Remembering Hurricane Katrina

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Speaker 1 i'm jane marie and this is the dream this week marks 20 years since hurricane katrina hit our southern coast At the time, I was a very junior producer at This American Life.

Speaker 1 I'd only reported one piece, ever, and it was about a shop in Chicago that sold spy gear. Nothing like reporting on a natural disaster.

Speaker 1 About a week after the flood, Ira Glass, Lisa Pollock, and I went to Houston to tape at the Astrodome, which had become a massive shelter where folks who had lost their homes were convened to find new ones, or to get medical care, or food, or rest.

Speaker 1 I brought Lisa in to look back on our time there and to revisit that reporting, the pieces we made 20 years ago, which you'll get to hear.

Speaker 1 Let's back up to, you know, before the levees broke, it was still like a big story, you know, like the storm was bad.

Speaker 1 And we had started brainstorming of like how we wanted to cover the hurricane. And of course, the rules of what gets on this American life are weird.

Speaker 1 And I don't remember who pitched going to Houston, but it was like, we were just having these brainstorm meetings kind of every day at that point.

Speaker 2 I feel like it would have been us. I mean, I, I, I, well, because I want to go there.
I want to go someplace where something's happening.

Speaker 1 The first thing I think I learned when we were planning this is like, because we had such a hard time finding a vehicle at a hotel.

Speaker 1 Remember that? We had to drive around in that moving van that didn't have seats in it.

Speaker 1 Yes, I forgot about that. We were in like a budget rental van, moving van, because it was the only vehicle we could find.

Speaker 1 And so we flew into Houston, we got the moving van, and then we stayed at like a really bad motel.

Speaker 2 That is what I remember.

Speaker 1 I will always remember the bar of soap

Speaker 2 because

Speaker 2 it was like

Speaker 2 generic soap. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 And it was the thinnest bar of soap. And then I remember the towel being like kind of as thin as, you know, a

Speaker 1 really scratchy. A little towel.
Towels.

Speaker 2 That was a really bad hotel. It was.
Motel.

Speaker 1 But, but, you know,

Speaker 2 people had nowhere to live. What are we talking about?

Speaker 1 I mean, people had nowhere to live, but also a lot of the hotels in Houston were being used. There was the voucher system, right?

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 like the nicer hotels were booked up kind of right away

Speaker 1 by giving people a free place to stay for a little bit.

Speaker 1 And so we had to kind of stay outside of town, which if you've never driven around Houston, holy moly, that town is big.

Speaker 2 That was very far.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Beltway. There's a beltway.
I don't know if they call it the Beltway, but it's...

Speaker 1 It's over an hour side to side, that city.

Speaker 1 So we were kind of all over the place so we get there we get this like weird moving van one of us has to sit on the floor in the back and we head to the astrodome

Speaker 1 which

Speaker 1 was a little bit better than what the super dome had been described you know like the roof wasn't caved in or anything but it was it was oh it was bad chaos do you want to describe it

Speaker 2 actually

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 2 i mean i just remember it was cots and cots and cots

Speaker 1 and announcements, announcements, announcements over the loudspeakers. Bright lights.
They never turned the fluorescent lights off.

Speaker 2 And it was, you could tell that like a lot of people were ill.

Speaker 2 And so it had like a germ haze and like big bottles of sanitizer that probably weren't that effective. It just felt so.

Speaker 2 And all these people, some people just

Speaker 2 collapsed on the, on the cot in the middle of the day in the the bright fluorescent lighting and

Speaker 1 it was it was tough there wasn't a plan yet really

Speaker 3 so

Speaker 1 it was a lot of just sitting around waiting for the powers that be to announce what to do next you know i felt like nobody well first of all not everybody had their cell phone

Speaker 1 Not everybody had their wallets or anything.

Speaker 2 People didn't have, yeah, people didn't have ideas. They didn't have money or driver's licenses or anything that you would need.

Speaker 1 It was really chaotic, and the way that the government at that moment chose to manage it was with National Guard, I think. Those guys had the with the machine guns, but there wasn't like a plan.

Speaker 1 One program that they did kind of have slightly organized, but it wasn't really organized.

Speaker 1 I don't think there was like a vetting process, but there was a room outside of the superdome, which housed all of these tables from different states

Speaker 1 and and like luring people to their state.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 It was one of those efforts by lots of different types of nonprofit organizations.

Speaker 1 So, you know, sometimes it would be like a church would be funding people moving to Wyoming and a, you know, another kind of organization would be funding people moving to Michigan.

Speaker 1 And like no one was taking advantage of it.

Speaker 2 I know. That was so weird.

Speaker 1 Well, the tables, the different states were giving away different things, but jobs, utilities paid for, apartment, car, like it depended on what state you were going to go to, what they had to offer.

Speaker 1 But it felt like being at a science fair, like a, or like a school.

Speaker 2 I was going to say like a bake sale almost. It was so low-tech.

Speaker 1 Poster board with the word Colorado written on it.

Speaker 2 The Colorado table, yeah.

Speaker 1 We can play my piece.

Speaker 1 Forgive the way I'm doing my video. It was my second time ever recording my voice, and Ira was directing me.
And

Speaker 1 if people don't already know, like he, you know, wants it flatter, flatter, flatter

Speaker 2 oh my god that's I mean my but mine's the same the same like you're dead it sounds like you're dying and you're depressed or something yeah and I just sounded so quiet like I don't want to say anything yeah back then yeah yeah same

Speaker 1 and I'm mushmouthed and I just I don't know what I'm doing but anyway so this was like

Speaker 1 this is a little bit of a bright spot

Speaker 5 this story eventually Colorado did actually manage to get some people to relocate

Speaker 3 They got 35 people after two weeks of trying and the reason people finally said yes was desperation.

