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Hello, everybody, and welcome to Geek Enders

with Duke's and Jessup.

What up, people of Earth

and beyond?

I assume, who knows?

Who knows who could be listening?

We're talking other dimensions, other realities, other worlds, or maybe none of the above.

I know, this is not Chaluminati.

Oddly enough.

But I'm not going to take any chances.

I don't want to un-include anyone.

I see what you mean.

Yeah.

You want to make sure everybody feels like they can be here.

Yeah.

Like

Blicklorp, Schnorgans,

Grungus,

The Meach.

All fantastic people that I may or may not know who may or may not be real.

Yeah.

The Meach.

Shout out to the Meach.

Where's where's the mechan shout out to the meech and grungus you guys

they're the best they sound like good drinking buddies they are yeah we we drink uh

spotschka together the meach is is the one who like notices that you're missing and brings you water yeah you know

like meowus doesn't have

yeah

and i'm like thanks bud he's like

meow rush rock

yeah.

It reminded me of the way that you were talking just then reminded me not of an alien, I don't believe.

Oh, it reminded you of Missy Elliott, I believe.

Yep, yep, she can fix the drama, yeah, yeah.

Nope, Missy, Mr.

Meaner Elliott, yeah, absolutely.

I get it.

Hmm,

Mr.

Mr.

Meaner would be another

good name, Mr.

Mr.

Meener?

Yeah.

Hell yeah.

We were discussing names for the devil earlier.

Mr.

Meener would be a good one.

More mean, median, and mode.

You know what I mean?

He's like the nerd.

Sure.

Yeah.

Mr.

Meener is

the nerd of

which group?

The group of aliens and interdimensional beings I hang out with on the regular.

I see.

I'm so sorry.

I'm just trying to make sure.

I'm just trying to keep it it all straight.

That's all.

Yeah.

The Meech, not a fan of that dude.

Mr.

Meaner, talks a big game about math, but mostly it's drug-related.

Right.

Yeah, it's true.

Welcome to the show, everyone.

You can tell we have no guests because this intro is bonkers.

Today,

we're going to talk about something very important to me.

Okay.

Some might say the most important thing in the world, honestly.

So Allen White 2 had a new DLC this week, and it was great and I absolutely loved it.

Okay, go on.

It is a thing they've been doing lately.

When I say lately, I think since control,

like,

no, I mean, like, I was trying,

you roasted me, and I feel.

The way they work, at least what they're doing so far, is like, they'll do, for example, in control.

They had control and they had a first DLC that was like, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, it's the shooting DLC.

And then they had their second dlc which was there's gonna be some lore and it's gonna lead to the next game okay so it was like alan wake stuff and then for uh alan wake two they have this new dlc which is the lake house and it is a uh

very scary not at all cool

monster fest that is a teaser for what's going to happen i assume in their next multiplayer game firebreak and control two

which is the um one that's being worked on with annapurna and i believe they're gonna do like a tv show or something i have no clue what's going on can't wait it's gonna be great um can't wait love it

here's all i need to know about this expansion it like

besides the final boss being

like

a one-shot Andy and just constantly destroying me and me screaming at the thing.

Here's what.

If you don't know the setup for the remedyverse

at the top over all of it is the federal bureau of control.

And it's basically like if you need a analog to something that I think people might know about is imagine SCP, right?

All the SCP things that you can read online.

And you can, it's like, basically a containment facility, this big government organization that controls possible alternate realities and weird monstery things and stuff happening in the world.

They run that stuff.

Very men and blackie, very SCP, that kind of thing.

Anyway,

they have locations all over the world studying all sorts of weird stuff.

And one of them is the lake house.

And it is there that they're studying the phenomenon that is happening in Alan Wake.

So that's like the top-down version of what's happening.

And so

while they're doing this study of the phenomenon of Alan Wake, they're trying to replicate what is happening in the Alan Wake franchise.

So if you've never played Alan Wake,

the basic premise is that it's a writer whose wife goes missing while they're on a lake, and then he like

goes nuts trying to find her because everyone's like, dude, I don't know what you're talking about.

There isn't even a cabinet on that lake.

And he's going crazy.

And

the bad guy, the mystery, the thing that we don't really know right now is that

opposing Alan Wake is something in the lake that is a malevolent force.

Some sort of like

thing that is trying to mess with him and escape from whatever dimension is in the lake.

Like that's the above-board like overview of what the Alan Wake franchise is about.

And one of the things that is interesting about it is that this thing that's in the lake draws artists to it.

And it then abuses the thing that I think all artists, be it us doing this kind of nonsense, or like a painter or a writer.

It basically is like, I'm going to latch on to the dark aspect of the fact that you think you suck and that everything that you create is trash.

And I'm going to like just abuse that over and over and over again and use you to escape.

So

the lake house, as like an FBC organization, is like, hey, what if we study this phenomenon and bring in a bunch of like

people to study them?

And so there's two, in a very funny idea, I love this idea.

There's two doctors.

They're married.

They both have the last name.

So every time you read something about them, you're reading about like one of the two.

But the two doctors are like, okay, here's our plans.

Doctor one is going to create a bunch of kind of like

AI kind of to copy Alan Wake's writing style so that Alan can like they can tap into whatever Alan Wake was doing.

The other is like, hey, what if instead of Alan Wake, we do art?

So let's go kidnap an artist and make him paint a bunch of stuff and we'll see if that connects.

So now you have these two doctors who are doing tests and one of them is an artist.

And all I'll say is

something happens.

It goes down.

And when you show up, as Janina Givanker, who is the agent Estavez in the game, when you show up,

everything is painted.

All the walls are painted.

And one of the things this game does that I

love but hate is that in the paint

there are figures

and every so often the figures come out of the paint and attack you.

And here's the thing, they do what they did in Alan Wake 2, which is the sneakiest, meanest thing in the world.

In Alan Wake 2, there'd be shadow people and they'd be like, wake,

wake.

And they talk to you and they'd be like, Alan Wake.

In the background, you wouldn't know which one was going to attack you.

There'd be shadows everywhere.

And then one minute you turn a corner, a shadow would jump out and try to kill you.

And you're like, what the hell?

So they do the same thing here where there's paint people everywhere.

But only like one out of every 12 actually attacks you.

And you don't know which one it is.

And sometimes it's random.

So you're just walking around.

And like,

you'll turn and be like something, like a paint dude on the wall, and you'll be like,

What the hell do I do here?

and you walk past and it's fine.

Sometimes you'll do a whole room, and the paint guy will be sitting there, and they'll be like, All right, cool, and then you'll go to leave and be like, Gotcha, bitch!

Every

oh my god, how dare they!

Oh my god,

that's not like

I loved it.

I had a blast, it dropped so much lore.

There's definitely information about the control 2 sequel in there.

Um, it's a lot of cool stuff absolutely

like very much lore heavy can't believe how much i enjoy it it is uh a brilliant game but all of alan wake 2 is is brilliant like it's it's so good i'm glad you liked it yeah it's really cool it is uh brutal they are you still working on it or have you finished it I beat it.

The DLC is like...

I don't know if someone complained about so Alan Wake 2 gives you a lot of stuff.

I don't know, maybe if you play it on hard mode, but I just played on normal, you get a lot of like

ammo and health packs.

You get so much stuff to make it through the game.

When you play the DLC,

I think I found five health packs the entire time.

I was,

I spent a lot of time just like limping.

I'm like, oh, God.

Oh, God.

But what's funny, I think it's really creative.

The more you get attacked by the paint monsters, the more your

jacket has like streaks of paint on it oh cool like that's cool as well love little touches like that yeah yeah that was really neat um

i saw someone say can i play allen wake two without playing one literally they've designed it so you can hilariously there is a whole section of allan wake two that is a retelling of alan wake one

That's like, just to get you caught up.

And so, yeah, if anything, control is probably more necessary because

the FBC shows up in Island Wake 2 as part of the story.

Control is so good, by the way.

Such a worthwhile play.

Absolutely.

Like, can't even believe how well that game, like,

it just scratched every itch I have in video gaming to the point, like,

I've never fell in love with the game more.

Like, it was, control is basically.

If you play the weirdest Jesse game ever, but also the coolest Star Wars game ever, you literally have force powers, you can pick up stuff and like toss it at enemies like you're a cool Jedi.

You fly around, it's cool as hell.

Love it.

So, I must stress, absolutely thrilled about the future of Remedy and all their stuff.

They do not disappoint.

I'm so pleased.

If you like

Alamake 2 is so perfectly trippy that

it somehow

is like

making all of their games canonical.

Like the games that even Xbox owns.

It's like, look, we're not going to mention the name, but like, you know what we're talking about.

You get what this is, right?

Yeah.

Love that stuff.

Big fan.

Yep.

I've been playing that, and I did, I'm still chugging away at Metaphor.

That game is so good.

I saw that you were streaming it yesterday, I think.

Yeah, absolutely still.

My camera died yesterday, so now I'm on a webcam.

So hopefully it still looks good.

But

fortunately, we live in an era of pretty decent webcams, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I, wow, I just, I can't, I can't even believe how much I enjoy metaphor.

It is

everything that I love about Persona minus the fact that there's a lot of stuff in Persona I don't like.

Right.

Where it's just like it's the stuff you enjoy from Persona without without the shit you don't care about.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

There's, I mean, there's, you know, as much as I love a good romance, your fellow

NPC party members, as much as I love, like, what are you going to do in class today?

It takes so long for Persona games to get going into like the stuff I love.

The fact that this thing is like, yo, let's get crazy immediately.

And then it keeps going.

And

I don't know, something about it just clicks.

And I'm feeling every bit bit of it.

Do you have any sort of a gauge on how far into the game you are?

I don't think I'm far at all, to be honest.

How many hours in are you?

Oh, boy.

Because it's supposed to be like

20 to 100, right?

Yeah, I'm not even at 20 hours.

