THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 108 — Stranger Things = Gay? College Football, Ruined? Spotify Wraps?

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Welcome to Thursday, Thought Crime. I'm Andrew Colvet.

We've got the crew kind of scattered across the country.

There's Danny. We've got Tyler.
Got Blake. We're going to have Jack Pasovic joining us in just a few.

But we thought we'd get it started on the proper time. Is this the proper time? I I think this is the proper time.

It's the new time,

you can't forget the time. We moved the time.
I'm in a different time zone, so that's partly the issue. And you know what else

trips me up? Although, Blake, you love this, is that Arizona, so now that I'm living in Arizona now,

they, the

whole like never changing the clock, so I'm like part of the year you're on Pacific time, part of the time, part of the year. All of the year we're on God's time.

It's God's time.

And I'm still a little confused about this. But Blake, you keep me straight.
Tyler, you're a lifelong Arizonan. Do you like that?

Yeah, I like not changing our clocks, but I wish we were Pacific time all the time.

Mountain Time's great. We're only two hours away from the East Coast.

We don't have these big three-hour gaps. I like having the three hours away from the further we are from the East Coast, the better.

We could go to Hawaii time. And

I'm a big fan of,

I just like being California. it there's something Arizona is definitely more California to me than it is like Colorado.
What about Utah? Utah is more Nevada.

Yeah, Utah. Nevada is definitely more California.
Utah is just a lot like Arizona. You guys are making these weird distinctions between states.

You know what's weird actually is Nevada, if you're in the south, it's more like California. If you're in the north, it's more like Idaho and Utah.
No, but I mean

mountain time, like Utah should be mountain time. There's mountain, there's like that's like a mountain state.
Arizona is,

I know, we have mountains, we have like big mountains, but we're not part of the Rockies. So we should be Pacific.
I mean, it's just the way. Central Times, not that bad.
Oh, well, okay.

I grew up on Central Times. They're in between everybody.

Well, Ohio's on Eastern Time, but Central Times, Chicago.

You mean Texas Times?

Yep.

How many times have we had this? Oh, wait, you're from discussion. You're from

Michigan. Yeah.
Sorry. I didn't mean to

devolve the conversation in such a way. way.

But I did mention Ohio State, and I think that's what we want to hit first. I mean, we have to.
We have to

the Ohio State. Yeah, so to set this up, it's

the. Yeah.
Oh, we talked about it on we actually talked about it on the show today as well. But it's very funny because it felt like a super eventful Thanksgiving weekend, which it was.

We had the attack in D.C.

We had the Somali fraud story really bubbling up. The Trump administration announcing huge changes to immigration.
We have

this escalation of the whole whole seditious six

issue and possible regime change in Venezuela. And if you take all of those things, I don't think any of them were the biggest story for most Americans.

The biggest story for if you're a normal, red-blooded, probably Trump voting American in the middle of the country, the biggest story of the weekend is that a college football coach went to a different college.

And we're talking, of course, about Lane Kiffin. He's the highly successful coach of the Ole Miss Rebels.
He coached them all the way to the playoff this year.

I think it's one of their best results ever. And if they get a title, I think it'd be, have they ever won a title before? I have to check.
Ooh, Ole Miss? Yeah, Ole Miss. I don't think so.
Ole Miss.

Oh, that's an interesting question. I don't believe so.
I think that would be their first ever title. And so he had all that success.

And then he got offered a shinier job at LSU just over the border in Louisiana. Decided it's a nicer program.
So he skipped town and he went away to it.

And we've got, I think we've got like clips of them giving him kind of a, you know, a single finger send-off and all of that.

So this blew up. And one, we can debate the actual story itself.
And I'm sure you have an opinion on that, Danny. But I also want to debate the state of college football generally.

And in honor of Charlie, who remains a

Oregon Ducks fan. on assignment with God.
I'm told this is called the Duck. I called it Ducky the Duck earlier, but I just made that up.

So he would care, Charlie would care deeply about the state of college football, so he would want us to discuss this. Yeah.
Yeah. That's that's the key here.

We're doing this like this is a pure ode to Charlie because Charlie would love this topic. And, you know, that was what was so great about Charlie.
He was, he was like as American as apple pie.

He was,

like, college football, that was his thing. Loved the ducks and loved talking sports.

Like, he used to tell me, by the way, that if he could do one thing on top of the show, that it would be to have just like a sports podcast.

And then we would talk talk sports, and people would get like, we'd get emails in the freedom of charliekirk.com and they would be like, this isn't a sports podcast. What are you doing?

I want to hear the news. But Charlie loved it.
And he also said, and Danny will attest, if he ever got out of politics, he wanted to be a college football coach. True story.

But this is a story that has captivated the nation to your point, Blake. Why? What is the story? I mean, you kind of went through it a little bit, but like, why has it captivated the nation?

Well, so Liam Kiffen has always been a slightly controversial figure in

the realm of college football.

He's been at a lot of different teams. He's had more than one awkward departure.

I'm mainly an NFL fan. I remember him just being a disastrous coach of, I think it was the Oakland Raiders, and this was 15 years ago or so, but he's

an interesting coach. He's often villain.
He's a Trump supporter. He's a vocal Trump supporting coach.
So you have all these different angles to it. And we've had this happen a few times.

In fact, I believe

we've had other coaches.

I always come at this from the NFL perspective. And so I remember,

I'm drawing blank. Who's the famous Alabama coach who won five titles? Nick Sabin.
Nick Sabin. Nick Sabin.
He bailed on an NFL team, I believe, to go to Alabama.

There was another coach, Miami, he was on the Miami Dolphins, and he skipped town.

What was it? That was really bad. No, no, I think Nick Sabin was the one who left

the Miami Dolphins.

Yeah, this is a Falcons coach. It was a Falcons coach who bailed.

That was Bobby Petrino. Yes, Bobby Petrino, he skipped town on the Atlanta Falcons after Michael Vick got arrested for dogfighting, and that team was clearly cooked.

And I think he said he was sticking around and then

just kidding, and he bailed. So we actually have a long history of coaches jumping from one role to another.

And certainly in college football, a very successful coach at a smaller program is routinely promoted up to

a bigger one so we've had guys who are in division two go division one we've had those coaches at the fcs level rise up to the bowl level but i think this one stands out the most actually because

it still is another competitive program it's one that has some pride and some history and you just have this purely mercenary angle to it of I have decided this program is just slightly cooler and slightly better and I'm just gonna take I'm gonna take the money and I'm gonna take the status and bolt to it but you probably follow this the most Danny so what do you make of all this yeah I mean the craziest thing of all this is Lane Kiffin didn't address his team when he left so he just left and he never told like the players privately beforehand so apparently they all found out from

the administration everybody else at the same time so that's kind of what made this even bigger and what blew up among the fans and then the players started like coming out and tweeting at Lane Kiffin

that he never talked to him. So that made it even worse.
But knowing Lane Kiffin, that's probably like really on brand for him.

This is totally Lane Kiffin. This is like

the most Lane Kiffin, Lane Kiffin thing that's ever been. But LSU, LSU actually plays at Ole Miss next year.
So that's going to be quite the game now.