Speaker 3 FEMA had let everyone know that the temporary housing was ending, hotel vouchers were ending for families that were in hotels and people were being moved out of the astrodome.

Speaker 3 First in line for the bus to Colorado were twin sisters, Coquini and Kayla. They're six.
And here's what they know about the place they're about to move.

Speaker 6 I know that it's beautiful. It's a beautiful place and it has lots of mountains.
And I know that

Speaker 6 it's so beautiful anybody will anybody will want to go there where did you hear that

Speaker 6 I heard it from a snow

Speaker 6 a snow movie that like snow dogs and a snow dog it took place in um

Speaker 6 what's the name of the place

Speaker 6 Colorado and Colorado Colorado

Speaker 10 How's the last couple of weeks been?

Speaker 6 It's like a adventure. Let me tell you.
It's like an adventure that we're going all over.

Speaker 6 We've been almost everywhere. We had so much fun.
We went to Baton Rouge, we went to the shelter,

Speaker 6 and then Alexandra, then back to Baton Rouge,

Speaker 12 then

Speaker 6 we had to live in a hotel. The Scottish.
Yeah, the Scottish Hotel.

Speaker 12 And sweets. That's weird.

Speaker 3 When I talked to their mom, Cookina, she said that they overheard her talking on the phone, telling a friend that the last few weeks have really been an adventure. She was being sarcastic.

Speaker 3 But the girls picked it up. And just as well, it took a little more convincing for their mom.

Speaker 15 I thought at New York, the cost of living is too high to start, make a start there. And I thought, I don't want to go to Florida by any more storms, so Colorado seems safe.

Speaker 3 And why not Houston?

Speaker 15 Well, I was trying to establish in Houston, but like I said, I only had 14 days to get everything done. Otherwise, we'd be on the street trying to get it done.

Speaker 13 So, when I heard Colorado, I jumped on it.

Speaker 9 Oh, Jane, you ought to be ashamed. You let the boy kiss you and you don't know his name.

Speaker 3 At this point, the girls decided I was done talking to their mom and they wanted the microphone back, which they suddenly realized was real. And I actually was from the radio

Speaker 3 and they had business.

Speaker 6 And about the hurricane and our sister and brother, we can't find them.

Speaker 3 You can't find your brother and sister?

Speaker 11 No.

Speaker 6 When Katrina hit,

Speaker 6 we haven't heard from them since we left.

Speaker 6 If Kiana and Jamal is listening to this, we love you and we miss you.

Speaker 3 We met lots of people at the Astrodome who were still missing friends and family.

Speaker 3 There's an office that reunites families with listed survivors in their locations, but their mom says the last time they saw Jamal and Kiana was when she she dropped them off with their dad and grandparents in New Orleans before evacuating, just before the storm.

Speaker 3 She's acting confident that they're okay. So the girls are acting confident too.

Speaker 2 I love that story. They're like, we got to stay in this hotel and suites.

Speaker 1 Really cute.

Speaker 2 Oh my God, that was really good.

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Speaker 1 But when we went out together, you and I, you had this story about the vouchers for apartments, and I kept fucking up during that reporting because I hadn't, I'd never done that sort of reporting before, and I didn't, it was so

Speaker 2 wait, how did you fuck up?

Speaker 1 Well, because I was so racist, and I kept stepping in to try to help people.

Speaker 1 And you and Ira would have to be like,

Speaker 2 you know, like, shut up, like, don't, because you just let them be racist.

Speaker 1 yeah, or just, or just, you know, let the story happen as it's happening. And it was so hard for, I was just, I was inexperienced, I didn't really understand what my job was.

Speaker 1 And when I was seeing like a whole bus full of black people being

Speaker 1 put through the ringer by these racist white people, plus, we had, you and I had been out in the world those couple of days. Yeah.
I had been observing a lot of casual racism.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I believe there was an Applebee's near our hotel.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 the bartenders and the people kind of sitting near the bar were just like using the N-word and talking about how their city is being overrun and all the crime that's been coming in.

Speaker 1 And it was like people were really very casually super racist.

Speaker 2 The paper actually had to write a story saying there isn't more crime here. because of all these refugees from Katrina.

Speaker 1 But it was what all the white people were talking about. Just how destroyed Houston suddenly was and was going to remain if these people, you know, kept their housing vouchers and stuck around.

Speaker 2 It was insane and offensive and ridiculous.

Speaker 14 It's 3 p.m. when we get to the housing center and it's not a happy place.
There are hundreds of people here, slumped in folding chairs, jostling in lines, pleading for volunteers to help them.

Speaker 14 Tense-looking cops are everywhere, in soldiers and camouflage fatigues. It makes the DMV look like a day spa.

Speaker 14 In the section of chairs where we're standing, there's this sudden wave of movement. People stand up and there's some yelling.

Speaker 14 Turns out an official with a bullhorn just told the whole group to leave and come back tomorrow. They won't get apartments today.
And one of the women standing near us has clearly reached her limit.

Speaker 19 You should have apartments first

Speaker 19 before you bring the people in, you're bringing the people in before the apartments is available.

Speaker 21 Now we see. Her name is Ina May.

Speaker 14 She's been here since early this morning, she says, just like she was told to be, looking for a place for herself and her teenage sons.

Speaker 14 And at this point, the only way to manage her frustration is to share it with everyone she sees, including apparently one of the less tolerant cops in the room.

Speaker 20 The police just told me that they would arrest me, you know what I mean, and put me out.

Speaker 8 Put me out where?

Speaker 8 Where are they going to put me out at?

Speaker 14 Why did the police threaten you?

