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So last night, the president spoke and,

you know, he started out. It was, it was, let me give you the overall first.

I've never seen him more disciplined. I think the speech was like, I don't know, it was over by 20 minutes after, and I think he ran six minutes late.

I mean, I've never seen, he doesn't say hello in less than 20 minutes.

He stayed on script the whole time. He was extraordinarily disciplined.
He was forceful

with it.

And he explained what has been done in the last year.

And he started out saying, you know, a year ago, our country was dead. Now we're the hottest country.
We're the hottest country in the world right now. Nobody's ever seen anything like it.

He said, you know, when he took when he took over, inflation was the worst in 48 years.

caused prices to be higher than ever, making life unaffordable for millions of Americans.

And he said, over the past 11 months, we brought more positive change to Washington than any administration in American history. There's never been anything like it.

He talked about successfully negotiating $18 trillion of investments into the country.

And he said, but the real problem for most Americans was under Biden, car prices rose 22%. In many states, he said 30% or more.
Gasoline rose 30% to 50%. Hotel rates rose 37%.
percent.

Airfare rose 31 percent. And he said they're all coming down.
They're coming down fast, faster than anybody expected.

Drugs brought in by ocean and sea are now down 94 percent.

He said, we broke the grip of sinister woke radicals in our schools.

I've restored American strength, settled eight wars in 10 months, destroyed the Iran nuclear threat, and ended a war in Gaza, bringing for the first time in 3,000 years peace to the Middle East.

Then he talked about, you know, what's coming next.

Now,

here are my thoughts on this.

You know, everybody was speculating. He's going to say we're going to war.

What would give you that impression? I mean,

he doesn't...

That is the very last resort, and we are not out of tricks with Venezuela. I don't think we're going to war with Venezuela.

I think he's making it look like we're going to war to freak Venezuela out and to get Maduro out. But I don't think we're going into war.
I hope we're not.

I could be wrong, but I just don't think that's his deal. But everybody was speculating yesterday.
He's going to announce we're going to war. No, he's not.

However, is it possible that they were leaking this? Because I saw this as the kickoff of the campaign. I saw this as, okay, this is the message for 2026

for the Republicans.

And it was so disciplined and so tight. You know, he gets when the president calls a speech at night and says he wants to address the nation, the networks are asked to carry it.
Sometimes they don't.

They don't have to. But if he said, look, I only need 20 minutes, I'm sure everybody at, you know, NBC and everybody, I mean, I did, rolled my eyes like, oh, yeah, it'll be 20 minutes.

It'll be an hour and 20 minutes. But it was tight and focused and 20 minutes.

I wonder if the war thing wasn't a way to get them to cover this.

If it wasn't a leak from the White House, you know,

I think he might announce war tonight. And then everybody was going to cover it.
I don't know.

Maybe that's me being too cynical.

Can you be too cynical at this point?

Here's the thing. He said a couple of things that

I didn't think

will serve him well. And it's only because,

and I think you feel the same way. I know I'm sick of it, and I've been reporting on it since the beginning of Obama.
And I hated it when Obama was doing it. And he did it for eight years.

Biden did it for four years.

And here's the line.

I inherited a mess.

I inherited trouble. I'm cleaning up somebody else's mess.
True. It's absolutely true.
It wasn't with Biden.

It kind of was with Obama at the beginning, but when you're seven years into it, you haven't cleaned that up yet. I mean, you got to get a bigger mop.

But

it's definitely true under Donald Trump. However, people have heard that now from the last three presidents, and they're tired of it.
It has no meaning anymore, even though it's true.

And I want to go back to truth here in a second. The other thing that I don't think will serve him well is

the economy is doing better than ever. You're going to love it.
It's great. People are not.

That might be true. In my opinion, it's not.
It is doing much, much better. I mean, you know, you had, what was it, 25%, 30% inflation add to everything.

You got to go into negative inflation to be able to get those prices down. They're going to be up there.
And what's happening is we still are adding 2% inflation, and that's the target.

I don't know why we put up with that target, but that's the target. So you'll have 2% price increases every year.
Now we're at 3%.

We get the numbers out today. It might go into the twos.

Are they out yet?

Yeah, 2.7 was the number today which is 2.7 yeah it's it's better than they yeah it's going the right direction they did say part of that might be because of the government shutdown so we're not sure how long that lasts but positive movement anyway

yeah so that's fantastic um so coming down to 2.7

remember we were at nine

uh and it was compounding year after year after year. So we're, we, he is bringing things down.

And the price of some things like gasoline and eggs, and some of the stuff you get at the grocery, are way down. They're not back to where they were in 2016 or 2020 because,

I mean, he's just trying to stop the inflation.

So, what's happening, and this is what I say will serve him well, is

there was this great marketing book out in the 80s called Positioning the Battlefields of Your Mind or Battlegrounds of Your Mind. And it was a book that

led to the Cola Wars. It was the understanding of the Cola Wars and how Pepsi could beat Coca-Cola.
They had to change the perception. And the perception was that Coca-Cola was it.

And Pepsi had to change it, and that's why they became the choice of a new generation. And for a while, Pepsi was,

it may have even beaten

Coke, but there was this real cola war back and forth the whole time.

They didn't change the flavors. They didn't change anything.
Pepsi was what Pepsi had always been. Coca-Cola was what Coca-Cola had always been.
They needed to change the perception, okay?

Because perception, whether it's true or not, perception is reality. Whatever people perceive

and feel is their reality. So it's the reality that you have to deal with.

People don't feel the relief yet. They see the prices coming down, but they're still paying out the same amount of money that they were paying out under

Joe Biden. It's not getting worse, except by 2.7% overall, but it's not getting better to them.
You know, certain categories are,

but overall, you're still struggling with your rent and everything else.

And so people's perception is

it's not what I expected because what I expected was 2019. I expected to have jobs and the economy rolling and the price of housing coming down and everything else.

And it's not. So what's not going to serve him well is saying your perception is wrong.
He might be right.

Doesn't matter.

You can't tell people their perception is wrong. You have to change that perception.
And the only way to really change it is to demonstrate it or through ads. You know, back in the Cola War

era, they just change slogans and do ads and everything else. But people don't buy slogans anymore.
They don't buy ads anymore. They don't even trust logos anymore.
So that won't work.

You actually have to change people's people's lives to change their perception. Now,

25% last month said that they felt that their personal finances were doing better.

That was last month or the month before last. This last month, it's up to 27%.

So he's moving that in the right direction. But to win, you've got to be over 40%,

easy over 40%, have to feel like their personal finances are getting better. 27% is not enough, but it is moving in the right direction.
So when the president says he's got to relate to the people who

have defended him, liked him,

and believe in him, he's got to say, I know you're feeling the pinch.

You know, one of the things he said last night, but I don't think it's connected yet to people, and it's because it's absolutely true why do you think that you are spending more every month for your rent why

you're spending more on rent

because there's too many people chasing too few houses and apartments you cannot add 10 to 15 million people in four years while you're not building things.

You can't add 10 million people into your country country and say oh by the way go get housing where are they going to get the housing the housing you're going to have a shortage which will cause the prices to go up so until you get rid of those 10 million people you're not going to lower the price and especially if the government is subsidizing them because

I mean, look at the NGOs. If people know the government's going to pay it, they'll keep the price up.

Look what happened with NGOs. Look at what's happening at universities.
Why do you think universities are so expensive? They weren't like that until the government said, we'll guarantee the loans.

Once the government said, we'll guarantee the loans, prices went through the roof because everybody could get a loan.

That's the problem. He's got to connect this.
And I think he started last night and he's done it a few times.

Somewhere or another, it's really got to connect with the American people. You cannot solve the housing prices and not solve the immigration price crisis.

You have to send people back home or you're going to have to wait five years as we build new apartment complexes and new buildings and we stabilize under these 10 million new homes that were needed.

That's not popular and nobody's going to wait that long.

Somehow or another, he's got to make that point and it's got to connect with people to give him more time to turn things around on the housing.

