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Speaker 2 There's a couple of things that I want to get to right away. There's three things that I'm going to try to squeeze in this hour.

Speaker 2 I don't know if I can make it, but one is what happened to X, the attack on X yesterday. Who did it?

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Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 Let me start with X here.

Speaker 2 So yesterday there was a major,

Speaker 2 massive cyber attack on X.

Speaker 2 Shut things down for

Speaker 2 quite a bit. Musk came out and said it has all been traced to the Ukrainian area.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Now this is

Speaker 2 very complex and really important that we figure this out. These are spoofed

Speaker 2 IP addresses and they all pointed to Ukraine. Now

Speaker 2 I guess Musk is saying, you know,

Speaker 2 he's part of the Trump administration and there's an opposition to U.S. aid for Ukraine and their fight against Russia.
But that doesn't, to me, that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 I mean, Zelensky was really stupid when he was in the White House, but I don't think he's this stupid. Okay.

Speaker 2 Alexey Svet,

Speaker 2 who is an expert on this,

Speaker 2 he says,

Speaker 2 I mean, Ukraine is trying to get us to not pull our CIA and our intelligence off of the field. That would be just stupid.
Larry Kudlow was on with Musk yesterday, and he suggested that

Speaker 2 Russia might be framing Ukraine. So here's what happened.
The attack hit. Thousands of users were cut off from X.

Speaker 2 Now, after that happened, a third group came in. The pro-Hamas group, Dark Storm.
They claimed to be the attackers in giving the DDOS attack on X.

Speaker 2 They have targeted the UAE's Ministry of Defense and LAX, if you remember that, when that system went down recently. So they have some cyber muscles.

Speaker 2 Now, Musk said it was a resource-heavy hit from, and I'm quoting him, from a large coordinated group and or country.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 how is this happening and what does it mean? Well, X is obviously a huge hub for raw, unfiltered voices. You disrupt it.
You choke free speech, the only real free speech, I think, in the world.

Speaker 2 I don't believe that it's Ukraine. For pro-Hamas,

Speaker 2 I guess it could be perceived as a strike against, you know, Musk's alignment with Trump or Israel. But it's really more destabilizing.

Speaker 2 You destabilize X and you start to sow the seeds of chaos, distrust. It weakens the platform that is really shaping and responsible for global change and discourse.

Speaker 2 So who did it? Ukraine has motive,

Speaker 2 but little logic on this. Why drive the U.S.
even further away? It doesn't make sense to me. If you want to bet on the Ukraine thing, I would put my money on Russia.
I mean,

Speaker 2 they have built these, you know, these cyber hack shops in the basements of all these russian you know 20 somethings mom i need another mother i need another sandwich uh you know kind of there in their basement in their underpants um

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 it

Speaker 2 it fits with the way they handle things pinning the blame on ukraine to try to get us to break away from ukraine i mean this is this is how stupid everybody is they're like donald trump see i told you he was in bed with russia no this is is negotiation.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 The pro-Hamas group has the claim, the history, but this is

Speaker 2 a scale that

Speaker 2 really appears at this point to only be able to be pulled off if you have state backing.

Speaker 2 Now, let me throw something else in that is possible.

Speaker 2 A rival tech Titan.

Speaker 2 or a wildcard nation.

Speaker 2 What happens with a DDoS attack is is it floods servers with traffic, and usually that's with botnets.

Speaker 2 And they hijack a site with this, with these botnets, and they are, I mean, it's just wave after wave after wave. This is all done electronically.

Speaker 2 Thousands of bots. To get that done, you need a pretty sophisticated command system, know-how, how to dodge the defenses of X, which I would imagine are pretty robust at this point.
That's not cheap.

Speaker 2 That's not easy. It's not, oh, look what I've done.
I've hacked X. That's not what's happening here.
This screams big money and big coordination.

Speaker 2 Think state actors or elite, elite hacktists with deep, deep pockets from maybe a state actor.

Speaker 2 So There's a possibility that maybe these aren't separate attacks. Imagine a puppet master, like a tech rival, eyeing, you know,

Speaker 2 digital dominance.

Speaker 2 They want to shake X from the game. They orchestrate using Ukraine and pro-Hamas.
Those are just pawns in this.

Speaker 2 Or consider this, X's outages could be a test run for bigger targets, elections, markets, infrastructure. Maybe it's China.
I don't know. And that's the scary part.
Cyber warfare is evolving.

Speaker 2 And right now, X is the lab rat.

Speaker 2 And I don't think we have an idea at all at this point on who it is. The evidence, however, leads to state involvement.

Speaker 2 That's not good.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 we right now have all of Europe saying that we no longer have their values. And they hate Musk.

Speaker 2 And we've seen how they've been using Brazil to go after Musk. It could be Europe, our supposed ally.

Speaker 2 The pro-Hamas hit.

Speaker 2 This group does not have this kind of power. I think it doesn't have this kind of power.
Here's the thing you need to take away from this.

Speaker 2 Digital is now, it's no longer a vein. It's an artery.

Speaker 2 You cut our arteries. We bleed to death quickly.

Speaker 2 These attacks that are

Speaker 2 going after our

Speaker 2 arteries of communication, of business, of any kind of transactions, anything that threatens business, our freedom of expression, that's a new battlefield.

Speaker 2 Remember, it was Russia and Putin that said, the next war, World War III, will not be fought with missiles. It will be fought with ones and zeros.

Speaker 2 Before we all start pointing fingers, maybe we should start asking questions. Are we

Speaker 2 doing anything to defend our systems here?

Speaker 2 Because we need to stay sharp.

Speaker 2 This is, in my opinion, this is short of,

Speaker 2 but we're approaching

Speaker 2 a digital 9-11. This is maybe the first World Trade Center attack where it didn't really hit anything.
You know, it did damage, but it didn't take the building down. That's what this is.

Speaker 2 This is, what was that? Pat, was that the 95, 96 World Trade Center attack?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah, something like that.
Three?

Speaker 2 Okay, maybe 93. It's not going to take that long to get it right this time.
This is a wake-up call to everybody. in the Western world, but especially here in America.
We need to know who this was.

Speaker 2 All right. Now, while we're talking about enemies of the state, let's talk about the enemies within.
There's this big debate over the green card thing.

Speaker 2 I got a green card so I can disrupt. No, no, no.

Speaker 2 This is about Mahmoud Khalili.

Speaker 2 He's a green card holder that is now facing being deported because

Speaker 2 he is a guy sowing the seeds of

Speaker 2 dissent,

Speaker 2 of violence. He is the guy who was responsible for much of the bad stuff that was happening at Columbia University.

Speaker 2 And now,

Speaker 2 Trump, he's going in with immigration and ICE, and he just hates everybody that's different. No, no, that's not what's happening here.
This guy is not a citizen, not a citizen.

Speaker 2 He was leading the protest, really violent, awful, ugly anti-Semitic protest at Columbia University.

Speaker 2 Not just anti-Semitic, but leaning towards the whole Islam is great, we should have Sharia law kind of ideas.

Speaker 2 This cannot be tolerated here in America. He holds a green card.
What is that? That is a ticket, a golden ticket to live and work in America. But just like Willie Wonka,

Speaker 2 you can be ejected from the tour of the chocolate factory at any time.

Speaker 2 There's some fine print there that you might want to take half glasses and read half the contract like they did in Willie.

Speaker 2 It's not a passport.

Speaker 2 It's not citizenship.

Speaker 2 So let's look at this.

Speaker 2 You're handed a guest pass to the greatest estate on earth. Okay.
The greatest estate ever built. Marble floors, golden chandeliers.
It's the greatest.

Speaker 2 Nobody thought it could ever be this great, but it is. The view that stretches on forever and ever.
And you've been invited to come and sit at the table.

Speaker 2 Have some wide, build a life, but you don't own the deed.

Speaker 2 The owners are being very, very generous. And they said,

Speaker 2 stay as long as you want. Now, honor the house.
You got to live by the rules. Honor the house.

Speaker 2 So you've been invited to sit at this table, eat your fill,

Speaker 2 live like you're somebody that is part of the family, but then you start smashing the windows. You start, you know,

Speaker 2 whispering to other members in the house about, this place is bad. This place got to go.
We should torch the place.

Speaker 2 How long before that key is snatched from your hand by the owner?

Speaker 2 And who in their right mind would say, you can't take the key from him?

Speaker 2 No one.

Speaker 2 If you're a family member, if you care about the house, no one would say, Dad, you're being a little unreasonable. He was only trying to torch the kitchen and the guest wing.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 he's a guest.

Speaker 2 And that's where we are with this guy and so many others. Every green card holder that mistakes privilege for a birthright,

Speaker 2 you're in for a surprise. There's a new sheriff.

Speaker 2 There's a new sheriff in town. He's great.
We love him.

Speaker 2 It's... a revocable lease.

Speaker 2 That's what that is.

Speaker 2 It's not a title. You're not Lord of the Manor.
He's got a revocable lease with you.