Speaker 19 Oh, if we get loud and all this kind of stuff, they're going to put us to jail. If we have any problems, they're going to put us in jail and all.
Don't you mean,

Speaker 20 you know, man, come on give us a break man give us a break

Speaker 20 if we get loud you know what i'm saying and we're not gonna let you holler at us well which i feel like screaming what you mean i'll let you i could scream to the top of my do he understand the pressure i'm under

Speaker 14 but right now mister you holding me up right now i'm just because the people i'm getting in line in a may go to stand in another line the line to sign up for tomorrow's line which turns out to be the wrong line.

Speaker 14 A volunteer points her in the right direction. Excuse me, man, but you don't have to, Mr.

Speaker 16 This line. Okay.
This is the four-bedroom. I am sorry, okay? It was confusing.

Speaker 13 Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 I don't know what happened. As soon as they walk in in the morning, we're getting buses and we're taking people out to their homes.

Speaker 4 It is a success story beyond their imagination that you may need to print or say something about on radio.

Speaker 14 This is Guy Rankin, the man with the unenviable job of running this place. When I stumble onto him in the middle of the arena, he says things are actually going pretty well here.
And he means it.

Speaker 4 The 25,000 people that are in Dome. Now we're down to 3,000.
had to go somewhere. We housed most of them.

Speaker 4 We had 3,144 people taking the housing over the last five to seven days right off the dome floor.

Speaker 4 Okay, 800 seniors we took right off the dome floor, provided transportation, social services, and a full aspect of training, nurses, doctors, and all of that.

Speaker 14 I just got back. If all these numbers don't quite match up to the chaos around us, it's for a reason.

Speaker 14 The housing voucher program, like so much of the Katrina aid, is a work in progress, being assembled on the fly.

Speaker 14 At first, when hurricane victims showed up, they were told to sign up and then they'd be called when housing came available for them. Lots of people never got calls.

Speaker 14 And because that system was moving too slowly, it was changed midstream. Now how it works is what we're seeing today.

Speaker 14 People come to the housing center and wait for buses that will take them directly to the apartments that have been chosen for them. But the system is still messy.

Speaker 14 IMA, for instance, needed a three-bedroom apartment, and not enough of those were ready today.

Speaker 4 But the one-in-two bedrooms,

Speaker 4 we didn't have enough people to fill the one in two bedrooms. It was empty.

Speaker 4 I just know you see that look on your face, but we've been housing people day after day, minute after minute, taking buses out, full buses.

Speaker 4 Those are the stories you need to tell the world and what we're housing, and those are the units you need to go see.

Speaker 14 Well, how can we come out and see some of it? I know there was a bus just leaving now that we were hoping we might come along on.

Speaker 14 Did I? Yeah.

Speaker 16 Well, girl, I'm going to call y'all when I'm in the house.

Speaker 13 They told me they are lovely.

Speaker 16 It's the Timber Ridge Aparmes.

Speaker 14 As it turned out, the bus he said we missed was running late, and we caught the last one just as it was loading.

Speaker 14 The people lined up didn't really know where they were going, just that they'd have an apartment when they got there.

Speaker 14 There were seven families, mostly couples, one little boy, and a very, very pregnant woman named LaShawn Price, who said she didn't want to have to bring a new baby back to the Astrodome.

Speaker 14 I asked her when she's due, and she says any day, which turns out to be an understatement. Do you have a doctor here or anything?

Speaker 7 No, I'm too far along to get a health care doctor.

Speaker 22 I just have to wait it out.

Speaker 14 And I'll just tell you to go to the ER ER when you go into labor?

Speaker 24 Yeah, I'm already three centimeters, so I'm just waiting on the next centimeter.

Speaker 14 You're in labor.

Speaker 22 But they can't keep you until I'm four.

Speaker 11 Could you let the other set of seats come?

Speaker 14 We all get on the bus. LaShawn, still completely calm, is having contractions at this point.
And the housing official who's coming with us hands out the voucher forms.

Speaker 14 We drive for a while on the freeway, and people are starting to get nervous. We seem really far from the astrodome.
Finally, after 45 minutes, we get there.

Speaker 11 This is it. This is it.

Speaker 14 It's a nice-looking townhouse development with garages and tidy landscaping and new brick and siding. And for the first time all day, there's a sense that things are getting better.

Speaker 25 Boy, we got lucky. We got lucky.

Speaker 20 I got lucky because after six months, all those

Speaker 11 hair.

Speaker 7 All right.

Speaker 23 Well, on the inside, it looks very, very beautiful.

Speaker 14 We're in the clubhouse now. It's big, kind of like the lobby of a Hampton Inn, and there's a love seat and wing-backed chairs and a fancy flower arrangement on the front table.

Speaker 14 Out the back, through the glass doors, you can see a pool and basketball courts. Can you describe it? The families line up as if out of habit.

Speaker 14 They all stand there, looking around, flipping through the brochures.

Speaker 14 A few minutes go by. A few more.

Speaker 14 In the back corner of the room are two young women. They obviously work there and they see we're here, but they don't come up to us or even say hello.

Speaker 14 They're talking about what to do, and everyone knows it. And Lashawn says what everyone's thinking.

Speaker 12 Is there a problem?

Speaker 14 But the women don't hear her, and the waiting continues. Finally, after 15 minutes, one of them comes forward.
She's the assistant manager, though she doesn't introduce herself.

Speaker 14 She asks everyone to get out their social security cards and birth certificates, and she gets some incredulous looks.

Speaker 14 She hands out the applications. Everyone can get an apartment tonight, she says, as long as they have no previous evictions and a clean criminal record.

Speaker 14 There's awkward silence in the room, and then the questions begin.

Speaker 19 So if the people have a bad criminal check, they just have to be homeless.

Speaker 10 If you know that you have a criminal background, and when I say criminal background, I mean no felonies whatsoever, no matter what it is or how old they are.