Now, he also was really strong in saying that he was appointing. Wait until you meet the guy I'm going to appoint the head of the Fed.

Well,

I'd like to meet that person too. I'd like to know who that is.

He says he's going to do it right after the first of the year because our Fed chair is leaving after the first of the year, I think in February.

And he said he's a guy who understands low interest rates

and

low mortgage rates,

looser money.

That could be really dangerous with

inflation, but we'll see. But that could be a turning point.
One way or the other, a new Fed chair will be a turning point.

And hopefully Trump and this new Fed chair know what they're doing

and it won't make things worse.

I don't know how you can at the Fed. I don't know.
I mean, they've already made everything so bad. All right, more in just a second.
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Hello, Stu.

Glenn, how are you?

Good. What did you think of the president's speech last night? What did you take away? You know, it's interesting.

You started talking about the phrasing of blaming it on essentially Biden, right? I inherited a mess.

He did.

He did. That's 100% true.
What I took from that was actually kind of optimism of his messaging. in that I think that's a much better message than what he had been doing previously.

It's a hoax and, you know,

it's a scam

and a con job, right? Like I think the improve

this is what you do, right? When you get a new, when you come in as a new administration, you have a window there where everyone understands your policies aren't in place first.

And so pointing to the past president and saying, I inherited this, I'm trying to fix it, is legitimate for a while.

What we complained about with Barack Obama, of course, was that he was doing it in 2015.

Like George Bush, that guy. Still blaming George Bush.
Yeah, still blaming George Bush. So I don't think it's completely inappropriate.

And of course, when you know there's a real economic problem, saying, hey, I inherited a mess, I'm trying to fix it, is something to help buy you time.

And I think that is a much better approach than I've already fixed things and people don't seem to realize it. Right.
So I actually was more positive in that change of messaging.

It's not ideal, but I did think it was an improvement. So I should have been more clear on this.
I don't have a problem with that message today.

But by the time we get to the midterms, that won't be enough. Right.
Okay. And people are tired of hearing that.
They've heard it from every president forever and ever and ever.

So it will be effective in the first year, maybe,

maybe 18 months. But after that,

you got to, it's yours. It's yours now.
And whether that's reality or not, it doesn't matter. The perception is you've been there long enough.
You should have had this fixed by now.

And that's very likely very unreasonable with something like this, but that's perception. Yeah, I think that's true.

I think, too, you know, the vast majority of people will have their mind completely made up as to who they're voting for, you know, by summer. Yes.
Right.

So you have another six months or so to try to put this back together. And you don't have to have it perfect.
I don't.

If you're showing improvement is what the big thing is. You know, we noted the improvement in the inflation rates.
I will, I will not.

I believe we're going to wind up hearing from the media that they think the Trump administration is playing with these numbers.

We'll see if that happens because he had a bunch of changes in those offices where they detect those. That'll be a fun back and forth over the next six months.

But I do think if you can show improvement, right, if this is down at 1.9%, by the time we get

to the middle of the year, it's going to be hard for people to deny that things are going in the right direction.

And that's all I think you need to be able to at least get the best result possible out of this midterm.

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I'll be home

for Christmas.

So something the president said yesterday that I thought was really, really good

because it will make a difference and it's not a redistribution of wealth.

He talked about his warrior dividend.

He said every

the 1.45 million military personnel are going to receive $1,776

before Christmas. And he says it's recognition for their service and sacrifice.

He says, one time, it's coming from tariffs because the big, beautiful bill, tonight I'm proud to announce more than 1.45 million service members will receive a special we call warrior dividend, a warrior dividend in honor of our nation's founding in 1776.

We're sending every soldier $1,776. The checks are already

on the way.

I think this is better than choosing another group of people, you know, who's poor and let's give them the money.

I don't like when the government hands out money, but if anybody, I mean, they're already on the payroll and they're underpaid, and if anybody can use it, it's the military.

$1,700 is a huge amount for most people in the military, gigantic amount. That will make an actual impact in the people's lives who I think actually deserve.
You know,

we don't do enough for our military.

And so it's the best kind of, I don't know, stimulus package I've ever seen. Although this isn't a stimulus package, I don't think.

Even though these people are going to pump it into the, I can guarantee you they're going to get it and they're going to use it on their family for Christmas, which, you know, will stimulate the economy so much.

Warrior dividends. How do you feel about that, Stu?

A bit conflicted for a few reasons.

I obviously 100% agree with you that our military members deserve more money, and I'm excited they're going to get it.

And I have no, my feeling on that from a general perspective is very, very positive. Like, if we're going to give money to anybody,

our military is

great. And, you know, so that's obvious.

But I had a couple of concerns. One being, you know, we're not exactly at a place where we just have tons of extra money lying around to, you know, to throw around to people.

I know the argument is with tariffs that we have enough, but of course that pays only for a slight amount of our deficit.

So we are still, this is all money that we don't actually have, number one. And number two,

my under, and I don't really understand.

Maybe you have a better understanding of this, but like my understanding of the mechanism of how we spend money as a government is that the Congress passes a bill to allocate money when you're talking about a policy like this.

And

I think the president's hard. I get rid of that that under Obama.
I don't.

Well, I didn't get rid of it. Did it? Congress.
No, I know. It is still the law of the land, but nobody is paying attention to it anymore.
Congress doesn't even pay attention to it anymore.

They don't seem to care. Now, and the other thing with this part of it, particularly, Glenn, is quite obviously there would be very little resistance to a bill that did this.

If you put a bill in front of Congress that said we're going to give a bonus of $1,776 to all of our military members,

I would love to do it just to dare the Democrats to vote against it, right?

Like even if you take out all the concerns about spending, this obviously would pass because no one would have the balls to vote against it outside of like Rand Paul and Thomas Massey.

There be a couple people, but it'd be pretty limited.

So

it could have gone through the normal processes. I don't know if Trump is just saying like, I want to be, you know,

I want to dare someone to try to stop stop me here.

Or if it's just, look, there's a pile of money in a military budget somewhere that he can move around and he has control of it because he's commander-in-chief. I don't really understand the mechanism.

So I have some questions around that.

But, you know, of course, generally speaking, when you're thinking of the most offensive things that the government does, giving our military more money is nowhere near the top of that list.

Is not what it is not, not it. Not it.
They deserve it. They deserve it.
Now, the Republicans passed something.

I love this.

They just passed their health care plan,

which is just stay with Obamacare, without re-upping the insurance part of it. So they're not for the subsidies.
This is not going to pass. This is not going to pass.

This is just something that they passed

in the House. It's not going to make it past the Senate, not going to go to the President's desk.
Here's what's going to happen. You're going to see the House and the Senate.

No, no, no, let me rephrase that. I started that with a lie.

While you're not paying attention this Christmas,

you will not see, but it will happen anyway, the House and the Senate will re-up the insurance subsidies and they will pass this health care thing while nobody's paying attention.

And then it'll be over.

I mean, that's exactly what's going to happen. There's not a chance we come back.

And on January 5th and we say, oh my gosh, look, wow, they're going to close down the government because they didn't pass this health care thing.

Well, good for the Republicans for having a spine and standing up. Nope, not going to happen.

It does appear the chance of the Republicans folding here is approaching 1 trillion percent. I don't know.

We're having major inflation in the president. 38 trillion percent.
Okay, that's right. They take 38 trillion percent.
Yeah.

I don't know because basically what has happened is enough Republicans have already folded on this for a three-year extension of these subsidies, which again is a giveaway on top of the normal Obamacare to make it Obamacare turbo

and lock in even higher subsidies because the old Obamacare plan failed. So that is what we're talking about here.

So going back to Obamacare as passed is now the worst thing in the world to even the Democrats. Fascinating.

But they have enough Republicans who have changed sides on this, and they are now, the Democrats have enough enough votes to force a vote on this bill, which almost definitely will pass the House because they already have the votes, and other Republicans will want to now change sides so that there's a public vote.

