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It's an evil empire. Shook people to its core, but did it work? That's the question we should be asking about Donald Trump in maybe two years.
Is this working? Also, the latest from Al Green and Hank Johnson with Pat joining to talk to us about it. It's so agonizing.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.
Well, let's say hello to Mr. Stu Bergeer, Executive Producer on the program.
Hello, Stu. Hello, Glenn.
How are you? I'm great. How are you? Really well.
Everything's going great, and I'm excited about it. Yeah, right? That's the way to do it.
And, you know, these things come up, and you're like, might be interesting to see how it all works out. That's exactly how I feel about everything these days.
Well, hello, Pac Ray, who's wearing a, looks like an official ice jacket. Yeah, and it is, of course, because I'm an official ice agent now.
Are you really? Unofficially official. Wow, it's that official, but it's unofficial.
Yes. Keeping it on it on the down low exactly they're pretending that you're not they like to pretend they give everybody a little wink yeah yeah he can't bring you in yeah but they know you're wearing that anyway but i'm wearing it yeah so that must mean i can't right and so uh do you see a lot of people run when you walk into stores with that almost everybody almost everybody where everybody.
Where I live, almost everybody runs. Really? Okay.
All right. I wanted to bring you in because I heard a couple of takes, a couple of audio pieces on your show today, and I just wanted you to take us through Hank Johnson and Al Green.
Oh, geez. Which one do you want to start with? Oh, man.
It's so i know let's start with al green yeah i was going to suggest al green uh you know he was the guy who stood up last week with a cane i really did anybody else see that and think oh my gosh it's 1853 yes right yes he's dead with the green i'm like he's gonna go up and try to beat donald trump to death with a. Anyway, here he is claiming that, well, you listen.
There is invidious discrimination in the House of Representatives. I'm a son of the segregated South.
The rights that the Constitution recognized for me, my friends and neighbors denied. I had to sit in the back of the bus, the balcony of the movie, drink from a colored water fountain, and my relatives who committed some crimes were locked up in the bottom of the jail.
I know what invidious discrimination looks like. The Klan burned a cross in my yard.
I know what it smells like. I was in filthy waiting rooms, and I've been in places where I didn't want to be, and I know what it like I've been called all kinds of ugly names so I know invidious discrimination and when the speaker decided that I would be removed and then there was this oh boy motion this resolution to censor me it was be it became obvious to me that I was not being videos as others video.
And candidly speaking, it is invidious discrimination. I told you.
It is invidious discrimination. I'm not sure I've ever heard the word invidious.
Yeah, I hadn't until now. But it is an actual word.
Is it? And what does it mean? Likely to arouse or incur resentment or anger in others. Exactly.
Okay. That's what it means.
Well, it's good. We learned something.
And he used it well. Yeah, he used it well.
Like five times. And when we were talking about Al Green, I was worried when the definition started with likely to arouse, but it did come around to an actual word.
So he's saying that just because he's black when he stood waving a cane at the president during the speech. And yelling and screaming during his speech.

Because that's not happened before.

The closest we could find is Joe Wilson saying,

you lie, and everybody thought. And he did it once.

He did it once, and that was it.

And then everybody apologized for it,

and he was censored the next day.

But he stood up with a cane.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And would not sit back down either. Because he was black.
Yeah, it's invidious discrimination okay all right good all right yeah um now hank johnson yeah okay he's brilliant and you might remember him from worrying about guam tipping over and uh capsizing yeah yeah so the guy is a thinker only if we put all of the marines on one side of the island, then it would capsize. Right.
Because he wasn't just randomly saying the island would capsize. He was saying if we moved too many troops to one side of it, it would capsize.
10,000. He said if there are 10,000 troops were put there, of course that's going to tip it over.
Of course. People love it.
They leave out the context. I know.
They want to make them look stupid. We want to be fair.
Right. We want to be fair.

It's invidious.

That's what that is.

Yeah.

Let's go to Cut 12.

Here is Hank Johnson. All of the ways in which they can kill public education from defunding it from a federal level and then also enabling state monies and local monies to flow into the private for-profit school setup that is going, that is ongoing.
It's a recipe to make education unavailable to black people. And where does that then leave us? It puts us back to when America was great and we were picking cotton.