Speaker 10 Misdemeanors for any drug-related, sex-related crime, or violence against person or property. Okay, so that's what I mean by criminal.

Speaker 10 So if you don't, if those, if those four things do not apply to you, or if you do not have an eviction, or if you do not owe a property any money, then yes, you will be in.

Speaker 14 LaShawn turns to me.

Speaker 12 This is BS. This is straight.

Speaker 14 Do you have one?

Speaker 7 Do I have a conviction? Yeah, I have a conviction.

Speaker 14 But a felony or misdemeanor?

Speaker 15 It's a felony, but it still doesn't stop me from working.

Speaker 23 I just took a charge for my sister.

Speaker 12 She went to the money.

Speaker 8 That's not it.

Speaker 14 Now it's getting really tense. The housing department guy is arguing with the assistant manager.
People are pulling out their cell phones. There's some yelling.

Speaker 14 In a way, it's no different than things we've been for weeks now. The rules keep changing and no one tells them, and nothing ends up quite how it's supposed to be.

Speaker 14 Remember last week when the big story was the FEMA debit cards? Some people got them, others didn't. Next to me, LaShawn's getting more agitated by the minute.

Speaker 14 I can't believe she's not four centimeters dilated by now. Her old life, with her own apartment and her job as a medical records assistant seems as far away as ever.

Speaker 23 That's the part that you're about to go insane behind. You know, you're not in your right frame of mind no more.

Speaker 24 Because if you think about everywhere you go, you're standing in the line for six, seven damn hours to get up there for somebody to give you the damn runaround.

Speaker 24 You know, after a while, it's starting to be, then you can't even go home to somewhere and relax. You're going back to a damn center with 15,000, 20,000 people in it.

Speaker 24 You know, you can't even sit down there and have a peace of mind for a second.

Speaker 10 I wish I had an answer for myself right now, but I don't.

Speaker 14 Lisa, the assistant manager, seems a little overwhelmed.

Speaker 10 And

Speaker 10 basically, what happened is that they were supposed to be here earlier in the day, and they came five minutes before we were supposed to close.

Speaker 10 And then the bus driver is giving them 15 minutes to get back on the bus, and that's just not adequate time enough for us to be able to get them in and out. I mean, I feel really bad.

Speaker 14 A regional manager shows up, promising to help people, but it's too late.

Speaker 23 Everyone feels discriminated against here's lashan and another woman as they get back on the bus them bads looked at us like we was misfits and y'all negroes ain't getting in here that's not right you coming from nowhere you have nothing they know you don't have nothing and if you to turn around and try to make shift throw a little little you know a little stepping stones in front of you like that bro that's not right that's not right

Speaker 14 the housing official he's back on the bus too tells me he doesn't know why this has happened It's his first day, he says. But there's another complex open tonight, which also accepts the vouchers.

Speaker 14 So the bus gets back on the freeway and drives to a neighborhood on the northwest side of the city. Out the bus windows, more and more of the store names are in Spanish.

Speaker 14 Someone spots a man pedaling a little food cart, and a bunch of people snicker.

Speaker 14 By the time the bus stops in front of a weathered two-story apartment complex called Villa del Sol, most of the passengers seem a little freaked out. One thing's for sure: this isn't Timber Ridge.

Speaker 14 For starters, when we get inside, they're ready for us.

Speaker 16 We have a really nice kids' center

Speaker 14 We crowd into the rental office. It's more basement rec room than Hampton Inn, with mismatched furniture and no slick brochures.

Speaker 14 But it's clean and comfortable, and a table in the center of the room is piled high with food. Pizzas, sodas, chips.
Take as much as you want, people are saying. On the wall is a photo collage.

Speaker 14 The neighborhood kids at Summer Day Camp.

Speaker 7 It's a big party.

Speaker 19 Okay, I'm going to need your initials right here, please.

Speaker 14 LaShawn sits down down at the manager's desk and picks up a pen she looks exhausted and right here

Speaker 14 right there

Speaker 13 one more

Speaker 24 right there too

Speaker 7 and I'm gonna need your signature here

Speaker 14 it was that simple she had an apartment six months rent free so how you feeling while you're writing this I don't know just whatever

Speaker 5 whatever it's got a roof and a door and I can sanitize it and have a new maiden use.

Speaker 5 That's all I'm looking for now.

Speaker 14 No one else from our group even fills out the paperwork. They eat the pizza and drift back to the bus.

Speaker 14 They'll find something better, they say.

Speaker 14 I grab one of them.

Speaker 14 Can I ask you why you want to stay? Why I'm not staying?

Speaker 5 Cause look out four wheels from here.

Speaker 20 Then look at it.

Speaker 12 Look at the look at the look around you.

Speaker 5 You see yourself.

Speaker 23 Ain't no good environment.

Speaker 19 Mexicans and all the people around you.

Speaker 14 It's hard to miss the fact that some of the same people who were complaining the loudest about discrimination at Timber Ridge were the quickest to say they didn't want to live around a bunch of Mexicans.

Speaker 14 One of them told me later, If you were in our shoes, wouldn't you feel out of place? It's a different community, a community you're not a part of. Our kids might get picked on or ridiculed.

Speaker 14 They'll be outsiders.

Speaker 7 You got the kid, Ryan?

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 14 Laura Rodriguez, the assistant manager, is going to give LaShawn a tour. Jane, my co-producer, walks over to the apartment with them.
And halfway there, LaShawn grabs Jane's hand.

Speaker 10 You want to feel a contrashed?

Speaker 8 Still having one? Yeah.

Speaker 8 Now.

Speaker 19 Okay, this is the apartment. This is a two-bedroom apartment and one bed.

