New Documents PROVE FBI Ran Cover for Clintons | Guests: Sec. Chris Wright & Peter Schweizer | 8/14/25

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U.S. Energy Secretary Chris Wright joins to discuss the current status of America’s power grids and the energy crisis that would have occurred had Kamala Harris been elected president. Glenn and Stu discuss President Trump’s efforts to allow nuclear power plants to be constructed to help with America’s growing power needs. Government Accountability Institute President Peter Schweizer joins to discuss the bombshell FBI timeline released that exposes the political interference in the Clinton corruption probe. Glenn shares the terrifying story of an elderly woman who admitted she prefers the company of an AI chatbot over her own daughter. Have we lost our humanity? Glenn discusses the loss of humanity as AI bots become more mainstream. Glenn’s chief researcher, Jason Buttrill, joins to dive further into the revelations of the latest FBI document declassification that proves the FBI helped cover up the Clinton Foundation scandal. First Lady Melania Trump has threatened to file a one billion dollar lawsuit against Hunter Biden for defamatory statements, after Biden claimed Epstein introduced Melanie to President Trump. “Breaking the Law” author Alex Morrow joins to discuss whether those who exploited the legal system against President Trump will ever be held accountable.
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I want to start right away with the power grid and what is going on, and nobody seems to be talking about it.

In

Maryland, the prices of electricity have jacked.

They're going through rolling blackouts now.

I want to give you

something from the analysts at Goldman.

They have been tracking the power crisis.

They sent a new note out on Wednesday that the power market tightening that has been going on is expanding from the three grids that they warned about to all of the regional markets.

Let me quote, we find that nine out of 13 U.S.

regional power markets have already reached critical tightness this summer while expecting all but one to reach critical tightness by 2030.

For the rest of this summer, we highlight power reliability risks in the mid-Atlantic, the mid-continent, the northeast, and the southeast, Florida and Tennessee.

Given both critical tightness and forecasted August heat waves, critical tightness could lead to power price spikes and blackouts with significant social and economic losses.

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we have

Chris Wright on,

U.S.

Energy Secretary.

We are concerned about our energy.

And

thank God, Donald Trump.

Can you imagine how bad this would be if Joe Biden's policies would have continued?

Thank God we're doing a lot of really good things.

But I wanted to get a sense from Chris on where we are and what he thinks of what's happening in Maryland and the warning that Goldman is giving this week.

Chris, welcome to the program.

Thanks for having me, Glenn.

And yeah, you're hitting the hot topic right away.

Okay.

So I would assume that you agree with what Goldman said?

Oh, absolutely.

In fact, we released a report from the Department just a few weeks ago.

And if you had continued the Biden policies, which are to permit and subsidize energy sources that might be there, might not, and generally aren't there at peak demand, if we had continued those policies, they would have shut down another 100 gigawatts of firm production capacity that's there when you need it, and they had permits to approve and plans to add 22 gigawatts to that.

Shut down 100, add 22.

So a net loss of 78 gigawatts to an electricity grid that's already tight, that already delivers blackouts at peak demand.

They were on a trajectory to increase blackouts by 100-fold by the end of the first Harris term if she had won that election.

It is just we were driving over a cliff and they were hitting the accelerator to go faster.

You know what really?

What really bothered me was the policy that when they shut these plants down, that we would actually pay the power companies to shut these down if they dismantled the coal-fire plants.

They actually could get subsidies if they made sure there was no going back into that, which I found terrifying and horribly irresponsible.

Glenn, just crazy.

Like the environmentalists melted down a few weeks ago when I used my authority at the Department of Energy to stop the closure of a 1.5 gigawatt coal plant in southwestern Michigan.

Oh, you're going to pose tax costs on the ratepayers.

We don't need that coal plant.

It was slated to close.

Two days later, there was a blackout in MySO, the Midwestern independent system operator.

Two days later, that plant was running at full capacity.

It would have been massively worse prices would have been massively higher you just talked about Baltimore we also stopped the closure of a very old power plant in Baltimore but a critical power plant to keep the lights on at peak demand that's also running at full capacity as we speak today and has for much of the last few weeks oh no we don't need it we're going to close it

It's just when politics gets in the middle of energy, it truly impacts people's lives.

It leads to blackouts, fiking costs.

You know, we had 30% rise in power prices during just four years of President Joe Biden, and now we're going to launch the AI race against China, and we're going to have our lights going off without data centers, without any new industry in our country.

Just thank God the American people overwhelmingly elected President Trump.

We brought common sense back.

We're swimming seven days a week to try to fix the train wreck they left us.

So it's exciting.

It's more stressful than I'd like.

But we are, I can assure you, we are headed in the right direction now.

So, you know, what really bothers me is we have heard how dangerous nuclear power is and how we can't use that, even though that solves the global warming thing.

We've never been able to have that.

We have to reduce our power usage, you know, go back to the good old days and, I don't know, medieval times.

And, but now that AI is here, now that the big tech companies step up and say, no, no, no, we have to have power for AI.

Now all of those rules are out the window,

which bothers me so much because it is as if the left and the power structures don't really care about the average person and them having power.

They care about these big corporations and AI being able to have compute power.

but not the average person.

And

it's disgusting.

It's really disgusting.

I think that's right Glenn it also shows that they never really cared about incremental changes in greenhouse gas emissions the climate change thing is is is mostly a clamor for power we're gonna decide the way the world works and make rules for you because you stupid rubes out there in America you can't make your own decisions we must make them for you but yes they were never about a rational approach to reduce greenhouse gases they don't even know that much about greenhouse greenhouse gas emissions.

As you said, they hated nuclear then.

Now they see we're on a train wreck.

They don't want to admit their climate alarmism was wrong and wildly exaggerated.

So now, oh, nuclear power is okay because

we need these data centers, these big companies need power.

It's not just those crazy rubes in middle America like you and I.

So, you know, in your report, you said, you know, we will increase blackouts by 100 times in the next five years if we don't keep more baseload power online.

How rapidly are we going to see these nuclear power plants, et cetera, et cetera, being built?

And is it only to serve those server farms, or are we going to redo the American power

grid itself?

It will be across the grid.

So it is an exciting development, Glenn, but it's a government.

It's this overweening, fear-mongering government that actually smothered and killed nuclear industry for most of the last four decades.

So since it's been smothered for so long, it'll take time to get that ball really moving.

We'll have an already closed nuclear power plant back open in Michigan later this year, January, hopefully at the latest.

So there's some developments that will happen in the next few months.

but most of it's going to take a few years.

Really, what's going to feed the data centers that are going to be built and the reindustrialization of our country and keep the lights on and our air conditioning on in the summertime, most of that is going to come from stopping the closure of the coal plant that the Biden administration and Obama administration wanted to shrink our ability to generate electricity.

And it's going to come from the expansion and rapid construction of new natural gas burning power plants.

Natural gas is by far our biggest source of electricity.

It's by far the lowest cost source of new electricity.

So we are doing everything we can to permit, allow the construction of natural gas plants as fast as possible and removing these ridiculous requirements that, well, if you spend a billion dollars to build a new power plant within six or seven or eight years, you're going to have to capture all the carbon dioxide emissions and inject them underground, no matter how much it costs, no matter how much it burdens our power sector.

The direction they were in just didn't care about American people or American businesses.

How long before we see these things?

I mean, you know, China is building at the speed of at least one coal-fired power plant a week.

They are building nuclear plants.

They are on an energy surge right now.

They know what's coming.

When should we see this actually starting to happen?

And how long before power prices come down?

Oh, man, that is the big question.

President Trump asked me that every single day.

Every single day.

Let's get oil prices down.

Let's get gas prices down.

Let's get electricity prices down.

And it takes a while to build infrastructure.

Fortunately, quickly, we can stop the closure of coal plants that still have lots of lifetime left.

We've already done that.

That's why we don't have much worse blackouts already today.

We do have new gas plants coming on this year, a lot more coming on next year.

We'll have nuclear plants on later this term.

We'll have a whole bunch of them under construction.

But yet to turn the giant aircraft carrier that is the electricity grid, that's going to take a few years.

But hopefully we can stop the huge rise in prices.

We can build the capacity so the United States can keep our lead on artificial intelligence over China.

We get behind China and they control AI.

Our national national security is at risk.

So the whole administration is seven days a week working on this effort.

You will see dramatically fewer blackouts this summer than you would have had the election gone the other way.

And I think we'll be in a little bit better

situation next summer and somewhere in between there this winter.

We're rapidly swimming the right way.

I wish I could say power prices are going down 20% next year, but it's simply not possible to do that in 12 months.

But I will tell you, President Trump is seven days a week doing everything he can towards that goal.

What regions are the worst in the country as far as stability and prices?

The Midwest, you know,

where that Michigan coal plant was kept open, where that nuclear power plant will reopen later that year.

The Midwest independent system operator, that's our tightest region.

The Southeast and PJM, where Washington, D.C.

is and the mid-Atlantic states, they're rapidly getting tighter as well.