No, America's not great back then.

And all of them were doing the productivity that they are putting my Latino brothers and sisters who migrate here to do that work because we are not suited intellectually to do it anymore.

Wait, what?

But they would have us back confined to doing that kind of work.

That was invidious. We've got to watch out for where we are headed, and it's the people that will save our democracy that will stop this movement towards the past that Trump has us through.
Can we stop for just a second? I just have a couple of questions here, Pat. So did he just say that blacks were no longer intellectually suited for field work? Yeah, I'm not sure if he's talking about blacks or Americans in general, but yeah, we're intellectually not suited for it.
Meaning we're above that work? Above that, I guess. But Hispanics are.
Yeah, but Hispanics are, they're not above doing that. They're suited, I guess, or intellectually suited for it.
Yeah, I mean, there's a difference between I'm above that, which is absolutely wrong, and I'm not intellectually suited for that work, but you are. What the hell does that even mean? Would that be racism, would you say? I think it's invidious racism.
Invidious. Invidious.
You're likely to arouse? Yes. Okay.
Not really. I'm sorry, I left the second part of that definition.
Yeah, right, okay. Wow.
So then he also says that it's Trump's plan to close the Department of Education to keep people from being educated. But if I could be wrong, help me out with the facts.
I think since the Department of Education was put into place, our test scores have gone way down. And so not just black kids,

no kids graduate now with more than a third grade reading level.

That's what's putting people in chains.

I don't know if he understands that,

but the entire system as it's built,

and everyone should be aware of this.

They keep saying,

what's going to happen to our schools?

What's going to happen to them? What's going to happen to what has happened to our schools right yeah president trump's talked about that pretty extensively that we're 40th among industrialized nations we spend by far the most amount of money one we're number one in spending and we're 40th in education. So there's a problem there there's a big big problem there and part of it honestly i mean when will you know anybody who was who is stuck in 1965 is not going to get this they're not going to get this because they're stuck in 1965 and they don't see that the world has dramatically changed.
And they still look at people like Johnson, one of the biggest racists of my lifetime as a president. They don't see him as doing anything but good.
Right. I truly believe, whether he knew it or not, what he did completely destroyed black families, black children, enslaved them.

And until we understand that.

If you look at the timeline, you see that proven out.

I know, over and over and over again.

Yeah.

In almost every way.

Yep.

And, I mean, when are people, we have got to stop looking at the government as wanting to do good.

Maybe they did at some time.

I don't know.

Our founders would have said, no, it never does that.

It never does that because people are in charge.

So you always look at it as a hostile entity.

That's why you keep it under wraps.

But let's just say they wanted to do good.

Everybody in the government wants to do good, but they're not. Okay, they're not.
So for us to say, let's just keep going down this path is an act of insanity. All we do is throw more money, grow the government, which is not working by any measurement.
It's not working. Everybody's so upset about, oh my gosh, we shut down USAID.
First of all, USAID is a CIA operation. It was designed to look like aid, but it's a CIA op.

That's what it is.

So first of all, you got to learn that, man.

Learn that.

Second of all, even if it was for aid, can anybody tell me why we should spend maybe 20 cents on every dollar that goes there? And I'm being generous. Maybe 20 cents of those dollars actually goes to help people.
The rest of it is all about control and manipulation of other people's countries. And what's left is graft and just incompetence and loss, why would we do that? Why are we focusing on the maybe 20 cents instead of the 80 cents? You know, if we were losing 20 cents on every dollar, I'd still be pissed, but we're not.
We're getting 20 cents of what we really think we're getting and 80 cents to bad stuff why why why how do you defend that you can't not if you're reasonable not if you're a common sense american you can't unless you say government always means to do well and And gosh, we're just. We're trying.

Right.