Speaker 23 It's real nice. It has a walk-in closet.

Speaker 13 Let me show you.

Speaker 7 I mean, they're nice and big.

Speaker 23 You can fit a bed in there.

Speaker 23 I'm sure you're gonna be happy here. Everybody, I mean, people here is very friendly.
I've been in this property for five years.

Speaker 19 So,

Speaker 23 people are nice.

Speaker 3 It's nice. I'm glad.
Thank you.

Speaker 14 To their credit, the people running this housing program are still working on it, still adjusting it each day, still trying to figure out how to get more people into apartments more quickly.

Speaker 14 The next morning, we go back to the housing center.

Speaker 14 Things are a lot the same.

Speaker 20 Telling us to come back tomorrow. I was here yesterday with my proof.
This is my proof. I was here yesterday.

Speaker 14 You see the third thing? I try to talk to Guy Rankin, the guy in charge, but he's busy.

Speaker 14 He's walking around the arena, going from section to section with a bullhorn, listening to people's complaints and trying to answer their questions.

Speaker 29 But let me first explain the Housing Choice Center. Some of you may have heard it before, but we need to do it again for everybody who's near.

Speaker 14 The system's still got some problems. Lots of people are asking why they just can't rent their own apartments with voucher money, instead of taking the places chosen for them.

Speaker 14 in neighborhoods they don't know and don't feel comfortable with.

Speaker 14 It might sound picky, but when I talked to a New Orleans mom whose son has already started elementary school here and is happy there and doesn't want to move again, I'm reminded of how complicated this all is.

Speaker 14 I listen for a while to Rankin.

Speaker 14 He tells the crowd he's heard that complaint, and that maybe soon there'll be a way to let people choose their own places. It's still being worked out, he says, even as he speaks.

Speaker 14 Later today, he says, there might even be a line for that.

Speaker 29 That system will be set up today, and we'll be lining up for that, okay? Lining up for that.

Speaker 27 I'm going to take one more question from this group, and please be patient with us, because we're very, very busy. I know you've been here seven, ten days.

Speaker 29 Some of us have been here 17 days with it 20 hours a day.

Speaker 1 Tell me about your last story from there. Your last Katrina story that you reported.

Speaker 2 Friday Night Floodlights, I think it was called.

Speaker 2 So it was getting to be going back to school time,

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 I had the idea in my head that I wondered what teams were doing. Like, you know,

Speaker 2 you know, schools were shut down. So I don't know why it just went in my head.
Like, what, what is, what, what's going to happen to the football team?

Speaker 2 And the, like, like, basically, how does a high school keep running?

Speaker 1 And how did you know that that would be something that would be important to those? I, because I was not aware. I didn't watch Friday Night Lights.

Speaker 2 I think because I watched Friday Night Lights. Okay.
And I had read the book Friday Night Lights even before that.

Speaker 1 So you knew how important football was in these southern states that were affected by the hurtling. Exactly.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I wondered what would happen. Like, are they even going to have games?

Speaker 2 And then I started looking it up and I saw that there were games on the schedules in these towns that I thought had been destroyed. And

Speaker 2 I called some coaches. And this one particular coach

Speaker 2 was like, yeah, it's all we got here. So he

Speaker 2 built a team from like who was left. And there were kids who had been evacuated to other towns, but they came back and they were like sleeping in trailers or sleeping at the coach's house.

Speaker 2 I can't remember the exact details. And then

Speaker 2 it was just one of those,

Speaker 2 you know, you could have made a movie out of this group of kids, like a total bad news bears kind of, I had to take a middle schooler and put them, you know, get them ready, even though it was was high school.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 1 trying to find other local schools to play.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, that, but somehow the other school showed up, and they were huge in gleaming uniforms. They had not been affected.

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Speaker 2 It was,

Speaker 2 should I make it suspenseful and make them listen to the story? Should we listen? Oh my god.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you should. Let's listen.

Speaker 14 The Bay High Tigers played their first game of the season on the Friday before Katrina. They beat Hancock High 30-14.

Speaker 14 After the storm, the joke was that they'd gone undefeated.

Speaker 14 Everyone figured the season was over. Players were homeless.
The high school was closed. But just days after the hurricane, the Bay High coach, Brennan Compretta, started hearing from his players.

Speaker 14 They wanted to play football. They called his cell and sent text messages.
They stopped him on the street. They wanted to play football.

Speaker 14 They wanted something that reminded them of what life was before.

Speaker 32 The thing that a lot of them were saying is it only takes 11 to play, and that they, no matter how many they had, they wanted to do this.

Speaker 11 That was the only thing that they had to look forward to, you know.

Speaker 14 You wouldn't stage a school play without a school, but football is different here anyway.

Speaker 14 In Bay St. Louis, game day starts at 6.30 a.m.
with a team breakfast at a church. Newspaper stories about the game are posted on the wall at school.

Speaker 14 In the afternoon, drummers from the band march through the hallways just before the pep rally.

Speaker 14 Strangers in town stop players who talk about that week's game. So even though school won't start again until November, the coach coach called a meeting to try to restart the team.

Speaker 14 There were some challenges. Only 19 players showed up of the 70 who were on the team.
They couldn't use their practice field since National Guardsmen were camping there.

Speaker 14 Their field house was destroyed, and most of their equipment. And as for their uniforms.

Speaker 14 We pulled up a few days after the storm. Just they had people running around in our jerseys and cleats and throwing balls around.
And, you know, I guess it was fathers and sons or whatever.

Speaker 14 Wait, so you saw people wearing like your guys' football jerseys just as replacement clothes?

Speaker 32 Right, exactly. And

Speaker 11 considering the circumstances,

Speaker 11 I didn't get really upset about it.

