54: The Geekenders: The Game Awards 2024 Recap

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Hello, everybody, and welcome to Geekenders.

Potentially

the Game Awards edition.

I assume we're not.

Potentially.

I assume we're going to talk about the Game Awards quite a bit.

Do you watch Game Awards?

So, no, but

no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

I've learned my lesson and I did homework before

coming to GeekEnders today.

So I know who won all the awards and I watched a ton of trailers.

So I do know things this time.

It's not all resting on your beautiful shoulders to explain literally everything to me.

You're welcome.

Hey, thank you for that.

Unexpected, but,

appreciate it.

It was a fine award show.

I think for the first time in a while, it actually felt like an award show.

And we also got all the trailers everyone loved.

And then truthfully, honestly,

bringing in Waldorf and Statler to brutally mock Jeff the entire time.

I'm here for it.

I'm here for it.

Smart.

I will take that.

Bring them back next year.

They were great.

I laughed every single time.

I was like, these are good roasts.

This is good stuff.

I guess, like, it's, it's sort of the concept of if I make fun of myself first,

then it's not as much fun for you to make fun of me, right?

Like, they've done this for enough years that they're like, everybody's going to take the piss anyway.

So why don't we get ahead of the game?

Yeah.

And it's also a good way to,

I guess Jeff really loves Muppets.

I don't know what the deal there is, but he he keeps having Muppets on.

And I feel like if you're going to have Muppets, you might as well have the two that are universally just going to roast the hell out of you and everyone's going to love.

So honestly, good call.

Very fun little addition.

The Kojima joke was hilarious.

Maybe one of the funniest jokes I've heard in a while, especially because it was just like a gut punch to Jeff.

And I was like, all right, I'm glad they've included this.

That shows at least he's aware of criticism, which I was pretty excited about.

Yeah.

And then we got a lot of great speeches.

Everyone was pretty chill.

Nothing ran too long.

And the speeches that were long were ones that were needed.

So we had a lot of people being like, hey, industry,

what the hell is the matter with you?

I was like, yeah, get them.

I'm glad that they honored,

oh, God, I keep forgetting his name.

The dude who like literally created spreadsheets to help people get jobs who were

laid off this past year.

Right.

I'm glad they gave him award.

It was

interesting to see that he was recognized, but the entire time I was thinking, it's just like when you see,

you know, like a group of

school students all put on a bake sale and raise $12,000 so their friend Jimmy could get a kidney.

And you're like,

that's sweet.

that's so cute however why are we at the point where children have to raise money for other children like that kind of thing right I see

I was wondering where you were going with that but I see the comparison yeah it's like I get it and it's awesome and beautiful this dude was helping but it's crazy that like a random person

had to help because the industry so screwed up Right.

I was like, all right, I mean, I'm here for this, but it should tell tell you a lot about the state of the industry.

That, like,

a random do-gooder had to be like, I'll do something about it.

It's like, I mean, that's basically the Batman's like, someone's got to clean up the city.

Someone's going to clean up these streets, yeah.

It's like, you mean the cops aren't doing it?

No, I've got to dress up like a bat and go fight crime.

Like, oh, okay.

Oh, my goodness.

Yeah, I'd be the guy in Gotham.

It's like, why aren't the police doing the job of the Batman?

We don't need a Batman.

We need better police force.

Right.

Why are we we letting the Joker run free constantly?

That's just a man dressed like a clown.

How the hell is he out of prison again?

Yeah.

It was like three hours long.

Is that right?

Oh, yeah.

It was a long time.

How did it feel pacing-wise if it was that long?

Honestly, it flew by.

It was the first one of these in a while that flew by.

I was shocked that it was as long as it was because when I looked down and it was eight, I was like, didn't we start at four?

What the hell just happened?

Yeah, I was pretty, pretty impressed.

I think all the reveals were fun.

The reveals that weren't

like you, you could immediately tell which reveals were, hi, we're a company with a bajillion D dollars, so we're just gonna pay for it.

But most of them were like, yeah, all right, okay, that looks awesome.

You know what?

Hell yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Plus,

you know, Witcher 4 stole my heart, so I'm very excited.

Of course.

That's gonna be great.

Yeah.

When I saw that Astrobot won a bunch of stuff,

I was like, I'm sure Jesse was delighted.

When I saw that there was a Witcher 4 trailer, I was like, I'm sure Jesse was delighted.

I was, I don't know if I was like keyed in to the matrix of Jeff Keeley,

but I was nailing it.

I think I was, I would say,

95% accurate on all my picks.

There were a few where I just simply,

like, I didn't know.

I was like, I guess Faker will win, right?

But like, the esports ones, I had no clue.

Or like, what wouldn't sports game of the year?

I was like, I don't know.

I hope maybe wrestling will win because that's fun.

But everything else, I was just like,

making guesses.

And it'd be like, and the winner is like,

should I go to Vegas?

What is happening?

I was nailing it.

I did feel like, because

for any of you who are

maybe wanting to watch other episodes of Geek Unders, we had had an episode a few weeks ago where we sort of went through the nominees.

And I think after doing that episode, when I looked to see who won, I was like, oh,

yeah, we're pretty on the pulse with that.

Or at least Jesse was.

Like,

nothing really surprised me.

I'm

fairly pleased by the whole experience.

Happy to see that they,

you know, I don't want to say spiced it up.

If anything, they like

de-spiced.

I don't know how to just, it was just,

it felt like what it always should be.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like it wasn't, it didn't feel

like Snoop came out.

And if this was last year, it would have felt weird.

But for some reason, this year, I was like,

feeling it.

I'm like, yeah, let's go, Snoop.

I don't know why.

I can't explain it.

It just had like a better vibe this year

overall.

Even though comparatively, I don't know that it was like I can't

figure out

where the line between good award show and shameless award show is,

but it's there.

And last year they crossed it and this year they didn't.

And I don't know how to define that.

And I don't know how to explain it, but it's just, it's something you know, right?

Like Harrison Ford being there

could have been weird and awkward.

Instead, man poo-pooed the teleprompter and it was hilarious.

He was like, I'm not going to read that anyway.

I was like, yo, okay.

It was really funny and charming.

And I thought that was great.

I was going to say, I think some, maybe sometimes, you know, when you can tell

that the people involved are at ease versus being able to tell that they're not.

Like, it sounds like

the way that people got involved with the show and did their part in the show had more ease to it.

Like they were having a better time behind the curtain.

And thus everything in front of the curtain felt, had just a better vibe, like you were saying.

Yeah.

And it seemed more.

I don't know.

I don't want to say put together.

I think every year it's put together very well.

It's just for some reason, they were locked in this year.

And I think, I genuinely think after the last one, Keely and team heard the criticism.

Because it wasn't just from like, you know, contrarians on the internet.

It was, everyone was like, last year sucked, dude.

What the hell was that?

Right.

And so they clearly listened.

And it was great.

This year was great.

So loved all of that.

Watching Astrobot, like Astro sweep, crazy.

Crazy.

Even crazier, watching them be like, I want to thank Mario.

Because of Mario, Astrobot.

I was like, what is happening right now?

Are we?

What are we doing?

So I was very, I was pleased by that.

Shocked that Astrobot won as much as it did.

But also, Bellatro swept all the indie stuff, which I was saying the entire time.

I was like, you can't nominate Bellatro as game of the year and not give them every indie award.

Like, it makes no sense.

Yeah, it totally made sense for them to get best mobile game, indie game, all of that stuff.

I was like, best, like, first time game.

Like, yeah, of course.

Like, there's no way it doesn't win that.

And then the fact that they were just like, and then all these adventure things, Astrobot, I was like, yo, I was shocked by the amount Wukong won.

Like, I expected Wukong to wing something, but Wukong was like...

Got best action game, I believe.

Yeah.

I was

just very impressed.

Yeah.

Yeah, I thought that was interesting.

It was a good night all around.

I was impressed.

Yeah, I think the only thing I was

disappointed on was best adaptation, but I think even when we chatted chatted about it before, it was like, either it's going to be Arcane or Fallout.

And Fallout won it.

I feel like even just with how like the animation industry is right now, it would have been nice to see Arcane win because they've had such a staunch like no AI message and made like a beautiful show.

It was art.

Like Arcane usually is art.

I will say the reason why I thought Fallout was going to win, and I said this on the stream where I was like,

I know it sounds crazy, but do you think Fallout's going to win?

Because they announced the show last year at the BGA

game awards.

Right.

And I was like, they were on stage.

The entire cast was there.

Do you think, and then they're like, Fallout wins?

And I was like,

I mean, you know, maybe, maybe there's something to that.

Someone said that

you could make the argument that Fallout was a better adaptation of what the game is, whereas Arcane is

a, you know, is the lore, but not an adaptation of the game.

I would 100% agree with that.

Yeah, I think Fallout,

Arcane did this as well, but Fallout made me want to play the game and experience it.

And Arcane makes me want to see more of the universe.

Yes.

But I don't want to play League after I watch Arcane.

After I watch Arcane, I want to like, oh,

is there like something I can read?

You know, like, is there something else I can do in this universe besides actually play your game?

Go find comics and stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's, I think that's the goal of every good expanded universe properties to make you want to pick up the game and play it, which is why, again, like Edge Runners was very, very good.

It's like, yeah, we...

I want to go play in that world.

I want to run around in that world.

Yeah.

And then you could, right?

And the problem with Arcane is that I want to play around in that world.