It's going to be huge.

Go ahead, Tyler. Oh, I was just going to say, uh,

I was really interested to watch on X like how LSU fans reacted to this because it tells you a lot about LSU fans because all of them were like really excited about it.

And, like, I mean, that's such like a dirty way to like have that this all go down, this whole thing. And his and his statement, did we did we throw up his statement? His statement was like so BS.

It's like, oh, I haven't even read it. I want to know what it is.
Oh, you didn't have to say it's a Lane Kippen statement. Oh, man.
It's a tweet. Let's bring it up here.

Lane Kippen's tweet is like such BS. And it's like, if I was, I mean, look, I mean, this is like one of the dirtiest things that ever happened to Ole Miss.

And it's a lose-lose for Ole Miss now at this point.

What do you mean? Explain that.

Well, if they go, if they go and win, right? Because they have

a good team, like, which they're not going to.

They're not going to win a national championship. But

if they do make it, there's going to be all these questions surrounding like coaching. And like

they probably need a better situation coach-wise than what they're going to be dealt with for the remainder of the season.

They're not going to make it to the national championship, but like, let's imagine they make it to the national championship in their best case scenario and they lose, which is probably the best case scenario.

Like, this is going to live in infamy forever. Even if they get knocked out in the first game in the playoff,

like, Lane Kiffin's going to become like the most hated man,

like south of the Mason-Dixon line. Like, he is.
No, he already is. Check this out, Tyler.
Uh, throw up 354. This is actually like a true story.

Lane Kiffin claims old Miss Van tried to run him off the road. So, when he goes into Oxford, he's like, legit going to need a full detail security.

They're going to have to like sneak him into the venue.

What are they going to do when he's on the sideline? You know, like people are going to start throwing bottles at him.

Andrew, we had for our tour stop, so the Charlie Memorial tour stop here this last,

the entire stadium, basketball stadium was full of students. Yeah, that wasn't even a door.
Yeah, that was 10,000, 10,000. And by the way, we had over 50% of

that school

enrollment had registered for that event. They showed up.
Over 50% of the entire enrolled student body registered for the memorial. Rebels show up.

They show up. They're an enthusiastic crew, man.
They were really enthusiastic. Dude, I would not want to be Lane Kiffin dealing with that.

He's going to walk in there. Well,

next year, that's crazy. I want to go.
We should go.

That'll be fun.

Well, and LLC is probably going to walk in with not a great record either.

I bet with our turning point chapter there, we could do a heck of like a game day, college game day event there. We should actually really do this.

Here's the statement from Lane Kiffin. He posted this on X.
He said, after a lot of prayer and time spent with family, I made the difficult decision to accept the head coaching position at LSU.

I was hoping to complete a historic six-season run with this year's team by leading old Miss through the playoffs, capitalizing on the team's incredible success and their commitment to finish strong, and investing everything into a playoff run with guardrails in place to protect the program in any areas of concern.

My request to do so was denied by Keith Carter. Oh, he's making an enemy out of somebody here.

Despite the team also asking him to allow me to keep coaching them so they could better maintain their high-level performance.

Unfortunately, that means Friday's Egg Bowl was my last game coaching the Rebels.

Why I'm looking forward to a new start with a unique opportunity at LSU, I will forever cherish the incredible six years I spent with Ole Miss and will be rooting hard for the team to compete there, complete their mission, and bring a championship to Austin.

A great part of this, a great part of this is the players have already come out to say that it's total BS when he says the team wanted him to keep coaching.

Bryson Sanders said he has this quote, Despite the team asking me to keep coaching, I think everyone that was in the room would disagree. And then another guy here uh

son son tar suntarine perkins they have new names every year in this thing he says that was not the message you said in the meeting room everyone that was there can vouch on this so we already have the players calling lane kithen a liar uh it seems pretty sinister what's funny to me as a guy who's more into the nfl though is just

So he seems, it's villainous that he basically just bolted to go take what he thought was a better deal at LSU and didn't stick around.

But isn't that basically the highest value of college football at this point?

Every single college player, you can get paid now. So the amateur sports aspect is dead.
And

you can transfer without any serious penalties. We just have the transfer portal.
So aren't we effectively at the point where it's just...

Why wouldn't a coach be any different? If anything, at least the coach has to sign a multi-year deal. The players don't.
Every player is basically a one-year free agent.

College football, prove me wrong, college football is just a more mercenary, more, more bloodthirsty, more out-for-yourself version of the NFL. They have switched places.
Well, I totally agree.

Yeah, but in college football.

Go ahead. Go ahead, Danny.
I want to hear from you. Well, college football is better.
College football is so much better than the NFL because you get true rivalries. You get true underdogs.
You did.

You don't have true rivalries.

You still have that. Ohio State, Michigan, still the best rivalry in all sports.
It's not even a question. And

the Ohio State, I thought. Yeah, the Ohio State.

Well, I reserved the right. I don't need the D if I went there.

I just make it. That's the rule I'm coming up with.
Yeah, I get options.

There's real rivalries. There's real underdogs.
There's no underdog in the NFL. Everybody's a professional.
It's like

college football.

No, no, the team spirit and the crowds in college are also way more rowdy, which makes the game so much more enjoyable to watch and be there. It's just second to none to the NFL.

It's just kind of whatever.

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By the way, real quick, Cade Kaufman, regular commenter, regular donor, he donated two bucks and he says, My grandpa is a massive ole miss fan, and he was not happy.

That is to say the least, it seems the state of Mississippi, they are, well, they're called the Rebels. They're in revolt again.
They're in revolt against Louisiana. But I think that's a good thing.

They're going to.

Isn't that a funny thing that you just brought up? Like, okay, so we have to change the name of the Redskins and we have to change the name of the Indians.

But, like, somehow the Rebels have gotten off completely scot-free. I guess maybe because they know that local rebels.

Well, Florida State, if you look, Florida State still has the...

the guy in the red face paint riding the horse with the yeah with the seminal with the spear on fire and they throw it into the midfield it's pretty sweet which is bad it was just i was gonna

i was gonna you throw out a quasi square word but that's that's not charlie's mode which is super cool which is actually really a great thing and like you know what's so funny about this is you're celebrating warrior culture for native americans and somehow that became a bad thing anyways but the point is that i think it's fascinating that you know the rebels get to celebrate

you know, sparking a civil war and nobody's like nobody even blinks about the name.

I'm not in favor of getting rid of the name that's actually not true you see that's part of why that's actually why they've tried to get rid of it yeah no it's actually one of the reasons i would say this was pointed out by uh by scott greer in an essay where he was talking about the messy state of college football so i want to shout that out he pointed out so

this is a good example of how college football has actually been corroded and corrupted over time that

so this team People, let's be frank, they used to wave Confederate flags at Ole Missus Stadium all the time, and they used to have the Confederate flag in the Mississippi state flag.

But they banned them. Not even just discouraged.
They have banned them. They used to play Dixie regularly at Ole Miss games.
They got rid of that.

They used to have this Colonel Reb mascot who looked like this old Confederate officer guy. They got rid of him.

Yeah, they got rid of Colonel Reb.