Speaker 2 And here we are today. We're all like, I don't know this.
I mean, he should be able to sow chaos and terror,

Speaker 2 spread all the anti-American seeds he wants. No,

Speaker 2 he cannot.

Speaker 2 Here's why.

Speaker 2 A green card will make you a permanent resident. Legal.

Speaker 2 But not a citizen. You don't vote.
You don't sit on juries. By the way, those two things are responsibilities, not rights.

Speaker 2 So you have no responsibilities as a citizen, which means you have no rights as a citizen. And if you step out of line, you get sent back.

Speaker 2 The Constitution wraps its arms around citizens, freedom of speech, assembly, all of that. Non-citizens, nah, there's an embrace there, but it's very, very, very loose.

Speaker 2 Supreme Court made a rule back in 1893 when I was just a kid with Fong Yu-Ting.

Speaker 2 Oh, wait until you hear the story of Fong Yu-Ting.

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Speaker 2 Well, back in my day in 1893, there was this young whippersnapper called Fong Yu Ting.

Speaker 2 And he went, his case was taken to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 2 I won't bore you with all the details because I was too bored to really read them, but I do know that the outcome is Congress can deport non-citizens at will. There is no right to stay here.

Speaker 2 It doesn't exist. You break the law.
You threaten the nation. Bye bye.

Speaker 2 That's not cruelty.

Speaker 2 That's the rule book.

Speaker 2 So this guy.

Speaker 2 Kicking him out, that's not cruelty. That's not a tragedy of his rights being violated.
He has no rights. It's privileges revoked.
Not rights, privileges.

Speaker 2 Now think about this again. You're inviting somebody in your home.
You're welcome to the couch. You can have all the coffee you want.
You have the peace and quiet.

Speaker 2 But if you start carving up the furniture or plotting to blow the roof off, I don't owe you a bed anymore or matches to light the fuse. Period.
America is exactly the same.

Speaker 2 We have flung the doors open so wide, millions walk through, and I'm happy about this, to chase their dreams.

Speaker 2 But that comes with this deal. Don't tear down.

Speaker 2 You don't do that.

Speaker 2 You can't take the things that are holding this whole thing together and start taking the beams down. You can't.
You're not a citizen. You know, if you hate the beams, you're really rude.

Speaker 2 But you're also a massive risk. Get the hell out of here.
And by the way, I think we have enough cracks in our foundations without handing out free hammers.

Speaker 2 I don't know about you, but I'm like, hey, we shouldn't give hammers to everybody that comes in here. We should take those hammers away.

Speaker 2 So if history is a teacher

Speaker 2 and that teacher's got some scars to show you,

Speaker 2 this isn't about free speech because that's sacred for you and me. We're citizens.
If you're born here or you swear an oath, you have skin in the fight. You can rant.
You can rave.

Speaker 2 You can burn flags if you want. That's your call.
Your family.

Speaker 2 You've earned the voice. Green card holders, you're our guests.

Speaker 2 You know, you want to do whatever you want. That's fine.
Get the hell out. Period.

Speaker 2 We have to guard the gate. You see what's happening in Europe.
It's not good. It's not good at all.
We cannot go down that route. Green card holder, you're preaching terror.
Bye-bye. Stirring chaos.

Speaker 2 See you later. Spitting on the values that opened the freaking door for you.
Bye-bye. Wanna stay? Build? Don't burn.
Period.

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Speaker 2 I want to stop before we get there and just do a little mop-up on a couple of other stories that are out there. They're in the newsletter today.

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Speaker 2 There are several stories that are out about how the EPA has just cut their budgets and everybody's freaking out about, Doge, Doge is

Speaker 2 doing all this stuff and they have no right to do it. And USAID, Arubio, cut a whole buttload of money out of that and said, we're not going to give it to you.

Speaker 2 And everybody is saying, we've got to feed the world. Okay, okay.
A, no, we don't have to. We should be charitable.
And we already are the most charitable people. This USAID is not about charity.

Speaker 2 It's a CIA up. That's what it is, a CIA up.

Speaker 2 I'll give you the details on that, but let me just first give you a little, just a little comparison here on

Speaker 2 what we're spending and how big this nightmare actually is okay

Speaker 2 we have a budget we spend 6.3 trillion dollars that

Speaker 2 you can nobody can even fathom that okay

Speaker 2 if you look at Walmart they pulled in 611 billion dollars this is the biggest uh

Speaker 2 store the biggest revenue king in the world Okay,

Speaker 2 $611 billion.

Speaker 2 How much, how many times have you shopped at Walmart or bought anything from Walmart in the last year? Now, if you're in New York, you would look down Walmart, never.

Speaker 2 Okay, but for the rest of people, we're at Walmart all the time. Okay,

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 Walmart,

Speaker 2 we are spending, our government's spending

Speaker 2 is

Speaker 2 like every store, every truck, and employee combined for 10 Walmarts. That's what we spend in one year.

Speaker 2 Let me give it this a better way. Take all of the Fortune 500 companies.
Now, at the top are things like Apple, Amazon, Google, ExxonMobil, and then 496 other massive global companies. Okay.

Speaker 2 Their total revenue for a year

Speaker 2 is $18.1 trillion.

Speaker 2 That's the 500 largest corporations in the world.

Speaker 2 $18.1 trillion is their revenue. Our government is spending $6.3 trillion.
That's 35%

Speaker 2 of what these companies, the 500 biggest companies in the world, think about what they're making, what they're providing, what they're doing. Imagine if we spent 35%

Speaker 2 of what they are making and building and everything. If we bought 35%

Speaker 2 of that in oil,

Speaker 2 in computers, whatever, if we got 35%

Speaker 2 and purchased it, but that's what we're spending, but we're not getting any of that stuff.

Speaker 2 One-third of what America's biggest 500, biggest companies earn spent by our government.

Speaker 2 That's kind of big.

Speaker 2 So you look at the head count of the Fortune 500. Headcount, how many people do the Fortune 500 companies employ? 29.7 total.

Speaker 2 Our government employs 10%

Speaker 2 of that number.

Speaker 2 What? Look at America as a company, because it is, gang. I'm sorry to say it.
It has to be run like your family or a company or we go broke. And I don't know if you know this.
We've gone broke.

Speaker 2 10%

Speaker 2 are employees versus them. Again, think about everything that those 500 companies produce.
All of the cars,

Speaker 2 all of everything that they produce. We have 10% of their workforce.
What do we produce? That's not including the military, by the way.

Speaker 2 One in 10 Fortune 500 workers

Speaker 2 could be a federal employee. Now, how fast are we growing?

Speaker 2 In 2000, the budget was $1.8 trillion.

Speaker 2 In 2023, two years ago, our budget was $6.3 trillion.

Speaker 2 That's an increase of spending by 250%.

Speaker 2 Have we grown? I mean, it's not a problem. If you're going to make more money to spend more money, that's fine.
You'd spend more money and make more money and you never have a problem with it.

Speaker 2 Has our government

Speaker 2 provided 250% growth? Has our Fortune 500 companies given us 250% of growth? No!

Speaker 2 So why are we spending 250%

Speaker 2 more?

Speaker 2 Some of this is inflation.

Speaker 2 But what causes inflation?

Speaker 2 The government spending money it doesn't have and printing and borrowing money.

Speaker 2 So there's no way around this. It's not the capitalist system.
It's the fact that the government doesn't work within the framework of common sense or a capitalist system.

Speaker 2 I hate to say capitalist system. I just mean balance the budget.

Speaker 2 Fortune 500 companies churn out cars, phones, oils, medicine, everything that you use every day.

Speaker 2 And it's efficient because it has to or it will go out of business. See, the market demands results.
We don't for some reason. We spend all of that money,

Speaker 2 all of that money, 35% of what all 500 of these companies actually make in a year. We spend 35%

Speaker 2 and we don't demand any results.

Speaker 2 Have things really gotten that much better? Do you believe we've gotten 250% better as a nation? Do you believe we've gotten 25%?

Speaker 2 Do you believe we're 2.5% better than we were 25 years ago? I don't.

Speaker 2 So here's how they've been spending your money, and this is why all of these cuts matter. $1.1 trillion on DEI programs.
You could even say it was noble. I don't think it was.
But let's say you do.

Speaker 2 Was it $1.1 trillion

Speaker 2 in value for one

Speaker 2 year?

Speaker 2 I don't think so.

Speaker 2 $312 million in loans. You ready for this one, to kids for COVID.

Speaker 2 I don't even know how that happens.

Speaker 2 $17 billion in EPA DEI grants. Those were canceled.
Billions that could have fixed roads or, I don't know, fed our veterans, gotten some of our veterans off the streets.

Speaker 2 The VA, they announced yesterday that they have renegotiated 2%

Speaker 2 of their contracts and saved almost a billion dollars with 2% of the contracts renegotiated. If 2% saves that much just for the VA, let's just start with the VA.