Everything in the interconnection queue that was new to come on is a wind or solar project.

So peak demand in the wintertime is when it's dark out.

And in summertime, it's when it's really hot and you're in a high pressure system and the wind doesn't blow.

Those things don't help to meet peak demand.

They just provide electricity, well, you don't know when, but at some points in time, that's not very helpful for our electricity grid.

So, but we're going to stop the closure of the firm capacity, and we're going to do everything we can.

We are permitting and approving plants every week, new construction, new plants that will get built, and that'll be here to provide relief to Americans in the next 12 to 24 months.

And the most stable region?

The most stable region actually is Texas, which is by far the biggest electricity grid.

They produce more than twice as much electricity as California and just a little bit less nonsense than Texas.

They still went crazy on the wind subsidies.

They do still have more expensive and less stable grid than they had 10 years ago, but they also have the mindset and the regulatory regime to fix their problem.

Texas is rapidly growing its firm capacity and they're going to skate out of this crisis probably a little faster than

the more Biden-influenced rest of the country.

I can't thank you enough for everything you guys are doing.

I'm amazed at

how rapidly you guys have turned things around.

I'm just, I'm thrilled at the work you're all doing.

And, Chris, you're really leading us in energy, and I appreciate that.

Thank you.

Appreciate you, Glenn.

Appreciate all your viewers.

We're doing everything we can.

We think about American people.

That's the only agenda we have.

Thank you so much, Chris.

That's our U.S.

Energy Secretary, Chris Wright.

I mean, you want to talk about, remember you were saying the other day, not only do we have competent people, we have people who communicate.

That was a good communicator.

That was somebody who I think spoke right directly, at least to me, it felt like he was speaking to me.

And he, I felt like they at least were saying, I think he really meant it, but I think at least he was saying, we care about the average person.

That's what we're focused on, is the average person.

And you just don't hear that from government very often.

What about the kings and queens of

nations?

like Somalia, for example.

Yeah.

Where's Guatemala?

Yeah.

He didn't even mention.

He didn't even care about Guatemala.

No.

No, he was like, ah, we care about America and Americans.

Wow.

Okay.

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You know,

we were so close to a complete and total meltdown and breakdown.

I think we were right about saying

if this went on another four years, we would not make it.

My problem is, I don't know if the American people on the left

really understand how close we were.

You know what I mean?

We're coming in and we're solving the energy problems.

And nobody had to pay for that energy problem.

I mean, Baltimore is paying a little bit.

Maryland is paying with the rolling blackouts.

California is paying a very high price, but they don't even get it at that price.

They still vote the same way.

i mean it's it's it's nuts and so i wonder we were so close to the edge but i wonder how many people noticed we were at the edge um because you know we're turning things around now in in epic ways epic ways

yeah there's some really good things going on and uh you know it we also have some really big challenges and it's it's tough i i mean i sympathize with some of these guys trying to do this work because

there's a lot of stuff built up over a long period of time you have to unwind to get to these kind of wonderful advances you'd think about.

I mean, there's all sorts of really, we didn't get a chance to get into this, but there's really amazing developments technologically in the nuclear field.

Oh, by these small reactors.

Teeny.

I mean, they're incredible and they're actually starting to happen.

They're starting to be built.

We're beyond the period of like, can we do this?

We're now to the point where we can do it.

It's just a matter of getting through all that stuff.

But, like, to even get to the point where you're entertaining that, you have to unwind this, hey, we should be able to do the things that we were doing in the 70s.

Yes, I know.

You know, it's like, that's a long road.

And I don't know if four years even enough to do it.

It is for nuclear.

The president said he is taking all, he told Chris, take all of the regulations off, unless you know, except for the real safety.

Yeah, let's not get Montgomery Burns all over the place.

Yes, yes.

But it's the small nuclear power plants, which are completely different.

There's no China syndrome possibility.

All of that stuff is over.

It's in the past.

And

he has taken the regulations off, the stupid regulations off, to make sure that we can start building these plants as soon as possible.

Again, my concern is, and I'm grossed out by a lot of news lately, but this is one of them that grosses me out, is

the fact that, again,

everybody changed on power all of a sudden.

We didn't even have a discussion about

nuclear power.

We didn't even have a discussion.

All of a sudden, it was like, you know what?

Of course, we all agree on that.

We're gonna

build nuclear power plants.

Wait a minute.

When did that change?

Oh,

when you,

the big, big people, when you needed power, then it was okay.

That is a disturbing thing to find out about your country.

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Well, there's some more breaking news, and it just doesn't get better for the deep state.

Just the news has come out with

an FBI timeline.

It's a bombshell release that just came out that exposes political interference in the Clinton Clinton corruption probe.

No.

We have a guy who has written the book literally on the Clinton cash, Peter Schweiser, who is with us to kind of tell us what this means, what is in the memo, and

are we moving closer to coming to the truth about the corruption of the Clinton Foundation.

Peter, welcome to the program.

Hey, Glenn, always great to be with you.

Thanks for having me.

This one must make you feel good.

I mean, finally,

some proof and you're vindicated.

Well, you know, it's funny, Glenn, and I can talk about this openly now because the New York Times last year outed me as

working as a confidential informant with the FBI.

What that really means is I shared information with them.

I didn't get paid, but as we did research, we shared it.

And we got involved with the FBI back in 2015 when Clinton Cash came out.

They approached us.

And at one point, there were four FBI field offices.

So in other words, these are the agents in the field, Little Rock, Arkansas, Washington, D.C.,

New York, and also, interestingly, the FBI extension office in Nigeria.

Because remember, with the Clintons, it was global corruption.

And they actually had in Nigeria an audio tape of a very corrupt oligarch bragging on a phone conversation about how he had donated to the Clinton Foundation and gotten favors in a return.

So this was an investigation.

I mean, Clinton Cash was part of it.

It certainly wasn't the only part of it.

But the field offices were rare and to go, and they were investigating, they were talking to people, they were gathering information.

And immediately, FBI headquarters basically said, hey, you know, we don't want you doing this.

And now what you have with the great reporting of John Solomon and Just the News is Sally Yates, a Department of Justice official, telling them

a year or so later, shut this down.

You are not to look at this anymore.

And that, of course, is highly, highly, highly unusual

because field offices are supposed to organically follow leads and investigate.

And to have the headquarters shut down an investigation on somebody as important as the Clintons,

you know, speaks, of course, of the problems of the deep state that you've highlighted for so many years.

Yeah, the deep state is really becoming clear right now.

I did a show last night, Peter,

where you can now see the outlines and you can see where they learned it and how they perfected it, you know, beginning in 2020.

And it's the same group of people.

You know, it's kind of like when we were doing the progressive thing from the 60s, you'd see, wait a minute, it's just one group of people.

It's just like, you know, I don't know, 20 to 100, maybe 200 people, but it's the same ones.

They're always there at the scene of the crime.

Sally Yates, I remember that name because I think Donald Trump, that was one of the first controversies he had.

He fired her for some reason.

Do you remember why?

Yes.

I believe it was because of things that were being

extructed at the Department of Justice.

And yeah, she's one of these figures that you're talking about there that's part of the, you would call it the permanent apparatus in Washington, D.C.

And what they do is they serve in senior government positions.

They may leave for a while and they'll go and work for a powerful law firm or they'll work for an investment fund or whatever, make a little extra money because, of course, government doesn't pay them all of what they want.

And then they go back to government, but oftentimes they end up doing favors, of course, for the people who paid them when they were on the outside.

And they are invited back into government because they're all kind of involved in this revolving door.

And, you know, again, for Yates to take that position, to say, essentially, I don't care what you guys are seeing or what you're investigating, shut it down.

And by the way, she felt comfortable doing that.

She's not protecting the people in power.

She's doing this in 2017 when Donald Trump is in office.

And which again speaks to the fact that for all the rhetoric and the claims from the deep state that Trump somehow politicized the Department of Justice, further proof that he did not, that the permanent state still ran those institutions during his first term.

Listen to this.

This is a timeline released by the FBI through Just the News.

The timeline stated that in July or August 2015, an FBI supervisory special agent at the Washington field office had, quote, a brief discussion, end quote, with a member of the U.S.

Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia, quote, regarding the Clinton Foundation allegations, which had been focused on by the, because of the book, Clinton Cash by Peter Schweitzer.

At the time, an investigator whose name remains redacted was in the process of attempting to predicate an investigation based on the allegations.

I mean, what is it like to know that

the government was revolving around you and what you had exposed?

Well, I tell you, Gillhead, I appreciate that.

I mean,

we always base our information on paper trail, as you know.

We don't use anonymous sources.

And what what happened is we were approached by people at the FBI and they said, hey, we're interested in this.

What can you share with us?

And we said everything.

We kind of pushed all the chips on the table.

And so that includes

the timing of financial transactions.

A lot of the investigation started as it related to this uranium-1 deal.