The university was a key player. Now, now they're...
See if you guys can get this. Their freaking new

mascot is Tony the Land Shark. Yeah, that's what I think of.
That's what I think of when I hear the word rebel, a land shark.

And then the state actually the university played a huge role in campaigning yeah that's that's uh you have to bring up johnny no one can see what that is yeah tyler but colonel reb was like

the one of the best mascots yeah it was a great mascot it's iconic it's regional it's a real regional mascot i'm a yankee like colonel reb like the actual mascot that they used to have him dressed like it's incredible yeah it's great but they killed it and they're not bringing it back and the state, you know, the university played a key role in them changing the state flag.

They basically said, we need to change the state flag to get better recruits and get in more national football games. So it really is,

everyone wants to celebrate the rivalries. They want to celebrate the traditions in college football.
But it seems like all of those traditions get thrown out.

pretty quickly when there's slightly more money to be made for your program. And okay,

we have a term for that. It's just you're a professional sports league.
and

i i think there's a sad sad state of affairs it is becoming a little bit

the reason that lane kippin

blake needs to grow out that mustache uh i don't think i could grow that mustache i'm i don't have the power to look like i'm a prussian aristocrat yeah we can grow yeah yeah

the vladimir but mine would not be white like then

what were you gonna say danny well the one of the reasons that lane kippin like this problem is that he wasn't allowed to keep coaching is because the school didn't want him to keep poaching his players to bring them to LSU.

So they basically said, you're done coaching because they didn't want him around the program to take basically

half the oldness team with him to LSU. So in that sense,

the transfer portal has ruined some of college football in terms of roster management, but the traditions of rivalries, I think, are still there.

No, they're fading. They're degrading.
Here's the sad truth. Here's the sad truth about college football, Danny, that you're going to have to come to grips with, is that I agree with Blake.

It's basically more cutthroat and more greedy and more driven

by money. I think, and this is the funny thing than the NFL.
This is the funny thing about college football is the fans don't want to admit it.

They do not want to come to grips with the fact that college football is purely driven. This is why the Pac-12 doesn't exist anymore.

This is why you have West Coast teams playing in East Coast leagues. I mean, everything, this is why we have the

12-team college playoff. This is the root of every new change and every disruption in college football.
And the schools, they realize that this is a huge moneymaker.

So the ones that have are trying to make sure that they get in with the ones that have a lot more so that they, you know, they can't continue making more money. It's a revenue game.

But the fans don't want to admit it.

We do want to give Charlie his word on this. So we talked about rivalries.
Let's go. We were talking about.
This is when we were talking about another

topic. The pledge on whether you can,

you know, whether you should avoid watching the NFL, I think was one of the components of it. But let's play Charlie on college rivalries.
355. Can we talk about this? Can we talk about the injury?

By the way, I hate UW more than I probably hate Stalin. Okay.

And I can't believe you're a Ducks fan. Like, the odds of this

happening that you and I have worked together for this many years and you're a Ducks fan? Better yet,

Andrew was into it. So half of me was like, oh my gosh, the trolling that I would have over this would be.

But yet, even with that, I said, I actually feel really bad.

Oh, man, I miss him.

I miss him.

I miss how I would make fun of him and tease him when the Ducks would flop in the playoffs again this year. It would be funny.
Are they forever tenders for the playoffs? I think they are. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, oh, yeah. I was really pulling for.
What's their record at? Are they at one loss or two, Danny? Yeah, they're 11 and one.

They're a lot

of

Indiana, right? Yeah.

I shouldn't have been rooted against Oregon.

But my natural instinct is automatically to root against Oregon. Like every time.
And now I'm feel very, very conflicted

in honor of Charlie. But my natural go-to is like, as a Pac-12, as an ASU fan, is like Oregon just beat the living crap out of us for so long that it just is so hard to get.

All right, I think, Danny, do you have to, do we, do we have a hard out for you here?

Yep, I'm out of here. All right, all right.
Well, we'll bid farewell to Danny.

And while we wait for, I think Jack is going to join us, we do have another, we have another Rumble rant, but and I want to respond to it. I think hopefully one of us can answer this.

This is from Kyrie McAllen, who says, hey guys, what are the odds someone on the waiting list for Amfest will still get word a spot has opened because if there's no longer hope, I need to cancel my Airbnb.

Do you, Tyler or Andrew? Do you guys know the status on waitlist stuff?

That is a really good question. That is a great question.

I'll ask. Yeah, I think it's just the events email, events at tpsa.com.

I feel really sad because

I know one of our people

mentioned last week

they had a ticket that they wanted to donate, I believe, because they couldn't make it, but I guess that wasn't a possible change that we could make at this late stage of the game.

It's too bad, but it's difficult because I know tickets are tied to individual people, and they don't want to

get that all messed up. But thank you, regardless, Kyrie, for being a supporter.

Yeah,

I'm asking the events team right now, and one of them is writing back.

I see the typing happening.

So hopefully we'll know. And please forgive us this year because Amfest, obviously, with everything that that happened, I mean, it just,

oh,

I got an email here. Everyone was emailed that it won't happen and they'll get a discount code for 2026.

Alrighty, okay. Yeah, and we feel really bad.
Like, Andrew, I'm echoing this too.

We have the absolute largest possible venue that we have in the state of Arizona.

We have maxed out the maximum capacity that's there.

We appreciate everybody, and we're so sad that

people

can't make it, but this is a good reason. It's like, get your tickets early,

be there, and plan to be there for next year in particular, because

it's going to get big. And we have actually a special announcement I think that's coming for not next year, but the year following too.
We're making a two-year-in-advance announcement?

They're going big. The events team is going huge, and it's going to keep escalating.

We're going to use the way we'll have our speaker announcements for two years in advance so you will know who the biggest celebrities will be on the right two years from now it'll be like a time portal into the future uh we have some people responding to the the college football topic i liked uh unashamed unashamed girl for him says i hated that they added the money aspect to college college was way college football was way better before that they should be playing for the love of the game not of money and i get the appeal of that i think the biggest problem was it became about money for everyone else the coaches were making millions of dollars the assistant coaches could make millions of dollars.

The broadcasters were making billions of dollars. The schools were making millions of dollars.
So why were the players, to some extent, just

cattle practically? They were just a tool who could get plugged in. And yeah, they could get, they had the scholarship aspect of it, but even that is like so corroded at this point.

Being a student athlete is... In a lot of schools, it's practically a joke.
You can go to special separate classes for the athletes with special tutors.

They make sure you don't have to work too hard or have to know how to read as much as everyone else. And it's turned it all into a joke.

And that's always been one of my problems with college football as an idea is it's over time, it's turned our colleges into mockeries of what they're intended to be.

A lot of these are state-funded, taxpayer-funded institutions. Well, Blake, I have a question.
Maybe you know the answer. If not, we can look it up.

So now that, you know, say Archie Manning, who's getting paid apparently like ten million dollars is the highest play paid player in college football say he doesn't pass his grades you know there used to be a clause that if you didn't get passing grades you would get you you got sat you know on Sunday or Saturday rather is that still a thing Archie Manning $10 million man if he doesn't pass muster when it comes to academics I believe it still is the rule but the the deal is is that they have uh

okay if if the rule is that you have to pass your grades, but there's so much writing on this, well, we can't allow those grades to get into the way, and so that's why they have those systems where, okay, here's special classes you can take.