Speaker 2 How much savings would happen with the other 98% of the contracts? And now let's take that out of the VA.

Speaker 2 What would happen if we renegotiated, oh, I don't know,

Speaker 2 50% of all of the government contracts and line them up with common sense

Speaker 2 you have to fight to survive every single day but the government doesn't have to when you're a business I don't care how big you are ExxonMobil could go out of business somebody comes up with a better way a better thing they'll go out of business and there's nothing that could stop that Because they don't have guns that says, you will buy oil from us.

Speaker 2 They don't have that. The government has that gun.
You will buy your government services from us, no matter how much we suck, no matter how much we waste. You're buying it from us.

Speaker 2 Oh, and by the way, if we want to waste money beyond people's imagination, we can, and we're going to bill your kids and your grandkids, and they'll be in debt forever.

Speaker 2 I don't think so. No, thank you.

Speaker 2 Our national debt is $34 trillion.

Speaker 2 Our deficit in 23, it's bigger now, but our deficit in the last confirmed numbers in 2023 is $1.7 trillion. That means we spend $1.7 trillion that we don't have.
We have to borrow that money.

Speaker 2 That's $1.7, $2 trillion

Speaker 2 more than we can collect from people.

Speaker 2 Our GDP

Speaker 2 is $26 trillion. Our debt to GDP is 130%.

Speaker 2 Our deficit is 6.5% of our GDP. Imagine a company that has a debt 1.3 times its revenue.

Speaker 2 It doesn't last.

Speaker 2 It goes out of business.

Speaker 2 But it goes out of business because the banks won't lend it any more money. Nobody will lend it money.

Speaker 2 Everybody in the stock market will take their money out and say, I don't believe in that one anymore. But we have the full faith and credit of the United States of America because we're big.

Speaker 2 The world can't last without us. They're about to, gang.

Speaker 2 It can tax you and print cash. So you know, that's not a fix, that's a delay, a delay of the inevitable.
$34 trillion in dollar bills would circle the entire planet 130 times.

Speaker 2 The deficit of 1.7 trillion is

Speaker 2 three times the Walmart revenue.

Speaker 2 Every year,

Speaker 2 the family budget,

Speaker 2 $50,000 a year, if you spend $65,000 a year, you have to borrow $15,000 every year. In 10 years,

Speaker 2 you owe triple your income.

Speaker 2 And then you have to go get a loan for that and you have to keep renewing that loan.

Speaker 2 What do you think your interest rates would be what do you think the bank would say you are as a credit risk what do you think your credit card interest rate would be if they would even issue you one

Speaker 2 that's what we're facing right now

Speaker 2 a business has to sell what people want or it goes out of business. A restaurant run by the federal government serves you cold soup littered with flies and they don't care.

Speaker 2 Because if you don't buy it, it doesn't matter to them. You have to pay for it anyway.
Your great-great-grandkids are going to have to pay for it anyway.

Speaker 2 No competition, no accountability, just a blank check. The government has our credit card and it has no limit.
It swipes $6.3 trillion, pays $4.6 trillion, and then charges the rest.

Speaker 2 And no bank says, stop.

Speaker 2 Interest compounds. One day, we have to pay for it.

Speaker 2 There are cracks in the dam.

Speaker 2 $1.1 trillion on DEI programs. That's two Fortune 500 companies' revenue.
Gone.

Speaker 2 Did that make us safer or stronger or richer?

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All right, I want to talk to you a little bit about something Rubio has done. Very, very controversial.

Speaker 2 He's going to cut all of these programs with USAID and everybody's freaking out. Oh my gosh, we just hate people and we want everybody in the world to starve.

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Speaker 2 Okay, so Rubio is cutting the budget dramatically. What is it, Pat? 85% of the USAID programs he's cutting.

Speaker 2 Let me just put you at your kitchen table here for a second. You got the bills spread out all over your table and you're like,

Speaker 2 where's all this money going? I can't afford to meet all of the bills. Where's the money going? And then you see on your credit card a charge for $70,000 for a musical in Ireland.

Speaker 2 And you're like,

Speaker 2 honey,

Speaker 2 right? That's the first thing you would say. Honey.

Speaker 2 Did we sign up for a musical in Ireland? You know how close we are to bankruptcy? What the hell is this? Well, I just thought it would be nice.

Speaker 2 No more spending on musicals in Ireland for the love of Pete. But that's what's been happening with your tax dollars through USAID, and it's much worse than that.

Speaker 2 So 83% of all of the USAID programs are getting the axe. Amen and amen.
If you have been listening to me for the last 15 or 20 years, I've been circling USAID over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 Really bad collection of radicals that are spending your tax dollars on things you don't know about.

Speaker 2 This is a long overdue reckoning, okay?

Speaker 2 The United States Agency for International Development. Notice that it's called USAID, but they never say it that way.
It looks like that, but it's not. It's USAID.
That's what it's called.

Speaker 2 Not USAID, USAID. Why? Because it's the Agency for International Development.

Speaker 2 It rolled into the scene in 1961,

Speaker 2 courtesy of John F. Kennedy.
And it was supposed to be our shining beacon in the Cold War, a way to win the hearts and minds, showing the world what freedom and generosity could look like.

Speaker 2 Remember, we're in the Cold War. We're trying to beat the Soviets.
So it's less than inspiring when you really know. Maybe it's clever when you know what it was really meant to do

Speaker 2 it was meant

Speaker 2 to overthrow communism it was it was meant to

Speaker 2 buy elections work with revolutionaries and also go into countries and say look how great Uncle Sam is right

Speaker 2 but we jumped that last track long ago your tax dollars we shelled out 1.5 million to promote diversity equity and inclusion in the workplace of Serbia.

Speaker 2 I don't think most Americans could find Serbia on a map.

Speaker 2 Why do we care about what Serbians are talking about around the water cooler? Okay.

Speaker 2 $70,000 for a DEI-themed musical in our... Honey!

Speaker 2 I don't really think that Uncle Sam needs to swoop in with a song and dance number. I really don't.
Ireland, you're on your own with that thing.

Speaker 2 $47,000 for a transgender opera in Colombia. Now, as much as I love the arts.
No!

Speaker 2 What the hell is that?

Speaker 2 $32,000 for a transgender comic

Speaker 2 in Peru.

Speaker 2 Are we running a charity or is this some sort of global art festival?

Speaker 2 I'm not really sure.

Speaker 2 So USAID finally is caught red-handed

Speaker 2 funding the meals that ended up feeding al-Qaeda fighters in Syria. Now, when I got up this morning, I was thinking to myself, you know what, we should be more charitable towards al-Qaeda.

Speaker 2 No, it wasn't me. Maybe, I don't think it was you.
If it was, maybe you should, honey!

Speaker 2 Ask yourself, when the hell did I become for that?

Speaker 2 And then there's the millions and millions of dollars funneled funneled into EcoHealth Alliance. Do you remember that name? EcoHealth Alliance, the makers of the Wuhan lab and COVID-19.

Speaker 2 Why did we spend all of that money?

Speaker 2 Okay, also, can we talk about the elephant in the room? And when I say elephant in the room, I mean the one that's wearing a

Speaker 2 trench coat, a hat, and dark glasses. You know, the CIA elephant that is in the room.
Because that's what this is. This is a

Speaker 2 CIA front. That's what USAID is.
That's not tinfoil hat stuff. That's cold, hard fact.

Speaker 2 Back in the Cold War, they were training foreign police in counterinsurgency tactics, torture techniques in Latin America.

Speaker 2 You know, all those fun things that we've all grown to love so much and have really caused the rest of the world to love us so much.

Speaker 2 That's not a conspiracy. That's history, documented and undeniable.
Now,

Speaker 2 what happens when the Cold War ends?

Speaker 2 Well, we have to find new enemies because all that funding is there. So what do we do now?

Speaker 2 Okay, well, the Cuban Twitter fiasco to stir up dissent in Cuba, bankrolled by USAID. Then there's Ukraine.
I don't even know where to start with Ukraine. Hey, do you remember Hunter Biden, who

Speaker 2 had that cushy-cushy gig on the board of Burisma?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, while Hunter was cashing those checks, his dad was VP, USAID was pouring money into Ukraine for development and governance programs.

Speaker 2 Guess who one of the recipients of that was? Everybody's favorite, George Soros.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't think that's a good idea. Is this aid

Speaker 2 or is this revolution? Is this aid or is this just greasing palms?

Speaker 2 There's going to be people who stand, Democrats and people on the left, and I shouldn't say really good people who really care about aid, who really care about people, and they're going to stand because they hate Donald Trump so much.

Speaker 2 They're going to say, this is Donald Trump. He just hates helping people.
Okay.

Speaker 2 First of all,

Speaker 2 this isn't about Trump. It's not about Trump.
It's about us.

Speaker 2 It's about you and me and every single taxpayer who is sick of seeing our money flush down the drain on pet projects and covert ops.

Speaker 2 I don't want covert ops that are no longer even overseen by Congress.