I know that I've got a lot of time because I went to go raid JP and he was playing it.

And I was on whatever the equivalent of July 30th was.

And he was on like August 2nd or something like that.

And I was like, okay, I got a lot of, I got a lot to catch up on.

Right.

I'm very curious, you know, where the story goes, but so far I'm in the basic premise, which is there's a king who is dead and they need a replacement.

And it has been decreed that the way it's going to work is by popularity contest.

Whoever wins over the people will become the next king.

And so,

yeah, I'm like in the middle of my quest to go do that, where it's like, we got to go win people over.

So let's go here and here and here.

And I'm like, okay.

And

it is both very high fantasy, but also has the persona touches, which I love.

So there's one thing that happens in your like airship, not airship.

Basically, it's an airship, but it has legs.

Your airship that's not an airship.

Every five days, if you go to the bathroom, you get a luck point.

And your guy goes like...

I've heard that.

And I guess

there's no cap on it.

You just keep doing it.

Yeah.

Every five days, you can go back and keep getting lucky.

Yeah.

And I'd love that.

Like, things like that are very persona feeling.

But then the game is just like.

Go to the forest, kill the goblins.

I'm like, okay, yeah, I'll do that.

And then you go to the forest, fight the goblins.

And then it's like, now you can go back to town or keep fighting those goblins because you get an archetype to level.

And I'm like, i do have an archetype to all right yeah no i'm gonna do i'm doing this

yeah that's where i'm at right now where the i last ended in the middle of a dungeon and i was like i'm not gonna guys i'm gonna end here because off stream i'm about to power grind this entire thing until i can one-shot all these guys like just letting you know

yeah it's a it's a treat it feels good here's the problem we are how many days away a week away from even more games that i want to play badly and i just

i'm overwhelmed yeah that's that's where we're at i took your advice and played naiva

did you cry i cried a lot i cried and basically was so good dude i cried basically the second the game started um

yeah

and and had little little dribbles throughout the game and then cried again at the end.

Yeah, it was great.

It was short.

Took like three and a half, four hours, I think, something like that.

Yeah, but yeah, gorgeous.

I think, you know, it's got somebody, somebody was calling that game and Gris Grease

walking simulators.

This game has a lot of combat in it.

I would not call this a walking simulator at all.

I think that's really doing it a disservice.

Um, you can play people, you can play it in a way where you don't have combat, I think.

I think there's a way to play it where it's

interesting, where you just want to look at the beautiful art and stuff.

I mean,

I think that

everyone who said walking simulator or people who just either saw Grease or played Grease, because that was like you're jumping around, it's like artsy, it looks very beautiful, it's like telling a story.

But it is a puzzle game, Greasy Guys, yeah.

This is the next level up where you're fighting and you have to solve the puzzles while like,

yeah, absolute disservice to this game to say it's a walk.

Like, it's not.

It's clearly a well-thought-out, like, platforming combat action game where you also have to manage a pup and uh solve puzzles by slashing like it's nah that's a stupid that's a stupid take you're stupid for your stupid take the internet person yeah it's beautiful the every single new area i went to every time the game was like and now you're just gonna run with nava for a while i would be thinking to myself this game is gorgeous every area you run through the way it transitions between zones like it's just beautiful.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Loved it.

The first, I don't want to like spoil something, but the first area where you fight a boss is like,

has the exact same,

I don't know if like visual quality is the right word, but it has the exact same like emotional resonance as like when you do the big first fight in Sekiro

or you like that vibe of just like walking through the reeds and it's about to go down and like, let's do this.

Very, very nice.

Absolutely love just every aspect of this game.

Plus, if anything happens to your poor pup, my God, it is like, I will murder the world.

I do not, do not hurt that boy.

I will kill you and your family and your family.

Like,

it gets you.

It makes you care.

Yeah.

The, the game, I think,

I was, I was saying, this might sound really sadistic, but I really want Sam to play this game.

It's not his sort of game at all.

But when that dog is a puppy, it looks exactly like our dog.

And I was like, bro, I want Sam to play this game so bad just because the whole time that I was playing it, I was like, it looks just like Peach.

And then something would happen to the dog and I'd be like, ow!

I know people in chat are joking, but like, it does turn you into a little bit of John Wick.

Like you, if anything happens to that pup, you're just like,

oh, I'll die today.

It's great.

Yeah, that is a tremendous game.

Love it.

And it doesn't take a lot of your time.

And it just is like a beautiful, quick romp with a sweet pup that you'll cry a bunch.

Yes.

I also played another game that was only like four bucks, but I'm enjoying it a lot.

And I think if you really sat down with it, especially if you're good with city builders, I think you could probably crack this one out in a couple hours as well.

But it's called Technotopia,

and

it is a casual city builder.

It's a little bit, it's kind of like Dorf Romantic meets Reigns.

If you, if you played either of those games, I know Jesse's played Reigns.

I don't know about Dorf Romantic, but essentially,

it has the,

you have a deck and the cards represent tiles aspect of Dorf Romantic.

You're given different shapes that you can can make with similar tiles that will do things for you.

So you do want to think a lot about placement.

The way that it's reigns-ish is in the fact that

the idea of the game is: you are an AI

that has been created to figure out how to have a perfectly balanced city.

So there are four different groups of people that you are trying to

keep balanced amongst each other.

There is the 1%,

the government,

big business, and

the common folk, essentially.

So that's the reins part.

Yes.

So everything that you do, every building gives points to a different group.

And as the longer that you play, you unlock bigger buildings that do more specific things, that give you more points in one way or another, or help other buildings, you know, like produce more.

And there are events that affect the influence of those groups.

So every week there will be some sort of an event that's like, this rich girl ran over somebody.

They want to like pay off the government to make it so that she doesn't have to go to court, right?

But you're the AI and you can interfere if you want.

So it'll say like, do you want to interfere in X, Y, or Z way?

Or do you want to just say, no, that's not my business?

And depending depending on what you do,

in the eyes of the city in general, it will seem as though one group has more or less influence based on what happens with that, right?

So if

this,

you know, uppercrest girl manages to just walk away and not go to court, then it seems like the elite are being treated with preferential treatment, right?

Right.

So then they gain more influence in the city.

It's that sort of a situation.

There are tons of events.

And the thing that I really like about it, and I think one of the things that makes it more casual feeling, is that if one of the groups goes down to zero, basically every week, like the

social, physical, whatever taxes on that group of people resolve themselves.

And if they don't have enough, if they haven't been given enough resources over the course of that week, then they'll go down to zero or under zero, right?

And then you crash out.

So the idea is that they reset the AI.

They like reboot you and you start over.

But everything that you've done, all of the like big story stuff that you've done is still there.

So you've been rebooted, but the city is still like the people and where they're at mentally and the things they're asking for maintains.

It's kind of like,

I don't, is it the most recent Reigns?

One of the Reigns games where they did Dynasty Warriors, right?

They did Renzo Through Kingdoms.

The premise of that was you're traveling back in time via some machine to inhabit the body of an ancestor of yours.

I think that's what it is.

And every time you die or lose or fail, you pop back to the future and they're like, so how'd it go?

So I think it's very similar in that where instead of popping back to the future, it's like the AI resets.

And then it's like, all right, everything you did is fine.

We're just going to send you further in the future to a different ancestor.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's great.

It's got this fantastic Art Deco, like art style, and it's only like four bucks.

So I highly recommend.

It's, I'm, I typically don't do great with city builders because a lot of times they have a lot of minutiae that you need to keep track of.

This one does not.

You've just got those four stats and you've got to, you've got to sort of do, again, the same thing as with Reigns, where

at first when you start playing, you're like, well, fuck big business, right?

Like, I don't, I don't want them to, you know, be doing X, Y, or Z.

I want the the common man, but you can't just be for one group because you die immediately.

You have to, you have to be like playing and placating all of these different groups in different ways.

So you get to this point where you're like, I'm an unfeeling AI.

I'm choosing whatever I need to choose, you know?

Yeah.

So yeah.

I was going to ask if you had played Frostpunk 2, but I realized when you said you're not into city management, I was like, all right, never mind.

But that has a very similar mechanic to which I think you would love, which is there's a Congress and in order to get anything done in your city, you have to get it approved by them.

So you're playing kind of everyone.

So there's different, like the techno union, and there's like, these are the people who are the wilderness survival people.

And these are the people, like, and as you develop things, new groups will pop up.

So it'll be like, oh,

you spent a lot of time in science.

And now there's a whole like science.

group of nerds who have formed a voting block.

Or if you spend a lot of time like doing mercantile work you'll get like that group of people and so now you have to like balance it out and placate everyone and you know if you don't take care of a certain thing people go on strike you're like oh my god what yeah right so you gotta do all that and what's interesting is then anytime you want to put some sort of new law into effect it'll take you to that screen of all the different people on your on your like uh your congress

And it'll be like, okay, so 38% support what you're trying to do.

You got to go win some votes.

And it's like, okay,

yes, here's what I'll do.

No taxes on you guys for like, I don't know, 10 months, let's say.

And just like keep kissing ass and try to get like, all right, I can make this vote happen.

And then it's like a little voting screen and it's like,

and it tallies it up.

And I'm like, this is pretty fun.

It's, it's very interesting to see what you can get away with.

But what wounded up happening is you'll have people, you'll have at the bottom of the screen, these different people who are like,

so we saw what you did there.

So we're just going to stop working for a few days.

And you're like, what?

No,

no,

yeah,

something that I noticed in this game.

This will be the last thing I say about it, but something that I noticed in this game was that there's kind of like a hidden fifth faction almost that pops up a lot, and it's crime, like criminals.

And so, occasionally, when an event pops up, there will just be a symbol of a gun

that means like in some way it'll affect the like criminal underbelly of the town, which is so funny.

That's I you have to play this.

This is really neat.

It's great.

It's very cute.