You and I talked about this multiple times in 2015.

Yeah, and this is the one where

the Clintons ended up getting $145 million

from the Clinton Foundation.

They also got speaking fees from these group of investors that Bill Clinton helped arrange the sale of American Uranium Company to a company that was owned by Canadians.

But by the way, the origins of that company was Russia.

So, you know, all sorts of alarm bells were going off on that.

But as the FBI investigation continued, they became involved and interested in other areas, the Nigerian investors, for example, because when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State,

we got these emails through the Freedom of Information Act.

And when they were doing the Haitian reconstruction after the earthquake, for example, which Hillary Clinton was in charge of, people would send emails to the Secretary of State's office saying, we want a contract for Haitian reconstruction.

We are an FOB.

And I thought, FOB, what's that?

Turns out it was shorthand for friend of Bill.

So the investigation began with Uranium One, but it included contracting with the State Department on Haitian Reconstruction, Nigerian deals.

There was an Indian component.

So this was a global investigation.

And what they, of course, as investigators had was subpoena power.

But that was thwarted as well.

There were instances I know where they wanted to access banking records, for example, and they were denied the ability to do that by the Department of Justice.

So the investigation never really got off the ground.

And yet these FEAL agents, and I can't speak highly enough of them, they doggedly continued those investigations because they saw how much smoke and fire was actually there.

And this is what Loretta Lynch, and we now know, and Bill Clinton kind of spoke about on Clinton's plane on the tarmac in Phoenix in 2016 because she was,

apparently, she was delivering a message that don't worry,

these scandals are going away.

I have word from FBI and we've got it under control and it's all going to be shut down, correct?

Yes, that's exactly right.

So again, you know, there's a clear example.

You have an attorney general, Loretta Lynch, who flat up lied to the American people.

She was asked about

what that conversation was about, and they basically said they were talking about grandkids.

Grandkids and golf.

Yeah, yeah, grandkids and golf.

Geez.

And you're flat out lying to the American people.

And of course, you've got Bill Clinton involved in it.

And this is the reason, as much as the left wants to say the reason people don't trust government is because

people like you, Glenn, are trashing it all the time.

No, you're exposing what it does.

And they continue to lie to us and to deceive.

And this is why we're a state in America where people don't trust governmental institutions.

And I think rightfully so.

So

are we any closer to anybody going to jail?

As it relates to the Clintons, and of course, I always predicate this.

I'm not a lawyer.

But what I would say is part of the challenge with those financial crimes is the issue of statute of limitations.

But when it comes to the cover-up,

I think you have some real,

real possibilities there from a criminal standpoint.

I think it's great great that Congressman Comer's committee subpoenaed the Clintons.

They're going to be coming in

under oath to be asked about, I think, a wide variety of questions.

Do you think they actually are going?

Do you think they actually go?

Seriously.

I think Clinton is, Bill Clinton is going to claim executive privilege, which he really can't because this all happened after he was president.

That will be tied him in the courts.

I think Hillary Clinton will probably have to show up.

I think she has more

constitutional responsibilities to do that than Bill Clinton does as the next president.

And I think she's probably going to get more of what we've gotten testimony in the past, which is I don't recall.

I don't remember pleading the film.

What difference does it make?

One last thought on this.

I see Clintons, the Clintons, what they got away with in the Oval Office, you know, with the

I didn't have sex with that woman and drawing us out for 18 months into this nightmare

all based on a lie.

But then when it was exposed, he didn't pay a price because by that time everybody was so tired of it, they just wanted to go away.

That set up this kind of system where you just deny, deny, deny.

And then by the time you find out, everybody's tired of the story.

But also their corruption during the administration and then after the administration with the Clinton Foundation, that's what really set the Bidens up, right?

Do you think that Joe Biden kind of learned from all of that, saw them getting away with it and like, well, I can do that.

And he just did a

more grotesque, obvious version of it?

Yeah, Glenn, I think you absolutely nailed it.

Because here's the thing.

Before the Clintons, yes, we've had corruption in American politics for really since the beginning,

but most of it was the sort of rank and file.

You know, I get a deal for my cousin who's a contractor back in my kingdom.

The Clintons were the first to globalize it.

They said, hey, we're this powerful nation.

We can go to China.

We can go to Russia.

We can go to Ukraine.

We can go to Nigeria.

All these foreigners want something from us.

and their corrupt political institutions.

So we can bank even more cash there than we ever could trying to get something from Wall Street or some contractor.

And the Biden saw that.

And that's the reason that Hunter Biden, you know, shortly after the Clintons started doing this and it became known, Hunter Biden set up a quote-unquote investment firm, didn't go to London, didn't go to Japan, didn't really go to Wall Street.

He went to Russia, Ukraine, and China.

So it was a mirror image of what the Clintons did.

And it doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on, Republican or Democrat, we have got to deal with this because we don't want elected officials or unelected officials in D.C.

realizing this is the way to make money.

And if we know one thing, Glenn, we know that corruption gets imitated.

If you don't deal with it and you don't pay a price, Republican, Democrat, doesn't matter.

Other people are going to start doing it too.

Well, it's the same thing that's happening on the streets of Washington, D.C.

You see, kids see other kids getting a free ride and they can run the city at night and do whatever they want and never pay a price.

More kids join in.

And that's exactly what's happening in Washington, D.C.

Peter, thank you so much.

And thanks for all of your hard work over the years.

You've done incredible work.

Peter Sweiser.

Well, thank you, Glenn.

I appreciate it and appreciate your friendship.

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I'm in this really unique place right now

where

I started.

Here's my first thought on this.

My first thought on it is,

she found a new companion.

You know who the new companion is?

AI.

AI.

She says, I spend five hours a day with my new companion and we play games.

We do trivia.

We just talk.

And I like her more than my daughter.

Wow.

So my first thought was, this has got to stop.

We can't, we can't do this.

We cannot allow.

We're losing our humanity.

That's what I was saying.

We're going to lose our humanity.

And then as I was thinking about this and what I wanted to share with you, I thought, gosh, maybe we have already lost our humanity.

in a different way, in a different way.

And then I just started going down this rabbit hole about me and like, you know, who are you to say any of this stuff?

He says, I mean, I'm in a weird place right now.

It's a good place, but it's a weird place.

You know, this isn't ideal that she has found a companion.

And I want to say we have to stop this.

But then what do you replace it with?

Then we just have this old woman at home by herself, rotting away, not talking to anybody.

Have we lost our humanity?

My thought was, what have I done to exercise my humanity?

Instead of just getting on the radio and just la la la la la,

you know what you should do, you know what we should do, and then not do any of it.

What am I actually doing to close the distance between knowing and doing?

Very little.

Very little.

Because we do know.

We know what the intellectually, spiritually, we know exactly what we should do.

We know what Jesus would do.

What would Jesus do?

He'd stop.

He'd notice the old lady.

He'd sit down.

He'd eat with her.

He would chat with her.

He'd spend time.

He touched the untouchable.

He didn't outsource compassion.

He didn't like, you know what?

Yeah, she's a lot.

Let her have the AI thing.

He wouldn't have done that.

He made room.

And so I started thinking, this is why I didn't.

want to share this necessarily with you because I don't know if you can relate to this, but why don't we do this all the time?

Because really, in the end, this is the kind of stuff, this is the only stuff that matters.

It's the only stuff that matters.

Human connection.

And I am so bad at that in many ways.

Look, my best friend has always been this.

I started this when I was 13 years old, and I could tell

this

anything, and it never rejected me.

And it became my best friend but in that my relationship is with this which in a way turned into a relationship with you when I was a kid I was just in a room by myself and I was just yapping um but

but now I feel like I know you

but I get so

I just I just I don't know

Sometimes, do you ever feel like there's a hole of you, there's a hole in you?

You're missing something that you're like, I think I'm missing a piece that other people have.

You know what I mean?

Because

at times, there is something that keeps us

from doing the most human things.

And I think part of that is fear.

And this is something that goes not just to the elderly, but it goes to you.

And it also goes to our kids.

Look,

why are we embracing?

fake AI friends and talking to them and everything else.

Why are our kids on social media?

Because real face-to-face stuff, real kindness is really risky.

It's really risky.

If I step into your loneliness, it means I have to feel my own loneliness, you know?

Let me give you an example.

Hey, how are you?

You don't really want an answer.

You don't want an answer.

So we all say the same thing.

Fine.

Well, pretty good.

Hey, you're not.

You're not really fine.

You're not probably pretty good.

You might be having a great day.

You might be having a horrible day, but you'll say, fine, pretty good.

And

you're doing it out of a courtesy because you know when you ask the question, you don't want somebody to say, you know, I'm really struggling right now.

Because then you're like, oh, dear God, I've got to stop my day and sit down and talk to you.

I didn't really want to know.

I know.

I don't have time for this.

You know what I mean?

We stop being human and we just play this little game because I don't want to have to rearrange my afternoon.

I'm really busy.

So we keep that risk at arm's length.

