 30 years ago or so when there were more veterans still alive in britain and it was a similar thing asking them how they felt about british society and it came out over and over again that they said said it just felt like the sacrifices weren't worth it because when they thought of the country they'd fought for, they fought for, you know, they thought they were fighting for Christian civilization, for the English people, for Britain as this free society of, you know, that gave us all those constitutional liberties we care about as a British-descended country.

Speaker 8 Freedom of speech, freedom of religion,

Speaker 8 you know, the nature of parliament and all of that. And then they just saw it get thrown away.

Speaker 8 They saw their country, you know, get rid of free enterprise and become one of the sort of most socialist, most over-regulated, and as a result, most inefficient and like low-growth countries.

Speaker 8 They massively roll back freedom of speech. You're now far more likely to get arrested for saying something offensive on the internet in Britain than you are in the People's Republic of China.

Speaker 8 You're far more likely to get in trouble for, you know, some perceived like racist offense or homophobic offense there than you are in a bunch of supposedly more authoritarian countries.

Speaker 8 And on top of that, they see their leaders just openly saying British people deserve to be replaced. That there's no such thing as an English people or a British people.

Speaker 8 And they don't have a right to have a country that is presumptively their own. And it's so depressing, frankly, that this guy had to live long enough to see it become as bad as it did.

Speaker 8 I think he's realizing, you know,

Speaker 8 he would have been luckier if he'd died a lot younger than he's living to be now.

Speaker 7 I think also for me, this puts into perspective what we're doing here, okay?

Speaker 7 Like, we've been talking about a lot of this like petty squabbling going on on the right, and you hear someone like this, and you've got to take a step back and like realize these are like civilizational stakes here, and we got to remember who the enemy is and where the real forces of sort of decay and degradation are coming from.

Speaker 7 And I hope, like, the lesson for me would be: okay, we owe it to people like this, the memories of people like this, this, to preserve this civilization they fought for.

Speaker 7 And we got to refocus on what's really important here.

Speaker 7 You know, we have like a situation in Minnesota with like this, you know, negotiating a kind of like Somalian ethnic squabbling, okay, over who's going to be the mayor of Minneapolis.

Speaker 7 And you have, you know, people trying to castrate children and stuff. And you go, okay, that's...
that's where the fight is.

Speaker 7 Can we refocus on the things that matters and get away from a lot of these trivialities that frankly are just distracting us from that?

Speaker 8 I want to flag that in case people don't know what you're talking about, because it's so great. It's very quick.
You mentioned the Somali ethnic squabble.

Speaker 8 So this is getting reported on X that allegedly a significant number of Somalis in Minneapolis did not vote for Omar Fateh, the Somali candidate for mayor, because he is apparently part of the Darud clan rather than the Hawiye clan in Somali culture, and they are hostile to each other.

Speaker 8 They don't like each other. Allegedly, the

Speaker 8 Dao, the Ilhan Omar is also a member of the Darud clan, so the Hawiyas also don't like Ilhan Omar over that.

Speaker 8 You know, the remark I said was, you know, imagine Ben Franklin saying, you know,

Speaker 8 a nation of never-ending ethnic squabbles from the third world, if you can keep it.

Speaker 10 Well, yeah, it's true. When you import the third world, you import every third world tribal, clan-based

Speaker 14 war,

Speaker 10 grievousness. You're bringing in all their battles and all their ancient hatred and they're fighting it out in your streets.

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Speaker 4 You know, it is sort of like an expression that Blake uses sometimes is we talk about advanced civilizational tech, right?

Speaker 4 Like monogamy is one of these really powerful civilizational technologies that tends to make men more productive.

Speaker 4 We focus on building our families, our businesses, our home life, as opposed to, you know, warring against this warlord that's got 30 wives and we're sort of aimless

Speaker 4 and wifeless and childless. And so it tends to be this really amazing thing for society.

Speaker 4 But there's another thing about Western civilization that is so profoundly amazing, and that is that we've managed in many ways, not perfectly, obviously. The Scots and the Picts and

Speaker 4 the Welsh and the English would tell you that it's not perfect, certainly, but this binding together under constitutional systems and republics and putting sectarianism and clannish behavior behind us.

Speaker 4 And really,

Speaker 4 what's interesting, and it has to be a bigger question, because I think you have to know the root cause if you're going to solve it, is why in the West, specifically the english-speaking west did we decide that it was not okay to be proud of ourselves to be proud of our national identity where did that happen when did it happen and and and what is the root cause because in some ways you could define maga is as a resurgence of national pride and and people that have at least identified that they want to be proud of their own nation i think it's i think we have lost the courage we have lost the confidence to simply say straightforwardly our way of life is better than other ways of life.

Speaker 7 And when people come here, they need to assimilate into our better way of life. It's not just that it's different.
The way of life we have here in the West is better. And it's okay to say that.