We're gonna make sure wink, wink, nudge, nudge, they're not too difficult. Here's some special tutors, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
They might really, really help you with your academic work.

This happens a lot. We have one scandal after another.

I remember for college basketball, there was a school, I think it was Danny's beloved Ohio State, but I might misremember, where basketball players could take basketball as a class for credit.

And I believe you could take it multiple times. Infamously, the instructor for this class, they had a quiz where it included the question, how many points is a three-point basket worth?

And that's extreme cases. There are players who do make the most of the college opportunities they get from going there for free.

But the temptation is always going to be towards diluting it, towards making it meaningless, towards just maximizing the money-making aspect of it. And I don't have a problem with that in pro sports.

I think it's weird that we do this with our taxpayer-funded institutions. So,

academic eligibility is still required to compete in college sports to maintain their NIL opportunity. So, it's actually tied to their paycheck.

So, they have to complete a specific number of NCAA-approved core courses, and they must maintain a minimum GPA for Division I athletes of 2.3 and they must be making reasonable progress to award a degree each semester, typically measured by completing a certain number of credits.

So that is so they have a credit requirement, they have a GPA requirement, and it's tied to their NIL opportunities. So fair enough.

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All right. All right, we're still waiting on Jack.

So how about we How about we jump into, because I don't think Jack had a funny take on this, but we have Spotify does this annual wrap-up or Spotify raps they call it and I know both of you two have

you looked at yours and you have what your most

your most listened to music is and we're going to force you to reveal it

I Tyler I think yours is less embarrassing than mine so why don't you stop why don't you start

with what you have to reveal you have to reveal your spotify rap no i i don't know i thought you were on here oh i'm first yeah you've got to reveal it, bro. Yeah, mine's kind of embarrassing, though.

Yeah, that's why we're making you reveal it. All right.

Mine is more embarrassing. Fine, I'll go first.
Okay. No,

yours is nice, Andrew. Yours actually looked like mine last year, and then

I made a cognizant decision to change how,

who controlled the audio in my car. No, so here's the backstory with mine.

We have one account, because they keep advertising to us.

You don't get to justify it first. We have to reveal it first.
Then you can make your excuses. Let's reveal,

let's reveal Andrew's, his Spotify rap. Let's got it.
I think it's 350. We have a collage for this.

Let's show up. What is Andrew's most listened to song? Oh, it's really zoomed in.
Oh, you guys are good on these things. I can't see that.

That's really tiny. You guys got to make it bigger images.
But luckily, I prepared for this, so I already know what his number one is. And it is K-pop demon hunters.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, the reality, though, is that K-pop demon hunters is actually Andrew, not his kids. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

We all know how

if I, if I admit that I know, like, basically all the words at this point, uh, yeah, it was funny because uh, Foz was like, dude, I had to outlaw K-pop demon hunters from our house.

Yeah, you didn't. You didn't outlaw it, Andrew.
No, my house. Who's to say I didn't at this point?

Mine's the same, Andrew. It's fallen off.
It's fallen off because one of the pages they do, they show you which ones you're listening to at different times.

K-pop is no longer in the, but it's still overall for the year. It's number one.
But that's only slightly less embarrassing than Moana 2 being our number two, most listened to album.

And then Mufasa, the Lion King, wrapping up the top three. But I will say,

I got Morgan Wallen and Forrest Frank Child of God 2 rounding out the top five.

Is Morgan Wallen your wife's or yours, though? No, it's more me. I grew up listening to country music, so I, yeah, Charlie and I never saw eye to eye on this.
He hated country music.

I hate country music. I think he liked that it was kind of American and mostly a conservative fan base and that sort of thing, but couldn't stand the sound.

So,

but I was always like, Charlie, you just don't know. You just don't know

how good it is.

Your top podcast was Garden Keeper Gus.

Is this a children's book? Is it like a radio drama? It's very calming and soothing. So when they are freaking out in the back of the car, they are calm.

You listen to Garden Keeper Gus, and they listen to a story, and we turn the speakers.

We set the balance into the back, into the back seats, so that we don't have to, so we can actually have a conversation among adults, and they can listen to their podcast.

That's the strategy. Come on, Tyler, back me up.
Blake doesn't have any kids. That's a Spotify original.
No, my kids in the car, they make me turn on

the Road Trip Trivia podcast. It's not on Spotify.
It's not on Spotify Trivia podcast. Yeah, Road Trip Trivia.
It's these two moms, and

it's very interactive. So

every time I get in the car, they immediately go straight to it. So I actually might turn on Guardian Keeper Gus and just put him to sleep in the back of the car.

I mean, that's good if you can put your kids to sleep. All right, so I think we're still...
Do we have Jack ready to join? He can join, but we still have to make sure.

we're gonna we're gonna do jack we're gonna do tyler's reveal and then bring jack up okay all right all right well we're gonna humiliate you before jack gets here then tyler so tyler what is let's let's put up 349 except i'm still not going to be able to see it i bet what's yours oh your top genre is screamo

i'm not embarrassed

i'm 0%

uh embarrassed by this at all and and mine last year actually was all kids stuff just like Andrew's was and then I'm we made the we made the change so now they have an iPad in the back that that connects to the to the radio so they get to use that screamo yeah I have your top your top song well give me give us a scream of something they have to play one of these screamo songs he's into yeah but no but this is the thing though my top card is screamo yeah my top artist none of them are screamo it's yellow card i think i had on there uh death calf for cutie like that's not that's like it's just like emote lewis the child

is great jack's mannequin which is like probably my...

I haven't even heard of most of these bands. You haven't? The Ataris? I've never heard of them.
No, I've never heard of them. I've never heard of Louis the Child.
I've never heard of Jack's Mannequin.

I've heard of Death Cab for Cutie.

Wait, you guys haven't heard of any of these guys? Death Cab for me? Yellow card I've probably heard of, but I couldn't have told you what genre they are. Oh, that's good stuff.

Screamo, EDM. Are you just listening to trance music while driving?

As long as they comment on it, we're good.

This is Jack's Mannequin. This is Jack's mannequin.
Okay, do we have one of the Screamo songs he likes? What's your favorite Screamo song? See, that's the thing.

Well, then Tyler shouldn't have listened to Screamo. Screamo.

We don't play it on the show.

The best era-driven Screamo that I listened to for my era was Taking Back Sunday.

Was Cute Without the E cut from the Team.

Can we throw that up?

You guys have to know this song.

Cute Without the E,

cut from the team. What? Cute without the E? Yeah, that's the name of the song.
That's the same thing.

You haven't heard of. I have never heard of this in my life.
You haven't heard of Take You Back to Team. All music for me was violently killed in 1991 when Nevermind came out.
And that's the end.

Are we getting that there? Are we getting it?

Is this your music?

Okay, so you just listened to a Tony Hawk's Pro Skater soundtrack? Yeah, that's right. Doesn't our audience remember Tony Hawk's Pro Skater on the N64?