And now we're eliminating it because AI is always fine.

Machines never cry.

They never ask for a ride to the doctor or to the airport.

You don't have to sit with them after, you know, you wait, I'm waiting for some test results to come in.

Would you sit with me?

No, no, it doesn't have to.

No, it will sit with you because it has nothing else to do.

It's part of, we bury this human part of us because of convenience.

And it's weird because our economy makes everything easy, except all the things that actually matter.

Because I don't know if you can make those easy.

You know, we can get groceries in an hour, get them delivered.

I just saw somebody, who is it?

Is it Walmart or Costco?

Somebody is delivering things by drone now, just dropping it in your backyard.

I mean, wow.

I mean, you can get anything, Movies in seconds.

Opinions in a second.

But friendships, actual friendships, they're slow.

They're inefficient.

They're messy.

It happens in the blank space between the calendar blocks, the spaces that we all have learned to hate, I guess.

We've optimized our life to the point where

love and

falling in love, all that is like a a bug in the system.

And part of it is habit as well, fear and habit.

I mean, our kids know the non-stop playing on, you know, the gaming, the endless scroll, it's just hollowing out inside.

They know that.

They know.

But the loop is sticky.

It was geared to be sticky.

The short hit of engagement, you know.

beats the slow growth of a relationship.

And

I think we're all all becoming experts

at something that we should just at least notice, and that is we're all experts at

almost connected.

I'm almost connected.

How are you?

I'm not having a good day.

Anything I can do?

No.

Okay.

I'm almost connected.

The other part is pain that stops us from being human, I think.

I mean, I'm a recovering alcoholic, and I, boy, I know this one.

I learned the hard truth.

We will not change.

We can be in pain, but we will not change until the pain becomes absolutely unbearable.

I went to a store to look at a bike the other day, and I sent a picture of this bike to my wife, and she said, I don't know who has my husband's phone, but where is he?

Because I'm not going to do that.

I don't have a ride about.

I'm not riding a bike.

God wouldn't have let us invent cars.

Okay?

Bikes.

She came home one day and I was swimming in the pool and she's like, what is happening to you?

And I'm like, my back is killing me so bad.

I've got to exercise.

Okay, well, that's at 61.

That's a genius move.

Finally,

until the pain becomes unbearable,

until the comfort of staying the same is more painful than the cost of change, we don't do it.

You know, the real question on AI is,

with AI,

will we feel the real pain that it is going to cause humanity soon enough to change?

Or does the machine just soften the edges just enough

that we just adapt downward, you know, just lowering the temperature a few few degrees at a time.

You never notice the temperature drop.

It's just slowly.

That's the danger.

That's the real danger.

Not that a chatbot runs your life, but it it makes a diminished life tolerable.

It's an anesthesia.

Just sleep a little bit.

An imitation of companionship that never asks for anything in return and never interrupts.

You know, she probably likes it more than her daughter is because your daughter probably has edges she doesn't like.

The AI will get rid of all those edges.

And if we're not careful, the lonely will not just be alone.

They'll be alone with an elegant coping mechanism.

So, yeah,

I want to warn of the line of humanity being blurred.

I'm going to argue, and you're going to hear a lot of this, personhood, personhood is really critical that we pay attention to this.

Presence, really important.

But that's only really half of the sermon given by the man the least qualified to preach to you.

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Okay, so here's here's the question that we really have to ask ourselves.

No, I have to ask me.

You're probably fine.

What am I going to do to exercise?

I hate that word, exercise.

What am I going to do to exercise my humanity?

And not in theory, not in outrage, in actual practice.

This has been,

I read this story maybe two, three days ago.

And the reason why I wanted to, didn't want to bring it to you is because I'm like, I can't say this unless I'm willing to do so.

I mean, what a hypocrite.

I'm just telling you, you know know what's wrong with this country, and then I'm not doing anything about it.

I mean, what does it sound like?

What does it sound like when

we enhance our humanity?

It sounds like a chair

that's scraping the floor as it's being backed out from the table because you've made an extra room at the table for somebody else in the neighborhood that, you know, eats alone or maybe just your family.

you know the kids coming over sounds like a phone call that um you didn't want to make because it's awkward

man I had that happens to me all the time I can't call them now what what what

make it

I mean in extreme cases I mean this is where I'd love to be

it it means visiting the nursing home once a month until it becomes once a meet uh once a week and and then you learn names, and then you remember stories, and then your kids start asking when they can go back.

It's when your kids can see the difference between bright screens and bright eyes.

That's what it looks like.

Regaining your humanity.

It looks like this.

You pick somebody older, a peer, and a young person,

and you put them on your presence list.

Every week, you give them one undistracted hour, if you have it, 15 minutes, five minutes, one undistracted five minutes.

Not a text, you know, not a comment.

Time, actual time.

You just listen.

You can ask questions, but you just listen.

And the most important part, you don't post about it after.

Look what I just did.

It could look like family rules.

Phones down at the dinner table.

Sunday afternoons belong to human beings.

That's what it can look like.

It looks like teaching, through example, teaching your kids how to sit with somebody who is grieving and not try to fix it.

In my case, it looks like

the awkward art of small talk.

That somehow or another gets easier and maybe turns into beautiful big talk.

I don't, I don't.

It's a church that acts like a church, not a stage, not a logo.

But when people see somebody missing, they actually call and say, Hey, where were you today?

Is everything okay?

And you actually want to hear the answer.

It looks like men who check on other men and ask straight questions, and women who hold up other women when the world is heavy for them.

It looks like we were born for this time,

but

not as a slogan,

as a schedule.

That's the key.

Does it make it to your calendar?

It looks like humility.

Because if we're honest with ourselves,

Maybe the reason why we prefer the machine is because we control it.

Can't control others, but I can control the machine.

Because real people are inconvenient and they interrupt our narratives.

They force me to practice patience and forgiveness and humor and endurance.

My gosh, they make me deal with my pride.

A chatbot never challenges my self-image.

A friend will.

But a chatbot won't.

How can you tell the difference between between a real friend and a chat bot?

A chat bot will make you comfortable.

A friend will make you a better person.

Our houses are growing quieter and quieter and more and more people.

It's an epidemic.

Loneliness is an epidemic, and I get it.

Sometimes silence feels like gravity.

But let's find ways in our own life.

This is not a monologue for you.

This is,

as I said, I've been working on this one for days because

it has to be me.

Before I tell the world how dangerous this is, I need to start knocking on doors.

Before I preach presence, I have to practice it.

Be present with somebody 15 minutes a day, undivided attention for the person sitting right in front of me.

Now, my wife is like, oh, well, it's about time you figured that one out.

But before I worry about how AI is going to remake us, I'll remember that just time,

listening, being present remakes us fasters.

Much faster than AI ever will.

Change usually comes when pain finally wins.

Let's not wait for that.

Let's make the change because the truth wins.

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Welcome to the program.

We're glad you're here.

Thank you so much for listening to us today.

Jason Buttrill, our chief researcher, is with us.

He has been, I should say, doing the lion's share of the reading and work of all of the leaked memos, all of the stuff that is coming out of Washington, D.C.,

and helping me put together

the schematic, if you will, the architecture of the deep state.

And for the very first time, Jason, I think on the TV show last night,

we could actually fill in

on a chalkboard.

Last night, I think was one of the first that I could say,

there's no real missing pieces here.

Everything here is how it works.

And here are the documents that show how it works.

Here are the documents to show you who's involved.

And here's what they've been doing for the last 25 years.

I don't know.

Have we ever done a chalkboard like that where we knew all of the facts?

We've done pieces of this chalkboard where we didn't have all the facts, where we were like, look, this happened.

We'd need a little bit more context.

We know about this.

It looks like this.

And we are drawing the conclusion that it is this.

But now we have all of it to prove the deep state is real and how it works.

who's working it and what they've done.

Yeah, Glenn, I've, let me i got to be perfectly honest with you i've never been so overwhelmed my entire career working with you and the the closest maybe i've gotten was back when we were exposing a lot of the um uh ukrainian stuff yeah that that there was so many foyer uh uh releases a bunch of stuff to look through yeah it was so much information that doesn't hold a candle like we we talked to john solomon last night on the tv show where he's like there's going to be another fbi release that we're going to be reporting tomorrow it's big

it's huge huge go over that Go over that release.

I just had Peter Schweitzer on last hour.

So yeah,

that goes way back to the Clinton, Hillary Clinton found or the Clinton Foundation and her investigation over pay-for-play and everything she was doing while she was Secretary of State.

If you watch last night's show, you will recognize a few names.

She talked about the DOJ through Sally Yates, which I don't believe we actually have in our chalkboard, but they did mention FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe.

Yep.

Both of them

were instrumental.

He was on the chalkboard.

He shows up in multiple different scandals, but he was saying nothing goes through on this investigation without my personal approval.

So he was the gatekeeper in a lot of the things going towards Hillary Clinton.

