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So give them a follow, number one, geek podcast.

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Hello, everybody, and welcome to Geek Enders,

otherwise known as the

Ender Magnolia's Dream Team Podcast.

Yo,

that's the real, that's the real truth.

I messaged you like, yo, you play in this?

Yeah,

Jesse messaged me literally yesterday, like, bro, I'm so excited to talk about this game.

And I was like, bro, I just completed all the achievements.

We were like, oh my god.

Yep.

Yep.

Yes.

It's a crazy way to

start to start the podcast.

But, like, I don't think so.

I liked it.

I was, yeah.

I'm here to get a lot of people.

I think people want to know what they're getting into.

And so with the podcast or just with video games in general, with the podcast.

I think

truly we have gone off the rails on many a podcast.

And maybe today we're going to stay on.

Is this an on-rail shooter today?

Yeah, maybe it's nice to just be told, like, we're not going to talk about a single other thing.

Mark my words.

Clip this.

We're not going to talk about anything else

except Ender Magnolia.

That's not going to happen.

I'm not going to lie to these people.

I'm not going to do that.

What do you mean?

I'm not talking about it.

I'm not going to to talk about.

There's so many things to talk about.

There's so much.

You're right.

There is.

But one is just very clearly the one we spent the last week doing.

Which is weird.

Did you just start playing this game?

Or did you...

Like, when did you start?

I started like

right before

the last Geekenders, I think.

Interesting.

Because it took me five or six sit-downs to finish it.

But I went out of town over the weekend.

And the whole weekend, I was like, God, I just want to play Ender Magnolia so bad.

It is.

It's weirdly hypnotic.

I don't know how to describe this franchise.

So for those of you who don't know, there's two games right now.

There's Ender Lily and Ender Magnolia.

And Lily is the first game.

It is.

I don't even know how to describe this.

Imagine a game that looks like you would have played it on new grounds in 2012,

yet with a much

more fleshed-out art style and beautiful backgrounds and really

like smooth controls.

Yeah, I really tried to do something different with the mechanics for a Metroidvania.

It's very interesting because you play as, in the first game, you play as a little girl, and you, I don't like, talking about too much is obviously a spoiler for the story.

And the story is minimal.

It's like Dark Soul story.

We're talking, you get just enough to keep you like, what the hell's going on?

And then at the end, they're like, here's what happened.

See you in the next game.

But

there's

like something about the idea of you're this little girl and you collect almost Pokemon style.

In the first game, kind of

corrupted heroes, I guess is the best way to describe it.

And they join you and you go around defeating these creatures sort of changed by the blight.

And the blight's this like

weird thing caused by reign of death and um magic

yeah it's it's really uh kind of like there's this weird thing happening and it's turning people in this one kingdom which i believe is called like

i don't know like end of the road or end like kingdom at the end or something it's basically like uh you're like in the at least the lore of the first game you're kind of like the last

big kingdomy thing and society's crumbling yeah in the first one you're like the last priestess right?

Yes.

And everyone is dead.

Like everyone, everything is dead.

You meet a few people, and the people you do meet are like

also dead.

Like, it's again, very, very dark, very interesting, but it's gorgeous, like, absolutely well put together.

And then the second game comes out, and you're an entirely different character in a place called like the land of fumes, which is essentially a steampunk world,

except they definitely are like, yeah, in those other kingdoms, and they just drop that this is definitely the same world as the first game, except not really connected in a way that I can't mention because it's spoilers to the first game.

But for most of the second game, it is straight up just, here's a new thing, and there are actually people around, and there are many humans to talk to, but there's also homunculi, which are now the new version of the souls that you can collect, and you use them to fight.

And instead of it being like Pokemon, which is what what it sounds like,

if you press attack, it isn't your little character who attacks.

It's the awesome, you know, homunculus that joins you that does the attacking.

It's very cool.

The mechanics, because people kept showing up and being like, is this like JoJo's Bizarre Adventure?

Are these like stands?

But I think the mechanics are meant to reflect that these homunculi that are with you are fighting.

in your stead, right?

Right.

So like you as the as the little character, when the homunculi are attacking, you're kind of like doing a lot of this sort of stuff because you're not part of the fight.

They're protecting you.

Yes.

And so the way that you sort of like build your loadout is really fun, like depending on what homunculi you have.

And it's not required that you find all of them to beat the game, but they all have different like abilities.

And so you can say, okay, I want, you know.

this character's big scythe and I want this guy's punchy arm and I want this guy's gun, you know, like, and, and then

and then you fight and it does a really good job I think of

it would be really easy in these sorts of games for it to be like well

there's one really good loadout

and the rest is like if you want to be like flavorsome right but I found myself changing up what I was using in almost every fight for the most part or depending on what I was doing, if I was just like exploring versus like a boss fight, I would change everything.

Yeah, mechanically, the way they did the second game is they honestly, I think it may be across the board.

They took everything that made the first game cool and then just added to it instead of changing it, which absolutely here for.

Love that stuff.

Even the like the art for the game, they cranked it up to 11.

I will say the one change I didn't like is in the first game, again,

had a very dark soulsy vibe, had a very like, everyone's dead, and you're the last, whatever, right?

Like that kind of thing, and you're going around.

And they also did a thing where a lot of enemies, when you would fight them, they would be like, I'm the last knight of

Mortena.

And then you'd fight them.

And then halfway through the fight, or when you beat their first bar, they'd erupt into some monstrous blight creature and you'd have to fight them.

That happens

exactly once, I think, in Ender Magnolia.

other than that it is

the boss has phases but there is no and now i'm a giant monstrosity that rarely happens yeah

yeah that is i don't know if that's if that was just a choice they made because people were like i don't like that from the first game or if it's just a choice because it's like story-based like i i genuinely don't know a different setup yeah maybe yeah i don't know what the the the idea there was but mechanically when it comes to what you're talking about i thought it was really interesting that they gave you so in the first game they would give you like okay here is a cool ranged attack here is a uh slow attack here like that kind of stuff and it was a lot there was a lot to choose from from the different characters but in this one it's like okay you have got one guy who shoots really fast who's like a gunslinger who literally look like he looks like vincent valentine just straight up vincent yeah yeah he's yeah

and so you have vincent and he goes and he shoots like his double guns but then you also have a guy who's like, I'm the sharpshooter.

And if you want to use a sharpshooter, you can.

It's slower, but that's also there.

Then you have a samurai who will do cool like samurai shit.

But then you also have, you know, your main lady who can either have a sword, a scythe, or a giant like great sword.

So that's three different types of attacks you could do.

Then you also have like two separate witch characters.

One character that's like a lady who sits in a throne and just like goes, yo, yo, yo, I'm Professor X.

You have two different birds to choose from.

There's like so many different things that your loadout can be whatever.

I'm going to let you know the last boss shot to death.

Just like, was so tired of the B ending boss's final phase where like it goes,

I was like, I'm going to say my ass a corner to shoot this guy to death.

I don't even care.

And that's, that's kind of what I did there because

there's, it's, it's very, very cool.

There's a lot of stuff in this game that I'm

I'm impressed with what they did to be honest I did the B ending first

ah okay which was so helpful because then when I had to fight him for the a ending I was like oh this is nice this is

because I had been so annoyed with uh the like harder version of the fight but yeah I know spoilers sorry there are two versions of the final fight.

Same with the first one.

Also, the difference in the first one, though, is there's also a third ending, which you can get earlier, which is just like, nah, this is shit.

I'm out.

You can just leave.

Really?

I didn't do that.

How?

What do you do?

You sort of get to the end.

You know how it's a Metroidvania.

Should we not say?

I'm not going to spoil what happens.

I'll just say like how you can get it.

So, you know how it's a Metroidvania and you have the full map, right?

If you go all the way over to the far, far side, where it's like, uh,

basically, it's saying, like, when you leave this area, you go out into the wide world, you leave the kingdom.

Literally, you can just get there and be like, you know what, this place sucks, bye, and just leave.

That's really, and I'm like, that's hilarious.

That's a potential option for you.

Yeah.

This one does not have that.

The purpose of this one is you're literally like, I'm going to save everyone.

Rather than the last one, which was, what the hell am I doing here?

Everyone's dead.

This place sucks.

And it's so hard to describe because all of it's kind of like spoilery.

But

everything they create with the backgrounds, like you'll enter an area and be like,

this is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in a game.

Like, what the hell?

Yeah, I think you're right in that some of the feedback that they got from Enderlilies, because so many of us played Ender Lilies and we were like, I don't, this game isn't like perfectly polished, but there's something so special about it, you know?

And they were getting feedback like, you know, like the mechanics are interesting, but sometimes they don't feel like really precise or whatever.

That issue is gone in this game.

Everything feels really nice.

And also,

I brought this series of games up so many times when discussing maps in Metroidvanias because what they do in these games that I don't really see a lot, if any, other games do

is the map will change color.

Like that section of the map will change change color if you found everything.

And you might feel like Resident Evil.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You might feel like that's something that you should get later.

Like as like a completionist, like, oh, here's where you need to go back.

I love it.

Because if I'm like, fuck, I don't want to do the current story thing.

I have so much stuff to go back and do clearly because I'm like, oh my God, so much of it's gray.

I guess I'll backtrack early.

Well, what's great about the second game is, so if you play the first game, one of the biggest things going on in Enderlilies is the fact that

they are total dicks with some of the hidden items.