So it'll likely pass there. It's possible, obviously, that they stop it in the Senate.
They could stop it in the Senate. I don't know.
I don't think that there's much appetite to stop this.

Honestly, at the end of the day, you know, you probably will have a chance of doing it in the Senate, though. That's our best chance.

My guess is what happens is once the pressure is there, they find a way to maybe adjust it and do a year

or something like that that gets them past the election.

But of course, what happens in a year? And we all know what happens in a year. It's the same thing that's going to happen this year.

It's the same thing that happened four years ago when the first part of this bill

went away in 2022 or 2021. They came in and they said, okay, let's extend it for four more years.

So my guess is there's probably going to be some adjustments to this plan, but I do not expect at all the Republicans to hold the line on this.

Not only do they no longer want to get rid of Obamacare, they don't even want to get rid of Obamacare turbo.

They passed this thing yesterday, which does give them the argument to say, hey, we did pass something.

We do have a plan. It's right here.

Stu. But that's all I've done.
But understand the reality. Understand the reality.
We can't get things done unless we have the House and the Senate and the White House and the Supreme Court.

So we just have to wait until we have a time when... What? Glenn, I have breaking news.

We've got all that. We've got all of that right now.
Now, I will say there is a filibuster in the Senate that does hold you up a little bit. Yeah, but not as big as we need it or

really want. We have to have the House, the Senate, the White House, and the Supreme Court, but we have to have more than what

we said when we said those things. We just need those, you know, all three branches of government.
We need all three branches of government, but more. It's like

we need that turbo, kind of like Obamacare turbo. It's never quite enough to get the job done.
Never is, Glenn.

I really do expect if we had a 9-0 Supreme Court, the presidency, and 534 combined congressmen and senators, they'd say, we got to get that last one. We can't do this with this guy over here.

There's one Democrat in Congress. We can't do this.
That's exactly what I would expect.

Standing in the way. It's pathetic.
But it reminds you that your goals are not their goals.

That's what I keep coming back to. Forever, Glenn, when we started this show, I will say,

I started this show very young.

I was in my early 20s and didn't really understand lots of things. I was unfortunately learning from you, which obviously turned into a catastrophe.
But

you know, as I learned here, at the beginning, my thought was, us as conservatives, as Republicans, as the right, agree on a lot of different things.

And there are disagreements as to how we get there, right? There are sometimes people think we need to kind of fold or sometimes we need to compromise and we have to move slowly.

And some other people over there saying, hey, no, we got to go all the way right now. We're going to go all the way.
And there's that disagreement. You remember this from going back in history, right?

Slavery was like this.

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Well, one of my favorite people in the government, somebody I have an awful lot of trust and I support a great deal, and I'm glad she's at the DOJ,

is Harmee Dillon. She gets things done.
She is fantastic. She is, I mean, she is laser-focused on the civil rights division.
That's her division

at the Justice Department, Civil Rights Division.

They've announced now they've filed several lawsuits against Colorado, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Nevada, and they're going after Fulton County, Georgia, related to the 2020 election.

Those suits have already been

filed, and she is now eyeing civil rights action against the Fed, state officials, anybody who is pursuing Trump and MAGA.

And, you know,

this really came, started, the talk started after the FBI was like, oh, yeah, yeah, we weren't for the Mar-a-Lago thing

in Palm Beach in 2022. We recommended against that.
Civil rights, are those charges coming after state officials and feds that were involved in this? I hope so. Harmeet joins us in 60 seconds.

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I'm so glad that you could join us today, Armit.

In case you don't know,

she's the DOJ's Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights. Harmee,

let's start with what's happening

with the

cases in several different states on what happened in 2020. What have you found and what's being done about it?

Well, I can't really talk about either of those things, but what I can say is that there's a lot of concern about

the weaponization of the Department of Justice and

beyond weaponization, abuse, a process that happened here.

I mean, the recent story in the news, of course, that people are talking about is the raid on the president's home in Mar-a-Lago, where apparently, you know, the federal government here, the Department of Justice, was aware that it was not supported by probable cause.

And a political decision was made to override that and weaponize the DOJ. And, of course, the other side keeps gaslighting us.
for doing this, but we're trying to play things by the book.

So we do our investigations and we go where the evidence leads us.

And I can tell you there's a keen interest in this Department of Justice to hold people accountable for abusing the civil rights of American citizens, including the president, who is an American and is entitled to the same civil rights as you and I and everybody else.

And so we're really focused on it.

So, Harmeen, honestly, when that story came out about the FBI this week, when these stories break, it's nothing new.

We knew that. I mean, now the evidence is there, et cetera, et cetera.
But we knew it. And so it doesn't ever seem new.

And then when that story first came out,

I'm reading, I read it and I just dismiss it. And it comes up in my production meeting the next morning and all my producers are talking about it.
And I said, why are you guys talking about it?

Nobody's going to go to jail. Nothing's going to happen.

Where is the DOJ? And then they pointed out your name was attached. And I thought, oh, wait a minute.
I am interested because maybe something will happen.

How does this process work? What has to happen before we start to see indictments or, you know, trials if laws were broken?

All right. Well,

let me choose my words carefully here. So,

you know, the FBI is part of the Department of Justice. Okay.
They're across the street

and they have their own leadership and management. And, you know, the prior administration hid a lot of things over there.

We know that from stories that are unfolding and the work that they're doing over there. And so

I can't open up an investigation without some evidence. And so when evidence comes in, then we're able to start an investigation.

And unlike the other side, we don't sort of start with a conclusion and then try to find evidence that Cherry Pick said. We find the evidence.
and then we go and follow where that leads us.

And so in my case, one of the statutes that I administer here is the Klan Act and federal conspiracy statutes, including

Section 241 and 242,

they

talk about a conspiracy to violate rights, and that can include state officials.

Typically, most of our jurisdiction here at the Civil Rights Division involves state actors violating federal civil rights, and not so much federal actors.

But in theory, there could be private individuals, potentially federal actors, if you can pierce

appropriate immunities, who conspire to violate civil rights. And so

conspiracy cases involve connecting multiple dots and multiple

sometimes people across states and jurisdictions.

And what we have here, just to be zooming out, is multiple cases that were brought against the president and multiple jurisdictions involving multiple state actors.

So at a minimum, I think every state actor involved in these conspiracies should be concerned. Whether or not we can tie feds into that or private people,

you know, is going to be an interesting legal question, and there are a lot of qualified immunities and privileges that we have to pierce through to get there. So I'll just leave it at that.

It is complicated.

It is challenging, but there's an appetite to do it because if we don't hold people accountable, for grossly violating our civil rights, including but not limited to judges signing off on wiretapping and invasion of

communications of attorneys, And I'm kind of mad about that because I've seen my name on the Arctic Frost list and the name of my law firm who represented numerous political parties involved in the 2020 election, the president, the president's campaign, and others.

If we let that lie,

this just becomes like Venezuela or some other tinpot dictatorship.

We lose our ability to hold our heads up as the paragon of the rule of law in the world. And so I think it's very important that we do that.
Now, I mean, I will tell you, just to be frank,

you know,

some folks come into the DOJ, they want to burnish their credentials a bit and then go back out and, you know, do their next thing and their focus is on that.

And then there's some of us who are kind of true believers and feel like this is our mission in life to

make sure this country that we love stays this country that we love. And I'm one of those people.
So, and I've got a lot of other patriots here like me.

And so we're looking at these facts carefully and seeing what we can do with them.

I just, I know you have to be very, very careful, and I don't want to put you in a bad situation. So I'm just, you know, I want to be careful.

Do you think that the people at the FBI and the DOJ,

in all levels, realize

that,

because I know you do, do they realize how

to the end the American people are? They're starting to lose faith. If we don't start to see people

at least charged and have a fair trial, I'm not even saying that they go to jail. Hopefully they would if they broke a law.

But, you know, showing these people, because we keep getting investigation after investigation after investigation, and then it just sits there, you know?