But when have they proven that to be true recently? And if we listen to you, everyone in Guam would be in the ocean right now. That's.
There is that. You're right.
You're right. There is that.
You're right. You're right.
Thank you very much. I just want everybody in Guam to.
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several top officials including the highest ranking legal officer at act blue have reportedly

jumped ship in recent weeks while those who remain are allegedly stuck dealing with a culture of volatility and toxicity uh in a letter to act blue's board of directors obtained by the new york times unions representing the group's workers identified seven officials who recently quit and stressed the alarming pattern of high-level exits. Senior staff departures reportedly began on February 21st, two weeks after the organization reportedly provided congressional investigators with an update regarding ActBlue's security, their fraud prevention measures, and related procedures.

ActBlue, we have known, is, I believe, appears to be a money laundering system for the left.

And there's a lot of money going through there.

I don't know if Doge is going to find any connections

to act blue, but I wouldn't be surprised. Why are all these people leaving? Because they know this game is over.
And that's why people are freaking out in Washington. They are freaking out in Washington because they know the game is over.
Now, there are those people that are in the government that believe that they're doing the patriotic thing because they believe they know better than you, the people who elect presidents or the president himself. You would not want this if it was your guy in office, right? Why wouldn't you want it? Why wouldn't you want a bunch of, let's say, Republicans that are in the deep state that didn't give a flying crap what Joe Biden said and wasn't executing his plan? Why wouldn't you like that? You wouldn't like that because that's not what the people voted for.
The people voted for the president, not for these unelected bureaucrats that are faceless, nameless and have complete control, apparently, over your country and your life.

No, you wouldn't like it.

And I talked to some people this weekend that are very upset about Zelensky and how the president treated Zelensky.

You've got to watch the entire thing.

People who are watching the clip to when the vice president steps in and says, hold on here.

That's where people start.

That's not the beginning.

There's 20 minutes prior to that where Donald Trump and J.D. Vance were trying to disarm

Zelensky, trying to get him to, hey, hey, hey, hey, not appropriate here.

Stop.

But it took him 20 minutes before J.D. vance finally just snapped and said stop it so you have to inform yourself and not just the clips i am i'm a little uncomfortable by the way the tariffs are going with canada and mexico not so much mexico definitely Canada.
Mexico is just a, I'm sorry, but it's just an absolute corrupt country, and they've got to get control of those cartels, and we have to get control of those cartels as well and make sure we're not doing business with any of the cartels, which I'm not convinced we're not. But Canada is one of these countries.

Come on.

It's Canada.

It's Canada.

We've always liked Canada.

Canada's always liked us.

Okay?

There is a $1.2 trillion online with our trade relationship.

Okay?

And everybody's saying, oh, my gosh, this will have a ripple effect.

It's going to just cost everybody. And you know what? It might.
It might. I don't know.
It might. On the surface, it is really tempting to see what everything that Donald Trump is doing as chaos.
He's just swinging everybody and he's hitting our friends and he's hitting our supposed friends. And he's just taking out everybody that but that's not really what's going on and i i want you to understand this so you can share this to your friends or your family who maybe are freaking out what are they we're pissing off canada i know i don't like it either i don't like it but it's not chaos it is a strategy and you are dealing with the best negotiator America has ever had in office.
Ever. And this is the strategy that people in America elected Trump to execute.
Now, maybe your friend didn't or your family didn't because they didn't vote for him. Okay, but the people did okay electoral college and the popular vote and the county swung by 20 points to the red so this is a mandate it is a movement and it's not like other presidents that are like you know i'm i'm gonna be just like you when i I get in.
I'm going to fight for everything you're saying you're going to fight for because I'm just like you. And boy, that thing that I don't even address ever, but I just love what you're saying there.
I got your back. And then they go in and they don't have your back.
That's not what happened this time. First of all, people didn't vote for Donald Trump like they voted for Joe Biden.
Joe Biden, they voted for because it wasn't Trump. Okay.
That's not what happened this time around. When you vote for somebody who's not the other guy, well, what is it you're getting? In that case, you got, I'm going to make your boy a girl.
Nobody was for that. Nobody voted for that.
Maybe extremists, but we didn't even know that was even coming our way until, what, six months or eight months into the presidency? And then all of a sudden, DEI, ESG, all of this stuff was a big story. Most people didn't vote for that.
They did vote for changing the direction of America. They were tired of corruption.
They're tired of bureaucrats telling them how to live their life where they didn't get to vote on it. They're tired of being screwed by other countries.
We just want a fair and balanced playing field. I don't like tariffs.