Yeah.

So there'll be an item that you clearly can see, but have no way to get.

And it's so frustrating.

You wait all game and you still can't get it.

You're at the end of the game.

You're like, how do I get this?

And then you realize the way to get it.

is you have to do a combination of like one character.

So you do double jump, then you use one character's abilities, which will keep you in the air long enough for your dash to refresh.

Then you dash across, use the ability again, and then do one more jump hook on, and then you can get it.

And you're like, so I had to have like a genuine, crazy loadout that kept me in the air long enough to get to that thing.

There was no hint how to do it, there was no special way to do it.

You just had to nail the like button combos to get there.

And I was like, how would I ever figure that out?

That's crazy.

The second game going into it right away i'm like

all right i'm gonna have to do some of that i know and so all of those things where in this game at least later on you would get abilities that would let you shoot like rocket boot up to the top of an area hook onto something and then rock it across the air so you could you could cheese stuff like crazy later in the game But if you didn't want to, you had that knowledge of how to get stuff from the first game where where I was, I was getting so many items and so many power-ups before the first boss that I was like, I'm a god.

And it's only because once you learn all those different tricks, they're up here permanently.

So it's like, for sure.

That's really cool.

Yeah.

They're great games.

Highly recommend.

Oh, yes.

I wanted to also mention, because you mentioned this about a different game, but this game also does the difficulty sliders thing.

Yes.

So if you want to be super specific about like how much damage is being done to you, you know, all of that, there are sliders to specify how you want to play the game.

Yeah, I mean, which is really nice.

What's interesting about the game is they give you tons of relics to use and upgrade and change out your build.

They give you tons of different weapon options.

They give you tons of different items you can equip.

And the thing is, you can get a lot of life in this game, like a lot of HP.

But depending on your loadout, if you don't have a lot of defense, an enemy can still kill you in four hits.

Even if you're at max life, even if you got the achievement that's like, you did it.

You just, you have full life.

You're the best.

They still can just, there's sometimes

there are these guys.

They're like little tiny orbs.

And they just do like a...

like AOE kind of electric thing.

Yeah.

And if you just so happen to be moving by, when that goes off, there's a chance it could just stun lock you and stun locks you, yeah.

And it's like, it's like the darkest timeline with that.

You're like, I can't, I can't,

what was I supposed to do?

There's, there's a lot of enemies that are just like, oh,

and that's, it just happens.

It just happens.

But then the good thing, unlike,

you know, a Souls game, for example, or a lot of the older games, you're not.

You don't lose anything.

If anything, it takes you back to, you know, the respawn.

You're like, all right, okay

let's try this again

yeah but you don't feel like you were too punished so yeah it's it's it's a truly fascinating game i i'm surprised how much i enjoy them because it's not necessarily story heavy but it's very world building heavy and i think that's why i'm i'm super into the idea of them and i like what you know because it's it's mysterious you're like what is what is happening here and it makes you want to keep playing um and then they just have like a really cool visual art style that i wish wish I knew what it was called.

It's very gothick-y, but not,

but I don't know.

I don't know how to describe it.

I also think, like, with so many games having a theme of

there's, you know, a sickness or a blight, and it's like destroying things, and you have to fight, you know, people or animals or whatever that have been, you know, consumed by the whatever.

I think there's something, considering how dark the world feels, there's something very hopeful

and nice about a game where the character that you're playing specifically, their whole purpose is to save those people and to help them.

Yeah.

So it was really nice because every fight you went into, there was a part of you hoping, like, I hope we can save them, you know?

Like, it's just sweet.

Instead of being like, well, They're corrupted.

I gotta die, you know?

Yeah.

When the tower crew showed up, I cheered.

I was like, yo, let's go, tower crew.

I was very happy.

I will say, because the first game didn't have a lot of NPCs running around, and the second game definitely does, they were able to create some really fun characters.

I got to say, I stand me some Levi.

That little cutie pie run around every time you see him, just like, hey, I'm like, would you bring me this time, little sweetie?

Oh my gosh.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yes.

Big, big fan of that.

Interpersonal relationships are really cute.

I like that too.

And I like

that they did.

it's so weird to say this.

It's kind of like the Jedi Survivor thing where they were like, there's costumes and ponchos and you could equip all sorts of, I was like,

okay.

So the minute I got the Levi poncho, I was like, ooh, we go and we're on this team.

Our little pal, we're repping.

We're repping strong.

I was like, let's go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I liked that there was a currency that was specifically for unlocking like extras and like, you know, customization stuff.

There's actually three currencies.

There's like an extras currency.

There's a currency for upgrading.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's scrap for upgrading your like trinkets, basically.

There's whatever the currency is to like unlock costumes and like, um, like original art and stuff like that.

And then the like machinery parts that you use to make, you know, like accessories and stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It uh it was interesting i was very curious like i genuinely to be honest was like is this gonna be one of those stories where they're all actually

homunculi and

everyone is

and i thought for sure because the first game again has no one like there is you're buy yourself there's not a living soul and so this one i was expecting it to be the same but no like no there's people and they're fine don't worry about it they're just living life it's like oh okay i like that that's cute good i'm glad.

I'm so happy for them.

Yeah.

And I thought that, again,

very interesting world building in that it does kind of what I loved about the dishonored games, which is we're telling a story of one place, but dropping hints about the wide world.

And if you want to know more, buy our games and we'll make more games and we'll show you what's going on.

But

Yeah, you're getting one story.

And so every once in a while, a character will be like, in the far east, there's a whole other thing.

and i'm like yo there's okay they're setting up like a whole thing here or they're like in the land of between worlds i'm like yeah okay all right and then go on go on go on i'm like interesting interesting and i like that i think it uh it also kind of added a bit of um

like you were saying earlier like like kind of hope where you come from the first game and everyone's dead and the second game it's like no we're a city we're doing our thing yeah the world is a big place it's not like that everywhere yeah yeah but i do think it's funny that the people in the the land of fumes absolutely crap on the first the people in the first game They're like those guys idiots

Oh My gosh, this is such a heel turn topic wise, but I was just mentioning to chat a little bit earlier I've started getting a bunch of videos of lionfish What like lionfish hunting have you

lion fish is

so they're an extremely invasive species of fish.

I guess they've like researched it.

They're all they do is tell lies

all over the place in Florida.

And you know what?

Actually, checks out.

They've tracked them genetically back to like five or six fish that got released.

And they've turned into hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of fish in Florida.

Yeah.

And they have no natural predators except humans.

So anybody who does like diving in Florida is encouraged to learn how to spearfish lionfish because they're so invasive and they eat constantly.

So they just destroy all of the other fish, right?

Anyways, for some reason, I've started getting so many videos of people hunting lionfish.

And it makes me laugh.

It comes back to what you said, I swear.

It makes me laugh because all of the comments in these videos, these fish cannot even conceptualize the idea that there's a thing that could kill them.

So they'll just let a human with a big spear come up and just stab them.

And if there's a cluster of them, they'll watch one of them get stabbed and just sit there.

Like,

that stupid bitch, can you believe he got stabbed?

Couldn't be me.

And then they also get stabbed.

It's so funny.

I don't, I mean,

looking at them,

I'm fat.

It's just so funny.

They got spines, like poisonous spines.

Yeah.

They've got big spikes.

So you have to go out and spearfish them.

You don't even need a license to do it.

That's how invasive they are.

You don't need a license to do it.

If you're out there killing lionfish, they're like, awesome.

Keep it up.

But

they're really bad.

You know how Australia has very,

very stringent like what you can bring into the country regulations.

Yeah.

sometimes i i wonder about us we're like yeah you keep an alligator as a pet and if you don't like it throw it in the lake like what what do you mean

yeah i got these weird fish at the market fine

released them into the ocean what because what's what could happen cue everyone for spearfishing lionfish because they're like man they're tearing stuff up yeah So

they eat them, I guess.

Floridians confirm or deny, but I guess in Florida, they eat tons of lionfish because they're perfectly edible.

You just have to know how to get all the spines and stuff off.

And people are infected.

They're fish up as many of them as possible.

Florida was home of Monkey Mondays until they stopped that because a monkey attacked a person.

What is Monkey Mondays?

There was a restaurant.

where they had monkey mondays and you were allowed to bring your monkey wait wait a second one moment can i ask a question

do you know so much about weird things going on in Florida because of Cox and Crendor in the morning?

Yes.

Okay, great.

Okay, continue.

You could bring monkeys to a restaurant.

You were allowed to bring monkeys to a restaurant.

And

they brought a monkey, and they always brought this monkey, and it was like a little cutie pie.

And then one day, some punk-ass kid started poking the monkey and trying to antagonize the monkey.

And the monkey attacked the kid.

So they canceled Monkey Mondays.

That's not the monkey's fault.

That's not the kids.

That's that kid's problem.

Cancel children.

That's what I'm saying.

Monkeys, monkeys are like better children.

And honestly, I feel like we should just accept that.

I'd be fine if monkeys took over.

If this was a planet of the apes situation, I would be like, you know what?

We had our time and we failed.

Apes go nuts.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Monkey Mondays.

It was a thing.

Florida had it all.

Monkey Mondays, damn.

Florida is the only place in the world where you could get a story that's like, man throws alligator at convenience mart owner in order to steal booze, gets arrested while high on meth, naked at KFC.