Speaker 2 This isn't about being stingy. This is not about turning our backs on the world.
This is about accountability.

Speaker 2 It's about making sure that when we do want to help, we're actually helping, not hurting.

Speaker 2 Think about it like this. You're running a small business and you find out that 83%,

Speaker 2 83% of your expenses are going to stuff that doesn't move the needle at all for your business.

Speaker 2 Fancy coffee machines, you know, random side hustles, you name it. 83% of what you're spending and you're a small business, do you cut that? Or do you go, well, that might be doing good.

Speaker 2 I mean, coffee is very important.

Speaker 2 No!

Speaker 2 You would cut it. Why?

Speaker 2 Because everyone suffers if you go out of business and you don't cut it.

Speaker 2 You refocus on what works, what keeps the lights on. And that's what USAID, that's what the overhaul is aiming for.
That's why they didn't cut 100%. I would have cut 100%.

Speaker 2 That's why they didn't cut 100%. I guess some of it does good things.
I personally believe in private charity. I don't want the government in charity business.
That's our job.

Speaker 2 But this isn't about killing aid. This is just about making it effective, aligning it with our national interest and dare I say, our values, if we have any.

Speaker 2 That's all the while trying to stop the bleeding out of the out-of-control. spending.
We're bleeding out on the table. We all know this spending is going to kill us.

Speaker 2 I don't know why we continue to not do anything about it, why we don't demand, wait a minute, no, Republicans, Democrats, stop the insanity. We're bleeding out on the table.

Speaker 2 The longer we make this about Trump or the left or the right or Biden, the faster the patient called America dies on the table.

Speaker 2 Can we focus on what really matters?

Speaker 2 So let's prioritize. What matters? Well, number one, national security.
Okay.

Speaker 2 We can't help anyone if we are not secure.

Speaker 2 In a world where China is building islands in the South China Sea and Russia is flexing its muscles, we cannot afford to waste any of our resources on DEI musicals or transgender comic books.

Speaker 2 Can we please, for the love of Pete, be a little strategic? I want to build alliances, but I do not want to bankroll our enemies, foreign or domestic.

Speaker 2 But this just isn't about security.

Speaker 2 It's also about building an alliance.

Speaker 2 Okay?

Speaker 2 It's about morality.

Speaker 2 When our aid ends up in the hands of terrorists,

Speaker 2 We're not just wasting money. We're betraying the people that we're supposed to be helping and betraying the people who gave that money.

Speaker 2 Does no one see, you know,

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Speaker 2 How can I serve you better? Is what I ask all the time. Sarah, am I right? All the time, I ask that.

Speaker 2 How can we help them?

Speaker 2 Do you really think that this is helping

Speaker 2 the taxpayer, the DEI musical in Ireland? Do you think that's helping you or your friends?

Speaker 2 That's not who we are.

Speaker 2 We're better than this.

Speaker 2 Now, let me just talk to your friends, or let me just give you the case so you can talk to your friends who just hate Donald Trump. And everything is about Donald Trump.
It's not about logic anymore.

Speaker 2 It's just about Donald Trump. I have a challenge for them.

Speaker 2 Look past the messenger and hear the message. This isn't a partisan power grab.
It's a chance to clean house, to zero set our budgets and look at it and say, what's important? Have you ever...

Speaker 2 Do you have subscriptions that you have no idea that you were paying for? Have you ever done that? You look at the subscriptions.

Speaker 2 It's like, what the hell is this $6.99 for that and $8.99 for that and $3.99 for that? All of a sudden, those add up.

Speaker 2 You have to zero set and go, okay, let's just do the right thing. Forget about all these things that we have been doing.

Speaker 2 Let's look and see what is the right thing to do.

Speaker 2 When you take USAID

Speaker 2 and you look at it and you look at it as USAID, you think, oh, that's a force for good. But it's not.
It's a slush fund for bureaucrats and spies. That's what it was designed to be.

Speaker 2 We don't live in 1961 anymore. I think we should maybe reevaluate the whole thing.
And you don't have to love the guy in the Oval Office to see this makes sense. Waste is waste.

Speaker 2 Inefficiency is inefficiency. Accountability should not have a party label on it.

Speaker 2 When your friends start talking to you about this, Donald Trump, stop it right now. Stop it.

Speaker 2 Should accountability have a party label? Is inefficiency ever okay? Is waste of your...

Speaker 2 You know, they say time is money?

Speaker 2 You're working until April 19th just to pay your taxes. From January 1st to April 19th, days after you have to pay your taxes, you're still working to pay those taxes.

Speaker 2 Are you okay with any kind of waste of that money? Because I'm not.

Speaker 2 This is not slashing foreign aid.

Speaker 2 It's not going to turn America into some sort of hermit kingdom.

Speaker 2 Nowhere is anyone saying we should stop helping people. We're saying we should stop screwing it up.

Speaker 2 How do you argue with that?

Speaker 2 We're not saying shut the door. We're not saying isolate ourselves.
We're saying, can we reevaluate for a second here? Because we're in deep trouble with our spending.

Speaker 2 We're talking about taking our treasury and locking the doors when there are thieves at the door and opening the treasury when there's good to be done.

Speaker 2 How is that suddenly so unreasonable?

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Speaker 2 Did you see what former U.S. Ambassador to Russia under Obama tweeted out yesterday? This is really telling.
Okay. It's Michael McFaul, and he's talking about USAID.
He says, huge mistake.

Speaker 2 We needed reform of USAID, not dismantlement. China is not ending foreign assistance programs.

Speaker 2 In an age of great power competition, the Trump administration is unilaterally destroying one of our best instruments of soft power influence. Okay, okay, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 I thought this was all about aid. Yeah, aid, like charity, right? What do you mean? That's what people.
That's power influence. That's what they're arguing.
The left is arguing. This is all about aid.

Speaker 2 And yet. No.
It's not. It's not.
And even

Speaker 2 he admits it. He says the quiet part out loud.
You're not supposed to do that, Michael. You're supposed to just call it a charity and children are dying now because of this.
So he's absolutely right.

Speaker 2 If that's the way you want to view, that's what USAID was supposed to do. Okay.
Soft power.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 So they're not closing it down. That's exactly what the Trump administration is doing.
They're saying 85%, we don't need any DEI musicals in

Speaker 2 Ireland. If we're going to do this, let's be strategic about it.
Isn't that reform? Isn't that the reform he claims he's for?

Speaker 2 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 2 Right. I'm just having a hard time finding it.
It seems to be. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But,

Speaker 2 you know, to

Speaker 2 virtually admit that this is a CIA operation is staggering because if it's not, you don't use soft power influence to describe USAID, right? You use charity,

Speaker 2 giving. And you know what? You know what? He's right about the redesigning of all of this.
Charity means nothing when it goes and come with respect.

Speaker 2 That's exactly what Donald Trump is trying to do on the Mexican border, Canadian,

Speaker 2 is exactly what he's trying to do in Greenland.

Speaker 2 He's saying,

Speaker 2 we will give you things, you give us things. That's what China is doing with their Belt and Road initiative.
They're not giving fake charity. They're buying and selling in unethical ways.

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Speaker 2 Welcome to the program. John Dodson is with us.
He's been with us before. He is the whistleblower on

Speaker 2 Fast and Furious. He's blown a lot of whistles.

Speaker 2 This one now, he's a former ATF agent, and he is far enough away from things to where he can legally say everything that he knows, I think everything he knows.

Speaker 2 But right now, the Mexican government is suing our gunmakers.

Speaker 2 I believe this started, and the seeds were planted by the Obama administration on this one, but I could be wrong. But they're suing U.S.
gunmakers, and they're blaming us now.

Speaker 2 The tariffs are going up. Why? Why? Because unfair trade.
Let's just have regular trade with each other.

Speaker 2 What you charge us, we'll charge you. But in the case of Mexico, it is also mainly about the border at this point.

Speaker 2 You have got to declare those drug cartels enemies of the state and terrorist organizations, and you've got to stop them. If not, we will.
But you've got to stop what's happening on our border.

Speaker 2 What have they done? They're blaming us for the drug cartel violence. I'm sorry.
They're blaming our gun manufacturers for this. John is here to tell us the whole story.

Speaker 2 The author of The Unarmed Truth. Hello, John.
How are you?

Speaker 5 Hey, I'm fine, sir. Thank you so much for having me on.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 I appreciate it. So tell me what's really going on.

Speaker 5 Well, what's really going on is a,

Speaker 5 it's actually complicated, but the gist of it is the Mexican government is far and away responsible for arming the cartels.

Speaker 5 The data that I've seen and the way that e-trace system works, so ATF has e-trace, which is where firearms tracing is conducted. And if I can give you a brief background, if you don't mind.

Speaker 5 So the only way we can successfully trace, and when I say we, I mean ATF, and I'm retired now, but the only way you can successfully trace a firearm is if it has a U.S. nexus.