We had all that stuff. That's wait, this is the chorus.
You ready?

See, Emo and Screamo in the 2000s was very normal. It was very normalized by skating and surfing and snowboarding.
Yeah, it was very normalized. So it was...

A lot of things were normalized in the 2000s. So kind of like skaters, skater trash and fake skater trash.

Yeah, very interesting.

You know, Yellow Card has made a big comeback. They've done like a world tour and stuff.
They were number one this month. Yeah.

Really? Yeah.

They got a song to number one.

I knew that they were making a big comeback.

People like, when bands have those kind of revival tours, it's very interesting to me.

It's like you listen to these bands when you're young, and then you get a little bit older, and then they go and tour again.

They reform the band, and and then their fans have all this money so then they just buy tons of merch and they buy more expensive tickets and they fill out these arenas you you really do have this kind of like second wave career if you're if you're a youth culture band it's fascinating

yeah uh i you know I actually have a good yellow card story. So yellow card in high school, when I was in high school, I worked at Target.

And so after school, I would go work at Target as like a, like I used to like check out as like a lane guy or a guest services guy and a girl worked with me and we I gave her

my yellow card CD to to remember you used to burn CDs

yeah yeah yeah I don't think I ever I think I had my uncle do that and I had him send me appetite for destruction so you'd buy the one person would buy the CD and then you'd like illegally burn it and like like duplicate it at home like a thousand times and so I always would get the C D's what because I worked at Target so I'd got this and everyone would burn it it.

So this girl burned the CD, and the reason why she did because she really liked yellow card because she was a violinist, because yellow card is violin punk, so they have a violin. Violin punk?

Yeah, it's like a punk. I thought punk was supposed to be violent, not violin.
No, it's very, it's very pop punk with a violin.

And her name was Lindsay Sterling, who ended up becoming a very famous violinist, if you've ever heard of that. Oh, that's that's pretty cool.
That's pretty cool.

So I still don't get how that's punk, but but we worked together at Target, and she burned my yellow card TD.

all righty okay okay poso is beating down the door and by the way the reason you can't see my spotify rap is because as per my declared uh state i don't subscribe to anything so i don't have spotify i don't follow any streaming services and so none of them can produce a yearly wrap-up of what i'm listening to

you have no good stories you have no you have you have no we have nothing no content because blake doesn't subscribe

you cannot get anything and he can't even he can't even participate in this next topic either because he doesn't. Exactly, but we're going to do it anyway because I have a big picture idea about it.

No,

we do have Jazz. He is a topic he really, really wanted to hit, but we need a video to set it up.
And so, it's only the number one topic

in the entire country. I mean, it doesn't surprise me that it wouldn't be on Blake's radar, but like literally everyone else in the country is talking about it.
Yeah, exactly.

But I won't because I keep myself pure and immune. But we have this video we need to be.

It's setting it up. And so it is clip 333.

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What in the wide world was that?

Before you say anything, Jack, can I say this?

When Jack brought this up originally and tweeted about this, I thought he was being over-dramatic. And I was like, this is like, this seems like it's way over-dramatized.

Not that Jack gets overly dramatic often, but sometimes on the pop stuff can happen. And so I'm like, I'm going to watch, sit down and watch this.
And I watched it.

And I was actually, I thought that Jack didn't go hard enough on this.

Well, so let's, let's, let's explain what we're talking about. So for people who might just be listening, also hi, or people who, you know, don't,

you have no idea what we're talking about, like Blake, for example. So this season five of the TV show, Netflix show, Stranger Things has just come out.
This is Netflix' number one show.

It is currently the Netflix's number one show worldwide. It's been a massive.
cultural phenomenon. The original season was all about 80s nostalgia.
That's what made it so big in the first place.

You hear the synth music. It's kids riding around on bikes.
So it's got a lot of allusions back to old 1980s, you know, movies and growing up like that.

And so similar to what Andrew was just saying about how youth brands and youth bands could have a second life, it's sort of like that same thing where it's, you know, this is a way for a lot of Gen Xers and, you know, elder millennials, Gen Yers to be able to sort of share the 80s with their kids.

And they've gone and they've been making the show gayer and gayer as the seasons go on. And in this scene, this is the, so this is a flashback, what you're actually watching back to season one.

So, what you're seeing here is them re-establishing something, or what they'd say, revealing something that actually happened in season one that they're only showing you now for the first time.

And I watched this scene, and you're seeing the

big bad right there of the whole series. We'll call him gay Darth Vader.
And what gay Darth Vader is doing, also known as Vecna, is he is

metaphorically,

you know, it looks like he is physically violating this young boy. We'll call him Gay Luke Skywalker

with his tentacle. And he is shoving his tentacle down Gay Luke Skywalker's mouth and

shooting his dark effluvia down the boy's throat. The boy's eyes roll backwards.
They,

you know, they, you know, they roll back in his head. He starts gagging.
And at which point, gay Darth Vader then starts stroking the boy's face and

his sort of neck also, his head also goes back in a form of pleasure. And to me, I watched this.
This was actually released prior to the season itself. And I said, guys,

this is

very clearly representative of a gay rape scene. And that's crazy that nobody is calling out Netflix for this, number one, for filming and putting something like this in, again,

this is their Keystone show. This is their

tent pole show. This is their blockbuster.
People have been waiting for this for four years for this very episode to come out. And that's the first thing you see.

And what was crazy is that people then came back to me and said, oh, that's not what it is, Jack. You're just making a big deal of it.
To Tyler's point,

no, no, that's really, really what it's representative of. Oh, it was like

it was more horrifying than I realized. And I sat down.
It's like right at the beginning. It's like they wanted this to be the lead off.

And it's super, everything about it's weird. Like, I was talking about it with my wife while we were watching.
We're like, I was like, oh, this is the thing Jack was talking about.

She's like, what is it? I'm like, it was like something, something gay happens at the beginning. And she's like, what are you talking about? And we watched it.

And I was like, there was, we went through it. There's probably 50 different ways they could have done this so easily.
It's like they, this was, this is like, this has to be intentional.

Like, all this is like, it's so clearly, weirdly intentional. And even, like, the scripting of it, super, like, none of it's necessary.
It has nothing to do plot-wise.

Like, there's no way that this actually is applicable to the story in any kind of way, other than it just being, like, super weird.

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So, wait, Jack, did you say, did you describe it? You said it was text, a textbook gay rape scene?

Representative, like representative of pedophile, you know, behavior.

And by the way, so there was a, actually, a professor from the University of Chicago sort of responded to my, I wrote an op-ed about this over the Thanksgiving break and sort of responded to my piece and said, and said, yes, that's true.

However, if you watch the rest, and the rest of the season kind of gets into this, where this character, his name name is Vecna, but I call him Gaydarth Vader, where Gaydarth Vader is then targeting other children, but he does so in a guise called Mr.

Whats It.

And

her point was, well, perhaps you could read it as a warning of grooming behavior.

And while that's all, you know, well and good, I just think this scene itself in a TV series, which has been marketed very largely towards children is just inappropriate.

