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Speaker 2 Welcome to Liberation Day. What does that mean? Tariffs today at 4 p.m.
Why 4 p.m.? Because the White House knows this is not necessarily going to be good for the stock market.

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Well, hello, Stu, and welcome to Liberation Day. Here we are.

Speaker 2 We made it. We made it to Liberation.
I've got my tree decorated. You do?

Speaker 3 You've got a Liberation Day tree? I do.

Speaker 2 I do.

Speaker 3 Why is it called Liberation Day? Do we know this?

Speaker 2 No, I don't have any idea why. May I speculate? Sure.

Speaker 2 Speculate. Why is he calling this Liberation Day?

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 2 could be this is totally, you know, right out of the Glen butt. So I have no idea what

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Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I think it's Liberation Day. Because what do you think of when you think of Liberation Day? When was the last Liberation Day?

Speaker 3 I mean, it's like freedom.

Speaker 2 It's World War II. It's World War II.

Speaker 2 Exactly. It's the end of World War II.
Okay.

Speaker 2 What happened at the end of World War II?

Speaker 2 We set all of the American century into place.

Speaker 2 We did Bretton Woods, the gold standard. We were the leaders of the world.
We were the ones that broke all of the records. We were...

Speaker 2 It was the American century.

Speaker 2 Sounds good. That's Liberation Day.
That's what happened. We set everything into motion on that day.
I think Trump Trump has selected that particular phraseology

Speaker 2 because he sees this as the new reset of everything that we did after World War II. That era is over.
We're not playing by those rules anymore. Look at everything is up for grabs.

Speaker 2 I mean, NATO is up for grabs.

Speaker 2 Everything.

Speaker 2 Everything that we once did because of the system set up after World War II, he's ending it. And he's starting something new.

Speaker 2 I think that's why he's calling this Liberation Day. This is, you know, we went over and we rebuilt Europe.
And because of that, we're kind of in the situation that we're in now.

Speaker 2 We just kept saying, you know what? You're right. We're going to help you.
We're going to help you. We're going to help you at our own expense.

Speaker 2 And it wasn't. It wasn't actually anything.
I don't think it was anything that was so, you know, oh, gosh, we're just good people.

Speaker 2 We wanted, in the 1970s, we wanted to have war. We we wanted to have Vietnam, and we wanted to have this big welfare state, okay, under Johnson.
And we couldn't afford both. And so what did Nixon do?

Speaker 2 Nixon came in and said, well, we got to get off the gold standard because we have to print money because there's no way to afford both these things.

Speaker 2 So we have to print money. So we wanted all of it.
We wanted to have our cake and eat it too, or eat our cake and have it too.

Speaker 2 We wanted the whole thing. When we got off the gold standard, the whole world panicked and said, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 You promised us gold standard and you're, I mean, now you're starting to screw with things. You're going to print all this money.
We said, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 Here's what we're also going to do. We've made all the refrigerators.
We've made all of the Magnavox televisions. We've done everything, but we've done it and we've...

Speaker 2 We've rebuilt your economies, Japan, Europe. So now it's your turn.
You've been buying all of our products, but now we're fat and wealthy.

Speaker 2 So we're going to help ship all that manufacturing over to your countries. And we'll buy your refrigerators, Mexico.
We'll buy your cars, Japan, Germany. And so we flipped it.
And what happened?

Speaker 2 Because of that, we intentionally rotted our own country.

Speaker 2 Why was Billy Joel singing about Allentown? Because all of the jobs were shipped overseas. Andy's a liberal, but yes,

Speaker 3 that is why he was thinking about all the people.

Speaker 2 But it was true. These towns rotted because we were shipping all of our jobs overseas.
We bought into the global government thing. We bought into the global

Speaker 3 globalization. Globalization.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Globalization.
We bought into all of that. He doesn't buy into that.
I no longer buy into that.

Speaker 2 It's nice to be able to sell things and have an open and free market, but we are now in real trouble.

Speaker 2 And this is what Donald Trump doesn't, or Donald Trump does understand that I don't think anyone else really understands what he's trying to do.

Speaker 2 And it doesn't mean that I agree with it. I mean, Stu, you and I have disagreed.
I mean, I had a 30, 25, 30-minute conversation with the president on the phone one day just about tariffs. Yeah.

Speaker 3 People are like, are you going to come out and say what you think about tariffs? You said it to Donald Trump's face over the phone, I guess. But yes.

Speaker 2 I mean, we had a long conversation about it. I disagree.
He knows I disagree with it. However, I'm trying to make sense of what he's doing.

Speaker 2 And I don't like tariffs for tariffs' sake. And he's always said, I just love tariffs.
Well, I don't. I don't.
However, what is he actually trying to accomplish here? What he's trying to accomplish is

Speaker 2 liberation.

Speaker 2 He is trying to get us out of that

Speaker 2 globalization idea where we can just be buyers and not producers.

Speaker 2 He's trying to get all these jobs to come back and, you know, car companies to make cars here in America for us to make steel and aluminum and everything else here in America.

Speaker 2 So we can produce our own things. We can stand on our own two feet.

Speaker 2 So this isn't a tariff that is just trying to

Speaker 2 Give us free trade, if you will. Okay, you're going to charge us that for milk, then we're going to charge you this.

Speaker 2 We're going to charge the same thing you charge us that way i guess we we have an open and free market based on what you're charging we'll charge you the same okay

Speaker 2 that's not the goal here the goal is to bring back manufacturing and that is a long-term goal

Speaker 2 he is changing

Speaker 2 everything that we have done for the last 80 years. He's changing all of it.

Speaker 2 And this is a big part of changing that to bring manufacturing back. That's why I just don't believe anybody who says this is going to be temporary.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 he's going to put these things in and then he's going to say, you know what, okay, all right, we compromised. I don't think so.

Speaker 2 This is long-term pain. And that's another thing that I don't think they're explaining well enough to the American people.

Speaker 2 We all know the country has cancer, right?

Speaker 2 We all know our finances are, it's cancerous. It will kill us soon.
Soon. It will kill us.
Do you think we're all in agreement of that?

Speaker 2 In our honest moments.

Speaker 3 You've got all sorts of trouble that we're facing, yes.

Speaker 2 All sorts of trouble, okay? And we've caused it. We've caused it by spending too much.
We've caused it by shooting ourselves in the foot with our own, you know, production, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 We've caused a lot of these problems.

Speaker 2 So how do we get out of this? Well, when you're in this situation and you are up to your eyeballs in debt, there are

Speaker 2 only two things you can do. Well, three things.
You can declare bankruptcy, which the United States can't.

Speaker 2 The next thing is you can just cut your spending and you can slowly get out of debt. Okay, but that just means years and years and years of paying down at high interest rates all of that debt.

Speaker 2 The other thing is you get a second job or you get a better job. That's the most positive one.
Get a better job. Make more money.
You can pay the debt down faster and you can grow.

Speaker 2 Every other option does not allow you to grow.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 that's what he's trying to do. He's trying to get a better job.
He's trying to bring manufacturing down

Speaker 2 back home. So we have something real, not printing money, something real that will grow our economy.
So we'll be able to afford our debt.

Speaker 2 And hopefully we use this money to not only grow the economy, we also use it to cut our debt, not our deficit, our debt,

Speaker 2 because that's the real cancer. So what people are not talking about today is this, I believe, is intended pain.
He has said this a few times, but I don't think they are framing it enough.

Speaker 2 He's said several times, this is going to cause pain. This is going to hurt for a while.
Okay.

Speaker 2 But just stick with me. Okay.

Speaker 2 What he really needs to say is, we have cancer. We all know we have cancer.
The body is dying.

Speaker 2 I am

Speaker 2 a cancer specialist,

Speaker 2 and this is my radical treatment plan. My radical treatment plan is chemotherapy.
Your hair is going to fall out. You're almost going to die.
It's going to cause you so much pain for a long time.

Speaker 2 But I believe it's the only way to cure the body and get rid of this cancer. Yeah, but it's poison.
Yes, I know it's poison. It is.

Speaker 2 But it's the only thing that we have that we know of that can cure cancer right now. and it may not work and it will cause an awful lot of pain

Speaker 2 now you can argue about chemotherapy but if you keep arguing about chemotherapy and you're not doing anything to treat the cancer you are going to die so you've elected me as your surgeon and quite honestly if you have a better idea I'd love to hear it

Speaker 2 The problem is, all of the other doctors in the room are saying you have a head cold.

Speaker 2 It's clear you have cancer, but nobody wants to tell you that because chemotherapy is so very, very painful that they think it's just better just to say, oh, no, no, no, you've got a head cold.

Speaker 2 I'd take another direction if anyone had a better idea or could even step to the plate and say, we have cancer and the country is going to die.

Speaker 2 So what he's doing is when he says there's pain, think of it chemotherapy. We have caused these problems since the 1970s.
It's not going to be easy to fix.

Speaker 2 We have spent ourself into oblivion since the 1970s and it's not going to be easy to fix.

Speaker 2 This is the pain that Ronald Reagan said would come where you're left with no good choices.

Speaker 2 The doctor we just hired says,

Speaker 2 I think it's chemotherapy. Now, there are some others that say, no, no, no, if you eat this diet,

Speaker 2 okay, that might work, but that's not the doctor we hired. And it's also not what people are saying.
They're saying, I don't want any pain.

Speaker 2 You can't cure this without pain.

Speaker 2 And what I wish the White House would do was explain this better. and say, look, there is real pain that is coming and it is going to hurt a lot,

Speaker 2 but they don't want to he's just he's saying it but nobody else is is relaying that message except for him nobody else is saying this is going to cause real pain and i think it is whether it works or not is like chemotherapy i don't know i don't know and he deserves credit for the results yes one way or another one way or the other and you know what stu i was seeing about this today

Speaker 2 this is as dangerous politically figuratively

Speaker 2 as what he was doing in august when he was standing standing in open fields campaigning.

Speaker 3 After the shooting. After the shooting.

Speaker 2 He knew people were trying to shoot and kill him, and he'd still go out into open fields because he was like, no, it's the right thing to do, and I'm not afraid.