Speaker 7 We need to have the confidence to be able to say that. And I think, you know, we've lost the ability to just explicitly make that claim.

Speaker 10 And you don't even really have to make the claim. You just have to point out the contrast.
American culture is superior to Somali culture. Do you know how we know?

Speaker 10 Because look at there and look at here. It's better here.
It's why everyone's coming here. They're coming here because they know it's better.

Speaker 4 Well, I have one note on that. And Blake, I'd love for you to react to this clip.
This is an Islamic Imam and he's explaining how they plan on taking over America. Play cut 279.

Speaker 14 Let's work towards that. Let's work towards a Muslim mayor.

Speaker 12 Next election that comes in, nominate people for the School Board of Education. Next election that comes here, nominate people for the local township.
Begin the demographics change. People converted.

Speaker 12 There's a big, huge conversion going on in this country.

Speaker 4 Where are the converts?

Speaker 12 They just convert and they're gone in the wilderness. The other thing, children.
Muslims have the highest population.

Speaker 12 Average, they did a Pew Foundation did a research study, Pew Foundation, and they said that Muslim household average is 3.4 child per family. The white American has one child per family.

Speaker 4 We're already beating the margin because these are voters.

Speaker 12 These are not just babies being born in hospitals.

Speaker 4 These are voters.

Speaker 12 That's the way a politician looks at it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so Blake, I mean,

Speaker 4 what Sean said is they come here because it's better. I think that's true of past waves.
No,

Speaker 8 they come here because it is better, but that does not mean like they aspire to the culture that made it better. They also can just say, you are a giant pile of money.

Speaker 8 You are a dumb rube that I can take advantage of. And like we've seen that, for example, with the Somali community.

Speaker 8 Like, they remain quite clannish in the Minneapolis area not just they're literal clans but like they're sort of closed off you remember the justification for Ilhan Omar the defense of her marrying her brother included the fact that when she first got married she did not get married under any governmental system it was only within their internal religious system and they're well known for having pretty elaborate operations to skim government money in sinister ways because they don't

Speaker 8 a lot of them just don't really see it as any sort of moral offense like oh this is a giant spigot of government money, and we can take it and use it for our own ends.

Speaker 8 It's like a way of making a living like any other. And yeah, there's this aspirational thing.
They are a growing power. They can say, oh, we're going into this society and we are triumphant.

Speaker 8 We are on the march. We are growing.
We can change it. towards what we want it to be.
And you see that assertiveness now in Britain. That's what that veteran is basically reacting to.

Speaker 8 Now you have Muslim members of parliament and they brag about, you know, I'm running for Gaza. I'm running to destroy the state of Israel.

Speaker 8 I'm running to ban Israeli soccer teams from playing, their fans coming to the UK. That was the thing they did.
And they, of course, brag, oh, we're Islamicizing the UK.

Speaker 8 We feel tremendous pain when we see, for example, a church converted into a mosque, which is happening in the U.S. It's happening in the UK.

Speaker 8 And they celebrate that. They have every reason to feel like they are winning and taking over.
Why would they assimilate to a sinking ship?

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, there's 50 Muslim majority, 50 plus Muslim majority countries in the world, and it's a simple question.

Speaker 4 And if you can't answer it in any sort of satisfactory way, then we've got a much bigger problem than most people are

Speaker 4 aware of or willing to admit. Why don't they move there?

Speaker 4 No, they're coming to the west, and there is a reason for that. Okay, so I have to I have to do the Rufo and Lomez

Speaker 4 bumper here. Oh boy.
And I just I told you in the break, I just feel bad bad for Rufo, that he's just, you know,

Speaker 4 he's the bit player in this world you're creating. That's okay, man.
You know, he'll recover. He'll recover.
We love Rufo. It's all right.
It's all right.

Speaker 4 I'm busting his chops, I think, is one of these expressions that would work. Let's go ahead and play it.
432, Rufo and Lomez.

Speaker 9 I think quietly, rational people are hoping that Trump solves their problem for them.

Speaker 15 There's no conservative equivalent to Jimmy Kimmel on network television, and something needs to be done about that.

Speaker 9 But I think the problem is related to trans ideology, and it is involved in online

Speaker 9 communities, whether it's popular or not.

Speaker 6 That is a common denominator that I think has some causation.

Speaker 14 Is America a force for good or a force for bad? Is the West a civilizational force for good or a force for bad?

Speaker 15 Do you believe in Bigfoot Christopher Ruffo?

Speaker 4 That's great. No, listen,

Speaker 4 I'm really excited about this show. I'm going to be a subscriber, absolutely.
Two great minds talking about the most important ideas. So,

Speaker 4 Lomez, Jonathan Kieperman, where do,

Speaker 4 have you guys released an episode yet of Bruce and Lomez?