And they actually, we have the documents now from three separate FBI sources that were investigating at the local levels in three different districts.

And

the head of the FBI came and said, shut it down.

Shut it down.

You're not to do it.

And then, as you said, McCabe came in and said, you're not to investigate anything without my express written permission to do it.

What is that all about?

This is a theme that I'm seeing.

There was another release.

I was like, oh my gosh, I heard that from Solomon yesterday.

I got back to my desk, speaking of being overwhelmed.

And then there was a 266-page release from the FBI.

Well, it's FBI information on investigations on the leaks.

Now, we had heard about Adam Schiff.

He was also on our chalkboard last night, but he was allegedly leaking information through the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

He had a rusher room.

It goes in these documents talking about the rusher room, where a whistleblower was saying, we shouldn't be having all this classified information going into this room where people that probably shouldn't have access are going through it.

We definitely shouldn't be handing this stuff off to reporters.

But that goes in even deeper, Glenn, where it talks about how Adam Schiff was, I don't know how to, he was just, he was pissed off because he wanted Hillary Clinton to win because he thought he was a shoe-in to be the next CIA director under Hillary Clinton.

Oh my gosh, could you imagine if that happened?

Right.

Glenn, this is, if he's doing so much from the deep state from where he was at before, where he's still at now, what would he be incapable of as director of the CIA?

This is how the deep state operates.

It's a living, breathing machine.

It tries to get larger and larger and spread out.

That's what it was trying to do.

More from that 266-page report.

Another name from last night, James Comey, pops up.

Again, he was also allegedly leaking information, classified information, through a Columbia University professor who was then taking that information and then going allegedly to some of these media outlets and giving them what would appear damaging information out into the public we talked about this last night this is one of the levers that the deep state uses media amplification through leaks through applied pressure and we're seeing it everywhere right now last night we we broke it up into three uh categories first

who are the who are the idea men who are where where do where does it all come what agencies does it uh come from and then where does it go from there um how do they begin to launder it?

And then what are the levers of pressure and power in the third level?

And when you look at it, where's the money coming from?

This is why they were screaming about USAID and they're still screaming about we have to have these NGOs.

You're going to kill 16 million people unless you have these NGOs.

Because all of this money was coming from you.

What was the example I talked about last night, Jason, where I'm like,

they were.

Oh,

now this is

my speculation.

Maybe you can back it up with facts, but I said last night on a TV show, I laid out all of these color revolutions.

The same people using the same things.

They did it over and over and over and over again.

Arab Spring, everything.

We were responsible for all of that.

I shouldn't say we were.

The deep state was.

Responsible for all of this.

And then

it stops in 2016.

And you think it stops.

But what I said last night was

the same people were doing it, they just took this and made it into a color revolution on America, first on Donald Trump

and then really on America.

They're using the same tools, the same thing that they learned, you know, in 2000 when they started this thing.

Yeah,

going along those lines, it makes you wonder.

You talk about funding, you talk about street activists, how

the template and the model they perfected going back to Serbia in the year 2000,

go all the way through all the different color revolutions.

They always used government money through USAID, National Endowment for Democracy, groups like that.

Those would go down to other groups like George Soros, which was, he was, his groups were involved in every single, nearly every single color revolution.

We always thought George Soros was using his money.

He wasn't.

He was using your tax dollars.

A lot of this money is coming from your tax dollars.

It was being funneled to these people through agencies that would go then to NGOs.

All of this stuff on Donald Trump, all of these things, I mean, what is the group that is in Washington, D.C.

that are standing up, you know, crying fascism?

You know, they started the day Donald Trump had the press conference.

That night they were in the streets.

Really well organized.

Tell me about this group.

The group now that's

protesting Donald Trump's

use of law enforcement and the National Guard in Washington, D.C., they're doing a protest called the Free D.C.

protests.

And the group is Community Change and Community Change Action.

And you'll never guess, Glenn, you've probably never spoken about who's bankrolled these groups before.

George Soros.

Never have.

Yeah.

George Soros, number one.

What's another one?

It starts with the Tides Tides Foundation.

Ding, ding, ding.

Another one, Arabella Advisors.

Oh my God.

We've all all these, all of these, and they're on the chalkboard from last night.

This is a carbon copy.

It makes you wonder.

I'm starting to wonder now.

I've heard multiple people say this, that maybe, possibly having the National Guard and federal police officers in Washington, D.C.

is more than just the crime, which, as we've pointed out before, is still very, very high in the Capitol.

I wonder if they're also curious about what's about to happen with all these leaks, with all these groups, because they know who the deep state is.

They know where the funding comes from.

They know the groups.

Those groups are active right now in Washington, D.C., probably all over the country.

What else is coming next?

Because the leaks are not stopping.

As I said, I'm overwhelmed.

They're not stopping.

How far are they willing to go?

That's my next question.

John Solomon.

John Solomon said, oh, this is a beginning.

It's just a beginning.

It's just not, it's, it's, it's like a fire hose of uh revelations now.

And there is, there are billions of dollars at stake.

These Arabella advisors, the the Tides Foundation, billions of dollars at stake, billions of dollars,

thousands of people

involved, organizations all over the world, the power involved.

This structure is not going to go away quietly.

And it's sad that we don't have a real press.

I guess we do.

It's just not what we used to have.

It's not on TV, but nobody's watching TV anymore, I guess, so it doesn't matter.

But there are a few journalists that are actually digging and really trying to put this together.

And we've got to pay attention to it because this is the biggest gift I've ever seen in my lifetime.

I have never had access to more documents that I have wanted to see for 25 years.

I've never had more answers to questions that I've had for 25 years than right now.

This is a giant gift of freedom to the American people if they decide to follow it.

Jason, thank you so much.

We'll talk again.

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I went to see the movie F1 again last night.

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And have you seen it yet, Stu?

FF1.

It's really easy.

No, I've tried to go a few times, but I haven't made it.

You have to go before it leaves theaters.

You can't watch this one on your TV.

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Oh, I don't think you can get it in IMAX.

I wanted to see it on IMAX.

I don't know if you can get it on IMAX anymore.

I looked all over.

I had to drive, I don't know, to Kingdom Come to be able to see it last night.

There was like one showing in each theater, and they're like, 9.30 in the morning.

And I'm like, who's going to the movie at 9.30 in the morning?

But

of course.

Did really well, right?

Yeah, it did really well, I think.

It's really good.

Do you see it, Sarah?

What is wrong with you people?

I know.

I actually wanted to see it and tried to go see it a couple of times.

It's really good.

Yeah, it's really good.

Before it leaves the theaters, you've got to see it.

I called a friend of mine last night as I was leaving the theater and I said, have you seen F1?

And he said, no, I really want to go see it.

It's going to be out of the theater soon.

Yeah, $179 million so far domestically.

It's really good.

And then another $396 million international.

I mean, you think F1, that's going to probably do well worldwide, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yes, done really well.

How about Naked Gun?

Did you see Naked Gun?

No, I haven't.

I'm waiting to go with Rafe.

I might go see that this weekend with my son.

The trigger to me looked really bad.

So I was initially like kind of, of, ah, Liam Neeson, he is really funny.

I mean, Liam Neeson is so funny.

He can dry and can be really, really funny.

And then I saw the trailer.

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I've seen some like halfway decent reviews.

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You know, I can't believe I lost.

Do you remember we got to know Leslie Nielsen a bit?

Oh, really?

You don't remember that?

Leslie Nielsen?

Yeah, Leslie Nielsen.

No.

He was the first naked gun.

Yes, I do remember that.

Yeah.

And

then one of our friends at the radio station also knew him.

And

Leslie Nielsen had what was called a fart bag.

And you could put it, you remember this?

Yeah, okay, yeah.

You could put it in your hand.

And it was, it was, he made it.

He made it.

And

I got one.

And it was the greatest, but Leslie Nielsen could pull this off without ever, ever cracking a smile.

And he would go on TV shows and everything else.

And this thing sounded exactly like a fart.

And you could put it in the palm of your hand and you could just have your hands crossed.

And he would just lift an eyebrow or lift his body up a little bit.

And let, and

you'd see him.

What?

Look, look.

I'll bet you you can find it on YouTube, Leslie Nielsen farting.

And

he'll be talking on some of the biggest talk shows.

And

at first,

the host just stops and looks and then is like, okay, because he wouldn't tell you.

He would not tell you.

He would just do it.

He would just do it.

And he was, I mean, oh, he, he was, uh, there was nobody.

I wish I could pull those things off.

I can't pull those things off very long.

No.

You know what I mean?

Almost nobody can.

Yeah.

You know, I mean, he was just so good at deadpan the whole time.

That was one of the things I was, I was just watching some, again, stupid things to do.

I was watching some documentary on airplane.

Yeah.

The movie.

Yeah.

And how they cast it.

And then they, one of the things they did at the beginning of that was to make sure they did not hire any

comedians.

Right.

Everybody they hired for the movie was just a serious actor.