Speaker 3 Yes, man. Yeah, it's living on the razor's edge.

Speaker 2 This is a bullet that if it doesn't work, is going to kill his presidency. Okay.
There's no two ways about it. This will be the end of his presidency if this doesn't work.

Speaker 2 Now, if he would say it's going to hurt for a while, that would be helpful because prepare people. It's not going to happen overnight.

Speaker 3 Would it because that's an interesting theory. I think we would both agree if he ran on with the selling of, hey, we have cancer and we're going to give you chemo.
It's going to be terrible.

Speaker 3 I don't think he would win. Right.
Like, you can't run with that message, I don't think, with that serious of a framing. I think explaining that to people now might help cushion what might be coming.

Speaker 3 And again, maybe it won't be that bad. We'll see.

Speaker 2 Well, look,

Speaker 2 we just need adults in the room. That's what we need.
No politician is willing to do that.

Speaker 3 We have any of those in this country, just so you're aware.

Speaker 2 He is. I believe he is.

Speaker 3 I believe he is.

Speaker 3 I mean, I think he might be more optimistic than I am on some of the results here. Yes.
But also, I think he is aware.

Speaker 3 He has communicated it many times that there is going to be pain associated with this. It's not some, you know, some

Speaker 3 magical pill that you take and the cancer cancer goes away tomorrow, and you and you look like Brad Pitt. And the other thing.

Speaker 2 But that's not the way it works. The other thing is he's about to give us high doses of chemo and radiation, and then the patient with cancer is still smoking.
We're still spending all of this money.

Speaker 2 We're still acting the same way.

Speaker 2 I haven't seen massive, and that doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I just haven't seen the reports of massive deregulation yet and massive tax cuts.
They've got to happen.

Speaker 2 I mean, so so people can create jobs.

Speaker 3 There's definitely people in the White House leaking and teasing tax increases

Speaker 3 along with this. And of course, obviously that's sort of what terrorism is.

Speaker 2 That's more smoking. That's more smoking.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And I think that's the other argument, right?

Speaker 3 He's already working on stopping the smoking with Doge and all these other approaches, which are really good and can help your cancer.

Speaker 3 And the question is whether you could really help the situation by doing those things.

Speaker 3 And that's what, again, he deserves credit for, right? Like what this is his, this is sort of a unique Trump philosophy that he has adopted over the past 50 years.

Speaker 2 50 years. He's been saying this since

Speaker 3 he's insistent on it. He's become president twice saying it.

Speaker 2 And he is going to try it. Just so you know, this is not about

Speaker 2 us paying off our taxes or anything else. That's not what this is really about.
He believes those would be benefits, but I don't know if that's true or not.

Speaker 2 What he is saying is we have to rebuild the infrastructure. And the only way to do that is to make it so painful that Mercedes-Benz says, okay, you know what?

Speaker 2 We're going to just open up a factory in America. Good.
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Speaker 2 Okay, so there are two cities in America that I would say are the big growth cities in America.

Speaker 2 Now, there are growth states, Texas and Florida, and that's because of freedom. That is because the states don't get in your way.
They don't have a lot of red tape.

Speaker 2 And they're attracting companies because they have very low taxes, if taxes at all in those states. Okay.

Speaker 2 That's why those states are growing. But there's two other states, and I think there are two other cities that I think represent the choices in front of us.
One that is growing is Silicon Valley.

Speaker 2 And that is because all these entrepreneurs came together in one place and they're like, we've got an idea. Let's completely change the world.
And they changed the world. Okay.

Speaker 2 Like it or not, Silicon Valley has changed the world. That's why there are more billionaires there than any other place on earth because

Speaker 2 they

Speaker 2 thought

Speaker 2 differently and decided they were going to build something and change the world. And they did.
The other city that's growing non-stop, at least up until recently, Washington, D.C.

Speaker 2 And that's your other choice. You can either create something of value that keeps growing and will grow the economy, okay,

Speaker 2 or you can create a government economy that only grows the destruction of your taxpaying dollars, does not create any wealth at all, doesn't create anything new, just creates jobs, and those jobs never bring in any additional income.

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Speaker 2 Inflation is still a problem. The dollar is still worth far less than it should be.
And there's still a lot of people out there working to remove the dollar status as the world's reserve currency.

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Speaker 2 Dallas, Texas at the Mercury Studios. Welcome.
It's the Glenn Beck program. I don't know if you saw the news yesterday.
This is a little frustrating, predictable, but frustrating.

Speaker 2 By 2023, Joe Biden's allies were quietly preparing for the unthinkable, we find out yesterday,

Speaker 2 his death in office by 2023.

Speaker 3 I mean, I'm glad he made it. I am too.
However, it wasn't unthinkable.

Speaker 2 No, I know, I know, I know. I just got to say well, it was because they kept saying that he was in perfect health and he was never healthier than anybody else.

Speaker 2 There's a new book out called Fight Inside the Wildest Battle for the White House by Amy Parnas and Jonathan Al Allen.

Speaker 2 Hey, thanks for the update now, guys.

Speaker 2 We had no idea. I mean, you did if you paid attention and you just realized that you weren't being told the truth and you just watched.

Speaker 2 But what we were never shown were the,

Speaker 2 you know, the

Speaker 2 fluorescent tape marking his path at public events to keep him from wandering off. Did you know that?

Speaker 2 The death pool roster that the White House had, that Kamala Harris's team drew up listing the federal judges who might swear her in if his heart stops.

Speaker 2 Did you know this was happening? Did you know?

Speaker 2 I mean, his health and his

Speaker 2 brain activity was so bad that they had a resident makeup artist on hand all the time, not just to make him up to enhance his appearance in case he goes on television, but to mask the shell that he had become.

Speaker 2 Stephen Miller said they were literally Michael Jacksoning him, a reference to the late pop star owned cosmetic cover-ups, while dismissing skeptics as conspiracy theorists. In some days, Biden would

Speaker 2 endure the makeup ritual only then to cancel all of his briefings entirely and call it a day.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 Uh-huh. So I want to know who sanctioned all of this.
Who?

Speaker 2 Because the aides knew it. All the leadership in the White House knew it.
The people that applied the makeup knew it. The schedulers who cleared his calendar knew it.

Speaker 2 I mean, why wouldn't they say, were they protecting the president? Because you're supposed to protect the presidency.

Speaker 2 The president and the presidency. And the presidency is even more important.
That's why if Barack Obama, and we talked about this years ago, Barack Obama would have invited me to the White House.

Speaker 2 I would have absolutely gone like Bill Maher did.

Speaker 2 I would have been polite. I would have

Speaker 2 shaken his hand.

Speaker 2 I would respect him. Respect the office.
Because I respect the office. I don't have to like the man.
I respect the office because the office is more important than any man.

Speaker 2 Then came the moments we're finding out in this new book of the cognitive unraveling. It was there in plain sight, but if you said anything about it, remember, you were a conspiracy,

Speaker 2 a theorist. So Swalwell, Eric Swalwell, the congressman, he comes to the White House and he's supposed to meet with the president.

Speaker 2 They meet and Biden doesn't even know who he is, has no idea who Congressman Swalwell is.

Speaker 2 Swalwell had to say, remember me, I'm a congressman.

Speaker 2 I worked on this with you and this. And he was like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.
I remember. Holy cow.

Speaker 3 How did we make it through that?

Speaker 3 Only God could have put us, got us through that, I swear. How?

Speaker 2 Did we not know?

Speaker 2 Why were no cameras allowed to capture it? Why didn't anyone say anything?

Speaker 2 Why were there no leaks on this?

Speaker 2 You are committing an act of treason, I believe, to the country. If you've sworn an oath to the country,

Speaker 2 to the Constitution, why are you not warning on this? Who's making the decisions? Why didn't no one sound the alarm?

Speaker 2 Shouldn't Swalwell do it himself? Of course. Of course.
Then everything comes crashing down in 2024. Biden steps down as the Democratic nominee.
It was forced on him by Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi.

Speaker 2 And then what we didn't see was the backstage backstabbing that was going on. Harris, remember when this happened, Biden came out and said, I'm stepping down.
No endorsement.

Speaker 2 And then like 30 minutes later, this endorsement for

Speaker 2 Kamala comes out, right? Well, now we know what happened.

Speaker 2 Kamala calls and says, hey, you've got to endorse me or they're going to go for an open, you know, Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi, they want an open primary. You got to endorse me.
And so he does.

Speaker 2 He endorses just to screw Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama. Nobody's talking about the screwing of the system.

Speaker 2 He's painted as a hero for doing something brave when he intentionally screwed the system because he wanted to screw Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama. Okay.

Speaker 2 Nobody says anything about it. Just the noble farewell to him.
He's just great. Nobody heard about the power plays.
Nobody heard about the backstamming.

Speaker 2 Nobody heard about the subversion of the Constitution here.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Great.

Speaker 2 And again, nobody says anything.

Speaker 2 Nobody says anything.

Speaker 2 Huh.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 2 Why weren't we allowed to see? And how deep did this actually run?

Speaker 2 Who is responsible? Who was giving the orders? Who is telling everybody to shut up as they Michael Jackson him?

Speaker 2 Why did no one say, I've got a real problem. We have to put

Speaker 2 little fluorescent stickies on the floor so he knows where to walk. Isn't that a problem?

Speaker 2 There was nobody that said, by the way,

Speaker 2 we're just trying to line up the right justice to swear her in because we want that photo op. We want that to look really good.
We want the correct justice.

Speaker 2 Holy cow. What else don't we know?

Speaker 2 What about the memos? Any memos buried? How about the doctors?

Speaker 2 Remember when the doctors were going there like, no, he's fine. He's fine.
He just, you know what? I had a problem.

Speaker 2 I had some toenail fungus and I asked him to look at my feet because he is so fine that he's almost a doctor right now. He's so sharp.

Speaker 2 What happened in those? Remember those meetings? And the doctors came out and they were like, wait a minute, aren't you a guy that specializes in dementia? No.

Speaker 2 Why weren't we told this?

Speaker 2 These are the questions that you must ask because no one else will.