There's a story out today about, you know, the Clinton Foundation and all the investigations, what they found. I don't have any faith that

nobody's going to jail for that. Nobody's going to

go to jail for that. And we're at this place to where it's up to the DOJ and the FBI to do their job and then start bringing some justice.
Because if we lose in 28

and you haven't cleaned up and set clear rules of the law does matter, all these people got away with it last time. It's going to be a thousand times worse in 2028.

No, I hear you. And I'm worried about it.
I'm a citizen who loves this country. And

as you know, I've donated countless millions of dollars of my available time to

being engaged in politics. And so here's, let me just set some expectations.
So you come into the DOJ. I had about 400 attorneys plus working in my department.

I have one-third of that now because when I set the rules of what we're going to do here in this department, two-thirds of the people pieced out and quit.

And some of the ones who are left behind are leaking to the press what we are doing. And so that's the fight in my department, okay?

And then you look at where does most of this work occur when you look at the hundreds of thousands of over a hundred thousand people who work at the Department of Justice, a lot of them work for the FBI.

Well, it's only the very top, top, top layer of that that is politically appointed and committed to the president's agenda. I would say the vast vast majority of that agency is,

you know, legacy doing what they're doing, much of which was not good for America, I'm going to say. And then I don't mean to malign every agent out there.

Most of them are good, but the leadership has not been great.

The people who've gotten to the top, like even in the last administration of the President 45, James Comey and some of these others, Christopher Wright,

you know, Republicans in name only and enemies of what the American voters wanted. And they've shown that time and again in what we know publicly, and I'm sure there's more to come.

And then you look at the fact that I need to work with 94 United States attorneys to get just about anything I do done, whether it's a hate crime prosecution or civil cases that I bring.

And in some of the top jurisdictions, we can't get those people confirmed because of a dumb blue slip process that is not in the Constitution, that is not in the law.

It is a made-up courtesy of ancient times. And I'm sorry, these United States senators are wedded to it.
And here we are. I can't get my friends call me on the phone saying I gave up my law practice.

I came into the government. I had faith that I would be treated fairly because I've had an honorable and long career.
I've never been sanctioned by a court. I'm a great lawyer.
And then

this dumb process means they can't get confirmed. So now they've lost everything in their life and their career and they have to pick up the pieces and they won't get confirmed.

This is carnage to people's careers. And everyone sees that.
And this is a a feature, not a bug, of this dumb blue slip process. So

I don't know. I think

there's a problem here, too.

We have talked about the blue slip problem

on the show several times, and it has to be corrected.

It's insane. It is absolutely insane.

But

do you feel that

I mean, because it kind of sounds,

let me put it this way. Is there a possibility to do to the DOJ and FBI and everything else the things that Hegseth has done to the Pentagon?

That was riddled with all kinds of people that shouldn't have been in there. Or is it just a different thing where you just can't go in and say, you're out? Because it's not, it's, it's not military.

Because he's, he seems to be changing and we seem to have our arms around the military at least, and that's able to change.

Can we change this system in the DOJ?

We can.

I mean, we can. I mean, we're fighting with our hands tied behind our backs in a way.
I mean, look, a lot of there are a lot of,

some of my colleagues have gotten confirmed, and they're doing great work. And by confirmed, I actually don't mean really confirmed.

I mean the judges voted them in, so effectively they're confirmed, but they weren't confirmed by the Senate process. There are very few who've been confirmed by the blue slip process, which is dumb.

And so this president, one year in, doesn't have the DOJ that he wants because of the Senate. That's a fact.

And so that said, there are few, and we're looking at conspiracy cases that can be brought in places where we have a confirmed United States attorney and

favorable

makeup of the courts. Those are also few and far between.
And at the same time, we are fighting the left-wing weaponization. They're extremely efficient.
They bring cases every day.

Every single voting rights case that I have brought in the the United States has multiple interveners, the ACLU and the League of Women Voters and Lariza and yada yada yada.

And then I said, then instead of one brief, I have to file four briefs. So that's like what we're dealing with here with a small staff.

And everyone knows that I'm not giving any trade secrets away here. That's the whole point of what they do.
And so that's the system.

I think people don't realize when I see the criticism, every time I post something that I've done here or an investigation I've opened, there's a thousand negative comments from people on supposedly on my side.

And it's demoralizing to the lawyers here because no one gave up their successful practice to come here

and just be criticized all day. That's why people don't stay in the government.

I'm not surprised that people are talking about leaving at this point. It's demoralizing to be here and just be criticized all day.

So that's a function of

our social media world or what have you.

I can tell you that I am joined here by

so many patriots who some of them gave up very comfortable lives, like I did, to come here and serve their country and were determined.

And I will will consider it a failure for sure if I leave here and nothing was changed and nobody was charged and nobody was held accountable for the gross violations of our civil rights because that will simply be a green light for it to happen again, happen harder, and perhaps with no recourse and no ability to win an election in the future.

I mean, if we'd had HR1 passed, for example, you know, who knows what would have happened in this election cycle because we've had permanent, like, you know, vote by mail and no accountability.

So we are changing things bit by bit, but just not getting credit for it. I think that's also true.

I only have about 30 seconds. I'm so far behind.
I got to let you go. Are you concerned about Pongino, his resignation and what it might mean for investigations and the resetting of justice from no.

Okay. I am not.
We've got great staff over there.

And, you know, there was a co-deputy director who's stepping up.

And

I think

we have plenty of people in line to help with that. So I'm not concerned about that.
And I wish I'm. Harmeet,

you know how I feel about you. I don't want to be part of the problem.
I want to help and be part of the solution. You just reach out anytime to tell us what we can do to help.

But the patience is running thin with the American people, and you know that. Thank you for that.

I got to say one thing. We need more lawyers here.
So go to usajobs.gov and civil rights. We are hiring, and we want some base lawyers over here to help us do our jobs.

Okay. Thank you.
Armit Dylan. Thank you.
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Stu.

What did you

do?

That was an interview full of landmines that I didn't expect.

Anytime you talk to anyone involved in a legal process like this, it is always difficult because

they shouldn't be blurting things out,

their opinions or what they want to happen or whatever.

You have to respect that process. So it's difficult.
But I think the main thing she seemed to want to have communicated there was

they have a lot of obstacles to get this stuff done. And it's going to take a decent amount of time.
And it might not make everybody happy, but they are working on it.

I don't even think it's going to take a decent amount of time. It's going to take the Senate to move.

You know what the blue slip process is?

You can go through, but then the Senate, a senator in their state,

you assign a, you know, an attorney, a DOJ attorney to the state, and the senator can go, no, not that person.

Wait, wait, they've been approved by the, nope, that's my state. Nope, not that person.
So you can't get anybody through. And that's what she's talking about.

They can't put anybody in because of this process, which is not part of the Constitution. There's so many things that the Senate has done in their little rules that need to go away.

And blue slip is one of those things. It's insane the way that works.
But people have to be informed, you know?

It is amazing how many of those things exist where we just sort of take it as part of the process that we don't have people in important roles for very long periods of time.

Like that's how our government operates. Kind of all the time.

She said that to me four months in.

You know, we're just really hoping that the Senate is going to do its job. And now here she is.
And you can hear the frustration in her voice. You can hear.
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She's one of the good guys. She's really one of the good guys.
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Maybe it's much too

early in the game.

But I thought I'd ask. Welcome to the Glenbeck program.
It is Thursday. Tomorrow is our last show of the year.

Last night was the last broadcast I did on television. It's the last television show I will be doing.

It was weird. It caught me off guard a little bit.
You know, it's been 12 years on the Blaze since I've been doing television. It was a 20th year.

This is my 20th year in television since CNN.

And it,

you know, I recognized the place that it was last night, but it wasn't until I said,

And so for the last time,

Goodnight America.

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I was totally fine until that last line. I realized, wow, that's the end of an era.

So I'm not going to say that again.

It was bizarre. It was bizarre.

But thank you for watching.

And 2026 has a lot of really great things coming in store.

Let me ask, do we have Jason in the studio yet? Yes.

So Jason,

he's kind of our military kind of expert. There's a couple things going on.