It's just, it's so weird. I mean,

everything is. It's very graphic.
It's very graphic. And, you know,

the fact that we have to blur it out for, I mean, here's what I would say, Jack, to those people that were hating on you. It's like,

who

any age over like 15 wouldn't see this imagery and be like, that looks a little phallic? Like, you would, of course, see that. You could not see that by looking at that image.

And then him petting the kid's head. And

like, I'm kind of with you. It's It's with you, Tyler.
Like, it's worse than I imagine. And I get that, like, people are going to defend it as some sort of like make-believe.

But to your point, I think a lot of families watch this show. Am I wrong, Jack? I only watch season one.

A lot of families watch the show, yes. A lot of families watch it together, like, especially with teenagers and stuff like that.
And like, a little bit, like, my kids are kind of in the perfect.

My two older kids are kind of in the perfect.

I feel like 9, 10, 11, 12-year-olds are like, this is kind of like a really cool show to like that age group. Because it's just, it's not really scary, but it's scary enough.

And it's, you know, it's just kind of an interesting, you know, like Dick Jack said.

We've been asked, people are asking us to cut the video out because it's too disturbing to them. So I guess they're, they're definitely a great idea.

Yeah, no, I mean, you can just, you can just show us, you can just show us still.

But actually, what we could also show, which is separately from the video, which, and by the way, that's my entire point because the people who were like hating on me, and this, this this went viral this we got written up in international You know media over this and I had all these these I call them the stranger simps all the stranger simps were coming at me saying oh no, it's just you know, it's just like the scene in alien.

Don't you understand? They're they're just doing a bit from alien. I said well you understand that the movie Alien is meant to represent male rape.
But it's an R-rated movie.

Alien is an R-rated movie and the, they're called the face huggers in Alien are meant to represent male rape because

it's sort of this

creature that grabs onto your face,

injects its

sperm, spore, whatever into your body, then they become pregnant and then the pregnancy kills you.

So it was written and the writers of the original Alien movie have come out and said this, that that's exactly what they intended.

They were pro-abortion and they thought that if they could put this into the film, that it would make men perhaps more open to being pro-choice if they understood what it was like to be raped and then get pregnant.

Again, go look at the actual writers of Alien. That's what they said.
Like, I'm not making this up. So for people saying, oh, it's just like the alien scene.
Yeah, I know.

I understand what an homage is. That's what they're doing.
But what I do want to also point out, though, is, let's talk about some of the B-roll here, guys. Throw up, where is it? Where is it?

Where is it? Throw up just some of this B-roll, 334.

Just throw up 334 as B-roll while we're talking because, and, and some of this other stuff, because you can see in 334 and 339, 340, just scroll through those because there are numerous tie-ins to children's action figures, children's happy meals,

children's toys where they are clearly marketing this show towards children. I think that last one was, that was just the Teenage Ninja Turtles.
No, it was a little bit of a title.

No, no, no, it's like a crossover.

Okay, okay, okay. It's like a crossover.
Yeah, no, but,

you know, I think the point is, because I only watched season one, so I'm a little behind on Stranger Thing.

I thought it was cool, love the synth music, retro, 80s, but it was like the kids were really, really young. It kind of had this, like,

it was like a kid's, you were watching the world through these kids' eyes and being terrified at this stranger thing that was kind of creeping into their reality.

But it, and I, again, I could be misremembering, but it seemed completely appropriate for like a little, slightly older children to watch.

There was some, there was some like violence, but you know, that's that's that's probably as much as season one was some adult themes, but it was like it was basically you're following around these kids and their lived experience right around

the point is is that this scene is meant you know, it's a flashback to season one So it's almost like the writer so it's like Netflix came in basically Woke Flix came in and was like no season one was too family friendly So we want you to watch season one knowing that this is what actually happened right before season one right so the kid gets um or I guess during because the kid gets um Will this is the name of his character who's now gay Luke Skywalker, he goes missing and throughout all of season one, they're trying to find Will.

Well, now we found out this is what was happening to Will. He was being raped by gay Darth Vader the entire time.

Yeah,

it ruins it. It like makes it totally ruins it.
It ruins everything.

They ruined it.

Is this worse?

Is the first five seconds of this season of Stranger Things worse than

the last episode of

What do you call it on HBO?

That ruined The Sopranos? No, the Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones.
Well, I mean,

Game of Thrones wasn't. So the thing is.
What's worse, the last five minutes of the last episode of Game of Thrones or the first five minutes of the Stranger Things?

The thing about Game of Thrones is the stuff that was like the last five seasons of it, essentially. No, really, the last three seasons.

Two or three seasons. Well, so this, for me, for me, if people are like, why is Jack commenting on this stuff all of a sudden?

It's kind of like, this is sort of a return to form for me because my original

Twitter account and I had a blog going back in like 2012 through 2016 was all about ripping on Game of Thrones.

I did a blog called The Angry G-O-T fan. And so that was our focus the entire time was basically attacking HBO for what they were doing with Game of Thrones.

And so this is a little bit returned to form because now I'm the Angry Stranger Things fan, I guess. Way before a Critical Drinker, by the way, way before a Critical Drinker.
Although I love that guy.

I think he's phenomenal what he does.

So, Jack, you mentioned that this is kind of like pedophilia, grooming, like this is, you know, this is what some people are observing.

This is as a warning, but it's like, it occurs to me that the entire show is now,

in hindsight being 2020, is just one giant grooming exercise. That's what I said.

I've never watched you into a show.

Because Stranger Things just clearly seems to be. I said it was a sissy hypno program to turn you gay.
And I kind of suspect all three of you guys are. Your instincts were proven right there.

Wait, hold on.

No, Blake, Blake, I will unfortunately and begrudgingly admit that Blake was probably right about this.

But there is, do we have any of the,

okay, no, we don't have it here in these clips. There's a clip now in, so this is what's crazy, right? This is what they set it up with.

There's a new clip in the very last episode of this, you know, current, the current episode that had been released, where basically

Will,

the gay Luke Skywalker, and this is why I call him gay Luke Skywalker, because now he then talks to his lesbian friend,

Robin, Rockin' Robin, and she tells him that it's okay to be gay and you should just embrace your gayness. Do we do a bad? We have it.
Oh, we have the clip. Okay, I see it now.
I see it now.

She just looked perfect.

So god perfect. And it was right then and there that I knew she was the one.

That with Tammy, I would finally be able to be myself, you know, all of myself.

Because there was always this part of me that kind of scared me, you know.

But I thought that if Tammy loved me,

all of me, you know, I

wouldn't be so scared anymore. And then he showed up.
Steve the hair, Harrington. Oh, God.
You probably can't guess the rest. And that's when it hit me.
It was never about Don't App Tammy.

It was always just

about me.

I was looking for answers in somebody else, but

I had all the answers.

Just needed to stop being so god

scared.

Again, that music you heard in the background was not synth wave. It was the undulations of the sissy hypno burrowing into your brain.
You guys just, you gave into it for fun. No, Blake is right.

Blake is totally right.