Like, it's just,

it's a beautiful place, Florida.

You never know what's going to happen down there.

It's true.

I've never been, so it's just magical in my mind, you know.

Let me stress to you, it's not nearly as cool as you'd think it is.

I didn't say I thought it was cool.

Oh, it was implied.

This is a little different.

You said it was magical.

I mean, mean, that's just them trying to convince you that Disneyland's magical when it's just like a swamp.

They built it on a swamp.

That's it.

Did you know that the Disneyland in Japan is not like officially a Disneyland?

That's why they have so much weird stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think that's awesome.

I would love to go there.

How do they get away with that?

That's crazy to me that they can have a Disneyland and it's not actually made by Disney.

What is that?

I don't.

I mean, I don't know.

I'm sure there's some

something going on.

I don't know.

I have no idea how they got away with that.

I feel like they have it.

Like Tokyo Disney has to be a thing, though.

They're like,

is it like Japanese Kit Kats?

Oh, that's very, that's very clever.

Maybe.

Are Japanese Kit Kats not Kit Kats?

Well, they can get away with making like a matcha tea Kit Kat.

We ain't got none of that here.

They you can make a Kit Kat that tastes like flavors of things all over the place.

False, that's not true.

Not Kit Kat's.

We just started doing white chocolate, and people hate it.

They're like, it ain't Kit Kat.

But it's not my Kit.

That doesn't mean that it's not officially Kit Kat.

Different

landowner.

That's like saying prawn Lays aren't real Lays chips.

I mean, I would say it's, it's like,

first off, I would argue that that is true.

But second off, I would say I very much like 7-Eleven

in Japan, for example.

You can get like fresh, delicious food at a 7-Eleven.

And here in the States, they're like, enjoy your week-old sandwich asshole.

Like, there's not, it's not the same.

It's different.

My brother had a field day.

My maiden name

is Lawson, for anybody who doesn't know that.

And there's a convenience store chain in Japan called Lawson's.

And my brother, pretty much every time he saw one, took a picture and sent it to me.

So

we get, it's really easy to entertain us as Americans, is I guess what I'm saying.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We really feel, it's like when I went to see my first Dodgers baseball game, and I was like, oh my God, can you guys believe that I got my own baseball team?

And I got to make that joke for like an hour and a half.

It was crazy.

I like that you said specifically an hour and a half because in my mind, that's when people got up and left.

They're like, you know what?

Who stays to watch baseball for more than an hour and a half?

You know, your hot dog's done by then.

I did see a message here that said

it was made an official deal with Disney, but the Japanese government would not allow Disney to be primary owners.

Interesting.

Interesting.

Okay.

I guess.

So

they're like co-owner.

They're co-parenting Tokyo Disney?

Yeah, I guess they license intellectual property from Disney.

I mean, Disney's still getting paid and they don't have to manage the park.

I think that's probably, they think that is a win.

Yeah, true.

It's still

promoting Disney stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, that's the best way to get rich is just license yourself.

You don't have to do anything and people can use you.

Man, that sounds great to me.

Please use me.

Just use me up, baby.

That's that's what I want.

Yeah, you should just like go to a bunch of different companies and be like

this,

do whatever you want with it.

But I want it to be like see what happens, happens, you know?

Yeah, I want like a Simpsons thing

where you, it's not like I'm not on the side of a building, but I am the mascot for your detergent, you know?

Like, I want to, I want to license my face to like Azerbaijan or, you know, Turkmenistan, where they're like, get Jesse brand

soap, clean yourself.

And I'll be like, uh-huh.

You know?

Clean yourself.

Yeah, I want a Mr.

Sparkle moment.

I see.

Okay.

What product do you think you could sell really well overseas?

Really well overseas?

Yeah.

Like if you needed to make a commercial,

what product do you think you could really sling?

Beef.

Just beef.

Just beef.

Yeah, just beef.

Where do you think

beef really needs like a jumpstart?

Because

we're selling American beef.

So already I've got the American Constitution.

Yeah, right.

I got the American Constitution, right?

So they're just going to put me on things to be like, eat big, like big American man,

right?

And it's going to be like beef, American beef for the big boy.

Right?

And it's going to be like, and I'll be like, oh, I'm so full with American beef.

Right.

Yeah.

i love it

yep

i figure our first market the first place we should open up our new beef place india

our beef place okay yeah our beef place yeah it's called lawson's they serve beef and not the mascot i'm like oh i love beef it's so good right and then we just we take it to india this is foolproof i bet they'll love it there I know that they will.

I fully believe.

They'll be like, you know what?

We thought about about it.

We have been wrong for so long.

We've done our market research.

I think we could do it.

It's a huge, a huge market.

So many people.

True.

I feel like, yeah, and all the commercials will be like, I've got a beef with you, India, right?

That's how we'll start it.

It'll be me, and I'll be like, you know, I have a beef with India.

Right?

And then we'll start a whole thing.

And then we get, we'll make billions.

Oh my God.

It can be like the long, long man commercials.

Sure, yeah.

I don't know.

You can tell a whole story.

The long, long man?

What is that?

Have you never...

Long,

long

man.

Have you ever seen these videos?

No.

Okay,

we can't get into it now.

What do you mean?

We can't get into it.

You can't.

How dare you?

We can't get into it now.

All I can tell you.

What do you mean?

I will link it to you after the stream.

Hold on.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

It's too long.

You can't do it.

Is this the fruit rollout, man?

Yes.

Long.

Okay, never mind.

Long.

I know who it is.

Okay.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

And so they did, what, like six commercials in a row, right?

That like told a whole infidelity story in order to sell taffy.

Right.

You know, so what I'm trying to say is we should just go for it.

Yeah.

We're looking for investors right now who would like to invest in selling American beef to India.

We could do this.

Yeah.

This would be a problem.

Oh, specifically American beef.

We're going to get them all tatted up.

We're going to put all the, we're going to put all the cows on Royds.

We'll make them listen to

like, you know, sweet home podcasts about like how, you know, like women are trash.

We'll get them all like jacked up and they'll be like, well, they'll send, we'll send them off to go get butchered.

And that meat will be extra juicy.

It'll be extra something.

Yeah.

We won't know until we, this is an experiment, really, at this point.

We won't know until it's done, you know.

Right, right, right, right, right, right.

This is truly one of the worst ideas that ever

was.

Maybe one of the worst ideas ever.

What else did you play this week?

So I

just started.

I don't know exactly how far I'm in.

I started playing Venture to the Vile.

Okay.

It is a game.

Like Vial, like a bottle?

Like a V-I-L-E.

Oh,

like Yucky Vile.

Yes, like Yucky Vile.

Just like that.

Yeah.

You.

Got it.

Um, it is a game that is uh

very story-heavy kind of looks like the characters are claymation kind of

okay

is

extremely mysterious and then also has kind of like a scary I don't want to say horror game element to it, but there's like some scares there, you know, the enemies will chase you around and uh

you know do like a whole like i'm popping out of the wall that kind of thing.

Okay.

um yeah

and it's it's weird so basically i don't even know how to describe this game you are

a

young man who

in your town for some reason people wear animal masks okay

i don't know

what exactly it is about about that or why they do that but everyone's last name is related to the mask they're wearing so okay

when you

like, there's one girl who's a little tiny goat girl.

There's one kid that's like a vole.

There's one lady who's a trout, like tilly trout, and she is a, I think maybe the school teacher.

I genuinely don't know.

But

the beginning of the game is you're a young child and you

graduate or age up.

Maybe like it's your 13th birthday.

Who knows?

But you get a different mask.

Now

your dough mask has horns.

Okay.

And so now you have your, uh, you know, you have like a different mask on, and you go off to celebrate the fact that you're a young man now.

And what ends up happening is

you will end up hanging out with your best friend, getting picked on by bullies, kind of like a long intro to set up the world.

And then you

fall, you, you like get beat up, and then time passes.

It's like time in the city passed and everything got, you know, you became older and people died and life moved on.

And then now you're an adult and the game finally starts and you fall in a hole that's filled with the vi, like the vile.

And it's this creature question mark that you get touched by.

And when you wake up, it's been a month and the town is overrun with vile creatures.

And you have now the ability in your arm to make a blade, and you run around doing quests for the people in the town, and the quests are like, Oh, yo, I need you to go and get me

this thing that is in my old house, but there's monsters in there, so like get in there and fully do that.

So you go, except all the characters sound like,

I don't want to say meeple,

but they're just like,

right, right, okay.

And so then you go around and you

do the different quests for people.

And that's kind of what the vibe is.

So a great example is one quest was, hey, go to the hospital, find medicine for this guy.

He's the lead cop.

He needs, you know, if we want to have police back on the streets, we need you to go get this medicine to the hospital.

The hospital's overrun, though, by these weird creatures.

And you're like, okay.

So you go to the hospital and you, it's like, it's one of those games where it's got like two levels.

So there's foreground, background, and you can move between the two, but you can only do so on certain paths.

And so you have to navigate the hospital or different areas by figuring out which one you need to be on, where to jump to, what hole to be down, that kind of thing.

So there's like an added layer to it.

But really, there's not a lot of, like there's a double jump, there's an attack, there's a parry, there's a dodge.

But that's kind of it, at least for now.

I'm sure there'll be more.

I don't know.

But it's...

How far in are you?