First, U.S. approves largest arms package worth $14 billion for Taiwan.
We're now sending them missiles,

rockets,

howitzers, all kinds of... all kinds of things, drones.

How is that going to be received by China?

I mean, obviously, they're not going to like the increase. That's not really a change in the status quo.

So, we're not really breaking too much new ground there because we've always supplied them with weapons. So, that's not really changing.

The different context that it's in is, I guess, the elevated threat level that's in the South China Sea and Asia right now.

You've got Japan and China standing off with each other, locking radars on each other.

I watch military movements non-stop on this. There's always a group of Chinese naval vessels that go out to confront Japan.

Japan is not, you know, they're not shying away at all. In fact, they've made some comments that are very, you know, supportive of Taiwan.
If China does

go after,

you know, as they say that they're going to go after Taiwan, which is getting closer, Glenn.

It's like 2027 is the year when they want to just be ready and it's up to them at that point when they want to start pushing buttons. So we are getting closer to that.

And if you take them at their word, this is going to happen. I think it's, I think it's, and I was advocating for this,

or at least trying to push out the opinion even during the Biden administration, that I think that

the United States policy should be to, we need to strengthen our allies that can take over roles to where we don't have to lead in those areas right now. Japan is a major power.

There is no reason why that we should be operating under an agreement with them or the same relationship with them that we've operated on after World War II. How stupid does that sound?

Like, they are very powerful in their own right. They can counter China.
They should be taking the lead on that. We are a support role, if need be.
But these are realities that we have to look at.

And if we, we've got problems in our own hemisphere. And we should be looking at that right now.

So let me ask you, you know, you say 2027. And I know that's what China has said.
All indications are that China is ready in 2027 to take Taiwan.

But that would be the last year of the Trump administration.

Wouldn't it be to their advantage to wait to see if they get an AOC in?

Because, you know, you get an AOC or somebody like that in as the president, we're not going to do anything. I mean, we wouldn't even blink an eye.

Yeah, I mean,

the American political landscape for our adversaries,

it's got to be so chaotic for them.

For our adversaries, they can get someone like Putin or a G in, and they're there almost for life. So

their strategies don't really change. Ours, on the other hand, do change because we could have a new administration every four years.

I think what's extremely important for the Trump administration right now, knowing what you just said and pointing that out, is to get

everything that they can in writing when they can get these things in writing. They can set

policies, foreign policy policies, defense strategies. They can set it in motion, things that really can't be

just turned off

in the next three to four years.

You look at a lot of the president's trade policy during his first administration.

So,

in theory, those could have been turned off. But the way he set it in motion, Biden didn't even touch it because he really couldn't.

At that point, they were making so much money and they were forcing China into certain actions that they couldn't do anything about. That's what I'm looking for in our foreign policy strategy.

And that could be what they're doing with Japan, signaling to Japan: look, you need to take the lead on this. We can be the backup, you know, if

all hell does break loose and it's getting very, very dire. But you need to start taking the lead on these things.

And I see that with the Trump administration, really, all over the world, which is pretty cool to see.

So let me switch. And Stu, I want to bring you in on this this too.
The Brown University shooter.

How many days it's been? Five?

Five days?

I don't know off the top of my head. Yeah.
I mean, it's been, yeah,

I thought it was last weekend, wasn't it?

Yeah, it was last week. About a week or so.
Sunday? Yeah. So it's been between five and six days.

Everybody's freaking out. We don't have any clues yet.

I think that's, I mean, especially on a campus where they have more cameras than I think any other campus in America, there's no clues? There's nothing? Well, is that true, though? I mean,

they do have video of that. I mean, that's certainly a clue, right?

And they did today

announce, I don't think I've ever heard this terminology before. Maybe you guys know it.
I don't know if I have it exactly right, but they always have the person of interest.

And they said someone in the area or someone in the vicinity of the person of interest they wanted to talk to. So they've released another picture from a video.

It was someone who in the, I can't remember the word they use, but it was like basically someone who seemed to be maybe hanging around with this guy we want to talk to, which I guess, I don't know if they think he was involved in it or at least knows who it is, but they have better video of him, which you'd think would eventually lead them to the actual guy or at least give us a little bit more information because he's, of course, covered up fully.

This guy isn't. You can see his face pretty well for a security camera.
So I guess it's developing and going forward, but it does seem that in this

world of surveillance, it almost seems like it takes us longer to find these people today.

I'm doubting every single crime, true crime show my wife watches when we go to bed. Because they're always like, yeah, we caught him on CC TV camera.
Then we caught him. They just follow the line.

Then we caught him going to the tollway. Then we caught him buying a cheeseburger at McDonald's.
Doesn't seem to be happening.

How is that not happening?

Makes no sense. And

that's why you're hearing people saying the authorities are burying evidence, they're erasing things, et cetera, et cetera. It doesn't make sense.

And it could very well make sense, but we are so conditioned that these cameras are watching everything all the time. There's no way to get away from these cameras.

You know, it's a big brother state, blah, blah, blah.

And when you don't have that, it doesn't feel right. And so then you start looking and going, what is the university doing? Why are they, you know, what's that one guy?

I don't even want to say his name, but what's the one guy that the internet is saying?

He's the guy.

But the,

you know, the

university has erased him from the website and everything else. Yeah.

He's part of international studies. I've seen that theory.

It's always so dangerous when the internet.

Sometimes they find incredible things. Sometimes they accuse the wrong person of very serious crimes.
So obviously let the stuff play out with serious investigation rather than

the speculation on X. But, you know,

sometimes they do find the person, right? But sometimes, you know, I can't. There was somebody who was falsely accused of hanging out with.

with the couple at the Cold Plate concert that was apparently having the affair. And, you know, name was like, like, this is this person at this company.
And everyone made a big deal about it.

And then that person's like, I had nothing to do with it. I wasn't even there.
I didn't like Cold Play. So, you know,

that can go down very dark roads as well. We got to be careful with this stuff for sure.

I get everyone's frustrated, though, and like even us having some of these questions, because for far too long, some of these huge pivotal cases, we've seen the media do their spin, or we've seen law enforcement completely scrub all information.

So, you know, like we know nothing.

And then we, and then there's, you know, the way the mainstream media will handle a lot of this stuff is, you know, certain, you know, they promote certain cases and they'll put it out there like crazy, including names and, you know, ethnic groups and all the stuff.

But when it changes from whatever narrative they want, everything goes radio silent. So when things go radio silent, we're like, okay, are we being screwed again? Like, I get the sentiment.

I feel the sentiment. Yeah, I agree with that.
I think everybody does. There's some statistical backing for this, too.

The

carriage rate, rate and the murder carriage rate, which is, you know, do they solve these crimes, is way down over the past few decades.

Like, I think it peaked in the 80s and it's been dropping ever since. We're only around like 60% of murders being solved, which just seems impossible.

The surveillance data has never been larger. Yeah,

it gets larger and larger. I feel like I'm on camera everywhere I go.
Everything I pay for is on record. You know, my phone has a GPS I'm carrying around everywhere.

Like, how is it possible that could go down? It seems really unlikely. Now, maybe I'm sure the left would tell us, well, you were just accusing random black people all that time.
I don't know.

Maybe we've, you know, maybe there's some reasons I'm not thinking about on this, but that seems to me to be a striking stat. Like, that is one I would have never predicted.

I would think it would be, we'd be almost, you know,

rock solid locked up on this. You'd think almost every murder would eventually be solved.
And of course, because of

your your wife and so many others we're watching every cold case get solved on tv all the time we think that's the reality but apparently it's not

so let me take you to real quick to the mit scientist that was uh shot dead

now according to the jerusalem post israel is looking in to see if iran had something to do with that killing

And of course, people who are anti-Israel are like, of course the Jews would say that. It was probably the Jews that did it.
They want a war with Iran.

Is there any, because this guy was, you know, nuclear, you know, fusion researcher,

really, really important to us. And it was kind of like payback for what we did to their nuclear researchers.