And it's like, no, dude, you got to go to Summoner's Rift and fight

Teemo and

Glints and Scraggs

and Forsen

and

Hardmaster.

If you're wondering, Jesse, do you play league?

No, I made all those characters up.

They aren't even league characters.

You didn't even know.

You shocked me.

You shocked me.

Can I admit something to you since we're talking about this?

I started playing League this week.

Didn't you start playing League before?

Because all of your,

I hesitate to call them friends.

I'm going to say abusers

made you, they were like, yo, I'll play with you.

No, I don't.

I was the problem.

I really don't want them to take the flack for this.

I can't remember if I talked about this last week or not, but

yeah, I went to Sam and I was like, hey, I might want to try league.

Would you play league with me?

And he was like, no, if we play together, we'll get divorced.

And that sounds right.

Yeah.

And so I went to Summer, and Summer said, Hell yeah, bitch, let's play immediately.

What are you doing right now?

So I've been

playing A-Ram only

like a couple times a night,

and it's pretty fun.

but I have been informed that this is a gateway drug to actual Summoner's Rift, and I don't want to play actual Summoner's Rift.

I mean, it doesn't have to be.

Honestly, I'm gonna let you know what's gonna happen.

What?

This is a phase.

You're going

what just occurred?

You what?

You went from

transforming.

Keep talking.

Yeah, you became like one of those metropolis robots.

What the hell just happened here?

He went from like a real human being to robot, to metal woman of the future.

Yes, hello.

I must stress, it really accentuates your cheekbones.

Thank you.

Not that I'm

not a thing.

They're quite large.

Those cheekbones are massive.

My chicus?

My chicuses?

They're not that big.

My cheek is

sounds dirty.

Are you looking at my cheekus?

Are you looking at my cheekbones?

Am I?

I don't know.

Don't do that.

How dare you?

How dare you be like,

I got cheekbones that could cut glass.

How dare you?

I need that I need that as a black and white image

I want to start I want to start like trying to like sell you as the Sigma male

Want to start posting memes of you and be like Sigma men know what's up

oh god

sigma dudes is trouble that's it bro

sigma dudes told sam that if you they play league of legends together that uh you're not worried because there'll always be someone else divorce is only one path in your creative journey oh my god Sigma Dukes is trouble

does not care about anyone but Sigma Dugues.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh my God.

What were we even talking about?

It doesn't matter.

I don't know.

Squidward, what were we talking about?

We weren't talking about the game awards, and then you were just like,

I'm going to show off my cheekbones.

So everyone knows I'm cut of the cheeks.

No, because it felt disingenuous for us to be like, yeah,

who would watch Arcane and then play league?

That's crazy.

When so many people know for a fact that just last week, I was like,

me, I guess.

But points in the mirror.

Did you play it because you never played it before?

Or because of Arcane?

Or because you see a lot of people playing it and you were like, oh, maybe I should check it out.

Like, did Arcane directly lead you there?

I think so, because my FYP is very arcane pilled right now and

I have time out

real quick time out

what are you watching that all of your stuff is arcane what are you into like what about arcane got you that you're like I need to know more the the like at home just

editors that that make like like fan vids oh no have gone ballistic with arcane and anytime they pop up i'm like i have to watch the whole thing like like they are popping off so hard

the music is amazing people are really like fan vids i feel like are are having a heyday right now and it's literally just arcane so so let me guess let me guess let me guess yes real quick yeah

even though arcane

only really gave us one relationship

what the fan universe is about is one,

don't spoil anything.

One,

two, two characters in an alternate timeline in love.

Two,

two men who are just very good friends, also in love.

And

you don't have to explain it to me.

Like, I see through this.

I know how the internet works.

They're going to be like,

they showed kindness to each other.

No.

So what it is.

Ready?

Ready what it is?

They're banging.

Ready for what it is?

It's people choosing really high-octane music and then taking every clip where people reload guns, shoot guns, punch people, and timing it out with the music and then putting like

word overlays on it of the lyrics.

Fucking crazy.

It's so good.

They're so good at it.

Like, how do you have the time?

It's crazy.

I must stress.

Yeah.

That's some 2001 bullshit bullshit right there.

That's Jesse Cox on AMV doing stuff.

That's.

I know.

Okay.

Okay, young kids.

Get it?

I appreciate that.

Modern AMVs.

It's great.

I'll send you some if you want, if you're not too busy watching the weird shit Crendor sends you.

Um, I am.

And it's always like an old man at McDonald's being like,

I want four burgies.

And they're like, okay, well, what kind of burgers?

Like, four

burgers.

And they're like, okay, but I need to know what kind you want.

There's many to choose from.

And he's like, in my day, there was burgies and cheeseburgers.

And I want burgies.

And they're like, sir, I need you to place an order.

Do you want normal hamburgers?

And he's like,

times have changed.

Like, whoa, what is this video?

Grendor's like, I found this and it made me think of you.

I'm like, in what way?

What do you mean?

I would love a bergie.

I also would love a bergie, a weird old man.

He is very weird.

Give me a bergie, dude.

It's the same guy who does the ramen noodles, Roman numerals.

Ramen noodles.

He has a whole video where he just says that over and over again.

And Crendor said it to me, like, this guy's awesome.

Like, what do you mean?

Ramen

noodles,

Roman numerals.

You know, I just feel like we shouldn't have given the internet to everyone, you know?

Like, not everyone needed to be on the internet.

You think Crendor should be assessed and then have certain social media taken away from him?

Just maybe.

Maybe some people are not ready for prime time, is all I'm saying.

Like, maybe we shouldn't have given the internet to everyone.

That's fair.

Yeah.

Well, I don't remember what else we were going to say, but it doesn't matter.

Yeah, it's our show.

We can say whatever we want.

It's our show, and we'll cry if we want to.

I do not intend to cry.

Jesse Jackson.

Jesse Jackson multiply.

Whoa.

I hope that.

Ooh, let's see what else I can do with this.

Here we go.

I hope you enjoy the visual goofs,

audio listeners.

Hopefully, viewers.

Yo, you became like

you're going to cast an ice spell on me.

I'm one of the ice climbers.

Yeah, but like, well, do it while riding a walrus.

Okay.

Yeah, you're like a Warhammer character.

Elsa Korkorov.

And you are, you are in the frozen north and you ride a polar bear.

Okay.

And you cast ice spells.

Right.

And

that's, and that

you also have a Russian accent.

Okay.

Oh, duh.

And you're married to the Archduke Boris.

I can't remember what your first, your second name,

Karkolov.

And you live in the town of Frostmire.

And those damn chaos dwarves will not leave you alone.

This all is so cold because of these damn chaos dwarves.

They do not leave us us alone.

Nice, nice.

See?

Warhammer.

I only wish to be staying home and

to pickle onions

or something.

This is terrible.

We have no onions.

No fresh onions.

No onions.

There is no sun.

All year round is only pickled onions.

In fact, all food here is pickled.

It's what the Frostmeyer is known for.

Pickle this, pickle that.

Pickle her?

Pickle him.

Yes, everything.

My first wife was a pickle.

What else are we supposed to do with all of these dead bodies?

Waste not?

We pickle and eat.

Let me tell you, nothing tastes better than pickled cousin.

It's delicious.

So good.

Our town clearly fell to chaos.

We won't admit it though.

Right, right.

We like, will not.

Yeah.

Like, come in, come in.

We eat our friends.

Do not worry.

There's no chaos.

No chaos here.

No, we are not hungry.

All of us.

We have eaten so much.

We are always full tummies

because of all of the dead bodies.

Right, right.

It's crazy.

We have bodies keep piling up.

I don't know how it gets there.

How you do?

What do you do, buddy?

Where do you come from?

You crazy.

so what what choice we have but eat

you mean to bury ground so hard is frozen mire we can't look it's fine so true though so true i'm not digging in that shit it would never never dig and if we are already going to be with setting them on fire We might as well

before they before they become nothing, we eat.

Is

barbecue.

Yes.

Good old

Imperial barbecue.

Nothing wrong here.

I love the, I love the idea of a city that is fully corrupted, like the most evil, chaotic city in the world, but it just looks totally normal and everyone's like totally oblivious to the fact of how truly corrupt they are.

Oh, that's a, that's a, that's a Witcher 4 story.

Is you show up in a town and you're like, this seems nice.

Nope.

No, no.

It's not.

Actually, that's every town in Witcher.

You show up in a town, you think it's nice.

It's not.

Yeah, should we talk about like,

I guess we sort of, we basically talked about what everybody won.

You want to talk about like reveals,

world trailers, etc.

We did get Witcher 4.

I was so excited to see Siri.

That was very nice.

The minute I saw that there was like one-third of a boob on screen, I was like, this is CD Project.

I was like, there's only one company that would be like, the first reveal we're going to have for you, the first image is going to be like half a boob.

I'm like,

I appreciate you.

I love you.

Since I looked up the trailers after the fact, I knew what all of them were when I was watching them, but the very beginning of that trailer is a barrel bath.

And I was like,

tracks.

Yeah.

they have to always have a bath there always has to be a big a big barrel this time it was for yeah not great reasons but you know yeah

I'm very interested in where they're gonna go with the story what it's gonna be obviously it's gonna be a Siri based story and I think it's pretty cool it seems like the normal way to go they'll probably do like a this is Geralt's canonical end which negates my canonical end from Witcher 3, which is Geralt ends up with no woman because all the witches are terrible, and he and Siri travel the world murdering monsters for the end of their days.