Like, how many hours?

Oh, God, three?

Okay.

But what's interesting about it is there's some things I love.

Like, I think visually the look is awesome.

It's very, very cool.

But mechanically, combat-wise, there's one thing I, the parry system drives me crazy.

So basically,

you are supposed to parry.

So if an enemy goes to attack you, there'll be a moment where there's like a blink.

Obviously, very tropey.

Like the blink is parry.

So the blink, but the blink happens before their attack cycle happens.

So you, you would think mentally, this is what I thought for a while.

Hand goes back, blink.

All right, here comes the attack.

Get ready to parry.

Attack Perry, right?

No, it is you press Perry the minute the blink appears, even though the attack won't happen for a second more.

So you're pressing Perry and your guy goes,

and then he attacks, bing, and it blocks off, and then you can parry.

Right.

But it's like super intuitive.

It's a weird timing thing that I was like.

Okay.

Meanwhile, the dodge is exactly what you would expect.

It worked great.

There's one boss where his whole thing is he jumps around and you have to dodge him.

And like, that worked perfectly fine.

I was like, oh, okay, well, I'm good at this.

But

yeah, it's, it's a very interesting game because it seems

hyper story heavy, but I don't know what the

like it's a Metroidvania, but not.

It's a

very combat heavy game, but not.

There's like so many different things with it.

I'm fascinated by this game, but I don't know even how to describe it to people because it is, it's like a weird hybrid of games.

It's like sometimes it's fast-paced, but sometimes completely not.

Sometimes you are in an area fighting a boss and the only way to beat him is you have to parry him and it's just a slow pro.

And you're like, okay, all right.

But

story-wise, it's fascinating.

I'm very curious where the hell this thing's going.

But yeah, I don't know if I just suck at these games, which is very true I do, or

I just am not great at the combat.

I don't know.

I have no clue.

But I'm playing through it.

I'll report back when I get a little further.

But I just started and I'm like, what is this game?

The art style of it looks really interesting.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't, again, I don't know why they're all wearing masks.

It's not even explained.

People in the town just do.

Like, the bully is just a bully.

He's just a kid, but he just has a mask on.

You, you're just a kid.

Your mom had a mask on.

like you're from the deer family so your dad was a deer your mom's a deer you're a deer but like why

and at first i was like was this a uh like a metaphor are we supposed to be this is metaphor for the forest and that i don't know i have no answers for you

couldn't even explain it if i wanted to

interesting yeah

I played, do you remember when I was talking about a demo for a game called, Is This Game Trying to Kill Me?

Sure, yes.

To remind everybody here, it was, I had, I think at the time described it as, it's like the escape room elements of Inscription,

where you're in sort of like a

creepy, weird house.

It's listed as a horror game.

I don't know that I would necessarily call it a horror game.

You definitely can die in it.

You can mess up.

You can get attacked by things.

But the horror elements are a bit goofy in a way that totally works.

It has like a theme and a vibe and it sticks with it.

But the cool thing about the game is that you're in this house.

There's this guy that's like, you're trapped here.

Play the game and all that, you know.

And there's a little computer, like an old computer that's playing.

what appears to be like an old NES style game.

And you can sit down to play it.

And as you start playing it, you realize that things that happen in that game affect the room you're in.

Interesting.

Okay.

And also things that you do in the room can affect the game.

So you're sort of trying to solve puzzles in both places by remembering, oh shit, this thing I'm struggling with, I might actually need to sit down and play the game.

Or, oh, I might need to get up and look around the room.

And so the more you play it, it like expands.

It lets you into more more and more rooms.

Very, you know, sort of classic escape room video game style.

It was only like four hours long, so very doable, not a very long game, but I liked it a lot.

I only got stuck, I think, on one puzzle, really.

So it wound up being really fun.

I'm really glad that I sat down to play it because I really liked the vibe of it and I enjoy, you know, like escape room type stuff.

So

would recommend it.

No,

I'm looking at it right now.

It looks, it has an inscription vibe for sure.

Yeah.

But it looks fantastic.

I must stress, and I mean this in like

to the audience.

I'm so sorry.

I listen to the way Dodger describes games.

Succinct,

informed,

absolutely lovely to talk about.

I want to listen to Dodger talk about games all the time.

Every time I talk about a game, I, in my own head, sound sound like a psychopath.

I don't know what I'm saying half the time.

I'm trying to describe concepts I don't know.

I genuinely have no clue.

I think it's nice to listen to you talk about games because you're very funny.

So you make it like really interesting and fun to like listen to you talk about games because

you have ways of making it really engaging.

You disagree.

I disagree.

I sound like I'm rambling a listener of yourself.

No,

as a person who hears myself in my head, I'm like, like, nah, Dodger's better at this than you.

I was never good at it.

All I'm good at is being like, that was cool.

Like that a lot.

Me like, me like game.

Oh my gosh.

Do you remember, rest in peace, we love you, John.

Do you remember how often on co-optional podcasts, we would be asked to describe why we liked a game?

And we'd be like, I don't know, it's a fun game.

And how much he hated that.

Yeah, it's, I don't know what to, I don't know what to tell you.

I'm not great.

great.

It's a fun game.

I like it.

I don't know.

Yeah, I'm not great at reviews.

Like, I don't know how to review a thing.

Because truthfully, if I don't like something,

10 minutes in, I'm like, nah, I'm done.

Like, I don't even, I don't have the patience to wait it out to see why I didn't like it.

If it just doesn't gel with me, I will not even attempt to play.

And I'm like, you know what?

I'm good.

I'm fine.

So it's weird because I only play things that I love.

So when I talk about stuff, I'm like, yeah, this is awesome.

Otherwise, I wouldn't play it at all.

But I think, God, I think that's basically,

those are like the two games that I played this week, really.

Good, because now we can talk about the true

glory.

Okay.

Civ 7.

Now!

Okay.

I got to play some already.

I'm going to play some more this weekend.

By the way, shout out to Civ for sponsoring those streams.

They didn't have to.

I would have played anyway, but I ain't ain't no fool.

I ain't no dumb-dumb.

And so,

yeah, apparently also for some insane reason on the 11th, I'm on the front page streaming that game.

So

come watch True Chaos.

Are you playing it with anybody or just by yourself?

I was playing it by myself.

I know Crendor and a bunch of other people were like, we should play a game.

I'm down.

I'm down to try it.

But I'd like to know more about how to actually play this thing.

Sure.

It is significantly different over six.

There are some things that feel the same.

There's also many things

that feel like a different genre of game.

There's a lot of things in it that remind me of some aspects of

Total War.

There's some aspects in it that are,

oh man, I'm trying to think what the fantasy version is where you would like build cities.

Boy, I don't remember the name of that game.

There's a lot of different mechanics going on.

There's little micro quests and things that appear.

There's moments where so like gameplay wise age of wonders yeah there's a lot of age of wonders there's it's like it's very interesting stuff so

when you start besides the you know the hopeful intro that always happens in these where this time uh you have brand of tarth coming in and being like mankind was born in the cradle of the earth But we long for the adulthood of the stars.

You know, like that kind of crap.

Sure.

Which is always great.

By the end of an intro to a Civ game, you're like, Cubans are pretty cool.

We're actually pretty fucking cool, right?

And so the game starts, and it's like, hey, pick a leader.

Now, it isn't the way it was before, which was, I'm playing as Teddy Roosevelt, for example, in six, and I'm America.

And this, it's pick someone.

You have a huge list.

And so, for example, I picked Benjamin Franklin because my idea was I would seduce the world into victory.

And I, you know, I thought that would work.

But then you pick a society.

And for Ben Franklin, for example, it would say, hey,

these are the, if you pick Rome or Greece, that's a great way to start.

But there's also, you could have picked any, you know,

ancient civilization.

There's so many to choose from.

And then what happens is at a certain point, like

the civilization era changes, and then you pick a new civ to be, basically.

But it's the same, you're the same civilization, but you're picking a new, I don't want to say origin, but

yeah,

it's interesting.

So

America, for example, doesn't show up until the third era, the third age.

So if you wanted to be Ben Franklin in America, you first would have to go down a certain path of like cultural foundations in order to get there.

And so, you know there's different so anyway i picked rome because i was like rome should be fun that we're gonna go for a cultural thing so startup is rome and it's like okay here's the deal instead of before where you would build things in your town center every square or whatever you would call those hexagon hexagon every single one has the ability to put two things on it.

That's it.

So, and some things synergize better together.

But if you put, you know, your main city, your main hex has the city, then you can put one other thing there.

Or if you want to build a farm, you could put one other thing there.

If you want to build a church,

you can put it on a hex, but then you could build one other thing there.

You could, for some reason, if you wanted to, you could build an altar plus mining pit.

Why you want to do that?

I don't know, but you could.

And

as you take a new hex, or

you sort of

add three more.

So it's like boop and then you get three more around it and then boop three more around it and you can expand that way.

So expansion isn't based on the population anymore.

It's based on where you like in six for example as your population grew you would then get a little thing that would say seven turns until you take over this coal resource.

You're like, okay.

I'll wait seven turns.

And this, it's like, all right, you now have the ability to choose where you want to go.

And now you take stuff over and becomes

it's that kind of thing where there's little tiny changes that i'm like okay i got to relearn how to do this and i got to relearn what this means you know there's there's

a different skill tree now the tech tree there's changes so i'm mentally used to an order that i have in my head which is like okay

Right away, we're getting a granary.