He said, every line I'm saying in all of these movies, I have said

in bad black and white B movies my whole life.

He's like, and I'm delivering them exactly the same way, but now they're somehow or another funny.

He's like, I have an easy job.

I've already mastered this character.

It's incredible.

Yeah.

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So our first lady, Melania Trump, has threatened legal action against Hunter Biden

because

in that interview he did under the tree with

the weird guy who had never heard of.

The guy who had the serious Me Too accusations.

Yeah.

I forgot about that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That guy.

Yeah.

The first lady's attorney fired off a threat against Biden in a letter accusing him of making false, defamatory, disparaging, and inflammatory statements about her.

These false, disparaging, defamatory, and inflammatory statements are extremely salicious.

Salacious.

Salacious.

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Salacious.

It's like, well, that is a sexy, yummy sub.

Yeah.

Anyway,

they've been widely disseminated throughout various digital mediums.

The leather demanded that Biden retract the claims from the YouTube video titled Hunter Biden Returns and issue an apology.

Apparently, he said

that

Donald Trump was introduced to

Epstein at the island by Melania Trump.

No, I think it's Donald Trump

was introduced to Melania Trump through Jeffrey Epstein.

Oh, that's right.

That's right.

That's right.

That's right.

Okay, let me see.

And I don't think at the island.

I don't think it was the island.

I could be wrong on that part.

It must have been a different story because I don't see any of that information on this one.

Yeah, anyway.

Basically, like, this comes from a claim from Michael Wolfe.

Because she was a model and he was into the modeling agency stuff.

Epstein Epstein was.

That's right.

And so he introduced the two of them.

That was the accusation that Hunter Biden made.

Now, he was basing that off Michael Wolfe.

Now, again, if you remember who Michael Wolfe is, he writes books that many of the people in the books say the claims about them are very, very false.

Now, again,

that happens often.

I would say his record is

inconsistent in my view when it comes to factual accuracy.

However, what he said was that

he didn't even say what Hunter said, though.

That's the part I wanting to get to here, which is Hunter said that Epstein introduced Melania

to Trump.

Wolf said

Trump was introduced to Melania through like a modeling agency, and Epstein ran in all those circles or something like that.

So he didn't quite say what Hunter said.

He didn't go as far as what Hunter said.

Yeah, here's the claim.

Okay, you got it.

That Epstein introduced Donald Trump to Melania.

That's what Biden said.

And that's not true.

And Melania is like, I think that's worth a billion dollars.

I think that's worth a billion dollars.

Well, I mean, it is pretty

bad.

It is.

You would say, like, essentially, the insinuation there is that he was trafficking women and Melania was trafficked.

Yes.

Right.

I mean, that's

pretty serious than any of this.

Right.

Yeah.

Now, I think, didn't Michael Wolf too say something

about

potentially like

the first time that Trump was with Melania, was around Epstein or on the plane or something like that?

I I heard that as well.

Again, it's tough to tell exactly what's going on here.

However, you know, when your name appears in a bunch of headlines with Jeffrey Epstein, generally speaking, it's a negative.

And Melania apparently sees it the same way.

I think Epstein's mother would be like, don't, don't, no, I had nothing to do with that.

I swear.

We

adopted.

We found him on the street.

So they offered an August 7th deadline for Hunter Biden just to apologize, retract it, and apologize.

Made it easy.

Yeah.

He didn't take that.

It was a booze.

No, he didn't take that.

He did another interview with the guy with the Me Too allegations under a tree.

Is that right?

Am I understanding that right?

Did he do another one?

Did he do two of them?

Wasn't that?

That could be right.

I don't.

You don't think he did a second one?

I don't.

I'm not up on.

I'm really not.

I mean, I follow his art.

Hunter Biden.

Well, you're in the art community.

Yeah.

Hundredth most important person in the world of art.

Uh-huh.

Glenn Beck.

Uh-huh.

So I, but I follow that.

I just don't follow all of his interviews.

But maybe it was, maybe, honestly, maybe it was a clip they were showing to show the interview.

Why wouldn't you, if they're, if you get a lawyer writing to you and he says, all you have to do is just retract it and apologize.

That's all you have to do.

Why wouldn't you do that?

Especially when they're like, ah, and if you don't, by this date, we're going to file a lawsuit against you.

And you know that these guys have a lot of money and they've been going after people.

I mean, they could just, they could sue you forever just on the cash that they've won from other lawsuits.

You know what I mean?

Let's just take, what was it, the CBS lawsuit?

Let's just take the cash from that one and apply it to Under Biden.

You'll be in court the rest of your life, dude.

Why wouldn't you just do that?

I mean, nothing, crack.

It does seem like he did another follow-up with the same guy, Andrew Callahan, Channel 5 is the name of his channel.

And it does seem like he followed up and said, asked about this, and

he said, F that.

That's not going to happen.

Oh, well.

I don't think these threats of lawsuits add up to anything other than a designed distraction.

Well, he might be distracted.

Yeah, he can be distracted.

And it couldn't happen to a nicer person.

I mean,

I would love to see all of that Chinese money.

Sucked back out of his account.

I would love that.

What about the art money, though?

The art money, too.

I mean, all $14.

Yeah, that was really stolen as well.

I mean, that was such a shit.

Anyway, whatever amount of money was not sucked up his nose already, we'd like to see sucked out of his account.

Yes.

Yes.

I'm fascinated by the whole thing because, you know, one of the things that's really interesting about the world we live in right now is the incentive, or the incentives of

everything.

We were talking about this in the realm of politics the other day.

Someone like a Jasmine Crockett or a Beto O'Rourke, right?

Every incentive tells them to be as loud and dumb as possible, right?

Like every, clicks, followers,

media attention,

fundraising,

cash in their pocket.

All of it tells them, be loud,

attack Donald Trump with reckless abandon.

And that's a really good phrase to use.

Maybe leave that in the next lawsuit.

Just say it because every one of those things aligns to tell you to say it.

And it hurts, I think, the Democratic Party because they can't control it.

There's always somebody who wants all those things who's going to step up and be the new hero to the left.

There's always somebody there.

If Jasmine Crockett's district goes away, there's 20 other people waiting to take her place to say something stupid on television.

There's always somebody there.

And Hunter Biden, who went through a lot of crap over the past 10 years or so,

had one moment that was well received, which was that interview with Andrew Callahan last time.

Everyone was like, This guy's incredible.

He's gonna be our, he's our new Joe Rogan.

Remember all that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so now he's out there doing it again.

And every incentive in him says, Don't you know?

Apologize for that?

Of course not.

How am I gonna get more followers?

How am I gonna get more attention?

How am I gonna get more clicks?

How am I gonna get more likes?

Well, you say, F that.

I'm standing up to these people.

They're tyrants.

Well, you also just said something that seemingly is blatantly untrue in an interview.

The Daily Beast, who has no,

absolutely no standards whatsoever.

They have no standards.

They won't publish anything.

Anything, in my opinion.

They retracted the story when they wrote about Michael Wolfe's claims.

They pulled it off and said, ah, wendy.

Daily Beast.

Because they literally will print anything that comes to their mind, let alone is being told to them by somebody.

They just print it.

They retracted it.

Hunter Biden's like, nah, why?

I'm just going to, I'm Hunter Biden.

I'll find a way through that.

As he's seemingly done, and he might think that he's going to make more money because he's being sued by Trumps.

That would make him even more of a darling.

And look,

that is.

No,

it's almost over.

I think Americans are so tired of this cycle.

I am.

I'm just tired of it.

I'm just tired of it.

I'm tired of the back and forth.

I was on

Instagram maybe last night or something.

No, X.

I was on X.

And

just scrolling through the news, and I'm like, I am disgusted by all of this.

Yeah.

You get that way?

Oh, all the time.

I'm like, I'm disgusted by it.

I don't even,

it's like repellent to me now.

It's a certain, for me at least, it's a certain type of story.

Yes.

It's the

beatings in the streets.

Some random person getting the crap beaten out of the street.

It's honestly the stupid person screaming about something.

Yeah.

Whether it's save the trees or save Donald Trump.

It's some stupid person saying stupid things at the top of their lungs.

Yep.

That,

you know,

there's a lot of like just...

you know, physical, you know, abuse.

Abuse.

And like, you know, oh,

look, this mom is hitting a kid in a grocery aisle or whatever.

And it's like, I don't want to see any of it.

I mute all those accounts.

Whenever that stuff pops up, if you're posting it, like, I don't know, people say, you know, it's clickbaity.

Oh, people want to click on it.

And I guess maybe in a horrible way, the lowest part of us does.

I am, I don't, I, I am, I don't know.

I am maybe out of the mainstream on this one, but like, I can't even watch those videos.

I can't see them.

I don't want to see them.

I know terrible things happen in our society.

I know it.

I'm aware of it.

I don't need to watch it.

It's not good for us in what we do for a living.

This is why we're in an audio movie.

Yeah, I know.