Speaker 5 It was either manufactured here or imported into the U.S. at some point.
Either way, it's stamped manufactured in the U.S. or imported in the U.S.
by the company that did so.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 to say that all the prime guns successfully traced in Mexico are U.S. source firearms, it's kind of a rigged ballgame because the only ones we can successfully trace are U.S.
source firearms anyway.

Speaker 5 If a firearm was made in, you know, the former Soviet bloc or China, we wouldn't have access to that.

Speaker 2 We're not tracking that.

Speaker 5 Exactly. We can't trace that, so it doesn't doesn't come back.
So the numbers are skewed from the very beginning. Now, put on top of that, of the U.S.

Speaker 5 source firearms, and this is where it comes into what's the motive behind it. Is it ignorance or is it deception?

Speaker 5 To say that the vast majority of crime guns recovered in Mexico are traced back to U.S. sources.
Okay, again, we can only successfully trace those that are U.S. sourced anyway.

Speaker 5 But you are not discounting those ones that were purchased directly by the Mexican government. Now, I worked on the border for the past 12 years of my career, especially in firearms traffic.

Speaker 5 At Fast and Furious, I was in a firearms trafficking unit. Like that was all that we were supposed to do.

Speaker 5 And if you look at the data from e-trace,

Speaker 5 it's...

Speaker 5 Like it's clear. It's so clear.

Speaker 5 And by the numbers, the reports that I ran before I retired, every year, any 12-month period since 2010 until the day that I retired in 2023, whatever 12-month period you want to run, the Mexican government accounts for about 70 to 75% of the crime guns recovered in Mexico.

Speaker 5 And these are direct purchases by the Mexican government or government-to-government sales from the U.S. government to Mexico.
The problem is those weapons are considered U.S. source.

Speaker 5 And ATF doesn't delineate, doesn't take those out of the numbers when they speak to Congress or when they release the information. They count them all as U.S.
source firearms.

Speaker 5 And so the American civilian firearms market is left holding the bag and blamed for the cartel violence in Mexico.

Speaker 2 Okay, so wait, wait, wait, wait. So Mexico is buying this from

Speaker 2 us.

Speaker 2 And I assume that

Speaker 2 those guns are supposed to go to the Mexican government to fight cartels, et cetera.

Speaker 2 Are these guns going into the hands of the cartels?

Speaker 5 Yes, 100%.

Speaker 5 And the icing on the cake is most of the money that

Speaker 5 they use to purchase these firearms is provided by the U.S. government.
The Mexican government says, well, we need help hiding the cartels. So we give them money to purchase equipment and weapons.

Speaker 5 They buy these weapons directly from manufacturers. And I'll just say COLT, just as an example, all right, just because everyone recognizes the name Colt.

Speaker 5 They'll buy two Connex boxes of M4 variants, you know, AR variants from Colt. You know, these are military-grade weapons.

Speaker 5 Two Connex boxes come, one goes to the Mexican military, one's diverted in the black market.

Speaker 5 Those ones in the black market are recovered in crime scenes, subsequently traced, and then that's counted as a U.S. sourced firearm.

Speaker 5 When they release the data about all the crime guns in Mexico, they count that as a U.S. source firearm.

Speaker 2 So, do we have the serial numbers

Speaker 2 to prove that they were purchased

Speaker 2 by the Mexican federal government?

Speaker 5 100%. Like, it's all in e-trace.
If you look at the e-trace data, the data, like, one of two ways it will come back. And there are several different ways that this happens.

Speaker 5 So the Mexican government, ATF has issued different entities of the Mexican government FFL numbers, and they all begin with a Z. It has a Z as the first character.

Speaker 5 So they can purchase directly from manufacturers, right?

Speaker 5 And so when one of those firearms is traced, the trace comes back and says this firearm was traced to a foreign government or law enforcement agency.

Speaker 5 Then the other way of doing it is they buy direct government-to-government sales. So the firearm trace comes back and says, quote, the firearm is a U.S.
military weapon, unquote. So

Speaker 5 those are weapons purchased by the U.S. government and then sold to the Mexican government in order to support their efforts to fight the cartels.

Speaker 5 When in fact, the vast majority of the crime guns that are being recovered in Mexico are stemming from these

Speaker 5 direct purchases by the Mexican government.

Speaker 5 And I'm not joking. It's at least 70%.
Every year that I ran it, and I've ran it religiously to the literally the day I turned my computer and retired, I ran it.

Speaker 5 And it's about, it was 72% on that day. And it's always been 70 to 75%.

Speaker 2 So we're talking to John Dodson. He is a former ATF agent.
He was a whistleblower on Fast and Furious. He's the author of Unarmed Truth.

Speaker 2 And I think you were on the air and we talked about this.

Speaker 2 and we talked about how the ATF was targeting and harassing whistleblowers who were testifying in front of Congress.

Speaker 2 And I think you made a slight reference to this, but you couldn't talk about it or wouldn't talk about it.

Speaker 2 What's changed?

Speaker 5 Well, if you'll remember, there was a different administration at the time.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 5 I was definitely worried about being prosecuted for frauding this information.

Speaker 2 All right. So who is,

Speaker 2 when they're doing this, is this because the Mexican government is the drug cartel? The Mexican government is afraid of the drug cartel.

Speaker 2 Who's really in charge of pushing the government to sue our gun manufacturers here?

Speaker 5 Well, you know, and those are,

Speaker 5 those questions are what I refer to as echelons above Dotson.

Speaker 5 But I can tell you, okay, so best case scenario is the Mexican government doesn't know. Like the current president of Mexico and the former president and the one before that doesn't know.

Speaker 5 They only know the data that ATF has released that

Speaker 5 all these firearms are U.S. source firearms and therefore they blame the U.S.
civilian firearms market. That's best case scenario.

Speaker 5 Then you have to make the argument or you have to at least ask the questions about, well, why don't they know the freaking truth?

Speaker 5 Like if they're buying all these guns and they're not getting them all, they're being subverted into the black market, why aren't they aware of that?

Speaker 5 So you'd ask that of the Ukrainians, too, but I digress. Oh, exactly.
That's a whole nother issue. I can only imagine where that trace information comes back to.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 But so the Mexicans are either they're willfully ignorant, all right, or it's entirely corrupt. Either way.

Speaker 5 But what frustrates me the most is, especially now during these terrent negotiations with the Mexican government over these tariffs and things like that,

Speaker 5 every time you hold them to account for something, the first response is, well, you've got to stop the, quote, flow of firearms, unquote, south. You have to stop it.

Speaker 5 And it's so hard when we're negotiating, when our officials are negotiating with facts that aren't true, that aren't accurate, or at least are disguised in a way to where they don't have the true story,

Speaker 5 it's not fair to the American government. It's not fair to the American people.
And it's not fair to the Mexican people at all.

Speaker 2 So then why do we do this? Because you can buy guns elsewhere in Mexico. Why don't we do this?

Speaker 2 Why doesn't, if Trump knows this, and I don't know if he does, but if Trump knows this, why doesn't he say, you know what? You're right. We're going to stop all guns from crossing the border.

Speaker 2 You can no longer buy American arms. I know that would hurt the arms companies here in America for maybe a year.

Speaker 2 But then things change and the truth is out. And Mexico doesn't want that.
Why wouldn't he just say, okay, we'll stop all the guns coming across the border.

Speaker 2 Buy your guns elsewhere for the next 12 months months and let's see what happens.

Speaker 5 Well, I'm going to be honest because I don't think they know. And that's part of the reason that I'm talking to you is because there's no way to tell them.

Speaker 5 They'll call ATF and ATF will say, oh, yeah, 80% of the firearms traced in Mexico are U.S.

Speaker 5 horse firearms, but they don't take into account the direct purchases by the Mexican government or the government to government sales.

Speaker 5 Whoever's handling negotiations with Mexico, if they would sit down at the table and say, hey, we need you to work on fentanyl and border crossings and border security and things like this, and Mexico will do what they always do, which is say, Well, you got to stop the flow of firearms.

Speaker 5 Say, Okay, give me one second. I've just rescinded all of the export licenses for your government to buy purchases, purchase firearms directly.

Speaker 5 I've revoked the foreign FFLs that ATF has issued you, and I've ceased to assist all government-to-government sales from the Department of Defense and the State Department.

Speaker 5 There, instantaneously, I have cut over 70% of the crime guns being supplied to Mexico. So, now, Madam President, it's your turn.
What are you going to do? Put up or shut up?

Speaker 2 God, that's brilliant.

Speaker 2 Have you talked to anybody in the administration about this?

Speaker 5 No, sir. I don't.
Like, how does anyone talk to the administration?

Speaker 2 All right, do me a favor. Give me a white paper on this, and you tell me who it needs to go to, and I'll get it to them.

Speaker 5 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 5 I have been pounding this drum, sir, for years. I have brought this to the attention of my ATF supervisors as far up the chain as I could go.