That was my ending, and I was pleased with it because I was like, I think all the witches are bad people.

So I was fine.

So he could just lock in and be a dad forever.

Yeah, I feel like they're going to be like, and then he and Yennefer.

Like, if you find him in game, he's going to be like, hey.

I set him down.

I'm not fucked up with this witch.

Don't even worry about it.

Which is fine.

Like, all right, I'll take it.

It's okay.

But I like my ending better.

It was good.

Plus, I got to watch both Tris and Yen be like, Geralt, you're a pervert.

And I was like, yeah.

And then they tied me to a bed and left me.

And I was like, I'm fine with this.

I'm fine with this.

I'm all right.

It's okay.

Yeah.

And then I was pleased that it was like, because Geralt didn't settle down.

He and Siri went off and had many adventures.

And it makes sense to me because then there's two expansions after that i was like i would feel weird if i was like and then yen and geralt settled down but first he went to witcher italy and shacked up with a bunch of italians like okay

all right

okay yeah doesn't make any sense to me but well we don't know i don't right we don't know nothing confirmed about what geralt's doing

so i that was cool.

I was very excited.

Immediately, immediately after the trailer, I was like tweeting everyone at CDB like, yo, if you need a guy who's like villager number four, whose dick's on fire, I'm your man.

I will do it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If you need somebody to make some fart noises in a microphone, you know who to call.

I got this.

We are professional goofballs and we will

turn.

We'll do it again.

We will be back.

Just say the word.

Yeah.

So that's a whole thing.

And we also got

like a bunch of things that I think like the big, the big reveal that I think they were saving for the end, of course, was there's a new Okami coming.

It was nothing more than a, hey, Okami is coming.

But that's neat.

That's cool.

Everyone loves Okami.

Very excited about that.

But again, it was just like

a teaser.

Honestly, that was a lot of it.

There were a lot of like, here's a cinematic of a cool thing that will eventually come, which is fine.

I don't expect like the best reveals at the TGA.

What I expect is to see something like, ooh,

I can't wait for that.

And then next summer, we'll get some real stuff.

But that was neat.

Yeah.

What was the other, I think the other one that happened like closer to the end was Intergalactic?

What was that called?

The space bounty hunter one.

Oh, the one that

the one with the with the with the yes the naughty dog one.

Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah.

Um that one, yeah, Intergalactic the Heretic, which is like a wild title.

I don't know what that means.

It was hilarious that when the minute that trailer started, I like had a naughty dog vibe and all i could think of is like i'm gonna avoid the parts of the internet that are talking about this game because i imagine it is wild over there yeah it's also interesting that um

there seemed to be like a lot of i i don't know if it was a choice of

this is a corporatized future you know what i mean like i don't know if that's they're trying to go all of the branding everywhere but there was so much branding in that thing and i mean the ship had a porsche logo and i was like i know okay which i kind of loved loved.

Yeah, I couldn't tell if that was

one of those things where it's the future, and they're being real about what the future would be, and it's like a corporatized, like, you know, Sony would still exist kind of vibe.

Sure.

Or if it was like, yo, we needed money to make this game, so we've just put logos in it.

Like, I don't know.

It could be both, honestly.

They could have said, like.

What do we think the future looks like?

Well, there would definitely still be like logos and brands and things and decided to see what would happen if they tried selling like space in the game.

Right.

It had the same vibe as when Saturday Night Live does a skit that is based around like a brand, but they like roast the brand, but it's clear that the brand paid for that moment.

It has the same vibe where it's like, all right, whatever.

I'm totally down to play something new and weird and fun, like a new

IP from them.

All right, cool.

Let's see it.

It was funny.

I was watching people laugh at the fact that they haven't released a new IP in a while.

And then they did.

And so I'm like, okay,

they're giving you what you want.

Yeah.

So let's see what it's like.

For sure.

Yeah.

I'm sure it's going to be great.

They have a great track record.

So with that said, I have no idea what the game actually is.

Right.

Because it was just a tease.

But the entire time I was like, so what, what am I?

What am I doing in this game?

Besides, like, talking shit and hunting down

on Johnny.

like what am I like?

What am I doing?

Yeah, because it doesn't necessarily just because we saw, you know, like a third-person action sequence like right at the end there,

it doesn't give us an idea of what the gameplay loop is like or

anything like that.

So

at this point, we've had plenty of games that look like that, but are roguelites or are open world or are, you know, I assume that there's going to be some exploration aspects to it because they're trying to create all this intrigue around like this moon, right?

Yeah, um, but who knows?

Maybe not.

I mean, it, it,

it looks like they're spending a lot of money on it,

which

could be good, or it could be like, why did we spend so much money on this?

I don't know.

Again, there's

it sucks, but you have to consider like

audience reception on things and what people are going to think of stuff.

And

like, not, it's, uh, it's so weird that a company that has created so many great games, it feels like on the internet is starting from a negative.

Does that make sense?

Yeah.

Where there, like, people,

and it's not everyone, but there's just people on the internet who are just like, I don't like night, I hate night dog.

Sure.

I hate them.

And so, like, if you're starting from that position, it's an uphill battle when it comes to discourse on the internet.

So, like, I don't know how, thank God it's not my job to figure that out.

Like, I don't know how you battle that.

I don't know how you get out of that hole.

I couldn't even tell you.

But they, like, did what people wanted.

So

I hope that, uh, I hope it's good.

And I hope it starts something new and fun.

We'll see.

But, like, I couldn't tell if that was going to end up being an ace combat style game or if it was going to be like an Uncharted-y game.

Or I, like, I couldn't tell what it was going to be.

But I guess it's going be like is I would love if there was little flying segments, but I don't I have no clue.

We'll see,

yeah, but I was like, all right, I'm down.

We also had the new game from the it takes two devs, yes, split split world.

No,

yes, um,

it's uh, a split narrative, something like that.

That game is

split fiction

fiction.

There we go.

That's what it is.

Uh, well, I mean, we were right, we were there.

It looks like a more expensive co-op version of

my brain.

We both played this game.

Bookwalker.

What are...

Book Walker.

The Book Walker, Thief of Tales.

Did you not play this?

Book Walker is...

like such a good game.

Book Walker is...

Yes.

Yes, I did play this game.

It feels like that.

We're going into books.

We're doing stuff with narratives.

You know,

I'm in here and I'm changing the story, but like I'm living through this game.

Yeah, it has the same vibe.

I'm here for it.

I think it'll be very cute.

They've got a great track record of co-op games.

So I don't expect anything but a fun time.

Yeah.

Like, I know it'll be a good game.

Whether it'll be

an amazing game, I don't know.

But will it be good?

Yes.

Oh, I fully believe that.

So when I saw the trailer, I was like, this will be fun.

I can't wait till at the very end where they're like, only one of you can be the author.

And then you have to like beat up your friend.

There's going to be some bullshit like that.

It's like, okay.

All right.

Yeah, I loved It Takes 2.

I thought it was so innovative as like a co-op game.

An amazing game.

Yeah.

They do really good stuff over there, especially.

And I'm glad they've, like, we talked about this before, when you have a studio and the studio nails something so well, and then their next game is not the thing they just nailed.

And you're like, What's your thought process here?

Why not stick with what you clearly are good at?

You've made a team that's good at this thing, and I love they're like, No, co-op fun adventures that you can play on your couch or your computer or wherever.

That's what we do, and we're gonna keep doing it well.

And I'm like,

Yeah, bravo, good work.

Yeah, I guess you know, we're not in that position of having that sort of pressure one way or the other.

But I'm sure, yeah, that it's really difficult to figure out where, where's the line of

doing what we already know how to do and also

adding quality of life, adding new things that

add to the experience and elevate what we did before

without people being like, it's too different.

stick to what you know you know yeah so i mean i also like that speaking of singing what you know yosef ferris continues to be like i'm gonna swear every time i'm up on stage this is who i am this is i this is the persona i've crafted i'm going to shout out my children and then in front of everyone be like i have a very hot wife Like

the entire time I was like, I love this man.

This guy has just the right amount of like ridiculous ego to be like, I'm going to start making amazing games.

I'm like, yes, you are.

You know what, buddy?

Go do that.

Well, you know what?

Live your best life.

And what's what's I think the reason why it's I can tolerate that when other people who very clearly have like a big ego are just unbearable is because he then retreats back to anonymity.

He'll come out once, twice a year, talk a mean mean game and be like, we're going to be the best in the world, and then vanish until the next time.

And you're like, yeah, you know what?

In small doses, this is beautiful.

I love this.

You're great.

Just shows up is a hardcore wife guy, talks himself up a bunch, dabs, and then

dips.

And you're like, yeah, all right.

Yeah.

And then he backs it up with some, like a dope ass game, and you're like, okay,

nice.

It's great.

You know,

chat already mentioning the fact that Randy Pitchfor was there, and it was the exact opposite response from people, which, again, I think goes back to delivering on things.

And like,

it's, it's just the way in business, you know what I mean?

Like, you can be like an egotist full of yourself if you deliver.

Right.

But if you don't deliver and you keep being that way, people are going to be like,

People look annoyed every time they see you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's hard.

It was,

you know, I have no problem with it.

I was like, okay.

Like, in theory, I really want to love Borderlands, and I always have.

And when I play with friends, I'm like, well, that was fun.

Yeah.