And then I played the most crender bait game ever, which I'm going to be so shocked if he hasn't played this, but I finally played web fishing.

Have you played that yet?

No, what do you mean?

Web fishing?

No.

Web fishing.

This game is...

It's so simple.

It's like the perfect game.

game the reason that i say it's crendor bait it's mostly fishing also the characters look like the

reject animal crossing neighbors yes yes yeah and

you

you basically you just fish that's the whole thing you just fish you try to get all of the fish there's a there um at a certain point i think you know you're just gaining money and don't really have much to spend it on unless you want to buy all of the like there's tons of clothes and faces and things that you can buy i think the dev is is adding more like animal bodies currently you can be a cat or a dog basically but i think they're going to be adding different ones

and you can choose to spend your money on scratch tickets it's there's just like a couple of silly things you can do in this game But it's more than anything, it's a, I'm going to hop into a voice call with a friend and we're both going to sit and fish and just shoot this shit.

Like, it's perfect for that you know

i must stress all the reviews for this are awesome but the best one i'm just gonna read this review to everyone this is from origami army um

yeah this is a hardcore fishing me and the lads we clock off our 12-hour unpaid shift down at the lead grinding factory absolutely knackered covered in lead dust and what do we do straight to the water we're into a 12-hour section of hardcore web fishing we crack open a few stubbies sit around whinging about the missus, and the bloody asbestos we copped as kids playing at the old dump.

I'll tell you, you haven't lived till you slid down an asbestos hill.

Me and the boys customize their animals to reflect the 12-hour unpaid shift at the lead grinding factory.

We bring the kids along sometimes too.

They try to catch a few fish, but mostly we tell them to toughen up while they play jump off the lighthouse and break no bones.

My boy Gort, he's a legend now.

No bones broken, jumping off the lighthouse.

Real tough little bugger.

Every now and then, me and the boys hit up a shack in town and torment the rat.

She's a good sport, loves it, honestly.

Oh, and I love to see barbecues added so I can grill.

I want to grill my fish with my boys.

That's it.

That's the review.

And I love that review.

That's very good.

I want to grill some fish with my boys.

I just want to get a fish.

I love that.

I hope they gotta grill.

Is he gonna sit there and keep grilling?

That's hilarious.

That's a good review.

My favorite part is you can get little fishing buddies, quote unquote, and they're just like that's what he's talking about.

Yeah, there's just buckets with little frogs in them, and you can upgrade them.

And I swear to God, most of the time I'm just fishing, catching just you know, basic ass fish.

And it goes, One of your buddies has caught a fish.

And you go over there, and it is the largest shark you've ever seen in your life.

You're like, How the fuck did this man catch a massive shark in a bucket?

I'm so impressed.

It's great.

I just, all the reviews are so funny.

The human race is simply better off for this having been made.

It's a benefit to mankind on the same level as fire or electricity.

These reviews are so good.

It's cute, man.

It's cute.

It's cute.

It looks cute.

I also,

we might be, if you're free, we might be playing a little bit of this after GeekEnders, but I also tried out with Octo last night the Jackbox Survey Scramble, which is the new Jackbox game.

And I think they literally just said, man, you know,

a lot of people really like the games where they just type in a thing and then sit back and let the game do the rest of the work.

So it's all mini-games based on survey questions and answers.

Interesting.

If we play, do you want, am I calling into the, am I using my phone?

Is that the vibe?

It's the same as all the other Jackbox games.

Yeah.

So you just

do I need to buy it is what I'm asking.

Great.

I have it.

Love that.

I have it.

Love that for me.

Yeah.

So like one of them, one of the games is try to, you know, here's a survey question with 400 answers.

Try to guess.

the, you know, number one answer.

And then at a certain point, it'll be like, just kidding, try to guess the lowest answer.

You know, great.

And one of the games is try to fill out as many answers as possible.

Octo and I were terrible at that one.

That was crazy.

We were sweating so bad.

One of them is tic-tac-toe,

basically.

So like it'll, you know, it'll be like one box is the number one through number six answer, one box is the number seven through number 10 answer.

And so you're trying to figure out like, oh my God, okay, in order for me to like get a diagonal, I have to figure out what would be like a really low answer.

It's like that sort of thing.

It's, it's funny.

The last one is Buck Wild Bonkers.

It, it was so hard, and neither of us enjoyed it at all.

It's Pong,

but

you basically all along the bottom of the screen, it goes from one to a hundred, I think.

And there's a ball really slowly bouncing, and you have to

try to guess an answer in the right spot to create the word so that the ball will hit the word in the right spot.

That sounds anxiety.

I, we were both like, fuck this, actually.

We just let ourselves die.

It was so, we'll try it, but it was so,

bro.

I was like, oh, I hate this, dude.

The question?

The question was so funny, but we literally were like, I don't know.

The question was unconventional places to poop.

And

we were saying shit like, on a friend, in your hand, in a hole, in, I don't know.

In a hole is actually pretty conventional.

Yeah, it was one of the top answers.

But it didn't mean that the ball hit it.

So what's a good answer between in a hole and in my hand?

Don't know.

It was crazy.

So we gave up and died.

Yeah, I wouldn't know.

I would just start like in a bucket.

In a bucket.

In the fry, the fryer at Wendy's.

So

in the school hallway.

Yeah, I just started typing stuff in.

Did you ever get super into any of the Jackbox games?

Yeah, I'm a big fan of

the one where you

write a statement, but also have to draw a thing.

And then it makes a shirt out of it, combines them and makes the shirt.

Is it that one?

I don't, maybe.

I think it's T.

I don't remember what it's called.

It's the shirt one.

Where at the end they're like, you could buy this shirt if you want to.

I've seen so many, like, some of the, like, hardest laughs I've ever had have been from that game.

Yeah.

Octo is saying, because Octo was also saying that that was one of his favorites.

And he was like, TKO is weird because it's one of those games where you're just kind of having an okay time.

And then suddenly you're laughing so hard, you're pissing your pants.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like

it goes from nothing to 100 immediately.

Yes.

I love that one.

I love the murder one where your little tiny pincushion kids are killed.

Me too.

And I, I,

even the ones that I think people generally hate, like the rap one, it's always people trying way too hard in that one, but I love that one too.

Like, yeah, I'm a big fan of all of them, even the old ones that were just like, here's

a quiz, and I'm going to talk to you like this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're all, they're all great.

Big fan.

I do think games like Quiplash have become sort of like

they feel on the same level as,

oh my God, What's that card game?

Cards against humanity.

Yes.

Where it's like, there's nothing wrong with the game, but but everybody makes the same jokes every time, you know?

Like

honestly, those games are all about playing to your audio.

Like you think you're the funny one.

Just look around the room, look at the answers and be like, all right, my next answers are going to be like

jizz.

Yep.

Yeah.

Like, all right.

You know, you think you get onto something and then everyone's like,

okay, moving on.

You know, like, I put so much time into that answer.

Fine.

You know what?

From now on, I'm going to be like, Jesse's tiny dick.

You know, like, that's going to be, and then people will be like, ah, and I'm like,

one time we were playing, we played that game with Sam's family one time when

a not insignificant number of them had had a couple of drinks.

And

dude, the winning answer every time had something to do with Sam's mom every single time.

And everyone was like, hilarious.

And I was like, all right.

Yeah, it was about figuring out like, all right, I know who my mom is.

We can't win here.

We're not going to ball.

All right.

I'll dumb it down.

Like when we were at, when we did it at Coxconn one year, everyone, the first two rounds, everyone started out and was like, here's what you're going to do.

It's going to be funny jokes.

And eventually someone, everything became like a Coxconn joke.

And from that point on, every answer was like,

you know, getting on the hotel at CoxCon, like drinking too much of cat.

And I was like, yeah, yeah.

Yep.

yep, yep, here we are.

I know what this is now.

All right, let's all do this.

Yeah,

that's why I think the shirt one's the best one.

It is TKO.

Everyone in chat was like, TKO, I think it's the best one because you're just writing stuff and then drawing a thing, and then it does the work for you, and everyone just votes on what's funniest.

Yeah, and

the one that got me the most is someone drew like a frog on a bicycle, and then underneath it, it said, like,

I don't even want to be here anymore.

I was like, that's really funny.

I don't know why.

It was just like a really crappy frog on a bike, and it made me laugh so hard.

I love that.

It was great.

It's very cute.

I don't know that I expected, like,

whoever it was that was like, we got to bring Jackbox games back into

like,

the space.

We got to figure out how to modernize this shit.

They really crushed it.

Yep.

Because for those of you who don't know, Jackbox games have been around for a very long time.

A really long time.

I don't even want to look up how many.

I remember Jackbox 8 being a thing.

I don't want to look up how many there are.

Because it'll make me.

It's a.

I saw a thing today.

I'm not sure about the accuracy of it, but it made me feel very old.

Like, you know, it's one of those things where we're having the conversation about Lord of the Rings.

It was like, you know, that came out in 2001.

You're like,

I saw someone post a a thing about the Pepe Silvia bit from Always Sunny, and they said, This is now 16 years old.

I was like, No,

no, I didn't want to look it up to verify that was accurate.

I was just like,

No,

16 years, I was like, No,

so okay, the original You Don't Know Jack is from 1995.

So cool.

So

cool.

It's pretty spicy.

That's right.

It did start as you don't know Jack, and then it became Jackbox because they combined a bunch of stuff.

Yeah.

What was the first Jackbox game?

I don't know.

First Jackbox Party Pack was 2014, but actually

Jackbox game.

I mean,

yeah.

Yeah, Jackbox Party Pack is what I meant.

Yeah, the Party Pack series started in 2014.

The You Don't Know Jack games, there was You Don't Know Jack, You Don't Know Jack.

Sure.

I don't know.

Yeah.

But it's been around for a long time.

I mean, the inclusion of being able to use your phones and just go to a website is the smartest thing they ever did.

So smart.

They made it so easy to actually turn it into a party game.