So, so what happens right, what I was referring to is, and I see what's going on, right after that, Will has this sequence where he decides to embrace himself and then he is able to exhibit, you know, basically like force-like powers the same way that Darth Vader does so gay darth vader and gay luke skywalker both have these force powers now and are able to use them to fight each other hold on well i guess like i guess it did receive

gay darth vader kind of use the force on him if you get what i mean oh man well oh no

oh

yeah that's dirty that's very dirty um so he but what you said is interesting jack you said that you said it as they have to because she said it in that clip where i just had to embrace me so you and you were saying will had to embrace himself and he gets these powers but like isn't that just some sort of like subliminal subliminal license to be entirely narcissistic to just be completely obsessed with self to worship self to

yeah that's okay i'm just making sure that like it's that on the nose No, it's that on the nose, the entire thing. And so he gives in and they've been playing.

And well, and I will tell you, by the way, that the and this is so the full season hasn't been released so the sequence that they specifically mention not just giving in to self but it shows him growing up with another boy

and

as they're very young so this idea that they're trying to imply is that he's been romantically sexually attracted to his best friend all along and there's a theory that a lot of people have been talking about producer foes you know, totally agrees, by the way.

You should definitely get him on this episode.

Where, you know, it almost seems like they're playing it out that he and the best friend boy are going to kiss or are going to have some kind of relationship or something like that.

As if, so not only are they going back and recasting season one, it's like they're going back and recasting the entire show to be about child abuse,

this weird pedophilic scene with Gay Darth Vader, and now just about embracing gayness.

So it really goes back to like what a lot of people have been warning about Netflix and that movie Cuties and a lot of things that Netflix does to just take stuff and then wokeify the heck out of it.

Are we going to get a scene, you think, in the season finale where maybe like the two boys will make out with each other and then they'll go.

like maybe someday this racist country will have a first black president and he could make gay marriage legal yeah literally he'll be like, that's literally

gay marriage, that doesn't make sense. And they'll say, like, we can make it make sense.
Yes, we can. And then it will fade out.

It's like the Obama hope poster. That is not the same thing.
No, no, they'll like rule credits. Yeah, they'll meet another boy who comes in to help them in the final battle, right?

And they're like, what's your name? I go by Barry. But that's.
Yeah.

Yeah, he's Barry. He's an exchange

from Hawaii. I go by Barry.
I see a student from Hawaii, right?

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Jack, just sorry to belabor the point, but are they saying that homosexuality is just self-narcissism?

So I don't think so because I don't think they're that self-aware.

I think the general message is that

being homosexual is good, that you should follow your heart, do whatever you feel like, your impulses are all that matters, your urges are all that matters, do whatever feels right and you be you.

And this, you know, if you watch a lot of Netflix, we know that Netflix has a huge LGBTQ section. We know that they inject these storylines into property after property over and over again.

And I think it's, I don't, I don't think it's. I don't think they're trying to be that on the nose.
I think they literally think it's good writing, which it's not, obviously.

What I do find interesting, though, is

I don't know if there might be, and Blake, you might, you know, I'd like to get your take on this.

It almost feels a little subversive too, because again, they're showing that the child who was the first one to be abused by Vecna then later goes on to become gay.

So it's like, what, what, what mean?

What, what mean, Netflix?

So it's like, it's like, is there some guy who's like in the background, like, who's actually like closetly, you know closetly like conservative who's like what if we what if we had vecna abuse him and everyone just kind of went along with it but he actually is like putting a subliminal message inside the you know underneath that that overt message like a straussian kind of thing

maybe i got i just think it's all sissy that's a glass half full that's a glass half full uh take on it jack after your op-ed you might be well yeah that well it's in the op-ed

very end of i say it in the very end of my op-ed, like, or maybe is there like an extra little

something going on there. A little bit because, because what I don't know that we have stats on this that are provable.
Maybe we do. I should look them up.
But, like, do we have stats on, you know, if

you have a percentage of people that are, that are that are self-described, like they were abused as a child.

So, in the op-ed, I did research for this.

I did, I did look this up, and there was a Vanderbilt study from 2022 that said, that found that hetero, or excuse me, homosexual adults reported instances of child abuse at a three to four times higher rate than the heterosexual population.

Wow. That's, well, maybe you're right then.
Maybe there is some weird tie-in. Maybe, maybe the writers, some writer in the writer's room looked up the same stat that you just referenced in your op-ed.

One could do that.

And so they're trying to kind of like sneak it in, which obviously, because obviously it's totally at odds with everything that the characters are saying, you know, embrace yourself, just be yourself, whatever, whatever.

But also,

you know, it's like, it's kind of contradictory because we don't see him, you know, being like this before

the

scene. We only see it after.

Foz just dropped something in the chat that convinced me that this is really just like the whole like Stranger Things

five seasons or whatever is just like a gay sixth sense.

Because in 335, we have a clip. Maya Hawk says she wouldn't exist if her parents hadn't aborted her sibling.
Like that, I mean,

this is dark. 335.

My mom wrote this really beautiful essay about her abortion that she got when she was really young, and about how if she hadn't have had it, she wouldn't have become the person that she'd become, and I wouldn't exist, and how both of my parents' lives would have been totally derailed, and she hadn't had access to safe and legal health care, fundamental health care.

And I, of course, like wealthy people will always be able to get abortions, but so many people, because because of this ruling this like week will not only not be able to pursue their dreams, but actually lose their lives and be unsafe.

Was she seated on that in like a dark?

Was she seated cross-legged on? I didn't miss that. I think she had her leg under her, yeah.
Oh, that's super

odd. That reminds me of that Pramala Jayapal tweet where she was like, abortion is healthcare, full stop.

And then she just got ratioed into oblivion.

A really dark thing, a lot of people on the abortion topic, what's clear is a very common normie sentiment on abortion is you're not you're you're not killing a separate human being.

It's just, I guess, you know, we have D and D in Stranger Things I've heard, Dungeons and Dragons.

They think it's just, if you get an abortion and then have a kid later, you just, you re-rolled their stats. You, you just, you rolled the dice for a different kid.
The kid, same kid came back.

They're just different. Yeah, that's the wishful thinking from the

like that you really only killed someone maybe if like you never have a kid at all. But otherwise, yeah, you're just re-rolling their stats.

No, this is something where it and by the way, so there's another angle to all this as well. Do you guys know about the Warner Brothers deal? Haven't heard about that.
No, what?

You guys, Andrew, have you heard of this all the big acquisition that's going on? Oh, yeah,

something about it. Yeah, vaguely.
Yeah, so Warner Brothers Discovery is currently up for sale.

And what's really interesting is that Warner Brothers Discovery is also the parent company of things like CNN, HBO, like all this stuff, right? And so, one of the top bidders for this is Netflix.

So, they're coming in with like this Netflix, which is known for being one of the wokest,

you know, organizations on the planet. One of the wokest things that they have is, you know, this is where,

you know, where all of every, pretty much every show they get, they're either going to put something woke in there, they're going to make a lot of children's content, including gay characters, including LGBT characters.

There was one, it was like a,

is it about a couple, I remember it was a couple of months ago, where it was like just two nights, and they just started being gay all of a sudden for no reason.