But the bullet sponge, pick up 50,000 different weapons, hoping one is

like

just a little bit better than the other one you just had.

Yeah.

It's never done it for me.

It just never has.

And it makes me so upset because, like, in theory, the goofiness of the the game, the way it plays, like the Tiny Tina D D thing, like, that was lovely.

But it's just, I can't.

I like really want to, because you know me, I'm a loot guy.

I love loot.

Yeah.

And that's all that game is.

But the loot is like,

you got a weapon, and it's the same weapon you had, but it does fire now and is 0.3% less damage, but 0.6% more fire damage.

So if you do the ratio of the quantitative easing of the, i'm like yeah

yeah i just can't i totally agree with you i love borderlands games i was really surprised that the trailer was not quite so goofy they went more serious with the trailer while still like obviously showcasing their classic aesthetic and all of that um and making a loot goof in there but i was like i'm hoping that this means that they're going to make a game that isn't quite so much of just a meme game you know and does lean more into

like the universe that they've already had plenty of time to construct and all of that.

Sure, sure.

But yes, there is a point in every Borderlands game where I just don't bother picking up loot anymore.

Unless it is like

the most

unique color.

If it's a color I've never seen before, I'll be like, oh, I'm picking that up.

Other than that, yeah.

It's like, what's the point?

Why do this?

I'll just cry because it's going to be like, it's a better gun, but it's like the shittiest gun in the game.

You know what I mean?

Like, there's always that one gun that, yo, it'll do more damage, but it fires one shot every 10 minutes.

And you're like, what's the point?

Why don't you give this to me?

Yeah, I don't.

It's weird that

the best way I can think about this, and it's going to be...

I guess you would have to have played these games, but I know that if you watched Crendor and I play them, you kind of know what I'm going to talk about here.

It reminds me of Saints Row.

Saints Row 1 and 2 were games that were trying to be GTA, and they were not.

And so Saints Row 3 comes out and they're like, we're going to be silly and fun and try something new.

And I love Saints Row 3.

It might be one of my favorite games of all time.

It is so fun and goofy and wild.

One of my best

experiences in a long time.

Then they made more Saints Row and it was like

we're going to do a sci-fi thing, and it's going to be in the Matrix.

But what they started doing is instead of driving, you could fly and you're a superhero.

And it was all over the place, and it was wacky and weird and fun.

I still enjoyed, but it wasn't Saints Row anymore.

It was like some weird other thing.

And it was very clear that I was one of the few people that enjoyed that because

it didn't get as many people playing.

And

then after that was done, they were like, well, we gotta, we gotta fix this.

People aren't playing.

Let's make a serious Saints row.

And then that came out, and nobody gave a shit.

Oh, no.

And I wonder if that's like

when it comes to Borderlands, Borderlands one and two are fine games, right?

I'm not into the Borderlands like grind, but they're fine games.

Borderlands three was like, We're gonna go fool goofy because we know you guys liked the goofs in Borderlands 2.

And then it's like,

okay,

well,

cool.

So now to come out with a serious trailer, I'm worried their course correction is

too extreme.

And then the people that like the comedy won't play.

And the people that are just

bored of

Saints Row.

Yeah, Board of Borderlands won't play.

And so no one's going to play.

And then you'll just be like, well, why did we do any of this?

So I don't know.

Hmm.

Hopefully it's fine.

I mean, I have no, like, I don't want anyone to fail.

I hope it does well.

Of course.

But also, Borderlands isn't a Jesse game, right?

Like, it's not a game.

So, like,

what do I truly know about the Borderlands community?

Like, I just,

you know, it's not my community.

I don't fit in there at all because I'm not like.

I got it.

Is it better with more acid damage or more ice damage?

And is it possible to mix both?

And if I do mix both, what percentage of an increase in damage overall with my current fire rate?

Would I?

I just can't.

Meanwhile, I'm spending 20 minutes on a boss because my weapon is not as good, but I like it because it shoots better.

You know, and I'm like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

This boss won't die.

And they're like, we need a better gun.

I'm like, but I like the gun I have.

I like this gun.

Oh, my God.

That's my every game that's like.

about upgrading weapons, trading in for new weapons.

I've run into this issue, I feel like currently with Warframe, where

I am able to build other weapons.

I could swap to other things.

I could take the time to like build technically better guns and stuff, but I'm so comfortable with the weapons I have and I'm getting the job done.

So I'm like, I just don't, I just, I don't want to.

I like this.

I like how this feels.

I don't want to, you know?

I mean, this is also why I'm not playing, like, even though Warframe 99 looked cool as hell, I don't know that I'd play that because I'm like,

I'm not, I just, even Path of Exile 2, I love Path of Path of XL 2 is super fun, but the more I play, the more I'm like, oh no, I'm just, I'd just be grinding for gear,

which is the point, right?

But mentally, I'm like,

already fatigued by the idea.

I'm just like, oh, I don't like this.

But I mean, that's what those games are.

And if you enjoy that stuff, which I know Crendor is an example, totally does, then I'm glad there's so many of those that exist.

Yeah.

I was talking with somebody about 1999, Warframe 1999, and describing where I was currently in the game.

And they were like, okay, you have like

20 to 30 hours of game to do before

you would be able to do 1999 without spoiling yourself on stuff.

And I was like,

really?

So much.

But that's okay.

Yeah.

I'm curious to see how that does

because it seemed, I mean, again, I don't know how story-based Warframe is, but it seems like a story story.

I just hit, for any, any people who play Warframe, I literally yesterday did The Second Dream, which is the questline that is considered to be the start of plot.

It's when the like

real story starts, right?

Yeah,

the story gets gets thick.

Like you get invested in what all of these random characters are doing, right?

And so it doesn't feel like I can pull a Sam and just like spam through the cutscenes and ignore what everybody's talking about because I want to know what people are doing, you know?

Right.

That's cool.

I did not know that.

I was not aware.

Everything I've seen has been probably then

the beginning of the game.

At least according to you, it seems like it's like, just go do stuff and then we'll give you a story later.

Yeah, I would actually love to really quickly give a shout out to the Warframe community because I've streamed all of it and

they have a very staunch policy among themselves of not spoiling what happens in the second dream when you hit that quest.

And I literally had no idea what was going to happen.

No one spoiled a single bit of it for me.

I had no clue.

And I was so delighted doing that quest.

I was gasping.

I was gusping.

It was great.

It was so much fun.

I was gusping, dude.

Yeah.

And

I think the community is just so lovely to new players

and really want to like preserve their experience.

Like if you commit to like playing the game and you get that far, they really want to make sure that you get to experience it like purely.

And I got to, and it was great.

And I'm delighted.

So.

That's very cute.

It has the same vibe as the Final Fantasy XIV kids.

Yes.

Where if you have the patience for the beginning of that, then like we're not going to spoil the rest for you.

So I think that's cute.

Yeah.

I feel like the most that anybody says is like, oh, when you get to this point in the story, it's, you're going to have a great time.

Right.

And

beyond that, yeah, I feel like people don't really spoil stuff.

It's every conversation I've had with anyone about One Piece ever.

They're like, dude, like in the beginning, you're not going to like it.

But like, like, when you get, like, when you get to a certain point, you're going to be like, oh my God, this is the best show that ever existed.

I'm like, how long is that?

Like, 20 to 30 hours.

I'm like, oh, okay.

All right.

Then,

cool.

And I, and it's funny because I laugh at that, but at the same time, again, I'm that dude who's like, you definitely should play Final Fantasy 14.

It's great.

It's going to take you like one full story arc, and it'll be like 50 hours of your life before it gets really, really good.

But like, when it gets good, oh my God, it's the best.

Honestly,

I think the thing that works against you the most with both One Piece and Final Fantasy is the fan artists.

It is so.

If you're on social media, it is so difficult to avoid pictures of XYZ characters, pictures of XYZ characters in XYZ forms.

And you're like, I've never seen that before, right?

Like, it's so hard to avoid that shit.

Meanwhile,

without like whitelisting stuff.

The only Warframe fan art I see is like

something that I don't know has a face, but has very articulated boobs and butt.

That is every bit of fan art I see for Warframe.

Like perfectly drawn boobs and butt, and then something that looks like it maybe has a face.

I'm like,

okay, all right, warframe.

There are specific frames that are like

ass, ass, ass frames.

Yeah, 100%.

The frame that I'm using right now summons three like

tiny, tiny robots, basically.

They basically look like small warframes.

And so I've been getting to do like

exhausted single dad RP.

And I just summon them and they kill everybody for me.

And I'm like, have fun, girls.

I'm really proud of you

it's very cute it's great it's fun

yeah that's

very cute I love that um

what what else did we get um Outer Worlds Outer Worlds 2 looks very fun but but by the way I realize so have you watched Secret Level yet no

Secret Level is the Amazon anthology series that is very similar to what was that Love Love, Death, and Robots?

Oh, okay.

And it's an anthology series that each episode is a, think of it like a cinematic for a video game.

So

one episode, for example, is Warhammer 40k.

And it is

a, I would say, a backdoor pilot for the concept of Titus.

Okay, interesting.

If you've never heard of Titus as a character before, it's kind of like a backdoor pilot for that.

And it is one of the cool.

It is

awesome.

I love that episode.

It's cool as hell.

Nasty.

It does.

Like, I don't want to spoil things, obviously, but you know how most Warhammer 40K

media for new people is like, you're a cool human and you're killing Insert Orc or some Xenos or whatever, right?