Right away, I'm building my second city.

Right away, I'm building like a route, a trade route between the two.

I'm gonna start getting money.

I'm gonna start doing the different, and then i'll start expanding rapidly so i can just win the game right but in this one you don't even get a settler right away so you have to you have to build into that i'm like

okay

what is my order of operations here then right also

there's things that happen in it so for example you'll get a person will say hey if you want to unlock certain things in this era, what you got to do is build us a world wonder.

I'm like, hell yeah.

okay, I'll do it.

Then I did, and it was like, you know, make it better than one, two.

I'm like, all right, sure.

And Rome is like, they love, they love the wonders.

They're here for it.

And then I built two, and they were like, you know what else would be better than two?

Four.

I'm like, what do you mean?

What do you want from me?

And then it's, but it's clearly leading to something that if you do them, you unlock something in your next era.

And I see.

So for Rome, there's all the different things that are normally, you know, you'd be like

metal working or uh sailing or whatever you know but there's also roman very specific things

that's oh yeah we're gonna try and build you know the baths or we're gonna build the the temple to you know zeus or whatever and uh i guess it wouldn't be zeus but you know what i mean and it's like uh once you do all that you unlock things

And it's, there's a lot going on.

And I just don't know how it all fits together yet.

I want to do another start and start as a different, someone entirely different and see the differences because

I like there's things that to me don't make sense but chats seem to very much understand.

Okay.

A great example is

you can get a legionnaire

and this guy will be like, hey, I'm the Legatus of this thing.

Come join me.

And you can have other troops join this Legatus.

And I'm told that's like, that's the thing that every other Civ has, but I guess it's probably named something different.

But there's, you know, here's a goddess, there's a commander, and you can have dudes join him.

And I was like, oh, cool.

I like the idea that I can make an army.

And instead of having disparate units around, I can form them all into one and send them to go attack.

So I march my army down to whoever the hell was attacking me at the time.

And I was like, I'm going to destroy them.

Let's go.

And I move him down.

And in my mind, I'm like, okay, I've made an army with a general.

Let's go.

And admittedly, that's in other games.

They've done that before.

It's whatever.

But in my mind, I'm thinking, I have multiple units stacked on this guy.

I'm in total war mode.

So I'm bringing them down.

I'm going to use the guy to attack.

No, you can't do it.

He will not attack.

All he does is troop transport these people and give them a buff.

So when I get down there, you have to separate all the guys that are in that unit again.

So mentally, I'm like, why did I do that?

I'm wasting a turn deploying them when I literally could have just made all the units and sent them down to attack.

Right.

Now, I know it's not, it's probably like, well, you're missing the buffs and you're missing the.

I get it.

It gets experience too.

But in my mind, I'm like, it just seems simpler to just attack them.

You know, like, why go through the process of loading everyone in, moving them down, loading everyone out?

When I'm just like, I could have just had all the guys and a wave of men go down.

Sure.

And it would have just been.

Is it as good?

No.

Is it more efficient?

Yes.

And that's, and I'm like, all right, well, I'm going to do this.

And chat was like,

you're doing it wrong.

No.

No.

I was like, it just seems easier.

Like, easy isn't always best.

I was like, I don't know.

In this case, it feels best.

In this case, it feels best.

Can I ask, as a person who has, I think the last time I played Civ was with you in Crendor and I didn't retain any of how it worked.

Sounds right.

How different

is Civ 7 from the other civilization games?

Every Civ,

you know what?

It's like Final Fantasy.

Okay.

There's some skeletal bits that are the same, but every Civ they change up and every Civ has its people that love it and people that hate it.

So for example, I have played all of them.

And while I think probably Civ 4 is my favorite, Civ 6, I have like 500 hours in.

So, you know, even though people were like, Civ 6 is terrible, I hate Civ 6, but for some reason, I was sitting there playing, having a good old time.

Was not even an issue for me.

I know a lot of people love Civ 5, but there's differences.

There's like each one is kind of a different vibe.

Now, if you go back and you play the originals, Civ 1, 2, 3, they are

one,

it feels very much like this is a sequel, right?

Like they don't get too crazy.

But at a certain point, they start deviating from what...

So originally, it would be like, I built a city and I can go to a city screen and see all the cool stuff I built in my city.

And eventually they did away with that.

And as the games progressed, they started showing it visually on the map.

So you would be like, oh, I built a space center.

Well, instead of going to a thing and then seeing the image of it, now you can see it on the map screen.

And instead of getting a cinematic of we're launching a rocket, it would literally just on the screen go

and shoot up into space.

Like, oh, that's cute.

Right.

And because they did that, they then could change the way the rest of the game played and now they're doing that they're they're changing it up and switching things probably civ 7 is a response to a lot of the other games that are out right now that you know are a little more in-depth than civ because at one point in time civ was kind of overwhelming and there's a lot of stuff going on and it seemed like oh my god

Now there's other games, Forex, there's all sorts of,

you know, I think Civ's, all right, well, we can step it up a a bit.

And so I think that's what they're trying.

Is it good?

I have no clue.

I've literally played two hours, but it is certainly, I'm in the overwhelmed stage for sure, where there's so much to learn.

So like there's moments where one town was just like, we are unhappy with you.

And I'm like, but why?

Like, well, that's how I always feel in those games.

I'll get a little alert that's like, so-and-so is real mad and they're going to come attack you.

And I'm like, what did I do?

I have a really hard time tracking cause and effect in those games i think

yeah and also in this one so in the last game there were barbarians so early game would just be a nightmare where you'd have to build a bunch of guys to defend yourself then go hunt down the barbarians and kill them in order to protect your cities uh and this one i had no barbarians right away things seemed fine and then out of the blue small little

named towns started to appear.

They weren't towns.

They were like fortifications.

And then wave after wave of dudes would just start attacking my cities.

And I was like, what the hell?

And at first I thought, oh, these are enemy leaders.

No, they're just dudes.

But the interesting thing is, when you conquer them this time, instead of wiping them off the map, they give you the option to just recruit them and send them to go attack another city.

Oh.

Okay.

And I was like, interesting.

So while part of me is like, oh, I could take their territory, another part of me is like wait a minute so i could just pay

these tribes to go and attack my enemies

okay

and and that's i like that i think it's very neat uh but also religion doesn't seem to be that big of a an issue oh what was that nothing keep going

what the whoa whoa I'm getting attacked by the Yawnies

because I didn't sleep very well last night.

And so I was doing some of these I'm so sorry audio only listen just imagine that I'm performing like a bird

just imagine you're having a conversation with someone and they start flapping like a madman

just imagine that that's what happened here I was talking to someone and then she literally just started jittering and then flapping her arms like she was gonna take off like she wanted to leave the conversation and go to space

that's not true that's very true I don't know what the hell just happened here

You like, what the?

Because when you do this, you get the like, I'm so sorry, I keep smacking the microphone.

You like slap your arms, and then you slap the backs of your hands together.

So it's like, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.

All right.

So you get rapid-fire ouchies.

Sim's fine.

Let's move on.

Very clearly, this woman wanted out.

Wanted to leave the conversation.

Fly away to space.

Get out of here.

I didn't.

Can I tell you a little factoid about that move?

I would love to know a little factoid about that move.

I had to do it as part of a routine.

When I was on dance team in high school, we would perform in the 4th of July parade every year and that was part of the routine that we did was this

so it's become my like

I don't know what to say to that

I don't even know how to I don't even know

what was the dance the dance was you just slapped your arms

you're marching so you can only dance with your arms so you're doing like this shit

You didn't have a flag?

You weren't one of the flag kids?

No, that's called Color Guard.

Wait, whoa, whoa,

whoa,

whoa.

So you weren't even one of the cool flag kids.

No.

You had no...

We didn't even...

No, I'll do you one better.

We didn't even have cool flag kids at my school.

I must, I must stress how funny this is to me.

So in the parade from the high school.

Yep.

Band kids.

Walking down.

The football team, like, hey, we're tossing a ball.

Hey, look at us.

We're on a float.

Cheerleaders, go, team.

And then in the back, the kids who just march and go

and like vogue it out.

That's what you did.

Imagine, imagine to yourself.

Oh, I'm imagining.

Okay.

You're in high school, right?

And there is a 40-something-year-old who is the head of your squad, your team,

yelling, high knees!

High knees, girls, high knees, for four weeks in a row while you're practicing this goddamn routine.

And then on the most broilingest day in lovely sunny Oregon,

you march through an entire tiny town doing this.

I must stress how insane that sounds.

Like you.

Again, again.

It sounds purposeless.

It sounds like they got a bunch of young people to just march, but then go like.

What's the biggest town you've ever lived in?

Can I ask that?

Like population-wise, do you think?

I mean, I'm currently in LA, so I think.

No, no, I'm so sorry.

The smallest town you've ever lived in.

Smallest?

Oakwood, Ohio.

Was it small?

It's like the size of the Vatican almost.

It's very tiny.

That's cute.

That's funny.

It's very cute.

Yeah.

So

imagine that you're in Oakwood.

The Vatican of Ohio.

Yeah, the Vatican of Ohio.

And they're like, we just really want to celebrate the 4th of July.

So we want to put on a parade.

But we're the size of the Vatican.