Speaker 2 Who else knew? Cabinet members? Obviously the first lady. And I'm going to stop calling them the press corps because they really are.
They're dead to me. They're the press corpse.
They really are.

Speaker 2 Let's pronounce that

Speaker 2 as it's spelled. Pronounce it incorrectly because they are the press corpse.
They're just, they're as useful as dead people.

Speaker 2 Why were they so eager to debunk anybody as cheap fakes? Why wouldn't they dig into any of these? Why weren't we trusted with the truth?

Speaker 2 What medical reports were suppressed? Who gave the orders to keep this going? And what's going to happen to the media? All those that knew, here's what's going to happen. Nothing.
Believe me, nothing.

Speaker 2 They all knew. At best, they all just convinced themselves that it wasn't true.
They allowed their own mob to convince them that, you know, nobody really knows what the truth is.

Speaker 2 And it's better for America to hide it. That's what they've convinced themselves of.
But that's not their decision. It's not their job.
It's our decision. Their job is to tell

Speaker 2 America the truth of what's really going on and let us decide. Because this is all of our country.
This is not just the Democrats or the Republicans and certainly not the elites in Washington.

Speaker 2 It's we the people, not we the press, not we the educated, not we the elite, but we the people, all of us.

Speaker 2 We're paying a price. for all of this.
Will they pay a price? Will anyone who still watches them stand up and say, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 I mean, I just read the New York Times and you're now covering all of the things you told us were conspiracy theories on Ukraine.

Speaker 2 In fact, it's worse than what the conspiracy theorists were saying about what we were doing in Ukraine.

Speaker 2 You told us that we weren't funding color revolutions with USAID, but now it comes out, yes, we were.

Speaker 2 The Great Reset, conspiracy theory, nope, it's real. COVID.
Nope, didn't tell us the truth. Masks, vaccines, our kids being kept out of school.
RussiaGate, on and on and on.

Speaker 2 All of the lies. Will they pay with the price of the price they should pay? Embarrassment and shame for what they've done just for power?

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 they won't pay. And you know why?

Speaker 2 Because the tale that we are reading or expected to read in this new book out, the tell-all book about how bad it really was, and nobody knew except everybody knew.

Speaker 2 The real story story there

Speaker 2 of Biden's decline

Speaker 2 is a mirror.

Speaker 2 And it's not reflecting one man's fall,

Speaker 2 but it reflects

Speaker 2 our willingness to look away until it's too late.

Speaker 2 That has to change.

Speaker 2 And until it does, it goes right back to the opening monologue in today's broadcast.

Speaker 2 Donald Trump is at least

Speaker 2 telling us we have to do these things if we want to be competitive. That's the closest we've gotten to a doctor that actually won, that will tell you the truth.

Speaker 2 The country has cancer and it's got to stop. We have to cut it out.
So here's the chemotherapy. It's these trade barriers.
You may not like them.

Speaker 2 But you hired me to cure the patient, and I think chemotherapy is the only way, and it's going to hurt a lot. When's the last time you heard a president tell you the truth on anything?

Speaker 2 When's the last time you heard the press tell you the truth? And here's the truth.

Speaker 2 Everything we're facing right now is a little scary.

Speaker 2 And you know why?

Speaker 2 Because we haven't faced it when it wasn't scary, when it was just a choice. We made all of the easy choices.
You know this with your kids. You're like, why? Just put a little extra work into it.

Speaker 2 And your choice, all these doors will open up. But the more you don't do, the more you avoid, the more doors that close for you.

Speaker 2 And at the end, you're not going to like the doors that are left because they're going to be so few. And you're going to be like, okay, I guess I'm going to be that guy for the rest of my life.

Speaker 2 Well, that's what we're doing as a nation. The same thing that we bitch about with our kids.
Just do the right thing. And all of these options are in front of you.

Speaker 2 But every day you choose not to do the right thing. Those doors close more and more every single day.

Speaker 2 Let's open those doors back up.

Speaker 2 But that requires all of us. And I don't know if you're going to get those people.
I'm going to talk about it if I have time today.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you're going to get those people that have been sucked into this system.

Speaker 2 I mean, here's another example.

Speaker 2 They're just showing you they lied to you. They lied to you over and over again.

Speaker 2 Are you ever going to be able to convince those people that are still watching the people that lied to them?

Speaker 2 You ever going to get them to wake up?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I honestly think that the left is creating a new Palestinian state.
They are creating

Speaker 2 the same thing that honestly they created over the last 70 years.

Speaker 2 This bogus story about Palestinians, this is their land and the Jews had nothing to do with it, and whipping these people up into a frenzy to where they have no other options other than kill the other side.

Speaker 2 They won't listen to reason anymore. They can't even see it because they've been trained almost since birth to hate the other side.

Speaker 2 And if you think that's hyperbole, just look at who is supporting the Palestinians and all of the lies. Look who is saying on October 8th, well, that's okay.
The Israelis deserved it.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 The same people who are the author of these lies about our country.

Speaker 2 Let's pray for our neighbors and our friends and our family that haven't woken up yet. More in a second.
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Speaker 2 Blay subscribers have a lot to say today. AC said on the cancer monologue that I started this hour with, it's time.
It's all being used against the American people.

Speaker 2 We're done being the doormat of our abusers. We don't like it anymore.
Chris, the real cancer is a godless nation. Patriot said, after the last four years, I can't afford any more pain.

Speaker 2 How long will this take? Unfortunately, years, I think.

Speaker 2 T, this is minor pain. If the economy collapses, that's major pain.
And you're right. And that's what I was trying to point out.

Speaker 2 The economy will collapse because the rest of the, look at the rest of the Western world, what they're doing. They're still going down this road of madness.

Speaker 2 They are still opening up their borders and punishing the people that grew up in those countries, that like those countries. They're putting those people in jail.

Speaker 2 They're also continuing their crazy spending, their tax policies, everything else. They are going to collapse.

Speaker 2 R said, things made here are so expensive because of unions and regulations. So the imported things will just get more expensive and nothing else.
I hope not, but you might be right, R.

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Speaker 2 Want to get right to it with Stephen Moore. Tariffs.
Today is Liberation Day.

Speaker 2 The president is calling, and he is going to be in the Rose Garden at about four o'clock this afternoon talking about tariffs. And today is the day they all go in.
What does this mean?

Speaker 2 not just for the country, but what does it mean for you at the grocery store, wherever you're doing your shopping here in the next,

Speaker 2 well, we don't know how long. I would imagine a long time.
These don't seem like they're going to be temporary.

Speaker 2 We'll talk to Stephen Moore about that and try to get a

Speaker 2 temperature and a read on what the White House is trying to do and what it's going to, best case scenario, we know the worst case scenario and most likely scenario and what it's going to mean to you in just a second.

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Speaker 2 Stephen, are you there?

Speaker 5 Good morning.

Speaker 2 How are you, man?

Speaker 5 Hi, Glenn and great to be with you.

Speaker 2 Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 Today is Liberation Day.

Speaker 2 How are you feeling?

Speaker 5 Well, you know, I think it's a Liberation Day, but I'm feeling a little maybe trepidation day as well. We'll see what that announcement is.

Speaker 5 I'll be out there at the Rose Garden at four, so I don't know exactly the details. I don't think anybody does except Donald Trump at this point.

Speaker 5 Look, I'm a free trade guy. I understand that the

Speaker 5 benefits of countries trading with each other benefits both countries.

Speaker 5 But I would say on the other hand, because this really is a debate where I could go on either side of it, Trump does have a very important point, Glenn, which is that we do a lot of people don't understand.

Speaker 5 Now, you've got a wise listenership, but a lot of Americans don't understand that we are the lowest tariff country in the world right now, among all the major trading partners.

Speaker 5 And what Trump is simply saying is it's not a level playing field. It's not fair.

Speaker 5 These other countries are not playing by the rules. And they need to trade with the United States.
So they better get their act together.

Speaker 5 They better start treating us fairly, or he's going to hit them with these tariffs.

Speaker 5 There is going to be some, I've been listening to you for the last 10, 15 minutes. You're right, Glenn.

Speaker 5 There will be some costs to Americans in terms of buying cars, and we might see a little rise in prices of things.

Speaker 5 Trump describes this as

Speaker 5 short-term pain for long-term gain. And I think it's for every American to kind of figure out where they stand on this right now.
I'm a little bit worried about it, but I will say this.

Speaker 5 Trump is the single best negotiator I've ever met in my life. And I think in the end, he will prevail.

Speaker 2 So is he going for

Speaker 2 just

Speaker 2 a strange level playing field. I mean, you can't say it's a, you know, an

Speaker 2 a free market because there are tariffs involved, but if our tariffs are only reflecting

Speaker 2 everybody else's, then it is a free market, if you will, just trying to bring everything level up to the, you know, the place where everybody else is.

Speaker 2 Is that the goal here, which would lead me to believe there might be some short-term effects because we could turn the negotiating power on pretty quickly?

Speaker 2 Or is is he trying to bring manufacturing back, which is, I mean, I think he's calling it Liberation Day because it harkens back to World War II.

Speaker 2 And he's liberating us from almost everything that we set up

Speaker 2 right after World War II. He's saying effectively with almost in almost every category, all of that stuff is broken and we can't do that anymore.

Speaker 2 So is he saying, we're not going to be part of this global thing anymore? We're going to bring manufacturing back here.

Speaker 2 And that's going to be tough, but it's the only way to really, truly grow our economy by building things here. Which is it, or is it both, Stephen?

Speaker 5 Boy, these are complicated questions, you know, and I can't get in Donald Trump's mind. You know, look, let's start with why he won this election.

Speaker 5 He won the election by winning blue-collar, you know, middle-class voters into the Republican Party, many of whom, you know, had voted Democratic, but realized that Trump was the one who really stood behind them.

Speaker 5 I believe, Glenn, the answer to your question about how do we make America number one in manufacturing and obviously technology and other industries that are so important.