Right.

This one, they were like, throw him in the deep end.

Oh my god, was it awesome?

I was like, yo, let's go.

That slapped.

They also have one that's for the game New World.

Dukes, it might be the funniest thing I've seen in a while.

It is like the biggest roast of an MMO ever starring Arnold Schwarzenegger.

And I must stress this to you.

It is one like.

You know how in an MMO, when you die, you just respawn?

Imagine that, but it's Arnold Schwarzenegger playing a complete idiot.

It's so funny.

I was like, yo, this is awesome.

There's many of them.

Many of them are very, very good.

Some of them I was like, okay, all right.

You know, like all anthologies.

But

what they had in it is all

the things they had that seemed weird to me that I was like, huh, was

that

a great example?

The Pac-Man episode.

I didn't understand what the hell the Pac-Man episode was about.

I was like, well, that doesn't make any sense.

What's that about?

Literally, it is a trailer for the new Pac-Man game we just got.

Oh, okay.

The one that is like...

It's Pac-Man, but you're like doing a platformer where you're murdering people and you have a little orb that follows you and it goes like

That's the episode and i was like what the hell is this pac-man like i guess pac-man's like it's kind of a weird take on pac-man that's interesting but it's a thing now and that's the case i think with a lot of the episodes it was a teaser for something that we got in this show hmm interesting and so i was like oh damn so If you have questions about some of the things you saw, it's Secret Level has it, has answers, which is crazy to me.

Did not expect that.

So when the minute I saw the beginning of the Pac-Man trailer at the Game Awards, I was like,

is this the secret level Pac-Man?

And it was.

I was blown away.

I was like, oh, so that wasn't just a weird thing they did that was, and the best part is, is there was a Pac-Man trailer.

It wasn't called Pac-Man.

It was something else.

But literally in the logo is the Pac-Man mouth.

And it's like a different, it's a Metroidvania.

Like a violent Metroidvania, but has like Pac-Man Pac-Man undertones.

How weird, yeah, yeah.

And again, go watch the Secret Level episode, and it straight up will be like,

This is what this is now, right?

I was very, I was like, yo, okay, let's go.

So, and I think that was pretty cool.

Interesting, you know,

and so, and so, and, and

try to think of all the, let's see, hold on, let me, let me look this up for you.

Um, Secret Level is on Amazon, it's uh, it's the new show.

The first half is already out, and the second half, I think, is next week.

But

yeah, the episodes that are available right now are a Dungeons and Dragons episode, a Sifu episode, an episode for New Worlds, hilarious, an Unreal Tournament episode, a Warhammer 40K episode, Pac-Man,

Crossfire.

Armored Core, which

love that.

And because you talked about Outer Worlds, there's an Outer Worlds episode.

And I thought, I was curious.

Yeah, and I and I thought, oh, interesting, they're doing an Outer Worlds thing.

Like, that's cool.

And then they were like, Outer Worlds 2 is coming.

I was like, ah, it's all coming together.

So

that made perfect sense.

Also, there's a Mega Man episode.

There's an episode for Exodus, an episode for Spelunky, an episode for Honor of Kings, and an episode for Playtime.

Oh my gosh, there's so many.

And that's just batch one of the things.

And that's just batch one.

Yeah.

Interesting.

I went to an event because, you know, it's awards week, and I got to see some of the stuff from next,

the next time, the next release.

So I got to see a bunch of different ones.

And

yeah, people in chat are talking about the Concord.

I got to watch the Concorde episode.

Honestly,

real talk.

Again, I think Concord is a concept.

Fun.

As a 5v5 PvP shooter, that's the stupidest thing they could have ever made.

I don't understand.

But the Concorde episode, literally, you're like, yeah,

I could have gotten into this.

It's like a story.

But

yeah, so it's very cool.

But

yeah,

Outer Worlds looked fun.

But the game is fun.

Like, the first game was a joy.

Did you ever play it?

No.

I played it.

And

let me tell you what my character's journey was.

Okay.

I started in an office and my boss was like, you got to go do this shit for me.

And I pulled out a gun and I shot him in the face and said, no, I don't.

And then I ransacked his office, found a key, opened a secret door, got a bunch of like early best weapons in the game, and then brutalized the galaxy.

While I think your first companion's Ashley Birch,

the entire time she was like, I don't want to be here.

You're a monster.

And I was like, yeah.

And I just murdered people.

And the game was like, you win.

I was like, yeah, I did.

Yeah, I did.

It was great.

Like, it, the, the fact that it gave me the freedom to just reject everyone and be like the worst guy ever.

That was cool.

That was awesome.

Yeah.

What is the pitch of Outer Worlds?

Um, if you were to like describe

what it is, imagine it's an RPG, Yeah.

A space-based,

choice-driven RPG

with the sensibilities of

Bioshock

and

God.

Like, I'm trying to think of the best.

Like, it has, yeah, Fallout New Vegas in space is very, that's actually a very good way of putting it.

That's a very,

that's a, yeah.

It has like a Bioshock attitude to it.

Like, um

in style I think is the right way like there's a style to it that feels like um

Like yeah capitalism satire is a very good way of putting it.

Okay, like yeah, like final stage space capitalism where even if you watch like a great example and I think they did this really well the outer worlds secret lab episode

is all about a guy pining for a girl, except the girl works at one of the many dystopian, you know, companies.

And And so he'll do anything to see her again, including being a test subject.

And that's the pitch for the episode.

Okay.

And just imagine a guy going through it to just see a girl again.

And that's, and, and it isn't, like, it's played for laughs because it's so sad.

You know what I mean?

Like, it is a universe where every, like, every mission you go on is one of the most depressing things in the world, but is played for a laugh.

Right.

Okay.

And so, you know, early on, you'll end up in a, I'm trying to remember, like, you end up on a planet where

they're running some tests on local animals, and you can either side with the company running the tests, or you can side with this liberation force, like that kind of thing.

And so, it's, it's that vibe of the game.

It's also going to take you very, very, very long to play, unless you play the Jesse Cox way, which is you have a quest for me, pop, moving on.

That was great.

Oh my goodness.

I love that.

I think the biggest problem for Outer Worlds is that it came out the exact same time.

I think within a month.

I'd have to go look up the exact time, but it came out at the same time as Outer Wilds.

I got the two games mixed up a bunch, and I think a lot of people did.

Yep.

Yep.

I think it affected both games because no one knew which was which.

Yeah.

And if you go back and look at footage at the time, people will be talking about one of them and say the other name.

Right.

Yeah.

Well, hopefully,

hopefully this one gets a, some good treatment.

Yep.

I'm, uh, I'm, I'm very excited.

Again, had a blast with the first one.

I'm gonna, I, I, when, I love the idea.

This goes back to like Baldur's Gate 3 or like, you know, playing Deus Ex, any game where the devs say, there's many options.

You could do this.

I'll be like, okay, I will push that.

Like, if you're telling me that I have the option to, like, you know, when we were in Belgium and they were like, right.

For Baldur's Gate 3, you can do anything.

I was like, could I be a bad guy who wants to be a good guy?

And they were like, I don't know, can you?

And then it was in the game and I was like, bro, yes.

That's what I hope for this is that they continue where if I want to be a giant space asshole, I can be that.

And so I'm hoping that we get that again because that's one of the things I loved about the first game is, and the fact that characters, your companions who are the people who are like, I trust you the most, they were like, are you holding me hostage on this ship?

Can I leave?

And I was like, no, you can't leave.

I'm crazy.

It was great.

Yeah.

Oh, goodness.

Hoping for good stuff.

We also got a new Helldivers 2 update, which

we have our third front open.

Looked great.

Very excited about that.

I'm happy they won some awards

because, again, being in the moment of Helldivers was just

like, it's hard.

It's hard to explain if you weren't there.

Like, that moment clearly passed.

It's just like, you know, a game again.

But there was a time where Helldivers was like...

Everyone was playing it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was like a wave of...

I don't even know, like, you had to be there for it.

Yeah.

And so that was really cool.

I was, I, being a part of that, getting to throw yourself at swarms of enemies and like die for your friends was great.

I was like, let's go.

Love that.

Yeah, it got a best ongoing game or something like that.

Yes, and it won another one as well.

But man,

what a time to play game.

So I'm happy it did that.

I'm happy they finally opened a new front.

That'll bring a lot of people back.

It made me immediately be like,

should I go play this tonight?

And I was like, No, I have to be up for Geekenders.

No, no, Jesse.

No.

But I really wanted to.

Yeah.

And

yeah, that's a nice feeling.

I mean, even if immediately afterwards, you're like, no, stop.

But it's nice to see a trailer or watch someone playing a game and be like, oh, this makes me want to play, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so that was great.

I um,

the best, the, I don't say best part, but one of the funniest parts of the the night is when the squid game game was announced.

And as they started bringing up the squid game people, all I could think about, it would be the best joke in the world if they were just like,

corporate executives, you have been selected for the squid game.

Only one of you will leave here tonight.

I would be like, yes, finally.

But they did do one funny call out, but it was like not funny in a way that literally was like sad funny.

They're like, all CEOs and studio heads your private booths for the the squid game will be available after the show and I was like oh right even in the squid game verse they get to watch people die for their entertainment I was like cool yeah cool um

I don't I don't understand They made Squid Game a game, but gave it like the goofy aesthetic of Fortnite.

Yes.

I do not understand.

I was like, I don't think this art style was the correct choice.