Speaker 32 I just was like, well, I guess if they need some clothes, they can go ahead and take them.

Speaker 33 They're saying there's a possibility that they're saying it's probably going to be one of the most packed games we've played ever.

Speaker 14 It's game day, the Tigers' very first game since Hurricane Katrina, one month after the storm, and I've flown to Mississippi, where Tyler Brush, the team's quarterback, is showing me around.

Speaker 14 There's not a lot to see, just huge piles of wreckage, and near the beach, mile after mile of empty spaces, where houses and buildings used to be.

Speaker 14 After the hurricane, Tyler's family left for a while, moved to Florida to a town where they used to live. They got a nice house, and Tyler began high school there.

Speaker 14 He was practicing with their football squad, and he was going to be a starter there, too. But then Coach Comprada called.

Speaker 14 Tyler says coming back here was a hard choice.

Speaker 33 My dad

Speaker 33 originally didn't want me to come back. I mean he was pretty much against it, but he decided.
I mean he said that it was my decision.

Speaker 33 I mean I had to think about it a lot.

Speaker 33 I was nervous about coming back. I mean I recognized the situation I was in.
I knew what I was taking the chance if I came back here, college teams might not see me playing.

Speaker 33 But I felt that I still needed to come back, though, for whoever did come back.

Speaker 14 His quarterback, he didn't want to let the team down.

Speaker 14 So now his family is living 15 miles away in Diamond Head, and two of the team's other players, whose families didn't return, are living with them, too.

Speaker 14 This is a strange place to be a kid right now. With no school, they spend their days doing cleanup work, hauling out sheetrock and moving trees and debris.
It's bleak and boring.

Speaker 14 Their favorite hangouts are gone. Football is one of the the few things they have left.

Speaker 33 We're actually pulling up to my house now.

Speaker 33 Yeah, this is pretty much nothing left. My house.

Speaker 33 There's stairs right here. We're right here leading up to

Speaker 33 the house. They're completely gone.

Speaker 14 Literally, all we are looking at are the wooden stilts that held up the house and the foundation which looks like it was lifted up from the ground.

Speaker 14 And I mean there isn't even like stuff around like furniture or clothes or where all this, where all the stuff go?

Speaker 33 I guess the water just washed them up that way.

Speaker 33 Wiped out. There's nothing left.

Speaker 34 Does anybody in here need pants?

Speaker 34 If you need pants, come with me.

Speaker 14 Over at the football field, the new uniforms arrive just in time. A gift from a man in North Carolina, and the kids line up while the coaches open the boxes.

Speaker 14 The new jerseys are blue and white, not blue and gold, the school colors. But no one seems to care.

Speaker 14 This isn't the team it used to be. Over half the Tigers still haven't come back, so the coaches have filled out the roster with some new recruits.

Speaker 14 A few seniors who've never played football, some freshmen from the school's ninth grade team, two guys from the Tigers' arch rival, St. Stanislaw.
They canceled their season.

Speaker 14 And to cap it all off, Bad News Bear style, some scared-looking 7th and 8th graders from the junior high.

Speaker 14 In all, it's still just 29 players, a long way from 70.

Speaker 14 Some of these kids are all but homeless, sleeping on other families' couches and floors. One linebacker is living in a camper, alone, his parents hours away.
Also, he can play football.

Speaker 14 With everything these kids have been dealing with and everything they've seen, they seem genuinely relieved and excited to be here today, putting on jerseys and lacing up cleats.

Speaker 35 Everybody's just anxious to play again, to get things back to normal.

Speaker 14 That's Trevor Adams, a senior tight end.

Speaker 14 And for him, getting things back to normal means pretty much one thing.

Speaker 35 I love hitting people. That's.

Speaker 35 I mean, there's no better feeling in the world, just unloading on somebody.

Speaker 35 I mean, even now, dealing with all this, you have an extra feel of warmth. You get just

Speaker 35 that exciting feeling about, you know, hitting somebody.

Speaker 35 There's no, you can't explain it.

Speaker 14 Equally excited is Brandt, a a 10th grader. I think Brandt might be one of the happiest kids I've ever met.

Speaker 14 He doesn't stop beaming, even when he's talking about swimming through his flooded kitchen or living for weeks without plumbing or power.

Speaker 14 He moved to Texas to stay with a relative for a while, but didn't stay long.

Speaker 5 Texas was great. Everybody was real kind, like scary kind.
It was just like, like, have you ever seen the Stepford wives? How everything's perfect? That's how it was.

Speaker 5 They were all like, hi, how are you doing?

Speaker 5 Can I get you anything?

Speaker 5 Clothes, food? And I'm like, I'm fine, man.

Speaker 14 So, does this feel like a normal couple hours before a game, or does it feel different?

Speaker 33 Way different.

Speaker 5 One thing I'm going to miss before the game is the pre-game meals. We don't have that here because

Speaker 5 them pre-game meals are good. All you can eat.

Speaker 8 What kind of food?

Speaker 5 Baked chicken with all these spices on it. It was so good.

Speaker 5 You're making me home. That was like a month ago.

Speaker 8 So,

Speaker 14 you've stayed here this whole time. What's there been to eat for you?

Speaker 5 Three meals a day, MREs.

Speaker 14 So, what's an MRE taste like?

Speaker 5 Um, I tell you what,

Speaker 5 meal number 20 and meal number 22, that's 20's spaghetti and 22's jambaley, the best.

Speaker 5 I told my mama she's to step it up because that stuff is...

Speaker 5 I'm going to start getting MREs just regular.

Speaker 34 All right, hey, guys, everybody right here where these guys are, get down. Y'all can take a na or something.
Let's go, real quick. You can sit down or take an A either one.

Speaker 14 It's late afternoon now, about an hour before the game.