Speaker 5 I believe many of the other things that Trump is doing. For example, a lead article in the Wall Street Journal this weekend that didn't get a lot of attention on the front page was that

Speaker 5 Trump is deregulating our economy. It's going to reduce costs for American companies by as much as a trillion dollars

Speaker 5 to make make us very competitive.

Speaker 2 I was just talking. Hang on just a second.
I was just talking about I'm not seeing enough about cutting the regulation

Speaker 2 and also cutting of tax cuts. Because

Speaker 2 if you don't have those to go along with the tariffs, this isn't going to work. It's just not going to work.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, great minds think alike. And that's exactly what I was going to say.
And it was almost like we were saying the same thing. So, you know, you look at the tax plan that we put.

Speaker 5 And, you know, Larry Tudlow and I put the very first version of that tax plan together for Trump back, what, eight or nine years ago, and it was a huge success, huge success.

Speaker 5 Glenn, one of my frustrations right now with the Trump administration, with the president, and I love this guy.

Speaker 5 I mean, I would, you know, I would go through a burning building for him, and he would do the same for the country.

Speaker 5 Have you heard him talk a lot about the tax cut in the last month? No.

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 5 Have you heard him talk about deregulation the last month? No. No.
It's all been about tariffs. And, you know, that's the medicine, but people want to see the good stuff.

Speaker 5 There are issues that unify the Republican Party, like lowering tax rates, deregulating the economy, pro-American energy policy, those kinds of things.

Speaker 5 Frankly, the tariff issue is an issue that kind of divides us. I mean, some of my best friends are in favor of it.
I'm kind of on the fence on it. Others are strongly against it.

Speaker 5 So I want to see Trump talking a little bit more about all of the benefits of these other things that he's doing.

Speaker 5 I mean, the fact I've waited 40 years, Glenn, for a president to say we're going to dismantle the U.S.

Speaker 5 Department of Education because it's totally useless and it probably does more damage to our schools. Well, he did it.

Speaker 2 I know he did.

Speaker 5 I mean, I was there when he signed that executive order. That was amazing.

Speaker 5 He's doing incredible things for our country, but a lot of that gets overshadowed because all he's talking about right now is tariffs.

Speaker 2 Well, he's got to bring a lot of people to the table. So

Speaker 2 what do you think is going to happen? at four o'clock. I mean, he obviously picked four o'clock because the stock market is closed, right?

Speaker 5 Yeah. I guess so.
I mean,

Speaker 5 you may very well be right.

Speaker 5 I think it's going to be, you know, nobody knows exactly what he's going to say, but I think he's going to call for a 10 to 20 percent across-the-board tariffs on just about anything that comes into the U.S.

Speaker 5 Now, that's going to raise prices. I mean, if you put a tax on things that come in, to some extent, you know, consumers will pay the cost of that.

Speaker 5 And then I think he's going to go after certain countries that are the worst abusers, like China. And by the way, I'm all in favor of going after China.
I think China is a menace to you. I do, too.

Speaker 5 You were one of the first people who started talking about this, Glenn, 25 years ago. So, you know, China is the enemy.

Speaker 5 One thing I don't get, and I say this with all due respect because I do love this president. I don't understand why we've had so much discussion about Canada.

Speaker 5 Canada is one of our most important allies. And why aren't we talking about China and some of these other countries that are

Speaker 5 dangerous to our economic and national security?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I've been questioning that.

Speaker 2 So let me ask you, best case scenario, what happens? What do we look like in a year from now?

Speaker 5 That other countries dramatically bring down their terrorists. It's not just tariffs, by the way, Glenn.
And Trump's made an important point here. It's also what are called non-tariff barriers.

Speaker 5 The fact that many of these countries have various rules that close the markets to American products. And I'm not just talking about manufacturing products.

Speaker 5 You know, we're the breadbasket of the world. We have the greatest, most productive farmers in the world.
We produce more food and agriculture products than any other country.

Speaker 5 And yet, many countries lock out our wheat and our corn and our barley and our meat, our dairy products.

Speaker 5 So I think if this works out, and I would never bet against this president, I think you're going to see other countries having to open up their markets to American manufacturers and American farmers and American technology.

Speaker 5 By the way, our technology companies are completely discriminated against by the Europeans in these other countries. So there's a lot to be angry about.

Speaker 2 Brussels said, I think yesterday or early this morning, we got war plans, economic war plans. You go ahead.
You launch these.

Speaker 2 We're relaunching our own attack

Speaker 2 tomorrow. Bluster or real? I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 Who said that?

Speaker 2 Brussels. Yeah, EU.

Speaker 5 Oh, the EU, yeah. Right.
Okay. Well, let me address that.
Because, first of all, I'm so sick and tired of these sanctimonious Europeans.

Speaker 2 We don't hang out enough, Stephen. I just love you.
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 5 I mean, you know, oh, my gosh, how dare Donald Trump do this? You know, he's starting a trade war. And I know what Donald Trump would say if he was on your show right now.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 He would say, what are they talking about?

Speaker 5 Our terrorists are one-third as high as theirs are. They've got a lot of nerve to say Trump is causing a trade war.

Speaker 5 I mean, you know, it's like if I came up to you, Glenn, and punched you in the nose, and then you tried to, you know, fight back, and I said, how dare you start a fight with me?

Speaker 5 I mean, so Trump has the moral high ground here because we do open up our markets in the other country. By the way, there was a very famous incident that happened.

Speaker 5 I wasn't there, but my buddy Larry Kudlow was there at one of the G20 meetings. I think it was in Ottawa.
And the Europeans were sitting there, you know,

Speaker 5 complaining and grousing about Trump was talking about terrorists and, you know, I don't know if you're aware of this, but Trump, Trump, it's on the record. People were there, said it.

Speaker 5 Trump said, okay, you know what? Why don't we all go to zero on tariffs? You know what? The Europeans ran for the door as quickly as they could. I know.

Speaker 2 I know. I know.
So now

Speaker 2 tell me what you think

Speaker 2 is a likely scenario if things don't go exactly the way.

Speaker 2 You know, I just bring this up because Paul Krugman, you know, in the New York Times, he said, you know, when by, don't dismiss the careful work of our statistical agencies because you're feeling angry on the checkout line.

Speaker 2 I don't want to say that about tariffs. I don't want, I mean, it's going to make things harder to buy what you need, and we shouldn't downplay that.
The president's not even downplaying that.

Speaker 2 He says it's going to be a little painful for a while, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 But people are on the edge financially, and no amount of political theory helps people pay for the groceries or makes it feel better when you're paying for the groceries.

Speaker 2 So I don't want to be in that camp. What should people mentally prepare for that is a likely scenario, even if it turns out that it was the right thing? What's coming our way?

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 I think that Trump

Speaker 5 has made a mistake here in the sense that

Speaker 5 we should have done this tax bill first. Yeah, I agree.
And that would have been a huge victory. Everybody understands.
I hope your listeners understand.

Speaker 5 If we don't get this thing done, that we're talking about a $3,000 per family tax increase on January 1st.

Speaker 5 And by the way, every single Democrat in the Congress voted for that, a $3,000 per family tax increase. So we should,

Speaker 5 I hope as he's talking about these tariffs, he links that to the fact that he's talking about

Speaker 5 a major growth enhancing tax reduction.

Speaker 5 I like his idea, for example, Glenn, where he said, look, if you're going to bring something into the country, you're going to pay a 15% tariff on it.

Speaker 5 But if it's made in America, you're only going to pay a 15% 15% tax. I love that idea.
Let's do it. Let's implement that right now.

Speaker 5 What you're doing is giving a little bit of a favoritism to stuff that's made in Michigan and Ohio and Maine and Vermont.

Speaker 2 My guess is he would have done that if he could count on the Republicans. There's two groups of people.
I know. There's two groups of people that worry me.

Speaker 2 Congress and quite honestly, the Justice Department. I don't know where Pam Bondi is, but that's a different story.
But Congress needs to do their job.

Speaker 5 Right. And,

Speaker 5 you know, I think that you're right.

Speaker 5 What are we? Day 80, 90. I can't keep track.
But it's amazing what Trump has done already. I know.
But why is it? I mean, Trump should have that tax bill on his S. He should.

Speaker 5 If Populo has got the voter mandate, why is the Senate been sitting on this for five weeks?

Speaker 2 Can't tell you.

Speaker 2 I can't either. Can't tell you.

Speaker 2 So tell me about it.

Speaker 2 Tell me about

Speaker 2 the regulations that you're seeing.

Speaker 2 Is the regulation, because tariffs, tax cuts, regulations.

Speaker 2 Tell me about the regulations that you're seeing. Is it significant, the regulation

Speaker 2 slicing?

Speaker 5 Enormously so. So remember, you remember, Glenn, what was the first thing that Joe Biden did when he became president?

Speaker 2 Energy.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 he killed all our energy infrastructure projects. I mean, you know, that's something one of our enemies would have done to us.
Biden did it to us. He shut down the pipelines.

Speaker 5 He put incredible, incredibly onerous climate change taxes on our oil and gas and coal industry. Shut down.
Remember Hillary Clinton saying, well, that's okay.

Speaker 5 The coal miners can become computer programmers or something.

Speaker 2 That's working out.

Speaker 5 Exactly. So, you know, Trump is opening up our energy.
We have more oil, gas, and minerals, by the way. You know, this new Secretary of Interior,

Speaker 5 Governor Doug

Speaker 2 Bergham.

Speaker 5 Bergham, he's He's doing an amazing job. You know, we have $10 trillion of

Speaker 5 minable critical minerals in this country, in the mountains of Utah and Dakotas, and da-da-da. We can do that.

Speaker 5 So what I want to ask you, we can allow more mergers and acquisitions so our companies can be more effective. It's all over the board.
It's on transportation policy.

Speaker 5 And that's going to cut costs dramatically for American consumers. And that's a really positive thing.
In fact, when I give talks to small businesses, you give a lot more talks than I do.

Speaker 5 I always ask the men and women runs, I said, which is worse for you, the tax burden or the regulation burden?