I do like reciprocal tariffs.

You put a tax on our milk, we'll put a tax on your milk.

You don't want a tax on your milk, then don't put a tax,

and we won't tax you either.

I like that.

But that's, what we're playing now is people just think

we're going to take out Canada. I want you to think of this differently with your friends.
And maybe your friends won't like this example, but it's true. When Ronald Reagan stood up, it was, I think it was in March of 83.
And he's just gotten in and he's standing, I think it was at a breakfast or something. And he stood up and he said, and Russia, the Soviet Union is an evil empire.
And everybody went, oh my gosh, he just had an evil empire. That's so scary.
And everybody, even people who liked him were like, don't say that. They'll nuke us.
And he's like, no, you're never going to beat them. We cannot do.
Now, now listen to this we cannot continue to play the game the same way we've been playing it for 50 years because it's not getting us anywhere in fact it might be hurting us we know with all of our foreign policy that we've done getting us into endless wars spending all kinds of money racking up a debt of 35 trillion dollars not knowing what the truth is because the government's no longer transparent none of that works none of that works and that's what donald trump was was saying and that's what people voted for a change i think that's what people actually voted for when

it came to barack obama because all of this transparency everything was opaque under george w bush you were like wait what are we doing there why why is it i don't want necessarily these never-ending wars and now i've got you know people checking my underpants at the airport what are we we doing? That's why they wanted change. Transparency.
They wanted change. But he never defined the change.
Donald Trump was very clear. Anybody who didn't know that massive tariffs were coming, they just weren't paying attention.
Okay. When Reagan did it, it wasn't a slip of the tongue.

It was deliberate.

It was a public shot across the bow.

He did it in public because he wanted to change the world.

And while everybody else was going, oh, my gosh, and critics, Democrats, everybody,

it's going to be catastrophic.

He's going to get us nuked by Friday.

All the squirrels will be dead.

What are squirrels going to be?

What?

Reagan wasn't playing for the applause.

He was playing to win.

His words were backed by a military buildup and unrelenting pressure.

And it forced the Soviets to confront their own fragility. They couldn't do it.
By 1989, remember, it was 1983 when he said evil empire, and we were at equal terms in the world. We were both world superpowers that could annihilate the other one at a drop of a hat.
That was 1983, evil empire. By 1989, the Berlin Wall was rubble.
All because Reagan had the balls to say it and then not blink. Now, we could have been vaporized.
Yes. But if you want to change the world,

you're going to have, I have this saying that somebody gave to me a long time ago and I live

my life by it. Risk big, win big.
Risk big, lose big. Just know the odds before you put your money

down on the table. That's why I don't

like Vegas. I know the odds are not in my favor.
So yes, I could risk big, but I probably will lose big because the odds are not in my favor. When it comes to Ronald Reagan's Soviet empire, he had a plan.
And so the odds he knew were in our favor. The same thing with Donald Trump.
We can't afford a trade war, but neither can they. So let's all play nice with one another, shall we? This is the same kind of leadership that ronald reagan had they if we elected donald trump to fight to take on a global trade system to trade take on the deficit and the spending we can't fire all these people it's causing all kinds of chaos wait are you okay honestly are you okay with a good portion of our money raised in taxes going to pay for salaries and benefits the way it is? We have 6 million plus employees? For what? For what? When you see how corrupt it is, why? Can't we return some of that power?

Well, you can't cut the Department of Education.

Why not?

He pledged he was going to.

He told everyone on the campaign trail he's going to.

And then when he tries, everybody says, we've got to preserve the...

Why?

It doesn't work.

Show me the evidence that it works.

Well, you're going to just leave all of the poor children out to to educationally starve they're starving to death right now they can't read when you don't teach children to read they become slaves to whomever can read how is that compassion how is that good how is that something you want to preserve this is the best of the glenn beck program all right uh uh i'm going to tell you about the department of homeland security here in just a second, but I want to talk to you about AI a little bit more today.