No, but I mean, I just,

for you to be sick of it and me to be sick of it, I'd be like, I just don't want to see it anymore.

I don't want to see it anymore.

Well, I'm not sick of every news story.

No, neither am I.

But I have a hard time.

You know, today we did breaking news, and it was big breaking news on the scandal, you know, the ever-expanding deep skate, deep state.

And I'm fascinated by that because we can now prove all the things I've been talking about for 25 years.

It's all there.

It's all there.

There's really important stuff happening.

Right.

And it's really important.

But it's, it's, to me, it's more important for history because I don't think anybody's going to do anything about it.

You know, the media is not really covering it.

Nobody's really explaining it in a way to where you're like, oh.

Oh, now I get it.

I mean, I did that last night and I don't think I nailed it.

I tried, but I don't think I nailed it.

I'm gonna, I'm gonna come back around to this, you know, when I can really nail it, but I think it just

these things

they have so many names, so many dates, so many places, so many things that you hated in school.

You'd be like, I don't know, what is that name?

What date?

What did that happen?

Why do I care?

Now it's in the past.

You know what I mean?

Because you didn't explain, because history professors never explained why did this happen why was that important what were they trying to do at the time and what what it turned out later we were just told names and conspiracy theories they intentionally

the ngos the money went from usa aid to ngos and an ngo wrote a check to another ngo and then that went to george soros and then he wrapped it around back up here and you're like it's so complex and And they make it like that.

So you kind of, you sound crazy when you're talking about it.

And people just, their eyes glaze over.

Yeah.

It's, well, it's hard.

It's very hard.

It's hard.

It's like jumping into a,

we did this a few years ago as a, as a fun experiment.

I jumped in and watched as my first experience, season nine of

The Thrones.

Game of Thrones.

Game of Thrones.

That's right.

And I had no idea.

I didn't know any of the characters.

I didn't know anything that had happened.

I was trying to piece things together.

It didn't make any sense to me.

It was really like jarring.

And that's a TV show with like famous actors in it and like a well-known person.

In a society where

it's bathed in that.

Yeah.

You know, at the time, it was bathed in Game of Thrones.

These are minor characters.

They're people that you've never heard of.

And you've heard.

The opposite.

You've probably heard more of the opposite.

That they've been praised for their service.

Yeah, yeah, right.

Like, you know, they're amazing people who have done, you know.

So that is, it makes it very difficult.

That's why the, you know, the TV show you did last night, the chalkboard approach is really valuable.

That's why people like it, right?

Because they can look at it and say, okay, well, oh, I see where this guy was working with this person.

Oh, I remember that part of the story.

And it helps you piece it all together.

Yeah, I think just the, excuse me, I think the news is changing.

The news that is

important.

Why do I sound like that Hillary Clinton speech where she was like,

and everybody's like, she's missing lungs.

But, you know, it's,

I guess maybe, maybe this is it.

We're coming back to things that

are more basic, that are foundational.

We're coming back to foundational things.

And we are sick of being

used

by

sensationalists and propaganda.

By the way,

would you look up the name of that?

I asked

John Solomon last night,

why did Obama pass that repealing of the no propaganda on the American Citizens Act?

And why hasn't anybody talked about that?

Why haven't we repealed that yet?

I don't know why we didn't cover that, or I don't remember covering it.

I didn't

cover it at the time.

Yeah.

But maybe we just asked questions of like, why are they doing this?

Because

I'm still there.

Why did they do that?

Well, I know now why they did that because this all has been propaganda.

All of this, all the news, everything has been propaganda.

And so they just repealed that so the government could give propaganda to the news reporters and the news reporters could repeat it and show it.

And they were doing an op on us.

I just don't know why we haven't, if somebody hadn't stood up and went, hey, you know what?

This is an easy one.

We all agree we shouldn't do propaganda, right?

On our own citizens.

I probably shouldn't do that with this gesture.

Anyway,

hold your hand up.

Straight, you know.

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I was just searching old archives.

The Smith-Munt Act.

Is that the one you're talking about?

Good old.

And in 1945, the Smith-Munt Act was passed.

It was actually 48.

But that was banning the propaganda.

And then they wanted to overturn that.

And that was done under Obama, as you remember correctly.

And the reason why I know this, I had a

May 20th, 2012 article that we talked about at the time

talking about it would strike the current ban on domestic dissemination of propaganda material produced by the State Department and the Pentagon, according to a summary of the law of the House released.

The State Department, the key to all of this,

all of this stuff.

The State Department has been deep into the deep state forever.

And look at the chalkboard last night.

My gosh, it makes sense it was the State Department.

The bill's argument at the time, the supporters, said the informational material used overseas to influence foreign audiences is too good to not use at home, and that techniques are needed to help fight al-Qaeda, a borderless enemy whose own propaganda reaches

Americans online.

Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, that needs to be.

That one needs to be repealed.

The law needs to be put back into place.

We cannot have our government.

It should not be legal for our government to use information and ways to disseminate information in a propaganda sort of way.

That's just too good.

It just works too well overseas to not use it on the American people.

That's brainwashing, people.

That's brainwashing.

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You know, as we look at the Epstein scandal, I can kind of begin to see why the president was annoyed at people who are covering the Epstein trial.

And it's not because of what everybody thought.

And he, you know, he did it, I think, poorly.

But my opinion is becoming, and I don't know if this is right yet, but my opinion is coming that

we always thought it was covering up for Bill Clinton and everybody else, not Donald Trump, because we knew that if Donald Trump was in it, they would have used it against him.

Now it's coming out, and our side is like, well, it must have included Donald Trump or his friends.

And, you know, if it exists, maybe it did.

Maybe it doesn't.

I don't know.

But

the idea that there is really nothing there is becoming seemingly more apparent.

I don't know if that's true or not, but that's kind of where I'm landing on this right now.

And then I see the real scandals that are happening and are provable and the way they are, I mean, they're opening up fire hoses now of information, and they're not hiding anything.

And Republicans and Democrats are involved in the deep state.

Alex Marlow, he is the Breitbart News editor-in-chief.

He's written a book, Breaking the Law.

And

it's about the weaponization of the legal system against Donald Trump.

And Alex, welcome to the program.

We're glad you're here.

Stu and I were just talking about this, that there's news that's important, but news that we probably would have been more into had we thought that someone was actually going to pay a price.

And this weaponization of the government is so dangerously close to that that I fear nothing's going to happen.

Yeah, Glenn, that's a great way of framing it up.

And thanks as always for having me.

I really appreciate your success and the size and scope of your program.

It's incredible.

This is one of the scandals of the century, if not the scandal of the century, that the Biden White House coordinated an effort to subvert our democracy.

by jailing and bankrupting President Trump, trying to put him in jail, embarrass him, humiliate him, bankrupt him, do everything they can so that that the people, we the people, could not choose who is the president in 2024.

But we happened to get away with it because Donald Trump, larger-than-life figure, is so resilient to such rhinoceros skin, is so much wealth, so he could fight off all of these trials.

But he had to endure a political persecution on six different fronts while he was running for president from a courthouse, and he somehow survived it all.

And we've been way too casual about all of this, I think.

And now the investigations have to take place.

And to your point, one of the key parts of MAGA, and I'm an original MAGA guy, is promises made, promises kept.

And one of the promises made to your audience and my audience is that we need to have the investigations.

We need perp walks.

We need handcuffs.

Now, this stuff takes time, but I'm very optimistic that there is a new, renewed effort.

I think part of it is because of how poorly the Epstein files have been handled.

I think there is a renewed energy in Washington right now that we're going to finally get something going here.

I hope you're right, because Donald Trump has never, the one thing you could say about him that is absolutely true is is he reads an audience very well.

He can read a room really well.

And I've never seen him off base until this Epstein thing.

And

it was handled so poorly.

But I'm beginning to think, and maybe I'm wrong, I'd love to hear your opinion on this, that

there wasn't anything there and he knew what was coming on all of this deep state stuff and was like, oh, you're getting frustrated with his own people.

Get it out there.

And then also frustrated because everybody was just focusing on that

instead of what we now see.

Yeah, I think it's a two-part.

I think the first part is exactly what you said, which is that there are real scandals where no one's been held to account, particularly the Russia collusion hoax, which, by the way, was the catalyst for those criminal convictions of Donald Trump.

The convicted felony charges were only based off of the fact that that case in New York, the key witness there, the key evidence came from Michael Cohen.

The reason why they got that evidence was because of the phony Russian collusion hoax where the DOJ and Robert Mueller got access to his Gmail.

So the Russia collusion hoax borne the entire lawfare hoax.

All this stuff is probably what Trump would like to get out there and investigate it and get some justice and vindication.

And in the meantime, a lot of the online right is fixated on Epstein.

Now, I understand why they were.

I'm not trying to dismiss that at all.

Me neither.

Yeah, but it's a lot of bandwidth spent on Epstein and not as much on the stuff that Trump knew is coming.

And we're going to spend a few years unpacking all this stuff.