Speaker 2 What they say? Regulations. Regulations.
Yeah, regulations. Every time.
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Speaker 3 Here with Stephen Moore talking about

Speaker 3 Liberation Day, the tariffs that are going into effect potentially today. Stephen,

Speaker 3 one of the things

Speaker 3 I'm struggling with on this is what is the actual goal here? Because if the goal is to get tariffs everywhere in the world to zero, I think that's a laudable goal, and I would love that.

Speaker 3 If it would take a bunch of threats to get people to do that, I think it would be fantastic.

Speaker 3 But if tariffs are good policy, which the President seems to think they are, would we even want that outcome?

Speaker 5 Well, look, tariffs are taxes. There's no question about it.

Speaker 5 And I believe the United States has actually benefited from the fact that we are the you know one of the freest trade countries in the world.

Speaker 5 But incidentally, over the last 50 years.

Speaker 2 Hello.

Speaker 2 No. Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 Dick Cheney. Dick Cheney.
Dick and Liz Cheney. They didn't want you to hear that answer.
I'll tell you that right now. Where's Mark Zuckerberg? I'll tell you that.

Speaker 3 We shouldn't have taken the Facebook phone.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we just lost him in the middle of that call.

Speaker 2 Okay, sorry about that. Well, thank you, Stephen Moore, because we've got to move on.
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Speaker 2 What was your question again?

Speaker 3 I said, is the goal to get it to zero? If it is, that's great. But if tariffs are good policy.

Speaker 2 Here's his answer. Stu, shut up.
Stupid, stupid question.

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Speaker 2 No,

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Speaker 2 you know i have to tell you i saw something yesterday just i just this just blows my mind.

Speaker 2 You know, the war that is going on at the Tesla showrooms,

Speaker 2 it's not just with bullets, bombs, baseball, bats, intimidation,

Speaker 2 but also with lies. And these lies, it just, it has to stop.
It has to stop. And

Speaker 2 everyone will say conspiracy theory, and it is not. And yesterday we found out for sure it is not.
Do you remember the, you remember the name Nina Jankowitz? Who is Nina Jankowicz? Do you remember?

Speaker 3 You know, know, the name does sound familiar if I am not there, though, our disinformation czar.

Speaker 2 Oh, gosh. Okay, she was our disinformation czar.
Very short-lived. Very short-lived.
And remember all the things she was involved in? And you're like, wait a minute, she's our disinformation.

Speaker 2 She is the queen of disinformation. Yes.
Okay. And everybody said, well, that's a conspiracy theory.
Well,

Speaker 2 yesterday we find out that she, along with Carlos Alvarez Aranos, a communications professional, that's in quotes, with ties to Biden's Department of Defense and somebody who is just wealth and influence his whole life, they co-founded the American Sunlight Project.

Speaker 2 Now, that sounds good, except I think their real goal is to cast darkness over truth and bury anybody who dares to seek the truth.

Speaker 2 Their mission, their mission was to bankrupt Tesla, still is, to bring down Elon Musk's entire empire, not for any noble cause, but for power and control and the preservation of a rotting establishment.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 So what you're seeing now, we now know, again, is not grassroots, but it's a calculated assault tied to an NGO, which is tied to the remnants of USAID's taxpayer-funded slush funds.

Speaker 2 So she was the authority of disinformation when she was the head of the disinformation governance board. And that we said at the time, and thank God enough people stood up and it went away.

Speaker 2 Her job was to silence dissent. Now she's refusing to name any of the donors.
Okay. Sunlight, sure, but not for us.
I mean, no sunlight here.

Speaker 2 So her partner has suddenly been scrubbed. from the project's website.
He's no longer, what, I was never involved. What are you?

Speaker 2 This is not the man you're looking for. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, all that stuff.

Speaker 2 These are people that have cloaked themselves in the garb of righteousness the whole time,

Speaker 2 and they've been wielding influence, you know, honed by years of government connections.

Speaker 2 And here's the cost, America, to you and me, good people, journalists, whistleblowers, everyday citizens, anyone who tried to sound the alarm, anyone who saw through the lies and who she was and what they were doing,

Speaker 2 they had an organized, orchestrated campaign to discredit them.

Speaker 2 Now they're doing it to Tesla and Musk and anyone else who questions the narrative. Have we had enough of this yet? The machine is relentless.
It never stops from every direction. For almost 25 years,

Speaker 2 at least the ones I know for 25 years, we have all been branded as heretics, conspiracy theorists, ageists, grandparent killers, Nazis, you name it.

Speaker 2 Families all over the country because of people like Jankowitz and the lies that they perpetrated by saying a person who's telling you that is just a liar.

Speaker 2 And we now find out that was funded by the government and they are indeed the liars.

Speaker 2 Families crumbled under this. Daughter in Ohio stopped speaking to her dad because he doubted Joe Biden's fitness.

Speaker 2 And CNN told her, well, he's got to be a traitor to America because there's no truth to that. What did we find out yesterday?

Speaker 2 Brother shunned in Texas for refusing the vaccine, labeled a murderer, while Governor Andrew Cuomo's nursing home scandal just gets buried beneath the headlines and nobody pays attention to the actual killer.

Speaker 2 Mainstream media, complicit, cowed, amplified the lies, ignored all the evidence. How many lives have they destroyed? I would say millions, millions.

Speaker 2 The protocols of Zion, no, no, no, the protocols of deceit have been perfected by the media and the left for years.

Speaker 2 If you question Barack Obama, Joe Biden,

Speaker 2 if you question Biden's decline, you were unpatriotic. If you hesitated on the vaccine, you were a menace.
You support Donald Trump, you're a Russian pawn or a Nazi.

Speaker 2 All the while, our government has now confirmed it was sending your tax dollars to actual Nazis in Ukraine. But that was a conspiracy theory.

Speaker 2 None of the truth was actually true.

Speaker 2 Not the Russian asset claims, not the rape allegations, not the vilification of an American company that's daring to innovate with electricity.

Speaker 2 Yet half the country has swallowed all of this whole.

Speaker 2 Taught to hate people

Speaker 2 by people like Jankoids and her ilk because she's not alone. Families shattered, Thanksgiving tables emptied, friendships dissolved because the deceivers had weaponized trust into a tool of division.

Speaker 2 And those who saw it and spoke out paid dearly. Jobs were lost, reputations ruined, voices silenced.

Speaker 2 I know, I was there, I was one of them, Ostracized for daring to speak out and say, this is what I saw. This is what I believe is going on.
I said that. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 My inbox flooded with threats while my children were literally told in front of me by total strangers that they will never know how evil your father really is. And his lies, you should know.

Speaker 2 He is a father is a disgrace. That was said to my children in front of me by people who didn't even know me.

Speaker 2 Why? Because they believed the lies that these people were shoveling.

Speaker 2 Now, I can feel sorry for myself.

Speaker 2 You can feel sorry for yourself for what we've gone through, but I have to tell you, the greater tragedy is for those, the ones I really feel for are the ones who are still trapped in this matrix of lies.

Speaker 2 They're still there because nobody's paying a price for what they said. You know, they defended the villains, Cuomo, Jankowicz, the NGOs.

Speaker 2 And I don't know why they're still there. Maybe it's because the truth is is too painful to face.
They don't want to face that. They don't want to believe.
Or they're just not getting the information.

Speaker 2 You know, they've been conditioned to hate, a hatred as deep and as unyielding as those hatreds that are born in the conflict zones of the Middle East, quite honestly.

Speaker 2 The very same leftists that support all of those hatreds are the same ones that are trying to get you to hate your neighbor.

Speaker 2 And how do you repair that?

Speaker 2 Mainstream media is not going to, they're not going to come come out and go, oh, you know what? We were wrong. They're not going to do that.
Oh, you know what?

Speaker 2 Turns out that wasn't a conspiracy theory. Oh, you know what?

Speaker 2 Gee, you don't have a reason to watch us because we've either been lying to you. And if we cared about it, we would correct it and we would make a big deal out of it and show you how we've changed.

Speaker 2 But they don't. Most will never know how badly they were abused, how their loved ones were turned against them by a cabal that thrived on just control and power.

Speaker 2 The villains,

Speaker 2 Jankowicz is one of them, faceless bureaucratic billionaire backers. These aren't new.

Speaker 2 They're just the latest in a long line of power-hungry manipulators, from USA-funded coups to the COVID cover-ups.

Speaker 2 They destroyed. They destroyed our country, our trust for one another, and not with violence.
Well,

Speaker 2 they did actually with violence too. They burned cities to the ground, but

Speaker 2 why quibble?

Speaker 2 They did it with whispers and memos and boycotts, and if that didn't work, they did burn your city down.

Speaker 2 Meanwhile, the ones who actually cared, the ones who are really trying to find the truth, that fought to expose Cuomo's crimes, who warned that Biden was not healthy, he was senile, those who defend Tesla's right to exist,

Speaker 2 lie in the rubble of all of this.

Speaker 2 Their voice drowned out by the roar of the now machine-like mobs. And that's what they are.
People who refuse. Well, I can't say refuse.
They no longer listen to reason. They no longer are hearing.

Speaker 2 They're no longer feeling. They're just simply marching towards the next fire that their masters want them to light.
That's all it is.

Speaker 2 We're watching a cult devour itself. And it's taking everything, love, trust, hope, everything going with it.

Speaker 2 You may have already paid a heavy price, but free at last, free at last. Thank God Almighty, we're free at last.
Those still lost in the lies, they're going to pay a lot more.

Speaker 2 They're going to lose their families, their futures, their grip on reality. Many of them already have.
They've lost their grip on reality.

Speaker 2 All because deceivers like Jankowitz, that we just found this out yesterday, taught them to hate the wrong enemy.

Speaker 2 And as Tesla's stock, you know, wavers under this orchestrated assault, and that's what it is, orchestrated assault, the question is,

Speaker 2 can we even reclaim a society?

Speaker 2 Can truth ever be reclaimed by a people who don't even know what the truth is anymore?

Speaker 2 Or are the lies so

Speaker 2 bought into by so many people that it's impossible to unravel them.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm really afraid of now. That's my that's my new because I'm seeing all of these things be exposed and people just not changing their point of view.
They're seeing what's happening.