Speaker 14 Everybody gathers around Coach Compretto and he urges them to think about the past month when they get on the field tonight.

Speaker 34 Everything you have inside of you, let it out. All the aggravation, the frustration,

Speaker 34 having to get up and do all the junk you do every day because of this hurricane,

Speaker 34 let it all out right here.

Speaker 34 Play for your community.

Speaker 34 That's why you're here, okay? Some people can't be here. Play for the guys who can't be here too

Speaker 34 Play for Base St. Louis and Waver

Speaker 34 Does anybody have any questions

Speaker 34 about anything? Offense, defense, special teams, walk.

Speaker 8 What?

Speaker 33 I love everybody.

Speaker 34 We love you too, Kyle.

Speaker 14 Of course, there's only so much love one football team can take. An hour later, as the team gets ready to run onto the field, the coach has this to say.

Speaker 34 So, forget all the kindness and niceness right now, all that junk.

Speaker 26 Go out there and get after their behind. Do you understand me? Yes, sir.
Okay.

Speaker 26 Now, we do want to win the football game.

Speaker 34 Okay?

Speaker 34 Everybody, touch somebody.

Speaker 34 Let's go.

Speaker 11 Let's go! Walk up with it!

Speaker 8 Lazy Gamers!

Speaker 14 It's kind of hard to believe that out of the ruins of this town, just down the street from gutted houses and buildings, this thing has appeared, this movie-set perfect football game.

Speaker 14 It's dusk now, with a pinker sky. And under the stadium lights, everything's kind of glowing, and everyone showed up to play their part.

Speaker 14 The cheerleaders, the PA announcer, the marching band, or what's left of it, a single kid with a snare drum standing in the bleachers.

Speaker 14 Please join me in singing the national anthem. The opposing team, the Long Beach Bearcats, line up on the other side of the field.
The moment I see them, my heart sinks a little.

Speaker 14 Not only are there twice as many of them, they just look so determined. Assistant Coach Keys sizes them up this way.

Speaker 16 Big.

Speaker 34 They came here on three buses.

Speaker 34 We need a minivan.

Speaker 34 Big difference. And they don't have junior high kids out there.
We do.

Speaker 14 Not even the quarterback's father expects the Tigers to win tonight. They're missing so many guys that they'll have to play their good players twice as much.

Speaker 14 Their starters will play offense and defense. Guys will wear out.

Speaker 27 Right there.

Speaker 14 The Tigers get off to a great start. The first time they get the ball, they go on a drive that lasts half the first quarter and ends with a touchdown on a six-yard run by Robert Labotte.

Speaker 14 I watch Tyler pass the ball off to Robert, knowing that Tyler pretty much moved back to town for this moment, and that Robert, who's living with him, separated from his own family, did too.

Speaker 28 Get out there, go, go, go!

Speaker 14 On the sidelines, eight tiger cheerleaders are jumping around. It's more than half the squad.
One tells me her uniform was the first thing she packed when her family evacuated.

Speaker 14 When the girls aren't cheering, they're consulting this big, elaborate chart they've set up in front of the bleachers. Celeste, the captain, explains.

Speaker 21 This is our cheer list, and we have 63 cheers on it. And every year we just take it and we add more to it.

Speaker 14 Okay, so like, what's 36?

Speaker 21 36 is G O go Tigers go.

Speaker 14 And then what's 37?

Speaker 21 37 is G O Go Go G O Go.

Speaker 14 And what's 28?

Speaker 21 Go, go, GO, go, Tigers go.

Speaker 14 There's some similarity.

Speaker 21 Yes, they're very.

Speaker 14 The coaches are scurrying up and down the field, improvising to fill in for the key players they don't have, swapping kids in and out. Brandt, the MRE kid, is getting trounced out there.

Speaker 14 So the coach pulls him aside.

Speaker 34 Hey, Brandt, not bad, baby. Not bad, baby.

Speaker 34 Let me go change and put somebody in there with a little more behind on him, okay?

Speaker 8 I got manhandled.

Speaker 5 I know, we saw that.

Speaker 14 But the rookie players come through with some surprises.

Speaker 14 For instance, at the very same moment that the coaches are grumbling to themselves about where exactly freshman Alan Velalta is heading on the field, Volalta recovers a fumble.

Speaker 38 Oh, God, Velalta don't know where he is.

Speaker 36 Oh, damn, he just made a play. He just made a game play.

Speaker 14 By the end of the first half, it's Tiger 7, Bearcat 6. Good job, Walt.

Speaker 14 The home bleachers are pretty packed by now. And the thing I realize when I start talking to people is that this is the first time this town has gotten together since the hurricane.

Speaker 14 One of the first people I meet, Gary Yarbrough, doesn't even have a kid on the team.

Speaker 37 I'm just out here just trying to see who's still here and who's still in town and visit with the other folks and kind of see how everybody's handling everything and dealing with everything.

Speaker 14 Is this the first time you're seeing a lot of folks in a while?

Speaker 37 Yeah, some of them, yeah, because with the curfews and

Speaker 37 nothing open in town,

Speaker 37 there's really no place to go to see anybody.

Speaker 14 As I walk through the stands, the one thing people keep telling me is what a normal night this is. What a relief it is to do something normal again.

Speaker 14 But talk to anyone for more than a couple minutes, and what you hear next is just how far from normal everything is.

Speaker 14 They're worried about flood insurance and FEMA trailers and whether they'll have jobs. I ask one man, the booster club president, what the highlight of the game is so far, and he nearly starts to cry.

Speaker 14 Hurry up!

Speaker 14 Down on the field, the Tigers are playing better than anyone had expected. Going into the fourth quarter, the score is 21-6, Tigers comfortably leading.