Yeah.

What's crazy is there was a time period where I think it was Sony was trying to do that with their games too.

They were like, if you bring your phone, everyone can play.

I think it might have been Supermassive that was trying to do that.

I can't remember.

But

there was a time where they were trying out fun stuff.

I feel like that's something Sony does a lot of, where they try a thing, they do it once, and then they're like, nah,

we tried one time.

Yeah.

Meanwhile, Nintendo will be like, we made an entire console where every game you have to jiggle like a crazy person.

And every people are like, what?

And they're like, yep, we did it.

Well, you know what?

We might do it again.

It's like, okay.

Back up, everybody.

Yeah, Sony just never goes in.

They're like, yeah, give it a try it.

And then someone does it like,

hang on.

It's like, okay, cool.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I mean, I don't know

at what point, like, like,

I guess it's the opposite, or maybe it's in the same line as a sunk cost fallacy, right?

They're like, we just don't want to sink a bunch of time and energy into this and have it not work out.

But they don't

stick with it long enough ever, right?

Is the issue?

I mean, that's the biggest problem, I think, with all of

entertainment and media and technology and everything right now, where it's like, what's the cost-benefit of us spending a bunch of money to try something new versus doing a thing we already know sells?

You know, the best example I can think of, I'm not going to call anyone out, but I think we all know that we've seen this before.

In social media and the social media game, right?

A lot of influencers, TikTokers, YouTubers, whatever will, and it's like a thing and it works.

It definitely works.

They will make a short, they'll make a TikTok, release it.

Then, if it does well, they'll take the exact same short, exact same TikTok, tweak it slightly, re-release it.

And they'll do that like four or five times, and people will see either one, it's a thing they've seen before and they like,

or two, it hits a whole new audience because of the minor tweaks and they see it and they like it and so you'll see on many of these if you go to like their actual site because you know tick tocks or whatever you're scrolling through so you never really think to go visit their tick tock channel but if you go there you'll see like

six of the same tick tock with a million views a piece And they're just like, because that one did well.

We're just going to keep making it.

It's a thing.

And rather than, okay, let's try something new.

It's like, no, no, no, no, no.

no, let's keep making the same thing over and over again.

And it's the same thing in

video games, they're just like it's a lot of money, and they keep getting scared that, like, if we spend all that money and it doesn't do well, so let's make the 12th version of the same thing.

And you're like, the diminishing returns, how do you not notice?

But

whatever, it's absolutely crazy to me, yeah,

how weird.

I, I mean, that's why the indie space is so so good, but they're $4.99 fishing games and stuff.

You know, like that's what, that's what we need.

We need people in the indie space to be like, yeah, you know what?

I'm going to try something weird and different.

And we talked about it last week.

It pays off.

For sure.

I'm never going to knock somebody for being like, I figured out another way to use this exact same footage that I have or whatever.

There's a cooking channel that I used to watch all the time.

And he would straight up upload a video that was like

cooking the thing with backing music and explaining what he's doing throughout the video.

And then he'd re-upload it without his explanation so that it was just nice music and cooking.

And then he'd re-upload it a third time with no backing music so that it was just the ASMR of cooking.

And all three of them hit totally different audiences and they all did super well.

And I was like, bro, get the bag.

Like, that's so smart.

That's the thing is that it's brilliant.

I mean, I can't knock it.

It's the same thing with the TikToks.

Like, they're clearly playing the game well.

It's just one of those things that

is

a diminishing return over time.

Like, you're clearly doing it.

You're playing it well.

But,

you know, if you keep uploading three videos, for example, like eight of the same TikTok.

It may not happen now and it may not happen next year, but eventually people will be like,

okay.

All right.

And they'll move on.

Yeah.

Like it's just, that's what's going to happen.

And so when you have a company like Ubisoft, for example, where for 25 years they've been slowly just making the same thing, people are like, all right, enough.

Yeah.

But, but the thing is, they made a bunch of money to make the same thing over and over and over again.

So,

you know, to them, they're like, well, every year we keep making money, but eventually it doesn't pay off.

That's what I'm

saying.

So I don't know.

It's the way of the industry, I suppose.

Yeah.

But yeah, shout out to people taking chances.

Speaking of taking a chance, I believe it was last week, I think you brought this up.

Okay.

The Holo Live.

Was this you?

There was, I was, I don't know.

I don't know who told me this.

The Holo Live vampire survivors game.

Was that you?

that might

someone said it was talked about on dropped frames you were on dropped frames right ah that's right look they all blend together they all blend together yes yes on dropped frames oh boy wait so what's it called it's a holo live game but it's called hollow cure okay and

They were talking about it because I was talking about how I was playing vampire survivors.

I was playing I even played Wedding Witch.

I was playing a bunch of different versions.

I was like, it turns out I really enjoy this genre, which I did not know I would ever.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

And so everyone's like, you got to play that.

And I was like, fine.

So I started, I downloaded, I think it's free too.

I downloaded Holocure.

And I was like,

the minute you jump in, it's like, there's a lot of characters.

I was like, I don't know who any of these people are.

I don't know who this little anime girl is.

I don't know what any of these people are.

And they're like, oh, no, they're like VTubers.

I'm like, yeah, okay.

Still doesn't mean I know who any of these people are, but like, all right, I'll play.

Sure.

I started playing, and it's really well done like it it it

honestly feels better than wedding witch which is even more funny to me and um

it is just straight up just all these different characters and they have synergies and you can like upgrade the characters very gotcha-y in some levels you're not paying for anything but it's like you can roll on some characters but instead of getting a new character you get like the upgraded version of one you have that kind of thing And you can, you know, spend the in-game money to buy upgrades and stuff.

Evampire Survivors.

It's like what it is.

Right.

But it is also just so steeped in what I assume is Hololive lore.

Like you are playing a character who has magic abilities and each one's different.

So like one girl looks like a little detective and she has a gun and it goes pew, pew, pew, but she also has a puppy dog that can join her and fight.

And I'm like, who the hell's that?

What's that?

How's that work?

I played this girl yesterday on stream just to show people.

I was like, guys, I love this game.

She shoots a tentacle.

I don't know who, I don't know what that tentacle is.

She shoots a tentacle, but then that tentacle shoots more tentacles.

And then

I was in the Holo Live offices fighting men who go

when they attack you.

I, there was a, there's like an Asian man who keeps popping up that I have to beat up.

I don't know who he is.

There's a, like, at the end, a giant chibi anime girl attacked me.

I was like, I don't know who that is.

There's weird.

All the creatures look like

that little guy who was, remember Car Captain Sakura, and she had like a little, like, hey, I'm the little guy.

Like, they look like that guy.

Okay.

I don't know what the hell that guy is.

They got everything about this.

I was just like, guys, I don't know what's happening.

I don't know why I'm playing a little girl who has tentacles for hair, but also shoots tentacles.

I don't know what this is.

Loved every minute of it.

It's the most confusing thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

I cannot explain it.

It's great.

We should try to get a HoloLive person on the show.

Sure.

I think that would be great.

I don't know anything about Hololive.

I literally know nothing.

Me neither.

I assume.

I assume I'm.

I'm super into the game.

I am.

I don't know who.

There's so many.

The best part is there's clearly like,

you know, when you talk to people who are fans of Critical Role and they talk to you about their favorite character from one of the three seasons, but there's so many characters.

Like, I don't know.

I have no context for what you're saying right now.

Same thing where this game has all these characters.

And when you go to gotcha game grab them there's like gen one gen two like uh the the cool kids the kid like there's all these different groups it's like i don't should i pick from one which is the one i need what who's the cool one right i have no answers

it's just it like it's just an incredible game and it blew my mind that i was i was like guys i love this i love this game but i don't i it might be my favorite vampire survivor.

Like, like, this is amazing.

And I think, and it's free.

Like a free game, that's incredible.

Yeah.

So

shout out to their shameless promotion and merchandising for that game because they're done with me.

Yeah, apparently it's done well.

Yeah.

I don't, again, I don't understand a damn thing that is happening in that game.

Like an enemy will show up.

A great example is I play, when he plays the girl who has the tentacles.

When you kill enemies, I've never seen this in any other.

The enemies turn into ghosts, and then they'll come towards you.

And if you eat them, you get like buffs or something.

And I'm like, is this part of this character's lore that she eats ghosts?

Or maybe,

like, what is the she has a magic book, and the book explodes the ground with hellfire or whatever.

I'm like, I don't know.

It's really a fan-made game.

It's not even like an official game.

It's incredible.

It's like so well done.

you know how

you know how i know that

hololive is like bigger than i'll ever get like

some dude out of kindness of his heart

was like i'm like i've been blessed i've been blessed to have some like very creative people make a uh

you know like little tribute things for us in the past where it's been like little mini games or on chilluminati we got two really fun like very short games made where we like go around, like point and click.

Love that stuff, cute, but never in my life have I seen someone take what is clearly a lot

of time.

There is no Jesse and Dodger version of this that I think can even equal, you know what I mean?

Like, right, clearly, their fandom is so big and widespreading.

They got like

there's passion put into this, like passion.

This dude has the talent to have made games for money, And he's like, please, I'm going to do this for free.

It's crazy.

So, you know, I mean, like,

yeah, I'm impressed.

All I'm saying is, look, all I'm saying is, for the people who have made little Jesse games over the years,

where's my HoloLive game?

Put me in.

Just go steal the source code.

Don't steal the source code.

Go don't steal the source code and just put me in there.

Just put me in.

Just boop, put me in.

You're talented.

Boop, put me in it.

I love that.

That's my hololive character.

Little JC, the hall live character.

Yep.

Yeah.

Done.

Sounds good to me.

Yep.

Yep.

Easy.

Just join holo.

That's that sounds like a lot of work.

That sounds

like a lot of work.

You just gotta, you just gotta be the

little ramen dog.

Yeah.

Forever.