Speaker 2 You know, this whole country is being run by a mob of billionaires like Tesla. Meanwhile, George Soros is the one paying for the mobs in the streets.

Speaker 2 Hello?

Speaker 2 And it's not, you know, some anti-Semitic trope. That's reality.
You got the receipts, gang.

Speaker 2 And yet it doesn't change them.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I'm so concerned that we have just built what they wanted to build. Palestine versus Israel.
Palestinians against the Jews. Where the Jews can never do anything right.

Speaker 2 I mean, I'm not saying they're perfect. I'm not saying we're perfect.
We're not perfect.

Speaker 2 But no matter what they do,

Speaker 2 the lies are so deep, so entrenched, so deeply embedded because it started when they were in school

Speaker 2 that you just can't unwind that lie. That's where we're at.
That's where we're at right now. That's why the abolishment of the Department of Defense is so critical.

Speaker 2 That's why everything that is happening right now that cuts the ties to the federal government, to our children, is so important.

Speaker 2 I just saw this story yesterday about Jankowitz and I thought, how many times did we say we told this story over and over again, over and over again.

Speaker 2 She can't be the head of the disinformation group of the government. First of all, what kind of dystopian 1984 organization is that?

Speaker 2 But look who she is.

Speaker 2 She was testifying in front of Congress and she actually smirked. Smirked.

Speaker 2 You're the Sunlight Foundation, right? So tell us who your donors are.

Speaker 2 Can't do that. Sorry.

Speaker 2 They know exactly what they're doing, and they have absolutely

Speaker 2 no remorse. None.

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Speaker 2 Well, we're 72 days now into the second term, and Trump is drowning in legal warfare. How many lawsuits

Speaker 2 have now been filed?

Speaker 2 I think it was on Monday. The number was, well, guess.

Speaker 3 How many lawsuits against Trump?

Speaker 2 Yeah, trying to get him to stop all this

Speaker 2 cutting of everything.

Speaker 3 I don't know the number.

Speaker 2 Okay, so Monday, I think it was like 129. Today it's 150.

Speaker 2 Okay?

Speaker 2 That's what they're doing. They're just overwhelming the system.

Speaker 2 And they're all Obama-Biden judges.

Speaker 2 And this is not normal, just so you know, this is a full-scale coordinated assault. This is exactly like the bogus stuff that was happening

Speaker 2 with Tesla and still is happening.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 the infrastructure that

Speaker 2 you know, that was built under Biden, all just ready for this. And their plan is to keep Trump tied up into court.
And what do we do?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 the fight is not just in the courts.

Speaker 2 Mobs of activists funded by the left's dark money networks, they're taking to the streets, targeting Trump, his allies, even launching violets' attack against these people.

Speaker 2 And it is clear what their plan is now. Disrupt, litigate, destroy.

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Speaker 2 I want to talk to you about the worst songs of history and the one that I seem to keep

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Speaker 2 So I remember when I first started warning about China's role in the fentanyl crisis. This is years before we started talking about sanctions.

Speaker 2 And sanctions today coming out, you can have sanctions on China high enough for my taste.

Speaker 2 But every time I talked about China and their role in the fentanyl crisis, called an alarmist, a conspiracy theorist, you know, you're just so eager to paint villains with a broad brush.

Speaker 2 I can't get a broad enough brush for villains, quite frankly. That was, I don't even know, eight, nine years ago.
And now it's in the headlines again. Did you notice? Yesterday, Congress confirmed it.

Speaker 2 Experts have testified to it. The truth is finally a little bit mainstream.
The Chinese Communist Party, or at least, at the very least, elements within it have enabled,

Speaker 2 subsidized,

Speaker 2 and profited off of the flow of synthetic opioids, fentanyl.

Speaker 2 And they profited off of all of it coming into the United States, and they knew

Speaker 2 what they were doing. And I wish I felt vindicated today, but I don't.

Speaker 2 The truth that was once dismissed is too dark to be real,

Speaker 2 is really only only being proven to be darker. We have watched families bury their children.
We've watched our communities unravel.

Speaker 2 We've read the reports and seen the data, and still, the scale of it is overwhelming.

Speaker 2 But doesn't it all feel familiar? Because we've been here before. We have.
Only the last time the roles were reversed. Back in the 1830s, the British Empire had a problem.

Speaker 2 China had things the British wanted, tea, silk, porcelain. But the Chinese didn't want what Britain was offering.
So they had to come up with something else, and they found a solution.

Speaker 2 It was something that was grown in India, opium. And the British started trafficking it into China.
And the result? Mass addiction, social collapse, and eventually war. Isn't that great?

Speaker 2 The Chinese emperor tried to shut it down, tried to protect his people. And for that, Britain just sent in gunboats.
They were called the Opium Wars. And they weren't just about trade.

Speaker 2 They were all about power, about profit, about poisoning a population that had to gain the upper hand. It was evil then, and it's evil now.
And it's happening.

Speaker 2 This is exactly what I told you was happening. And now we've just confirmed it.
What Britain did to China, China is now doing to America.

Speaker 2 And we are watching the replay of one of the worst songs ever in history. Except it's just new instruments.
Some of them are digital.

Speaker 2 Different players, same melody, same song.

Speaker 2 And yet, like the empires of old, we pretend we don't even hear. What song? I don't know.
What are you talking about? Fentanyl is the new opium.

Speaker 2 And the Chinese Communist Party is the new merchant cartel. And America, we're the addict.
We're hooked. We're hollowed out.
We're held hostage.

Speaker 2 But this isn't just about fentanyl at all. That would be bad enough, but it's not.

Speaker 2 It's worse than that.

Speaker 2 Who's doing this to us? China. A country that is committing genocide, forced labor, slave camps is what we would have called them at one point.

Speaker 2 The full spectrum of state-engineered suffering and death. In China, over a million Uyghur Muslims have been swept into re-education centers, prison camps.
They've been beaten.

Speaker 2 They've been brainwashed. They've been sterilized.
They've been separated from their families. Many of them are just put to work.
If they survive that, they can sew some clothes.

Speaker 2 You can assemble some electronics. And they're making the goods that we buy every day.

Speaker 3 And here's what's horrible.

Speaker 2 We know it. We know it.
It's not a secret. It's not even controversial anymore.
The U.S. government formally declared its genocide.

Speaker 2 Human rights organizations all around the world have documented the abuses. Survivors have testified.

Speaker 2 Investigators have traced the products made in those camps all the way to the shelves in our stores. And yet we just keep shopping.
I do it too. I'm not lecturing you.
This is monologue.

Speaker 2 I'm far too egotistical. This monologue really is about me.

Speaker 2 Because we wanted our iPhones. We wanted things to be convenient.
We want our cheap shirts. We want our tech toys.
We want our solar panels and smart devices.

Speaker 2 And if they're made by slaves, I don't know. I mean, I don't know if that's even true, even though we do.

Speaker 2 But we say we're against slavery. Just not that kind of slavery.
You know, not the kind that makes our stuff more affordable.

Speaker 2 Not the kind that, you know, happens behind a closed border that we can't actually verify. I mean, really.

Speaker 2 Not the kind that might raise the price of our lifestyle or cost us convenience in any way, you know, like when Americans were against slavery before, unless it meant that, you know, you had to go out and work in the field and pay more for your cotton or do the things that others should do, you know, for free, because I own them.

Speaker 2 It's the same thing.

Speaker 2 The secret is,

Speaker 2 we all like to consider ourselves moral, but we like our morality abstract, clean, neat, you know what I mean, in a little box.

Speaker 2 I would have stood up back then. Uh-huh.
Really?

Speaker 2 I would have spoken out against slavery in the 1800s.

Speaker 2 I would have marched against fascism in the 1930s. I would have said something.
Really?

Speaker 2 You know, half the nation right now couldn't give you a correct definition of fascism, and yet it is the most overused word in the English language, at least in America right now. That insists gender.

Speaker 2 Fascism is everywhere. Define it.

Speaker 2 We'll fight against it. I mean, unless it benefits us politically.
And remember, poll after

Speaker 2 poll shows growing number of us, we don't really have an opinion. We're kind of undecided.
How are you undecided on all of this stuff? Well, it's not clear. I haven't paid enough attention to it.

Speaker 2 I've been busy. It's complicated.
And anyway, what could I do? You know,

Speaker 2 I've said all of those things. As I was reading the story about fentanyl, I just, it was like just this giant finger pointing at me.
I've spoken out,

Speaker 2 but I've thought those things. I've said those things to myself.

Speaker 2 As I was making notes for this monologue last night, I was typing them out on an iPad.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 in part built by those people who have may not have had the actual option to go, I don't want to build that iPad.

Speaker 2 I've sat here in this throne

Speaker 2 calling you to action

Speaker 2 and yet kind of making peace with my own compromises. And I don't know where it's, I don't know where to stop.
I don't.

Speaker 2 I just know this. I can't lie to myself about that anymore because the truth is collective sin,

Speaker 2 I think, may be the most common sin among us. Among me, my circle, my friends, my family, me.

Speaker 2 We claim to know better. We do.

Speaker 2 I will come on here and I will preach about the power of the individual to make a difference. We are swimming

Speaker 2 in complicity.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 2 Here's what I tell myself. I'm tired.

Speaker 2 I'm tired.

Speaker 2 Or I'm too entertained to get out of the water, quite honestly.

Speaker 2 We look back at history and shake our heads. How could they let that happen? How did they not see? We're doing the same thing.

Speaker 2 We are repeating almost everything from history at the same time right now.

Speaker 2 How could the world ignore the signs of genocide? How could Americans tolerate slavery? How could so many good people do nothing while evil marched forward? But here we are.

Speaker 2 Millions of people are still enslaved today. In fact, more than ever before.
Genocide, not in the past tense, it's happening right now. How about child sex slavery? Don't want to talk about that.

Speaker 2 We're ignoring it because it's inconvenient. It costs too much to care.
It's too hard.

Speaker 2 I think really, because history's worst songs have a beat we find easy to dance to.

Speaker 2 You look around today and you see all the old songs playing on repeat.