Speaker 14 But then, in the last five minutes of the game, everything falls apart. The Bearcat star player, Tremaine Brock, rushes for a touchdown.
They miss the extra point, so it's 21-12.

Speaker 14 Two minutes later, with just three minutes left in the game, Brock sprints 55 yards to the end zone as the Tiger coaches watch helplessly.

Speaker 27 I see what he's going.

Speaker 14 It's a two-point game now, 21-19. The Tigers are still leading, but Long Beach has the momentum and they only need a field goal to win.
The Tigers are completely exhausted.

Speaker 14 Many have been on the field the entire game, the kicker's limping. Alan Velalta, the ninth grader who made that great play, is on the sidelines with an injured knee.

Speaker 14 The Tigers get the ball back, their last possession, but they can't even manage a first down. They punt it away, and there's still plenty of time for Long Beach to score.

Speaker 20 Come on, Jeep, be ready to drop.

Speaker 14 The Bearcats start to drive again. They cross the 50-yard line into Bayhai territory.
The clock is running down. Coaches are screaming.
Jason, be ready to drop.

Speaker 14 The place is going nuts.

Speaker 14 I can honestly say this is the only only football game I've ever been to where it really did seem to matter who won. Earlier I felt bad taking sides against the Bearcats.

Speaker 14 Their town was hit by the hurricane too.

Speaker 14 But now I don't know what I'll do if the Tigers lose. Their town was hit harder.
They're the underdogs. They have to win.

Speaker 14 And then they do.

Speaker 14 They stopped the Bearcats. It's over.

Speaker 14 The clock runs out and the place explodes. 2119 Tigers.
It's every corny sports movie come to life. People streaming on the field, hugging, players sprawled on the ground.

Speaker 14 All these people in this wrecked town, ecstatic over a football game. Assistant coach Jeremy Turcott.

Speaker 36 I think next to getting married and having my baby, that's about the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 26 Hey, guys, listen up. We'll let you go.
I know we got to get home.

Speaker 14 Coach Comprada.

Speaker 34 Never been more proud, okay,

Speaker 34 in my coaching career. Never been more proud in a group of guys in my life than right now.
Love you guys. I love you guys.

Speaker 34 Take tomorrow off.

Speaker 20 Can you on Wednesday, 3.30?

Speaker 34 Be here for 3.30, okay?

Speaker 34 Everybody touch somebody. Great job, fellas.
Great job, fellas.

Speaker 9 Break it down.

Speaker 11 What's up, win?

Speaker 8 St. Louis and Hancock County is still out there.

Speaker 28 After the game, you'll need to go home as soon as possible.

Speaker 14 And just like that, the place clears out. A half hour later, the only people left are the coaches, still reliving the game.

Speaker 14 Luke, one of the assistants, is on the cell phone with his brother in Alabama.

Speaker 38 They had the ball with about a minute and a half left, driving with no timeouts, and we sacked them and no time left.

Speaker 38 But I just want to call and tell you that, man. I'll call you tomorrow sometime.
I just want to holler at you real quick. I love you, brother.

Speaker 24 Bye. Bye.

Speaker 14 Of all the coaches I met here, Luke seemed the most discouraged about everything. He'd lost his house.
He sounded disheartened.

Speaker 14 In the morning, he told me that when his contract is up in May, he'll probably leave here. But now his mood is different.

Speaker 38 And, you know, we play next Friday night here, and, you know, it's not like the town's going to be back to normal next Friday night. So, I mean, they're still going to not have anything to do.

Speaker 38 There's still going to be a curfew. And, you know, I mean, this just starts it.
I mean, if you lose tonight, it's like, you know what?

Speaker 38 You go home and you're sitting in a trailer and you have no AC and you lost the football game.

Speaker 38 But no, it's a little easier to go home and sit in a trailer with no AC when you just won a football game that nobody gave you a chance to win.

Speaker 14 Before coming to Bay St. Louis, I felt the way I think a lot of us feel when we see these places on TV.

Speaker 14 I didn't understand how you go back to a town like that, to all that loss, and live there in the middle of it. What are you going back there for?

Speaker 14 And how do you even begin to get over it?

Speaker 14 Watching the Tigers win, 2119, completely outmatched, everyone together, cheering them on. I knew the answer.

Speaker 2 It was one of those times where

Speaker 2 you're doing your job and you're, you're like, oh my God, I just feel lucky that I am here to see this.

Speaker 2 And everyone in town came out because no one had done anything. And so it was like everyone just, you know, like you'd just gone through this huge tragedy and now they're in the stands and,

Speaker 2 you know, I don't know how they cobbled together a band. There were some bands there.
There were cheerleaders.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 they were moving forward. I mean, that's like the coach was basically like,

Speaker 2 I've got kids here wanting to play football. So let's give them something to feel good about.

Speaker 2 And it did. And I think I would have cried if they had not won.

Speaker 1 I think you probably cried when they did win.

Speaker 2 No, you know, just some stories you remember.

Speaker 2 I know it's cheesy. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 No, but it's hateful.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 1 Well, thanks for talking to me about this.

Speaker 2 Thanks for asking me.

Speaker 1 Hopefully we'll get in touch with Cokinya and Kayla.

Speaker 2 I would love that so much. I'm going to see if I can find anybody.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, if anybody knows these folks, Our number is 323-248-1488.

Speaker 1 Have them call us. I should put this on TikTok.
They're way better at that.

Speaker 2 Yes, please.

Speaker 1 Like finding people. I could probably put a post up today and find them by tomorrow.

Speaker 2 Oh, you should.

Speaker 1 I may do that

Speaker 1 for this weekend when the show comes out.

Speaker 2 All right. Yep.

Speaker 1 Bye, Lise.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Bye.

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