No, I'm all right.

My mom would be like, Jesse, did we not love you enough?

What happened?

Why are you a ramen dog now?

That doesn't, what happened to you?

I have to explain that to them.

Sure.

You're off.

Yeah.

The struggle that we both have of our parents watching our content.

Although now I really want to promote,

I don't remember the full name of it.

I'd have to look it up, but I'm very lazy right now.

But there's a Chaluminati game that is really funny.

It is a point-and-click, like little silly adventure.

Big fan.

You can check it out.

It reminds you of the old school LucasArts games where you can move around and be like, I wonder what this is.

Very cool.

Love that stuff.

Yeah.

I was going to say, as a follow-up, shout out to my parents who texted me the other day to say that they, my dad, who does like still does not fully understand how my job works at all, I don't think,

saw my VTuber model for the first time and was mesmerized.

I was just like, how the fuck does this work?

Like,

like so bamboozled.

And I just love imagining my, my little hobbit dad just sitting on the couch like this,

just watching the TV like, what's going on here?

What is this?

What is this?

I know for a fact that that's how my parents react every time they see a VTube model.

They're like, What is this?

What the hell's going on here?

What's what's what's what's happening?

I get it.

It's it's it's like watching.

So Bernie Sanders was on with a bunch of streamers.

Okay.

And they 100% hit him with what I think was his first VTube model.

Bless his sweet soul for just taking it all in stride.

I would have been like, who the hell are you?

I got a bunch of people in a cartoon.

Who are you?

I would have have been who what is what is your what's your deal?

I would have had so many questions

Love it.

Yeah,

I just thought that was really funny that screenshots are great where it's just a bunch of like you streamers and then one single beautiful uh VTube, which is just

love it.

I love that.

Yeah, yeah.

Hey,

Collide.

Yes.

Question for you.

Yeah.

Have you watched any of

The Penguin yet?

No, I still haven't.

You gotta watch it.

We're trying to catch it.

We're trying to finish Shogun.

How did you not finish that?

I

was so pissed I had to wait.

I breezed through that show.

It made me so mad I had to wait weeks for it to end.

The show is great.

We just started watching it like

a couple weeks ago.

At least two weeks ago.

Yeah.

We normally only get through a couple of episodes of something per week.

Sure.

So unfortunately, the way that our sleep schedules overlap, about two episodes in, I'm like, I'm so fucking tired.

I'm like falling asleep, you know?

Sure.

But I don't want to miss any.

And I have a very bad, this won't surprise you at all.

I have a very bad track record with, if I'm like, don't worry about it.

I'm going to fall asleep, but you keep watching and I'll just catch up.

I won't.

I'll never catch up.

Sure.

Oh, yeah.

I get it.

The

anime that we're covering for anime cult right now, that we're going to be like recording for in like a week or so, is an anime called Solo Leveling.

It's got one season out.

It hasn't continued yet.

So we were like, let's just cover the first season.

And I went to look on our Crunchyroll account and it said that we had watched all of it.

And I was like, we didn't, though.

We only watched two episodes.

So I was like, Sam, what the fuck is this?

You watched the whole thing without me.

And he was like, Yeah, because you never caught up.

You fell asleep.

And I was like, No,

that's bullshit.

It wasn't.

The more I thought about it, the more I was like, No, that's absolutely what happened.

Because we tried to watch it together.

I fell asleep and was like, It's okay.

I'll catch up.

I'll watch that episode.

A week went by.

He was like, Did you catch up on solo leveling?

And I was like, Nah.

And then he gave up and watched the whole thing.

I can't fault him for that.

But I was like, he watched it without me.

But I'm the answer.

I'm the problem.

Actually, though.

Yeah,

I learned long ago that if I start something with someone,

then

I'm on their schedule.

Yeah.

So, which is why I don't start a lot with a lot of people.

Like, if I'm going to watch a show, I'm going to watch it on my own time.

And then if you want to watch it, I will watch it again with you.

But I'm not going to talk about it.

I don't want to, I'm not, but, oh, yeah, no, no, I'll sit there and just be like, oh, you fall asleep.

Okay, pause.

All right, go to bed.

We'll watch later.

I'm not, I don't want to, I'm not going to do that.

I'm like, yeah, no, I'm just going to start this on my own.

This is, I'm fine, I don't need to wait.

I have to have like a couple of things that are me things.

Like, I'm watching this by myself.

You can sit there and watch it with me if you want, but this is like, this is a me thing, right?

And then Sam and I will, at any given time, have like one, maybe two things that we're watching together.

But again, it's always slow going.

It's like a couple episodes a week, maybe, you know?

So if it's something that I want to just like devour, typically that's not the sort of stuff that Sam and I are watching together.

It's stuff that we're enjoying, but I'm not in a hurry to get through it, you know?

Yeah, I will

find a thing,

fixate on it, and then move on quickly.

So, you know, like I was saying with Shogun, it upset me that I had to wait week after week after week for it because I was like, just give me another episode.

Yeah, even with

like

Agatha all along is a, is a great example of this in that the show's fine.

Like it is, it's, it's a solid show.

It's not like something I would consider like my favorite version of Marvel, but not really all Marvel is.

However, the last episode was incredible.

Like maybe one of my favorite episodes I've seen of anything in a long time.

I was like, whoa, this is really well done.

And

I thought back to like, I'd probably be more forgiving on the series if it all came out at once and I got to sit there and watch it unfold and then get hit with like a really amazing episode.

I'd be like, this series is amazing because they keep making me wait week after week.

I'm like, really pissed.

I was like, okay, they've been on this.

Like, I just, if we could, but okay, I guess I'll wait till next week to get that answer.

Like, um,

without spoiling too much, this week was like a huge payoff to a thing that's been kind of a mystery the entire time.

And I was like, Yeah,

so I love that, but again, wish I had it earlier instead of waiting multiple.

I was like,

Okay, guess I'll wait for next week.

And that's really tough to do when they're trying to tell, like, um,

a thing that's classic TV, Jesse.

Oh, no, I'm aware, but classic TV was different in that

everything tried to have a payoff for the episode, like a little bit of a payoff, because they didn't think you would watch the whole thing or you'd come in later to a season or whatever.

Modern day episodic TV is we made a movie and we cut it down into eight episodes

and so some things are just you'll watch it you'll watch a show for like two episodes and nothing happens like it's a setup for something that's going to happen in the future and you're like

okay well

great

and that like that makes me so mad like that's a a big problem with a lot of you know streaming service TV is that it's a lot of nothing happens, nothing happens, then something amazing happens.

You're like, wow, that's incredible.

And again, it feels like it was designed to be released all at once.

You could watch three episodes and be like, oh, which I think honestly is the brilliance of what Arcane did.

And to some extent, I absolutely think that the Critical Role show is doing it where they release three episodes at a time.

So you can get like an arc.

Yeah.

Totally fine with that.

It actually is really, really well done.

And I'm glad that it's like, okay, we're going to do a setup episode and like a setup episode and then a climax and they they've done that uh pretty well at least those are the two shots I can think of right now but like it's happened before and I definitely feel like we should get more like

a great example is in Penguin every episode gives you both an ending to what the objective was that episode but also a little bit of like, but next time it's going to get even crazier.

And that's why I think it works so well as a TV show week to week, where I'm pleased with every episode i'm like damn that was amazing also oh my god next episode is gonna be crazy instead of right okay well like that was good but next episode is gonna be amazing you know

yeah it's it's more like is this is this sort of following more of a procedural format where there's an overarching thing but but there's also a small thing per episode

Yeah, I was thinking about that a lot actually after I finished mouthwashing, oddly enough, because I was thinking to myself,

mouthwashing, I don't know if it would have hit as hard if I hadn't have done it all in one go.

Right.

And I do think that more stuff media-wise is being made with the intention of you binging it.

But we had like this weird, and maybe we're still in it.

There's this kind of strange in the middle area that we're in where like

things will be released every week, but

retroactively, like looking back, you're like, that would have been so much better if I could have binged it.

I felt that way about, they did a lot of like slow, methodical setup shit with the very last season of Hannibal.

If you've watched Hannibal, you know exactly what I'm talking about, where there were like two or three episodes there where Jeannie and I were looking at each other like, what the fuck is this show doing?

You know, and it was getting to a point where we were like, I don't know.

I'm not getting any out of as a viewer, it feels like I'm not getting any kind of a payoff here to like watch this show, right?

And then finally we had an episode that that went, oh my God,

I see.

Okay, yeah, yes, fantastic, amazing, right?

But there were three weeks there where we were so fucking over it, like just like not enjoying ourselves at all.

And if we had been able to just like binge those episodes, it might have been better, you know, instead of just feeling like we were sort of spinning our wheels, wasting our time with a show that was maybe like diving into a hill.

Yeah, it's uh, I see in chat, and I actually agree with this

everyone hating on the the Lord of the Rings show on on Amazon like people just destroying that show but I was like it's I don't I don't know I don't think it's that bad but I think it's because I binged watched

instead of watching week to week I can absolutely see how watching week to week would be like, no, this show sucks.

Because there's some episodes where I'm like, what the hell even happened?

Right.

Like,

it was, it's not a great show but binge watching i was like i'm following all the plot lines i see what's happening i i get this like all right yeah let's let's keep going and i enjoyed some of it like some of it's like i said before some of it's still terrible like all the humans They could edit out every human bit of content from that show and I'd be so happy.

Like, I just don't care about the human storyline.

I'm like, yo, I hate all y'all.

All the humans, you trash.

But the elves and the dwarves and stuff, I'm like, I love this.

I love watching the bad guy be bad.

Like, this is fun.

So.

Can I tell you?

Yeah, I don't know.

I had not seen a single fan edit, a single, like a single thing for Rings of Power.

And then suddenly I started getting fan edits of.

Sauron?

No.

Oh.

Durin and Elrond.

Yeah, oh, yeah.