No, I don't.

I mean, going back to

what you expect studios to do, when we got the Sifu follow-up and it was a soccer game, Football, I was so weirded out because I was like, okay, I mean, it looks like a fine soccer game, but the entire time I watched the trailer, I expected people to break out into a fight.

I expected a dude to jump kick another dude because that's what I expect from that studio.

And instead they're like, no, dude, it's same, same assets, basically.

We're going to use the same style, same everything, but it's just like a really fun soccer game.

And I was like, okay, I'm not going to tell you not to make it, but I was like, when's a guy going to jump kick the goalie through the glass?

Right.

When's that happening?

And it didn't.

And I was like, okay.

I don't know.

Is this like,

this is like the DOA beach volleyball of the Sifu universe?

I mean,

DOA beach volleyball was like, look, we're going to try something different.

But really, it's not volleyball and it's not a fighting game.

It is a one-handed,

have a good time simulator.

They knew what they were doing.

They were like, the bathing suit that covers the least and have a great time.

Yep.

Yep.

They were like, crank jiggle physics up to 5,000%.

Things that jiggle should not jiggle, we're jiggling them.

Yep.

No.

Yeah, I fully expected it to be like, it's, you know, like, remember back in the day, there was a whole wave.

I don't know how much it was around the world, but at least here in the States, we got hit with a wave of sports games that were soccer-based, but also like

combat.

So there was a Mega Man.

Mega Man soccer is one of my favorite games.

I love that game where you play as Mega Man characters and you'd like blast soccer balls at each other.

Like that was cool as shit.

There were a lot of games like that.

Or yeah, cars.

They did it with cars.

When we had like basketball games, you'd be like, he's on fire, or a football game where you'd like knock a guy into the stands.

Those games were awesome.

Yeah.

And I thought they were bringing that back with this.

I thought we were getting soccer plus sifu.

Like, you're kicking a ball and then beating the crap out of a guy.

I was ready for it.

And it was like, no, no, no.

It's just soccer.

I was like, oh, I mean, it looks beautiful.

The art looks great.

The stadiums look cool.

But I kind of wanted it to be a fighting game too.

Yeah.

Yeah, I guess like a more extreme version of red card.

Did you ever play red card?

Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about.

Yeah, where it's like, yeah, you can be this is a soccer game and you can beat people up.

Yes,

oh my god, they could have called it Fifu.

That's hilarious.

Yeah,

Sam made a tweet saying it should be called Fifu.

So that's really good.

That's really good.

Nice, Sam.

That's very funny.

I um,

yeah, I don't, I don't know.

It looked cool, but it wasn't, you you know, I expected something wild.

We also got,

speaking of the New World Arnold Schwarzenegger episode of Secret Level, we got first berserker Kazan, which made me laugh the entire time because it just reminded me of the Secret Level episode of Arnold Schwarzenegger because it seemed he was a big muscle-bound berserker dude.

And the entire time he was like, Aerstrom has like, what is this?

Aerstrom rises again.

It was like, just,

but it it was a different thing entirely and um it looked cool that i'm sure that would be a fun game to play but it was ruined by the fact that literally a day before i'd watched arnold swarzenegger do the exact same thing and that's all i could think about was just inserting schwarzenegger's voice into that trailer That's, I want to, if I had the time, I would do that.

I would take the secret level episode and that trailer and just combine them.

Because

I have a weird pet peeve.

Can I tell you what it is?

Of course.

Yes.

It's really,

really gory graphics

where the character who is getting all gored up and engaging with the gore and is maybe the reason for the gore

has beautiful flowing hair that is not fucked up whatsoever.

I don't know why it bothers me so much, but I'm like, that hair is the cleanest thing in the cinematic.

It's white.

How is it not gunked up?

You would be thoroughly upset with Dragon Age Velga.

It has some of the best looking hair I've seen in a game in a while.

It's incredible looking.

But the rest of you can be covered in viscera and your hair is flowing.

You look gorgeous.

The dude in First Berserker has a beautiful long blonde ponytail and he is getting so messy.

And his hair is like, whoosh, whoosh, yes, just beautiful, flowing in the wind.

The funniest thing is, again,

he'd get his ass kicked and beat up, and then he'd rise again.

And I was like, oh, that's cool.

But dudes, all I could hear was, and yet Aelstrom lives again.

I was like, Schwarzenegger, no.

Stop this.

Stop.

Stop it.

You can't stop me.

I leave again.

Oh, my goodness.

I couldn't.

It ruined it for me.

I'm sure that trailer was a fine trailer, but I spent the entire time thinking about Arnold Swordsgeer.

It just ruined the whole moment for me.

Sort of similar vibes, but how did you feel about the Turok trailer?

Honestly,

within 0.2 seconds, I was was like, is this new Turok?

Obviously, we didn't see actually anything from the game, but like, that is the issue.

Yes, I am here for

new Turok.

Yes, 100%.

I hope it's good.

It seemed like they were doing a prequel.

I don't know.

I have no idea what this is.

Yeah, judging by the title, it was like Turok Origins, right?

Or something?

Yeah, I was like, okay.

Unless it's like the origins of a new, new characters.

I have no clue, but I loved, I loved the first Turok.

It's old, though.

So I don't know how much of that love is nostalgia.

You know what I mean?

Yes.

I'm in the same boat.

I played a lot of Turok, but when I was young,

I don't know.

It would be interesting to go back and play it again and see whether or not I get annoyed with it.

Yeah, there was gameplay.

I mean,

how much was real gameplay and how much was just in-engine stuff?

Like, I don't know.

We'll see.

I'm, I hope it's good.

I love Turok.

Again, loved Turok.

No clue what new Turok is, but

I'm here for it.

I'm here for it.

Yeah, saw that, freaked out, was very excited.

I think that's an

incredible IP to bring back, and I think we need more of that.

Yeah,

Shadow Labyrinth is the new Pac-Man game.

That's what that one's called.

Shadow Labyrinth.

That's so edgy.

Yeah.

I mean, go watch the secret level episode.

It's pretty edgy.

It's cool, but it's like

when the episode starts and it says,

Pac-Man, I was like,

oh, oh, it's not, we're doing edge.

We're not doing like, okay.

Okay.

But it's cool.

Like, it's not bad.

It's cool.

So, very excited.

Also,

new Ninja Gaiden, I was like, brother, what?

Are we doing?

And new Animusha, get out of here.

I was like, what is happening?

We're bringing back all the oldies.

Right.

I'm here for Onimusha.

I'm down, though.

Yeah.

Onimusha looks great.

I remember when Jean Renault was in Animusha 3, I think.

That was wild.

What a wild time to just be like, wait a minute.

Actors are in our video games now.

I think that might have been the first big.

Because that was when he was huge.

That was when he was like.

running around in every damn movie there ever was.

And then he just showed up in a video game.

And I was like,

they can do this?

Crazy.

Yeah, it looks beautiful.

That's another one where I was like, I think I'm seeing gameplay,

but it's sort of unclear if this is actual gameplay or not.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, that's that's the uh what I don't maybe I can look it up.

It's the game that was the um

by the same team that had done Iko and Shadow of Colossus, that new game where they're like all-in-engine gameplay footage.

And I was like, you just climbed the side of a thing and then flew up in the air.

And I don't know what this game is.

And it looks cool, but like

you saying this is all in-game does nothing for me because nothing happened.

I don't know what I saw.

I don't know what that was.

It looks cool.

And it had weird text and weird like

voiceover.

And I was like, cool, cool.

All things Jesse loves.

And then, oh, and that's why it made me even more upset because at the end, he was like, it's the untitled project.

I was like,

you can't be showing gameplay from a thing that doesn't even have a title yet.

That doesn't make sense.

But it looked cool, but I don't think, I don't think we're going to get it anytime soon, but it looked, it looked awesome.

I have no idea what was going on.

You were climbing a big mech thing, and you got inside the mech thing, then the mech thing's head came off.

And I was like, right,

cool, I'll play it.

But I played all the other games, love those other games, but I was just like,

okay, all right.

you know it's the same like

it roughly is the same vibe as cd project except cd project i think knows

that like witcher four isn't coming next year and probably not the year after that like it's a ways off but yeah they all they did was make a trailer saying we're making this game to get hype going so people know and i think

all it needs to be is intriguing right yeah yeah yeah

i'm intrigued by what you've done.

And so I totally, absolutely forgive the fact that I don't know what the shit I just looked at.

I'm like, you, you got me.

I don't know what that was, but you got me.

And CDP has like a very,

they're like, yeah, we'll get you.

But,

you know, get ready to wait a couple of years.

So.

Yeah.

Which I think I'm happy to say, and this might be a combination of a few things.

We have games coming out so rapidly and there's so much to play that I think people are actually more patient now than

even like a few years ago.

But also, another thing contributing to that, I think, is the just general realization of, wow, when we are patient and they really take their time, we get incredible games sometimes, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

But also, I mean,

we also get, you know, games that never come out, you know, so you end up with people being like, where's Silk Song?

So true, where is it?

You promised, and now it's not here.

Where is it?

And everyone's just kind of like,

They did, they did release information about it a while ago, and then it becomes it's been years and years and years.

And where is it?

And everyone's like, It's coming, it's coming.

Is it when?

Same thing.

And,

you know, I feel like

you walk a fine line between doing a, you know, like a cyberpunk where they release a trailer

seven years before the game actually releases,

and but it comes out and they get it, right?