We are the Vatican of Ohio after all.

And so

we how do we cobble together a fun parade?

I know how.

I know what they would do.

And none of it involves

doing it.

Like it's that's that is how do you know that?

Because I was there.

I lived it.

We had parades always featured the one car that was like,

you know, I'm the prom queen in the back of the car.

And then it would have the shriners would show up.

And then you would have the kids with the flags And you would have the band.

And you would have, you know, like people dressed up as weird things, throwing candy at kids.

You would definitely have a cop who was for some reason like walking along with everyone.

But we never had, again, what you're saying is you and your friends would march while a woman yelled at you about high knees, which, by the way, I know you meant high knees, but in my mind, a four-year-old is shouting, ladies, high knees, high knees.

And she's definitely talking about butts.

And so you're walking.

And you

are just moving your hands.

Like, it's just, it sounds crazy.

Because I know that

makeup on.

I just know that you could have done like a cheerleader.

A cheerleader has a purpose.

The band has a purpose.

I don't know what the purpose is.

We're flare

for who?

We're The dance team.

We're flare for the parade.

But you're not dancing.

You're just

doing you're invoking.

You're like, strike a pose.

That's all you're doing.

It's crazy.

Look, dude.

They just needed bodies in this parade, okay?

They just needed bodies.

And so we were part of the parade every year.

Just like we also helped pick up beer cans at the rodeo every year, okay?

Wait a minute.

I don't know what you want from me.

Wait a minute.

You were on the beer pickup team?

Yeah.

So wait, your dancers were also the team that went to the rodeo and

picked up beer.

So pretty much all of the, all of the like teams.

All of the like groups would volunteer to do something because the rodeo in my town was like the big thing, right?

Sure.

So all the different teams would like volunteer to do aspects of the rodeo.

And two years in a row,

after everybody was done watching the Broncos and shit, we'd have to walk through the audience area and pick up all the beer cups and the beer cans.

That is.

And it was nuts.

It was genuinely hilarious.

But also makes me think about Ohio and how we had the exact same version of that, except it was monster trucks.

Wait.

Monster trucks were like

always happening.

Monster trucks sound so fun.

I've never lived in a monster truck town.

Tell me all about it.

It was monster trucks, air shows, professional wrestling.

Those are the three big draws for central Ohio.

That's all it was.

I'm not sure what the, I'm sure there might have been rodeos, but there was never, you'd only ever see ads for like the beast is back.

Go see Gravedigger tonight.

That's all we would get.

And then, yeah, pro wrestling, which is why when I lived in Ohio, late 90s, early 2000s,

dude, I must have seen so many live WCW, WWF wrestling things.

That's when it was like a show.

Wrestling now,

it's whatever.

It's fine.

It's fine.

Oh, you young kids, it's fine.

Back in in the day.

Back in the day.

Back in the day where the Undertaker would rise out of a coffin and his minions would be a good thing.

You were getting to the Undertaker.

His minions would spit blood.

And there was one guy who would be on fire.

And at one point, Stone Cold Steve Austin drove in a beer truck and then hosed down Vince McMahon with beer.

Dudes are coming from the rafters and like hitting guys with baits.

It was not wrestling.

I don't know what the hell it was, but that was the best.

That was great.

That's the kind of sport I'm here for.

I loved it.

It was barely any wrestling going on, really.

It was just men would show up, talk some shit.

A guy would get hit in the face with like a chair, and then mankind would throw someone off a 50-foot building and be like, This is the greatest thing I've ever seen my entire life.

It was great.

I love that.

Yeah, my childhood, the things that we would routinely watch, it was

wrestling,

it was

every season of Survivor, yep, and Smallville.

You know, for some reason, I could never get into literally any CW/slash WB show.

I just really, something about them is an immediate turnoff.

I don't know what it is.

Every single one.

In your entire lifetime.

Not once, never.

People would recommend a thing.

I'd watch the first episode and be like,

no.

To be fair, I can't think of a single one that I would be like, Jesse would love this.

That's what I'm saying.

Like,

I would call you up to be like, bro, did you ever watch Teen Wolf?

Because I know the answer, you know?

No.

No, I just wouldn't.

Homie, you know that episode of Charmed?

No, of course you don't.

No.

I don't.

I can't imagine any of those shows that I would immediately think.

And

I would do a whole YouTube channel devoting to watching Riverdale because I feel like if I could watch it, I think I would really enjoy how truly insane that show is.

Oh, never mind.

I was about to do exactly what I was just talking about, which is ask you, did you ever read the comics?

Of course you fucking didn't.

Archie?

The Archie comics?

I'm aware of them, but why would I read them?

I have no...

Exactly.

Here's how you get me to read your comic.

Is the dude on the cover brutally murdering someone?

Or two, is the dude on the cover actually a super hot woman wearing nothing?

That's how I'm reading your comic.

Dude, non-gender specific.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Look, I'm going to say it.

I've always said dude's non-gender specific.

I mean that.

Yeah, I always believe that.

A dude is a dude.

You can't, you know,

when you watch the Nickelodeon show, Hey Dude, which by the way is definitely more of my time.

Dude was everybody.

That's just the way it is.

Somebody, when I was living in Los Angeles, somebody was like, isn't it interesting how the longer you live on this coast, the more that dude just becomes objects?

Yes.

I was like, that's true.

Mm-hmm.

This, if I'm in the wrong mood, this is dude.

Dude, yeah.

Dude.

Yeah.

I also will, for some reason lately, I was saying over the last year.

I don't know why this started.

I have no answers for you, but I notice it now to the extent where I'm like, where did I pick this up?

I will be like, brother, what is the matter with you?

To everyone.

Doesn't matter.

And I'll be like, I'll be playing the game and be like, brother?

Like,

where did this come from?

Where did I get that?

I don't fuck that from.

Somewhere.

I don't know.

Dude.

I,

and I know exactly where this came from.

But I went on a trip with my kid over the weekend with one of her best friends and her best friend's mom, right?

And this kid

could not stop saying bruh

to everything.

Yes.

To everything.

And my kid was like, why do you keep saying bruh?

And she was like, I don't know.

It's just fun to say.

And by the end, by the end of that two days together,

do you think my child was also saying, bruh?

I'm waiting for you to say bruh all the time.

No.

Bruh.

I still call everybody homie and the people here think it's so funny.

So, and I love a laugh, so I'll keep doing it.

I bet they're like, it's quaint.

It's so quaint.

It's a reaction I used to get from y'all.

I don't get that anymore.

But when I call my child homie in front of a bunch of English people, they love it.

They eat it up.

See, that's the difference chat's trying to get me.

So I used to say bing bong all the time because, and I think it was because the movie Inside Out when the one guy's name is Bing Bong.

Bing Bong.

Bing Bong.

And And I say that all the time.

And then, for some reason, I just made it longer.

I go, Bing.

And I must emphasize this, bong.

That's where I'm at now.

I just made it longer.

Yeah.

I don't, I will say one of the things that interests me the most is

looking at social media.

When people post their

either like weird couple in a fight, or am I the asshole or whatever, you look at the conversations.

Half the time, people are are like, bruh.

I'm like, time out.

Are you dating?

You just, that's how I know I'm old.

When I'm like, you just called the person that you love, bruh?

Like, that's weird as shit.

Like, that's weird.

What do you mean, bruh?

Like, that's that.

You shouldn't do that.

But that just proves that I am a thousand years old.

Backing up a little bit, if it makes you feel better about the bing-bong thing.

Bing-bong.

I,

God,

I don't even know for how long, maybe a year, was saying, Ka chow

all the time.

And I finally at one point went, What is that from?

And everybody in chat was like, Cars.

And I was horrified.

Like, oh my God, it is from cars.

Yep.

That's like I literally could not remember where I got that from.

And the second someone said, it's from cars, I went, oh, oh, my God.

I've been quoting cars for like a year.

Ca chow.

That's like when people would say,

oh my God, what is the pan, the

panda one skadouche?

Skadouche, yeah.

Skadouche.

And I'm like, come on now.

You can't just

that panda skadouche.

Come on.

This is pop culture has absolutely destroyed us.

We are we are the dregs of society.

What happened to us?

What happened to us?

We always were.

It's fine.

It's fine.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You say that.

You say that, but I don't know that it's true.

I'm over here like, yeah,

what other weird things have I picked up?

Oh, you know what the one is that I think I imparted on everyone?

I'm pleased with this.

To this day.

One of the things I used to say years and years ago, and now people are doing it, and I'm like very pleased with myself.

They'll say, well, I don't like, maybe it's over there, question mark.

The question mark?

I'm still adding question mark to the end.

Yeah.

I'm very pleased with that.

I used to do all the time, and now people do it.

And I'm like, I think I started that

question mark.

I am the original.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yep.

That's where I'm at with that.

Ah.

Goodness.

Is that an ah, goodness, it's time for news?

Is that an ah, goodness?

I'm tired of your shit, Jesse.

I'm never tired of your shit, Jesse.

It might be time for news.

I hadn't looked at the clock.

I don't know.

I was just,

I was just trying to

determine what was going on with you.

Let me feel it.

How long do I think that we've been doing this?

I'm going to try not to look at OBS.

I think

we've definitely gone over an hour.

This is, what are you doing?

What is happening?

This is me trying to determine whether or not I, like a cat, can tell how much time has gone by.