The Doran Elrond friendship is, I actually love it.

I don't give a shit what anyone says.

It's amazing.

Yeah.

It's my favorite part of the entire show.

And I don't care.

And a lot of people are like, it's trash.

I'm like, all right, that's fine.

Oh, yeah.

It's again, it's not a great show, but I absolutely am enjoying it, but I will not watch week to week.

Like, it's one of those things where I just, I absolutely see the flaw in that there's some things that just

would make me go crazy.

Like, there is no mystery.

You can have both.

You can be like, no, this show isn't amazing, but I'm enjoying myself.

Yeah.

It's both.

That's every CW show that ever existed.

Exactly.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

If I had to look people in the eye and give them a list of shows that I have enjoyed the hell out of, but also say, and I think it's amazing and everyone should watch it, I could not do that.

Let me stress to everyone, I have on this show multiple times said, you need to watch Are You the One Season Six?

That's not a good show.

But that is one of the best things I've ever seen my time on.

But it's amazing and you should watch it, though.

It's not a good show.

It's terrible.

It's terrible trash TV, but like, oh my God, love every bit of it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Goodness.

I don't know.

I'm slowly

over all the streaming services, but then I'm reminded things like, well, you could either watch what we do in the shadows on

like FX at a certain time during the week, or it's all on Hulu.

I'm like,

god damn it.

Like that kind of stuff.

It's like, yeah, I could watch Always Sunny or watch 16 seasons on like that kind of stuff.

I'm like, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

That's my,

I don't like it, but this is the world we live in now, I guess.

Yeah.

If you were going to make a show.

In today's climate, how would you release it?

Oh, I would want to release it all at the same time.

The problem is i've learned that that like

sometimes you're unless you're a platform where it's designed for that you're you are hurt for it like there was a thing i did as a test on youtube where i we recorded a bunch of scary game squad and then i released all of them in separate episodes in one day

and youtube was like

no

and so the drop from episode one to episode you know how like usually if an episode one happens the drop right in the four episodes this thing had it was like first episode, great.

Second episode, all right, normal drop.

Third, fourth episode, we're not even going to send those to people.

I was like, cool, cool, nice, good to learn.

And

yeah, I hate that stuff.

I hate that the system's designed to not do that, but also designed to get people to watch as much as possible.

So it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We want people to watch, but not your stuff.

Like, okay.

Right.

Cool.

You know.

I would, I would release it all at once if I could, and I would make it like, you know, nice 30 to 40 minute episodes.

And they, you know, and it would be, you know, depending on the show, like I could, I could probably pound out a good show in eight episodes.

I could do it.

I thought I was thinking

when Minecraft first took off

and

the standard meta was to just release a 10 minute video of Minecraft.

Yep.

And be like, see you guys guys next time.

Looking back, I'm like, what the fuck did they even do in 10 minutes?

Like a 10-minute video?

That's nothing.

But that was,

that was so common.

I mean, that's why the Oxcast, I think, was brilliant, is that they made a story in that 10-minute span, and then they kept releasing these stories.

And so it was like, yeah,

good work.

And now we're now in the era of Jesse

releases three-hour videos of Scary Game Squad because F it.

Yeah.

I'd rather release one video that's three hours long than four videos that's, you know, 40 minutes apiece because that's the meta now.

The longer you watch, the better it is.

And so now you get big ass videos.

Enjoy.

I do love a big ass video.

I was going to just leave it at.

I do love a big ass.

I do love a big ass.

Who doesn't?

By the way,

big ass.

Yes.

Hold on.

I don't know.

I'm going to send this to you.

I want you to describe it to people.

So the other day,

I don't want to show this on stream on dice because i'm not sure what the i'm not sure what the legalese of this is oh but um

yesterday or a few days ago i was look i might have had an edible or two and i was looking at museum art and i came across this and was like i've never been so turned on by a statue in my entire life i was like is it because i'm high right now or do i

is this the hottest statue i've ever seen it's um it's a headless stone statue it looks like it's been broken at the thighs before.

So there's a big crack

on the thighs and a diagonal.

The outfit is very reminiscent of the female character.

I can't remember her name, but the main girl in Road to Eldorado.

Sure.

Exceptional.

Except topless.

Big bedonkers, topless with a necklace going in between the tatas.

And then arms are missing.

The arms have been broken off.

Head's been broken off.

Arms have been broken off.

It looks like feet have been broken off.

So it's just like...

Again,

it is a headless, armless statue.

But, like, for some, I'm like, this might be

the most beautiful statue I've ever seen.

It's like hilarious.

I'm like, god damn.

It was like, this statue is fit.

I was like, I've never seen a statue like this before.

Like, man, it is.

You know how you see a lot of like Greco-Roman statues and things like that?

And it's like the female form, like that kind of stuff.

Sure.

This is not that.

This is like an anime, like

big booby statue.

It's comical, this statue.

I was like, I don't know where they, like, I don't know where they got this design from, but it's a good-ass design.

I was like, whoa.

Both of the boobs are broken, by the way.

Oh, I'm aware.

One of them.

Like, the whole front of it is just, like, rubble, and the other one is chopped in half.

Like,

it's a mess, this whole thing.

Oh, agreed.

That's the, there is, it's pure shame.

I'm not even gonna, I'm not even gonna deny that, like, again, I questioned everything when i when i saw it's like guys

am i just really high right now or is this the hottest thing i've ever seen my entire like that's where i was like guys i

i'm down bad for this statue and it doesn't even it doesn't even have parts parts are missing and this i was like oh boy i got problems

yeah

yeah i love art baby

big fan big art fan big fan of art i'll never like my favorite art trip i love going to museums i love looking at things but mostly because if i go with friends i have like a really good time at museums sure and my favorite

museum sometime anyways keep going i would love to you live near some of the biggest best museums in the world i know and no one will go with me so next time you're here love to go let's do a museum crawl

one of my favorite things was going to the Chicago Metropolitan Art Museum.

I think that's what it's called with Crendor.

Oh my God.

Oh dukes.

I'll never forget going through the like medieval art wing.

Like, first off, we saw, I, you know what?

I didn't see another sexy statue there.

It was a statue from Thailand, and it was like a big booty woman, but what, but she's sitting, but her ass like hangs over the edge of the platform.

And I was like, damn.

Anyway,

shout out to art.

But

my favorite part is...

is if you go to the um

uh like medieval art area where you see all the different like you know little baby Jesuses or little tiny like

one it's hilarious to me that art in the Renaissance used to be like a baby was just a tiny man that's one of my favorite things in the world it's just a little tiny man and

cherub art a grown adult face on babies is so funny yes or uh cats and dogs that just look a little bit like people that's always funny to me but there's um

there was every time you see cherub art stop and look at the scene because it's always my favorite is like there was one where it was a woman and she like had kind of you know like one boob out

and the cherub Like there was a bunch of people in this scene, but there's like a lady with just one boob was like the focus But there's a cherub and it looks like he was flying by and then he saw half a boob and like put on the air brakes because you can see him go like oh It's hilarious.

I laughed so hard And I was like, I know that's not the intent, but it looks like this little cherub saw a boob and was like,

hold up.

I love it.

I always think it's so interesting to watch.

There are people who exclusively make videos talking about like the symbolism in different paintings.

And it's so fascinating to me.

Like

everything in those old like Renaissance paintings had a meaning.

Sure.

And so they'll show you a painting that's like a lady holding a dog.

with a dead rose in a pot and a man over her shoulder.

And then they'll be like, this was the most salacious painting of this age.

And let me explain to you why.

And I'm like, tell me everything.

What do you mean?

There's a dog.

Is it the dog?

I love it.

I love, I love, not only is that fun, but then taking it to the next level and going to a modern art museum where it's the exact same conversation.

It's like, these three lines.

are salacious.

The first line represents the masculine, the second line, the feminine, but the third line represents the trend of morality throughout history.

They're like, what?

What are you, like, huh?

Don't you see?

It's like, no, I don't see, but I love it.

Please continue.

There was one where at the Broad downtown in LA, it was an art exhibit where it was just like beautiful paintings, but then some dude painted Batman and all of them.

I was like, yep.

And everyone was like, this is Batman standing on his yacht, but he's alone.

There's no one else on his yacht.

That is the loneliness that Batman feels.

And I was like, hell yeah, it is.

This is reminding me of, there are people that, especially around this time of year, actually, will go to like, you know, Goodwill or other thrift stores, find old paintings that have been there forever, take them home and then paint little ghosts in them.

Like Pokemon.

I've seen Pokemon for one of them.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And the number of people that will be like,

ruin that painting.

I can't believe you would do this.

That was art.

And now what is it?

You know, and the conversation that comes up of like,

is it not art anymore?

Because I put a tiny ghost on it?

Or like,

you know, it's, it's interesting.

Dukes, I think you would love this Alan Wake expansion.

The newest one.

Honestly.

So like.

The subtext of the entire thing.

Come back around full circle.

Sorry, keep going.

The subtext of the entire thing is what is art?

And you have two people, the husband and wife who are trying to science art because the way the the evil presence in alan wake works is that it sort of searches for artists and then uses them to like try to escape and they're trying to figure out okay well what kind of artists and so there's it's so funny because there's a lot of reports and things to find and discover in the game where it's like okay so what what is art all right what we're gonna do is we're going to like try to list out what art is so like paintings obviously, and movies, sure.

And like they keep going through the list and like, all right, but like woodworking?

What about philosophy?

Is philosophy art?

Like if I, like, it's all these, like them trying to figure out what art is and quantify art.

And one of the characters is trying to make like pseudo AI.

and trying to determine if that's art.

And they're trying to figure out

what constitutes art?

Is it about the artists?

Well, who says you're an artist?

Like, how do you become an artist?

Like that kind of thing.

And the best part about it is there's a scene where you discover discover a wall of all of these previously written

Alan Wake copies where they try to get these old systems to recreate Alan Wake artwork, which is the books.