And they don't show

like CDP is very good about being like, we made a cinematic and we made another cinematic, and then finally we're going to show you gameplay.

Doing the we're going to show you gameplay seven years in advance is like,

don't do that.

It gives people hope.

It gives people hope that the game is around the corner.

Right.

Rather than here's a trailer with the concept of what we're doing.

So Sam was sponsored to watch the game awards on stream.

And

I'm telling this story as like a secondhand

thing.

So I might get some of the details here wrong.

But it was a funny situation where he was sponsored by an unknown game studio.

So they said, here's a link to an overlay.

When the time is right, it's going to take over your OBS.

It's going to be like a whole screen thing that's going to happen and it'll reveal who it is that has sponsored you.

Oh, geez.

I would be scared.

Same.

I was like, what if this is like a studio I don't want to be associated with or like, you know, but

before you tell me who it is.

Yes.

I hope to God it's Infinity Nikki, but please continue.

Okay.

So

Sam was spitballing, trying to figure out, like, who would try to be this secretive about it?

Right.

And one of his guesses was maybe it's Silk Song because they have a, you know, they would have a reason to be like, oh,

was it the cat game?

It was payday.

Oh,

their new like future shooter

I guess so.

Den of Wolves.

Yes.

So it makes, like, in terms of the sponsor matching the person, it makes sense.

Sam's played every payday game a ton, right?

Sure, sure.

But I guess it didn't work properly.

And so

the payday thing happened in the game awards, and then they moved on to the next game.

And then the overlay triggered.

So it was covering up gameplay for a different

well

oh like I think the idea is fun I see I see what they were trying to do but

I think for it to accidentally cover up a different game's gameplay or trailer is like not great you know good idea poor execution i guess yeah it clearly has a weird kind of like well we want people to watch the video from our awards show, so we don't want to cover it up with overlay stuff, but we want to activate our overlay.

So we'll do it afterwards, but it like ignores the fact that there's other stuff happening afterwards, which is really funny.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It apparently covered up Genshin, people are saying.

I mean.

Okay.

Like, all right.

I don't know how big Sam's audience would be into Genshin anyway.

So

I don't feel like that was a total loss.

Yeah.

They do love a gotcha.

Dude, I still haven't played Infinity Nikki.

It's apparently so fun.

Everyone who has played it has told me it's awesome.

And I'm like,

in what way do you think it's awesome?

What about it?

And they're like, dude, it's just so much fun.

I'm like,

and I haven't played it yet, but supposedly, it's like a fantastic mix of just like a hyper-feminine game and also great mechanics.

Like the boss fights are really fun.

The combat is really fun.

But you also, if you want a dress-up game, it's a dress-up game, right?

Yeah.

So

I have a code for it.

I absolutely want to play it.

It does make me sad that there have been so many dudes like, I can't let the boys know I fuck with this game.

You know, just like, why not?

Own it.

It's a good game, apparently.

I generally think the idea of a hyper-feminine game is really cute, but I want the boss fights to be like

at the end

She hugged him and said it would be all right and he's good and life is fine and she

tucked him in

Put him to bed and the monster slept that night peacefully for the first time in years for he had finally known love and the touch of another human.

Like that's what I want I want that shit when it's just like really fucking wholesome and she's like i didn't want to have to beat your ass but i did apparently apparently it's like

actual like hard yeah yeah i hear it's i hear it's actually like really fun and there's a lot of stuff you can do and the whole dress up thing is i'm gonna i'm gonna be super real with you

the only people i hear talking about the dress up aspect are dudes i must stress this

The only people I've heard talk about like, yo, the dress up's awesome, dude, are

just men who are into the dressing up of Nikki.

And I think that is hilarious.

I love that.

I saw a person who, I guess, like, depending on what mechanic you're doing, sometimes your clothes will just switch to like show that you're using a different like ability or something.

And this person, their clothes switch, and they were like, oh,

like, so overwhelmed.

Like, he was just so happy.

Yes.

It's about to say, having played MMOS for years, there's one thing I understand more than anything.

Dudes love playing hot chicks and then dressing those hot chicks up.

I always play like the ugliest, worst character I can think of.

And then I'm like, why are all my friends like, my name's Babella Boobstorm, and I'm an elf.

And I'm like,

okay, cool.

It's my next DD character, Babella Boobstorm.

She's a very, very sexy barbarian.

Okay, got it.

And when she rages, she shouts, boobstorm.

Perfect.

Perfect.

I have no notes.

I will change nothing.

To be fair, Jesse, you played BG3 with a normal ass dude.

That's what I'm saying.

I wasn't, I'm not, I'm not like, oh yeah, I want to be Gringor, the stone dwarf.

Like, it's not something I do often.

I want to, instead, I'm just like, I'm just a cox i'm a man

i'm very boring at like role play games yo i'm playing me in this world

like okay

incredible yep yep uh

yeah um what else what else did we get trying to look through this there's a sonic racemire 2 sonic yeah

that game that that kind of looked like gen shin but wasn't genshin

There's a lot of them.

Be it Starrail or

Zen Zoneless Zen Zoner.

All sorts of different ones.

There's the new overcooked studio game, Stage Fright.

That looked very cool.

That does look very cute.

It looks like a another co-op game.

Yes, it looks like a solid Jesse Dodger game in that it has strong

Dead Space 3 vibes where I know that when we play

struggling and dying, you'll be like, these flowers are beautiful.

I'm like, no,

no, I'll be screaming.

Yeah, that looks very fun.

The Project Century, the like a dragon game that may not be like a dragon, that is like

in

early 20th century, I assume, Japan.

I can't remember what it was, that looks awesome.

I was like, yo, I love a game like this.

This is cool.

So that could be very, very fun.

But we only got really kind of like a tease.

I'm trying to think what else we got.

The co-op standalone Elden Ring game that I couldn't tell what it was.

It looked like it was going to be Elden Ring Fortnite, but then it...

became more Elden Ring Monster Hunter.

I don't know what that game is.

I'll be honest.

I have not a clue what it is, but it looked cool game of thrones game which looks like you just done extra in the last season

honestly

it's a weird time to to like do game of thrones content but i guess games take a while to make yeah the entire time i was like yo this kind of looks like shadow of mordor

but game of thrones that's cool i love that game this could be a ton of fun and then the entire time it was like Do you remember the final season of Game of Thrones?

One of the worst seasons of Timothy Thrones.

Every scene, I was like, oh, I remember this part of the show.

If they would have just said it on the wall, yes.

And not had anyone from the show there, it would have been great.

I would have been like, yes.

I would 100%

play

a game where you're just on the wall as part of the watch.

Yes.

They could have done.

They could have done so many cool things.

They could have had it be like,

you know, like just off the top of my head, it's hundreds of years before.

You're a dude on the wall.

yeah you have to deal with the north people and you have to deal with the politicking and all the shit but like you're going out you go on adventures but then you find something out there and you try to tell people they don't listen to you because no one's ever seen and you could do a story with that Yeah, and it doesn't have to be like

hints at what's going to happen in the show.

Yeah, yeah.

Plus, you could, it could sell not only the idea of Game of Thrones, but also House of the Dragon.

You could do all sorts of stuff.

Right.

And instead, it's just like, we have to go see Cersei.

It's like, fucking shit.

Okay, yeah, let's go there.

And we can remind me about how I loved Jamie Lannister as a character.

And then he completely betrayed any growth he had over the last seven seasons in a truly terrible choice.

Don't.

No, no.

I never thought I'd be more mad at the ending of a show than I was at the ending of Lost.

And yet here we are.

Yeah.

Here we are.

I'm like, which is.

It says a lot about

like Lost had a lot of cultural impact and then ended badly.

Yeah, same with this.

A lot of cultural impact and badly.

And it's just really upsetting to me that I'm like, couldn't we have nailed this?

Couldn't we?

Oh, well.

I don't know.

I think they're in,

it would be nice to point to the same issue for both, but unfortunately.

Totally different, yeah.

They're totally different situations.

One of them had source material up to a certain point, and then they just had to say, fuck it, and figure it out.

And the other one, I think they said, fuck it, we'll figure it out from the beginning.

From the very beginning, it worked for a while and then it didn't work anymore.

Yep.

Yep.

Yeah.

It's um, it's also why I appreciate when shows say,

we're gonna, the aim is three seasons.

Yes.

It's like, thank you.

All right, I like this.

Because yeah, lost had a problem where it was,

we don't, we're going to do a season two and we're going to start making shit up because we didn't plan.

And then Game of Thrones had, well, we know we're going to have a bunch of seasons because we have the source material.

but after that, we have no idea how long it's going to take us to finish telling the story.

So they can then say, yo, we want to make a Star Wars movie, so we're going to finish it right now.

And then not only do they screw up the Game of Thrones, they can't get their Star Wars movie because they screw up Game of Thrones so bad.

So.

Yeah.

Walking Dead also had like a long, slow death.

Yeah.

Where it had that huge cultural impact.

And then they just kept sort of betraying the viewers often enough that people just slowly trickled away.

Yep.

It's crazy.

I don't know why these shows that

get so big

can't stick the landing.

They never can.

Because they get so big.

Like at a certain point, it becomes out of their control.

It isn't about the show anymore.

It's about the fact that it makes a shit ton of money for the like the channel, corporation, whatever.

And then they're like, yeah, nice.

Bring in more cash.

Meanwhile, there are shows like

Spartacus that couldn't land the ending because the lead literally died while filming it.