Any thoughts on that, Jason?

Yeah, I saw that report as well. It was an unnamed source, and they said it was unverified.

Personally,

this just sounds like,

you know, nation-state gamesmanship to me. And I think that it's, it's, it's, of course, it's, it's huge news because it, like, it involves Israel.

But I think no matter where you go in a lot of these instances, you're going to see countries blaming other countries. I have no idea if this is, if this has any shred of truth at all.

I can't imagine in Iran's, it could be, but I can't imagine in their fragile state that they would be that provocative and daring daring President Trump to drop another, you know, stealth-delivered bomb.

I can't imagine that they would do that. Like, are you crazy? No.

Yeah. And that's the kind of stuff that you would find out about.

And then if, you know, if we found out about it,

we would have to retaliate. You'd kill somebody on our soil.
We'd have to retaliate. That would be a very, very stupid move on their point, on their part.
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there is a new movie coming out that is great just great angel studios has a new animated film it's uh david and it's from angel studios and uh

the guy who plays david is one of the best worship singers uh and one of the biggest uh

Christian stars, Christian music stars. I hate to say it because it sounds, it narrows him.
He's just really, really great and a ton of people know him and love him.

He's going to be on with us next. He plays David and my daughter just saw a screening of it.
I haven't had a chance to see it yet. She says it's just fabulous, really, really good.

It opens in theaters tomorrow. We're going to talk to Phil in just a second.
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We're going to get to Phil here in just a second. Phil Wickham is the worship singer, and

he plays David in the new movie

that is opening up tomorrow. Let me give you an update on something.
Do you remember?

Oh, Jeannie. She is from Chico, California.
Jeannie was the Target lady. She was the lady working at Target, I think on Monday.

And she was wearing a red shirt. And this woman, this Karen, comes up to her and it's just nasty and filming her on her video.
And like, why are you wearing that red shirt?

You're a racist and you're supporting racism. And Jeannie was just so cool.
She's like, no, that's your opinion. He wasn't.
And, you know, you can have your opinion.

I'm not going to sit here and just take this. I'm not going to argue with you.
Have a good day. And the lady's like, well, I'm taking this to your manager.
And, well, now that lady is in real trouble.

But somebody started Gibson Go, a page for Jeannie. And it is so,

it's so cool. I just, I love people.

So they wanted to make sure that she had a vacation. Just let's provide her a good vacation, like a great vacation.
Well, she's going to have an unbelievable vacation.

Yesterday, we told you, I think it was at like $50,000, which is a great vacation.

Give Sengo, Go, the people of America,

they have raised over $200,000 for Genie.

That's game-changing money for somebody like Jeannie. Just game-changing.
And it just couldn't happen to a better person.

I spoke to her yesterday off air. I just called her to say hi.

And

she was like,

I said, Jeannie, and she said, speaking. And I said, hey, Jeannie, it's Glenn Beck.
She said,

what?

I said, it's Glenn Beck. She said,

hi. And I said, I just wanted to call you and just tell you, you know, what a cool thing.
You just handled that so well. And she said,

I can't believe I'm talking to you. My life is so crazy right now.
And I said, I know, but it was real, it's really cool to watch, isn't it? She was so sweet. She's so nice.

I love those stories where someone becomes like well-known and gets in everybody's, you know, in the public eye in a way of just doing the right thing, just being cool and respectful and

just handling herself in a moment that I would never be able to handle myself that way.

She was able to keep under control. I would have been furious.

I would have been a wise ass. I would have done 20 things that I would have been embarrassed about later.
She did zero, which is awesome. Yeah.
Yeah.

And I, like you said, I love it when people become famous and they're not trying to become famous. They're just being them.
And all of a sudden their life is because she, I mean, it was so funny.

Her life has changed. Her life has changed.
And it's just for a moment, you know, it's your 15 minutes, but also $200,000. I mean, can you imagine? Wow, is that what it's up to now?

No, you're working at,

yeah, you check. I heard this morning it was $200,000.
That's what one of those. $213,000 right now.
$213,000. That's awesome.

By the way, if we want to make it any higher, givesendgo.com slash genie from Target is the place to go if you want to get involved.

And if you haven't seen the video, watch it because she's just great, just great, and you just love her after watching it. It's fantastic.

So I don't know if you saw Charlie Kirk's funeral.

I happened to be there, and

it was one of the greatest worship services I have ever seen. I've never felt anything like it.
It was a great awakening. It was

at least revival, unlike I have felt in a revival maybe in my lifetime. I mean, you could feel

God there. And when they were all singing on stage or they were talking about God, you could feel God there.
And then they'd start talking about politics and it would just kind of go away.

And then they'd start talking about God again and it would come back in.

It was like an ocean. It was unbelievable.
And the worship service was just the best. I mean, just the best.
And Phil Wickham was one of the guys. He was the worship singer for that.

And he's now the voice of David in the new Angel Studios animated film. It opens up tomorrow.
Phil's on the phone with us. Hi, Phil.
How are you?

Hi, Glenn. I'm doing well.
It's good to meet you over the phone. Yeah.

I think I was sitting right behind you. I didn't disturb anybody, but I think I was sitting right behind you

at Charlie's funeral.

Have you ever felt anything like that before?

That was a unique situation when you think of the cultural moment it was, the people that were in the room, the eyes that were globally on that moment. And then

I just think God honored a moment where a suffering,

grieving widow just said, hey, before anything is said, I want two hours of uninterrupted worship to God in honor of Charlie.

And I think that just that kind of before we say anything, before we have a president on stage,

before she even gets on stage, for her to say, I want the people that we listen to in our home when we want worship music on to come and just to sing out the name of Jesus and the gospel.

It was just beautiful. And I haven't been a part of it.
I've been a part of a lot of beautiful moments with the church, and God moves in amazing ways.

He promises when we get together to lift up his name. He promises to move.
But that was a unique moment that I will never, ever forget. Yeah.

I mean, I've felt God move before, but I've never felt him. It was like

he was there. I mean, I was talking to people who are not necessarily, you know, big Christians or, you know, and they were saying, Do you feel this? What is this? And I'm like, that's God.

That's God showing up. It was incredible, incredible.
Let me talk to you a little bit about the movie David. How'd you get involved in this?

Well, there's a long story that I won't bore you with, but the short story is that I just happened to know someone that knew someone, that knew someone, that knew that the company that was putting on this movie, the Animation Studio, was striking out trying to find the voice of adult David.

And after they tried Broadway, they tried the professional actors, they tried professional, some singers in the pop world.

They just thought, well, maybe we should try out some people that actually sing the songs of David as a living.

And

so

they looked kind of in the Christian worship leader realm. And

my name was on a list, and someone was in the room at the same time. They said, I really think you need to give Phil a call.

And it just was, you know, how people, if maybe if you got some church people listening out there, there's a phrase that I grew up listening to because my dad's a minister, you know, when something you can't explain, they say, well, that must have been a God thing, you know?

And that's what it felt like. And honestly, Glenn,

when I kind of heard that I was in consideration, my eight-year-old self that like bought the Lion King soundtrack and was jumping around, like singing along to the Lion King.

I just, I've always had the secret dream of animate, of voicing an animated character, but I never pursued it.

I never thought it would be on my, you know, come across my desk.

But when this came across and the fact that it's David, I mean, man, I mean, for lack of better words, I've plagiarized so many of David's songs. You know what I mean? With my words and songs.

I don't think he's got an attorney. I think you're okay.
Yeah.

Hopefully he's cool with it when I see him in heaven.

So the dude, this character that I've known about my whole life that has inspired the story of David and Goliath has inspired billions of people.

And just in my mind, when I thought of families going in and young people being awakened to the stories of God that we know from the Bible in fresh new ways, it just, there was so many boxes that checked for me that I just remember thinking, man, if I can't act, I don't want to do this.

And I told them, I was like, I'm unoffendable. If I'm horrible at this, just kick me out the door.
I don't want to be horrible in a movie as much as you don't want to be horrible in a movie.