Speaker 2 Economic slavery, propaganda dressed up as patriotism, the exploitation of the vulnerable, the weaponization of addiction, moral blindness passed off as just a nuisance, printing of money as the clowns of the printing press, you know, giving us all kinds of cakes and circuses, all the while telling us, No, it really, it's different this time.

Speaker 2 And above it all, the lie we keep telling ourselves:

Speaker 2 well, in the past, I would have done the right thing. Would we? Would I? I can't speak for you.
Would I? Am I?

Speaker 2 Fentanyl crisis is just, it's not a natural disaster. It's not an accident.
It is a deliberate poisoning of our population. The U.S.

Speaker 2 government has now admitted that China's regime has directed or at least enabled the flow of these drugs for strategic gain.

Speaker 2 Destruction is not a side effect. That's the point.

Speaker 2 And what have we done about it? Boy, these tariffs on China can't come fast enough for me.

Speaker 2 And at worst, we enable it. On the border, our government, in the last administration, they partnered with it.

Speaker 2 We've wagged a few fingers. We've issued a few sanctions.
We signed a bill here or there, but we haven't changed. We haven't sacrificed anything.
Who's buying the drugs?

Speaker 2 We don't even want to talk about that. Who are the child porn marketers selling the children to?

Speaker 2 We don't want to think about that. We don't even want to think about the question because we know the answer.
It has to be us.

Speaker 2 Maybe.

Speaker 2 One of our friends, family, neighbors. We just don't want to believe that to be true.
But for this problem to be this big, it has to be true.

Speaker 2 And I've kept telling myself that, you know, my job is to make you aware of things. But is that enough?

Speaker 2 Because we're not just ignoring You know, the worst songs of history. We're humming along.
We're humming along.

Speaker 2 I found myself last night thinking, I believe in the power of the individual. More than anything else, I believe that one person can make a difference.
I say it over and over again. I believe it.

Speaker 2 It is one of my core beliefs to the center of my being.

Speaker 2 And then I find myself at times going, yeah, but what does it matter?

Speaker 2 I've excused myself because... I'm tired.
I've already done so much. Oh my gosh.
Boy, am I going to pay for that one? I'm tired. Somebody else should carry this for a while.
And nobody else is coming.

Speaker 2 It's just, what are we going to do? Honey, what are we going to do?

Speaker 2 Well, nobody else is coming. Oh, in the end, I just want to remind myself, it's just going to be me at the judgment seat.
Me, not the whole crowd. Me.

Speaker 2 There is no collective salvation, no collective judgment, except from historians. But there is collective sin.

Speaker 2 And the individual is still the only only one that can break the cycle.

Speaker 2 I don't want to be another comfortable coward in a line of them stretching back through time.

Speaker 2 I really want my grandchildren to be able to tell the story that I stood up for what was right.

Speaker 2 I wrote about it. I talk about it.

Speaker 2 Did I care enough to actually change my buying habits? Holy cow.

Speaker 2 How can I come to you every day and preach a message of individual salvation, of Christ,

Speaker 2 when I'm living and, I don't know, in my own life, living and building a world of collective excuses.

Speaker 2 I can't say it more plainly than that. What England did to China during the opium wars, evil.
They flooded a nation with drugs for profit, crippled its society, called it trade.

Speaker 2 And now China's doing the same to us. What China is doing now, enslaving people, destroying culture, erasing faith, evil.
And

Speaker 2 it rivals some of the darkest chapters of the 20th century. And

Speaker 2 we're funding it. What we buy matters.
What we ignore matters. What we excuse matters.

Speaker 2 And we're running out of excuses.

Speaker 2 Shame on me.

Speaker 2 Shame on me for... knowing it and then not realizing what I was saying as I'm writing something to lecture you about it and I look look down and I'm looking at my iPad.
Shame on me.

Speaker 2 I can preach. As long as I continue to partake, it's okay.

Speaker 2 I don't want to be a hypocrite. I don't think anybody wants to be a hypocrite.
Do you?

Speaker 2 I really want to be changed.

Speaker 2 And if anything in this monologue has stirred you, maybe you feel like I do.

Speaker 2 And I don't know what this all means. I don't know, but let's do something.
Let's stop pretending history is behind us because it's not. We're making history every day.

Speaker 2 And I'd like to start making history in a different direction. You know, I'd like to stop singing the same worst songs.
Maybe we write something new.

Speaker 2 Because the world doesn't need more outrage. It needs more courage.

Speaker 2 It needs more people that are willing to be torchbearers.

Speaker 2 Let others see the light. And they can join us or not join us.
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 But here's what does matter. What we do in our own private lives,

Speaker 2 that matters.

Speaker 2 Every minute that we have, that we live,

Speaker 2 matters.

Speaker 2 Every day, every moment.

Speaker 2 I can't speak for you.

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Speaker 2 Stew's looking at me like that wasn't necessary. What a downer you are.

Speaker 3 You really are a downer, and there's a lot of things you really should beat yourself up on. I mean, I can list them.
I can do a whole show. In fact, I've got one planned later on.
Stu Does America.

Speaker 3 Just a list of things you guys should be responsible for.

Speaker 2 I'm not saying I'm responsible for

Speaker 2 it. I'm saying we're all responsible for all of these things.

Speaker 2 I don't want to hold myself up as some shining example.

Speaker 2 I was writing stuff on my iPad yesterday. That's weird.
This would change that monologue.

Speaker 3 You do not need to convince us that you're a hypocrite.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think, though,

Speaker 3 it's a bit more complicated than that, isn't it? I mean, like, let's just say we went to this world, right? Where we didn't do business at all with China and all these countries.

Speaker 2 Hang on, can we get some conservative porn for that?

Speaker 3 No, that's not what I wanted to do.

Speaker 2 Okay, I mean, I just think, yeah,

Speaker 2 we're not doing business with China. Let's just say.

Speaker 2 Ding-dong,

Speaker 2 Chinese food.

Speaker 2 General Sao is here.

Speaker 3 All right, anyway, go ahead. So in this world,

Speaker 3 again, going back to your worry here, right? Like you're essentially victimizing a bunch of people around the world by buying cheap goods.

Speaker 3 If you go to a world where we instead buy all of our stuff from America, that would be really, like, in theory, really good for American workers, right?

Speaker 3 Like, there would be lots of jobs here, lots of manufacturing.

Speaker 2 I'm not, by the way, I'm not saying that. I'm willing.

Speaker 2 I'm willing to buy. I just would like for people to have a choice.
Well, yes, yeah. Yeah, okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 But I'm like taking it to its logical extreme for a second here. This would be really bad for the people you're talking about.

Speaker 3 If we were not buying iPhones from China, it would be really bad for Chinese people.

Speaker 2 I don't know. If we stop doing that, these are all the best jobs in China.
I know, but the CCP would collapse.

Speaker 3 Well, it could collapse, and it would lead to, obviously,

Speaker 2 an issue.

Speaker 3 And maybe they would turn into a great country that wanted to freely trade with us and we could do it in a better fashion. I'm not saying that.

Speaker 3 But like, remember, the process that we're all vilifying here has ripped billions of people out of extreme poverty.

Speaker 3 And so

Speaker 3 while it is important and it is America first, that is the right way for our country to be thinking. Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 3 These policies have benefited a lot of actual real people who aren't hardcore communists and shit against fronts at all.

Speaker 2 I just want you to know. I just want you to know.
I know this isn't what you're saying. Yes.
Okay.

Speaker 2 But that is the exact argument a lot of people made in the 1800s. You know, well, these people would have been over in Africa.
I mean, they got a better life over here than being eaten by a lion.

Speaker 2 I mean, it is the same, the same thing. And I know you're only saying that about people that are not enslaved.
Yes, of course. So I get that.

Speaker 2 But really, Stu? Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 Is he a hypocrite?

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Speaker 3 And Glenn has a 30% off special right now if you want to get involved of the Chinese children he's enslaved with the purchase of his iPad. You could buy them now 30% off.
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Speaker 3 And I would never buy an Apple product.

Speaker 2 So that's

Speaker 3 you are revolting in that front.

Speaker 2 That's an Apple product right in front of you.

Speaker 3 Not if I tilt the screen enough, you can't see it on camera.

Speaker 3 No, I mean, look,

Speaker 3 it is a really difficult thing. I think what you're struggling with is something that a lot of people struggle with because no one wants to empower a situation where people are not being paid fairly,

Speaker 3 you know, whether they're American or not, right?

Speaker 3 I mean, speaking more broadly than the normal world we deal with, which is politics

Speaker 3 and just American,

Speaker 3 you know, America first, speaking as a person of faith, right? Like people in China are as important as people in America. That's not a controversial statement in the Bible.

Speaker 3 Again, like this is a real

Speaker 2 American Bible.

Speaker 2 American Bible.

Speaker 3 We,

Speaker 3 as people of faith, care about what happens to people around the world.

Speaker 3 So it is very natural for us to sit back and say, gosh, am I to, so I have this cool device that shows great video so I can watch Netflix? Am I empowering this regime to thwart,

Speaker 3 to return to the world?

Speaker 2 Well, I will tell you, if you listen to what's being taught to our children.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 3 How do you mean?

Speaker 2 That's what they say about every person that was alive back in the 1800s. They all were for slavery because they did nothing to stop it.

Speaker 2 Just by using their standard, which I I think is wrong, but by using their standard, that's how history will judge us.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're probably right because I think people tend to look back at history and say, oh, gosh, those people, how could they have allowed that?

Speaker 3 Like, we think that, I mean, I think of that all the time about the Germans.

Speaker 2 I know. How did that happen?

Speaker 3 Obviously, there were millions of Germans who wanted nothing to do with history.

Speaker 2 Right, but also you then watch what happened with COVID and you're like, oh, that's how it happened. Yeah.
Well, you do learn quickly. You learn quickly.
Some do. Some do.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And I just think that

Speaker 3 it is more complicated than that,

Speaker 3 than what I would identify as your guilt of the last monologue.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I started writing that monologue and maybe I got lost in the guilt because I looked down and I said, I'm making notes. I'm making them on my iPad and I'm like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 Because it didn't start out as that. It really started out as,

Speaker 2 look what's been happening on our border, and nobody has done anything about it, and nobody's going to really pay a price for it. Our government has been enabling these drug cartels.