We're just going to spend a few minutes on this, but I think we should spend a few minutes on this every day because I think people are waking up. It's just starting to become reality to the people who are paying attention.
And the people who are paying attention now are going to be the ones that are the most likely to survive the first round of cuts um and you're going to hopefully you will see how to ethically use it because if you just use this to replicate your job you know i know i've got hours and hours every day I spend on a show prep. Okay.
But I've been using AI to help look for sources on things. And I mean, sources like that I would never find, you know, what does the GAO say about this? I'm not looking at the New York Times or anybody else.
It's like I've taken on. I have a big staff that does research every day, and it allows me to look at things that would take us forever to look at and to digest.
And we can digest it quickly. Then I can give it to my research team and say, just check on that.
It says page 437, paragraph 14 says this. Can you just make sure that that's exactly what it says and means? If you're using this to take your work and, well, let me say it this way.
Using AI is like adding 10 people to your job. You no longer have to do the grunt work.
It allows you to be a thinker.

So you just need to get it to do all of the grunt work for you. So you don't have to think about all

that stuff. You put it in so it can make what you do so much better.
If you're using it just to do

your job, okay, you might be done earlier in the day. My day has gotten much longer now using AI.
But I am further ahead on a whole bunch of stuff. And if you use it just to copy what you do, then you're replaceable.
You're absolutely replaceable. Because you're the driver.
You're the artist. You're the one who has the unique piece of humanity that it doesn't have.
You can put things together that it won't. And so use it as a tool to say, if I had a staff of 10, if I had a staff of 100, what could I get done? How could I make myself the most valuable employee right now? It's not just coming in with the best report that Grock wrote.
That would be bad because do you know about how did you, what does all of this mean? It's a way for you to not only knock it out of the park with whatever you're doing right now make what you do better but then it's also about adding other things to your job so you make yourself the most valuable person in the building okay every job is going to be my job is going to to be, there's going to come a time where I don't think real people will. I mean, I think real people will become a thing again, like handmade, but I think that there's going to be a time by 2030 where a lot of the podcasts right now, I will bet you that some of the tweets that you read from people that you know it might be ai generated and then somebody else that you know and respect their bot is responding to that tweet and so it's the battle of the bots that's totally happening right now totally i don't know i don't know I don't have any evidence of anybody doing it, but I can guarantee you that's happening.

We're still it's automated.

We're still at the point to where you can kind of maybe detect it.

I don't know how long that's going to last.

As you point out, it's advancing so quickly, but like you could still kind of feel it.

I feel when I read the stuff, you know, when I read social media, I was telling somebody this weekend, it's like I I've always disliked social media, but I'm getting to the point now with it where there's no value to it to me whatsoever, because I can't even tell if these people are saying these things. I feel like half the stuff I'm reading is just AI.
A bunch of AI bots talking to each other. What value do I get out of that? I have access to AI.
I can just ask AI if I want that. Exactly right.
And that's i i don't know where that ends i hopefully it means the entire world of social media collapses and we act as if it was a horrible archive of history um but that being said i don't know where that goes because i feel you feel disconnected you're just like well why why do i care what what an ai bot says about an AI written story from some crappy media source

while both of the people commenting are out drinking together at some bar?

And those are the people who are those people that are afraid.

I'm going to lose my job because of, you know, because of AI.

Yeah.