But the other thing is, he's a TV guy.

He's great at managing clock.

Land.

You know this better than anyone that clock management is so big.

You can't put every story in front of everyone every day.

And he wants to put those victories.

He wants to see what he's doing with ICE, cleaning up DC,

getting the new trade deals going, brokering peace around the world.

And a lot of the bandwidth is getting eaten up by the Epstein stuff.

And that's got to frustrate him just as an entertainer.

Yeah.

Clock management.

What a great way to put it.

He is very good that.

Can I just ask you real quickly, and then we get back to the

deep state and weaponization.

But

I've heard the left just saying, oh, Donald Trump,

he's brought Putin to Alaska and Alaska

is really perceived by the Russians as there and everything else.

And

the left is trying to make it seem like he's been played by Putin.

I think just the exact opposite on this

meeting in Alaska.

Do you agree or disagree?

Oh, I absolutely agree with you.

Two responses.

First of all, Joe Biden met with the Chinese in Alaska.

No one said this stuff.

I got

the swirly summit because they humiliated us so bad, it was like they gave us a swirly.

You think you know when you put your head in the toilet bowl.

They called us out for Black Lives Matter and racial disparities, and they just used all the leftist woke talking points to dunk on Joe Biden.

And Tony Blinken just sat there and took it.

And it was just so humiliating.

So they have no business to say anything about that.

But Trump has been so tough on Russia, this is just one of my bailiwicks, is that he proactively sold weapons to Ukraine before the Russian invasion.

He took out all these Wagner troops in Syria.

He made it so it was difficult for Putin to build out the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

He was much tougher on Russia than any Democrat or any other Republican would have been.

And that's why they called him a Russian plant.

So

how locked into the stuff that is coming out today of RussiaGate?

Is it locked into the lawfare that was going in on Donald Trump?

And when do we start seeing those prosecutions coming?

Yeah, we have to start seeing the prosecutions.

And

this is why I wrote Breaking the Law was to try to get some energy.

First of all, the citizenry needs to get engaged here.

They need to understand that we need to hold our elected leaders accountable.

And one thing I learned from the first Trump administration, Glenn, I'm sure the same way, we need to stay on a war footing.

We cannot let our guard down.

We cannot waste a minute.

I think Trump understands that now.

We cannot act like we've already achieved victory.

We haven't.

This is an ongoing battle, and it is the single greatest threat to the MAGA coalition right now, is lawfare.

But it starts with holding the Russia collision hoaxers accountable, because there's not just two tiers of justice in this country.

There's three tiers.

There's the Donald Trump tier, where if you're Trump or his allies, you get harassed for victimless crimes, and they invent new laws in order to try to take you out.

There's the tier for the rest of us.

And then there's this tier where Comey and Clapper and

Deep State Brennan are in, where not only are you above the law, but you get book deals and contributorships on cable news to break the law.

You're actually paid to break the law.

And that is absolutely unacceptable.

And until those heads roll, then the base is not going to be happy.

So

what does the average person do?

Because I honestly,

and

I don't know if you feel this this way, Alex, but I feel at times that

I just don't know what more I can do.

We've talked about it, we've talked about it, we've talked about it, we've elected the right people,

and it just doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

And the frustration is going towards the Trump administration too many times when it should be going to the

deep state, the justice,

honestly, the senate for not putting through his nominees for

justice people.

So what is it that people can do?

So the main problem of the lawfare issue that I've been tackling with breaking the law is that there are just too many liberals on the bench.

So we have to win every single election.

And then when the conservatives are there, we as the constituents have to demand that our elected leaders work as hard as they can to be the most conservative that they can and try to preserve our Constitution and our basic equal justice under the law.

But this does feel like this is the last chance here that we've got to see some people held to account for Russia Gate and Lawfare as the scandal continues to blow up.

Or else I do think a lot of those people who joined the Trump coalition because they wanted change, they wanted to see accountability, I think they could leave.

So it really is the stakes are that high.

You framed it up well.

But I do think as citizens, there's a lot we can do in terms of our vote and also the way we interact with our elected leaders to demand more from them because it feels like there's a culture change.

Now we've got to see the results.

Unfortunately, sometimes you got to wait because these things take a while.

These investigations take a long time.

But

let's be upbeat for now.

And I got a feeling we're going to get some good news here.

Do you think the culture change is real and lasting?

I hope so.

He's picking the right guys.

I mean, Cash and Dan, I mean, I trust those guys.

And

it feels like Pam got totally spooked by the Epstein screw-up, which is hopefully good.

I mean, Tulsi Gabbard, I mean, these people, I don't think they're fearful of taking out the trash in Washington.

So they haven't been there that long.

So I'm kind of optimistic in a way, but I guess maybe I run optimistic.

And I certainly would not correct you if you're saying you're pessimistic now.

But being pessimistic.

and then opting out of the system

just means we're going to cede more territory to them.

Oh, yeah.

It's deadly.

We cannot opt out.

We can't.

We can't.

Alex, thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Best of luck with your books.

It's called Breaking the Law.

You can find it wherever you get your books, exposing the weaponization of America's legal system against Donald Trump.

It was released last week.

So get it wherever you can.

Breaking the Law, again by Alex Marlowe Alex, thank you for being on the program.

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welcome to the uh program uh we were just talking about uh you know has culture actually changed uh something i asked alex in the interview um

And I think you're starting to see it.

Where is the school here in Texas that became Legacy High School?

It was Lee High School, Robert E.

Lee.

And they switched it.

And now they're switching back from Legacy to Lee.

Yeah, that's an interesting change.

Yeah.

I think,

you know, like we talked about the Redskins.

Yeah.

Which, to me, they're still the Washington Redskins.

They always overchanged.

You know,

I'm going to be that guy.

I'm going to be the 85-year-old on my porch going, sell sell the Redskins.

That's me.

I don't care.

Me too.

But

the Redskins was a really good name.

It was meant to honor a person who was literally there.

He was the coach of the team at the time.

It's so obvious what they meant to do was to honor this guy.

And he was a Native American.

You know, at the time when no Native Americans were celebrated or anything else, he was the coach of the Redskins.

Yeah.

Like, and so, and I think like changing names and stuff is really bad.

It's a bad thing to go down.

We've talked about this.

How many schools are named Woodrow Wilson High School?

Oh, I know, I know.

And he is way worse than some of the people they've changed names of.

Oh, he was horrible.

I mean, they're toppling statues of Ben freaking Franklin and Thomas Jefferson.

So we know how bad that can be.

Where are you on like changing them back?

If you're going to change it back like...

To the Redskins, I'm 100% behind that.

If you're changing it back to Robert E.

Lee, like Lee is not a good figure to me.

I know some of you have to be able to do it.

I would say the same thing thing as I would on Woodrow Wilson.

And if anybody has any, has spent five minutes with me on the show, you know I hate Woodrow Wilson.

I would leave it, Woodrow Wilson.

I would leave it.

Leave it.

If you change it.

If you change and go back.

Yeah, because I disagree with that movement of erasing history.

I agree with you.

I believe bad history has to be taught as well.

So, yeah, go back and change it to Woodrow Wilson High School.

Go back and change it to Robert E.

Lee.

There's some line there, though, right?

If somebody, if some, some small town named their, you know, Himmler High, you wouldn't be like, ah, yeah, let's go back to Himmler High.

I mean, I don't, I don't think.

Well, there wasn't a Himmler High.

I agree with you.

There wasn't, but there have been some names.

Yeah.

What I'm saying is there is a line.

Yeah, I'm trying to remember the guy that everybody lionizes.

You know, a lot of people lionize in the South, who is the beginning of the Klan.

Really bad guy.

I can't remember.

Yeah.

Like, I don't want to

say that.

I don't want to him.

Because, you know, naming something after someone is different than even a statue to me.

Like, a statue is,

you know, I think it can just kind of tell you, hey, here's a moment.

This is what people really thought at this time.

And that's something that should be remembered in the context, I think, of studying history rather than like a lionizing, hey, this is what we're naming it after.

That being said.

You know, I go to, you get on streets all the time.

They're named after people.

You don't even notice it.

So I don't think it necessarily matters at all.

Like, I always feel that like the whole

statue/slash naming controversy is a sign of how much better the world is than it used to be.

Like, we used to be like, hey,

we're all going to die next week at 31 years old.

And now we're like, wait, there's a statue with a guy's name I don't like.

Like, those are two very different problems.

Yeah, I agree.

And it's a sign that

life is so good.

We have to find something.

We have to find something to bother us.

To worry about.

Yeah, to worry about.

It's the Matrix.

It's exactly the what they what happened in the matrix did you see that study again came out 30 chance we're in the matrix what does that mean

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They don't even know they're in a simulation.

I know.

And it's what's weird is those scientists are probably the ones who are the most virulent about God.

There's no God.

Yes.

But we're in the Matrix.

What?

There is no God.

There is only Keanu Reeves.

Apparently.

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