And it's hilarious.

It is like the best spoof.

I don't want to spoil it because just read it.

It's so funny.

But it's like the best spoof of like AI learning models where they're just so like hilariously bad.

And it's so well done.

Like, everything about the idea of what constitute art and how does art work, because they're trying to like solve a mystery.

And the mystery is, how does this thing decide who it chooses?

And it's one of the

best parts of it.

Yeah, it's, it's a solid roast of AI, but also a introspective look onto what actually constitutes an artist or what is art.

And again, in the game, they just list off every possible thing that could be art.

And they're like, all right, it's, you know what, it's like that

billboard that PETA put out that I think is like, it's pretty interesting that people

online have been like doing this, but there's a, there's a billboard they put out and it has all these animals and a line underneath.

And it's like, where do you draw the line at what you eat?

Right.

Like, that's the PETA message.

But people online have been like, right here.

This is, this is the line for me.

And they like, well, draw it and be like, I'm not going to eat that horse, but I will like, you know, that pig, I'm going to eat that pig.

And so they'll draw a line of where they want want.

People like actually drawing their line.

Yeah, they'll take the image and then draw a line on it and be like, yeah, that's where I stop.

It's the same thing here in this game where they're just like, what is art?

And so they have all these things that are like, well, I think it's like just these things or just this.

Right.

Absolutely.

It's super interesting to see what they're trying to do with that.

And

yeah, I think it also goes to, you know, show kind of where they're coming from when you play those games because, like,

it's pure artistry.

Those games are

let me stress again for anyone who's not aware in

Alan Awake 2 the original base game not only are there musical numbers but there's literally you can just watch it a 15 minute art house crazy film Sam Lake made that you can just you could leave completely ignore it or you can stay there and watch the entire thing and it's one of the trippiest craziest things I've ever seen my entire life and it's just in the game you don't even have to look at it it just exists and they made like I was like this

this is what i'm here for this is what i want in my video games let's get weird let's have fun so

big fan big fan how long is allen week two

i'm sure i've asked you this before but um that's a solid question i guess it depends on so there's a lot of uh forest and you can like explore the forest and uh like get lost in it and find little things and explore.

So like there's side quests and little things you can discover, but like sub 20 hours to do all of it, I think.

Okay,

but you can put it on easy mode and just breeze through if you want to cheese it.

On normal, I didn't think it was that hard.

It's just one of those things where, again,

you'll be like out in the woods and you'll hear, you'll see nothing, but you'll hear like

in the background.

You're like, nah, dude, nah.

That's the same thing with these damn art monsters in the new DLC where you're like walking down.

It's like,

in the background, you're like, what the shit?

What is that?

Stop.

Oh, the sound sound design is terrifying they're monsters for that it's really well done yeah there's so much to play dude i get it i understand i still haven't i still haven't played more metaphor

uh

i mean

i i completely understand i have so many things i mean especially this week coming down the pipeline yeah actually i found one game that you'll love i found one game you'll love the rest is is mainstream stuff but i found a very good dodger game Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

We'll talk about that whenever you're ready to get into the news.

I'm ready.

The only thing that I am excited for currently is Sonic X-Shadow Generations, which is apparently overwhelmingly positively reviewed.

I have to

rose as Shadow.

Coming in strong.

I'm so excited.

A good Sonic game?

Don't play with me.

Apparently, they added a bunch of Shadow Story, which is hilarious to me.

They were like, guys, we need to really flesh out shadow's story.

He's not just a hedgehog with a gun, okay?

Everybody wants to kiss him.

They have to do something with him.

They gave him Keanu's voice in that shadow.

Isn't voiced by Keanu.

I'm pretty sure it is

in this one.

I'm pretty sure they brought Keanu in.

In the game?

Let's see.

I'm pretty sure they did.

Not in the game.

I'm

pretty sure they did.

Sonic X Shadow Generations.

Oh, dlc only never mind keanu dlc is in december never mind wait till december oh yeah movie pack dlc will be bonus content with keanu reeves voicing shadow i want that oh man i want that you can dlc is set in tokyo apparently

i love it damn i'm so disappointed i really wanted i i would have been like i'll play it right now but i got i'll wait till december which is fine by me

Yeah, let's yo, let's do the news.

What do we got?

What do we got, bud?

Well,

hey.

Hey, everyone.

First off, let's start with the fact that it's Warcraft's 30th anniversary.

Yes, the game's been around 30 years,

and they're going to do a whole stream about it.

They're doing a whole thing, but of course, because

Blizz can't do anything just good.

They have to do one thing insane, and that is the release of a $90 mount, which

bless.

Okay.

That was a mount that you had to, it required a lot of in-game currency for.

And now they're like, F it.

You can buy it.

And

it's a lot of bucks to get that.

So people are not pleased with that.

But yeah, 30 years of Warcraft.

So we're talking like not just WoW, but also all the games that came before.

Right.

Yeah.

It should.

5 million gold.

A lot of gold.

It's a lot of gold.

A lot of gold.

And so they're charging a bunch of money.

Bless their sweet souls.

I wouldn't buy that.

But

yeah.

Yeah.

I,

you know, again, every time Blizzard tries to do something, where it's like, let's honor something, there's always like a weird like money thing to it.

It's like, for 30 years of our game, we'd like to celebrate by taking more of your money.

It's a weird vibe.

Yeah.

I think for some reason, it can't be like, here's a gift from us.

Thanks for supporting us for so long.

It has to be

every year they'll do gifts.

every year they'll do gifts.

The thing is, the funny thing is the one time they did like a real physical thing was you had to have been subscribed for the entirety of 15 years.

Oh.

If you missed one month, you didn't get the statue.

Oh, damn.

I never liked that.

I always thought, like,

if you subscribed on day one, you were still playing.

Even if you missed one month or whatever, like you should have got that statue.

For sure.

If you've been in some way supporting at the beginning and even still now then it should count yeah yeah i uh i didn't get one because i after uh miss a pandaria i stopped playing for like a year and then came back to it afterwards and they were like sorry bitch i was like fine yeah all right so and yeah but like Every once in a while,

they'll give you things every year for the anniversary and stuff.

But again, it's always a weird vibe to be like, we're celebrating with great deals for you.

Okay.

Yeah.

It's the equivalent of like a mattress sale on President's Day.

Like, yeah, all right.

It's a weird vibe, but like, okay, I'm not going to, whatever.

Then

I hope you're all excited because we have got

some interesting news in the way of Bellatro, a game that I have never once played, but watched about 20 hours of other people play.

I don't, I've never found it very fun

for some reason.

I think it's amazing to watch.

I, watching skilled people play, I'm like, oh my God.

Oh, my God.

Look at those combos.

Octo, very good at it.

Well, Bellatro has a new DLC of four new skin deck skins, I guess is what they would be.

Okay.

Cyberpunk, Binding of Isaac, Slay the Spire, and Stardew Valley.

So you can get cards that have all your favorite characters like Isaac and

one of the townspeople from Stardew

that I don't know their names.

Looks very neat.

I will say, where's the monster prom one?

Where's the monster prom cards?

Come on now.

What's up with that?

What's going on there?

In kind of sad, interesting news,

I'm not sure where to go with this.

A game that I loved that I don't know that anyone else played but me.

Prince of Persia lost crown.

The dev team behind it is reportedly disbanded.

Ubisoft said, like, no, no, no, it's not, they just moved them to a different team because the production cycle ended for the game.

But that just means there's not going to be a sequel is what is what that means.

I'm really bummed about that, to be honest.

Yeah, I love, love that game.

Prince of Persia, the lost crown was very good.

It was clear that they were in a rush story-wise because some of this, like, there's straight up a character in the beginning who shows up and then never shows up again.

And I was like, oh, yeah.

They addressed it in the DLC.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, like, like,

there's stuff that happens in the main game that they need to flesh out in future things.

And now they're like, no, we're not doing that anymore.

It's such a good game.

I oh, I'm so

good.

I still think about the fight against the

plant queen, whatever the hell her name is, where she rides the dog.

That's one of those visually stunning fights.

If you, I don't remember the name of that fight.

Just if anyone wants to take the time, please, please go look up that scene.

It's like

forest, like Prince of Persia, Lost Crown Forest Boss, or whatever.

One of the coolest fights I've ever seen.

Like, just beautiful.

There's the whole like,

I don't even know what you would call that style where they fight, but it does the shadow of like the red background.

Kiana the Forest Queen.

Yes.

Thank you.

There's like the shadow.

There's like your character's in shadow, but there's a red background.

You get that like really cool fight effect.

Just like so many cool moments that game, and they straight up just

are like, nah, no more of that.

And it's really upsetting because it honestly, a lot of Ubisoft's more indie-focused games, obviously not indie, it's it's Ubisoft, but a lot of the more indie-focused games, I've loved like uh, you know, Valiant Hearts and all those different things.

Like, they're just so well done, and then they're like, nah, screw it, we're gonna make another Assassin's Creed.

It's like, all right, cool.

I was really hoping we'd get a follow-up after that game because I thought it was so good.

So, yeah, this is insanely disappointing.

Again, there's so many like little story bits that they very clearly are like setting up for something to happen in the future.

And I was like, cool.

Can't wait to see where this goes.

Nope.

Nope.

It was like a Netflix show.

They canceled that shit.

And I was like, oh, okay.

Well, that's fun.

That's neat.

Interestingly enough,

turns turns out in the world of social media, since we talked about that a little bit today, that

Nintendo Switch is doing some online playtesting.

And one of the conditions of joining the playtest is you're not allowed to share any information about it.

And yet, people are streaming it online.

So I just, it reminds me every time that I go to any event.

anywhere for any game people are like please do not show anything early do not talk about this early do not do do anything early.

And then, like, within days, someone has released a video.

Like, here's my thoughts.

It's like,

what?

Yeah.

Okay.