So they tried to make another season with a different actor and it just wasn't the same.

Yeah.

And that sucked because I loved that first season of Spartacus is awesome.

That's cool as shit.

That's one of my favorite, like one seasons.

And then they managed to do a 0.5 season that was like a prequel because again, the lead actor died.

And then they somehow said, let's come back and do a final season with a different guy.

And it's like,

damn, that sucks.

That sucks.

Yeah.

It happens.

It happens in many ways, but

it's upsetting.

Yeah.

I'm trying to think if there's like any

shows in the last like

five, six, seven years that...

that have been like, man, everybody is talking about that show.

Everybody's watching that show.

But I don't think there really has been.

I think streaming.

Maybe.

I think streaming makes it so you have to have bought into the service and then watch the thing with everyone else.

Like, there's not, like, Arcane is popular in our circles.

Yeah, but it's not in your circle.

Arcane is not what we're talking about.

My mom is not going to watch Arcane.

Same with Fallout.

Yeah.

Like, succession

was popular,

but

I don't know if it was.

I didn't even know about succession until it was already like

going, you know?

Yeah, it's not like Sopranos level popularity.

Squid Game

3.

Yeah, but that also...

Am I wrong in remembering that it happened over COVID?

So maybe that was a fluke.

But I don't, but like, again, we'll find out.

Squid Game 2 is coming out.

But yeah, Squid Game probably, I think, will be the last one.

But it also happened when we were all trapped inside.

You know what I mean?

So, like,

I don't know if

it truly Tiger King is a good example, but Penguin, I think Penguin nailed it, but I don't know everyone who's like, yeah,

Nana's been talking about Penguin.

Like, I don't know that's happening.

I'm going to text my mom.

I'm going to text my mom and find out if she and my dad watched Penguin.

This will be.

My mom watched Penguin, loved it, loved it.

But my mom is also secretly a low-key mega nerd.

So,

did you and daddy watch Penguin?

We're going to find out.

Stranger Things, I think season one and two, yes.

After that,

people started to whittle off of Stranger Things.

Yeah.

Like, I don't think it has the same impact it did before.

That's another one that was only supposed to be a season.

Yep, yep, yep.

And they were going to do it.

It was going to be like an anthology thing where every time it would be a different story.

Yeah.

Every season was, yeah, it was going to be kind of like Twilight Zone, except a full season.

And they were going to explore like different.

Yeah.

I wish they had done that.

That would have crushed.

I like that to say,

I

really love some of the characters they've introduced in Stranger Things.

I like some of the character development they've done in Stranger Things, but I,

if they

stuck to their original vision, I think it would still have the same impact because there would be like newness to it each time, you know?

Yeah.

And I mean, they try to do that.

They try to do the newness with each season being not only a different time period as they move forward into the modern era, but also a new type of like

DD inspired villain.

Like, they, they, like, it's there, except I think just because,

you know, it's one of those shows that as time goes on, just like in everything, people fall off.

She said, Yes, I don't have HBO Max, but I watched three episodes at Chrissy's, my sister's.

It was fantastic.

Yeah,

it's a good show.

I think it's just because, one, it's Batman.

So there's other people who just won't watch it because it's Batman.

Two, HBO, you have to have HBO.

Three, you have to want to watch like the, like, a villain origin story show,

which, you know, it's tough.

But everyone who's watched it that I've talked to has been like, that was awesome.

Awesome.

So, yeah.

Pretty much.

I fell asleep in the first episode.

It's okay.

I saw the beginning of the first episode and I saw the very end of the first episode.

I have no idea how we got there, but Sam was like, that was great.

What a good first episode.

And I was like,

oops.

I'll go ahead and watch that later.

So.

I get it.

I understand.

Yeah.

We're reaching time, my dude.

Okay.

Which is unfortunate because I feel like we have so much to talk about.

But is there any, aside from

game awards, is there any other like news

that you wanted to touch on real fast?

Well, first off,

somehow the internet is still ludicrously horny for Marvel rivals.

Yeah.

They are ripping 3D models, which

God help us.

You know what that means.

It's only a matter of time.

It's only a matter of time.

Poor squirrel girl.

Oh, God.

Don't say that.

Also,

looks like our dear friend Erdorf has announced that maybe a faith movie is in the works.

That's very cool.

I wish only the best for him.

We had a release for Alien Rogue Incursion, a VR alien game.

Very cool stuff.

If you want to be terrified and never close your eyes again.

In some of the goofiest news in the history of news,

I don't even know what to make of this.

Jeremy Allen White,

who is the bear, will be starring in the new Mandalorian and Grogu movie as Rata the Hut.

And now, if you just Google Rata the Hut,

originally a little baby boy, I assume now fully grown.

And I don't know what their thought process was,

but they, yes, he's stinky.

He is literally stinky.

I'm so excited because this dude, everybody wants to lick his face.

Make him a little creature.

I'm so excited.

Yep.

So

I can't believe that's what they're doing.

I love it.

Yeah, I absolutely love.

They were like, let's take.

a hot it actor right now and just make him a hut.

That's hilarious.

That's so funny and I'm kind of here for it.

Whether the Mandalorian Grogu will be a good movie, no idea.

I mean, right now, Star Wars is all over the place, but I love this little thing they're doing and I'm here for it.

So that's very fun.

Also,

we got a

like a first-person Fortnite 5v5 shooter.

Just when I thought there couldn't be any more, Fortnite was like, there can and there will so that is a thing that now exists good

and um

the we also got a very interesting kind of uh

playstation poll so Famitsu ran a poll for readers about the 30 best games across all PlayStation systems okay

and these are your 30

Number one, Final Fantasy VII.

That's from 1997.

Number two, this is crazy, but I guess maybe it's a sign of Japan.

Monster Hunter Portable Second Generation.

Okay.

Number three, Xeno Gears, which I must stress, 1998.

Also, Xeno Gears, and fantastic game, but literally one half of a novel.

Like half the game just becomes reading.

Number four, Final Fantasy 10.

Number five, Resident Evil.

Number six, Monster Hunter Portable Third.

Number seven, Metal Gear Solid.

Number 8, Ark the Lad 2.

Number 9, Ridge Racer.

I love Ark the Lad.

Number 10, Dragon Quest VII.

Number 11, Final Fantasy VIII.

Number 12, Monster Hunter World.

I am shocked World is 12, but okay.

13, Wild Arms.

Great game.

14, Gran Turismo.

Number 15, Final Fantasy 9, which is crazy.

It's down that far.

Number 16, Sueak It in 2.

Number 17, Final Fantasy 11, crazy, that's even on the list.

Number 18, Metal Gear Solid 3, Snake Eater.

19, Dragon Quest VIII, Journey of the Cursed King, which Dragon Quest VIII was my first Dragon Quest.

Love that game.

20, Kingdom Hearts 2.

21, Suicoden.

22, Shadow Hearts.

23, Dynasty Warriors.

I assume that's the first, because it's from 2001, so I'm assuming that's the PlayStation 2 launch title Dynasty Warriors which would have technically been Dynasty Warriors 2 whatever don't care love that persona 4 is 24 Doco demo isho never heard of that that's 25 Yakuza is 26 27 is crash bandicoot 28 is tales of eternia 29 is the last of us and 30 is ghost of tsushima an interesting list but again it's japanese viewers very yeah i it tracks if you think about it from the perspective of a japanese player yes Yes.

The fact that there's like,

you know, if you were to ask an American audience, definitely Last of Us would be higher.

You know what I mean?

Like the impact here was completely different.

So I think it's interesting just to look at that.

And yeah, it's pretty much the news.

Hot dog.

That certainly did it.

As always, it's what we do.

It's what we do.

It's always a delight, my friend.

What are you up to this week?

Boy, oh, boy.

Trying to prep for the fact that this coming week, I will be in Chicago, Illinois.

To see the Kranner?

Yes, we're doing a live show Friday night.

It's sold out.

It's going to be great.

So live your life, kids.

Be good.

I should, in theory, still be around, but in laptop form for next Friday.

Because I promise you, no one will be up.

By the time we have to do our podcast.

No one will be awake, and so I'll have plenty of time.

Perfect.

Yep.

Fantastic.

Yeah, guys, if you enjoy geekenders,

like I was saying, a couple weeks back, we did an episode that was like our sort of first impressions about the nominees for the game awards.

If you wanted to compare and contrast, but just generally, all of the geekenders,

the VODs, are on youtube.com slash jessecox.

They do not exist here on my Twitch.

And we're on all of the podcasty things if you want to just listen to us audio only.

However, as displayed earlier today, you do sometimes miss a visual goof, which are notable.

The best visual goofs.

If you're not watching, you're missing out on Dodger taking a scarf.

And putting the scarf

over the head.

It became little babushka.

It was pretty amazing.

And then we developed some Warhammer lore, which I think

you will all feel trapped perfectly

along with the pre-existing lore.

Yeah,

without the emotion, the goof is lost on people.

They just don't understand.

It's true.

You didn't get to see Sigma Dugues?

You got to see Sigma Dugues.

No, you don't.

No, you don't.

It'll scar you.

Sigma Dugues will cut you like those cheekbones.

Thank goodness.

Do not fall for Sigma Dugu.

Thank you all so much for watching.

We'll be back.

We'll be back.

Same bat time, same bat channel.

So have a fantastic weekend.

Take care of yourselves and bye-bye.

Bye.

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