But if I can do this, I'll work so hard. I'd love to do it.

So, anyways, I'm already going longer than I wanted to, but after a couple auditions, some moments of prayer, I got a call and I was in the airport.

They said, hey, you know, we'd love what you brought in the auditions. They're like, what's your middle name again? And I was like, David.

And they're like, well, how would you like that to be your first name in a a movie? And so that was about a year and a half ago. And it's been a beautiful, beautiful journey.

And now I can't believe it's coming out tomorrow.

I have to tell you,

you know,

there's one thing when you can write and sing music, in some ways,

you kind of live forever. You know, there's songs that, you know, artists that I listen to from time to time that I really love.

And, you know, they don't know that they're still impacting me or anybody anybody else

and when it comes to music and animation

you're in the hearts of children forever and I understand what you're saying about you know wanting to be in the you know in the animated world like you know you as an eight-year-old kid with a lion king because it's a totally different thing you're going to be there forever it awakens hearts i mean I just

I remember when my girls who are now you know 14

12, and 10, but, you know, Frozen was huge when they were just really young. You know,

those songs were all over the place in my house, in my car, you know. And to think that I could bring those kind of moments into families' lives, but it's not just songs about ice and snow,

but it's songs that carry, which are beautiful in their own right. Yeah, yeah.

These are songs that carry like the hope and truth and ideas that we get out of the Bible about trusting in God and faith. And, you know, there's a light,

there's a theme through the whole movie about like follow the light, the word of God. You know, David, in the psalm, it says, thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path.
And

there's this theme of God being our shepherd and that we can trust him and that he's with us. And just for those kind of themes to sink in through such a fun, beautiful medium, you know.

And then, well, the cool thing about these movies having songs is that it, you know, 20%, 15%, whatever it is of the movie are these, are these things, you know, it's not easy to remember scripts, you know, or lines and kind of remember how it made you feel.

But when you go home and your kids are saying in the back, hey, turn on, turn on the soundtrack, like the ideas and the story of that movie sink deep, deep down in your heart.

And so to be a part of that, I'll just, I'll, I'll end that this moment with like one story.

When I went to the first screening I ever saw this movie, I, side note, I was very nervous because I was in a room full of professional actors and directors, and I'm just a newbie in there.

Like, I hope I didn't mess this thing up, you know.

But I'm watching it, and it was beautiful, and right in front of me, I didn't notice until the end, but when the lights came on in the theater, it was this young boy, he probably wasn't older than seven.

He turns to his mom with these wide eyes and just says, Is that really what God did? Is that really in the Bible? Like, it awakens something in his heart.

And I couldn't help but get misty-eyed because all of the last year and and a half of working on this movie and being a part of it and dreaming about it was for moments like that of kids and young people and families being awakened to this idea that we're not alone, that this isn't just a once-upon-a-time fairy tale, but these are stories that have been handed down for generations of what I believe are truths.

And I just really hope this brings hope into a world that is desperate for it and light into a world where we are so confronted with the darkness lately.

I'm just so excited for this movie to come out.

It is out tomorrow in theaters, December 19th. That's tomorrow.

And Phil plays the, he plays David. He's the voice of David in it.
Phil, thank you for being on the program. Really appreciate it.
Hope we get a chance to meet in person and

have a chat in person.

That'd be great. It's fabulous.
I would love to.

Yeah, I'd love to see you in person. Thanks for having a moment for us to brag on how great great the whole team did on this movie.
And God bless you guys.

God bless you, Phil. Let me just play a quick clip of the movie and then commercials.

David, are you ready to be

the next

king?

What? No. No?

Don't mess this up for me, David.

I get Speed Princess.

I'm just a shepherd.

We already have a king. We will crush your kingdom.

Those are fighting words. Spring out, Goliath.

He's huge.

Searching for the answer in the moments I'm afraid.

Yep, we're dead. If you want the secret of freedom and feeling alive,

I told you.

He's brave. He is true.
No! It's so harmful, too.

Come on and follow the light.

David, you have stolen the hearts of my people. I have never wanted the throne.

What happens now? You stole in David fight to the death.

I never asked for this.

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The true battle is not against flesh and blood, but in our hearts.

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That's my daughter, Cheyenne, and a Christmas album she put out last year.

Gosh, I can't believe it's been a year. You should hear

the difference in her now. I mean, it's...

I'm listening to it now and I'm like, oh, she's, she was cute. She was a cute little girl.
And she's growing up so fast.

But anyway.

All right. Still in our holiday playlist.
Like, it's funny because it's weird because I know her, you know, but like we'll be going, like, it'll be like Frank Sinatra, and then it's Michael Bouble.

And then your daughter just comes on. Like,

it's so scraping. It is weird.
It is weird. She was, I don't remember where she was.
She calls us. She's in a store.
And,

she's hearing, you know, Frank Sinatra and Michael Bouble and everything else. And then her song comes on in the store.
Oh, wow. And she's like, what is happening? And she calls us up.
Listen, listen.

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So cool. That is so cool.

One of the greatest, one of my favorite scenes of like a classic film is that, what was it, That Thing You Do? Remember that movie with Tom Hanks?

He was the, I think, the manager of like a 50s like beatles type band and i don't think i ever saw that oh really oh it's i mean it's such a i don't know it's a good movie i i like it i remember liking it but there's the one scene at the beginning where you know they have this single it's kind of catchy and they have the new drummer in there and and then it gets they're in the car and it comes on the radio for the first time and you know i'm a radio nerd of course as well going back so like thinking of that moment where this band hears and they go crazy and they're running around around town and celebrating and telling everyone they know and it's just like such an incredible moment so the fact that your daughter actually has kind of had those moments is already in her life is amazing i know it is really neat we're working on something for next year another album and i'm going to do a christmas tour now i haven't done a christmas tour and i don't know how long um i'm going to do a christmas tour and if she will join me will she'll join me because

She can be very funny.

Oh, yeah. Because she, I mean, there's an area, right? Oh, definitely.
I call her Lucy because she's like Lucille Ball. I mean, she's really funny.
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So,

you know, I was gonna do a

I was gonna do tell you the story about Frosty the Snowman and how that was made and everything else and the guy who played

Frosty because he's kind of a voice that is lost.

His name was Jackie Vernon, and he was a comedian back in the 60s. And

he was a comedian that

life changed in the 60s and people became more cynical and everything else. And he was just kind of this everyman that was just very, you know,

he just flew under the wire. And it was just somebody that was not loud and, you know, not,

you know, not crass.

And Lenny Bruce kind of changed all of that and comedy started changing. And he just kind of went away.
And he was a big name at the time. And, you know, at the end of his life, he was talking about,

you know, how he wasn't really known anymore. and they never recognized, people never recognized him.
He died, you know, right around, I don't know, 1990 or so.

And I found this quote. He said, if a child somewhere hears my voice and smiles every Christmas, then I did all right.

And I thought, okay, I got to build a story on this.

This is a great, you know, this is a great story.

And I started doing my research, and I found out that in the 90s, one of his kids came out and said, yeah, another interesting fact about my dad was we found out he had four families. Like,

wait, what?

Yeah, Frosty apparently

had families, and he named his son, I can't remember what name, like, you know, Doug.

Every family that had a boy, it was Doug.

So he was never calling his sons the wrong name. And none of them knew.

None of them knew. It's true.
It's nuts. Yeah.

Wow. It takes a little bit of the magic out of it.

For a little bit of the research that I did, it seems true. I saw that and I'm like, ah, this story's not worth telling, you know, or at least putting any work into.

This sounds like an incredible story. What are you talking about? This is the exact type of story we need to hear.
Yeah, I know. It's not the happy Frosty the Snowman kind of story.

It's Frosty was slutty and maybe he should have melted.

You know what I mean?

Happy birthday. That seems like a good tagline for a new Frosty movie.
Frosty was slutty, and maybe he should have melted.

You'll be glad he's dead in the end.

Gosh.

Let me go through some of the audio.

Let me start in Australia. There's a great story that's coming out of Australia.