Speaker 5 I even physically like handed the printouts, the documents, the data to the highest-ranking DOJ official assigned to Mexico City at the time, and nothing ever happened of it.

Speaker 5 And again, this is a previous administration. So.

Speaker 2 Well, you don't expect anything from that, but I expect something from this. So give me the names of who it should go to

Speaker 2 and give me the best, sharpest white paper on it. Don't overwhelm with facts.

Speaker 2 Give me the executive summary on the front so it can be understood and explained.

Speaker 2 And then give me me all the facts.

Speaker 2 After that, I'll have it delivered to the right people, and then I'll give them time to read it and digest it, or their people to digest it, and then I'll ask for an answer. What happened here?

Speaker 2 Why aren't you doing that?

Speaker 5 No problems. I will work on that immediately this afternoon.

Speaker 5 But in the meantime, sir, and I want to tell you, I know there are a lot of ATF agents that listen to your show, and people, probably people in the administration, don't have to take my word for it.

Speaker 5 You can call any ATF agent, like someone in the administration, call a field office.

Speaker 5 Don't call headquarters, call a field office, call any ATF agent that has an e-trace account and say, hey, I want you to run a report for me. Log on to e-trace.

Speaker 5 On the right-hand side, it's generate a statistical report. Click on that.
It's all going to automatically populate to your org code. Change that default to recovery location.

Speaker 5 Put in Mexico and do any 12-month time period that you want. And you will see the data is clear on this issue.
All right.

Speaker 5 The Mexican military is the number one source of supplier of crime guns to the Mexican cartels, hands down. And I mean exponentially so.
When you see the data, it will, like,

Speaker 5 it's flabbergasted.

Speaker 2 John, get me the data and get me that white paper on it and an executive summary, and

Speaker 2 I'll get it to them. As soon as you give it to me, I will send it, turn it right around, and get it to all the leadership.

Speaker 5 All right, sir.

Speaker 5 I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 Thanks, John. I appreciate it.
God bless.

Speaker 2 John Dodson, the unarmed truth. By the way, if you're an ATF agent and you can do that and you can verify what he's saying, call us.
I'd love to hear from you. Because Mexico is putting in,

Speaker 2 they're suing us. They're suing all of our gun makers here in America for $10 billion.

Speaker 2 No, I don't think so, but it's going to the Supreme Court. I think the Supreme Court's going to say you can't, you don't have a leg to stand on.
But

Speaker 2 again, it's the same kind of corrupt mentality of the last administration, you know, of not actually addressing the issue, but going after little pet peeves and going after

Speaker 2 our guns and our rights to guns. All right, back in just a second.

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Speaker 2 No, I didn't. But

Speaker 2 I firmly believe that the Mexican government fully knows. Of course they do.
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And they're just corrupt. And they're because they have to be.

Speaker 2 You're dead. Yes.
I mean, I have to tell you, if there is anybody that is not in bed with the cartel, which I don't know if they exist, but if there is anybody that's not, they're praying every night.

Speaker 2 The citizens of Mexico, I bet you, are praying every night. Please, dear Lord, send the American soldiers in here in the dead of night and kill all of these people.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 When you can't vote for your mayor that you want to vote. Yeah, because 11 of them have been killed.

Speaker 2 You're not, that's not, you're not living in a free society. You're shutting your mouth because if you open your mouth, you and your family will be dead.

Speaker 2 When you send 9,000 troops northward 20 years ago and 6,000 of them join the cartels,

Speaker 2 yeah, it's a problem. It's right.
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Speaker 2 I really hope that

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Speaker 2 Friday, the Department of Homeland Security dropped a bomb saying

Speaker 2 they're axing the TSA's union deal. Okay.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 2 Well, because they made this deal under Biden and 86% of our airports,

Speaker 2 more TSA people are clocking in as union reps than are actually checking your bag.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Nearly 200 out of them get paid your tax dollars to sit in meetings, not to stop bombs okay

Speaker 2 but to i think give a middle finger to every one of us who's ever missed a flight or slow security line last may biden's crew gave 42 000 tsa screeners a huge fat union contract more rights and bigger checks did you get did you get that in

Speaker 2 oh no you didn't get that did you okay now dsa dhs is a dumpster fire they have screeners booking six day sick days seven months out. I'm going to be sick in September.

Speaker 2 Excuse me? How do you know you're going to be? Oh, it's weird.

Speaker 2 You're sick the same time Coachella is happening. Isn't that weird?

Speaker 2 So what's happening is they are just abusing the system and the good ones are all there picking up the slack. I mean, this is the way it happens in government.

Speaker 2 This is why we've got to cut cut the size of government.

Speaker 2 And this, and honestly, cut the unions out of government. Over 60% of TSA workers now say the lazy ones are just coasting and that's killing morale.
60%

Speaker 2 of TSA workers.

Speaker 2 Unions are pissed because Trump said, nah, we're not doing that. They're saying, there's workers' rights.

Speaker 2 Okay, first of all, you work for the government, so you don't really have workers' rights like everybody else outside of the government. And you don't have to quote me.
You can quote FDR.

Speaker 2 And he was kind of a big union guy. He loved unions.
Remember him? Kind of a progressive icon. He said it cannot happen in the federal government.

Speaker 2 1937, he writes that public unions are a no-go because they don't bargain with the boss. They bargain with the customer.

Speaker 2 He said, when they slack or strike, we're the ones that end up paying the price. No flights, no services, just chaos.
Picture this.

Speaker 2 200 TSA union reps are chilling and they're just like, you know what, what can we do to make this job easier and the union stronger in TSA?

Speaker 2 They're talking about that while you're barefoot holding your toothpaste in a baggie, missing your flight. That's your money.

Speaker 2 Your money.

Speaker 2 FDR said this is a power grab and it is.

Speaker 2 Government jobs are exploding. We have 7 million people that work for the government.
That's federal, state, or local. Unionized.
7 million people. That's one in every 20 Americans.

Speaker 2 Over a third are unionized. Now, what is the rate of unionization in the private sector, in the real world?

Speaker 2 6%.

Speaker 2 In the federal world, it's 30%.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 2 Why? Private unions fight broke companies. Government unions fight you.

Speaker 2 And the politicians don't care because it's not their cash. It's your cash.
We spend $6 trillion

Speaker 2 of our federal budget. Half of that is on salary and pensions.

Speaker 2 I don't know. Sounds like a problem.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 hello? You're 30. You're hustling two gigs.
Maybe you're driving for Uber. You got a full-time job, but you also have to do the Uber thing.

Speaker 2 Half of your paycheck is feeding a machine that doesn't even work.

Speaker 2 How is that fair to you? I'm trying to...

Speaker 2 Is this the way we're supposed to be?

Speaker 2 Let me go back to their first principles, the Constitution. It says government serves of the people, by the people, for the people.
It serves us, okay?

Speaker 2 Article 2 runs the show.

Speaker 2 Article 1, Congress, pays the bills.

Speaker 2 Where's the part about us funding union reps over our security?

Speaker 2 It's not in any of the articles. It's not even in an article in the New York Times.

Speaker 2 It doesn't exist. When the TSA cares more about job security than America's security or your security, something's wildly broken.
You stood in those lines.

Speaker 2 You've had your shoes off, laptop out, praying your water bottle doesn't get cavity searched, you know.

Speaker 2 I see you're holding a water bottle. Come on over here.
We got to make sure you don't have another one in your butt. Excuse me? That's not freedom, man.
That's insanity.

Speaker 2 And it's because we panicked after 9-11. That's what happened.
50,000 screeners, $8 billion a year, 432 airports. Safety first, right? No, it's not safety first.

Speaker 2 Come on, we've all stood in those lines. How many times do you stand in the line and go, you know what? This is a very efficient and great system.
I feel so much safer now. I've never felt that way.

Speaker 2 Government tests. They do tests every year at the airports.
They miss fake bombs and fake guns 70%

Speaker 2 of the time.

Speaker 2 Wait, and

Speaker 2 they just got a raise? Wait, what?

Speaker 2 95% of the time back in 2015. So they're getting better.
It was 90%. They only caught 5% of the bombs and the guns.

Speaker 2 Now they're

Speaker 2 only missing 30, 30%,

Speaker 2 sorry, finding 30% of them.

Speaker 2 You are more likely to be groped than protected in those lines. And you and I both know it.
Now, there's two airports that are doing things differently. Believe it or not, I can't believe this.

Speaker 2 I don't know how this happened, but San Francisco and Kansas City, those airports are the only two that are privatized, fully private firms.

Speaker 2 Guess who nails the tests every year?

Speaker 2 Okay, guess which lines move like a TikTok dance?

Speaker 2 Smooth, fast, effective, happening quickly. It's those two airports, you know, the ones that are finding the guns and the bombs.
Why? Because private companies cannot afford to suck like this.

Speaker 2 TSA, that's a government fail. Okay.
What happens? Oh, whoops. We let a bomb get on an airport, on an airplane.
Whoops. Who's held accountable for that? Do they go out of business? No, they don't.