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah, no, I think the first one's being released today. So,

Speaker 7 as we've gone into the last week's news, all of, again, the psychodrama that's been going on.

Speaker 7 We try to unpack some of that, talk about some of the elections, talk about the death of Dick Cheney and kind of what that means and the trajectory of the right over the last 20 years.

Speaker 7 It will be a weekly show,

Speaker 7 actually twice weekly, once Friday, once Tuesday. Subscribe at YouTube, anywhere you get your podcasts, Blaze TV, Rufo and Lomez.

Speaker 4 Rufo and Lomez. I'm genuinely excited about that clip.

Speaker 4 I want to get to this Sidney Sweeney

Speaker 4 viral clip just because

Speaker 4 we've got four dudes.

Speaker 4 Makes sense, right? Let's go ahead and play. By the way, this is, she gets asked by, I guess it's GQ's Catherine Stoffel.

Speaker 4 And Blake, you're going to be the first one I throw to after this, so get ready.

Speaker 4 But she's asked, you know, don't you think it was a bad idea for you to talk about genetic superiority because you're white? 426.

Speaker 16 I mean, the president tweeted about the genes ad, or Truth Social about the genes ad. And that just seems to me

Speaker 16 like a very crazy moment.

Speaker 16 for anyone and I wondered

Speaker 16 what that was like. It was surreal.
It was surreal.

Speaker 16 But the risk is that, you know, there's a chance that somebody will get some idea about what you think about certain issues. Like, do you worry about that?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 16 The criticism of the content. White people shouldn't joke about genetic superiority.
I just wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about that specifically. I think that when I

Speaker 16 have an issue that I want to speak about, people will hear.

Speaker 8 Man, I saw a line on it that was so great where there's so many layers of like feminine social engagement going on that the interviewer. I want to give you an opportunity.

Speaker 8 No, like I am kind of ordering you to say this, but I'm giving you an opportunity.

Speaker 8 I'm not understanding why you're not taking the opportunity. And then Sidney just like effortlessly shooting it down.

Speaker 8 I am not equal to this level of social adroitness.

Speaker 8 I would die horribly in that situation, of course.

Speaker 8 But Charlie, you know, Charlie obviously, he was not like,

Speaker 8 he would weigh in on this. It was pretty funny.
He liked to say, like, yeah, yeah, she does have great genes, doesn't she?

Speaker 8 So he would sometimes find this very amusing in a detached sort of way. So I think he'd be chuckling at how this is playing out now.

Speaker 8 And he'd be proud because it does reflect, even with the difficulties we had this week, there really is a positive vibe shift in America.

Speaker 8 Even though we had a bad midterm, it was partly because Democrats had to to look around and say, we've got to give a heave-ho to a lot of this really bad cultural stuff.

Speaker 8 And we are in such a better cultural place than we were a year ago, than we were five years ago.

Speaker 8 And, you know, that's why not even a year ago, this loser from The Guardian tried to dox our friend Jonathan.

Speaker 8 Instead, revealed that he is a beautiful man, and that man is going to now start his own show, and everyone's excited to watch it.

Speaker 7 It's a resentment against the beautiful and good. We must protect Sidney Sweeney at all costs.
Our beautiful Helen.

Speaker 7 I mean, the funny thing about this to me is that the underlying controversy here is that Sidney Sweeney is like implicitly acknowledging the existence of genetics. Okay, like

Speaker 7 the left wants to sort of present this idea that it's somehow like anathema, immoral. You know, it's a betrayal of our good senses.

Speaker 7 White people aren't allowed to have genetics. Yeah, you don't have genetics.
We don't believe in genetics or anything.

Speaker 4 It kind of goes back to our other conversation about where the West decided it couldn't believe in itself. Like, white people aren't allowed to do basic things anymore.

Speaker 4 We're talking about beautiful men here, John Davis.

Speaker 10 So glad I could be here for this discussion.

Speaker 4 You get the final word, my friend.

Speaker 10 You can't buy these jeans off the market.

Speaker 10 Speaking of good jeans, these come from God. What I love about that clip is that in just one screenshot, you don't even need to listen to it or watch it.

Speaker 10 One little snapshot of that, and you see the total destruction of the HR Karen

Speaker 10 HOA energy, the up-talking, the passive aggressiveness,

Speaker 10 the nitpicking. And then Sidney Sweeney's like, nah, I'm good.
You can actually just not denounce people on command. It's true.

Speaker 4 You can reject the premise. You can just say no.
I agree with Blake. There are so many layers to that.
So like, I think you're a terrible person and a lot of people do.

Speaker 4 But like, do you think that you do? And it's like, there is so much going on there.

Speaker 4 And it was like, to Blake's other point, it was like he just so incisively cut through it and just rejected the premise and said, I'm not playing your games, lady.

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