If you're out drinking and you're working half a day because it's doing it,

believe me, at some point, an unscrupulous boss is going to go, why am I paying all these people? Now, a smart boss will say, why am I paying all these people? I'm going to go pay the same amount of money to somebody who actually will take and do this and make it much better and add more value because they see that this can be used as a rocket ship, and we can create 10 times the value of what we're providing. That's what I'm excited about.
I'm seeing the possibilities of us being able to do the things that we've always done at a much higher level, a much more even buttoned- scale than we already are, because there comes a time, even with us, that we'll leave things off the, you know, we'll put it on the edit floor because we're like, I'm not sure if that's true and we haven't had time. Well, in time, that's where AI can help us.
Go out and search and make sure that this is absolutely true. And it might be impossible for us to find, but soon it won't be for AI.
It will find it. But, you know, there's all kinds of things to talk about.
I just want you to try it and just be playing with it. Not in a, please don't use unhinged.
Don't make it your friend friend don't make it your sex partner don't do that don't ever ever blur the lines it is a tool charles you're on the glenbeck program yeah how you doing glenn good how are you i'm doing quite well uh god bless you all and i just wanted to say i uh thank you for connecting me with Labor of Love and Susan Selim. Oh, wow.
That was 20 years ago. Oh, wow.
It really created my spiritual growth. That's so great.
So I eternally thank you for that. Anyway, on the case of AI, played with it a lot over the weekend on Grok, and you're right.
For the research elements, it's fantastic. i uh had some uh charts made up for balanced scorecard i wrote a book on that several years ago and that's in my wheelhouse of technology and business and uh yeah creating uh various charts and things like that fantastic doing the deep dive on research really good yeah but i've had a book idea uh you know more of a novel and i always struggle with dialogue so i said hey let's see if it'll create the book that i had so i input the parameters and initially it was fantastic it's a historical fiction and it uh incorporated the historical elements i was going for and created the dialogue and the emotional pull you could update it and ask it to uh enhance the emotion or expand on the chapter that i was working on but at some point it just seems to get overwhelmed by yeah it falls apart and it just goes off the rails yeah Yeah.
And I've had to restart it like three times.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Charles, good observation.

It can't continue going down the same road for very long because it doesn't have a memory.

Its memory is so limited because it's supposed to remember everything on the Internet

or at least have access to all of it and so it just generalizes everything and so it can't write a book um it it can't it can't write it just can't write i i've we've been working on things and uh you know some members of my staff are like well that i mean would that put me out of a job no that wouldn't put you out of a job because it can't do it. It can't do it.
It can't continue a storyline. It all falls apart on you.
Maybe someday, but I still believe that people are going to be instrumental because it takes the germ of an idea. If you look at this and like,

it's going to complete my work,

it's going to write my book for me.

You're crazy and that's kind of evil.

But if you say, for instance,

Stu has known this because he's written books with me.

Stu, when you get my rough draft of a book,

how long would those books be?

Oh gosh, at least three times the amount of words that they're supposed to be. Right? Okay, I'm verbose when it comes to writing.
And the biggest job is, can you edit this down? Yes. Okay? That it can do.
That it can do. It can take my writing and cut it by two-thirds and just keep the best parts.
But it can't write a book for you. It's not going to, and nor would you want to.
It can. It doesn't matter if it's good, but it can.
It's capable of doing it, and I'm sure that's what a lot of people are doing, honestly, at this point. But again, there's no value in that.
There's no value in these things churning out books for people. There's no value in that.
Like there's no value in these things churning out books for people.

Like there's nothing, there's no value in that. Obviously you go to an author because you're looking for their perspective.
And yes, they can tell Grok what their perspective is. But like.
It's not. It's not the same.
And I don't think it ever will be the same because of the way it uses memory. the way it uses memory

it will never be able to hold it

until everybody

stops at you know at the x or you know google i don't think they'll ever do this until they open up that memory but they're using all that memory for machine learning to get to asi so you're only getting just a fraction of what is available to them. But they're using all of that memory to be able to churn to produce something else.
And I honestly, if you have ASI, if they get ASI, I really don't think we're going to get it. I think they will, but we won't.
You know what I mean? Which bothers me a great deal. Yeah.
I do feel like that is just an artificial line though, right? It is. It's an artificial line that they need to hold because everybody knows it's an existential threat to their business.
Microsoft knows if X gets it first, Microsoft is out of business. This should tell you something about your job.
Microsoft, X, and google it if you talk to people who at all use ai you ask them when's the last time you used google you don't because it's so it's almost like using what was it ask jeeves in comparison it's like ask Jeeves they're going to put somebody's going to put these gigantic corporations out if they're that freaked out you shouldn't be freaked out you should learn it because the first thing that happens is jobs are lost so how can I use this to keep my job and to be the most productive and thoughtful and useful human brain on the staff?