Speaker 2 They don't ever.

Speaker 2 If a private airport can outdo what the federal government is doing everywhere else, why are we stuck with this clown show?

Speaker 2 I'll tell you why.

Speaker 2 Unions.

Speaker 2 Government.

Speaker 2 If they miss a bomb at one of those two airports and it goes off on a plane, do you think the people, the plane, the airplanes, the

Speaker 2 airlines, do you think they get sued out of their mind and they go out of business because they hired a firm that was missing a bomb?

Speaker 2 Yeah, they do. So they're incentivized to make sure no bombs get on that plane.
The government? Are you going to sue the government? You can't sue the government.

Speaker 2 You might be 40. You're juggling kids, your mortgage.
Why is your tax money funding a TSA that fails? when the San Francisco airport thrives.

Speaker 2 Why are we not ditching this whole thing? I say abolish the TSA. Let the airports hire private security.
It works.

Speaker 2 No airline in the country would allow 70% of the bombs and the fake guns getting through. They couldn't afford it.

Speaker 2 But the government's like, ah,

Speaker 2 and they cash the check.

Speaker 2 This is why our founder, they wanted a lean machine. Madison said in Federalist 51, power hoarding kills republics.
Government unions, they're modern hoarders. They lock in the job.

Speaker 2 They shield the slackers. They grow the beast.

Speaker 2 Rome collapsed

Speaker 2 when the bureaucrats got too comfy. It just collapsed.

Speaker 2 How comfy do you think our bureaucrats are? Look at them. Look at them.

Speaker 2 Britain's empire wobbled until it slashed its payroll. We have 7 million government workers, more than the populations of 38 states.

Speaker 2 Wow, that's a...

Speaker 2 Wait, say that again.

Speaker 2 Our government workers

Speaker 2 total more than the population of 38 different states.

Speaker 2 That's not public service.

Speaker 2 That's a heist.

Speaker 2 So here's the thing.

Speaker 2 Trump went in and he said, we're cutting your union contract.

Speaker 2 No, no, you're not spending, you're not having these employees spend their whole day trying to figure out how they can make the union stronger.

Speaker 2 We want every employee looking at how we can make our safety better.

Speaker 2 So first thing it has to be done. and you know i could dream i could dream hey i'm a dreamer

Speaker 2 no government unions no collective bargaining for public workers none zip zero fdr nailed it they cannot hold the people hostage

Speaker 2 What they're doing is they're negotiating with the politicians, but the politicians aren't the ones spending the money. It doesn't cost them anything.
And they get kickbacks from those unions.

Speaker 2 So you're paying for it. They cannot negotiate like that because the one that's actually

Speaker 2 the one that's paying the salaries isn't represented there. That's why FDR was against it.
And he was right.

Speaker 2 You can't unionize against your boss and your customers.

Speaker 2 Merit over membership, period.

Speaker 2 Two, cut the fat. 7 million, more than 38 states.
I think we can lose a few. Trump's buyouts, full pay for eight months to quit.

Speaker 2 75,000 got out. That's a good start, maybe for a Monday.

Speaker 2 Freeze the hires.

Speaker 2 Take the federal government and slash it to 3.5. There's going to be chaos.
Yes, there is. Have you ever worked for a company that is dying?

Speaker 2 A company that is out of business if they don't do things drastically different.

Speaker 2 We are that company. This country is dying.

Speaker 2 To save it and to save the employees that we can, because we'll all be out of jobs, you've got to slash and you're going to have some chaos. But then it rights itself.

Speaker 2 Private companies run lean. 3%

Speaker 2 of the employees are administration. That's the average of private companies.
3%. Do Do you know what ours is? For the government? 15%

Speaker 2 of

Speaker 2 all of them being bosses. 15%.

Speaker 2 I don't know. You're killing it at work.

Speaker 2 Why is your tax bill propping up paper pushers? Why?

Speaker 2 Privatize all of the airport security.

Speaker 2 Kansas City and San Francisco, They do it better, faster, safer, cheaper. Repeal the 2001 Aviation Security Act.
Congress can do it. Let the airports and the airlines compete.

Speaker 2 You'd rather breeze through than beg some Fed to hurry up, right? You'd rather have it done right,

Speaker 2 competently, and somebody that you can hold responsible.

Speaker 2 You know, Coolidge was one of the greatest presidents of the 20th century.

Speaker 2 He crushed a police strike in 1919. He said, no, there's no striking against the public.
Can't do it. Reagan fired 11,000 controllers.
Airplanes are going to fall out of the sky.

Speaker 2 You know what didn't happen? That.

Speaker 2 This isn't anti-worker. This is pro-you.

Speaker 2 Help your friends keep that in perspective. We don't mind the workers.
We're going after

Speaker 2 efficiency, competence, security.

Speaker 2 This is not against the worker. It's about you.

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Speaker 2 Did you have any idea that that was going on? None. Yeah, neither did I.
No, none. I mean, I knew that the TSA was failing tests.

Speaker 2 But did you know that many times that they gave, I mean, Biden did so many things at the very end to give all these

Speaker 2 people that are quite honestly Democratic donors. That's what the unions are.

Speaker 2 Give them all these gifts. When you have

Speaker 2 people in the airport that are representing the union instead of representing, why am i paying for that right the union should be paying for that yeah

Speaker 2 and you're right that uh you know i've never gone into the in into the airport it stood in one of those lines and felt safer because of it never never

Speaker 2 you know what it's the opposite i went to and dallas is really good i think dallas is good um i went into dallas and they were overwhelmed i don't remember which what it was it was a holiday or something and they were overwhelmed and so they said uh You don't have to take anything out of your bags for the x-ray, you don't have to take off your shoe or your belt.

Speaker 2 Just go. And I'm like, wait a minute, wait, wait a minute.
If you can do that because we're backed up, why the hell are we doing that all the time? Right.

Speaker 2 All of a sudden, it's okay not to fly safely? No.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Come on. God, it pissed me off.

Speaker 2 It's irritating. You know, I don't understand.
Do you understand, Pat, how

Speaker 2 so many people are just so blind to this, they just think

Speaker 2 they just want to destroy America.

Speaker 2 The sheep. Yeah.
Absolute sheep. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because if we did it the way the Israelis do it,

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Speaker 2 You get on the plane and they hand you an actual steak.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah, because they know you're not going to kill anybody with it.
Right. Because they've done their work.
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I mean, think about the attacks that are after LL airlines. You take one of those things hostages and you're doomed.
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Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 Pat Gray is joining me today. Stu is sick.
I don't know, he's got the sniffles or something. He's in his big fuzzy slippers today, eating bonbons on the couch.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 thanks, Pat, for joining in and filling in for him. There's a story that I don't know if you saw, but let me just give you the headline first.

Speaker 2 It's from the Salt Lake Tribune, which I think is an abomination.

Speaker 2 It's an abomination. Or an abomination, one of the two.

Speaker 2 What did I say?

Speaker 2 You said abomination. I said it's a great source.
Okay, one of the two. It's a great source of abominations.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 here's the headline. Yeah.
Meet the Utah software engineer and distillery co-owner giving notes to Elon Musk and Doge.

Speaker 2 This is a story about

Speaker 2 the woman who is

Speaker 2 exposing all of the stuff that Doge is finding. Okay.

Speaker 2 We just recently found out who she was. She's been keeping her identity quiet.
She didn't want to be doxed or anything else because she knows what that means.

Speaker 2 So she's gone under the name Data Republican.

Speaker 2 If you're not following Data Republican, you should be because she's out leading the way outside of Doge, showing the connections of where all this money is.

Speaker 2 Who's doing what? She's fantastic. Okay.

Speaker 2 And I did an interview.

Speaker 2 You should have her on. It's fabulous.
I did an interview with her. She is

Speaker 2 mute and deaf. Yeah, I've read about her.
Yeah. And I did an interview with her.
And it's fascinating to see. I mean, it's crazy to do an interview with somebody that can't speak and can't hear.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But it was a fabulous interview. So she's really, really good at what she does.
Now,

Speaker 2 her husband

Speaker 2 owns and runs a

Speaker 2 distillery,

Speaker 2 a place where you can get micro brews and everything else.

Speaker 2 So now, why did the Salt Lake Tribune

Speaker 2 feel it necessary not only to dox her and introduce her to everybody, but also then say, oh, and her husband owns this. Wow.
Okay. So they could lead a boycott.
So they could lead a boycott.

Speaker 2 So I wrote a letter yesterday, my office did, to the Tribune and to the reporter.

Speaker 2 Nationally syndicated radio host and Blaze Media founder Glenn Beck is concerned about the alleged backlash of the spirits of the Wasatch distillery as they are receiving as a result of your reporting.

Speaker 2 Why did you feel it necessary to include their family business in your reporting? How did you feel that was relevant to Data Republicans' profile? Do you regret any of the backlash to the business in

Speaker 2 review bombs and calls for boycotts in the article's comment sections? Glenn will be commenting about this on his national radio program. Wanted to give you a fair shake if you have any comment.