You can't.

Why?

Because you're not a cat.

Despite your ears and lifestyle, you're not a cat.

Why are you saying that, like, people can't have a general gauge of like how long they've been doing something?

I don't believe you specifically do.

Right now or in general?

In life.

In general.

Why?

What have I ever done to deserve slander?

What haven't you done?

What, you know,

instead of asking questions, just accept the answer.

I think we've been doing this

for

an hour and 40 minutes.

That is so much longer than we have been.

Really?

Is that what it feels like to you to talk to me?

No.

An hour and 40 minutes of time?

Is that how I feel to you?

Like I'm just wasting an hour and 40 minutes of your time?

It's 5.37.

When did we start recording?

An hour and 8.

Not exactly at 8.

Someone couldn't get her stuff to work.

Pre-show doesn't count.

Who?

I don't know.

Some cat girl.

We've been recording for an hour and 20 minutes.

There you go.

So it's 20 minutes off.

Well, I must stress to you that

we really managed to stall for some awesome content right there.

The kids love it when we talk time and how long our recording is.

They're big fans of it.

In the comment section, why don't you tell us what time it is in your country?

Thank you so much.

Also, what temperature is it?

Also, Also, do you slap dance?

We would love to know.

Have you ever slap danced?

Yeah, have you ever slap danced and did a whole thing?

I don't think we called it slap dancing.

I'd just like to point out.

It would have been cooler if you did.

It's called slap dancing.

What was it called?

Being in a parade.

Dancing in a parade where you had to march.

Well, it's called slap dancing now.

Parading.

It's called slap dance.

Dodger dodger was a slap dancer in high school

on the slap dance team if we were still doing our travel show yes the original geekenders if you will yes if we were still doing our travel show

it would have been very fun to do a

i go to watch monster trucks in your old town and you go to watch the rodeo In my old town.

I'm glad that's what you said because I thought you were about to say, I go to watch monster trucks, you slap dance.

Like, nah, I'm all right.

I'll go to a rodeo.

I'd have fun.

Yeah.

I could do a rodeo.

I'd get a, what do they have at rodeo's?

You're going to have an

elephant ear.

Go get an elephant ear.

Yeah, okay.

Just a ginormous pastry.

Great.

Yeah.

Yeah.

To sit in the stands with a beer.

A beer and an elephant ear?

A beer and an elephant ear.

Love that.

And you can watch some of the kids from town chase goats.

Yeah, okay.

That's one of the like in-between things, activities.

Um, yeah,

it'll be a blast, dude.

You ever just think about how absolutely insane it is that we

built rockets and blasts into space when

you're like, watch those kids chase goats?

You need a balance, dude.

We need a balance.

We straight up have been to space and yet still enjoy kids chasing goats.

And

the kids will always love to chase a goat, dude.

You think that's what we'll bring to the universe?

When we join the Great Galactic Society, they'll be like, What do you bring us, Earth?

Yo, you chase kids chasing goats?

That's crazy.

Y'all got bookaroos on Mars?

I'm gonna show you how.

Yee-haw.

Yeah, everyone loves a good goat, Chase.

Anyway, we should go to a rodeo.

I guess is the point.

We should go to a rodeo.

We should, you know, where we should go?

Hmm.

Do the research.

To bed.

Sorry.

What kind of intrusive ass thought was that?

What the hell?

What the hell?

Why did you.

What were you thinking?

Curs goes, to bed!

I'm sorry.

Oh, you're tired, are you?

Didn't sleep that much, did you?

Can I ask you a question?

I mean this in the nicest way.

I know you were going to go play TFT today.

Did that fry your brain?

Are you stupid now?

What happened?

That's sweet that I wasn't stupid before.

That's why I like you.

Always the optimist.

You found the silver lining and you latched on to it.

And honestly, that's why I like shiz.

There's a lot of ways you could have gone.

you were like you know what

thank you for saying I wasn't stupid thanks for the compliment

oh my god oh uh-huh I'm so sorry do you even remember what you were

saying I'm sorry

I was going to say you should do the research and look up if there's rodeos in the UK.

I would love to go to a UK rodeo.

That's a really good idea.

Like, can you imagine what they'd be like?

I don't know what a British southern accent would sound like.

God, I want to know.

I want to.

For some reason, in my mind, I imagine they're just like British dudes, but they also live in the South in America for some reason.

Sure.

So they have like an accent.

You have to intern in America for a while in order to have a rodeo out here.

Yeah, the UK has a South.

Yeah, I'm aware of that, but I'm saying it's...

It's mean,

yeah.

It's not like I want to see a dude in like

Levi's and a cowboy hat riding a horse, and then he gets off and he's like,

Holiday pilgrim, but he also is British, so I don't even know what that would sound like, but I want that,

yeah,

yeah, very badly

because I told him the idea of a guy getting off a horse and like tipping his cowboy hat and being like, Oh, right,

like it does does not, it doesn't compute.

Yep.

If you're wondering what accent that was, it was uh,

I don't know, Welsh, sure, great.

Sure, yeah, checks out.

Oof,

what a great time we have.

Yes, absolutely.

I'm just delighted.

Constantly.

To be here with you.

Are you laugh?

Are you delighted?

You take one week off.

You come back

like an insane person.

You start talking about

dance slapping.

You start going crazy, saying about how you need to sleep.

I don't.

You take one week off.

This whole thing falls apart.

You're the core.

I'm supposed to be the wild one.

You're the

rock of this podcast.

Yeah, you're supposed to hold us up.

Okay.

Simply, I don't know what it collapsed.

I'm supposed to be sucking.

I will get it together for next week.

Really?

Really?

Yeah, you should.

You should.

I will.

There's so many visual gags happening this episode.

I don't know.

Audio listeners.

I don't know what's going on with you.

How are you?

Audio-only listeners.

Apparently, on cocaine.

No, what's happening?

There's a hair on my nose.

There's a hair on my nose.

Right, right, right.

Right.

Dodger's nose is itchy, and

Dodger's acting crazy.

So I don't, uh, I don't know, you know, Dodger dabbing.

I'm just saying,

if you have a problem,

you can let me know.

I don't have a problem.

be honest with yourself

anyway um

what is the news today jessup so hey some fun stuff here that i think is very interesting first off in the news did you know that canonically now

In Star Wars,

Darth Vader went back and killed Waddo

Why?

Because he sold his mom, his mom, they were slaves.

So, I mean, like, he went back and killed him.

But if you ever want to know where that story went, apparently, Vader went and killed Waddo.

So now you know that.

Everyone, everyone, everyone gets to know that information.

So that's a whole thing.

Is it important?

No.

But is it funny?

Yes.

Yeah.

Fantastic.

We got a new

informational bit about

Astartes.

We're getting an Astartes 2.

Very cool.

So I assume that's based off the back of the fact they locked that man in a basement and said, yo, make us this

Amazon video.

And so I'm very excited for what's to come.

Gonna be awesome.

Then,

apparently, we have a...

I don't even know what this really is, a 25th anniversary Sims and Sims 2 re-release.

Okay.

I mean, okay.

Like the OTAN.

That's kind of neat.

But like, there's 8 billion Sims, and I, you know, I'm not going to sit here and pretend that that's like

the coolest thing.

I'm sorry.

It's the Sims.

Then we also got a Fantastic Four trailer.

And that's, it's interesting.

I have no idea what it's going to be like, to be honest, but it looks interesting.

And then, obviously.

When is the release for that?

Oh,

that's interesting.

Do we have a release shape?

Did they say in the trailer?

I don't know.

I don't know when the release.

July 25th.

Okay.

Then we have the

great news that

there is the, I guess.

All right.

I don't know what actually this means, but I love it as a...

fan of the old series because

I had to watch it due to someone I was dating at the time.

But I never watched it on TV.

I watched it after the fact.

But apparently, we're getting a Buffy reboot,

which is interesting.

And I think they're bringing Sarah Michelle Geller back,

which I don't know what that means, but very curious.

I don't know what this show would be, but the original was just the right kind of bad.

Like, I don't think it's a good show.

And anyone who's like, that show is great, I don't know that I agree with you.

But...

It was the kind of bad where I'm like, oh, this is fun.

Gotcha.

Yeah.

Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is out.

It is a game that I definitely want to play, but it's a game that every time I attempt to play, I realize the suck of the combat.

At least for the first one.

The first one, y'all, I don't know what's going on with the combat and that, but

I suck at it.

And it's infuriating.

What now?

What kind of game is Kingdom Come Deliverance?

Medieval, very like Earth, down to Earth.

Like, uh, I'm trying to think of what you, how would you describe it?

Non-magical, medieval.

It was, uh, you play a character, you go through the world of this, this medieval time period.

I don't know.

Think.

Oh, I remember the first one of this.

Yeah, I was about to say, think Skyrim minus magic plus more in-depth combat.

To the point where the combat is like.

Okay.

But yes, Bohemia is the word I was looking for.

Yeah, it's a medieval sim.

You're doing a bunch of cool stuff.

It's a peasant simulator.

Honestly, my hope for the second game is that I'll be able to be a complete piece of shit.

Like, I don't want to.

I love the option.

Yeah, I don't want to

be a good knight.

I want to be like a bad man.

And I want to just murder.

I want to be a black knight, you know?

I want to go from town to town and be like, you're in my way, slash.

You know?

That's what I want.