Speaker 2 We told you years ago that China was sending over pill machines to be able to stamp the chemicals that they were also sending over to the drug cartels, and they send over these machines that make those chemicals into the fentanyl pills.

Speaker 2 Okay, they sold them to the drug cartels. We know this

Speaker 2 We didn't do anything. And you know what? Everybody who said it was conspiracy theory and everything else, now it's official.
We now officially know

Speaker 2 nothing's going to happen. Nothing's going to happen to those people.
Where is that? I'm really kind of down on, I'm getting down on Pam Bondi. I am getting down on Pambondi.

Speaker 2 And that's probably very unfair, but I'm just waiting to see when will someone pay a price for any of this stuff?

Speaker 2 When will someone go to jail for the lies, the distortion, the death that they helped? I mean, you start with COVID. You can go to the border.

Speaker 2 These people, I mean, there were people in our own government. They knew exactly what they were doing.

Speaker 2 And then they lied about it.

Speaker 2 And they just walk away. And it's not a problem.
And I don't know. Is that because

Speaker 2 We're so overwhelmed with life?

Speaker 2 I mean, because that could be it, but I don't know. I mean, very few of us are working the way our grandparents worked, our great-grandparents, our pioneers, our founders.
My gosh.

Speaker 2 And they didn't even have aspirin.

Speaker 2 I got to tell you, if I was out plowing the field all day and I got home and I couldn't even have an aspirin, oh my gosh, I would not be a nice guy. And yet somehow or another, they still did stuff.

Speaker 2 You know, they still got it together. I mean, they were dead by the time they were 30.
And I think that's why they were so willing to volunteer. War? It might have a chance of getting killed.

Speaker 2 Okay, I'll sign up. I mean,

Speaker 2 I don't know. But they seem to get a lot of it done.
And

Speaker 2 we're, I don't know. I'm getting lost again.
I'm sorry. I'm in this weird place of.

Speaker 3 It's a good, it's, you know, as much as I don't want to give you any credit, it's a good place. to be that you're that people are are contemplating this stuff because it's easy to get cold.

Speaker 3 I think that happened to a lot of people back in the slavery times, back in the

Speaker 3 I mean, pre-Nazi Germany, while a lot of people didn't want what Hitler wanted, there was tons of anti-Semitism.

Speaker 2 That was just the culture, right?

Speaker 3 Like, they just, it was just known that Jews were bad at that time. And it led and it allowed people when they didn't consider the humanity of the situation to fall into all sorts of terrible traps.

Speaker 3 But like, we also have to look at the opposite side of this. There is cost and benefit.
Obviously, you know, higher prices do hurt regular Americans. That will happen.

Speaker 3 We've talked about it already today. On the other side of this, though, are the good things that have happened around the globe.

Speaker 3 I mean, we've gone from basically take the Reagan era, where we started embracing more free trade policies.

Speaker 3 The globe was at 40% extreme poverty.

Speaker 2 We're now at 8%.

Speaker 2 That's amazing.

Speaker 3 That is the greatest human achievement of our lifetime. It is.

Speaker 2 Maybe of all time.

Speaker 3 Maybe of all time.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 3 one of the parts of this, and you can look at that, there's more than one reason for it, right? Obviously, industrialization. There's all sorts of different things.

Speaker 3 Wait a minute.

Speaker 2 Don't blow off, I ate my cereal as a kid. Because my mother used to say, I said, Your cereal, there are starving kids in China.
And you see,

Speaker 2 I ate my cereal, and now they're not starving in China. Right.

Speaker 2 Congratulations.

Speaker 3 It's true.

Speaker 3 Part of this, obviously, industrialization and all these amazing things we've achieved, and medicine, and

Speaker 3 foods, they'd be able to spread that. All that's part of it.
But what we see now is we built up a giant manufacturing relationship largely with Asia, right?

Speaker 3 And what we see now is the place that still has all the poverty is Africa. Yeah.
The place we don't have that relationship.

Speaker 3 We have, and again, like it's not our job as Americans to make, to feed people in China. It isn't.

Speaker 3 I think it's our job as Christians to care about that.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, but can I make the

Speaker 2 opposite point I seem to have been making or you're railing against? Let me make your point. Sure.

Speaker 2 Africa has gotten more aid from Christians around the world than probably any other place on the planet in history.

Speaker 2 China didn't get all that aid. What China got was business.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 which one is feeding their people?

Speaker 2 And that's under communism. That's under communism.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a transformed version. And when they left real, real, I mean, it's still bad, but it's not as

Speaker 3 Mao.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 3 But still, they wound up embracing some of this stuff when it comes to free markets and very little.

Speaker 2 Very little.

Speaker 3 But trade. And it has helped them, right? I mean, there's no doubt about it.
And you can, I think, make the argument that that relationship, while maybe beneficial for us in prices, has kept,

Speaker 3 it has made a revolt in China, Tiananmen Square, that spreads across the whole country, maybe a little less likely, right? Because life is a little bit better for the average Chinese person.

Speaker 3 So all this, my point here is not to say that, oh, well, this policy is perfect and this one's terrible. It is to, we have to look at the entire picture.

Speaker 3 However, when we're making policy for the United States of America, it is, that is an outgrowth of that policy. It is not our goal.
It is not our central goal to worry about people in other countries.

Speaker 3 That is unfortunately not our goal as a country. Our country's goal is to be America first.
That has to be the way we think about it.

Speaker 2 I mean, we see this in every movie where, you know, some parent is dying and they're like, you know, what can I do? The best thing you can do is be there tomorrow for your family.

Speaker 2 You know, get well for your children so you can be there for years. That's really the same thing that we should be saying to us as a country.
You know, you really want to help the rest of the world?

Speaker 2 Get well. Get well.

Speaker 2 Get out of, you know, intensive care with all of your debt and your moral ambiguity and everything else. get better.

Speaker 2 And you're going to be able to be there for the rest of the world. You'll be able to help them.
But as long as you're sick or dead, nothing's going to happen. Nothing's going to happen.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 So, I mean, it is a real, a real balance. I just think that it's important to understand the positives and negatives of all of this stuff.

Speaker 3 And that's not to say, like, we don't do any trade with North Korea and we don't do any trade with Iran.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 3 And I don't think anyone would be like, oh, let's advocate opening that up. I think it's interesting when we have an enemy, right? We We are really, it's not a tariff, right?

Speaker 3 It is a closing off of all trade and relations. And that's how we look at North Korea.
It's how we look at Iran. You know, North Korea has

Speaker 3 an entirely insular economy, right? They have achieved this idea of everything in your own country. Now, I don't do it very well,

Speaker 3 but most of it, now you'd have some trade with Russia.

Speaker 3 They can't.

Speaker 2 I mean, you can't do absolutely everything. It is good to not be an island, but it is also, it's probably wise, too, to make your own medicines.
Yeah. You know, getting our medicine.

Speaker 2 And we need to do that's really important. It's really important.

Speaker 3 Right. And that doesn't mean that we don't outsource anything.

Speaker 3 One of the things that I think is a good midpoint here is if we have to keep, we want to keep the prices of our medications as low as possible.

Speaker 3 We complain about the cost of medication all the time, even though we are doing it. We outsource a lot of it.

Speaker 3 You know, there are countries that we aren't arch enemies with that do this sort of manufacturing. I bring up India often because India is a country.

Speaker 3 It's very comparable when it comes to power of manufacturing and the ability to do it at a reduced price in a country that doesn't hate our guts.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 Right? Like, and

Speaker 2 may I bring up another, this is a very controversial one. Canada.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Again,

Speaker 3 again, Canada, not as low cost as in India, but also like.

Speaker 2 But not in it, not a country, well, I was just saying not a country that hates us.

Speaker 3 This was one, I think, of the smarter trade policies of Trump 45, which was to negotiate really

Speaker 3 trade-friendly relationships with Canada and Mexico through the USMCA and say, hey, we don't want to do as much manufacturing over there.

Speaker 3 Let's pull it into our neighbors that we know, that we have good relationships with, and try to do it there. Now, look, he's trying to alter that formula a little bit here.

Speaker 3 The only thing to keep in mind is it's a really difficult line to walk.

Speaker 3 You know, again, what we're talking about here, Glenn, and I know this is a negative word to our term to our audience, but it is what we're talking about, which is centralized planning.

Speaker 3 It is possible to centralize elements of your economy and plan it perfectly. It is difficult to do.
We've learned that lesson many, many times.

Speaker 2 Right. And I'm not sure if centralized planning to reverse the centralized planning

Speaker 2 isn't, you know what I mean? It was centralized planning to got us to globalism the way we are. It was centralized planning.
It was. At some level.

Speaker 3 There was elements of it, and I think usually the negative elements of it.

Speaker 3 But, you know, it is

Speaker 3 one of those situations that I sit back sometimes, Glenn, and I say, it's going to be really interesting to see how this all plays out.

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Speaker 2 Becca wrote in and said, My daughter has blocked me from her and her kids because of some of the issues you guys guys have been talking about that are now being exposed as true.

Speaker 2 Becca, I know how you feel. Jenny, people never apologize for being wrong.
They just move on to the next lie. That's, I think, maybe what I've been trying to get to all day today.

Speaker 2 Just thank you, Jenny, for saying it. I could have been done four minutes into the show.

Speaker 2 Thank you. We need to doge the show.

Speaker 3 I know Stu. It's four minutes.
That's right.

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Speaker 2 a little lapel pin of the metal. I'm not sure if you're supposed to wear it.
It was given to me by a veteran and told me to wear it, so that's why I'm wearing it.

Speaker 3 Glenn's veterans, typical Glenn veterans.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 That's why it always happens.

Speaker 2 You know, it's the purple heart. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
I've been wounded by Stu. Deeply.
Deeply, deeply wounded.

Speaker 2 B writes in, we need a mission, Glenn, for something, not against. Amen.
Very true. See us tonight on the Wednesday night special, Blazetv.com.

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