Speaker 2 Deadline 7 a.m. Central tomorrow, March 11th.

Speaker 2 No. No, we didn't get any comment from that reporter.
He was too busy.

Speaker 2 Just too busy. I don't know if he's out, you know, spray painting Teslas.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 Mike Lee lost his mind over this. Here is a private individual not wanting to be doxed, just showing how you can find these things using AI to show the waste in government.

Speaker 2 And here is the Salt Lake Tribune, which is only a little bit worse than the Deseret news.

Speaker 2 Am I wrong on that one? No, you're not. Okay.

Speaker 2 They're just hack organizations at this point.

Speaker 2 And why did they do this? Now there's a boycott against this distillery. And somebody said to me, Glenn, you should lead a boycott.
And I'm like, well, A, I don't drink as part of my faith.

Speaker 2 And B, I'm an alcoholic. Not a good thing for me going, you know, I need to go over that distillery right now.

Speaker 2 It's our payroll.

Speaker 2 But if I live there, I would go and put my money down and say, Hey, can I, whatever beer you're making there, what's your most expensive beer? Give me a glass.

Speaker 2 I'd put the money down on the table before they pour it and say, I don't need the beer. I just wanted to support you guys.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 this is outrageous what is happening. And quite honestly, guys, this is terrorism.
I said this earlier about the Tesla stuff. When you are firebombing Teslas,

Speaker 2 what are you doing? You're not sending a message to the driver of that Tesla. That's not what you're doing.
You're not saying, you know what,

Speaker 2 you shouldn't. You're sending a message to that driver and everyone else.
You buy a Tesla.

Speaker 2 You support Doge and what he's doing politically, and we will come after you. We'll burn your car to the ground.
Good luck with that. Who knows what could happen next? That's terrorism.

Speaker 2 Is that not the literal definition of terrorism?

Speaker 2 It is.

Speaker 2 So what is this? What is this? You're doxing. You have a newspaper coming out and saying, oh, by the way, oh, and her kids.
Her kids go to this school. You're one step away from that.

Speaker 2 What does her husband's distillery have to do with her as data Republican? What does it have to do with anything? Nothing. You want to create terror in her life.

Speaker 2 You are a terrorist and you should be treated as a terrorist.

Speaker 2 You don't do that.

Speaker 2 You don't try to make people afraid so they will stop saying what you believe is politically wrong.

Speaker 2 You don't do that. You allow free speech and you argue in the open market.
You do not say, how about this? How about this, Salt Lake Tribune?

Speaker 2 I'm going to take the reporter and I'm going to dox the reporter and I'm going to find out if he belongs to any country club and I'm going to tell you the name of that country club.

Speaker 2 I'm going to find out where he buys his clothes, where he does any business, and I'm going to expose it. And I'm just saying, I'm just going to tell you where he shops.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to tell you where he lives. I'm just going to tell you all these things about him that have nothing to do with his job.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 would they be okay with that?

Speaker 2 Would the Salt Lake Tribune say, Glenn Beck, good job. No, they wouldn't.
They would be right for calling me a terrorist.

Speaker 2 Well, what is the difference between me doing it to your reporter and you doing it to this private individual

Speaker 2 who is risking everything themselves and would not like to risk their family. But they're risking everything themselves because they believe that the government is corrupt.

Speaker 2 By the way, for all of you who don't think that, read the founders. Read George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, all of them.
They warned this would happen.

Speaker 2 They told you government is fire and you better control it or it will control you.

Speaker 2 And so all all of you revolutionaries that are revolutionary for the republic are so freaking stupid, you couldn't, you don't know your ass from your elbow.

Speaker 2 Read what the founder said. All this person is doing is trying to say there is corruption here.
We should seek out that corruption. And if it is proven to be corruption, it should be shut down.
Why?

Speaker 2 Because it's A, America, a country that is going broke, a country that is losing its soul. And if you want to save what I believe is the greatest nation ever to be on earth,

Speaker 2 as well as one of the darkest nations ever to be on earth when we go wrong.

Speaker 2 We should make sure we don't go wrong, hold up the Constitution and the rule of law, and not become terrorists ourselves.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I was going to say, I'm not going to do any of those things about that reporter. I'm not, I wouldn't say anything about this reporter.

Speaker 2 Or will I?

Speaker 2 Or will I?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know.
I haven't decided yet.

Speaker 2 Sleep well, reporter.

Speaker 2 Did he just make a threat? No, I just said, I'm not sure if I should give the information about any business you might be involved in.

Speaker 2 I'm just thinking, should I do exactly the same thing you just did to her and her family? I don't know. I have a problem with it.
But you know what? You might be right.

Speaker 2 It might be the noble thing to do.

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Speaker 2 You know, you just know something's not right.

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Speaker 2 You can either be relaxed and calm and just dismiss it and and say there's nothing there

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Speaker 2 Man, I get so angry. I guess I apologize for being so angry.
I didn't start off that story that angry, but as I started reading it and saying it, I mean, I talked rationally to Pat about it.

Speaker 2 And then I get on the air and I'm like, you know, these freaking dirtbags, they are terrorizing people. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And they think they're morally superior and can do it, but they would never allow us to do it, nor would I want to do it. Or would I?

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 maybe it is my sacred duty. Yeah, maybe it's the noble thing to do.
It's a noble thing to do to expose this reporter

Speaker 2 and who else is involved with him in his life. Completely unrelated to what he does on the reporting.
But maybe we should look into it. And don't think I won't.

Speaker 2 It's also hard because I've got a and

Speaker 2 just a searing dislike for the Salt Lake Tribune

Speaker 2 that's

Speaker 2 pretty much always been there. Yeah, we both do.

Speaker 2 So we have a, you know, we have, this is, this story about Data Republican is not about that.

Speaker 2 Right. We both have a problem with the Salt Lake Tribune, but also even worse, the Deseret News.
That thing should be sold. Should be sold.
You can't control and stand for the value.

Speaker 2 The Deseret News is owned by the church in Salt Lake. And if it can't stand for its own American and religious principles, it should be sold.
Pat Gray does a show right before me.

Speaker 2 I don't own the Blaze, okay? I'm the founder of The Blaze, but I don't own The Blaze.

Speaker 2 But if I did, and believe me, even though I don't, if Pat, who is so closely related to my show, he came from my show, and if he was doing a show on this network, And he was standing against all of the things, I would not say, well, I need a show.

Speaker 2 I cancel that show. Yeah, all of a sudden I'm pro-abortion.
Right. And I'm anti-

Speaker 2 No, I cancel that.

Speaker 2 I mothball his studio until I can find somebody that doesn't stand against all of my values because it harms my reputation.

Speaker 2 Because people then think, oh, well, Glenn must believe that because he's having him do that. Now, I don't have control of who is hired and fired from the Blaze.
At one point, I did.

Speaker 2 and I would never put up with it. Never, because it hurts my reputation.
So why is the Deseret News? I mean, you don't need it anymore.

Speaker 2 You could hire 10 people and just do the stories that actually matter eternally.

Speaker 2 And you could get 10 people, even if it's one story a day,

Speaker 2 That would be better than a whole newspaper of crap that goes against your values. It's just my opinion.
And attacks people like Mike Lee. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Calling him an extremist. Yeah.
Mike Lee is the furthest thing from an extreme. You know who is an extremist?

Speaker 2 The author of that article in the Salt Lake Tribune. And maybe he should be exposed as one of those.
Does he drive a Tesla?

Speaker 2 What car, why doesn't he drive a Tesla? Maybe somebody should firebomb that car because it's not a Tesla. No!

Speaker 2 That makes you a terrorist.

Speaker 2 But I'm guessing that his cohorts that work with him are probably laughing at people who are firebombing Teslas. It shows them you shouldn't buy a Tesla.
Really?

Speaker 2 Teslas and the Chargers, which, by the way, are paid for by us. So you're firebombing your own

Speaker 2 dollars.

Speaker 2 You got him. You got him.

Speaker 2 Yes. Oh, these people are so stupid.
Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 It's really, truly amazing that they can actually tie their own shoes, let alone get into a car. Well, they might have a Tesla that drives them to the Salt Lake Tribune.
Yeah, hopefully.

Speaker 2 Because otherwise they wouldn't be able to get there.

Speaker 2 May I just say that,

Speaker 2 what's the name of this thing? The Wasetch Distillery. The Spirits of the Wasetch Distillery.
I'm an alcoholic, but if I were there and I was driving by, I would go in and say,

Speaker 2 here,

Speaker 2 beer for everybody who wants to come in today because they're getting a boycott, unreasonably so.

Speaker 2 They're gonna get all kinds of backlash.

Speaker 2 But it was the noble thing to do, wasn't it, Mr. Reporter, who so far hasn't been named on this program?

Speaker 2 Will he be?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 This is Glenn Beck.