You know, I want to be the guy who's like, eat your chicken, slash.

Right.

Trying to think of things the hound did in Game of Thrones, but I honestly can't remember.

Yeah.

That's what I want to be.

I want to be truly terrible.

So that's a plan.

Then we also have, this week we're getting Date Everything, which is the

dating sim where you can literally date anything.

It has a bunch of voice actors that are basically, as far as I can tell, just people people from the internet.

So if you like internet people, they're in the game.

Hopefully that'll be fun.

Sadly.

But

yeah, I don't know.

I have no idea.

We'll see.

We'll see.

Because there's part of me that feels like the game has like a something else is going on in there.

Oh, it got delayed?

Oh, man.

Well, all right.

Never mind.

Yep.

Yeah, I get the same feeling.

I think it's going to be a hot-to-full boyfriend type type of thing where you're like, oh, it's a funny game where you date everything.

And then the more that you play it or the more that you date everything in the house, you're like,

wait, what's this game actually about?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think there's going to be some depth there.

I'm hoping it is that because the idea of dating sim never really appeals to me, but the idea of like, this is going to be weird.

always appeals to me.

So the idea of like, you can date anything.

I'm like, oh, that's cute, but I wouldn't play it.

But the idea of like,

it could be crazy.

I'm like, okay.

And then you end up with.

Sorry.

I was about to ask if you wound up playing my side or me side.

I gave it a look because I was thinking about, hey, I would love to do that for Scare Game Squad.

It's not nearly as scary as I thought it was going to be.

If anything, it's like a little too horny.

I'm like,

everybody makes it sound like it's a terrifying game and I was really curious about it, but it's clearly not the right vibe for my stream.

So,

yeah, it's not, it's not terrifying.

Honestly, I think you could do it on stream and be just fine.

There's some moments where it's clearly designed to be scary, but it's not a scary game.

It's like fun, it's fun, it's creepy, uh, but it's not, I wouldn't say scary.

There's like one or two scenes where it's probably like,

but I don't know that I would call it a scary game.

Um,

sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

Keep going, yeah.

Um,

then, uh, I guess since that is not accurate

and uh, date everything is moved, we also got that um

everyone's favorite game, Sleeping Dogs.

Similu is uh wants to do like a whole thing with that.

So, Simu, I hope that's awesome.

I would love to see a live-action sleeping dogs.

The game was whatever, but the premise,

pretty cool.

Everyone is saying, uh especially pc gamer has an article about civ 7's uh

rough start

it does honestly all civ games have a rough start and everyone who's like man

this civ doesn't feel like the last one that's because the last one had 80 updates and like 15 dlc like you know so we'll see what happens with that but um the game's not even out technically yet

Then we also have Warner Brothers Game Division.

According to Jason Schreier, it's just like a mess.

But I would say that about Ubisoft, and I would say that about EA, and I would say that about many of the AAA companies.

I would say they're completely a mess.

So I don't know that that's, you know, news in a games industry way, but there's a lot of problems in the games world at the moment.

And so, yeah, that's kind of a mess as always.

But

yeah, that's pretty much it for the news.

It is

all sorts of cool stuff, but, you know, nothing yet.

Clearly, I was excited for Date Everything, but that's not happening.

So, that'll happen in June, I guess.

So, really?

Yep.

So, we'll just sit tight and play a bunch of stuff that surprises us over the course of the day.

I have a lot of

things to play.

Yeah, I'll learn about this game, so help me, God, it'll happen.

Amazing.

Thank you so much, Jessup.

What's going on with you this week?

Well, what's happening in your life?

If you um hold on the Final Fantasy 14 live letter happened.

It was all in Japanese.

I haven't seen it.

I'll just go read the Reddit post about it.

You know me.

I'll do that.

Hey, everyone.

This week, something fun's happening.

And it may lead to something fun on this show, but no spoilers.

All of you who started watching this show or found us through the fact that I discovered Holo Live and was like, what the hell?

A lot of you said, Jesse, you should sit down and talk to someone who knows about Hololive so they can tell you about Hololive.

And I said, okay, we'll see what we can do.

And that spawned a whole new show

that really, I'm just poaching guests we've had on this show and I'm doing other things.

It's called Tell Me About.

And it's a show that is purely for me, but I'm hoping you'll watch and enjoy, where I sit down with someone who knows something that I don't know, but I'm curious about, and they tell me about it.

And our first few episodes, episode one comes out Monday, and it's me and Coefficient talking about Hololive.

And I learn everything I need to know about Hololive and may even get a tip on someone we should have on this show.

And we'll leave it at that.

Tune into that to see the future of maybe Geek Enders.

Who knows?

Who knows?

The second episode is going to be with Necrit, who we had on this show, to talk about Arcane and League and the future of both and what it all means.

We deep dive that, and I'm very, you know, me, I'm a lore nerd, so I'm like, what does that mean?

And how does this work?

So that's episode two.

And then episode three,

our dear friend Amy talking modern day Magic the Gathering with me because honestly, I don't understand it anymore.

And so I'm hoping to get a refresher on magic.

So that's a whole thing.

And then more to come.

Hopefully, you know, you'll give me some feedback and what you want to see.

So that's coming down the pipeline absolutely yeah

i saw a clip from your first episode i think on youtube yep as a youtube short and i was like oh that's happening yep it is happening

so

not only for that but also for this show make sure that you follow youtube.com slash bessie cocks that's where the vods for all of the geek enders is live yep and uh hey make sure

all of jesse's fun Twitch.tv/slash Dexbonus because you're watching right now.

Why aren't you following?

Why aren't you following?

Oh my gosh.

If you're here right now, why aren't you following Dodger?

What's the matter with you?

How sweet.

Well, you know,

while we're at it.

Oh, boy.

Go to a rodeo.

Hey, while we're at it, slap your arms around while you walk down the street.

Just slap your arms around a little bit.

If you feel a little sleepy,

and you don't want to like full-on slap yourself in the face because it's alarming, just slap your hands together.

If you're on a podcast right now and you're feeling tired, just slap dance, baby.

Just slap dance a little bit.

Just slap, just slap dance.

And then go to a local rodeo.

Maybe volunteer to pick up some beer cans.

Yeah.

It's riveting.

There's nothing going on with you.

Yeah.

Much like this podcast, riveting.

There's nothing going on with me this week.

I keep finishing games, which is a delight, but also makes me go, what am I going to play now?

I can't explain to you the void in my heart when I finished Ender Magnolia because it was such a wonderful gaming experience, which we love.

But it's one of those situations where I finished the game and then went, now what?

So I don't know.

I guess we'll see.

I can't wait to see.

You know what?

If you want, if you have time, we can schedule some more Life is Strange.

I would love that.

People be bugging us.

They love for us to get strange with those girls.

Let's do it.

All right.

I have many, many an evening, an English evening free.

What does that mean, though?

An English evening is what time LA?

That's the thing.

When you say English evening, I'm thinking like 4 a.m.

1 p.m.

for you.

Okay.

That's 9 p.m.

for me.

All right.

As long as you have an English evening free.

Tell me what days

you are free at 1 p.m.

in Los Angeles.

All right.

I'll get on that.

He says, as he looks at his calendar and sees no free one time slot.

Sure.

Hey, gang.

Thanks so much for watching the show.

As always, we appreciate every single one of you.

Whether you're listening to us, watching us,

showing us to your mom.

Hey, moms

I Hope you liked the show.

Hey mom.

Did you did you slap dance?

Hey moms out there.

You

a slap dancer.

What's the slap dance?

Did you have as a fellow mom?

Right.

Did we all slap dance?

Yeah, is it a mom thing?

Do all moms slap dance?

Hmm.

I guess we'll find out.

I'm going to wait for you.

Let us know in the comments section.

Yeah.

I've done no science on this.

I've not researched this at all, but I'm willing to say the percentage of moms who slap danced as a kid versus women who are not mothers

much higher you think more moms slap dance than not i'm gonna say it might be a requirement to be a mother you have to slap dance

i guess then you'd also need to like sort of make

a thing that describes exactly what counts as slap dancing right yeah i'm i'm genuinely worried.

I'm going to look at my phone and get a message from my own mother who's like, when I was young, I used to be in the

drill team or whatever the hell you were.

Like, I did that.

I'm going to get that message and I'll be like, damn.

I really, yeah, I am accurate on this.

Yeah.

Let us know, mom.

I would also like to know about that.

Anyways, hey, have a great week, guys.

We'll see you next Friday.

And

you know what?

I'm sure next Friday, the show still won't make any sense.

So buckle up.

Bye.

Yeah, yeah, you know what time it is.

It's time for the geek in this podcast.

Mega Rand, Jesse and Dodger.

What up?

Let's go.

Yo, it's the weekend.

Yeah, it's time to geek out.

Let it be kidding.

Go on, stream and shout.

It's Jesse and Dodger.

So give them a follow and see what the geekenders are all about.

Yo, it's the weekend.

Yeah, it's time to geek out.

Let it be kid.

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So give them a follow.

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Got a job and a kid, I know that you all beat.

So take a second, grab a drink, and vibe.

While we catch you up in just a matter of time on gaming, comics, whatever you're doing.

If you're nerdy like us, then you know you should tune in.

Thank you for sharing our world with us.

Now follow, subscribe, and turn to some.

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Yeah, it's time to geek out.

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