This is where one of the, this is where, of course, Cuties came out, which was just a straight up pro-pedophilia

movie based in France. And I believe, if I remember correctly, there was a writer, what was that show,

Paranormal Park, I think, where they had trans characters. And I think the creator of it was actually attacking Charlie, like making fun of Charlie after he was killed, was another Netflix show.

I forget exactly what he said, but it was,

I remember that being another Netflix show with a trans character. And so imagine, if you will, right,

how we would have to respond if Netflix all of a sudden got in charge of like the loony tunes at warner brothers got in charge of like bugs bunny and daffy duck and also by the way wb also owns like what else um all of the dc superheroes so like superman batman wonder woman green lantern who i believe they already made gay in in warner brothers the flash etc i'm not i'm not sole on this making a big difference i mean we already have an example of beloved characters getting taken over by a turbo gay company, and it's called the Disney Corporation.

They've made a lot of stuff really gay. They didn't get turbulent.

But

you're just proving my point, though,

that if Netflix gets this, you know, it takes over Douglas Bunny. My guess is

another company already has heap big gay. I just don't think we're going to see a lot of gay Bugs Bunny because when was the last time you saw anything related to Bugs Bunny?

I guess they made a new song.

My kids watched Bugs Bunny every day. Like every single day.
They love it.

Are they making new Looney Tunes, or do we just have the old Looney tunes? They are making new ones. There's new ones.
Yeah, there's new ones. There's new Looney Tunes.
All right, there's new ones.

There's a whole new show where it's like

it's got like an overarching plot, basically, you know, where they, you know, the character is kind of the storyline's like flowing.

We have epic arcs about Bugs Bunny.

The epicist.

Bugs Bunny's going on at Buildings Roman. Bugs Bunny is following the human beings.

So the other angle of this, there's two other companies right now that i think are in a bidding war um over

over warner brothers and so that's i'm just saying like if netflix gets in like i i'm coming for it like this is insane this is completely insane and i can't imagine how you do this the other two companies are uh comcast which honestly i'm obviously not a huge fan of since they run excuse me myth now

and then uh paramount which is interesting because paramount of course um yeah they have paramount plus and they have yellowstone which of course i've been quite outspoken on, but they did also just,

you know, take over CBS News. They gave that to Barry Weiss.
So it, you know, it seems like they're trying to at least do something to differentiate themselves there. Jack, you're going to love this.

Netflix would be insane. You're going to love this.

They are, Jack. It's that

they're quietly moving to the right over there with CBS. Guys, we got a $25 dono from Zuzu's Pedals.
You're going to like this. You're going to like this.

Zuzu's Pedals points out Netflix got a lot gayer

when Obama got on the board, presumably right after saving those kids in Indiana at the end of season five of Stranger Things. I canceled Netflix three months ago, and so should you.

That's such a good point. And

you're right.

I totally, it totally slipped my mind as we were having the conversation that Obama is, I don't know if he's on the board specifically, but they have a major, major deal between Barack, Michelle Obama, and

the board of Netflix. He definitely got a huge contract to make those documentaries that

I was looking up. No, it's documentaries and feature films.
They did the whole thing with Julia Roberts about like the,

it was like, what was like an energy wave kind of thing, like crashes and, you know, everyone loses patents. It's like the end of the world one.
Oh, yeah. Susan Rice got on the board of Netflix.

Susan, right? Well, okay, so basically Obama, like Susan Rice was Obama. The appendix.
So that's what it was.

Susan Rice gets on the board.

But

the Obamas are clearly deeply in bed with it.

So how do they think we're going to react if the Obamas then take, like, imagine if the Obamas have a direct line to controlling CNN and controlling like everything the WB does. It's like, no, that's,

I would go to war over that. I would 100% go to war over that.
It's leave the world behind. That was the thing.
Oh, yeah, that was the leave the world behind. That's it.
Yeah, he made that.

And by the way, by the way, everybody, I remember all those conspiracy theories about how, you know, what did they know? Did they know something was going to

happen? And then there was the scene where all the Teslas,

which people thought was like an intentional dig at Elon Musk because all the Teslas get taken over by some mysterious power or force or alien beings and they just start crashing all these Teslas.

I'm telling you,

this is absolutely the Obamas are trying to take over media. They are trying to take over a media empire.
They've already done it with Netflix, which by the way,

I'd love, because I think Stranger Things started like almost 10 years ago. So that was before the Obama partnership.
So before Susan Rice was on the board, before they had the Obama partnership,

he was still president when it started, or at least certainly when they were making the show. But now, right, now they're required to do all this extra stuff.

So they even have to go back to season one and make it all gay. And in fact, actually, one thing that's really interesting just occurred to me as well.

They've also caught Netflix stealth editing Stranger Things, where they will, because it's a streaming service, right?

So, you don't have DVDs of it, so they'll go back and they've actually like slightly edited certain characters and certain storylines as the show is going.

So, if you go back and watch season one right now, yeah, yeah, there was a whole scene where one character was kind of like a peeping tom

of the character Jonathan was peeping on Nancy and they like basically like re-edited the whole sequence so that he was just sort of like outside but didn't mean to be looking in or something.

So when he had, there's the guy with the

shutter camera. And so they re-edited.
So if you go back in season one and look at it now to do a rewatch,

it's like a slightly different, you know, a slightly different narrative. Wow.
So Jack's crazy. On a scale of one to ten, how big is this story worldwide?

I mean, it's the number one show in the world right now. It is the number one show.

And don't think for a second that lots of kids are not watching it because they are.

And it's something, honestly, where it

people say, like, oh, why do you care? Just don't watch. It's like, no, guys, we actually do have to pay attention to how the masses are being propagandized.
And that's exactly what's going on here.

Oh, I totally agree. The issue,

you know, the issue that I would also, this is why we talk about the Super Bowl so much and why we're doing this, the, the,

the, uh, the, the sporting event halftime show later uh you know later next year yay sports and yay sports and

and I would also add you know I'd also add that you know you you have to know what you're up against because millions of people who make decisions in in politics who make decisions in media who then go on to uh just just just exist in the world, they are now all going to have this mental model.

This will be the mental model that they are given. This is where most people get their stories from.
That's where they get their beliefs from. It's where they get their history from.

It's from watching movies. There's no more powerful instrument in the entire world, movies, TV shows, dreaming, et cetera, that people get this from than here.
And that's why I call it out.

That's what, whether it's Game of Thrones 10 years ago or, gosh, almost 14 years ago when I started doing that to

Netflix now, to Star Wars back when they were doing that and they were making everything crazy.

Disney got really mad at me over the Star Wars thing. Actually, Ryan Johnson as well, who was the writer of the second Disney Star Wars movie, because I pointed out that in the Disney Star Wars films,

all the heroes were this like diverse band of rebels, and all of the villains were white men. Every single one was a white man.

And all of the heroes were not.

And of the heroes who were white men or the one straight white woman, they were all killed one by one from the old movies. Just saying, just saying, I'm noticing things.

I'm just noticing a few things here. You're just noticing the crime of noticing.
Jack, why don't you take us home? It's been a fun episode.

Thanks so much, guys. Pay attention to what's going on.
Don't be a stranger, simp. And ladies and gentlemen, as always, go out there and commit more thought crime.

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