They had the shooting over the weekend, and one of the survivors

was talking to Sky News about how their home in their neighborhood is known for always having the large menorah

in the neighborhood. And

let them tell the story. Listen to this.
Cut one, please. And we have a big menorah outside our home, and we've become that home in Randwick that all the neighbors know.

And we keep it up all year because since October 7th, especially, we just feel the community needs that. And we've gotten so much positive feedback for it.

And when we finally made it out of the beach and got home that night our sons our children were crying and they said please turn off the benorah our home is going to become its market and my husband and I looked at each other we said no way we're not going down like this we don't turn off menorahs we don't hide our gippers we stand proud and loud but our children were crying and they begged they said please mom mama

Turn that menorah off and so I looked at them and I said as a mother we're going to turn it off and the next day a Christian demer came past I wasn't home I was in the hospital with Khyla and she said yesterday my daughter drove past your house and the menorah was off and she just sobbed and she said no mom they're turning off their menorahs the evil can't win

and so when she came and said that my husband called me and I said no matter what that menorah goes back on we don't turn off menorahs we don't stop shining light.

And that would be Rabbi Ellie's message today. I can promise you, I can say with full certainty, if he was standing here today, he would say, we don't go down in darkness, we shine light.

That's the only way to push out darkness. We look out for each other.
We spread goodness. We spread kindness.
That's what we do. That's all we know.

Holy cow.

Jeez. Isn't that beautiful?

Yeah, I mean, you can hear, if you're listening on radio, you might not be able to tell, but like you can hear the

journalist, the host. The reporter.
Yeah, the reporter crying through it. I mean,

understandably, but you don't normally see that emotion from a journalist. A reporter.
Yeah. No.

Wow.

I mean, awful.

You don't normally see that kind of bravery either, though. Yeah.
You know?

I mean, that, and especially, can you imagine your kids coming to you and saying, please, mom and dad, dad, turn off the nativity scene. Please turn it off.
We're going to become a target.

I can't sleep at night. And

you would do exactly what she did. That first night you would turn it off and you'd be like, I don't want to cause this with the kids.
It's just too much stress on them.

And then having to come to them and say, no matter what, kids, no, we don't do that. Is that how you'd handle it, you think?

How would you handle that situation? Depends on how old the kids are. If the kids were, you know, 16,

I would sit them down and say,

I don't, no,

let's pray on this. We don't turn it off.
We don't turn it off. If my kids were younger and they had just come from the beach,

I would do probably exactly what she did, turn it off, and then think, it can't be,

this can't be right.

Right.

What about the option of

just, you know, basically running away and going somewhere else? I feel like as a coward, I would, I would definitely consider just like taking the kids some other place so they could try to clear it.

I, you know, I

don't know. I don't know what the right thing to do is in that spot because, of course, it's your children.
Like, you want to do anything you can to shield them from

what likely is going to be the most traumatic thing that ever happens to them. And they're like five or six years old.
I mean, I can't imagine trying to extend that, but of course, it's important to

teach them. I mean, it's the ultimate way to teach them about the importance of faith.

That's a tough one. I went to a neighbor's house last night.
They were having a Hanukkah candlelighting.

And

me not being so smart, my security detail, they're in the car cross the street, and they're just parked.

And pretty soon, a bunch of

the host and a couple of the guests are looking outside, and they're seeing this car with this guy sitting in it. And I hear,

how long has that been here? Why is he just sitting in the car?

He's, look, he's just sitting there. Who is that? And then I realized, oh my gosh, I haven't told them.

And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

that's my guy, that's my guy. And they were like, oh, okay.
And then we started talking about

Australia. And

a couple of people that were there had lived in Australia, at least for a little while, and they said it always felt like the safest place on earth to be Jewish.

I don't know why, but they were like, it was the safest place. And I'm like, have you seen the spiders? I mean, they'll attack any faith.

but

you could it was

it was weird

to be

I don't know may have been the only Christian that was there I don't know

but everybody talking about how this is affecting them and how it is it's happening all around the world to hear people talk about England and

100% agree.

A couple that was there, their daughter is in England studying over in England, something, and coming home next year. And

somebody said, she's got to come home. She's got to come home.
Got to get out of England. And a Canadian that was there said, oh, it's not worse than Canada.
Canada is about to fall.

And then somebody else said, yeah.

England is about to fall. And I sat there and I'm listening and they're right.
And I sat there and I listened and I thought, listen to what the conversation is.

Jews aren't safe.

Nowhere is really safe. The world's gone insane.
Canada is going dark and about to fall. And

England is over. It's just the mechanics of it falling down.

I thought, what kind of world are we leaving for our kids if we don't don't stand up, if we don't put that menorah up, if we don't stand for whatever it is you believe in, if you don't stand and say, no, I'm not crossing this line, I am going no further.

Remember what somebody told me once, you know, righteous people don't suddenly become righteous. They just don't go over the cliff with everybody else.
They remember who they are.

All we have to do is just remember who we are, what we were taught, what, you know, and our kids may not have this advantage if we don't teach them and teach them in ways

like the woman with a menorah, where it's hard to learn. They have to see the hard things being done.

You can talk, talk, talk, but if you're not doing it, they're not going to learn it.

And, you know, I grew up in a time, Stu grew up in a time when,

you know,

all we have to do is remember what our moms taught us. You know,

remember what our grandmothers taught us. And you're pretty close to being right.
You know what I mean? I mean, unless, well, I don't have to go into all the bad parents that are out there.

I think we all know.

But

if you just remember what you grew up being told was right,

you're not going to go over the cliff. But you have to remember it first, remember who you are, and then stand fast in it.

And that's so hard to do. It's the only way to save the West.
At times. It is.

You mentioned

saying that

Australia seemed like the the safest place

to be Jewish.

And I had heard an interview with somebody around this story that was talking about how there was actually a lot of Jews that went to Australia essentially following the war with the idea they just wanted to get as far away from Europe as possible.

Like that was legitimately the reason why they went there.

And it just, it makes a story like this so much, you know, if it can get any worse, it's so much worse that they're just trying to escape being targeted everywhere around the world, everywhere they go.

They're constantly being targeted. And unfortunately, that seems to be increasing in some circles these days.

But I mean, like a whole generation of people who are just like, let me get away from that. And it seems to follow them wherever they go.

Because the problem isn't with Jewish people. It's not.
Of course.

People will say, oh, it's Israel. No, it's not.
It's not Israel. Because you don't have to agree with Israel.
You can disagree with all kinds of stuff. You know,

you just have to, you know, just go through a quick checklist on the Israel thing. You have a problem with them, you know, influencing our government.

Okay, do we try to influence their government or England or Germany or anything else? Of course we do. Every government does that.
Why are you singling them out?

Well, they probably, you know, they spy. Do we not spy on our allies?

Do you remember what we found out from Snowden? We do that all the time. So condemn not just them.
Other countries are all doing it as well. We should be consistent.

You have a problem with that, not Israel. Israel

is this foil,

it's a beard masking what the real problem is. And the real problem is God.

God.

Evil doesn't like God.

These are the people that first found the one God and taught us to everybody else, and it's the basis of the entire Western world. That's what the real problem is.

They're not going to be able to say that, they won't say that to you. And I don't know how many people actually think that way.
They're just zombies walking in the darkness.

But that's what the real problem is. That's why they've been chased over and over and over and over again.
And it happens over and over again because it is evil that hates their God.

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Tomorrow is the last broadcast of the year

and an end of an era.

Last night I did the last TV show for Blaze TV.

And it actually caught me by surprise.

Got emotional at the end. I mean, I don't know if you could hear it, but I could barely say goodnight, America.

So I've been doing it for 20 years, and not going to be doing a TV show like that anymore.

Because

we're going to be on to so many other things. The Blaze is going to be carrying the radio show as always.
We'll be here on January 5th. But Torch begins on January 5th and it is

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It's a new chapter in my life and I hope you join me. Thank you for listening and we'll see you tomorrow in the last show of the year.
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