Like, I guess you're not getting invited back.

Like, good job on the scope, though.

Right?

Is like, sure, I guess you got to be the first guy out there with info, but like, they are never going to trust you with info again.

Like, was that worth it?

I've never understood that.

I don't know what the deal is, but yeah, like

it's weird to me that I think

people will, you know, when they like get invited to an event, they'll just talk like really positive about a thing because they want to be invited back.

But there's a total flip side where people go to an event just to be like, heh,

I'm going to show all the information early.

I'm like, what is, they're both stupid, but like, what a weird, I don't know, man.

Yeah.

So, yeah, I guess there's footage out there of of

the Switch stuff now.

So that's neat.

Speaking of playtesting, if you live in Boston, I believe I'm going to look this up, but I think it's just Boston or

Vancouver.

CD Project is looking for participants for unique opportunities, as they say, to influence the development of future games.

So if you're in the area, you can playtest stuff.

So Boston is where I believe they're making Project Ryan, which is the next cyberpunk.

And

yeah, I guess they're trying to get testing done.

So, if you live in those areas,

they're asking for you.

They're asking.

So,

give that a go, I guess.

Sick, yeah.

And in the world of entertainment, in the world of cool stuff out there, I guess Amazon's live-action Yakuza series started yesterday.

And the first three episodes are out.

I don't know a damn thing about it.

I haven't seen any of it.

I'll give it a shot.

But

that is a thing that exists now.

So we shall see.

But I didn't even know that was out.

Yeah, I don't know what the backstory.

It sucks, but I will be watching.

Well, there you go.

Now we know.

All right.

It sucks, but I'll watch every episode.

And then in the world of releases.

Obviously, Life is Strange.

Double Exposure is the 29th.

And then immediately afterwards is Dragon Age, The Vailguard Vailguard on the 31st.

And both of those are big.

They'll be huge.

You know, I hope to find time to play either of them.

Maybe even get Dodger to play Double Exposure.

I'm going to dress for us to play Double Explosure.

Explosure.

I would too.

Explosure.

That's what we play.

Explosure.

But there's one other game that I'm going to put on your radar.

Okay.

Called Ghost Town Pumpkin Fest.

Yes.

Sorry.

Explain.

Do you know this?

Do you know this game?

I do know about this.

Yes.

Please explain it to the world.

You might have more specific information than I do.

But

correct me if I'm wrong as I go.

Okay.

It's a game where it is a short,

like seasonal MMO in which everyone's a ghost.

Yep.

It will only exist for the Halloween season, and then the servers will go away.

Yep.

And you are just a ghost in a little town hanging out with other ghosts playing games

in this one not only the little mini things to do but the whole thing is a pumpkin pumpkin carving competition.

That's what it is where every one of the ghosts carves a pumpkin and then you put it in the town and then it is judged and then given awards based on which pumpkin carving is the best.

That's the game.

It exists for exactly one little season for for Halloween and then shuts down.

And so this is, you're just pumpkin carving.

It's the people who made a short hike, I think.

Is it?

I think so.

Amazing.

It's so cute.

I love that.

I love like, I love things that are intended to exist in like a small space, you know?

It's like, this is, this is a thing that isn't going to be around forever, you know?

It's just a thing to experience.

I think that's cute.

And sometimes they work out great and sometimes they're a mess, but it's nice that people are trying to do them.

And this one just looks so cute.

It has the same vibe as that fishing game you were talking about, except you're just logging in to carve a pumpkin.

And then you can walk around town and look at other people's pumpkins.

Yeah.

And that's it.

Again, if we're asking, it is called Ghost Town Pumpkin Fest.

Very cute.

I believe it's on itch.io, the old itch.io.

The old itch.io.

The old itch.io.

And that is the noose.

Well done, my dude.

Claps and snaps.

I can't snap with this hand.

I feel like it would be more impressive if I could like snap, snap, snap, snap, snap, clap.

I could pretend.

It's like saying watermelon, watermelon when you're in choir.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's a good visual bit.

No audio for anyone just listening.

For those of you who have never been in a situation where you had to sing in front of people, occasionally you will be told by the person who is teaching you what to do that if you lose your train of thought or don't know what's going on for a second, you can just mouth watermelon

and then it'll generally to the viewer look like you know what's going on.

This doesn't work quite as well if you are in one of the groups in the choir because it's all split up by like vocal range right if you're in one of the groups that only has like two or three people like i was

if one person drops out and is like watermelon watermelon watermelon watermelon very noticeable can i ask you i know you've been taking singing lessons yes would you grace us all with a song really quickly just any song doesn't matter it can be anything Okay, ready?

I just want to test this.

Okay.

I'm a buff baby that can dance like a man.

I can shake them my fanny.

I can shake them my can.

I'm a tough tootin baby and I'll punch you your buns.

Punch you your buns.

I can punch you your buns.

And if you're an evil witch, I will punch you for funs.

Did it work?

Chat, do we have confirmation that it looked like I was singing?

Did it look like Jesse was singing that?

Did I?

Did I?

To me, not at all.

To me, did not look like it at all.

But was that

nobody?

I think you got to blend in with a crowd of singers, maybe.

All right.

Yeah, maybe I should have tried to watermelon to the beat instead of just saying watermelon, watermelon over and over again.

Watermelon, watermelon, watermelon, right?

Maybe.

I don't know.

I don't know.

There's a lot of tongue action when I say watermelon.

Yeah, true.

And I feel like that's too much tongue action for what you were singing because I was like,

look at that.

That's too much tongue.

I'm a buff baby that can dance like a man.

Not nearly enough tongue action.

That's

not nearly enough tongue.

Too much tongue.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, well, we tried.

We've learned a thing today.

Yeah.

We will try this again another time.

We myth-bustered this, and that is plausible.

We put it out on the Gits Real.

This is on the same level as will my eyeballs pop out of my head if I sneeze and keep my eyes open.

Exact same level.

Same level.

Yep, yep.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We'll do a crossover someday.

We'll get those guys on geekenders.

Adam, is it true that if you say watermelon, watermelon, like

we tested it, but like, we're not the scientists, you know?

We don't have a science background.

Yeah.

Oh, my goodness.

Fantastic.

Hey, Jesse.

Y'all?

What are you up to this week, dude?

What's your life like?

Oh, boy.

I'm going to try and play some more metaphor, try to get that done.

For those of you who haven't seen Fear the Spotlight, what an incredible game.

I don't want to spoil that.

It's an amazing horror game, but not jump scares.

Just like a very solid horror narrative about two girls in high school and a giant spotlight man.

That's all I'm going to say.

Okay.

I discovered when you play it, there's like a whole...

other story and so that will be on monday for people who are interested in more scary game squad that'll be a thing and uh yeah, more metaphor.

And then

I guess on the 31st, whatever day that is, Friday, I don't know.

I'll probably either that day or the next do Dragon Age.

But that'll be something we talk about next week, probably.

Yeah, I'll give it a shot.

I have no idea.

But yeah, just a lot of stuff.

Honestly, to be honest, if you want to know what's probably going to happen, about 50 more hours of Hollow Cure.

Save the fans.

I love that game.

I can can tell, dude.

I just, something about it.

I'm going to have to play it, apparently.

I don't know anything happening, and I love it.

That just says a lot.

I'm like, I don't know what this is.

I don't know how to do it.

That does say a lot, honestly.

That's like a really good...

If you're getting thrown neck deep into the lore and you're like, I'm still having a great time.

Yeah, I don't know what's going on, but like, it plays

so well.

Like, it is fun to play.

Right.

Okay.

Hot dog.

Yeah, what are you up to this week?

I don't know.

Maybe I'll play that.

Maybe I'll play the Spotlight Man game.

Oh, my God.

You love it.

Maybe under five hours to do everything.

Okay.

I'm not sure what the time is, but it's like

it's a solid game.

It's Plumhouse's first horror game that they're releasing in their

indie horror spotlight thing.

Big fan.

Love all the stuff.

Awesome.

Okay.

Yeah.

Maybe I'll, maybe I'll play that.

Hell yes.

Yeah.

I really want to play While We Wait here, which is like only a two-hour game, so I'll probably be doing that at some point this week.

Our odd taxi episode of Anime Cult, Anime Covult.

Episode just went up on all the podcasty things.

If you would like to listen to that,

and

I think that's about it for

new stuff going on with me.

If you are watching this live, Jessup and I are going to

play some of of the Jackbox survey stuff with chat after this episode is done.

So that VOD will exist, you know, somewhere for people to watch later if you'd like to.

But otherwise, yeah, speaking of VODs, GeekEnders always exists on youtube.com/slash Jesse Cox.

We are on all of the podcasty things.

And

I think that's it.

Is there anything else you need to do?

I was like, and, and?

And

nothing.

Nothing.

I got nothing.

I got nothing.

Beetlejuice, Betelgeuse, Betelgeuse.

Oh, no.

God, I wish I knew who this artist was.

Maybe I shouldn't even mention it if I don't know the name of the artist.

But there's a person who's been doing comics that are...

the three Betelgees like interacting with each other.

The musical Beetlejuice, movie Beetlejuice, and cartoon show Beetlejuice.

And they're all, you don't think about how different they are.

They're totally different.

All three are completely different.

Completely different characters.

It's so funny.

This person is very talented and like really highlights their differences.

And God, I wish I knew who the artist was.

But go look it up.

It's fantastic.

Anyways.

Hey, have a great week.

Have a safe week.

It's going to be Halloween and all of that sort of stuff coming up here.

So yeah, have a safe, fun, lovely time.

Dress up, be merry, etc.

If you're somewhere that celebrates it, we will be back.

We'll be back doing the dang thing.

So

we do.

We'll see you then.

Remember that Jesse Cox 200,000 challenge.

I'm still waiting to get that tattoo.

It's up to you to make it happen.

Absolutely.

100%.

We'll see you next time, gang.

Bye-bye.

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