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Speaker 2 We have a lot on today's podcast. Some of the highlights on this particular highlight podcast.
James Comer, he is a representative congressman out of Kentucky.

Speaker 2 He is part of the group that is now subpoena, has the subpoena power and has subpoenaed Hillary Clinton and also Bill Clinton to come talk about Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 2 It's a very fascinating experiment that we're seeing.

Speaker 2 Also, a report from Just the News talking about Schiff's potential illegal, immoral, and what the whistleblower said was treasonous to reveal this classified information on the House floor dating back to 2017.

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Speaker 2 Representative James Comer,

Speaker 2 he is from Kentucky.

Speaker 2 He is currently the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability. And

Speaker 2 the House Oversight Committee has subpoenaed now both Hillary and Bill Clinton for testimony on Jeffrey Epstein. And me thinks this might have been a setup the whole time, but

Speaker 2 I'm probably wrong on that because it's brilliant. It got everybody on the right or on the left saying,

Speaker 2 we're we're going to subpoena it. Okay, well, let's start with Bill and Hillary Clinton, and they've issued the subpoenas, and let's see where this goes now.
James Comer is with us now. Hello, James.

Speaker 2 How are you, sir?

Speaker 3 I'm well. Thanks for having me on.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So do I have this pretty much

Speaker 2 anything to confirm or deny on this theory of mine that this is going to work out unfortunately or an unfortunate way with the Democrats?

Speaker 3 Well, you know, the Democrats were, you know, they have Trump derangement syndrome and everything's about Donald Trump, and they had been signaling for days in an oversight committee hearing that they were going to make a motion to subpoena the Epstein files.

Speaker 3 Scott Perry from Pennsylvania, good member on the oversight committee, good Republican,

Speaker 3 when they made that emotion, he amended it to include subpoenas for six former attorneys general, Republican and Democrat, as well as Bill and Hillary Clinton. And they voted for it.

Speaker 3 And the significance of them voting for that amendment, and it passed, of course, in a bipartisan manner, is that if you normally send a former president a subpoena, the odds of that subpoena ever coming to fruition would be slim.

Speaker 3 But in this case, Glenn, they voted in a bipartisan manner, Republicans and Democrats,

Speaker 3 to subpoena. both Bill and Hillary Clinton.
That carries weight in court, and everyone in America wants to know what was going on at Epstein Island.

Speaker 3 It's not just a Democrat issue or a Republican issue. Democrats want to know because they hope and pray Donald Trump had something, you know, some

Speaker 3 liability there.

Speaker 3 But Republicans want to know, too, because we believe there was a cover-up. We believe the government knew more than what's been out there.
We believe there's probably some kind of list somewhere. So

Speaker 3 I think that what happened in the Oversight Committee is going to lead us to being able to ask Bill and Hillary Clinton Clinton questions for the first time ever.

Speaker 2 Okay, so let me ask you, just to play devil's advocate and to be fair,

Speaker 2 are there plans to subpoena any Republicans or friends and associates of Republicans or friends of Donald Trump?

Speaker 3 Well, I don't guess Bill Barr is his friend, but he was one of the attorneys general.

Speaker 3 There are two Republican AGs that were on the list, and we'll go wherever the investigation leads. Look,

Speaker 3 this is not a partisan issue.

Speaker 3 Republicans are equally as curious and interested in what was going on in Epstein Island. I've been in Kentucky for two weeks now.
My son plays baseball.

Speaker 3 I go to baseball fields all over the state watching him. And people come up to me.
These aren't political people. And they know

Speaker 3 that I've issued the subpoenas. I subpoenaed Pam Bondi for the Epstein files.
And I don't think that's gotten a lot of press and probably didn't make many friends with the administration.

Speaker 3 But people want to know. And that's what people are coming up to all of my colleagues, not just the Freedom Caucus guys and the ones that are on TV all the time, just the normal, moderate Republicans.

Speaker 3 This is what people want to know. I mean, they're curious about Epstein and we're serious about it as well.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm glad to hear that because I've never seen anything like it. This story is not going away.
I mean, it just has to be. You have to lance this, Boyle, and just let the

Speaker 2 drain it and let it be what it is.

Speaker 2 Based on what you've seen so far, do you believe the Clintons had knowledge of the criminal activities on the island?

Speaker 3 Well, I believe that the Clintons were very close with Epstein.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 we know that Clinton went there a few times. I don't know if he went as many times as

Speaker 3 some conservative outlets have reported, but he may have, may have gone more. I don't know, but we're going to find find out.
And

Speaker 3 this is a serious thing. You have two people that were charged, both Epstein and Maxwell.

Speaker 3 Was the government involved?

Speaker 3 Was the government spying on people that were there? Was the government turning a blind eye to the

Speaker 3 sex trafficking of underage girls? I mean, there are so many questions that every American has.

Speaker 3 And I think the fact that Clinton was there so many times, Maxwell was at Bill and Hillary at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. So obviously

Speaker 3 the Clinton thought a lot of Maxwell. So, you know, we just have questions.
I'm not trying to embarrass the president or anything. We'll have to have every I dotted and T crossed if we get him in.

Speaker 3 But normally

Speaker 3 the prospect of getting a former president in to a congressional

Speaker 3 committee deposition is slim to none. There have been two this last century that were subpoenaed by Congress,

Speaker 3 and Trump was one of them. Neither made it to Congress.
But what makes this different is the Democrats voted for this too.

Speaker 3 And I think they got in trouble with Hakeem Jeffries and probably the Clintons when the committee was over because they were so focused on just subpoenaing

Speaker 3 the Epstein files,

Speaker 3 they left their guard down for the Clintons. And that's what the Democrats have always done.
They've always played defense for the Clintons and the Bidens and all the corrupt deep state.

Speaker 3 But, you know, I'm hopeful that this bipartisan vote will help us in court because this subpoena will go to court, make no mistake about it. And hopefully we've got good attorneys.

Speaker 3 Our attorneys that represent us in court are through Mike Johnson's office. So hopefully

Speaker 3 they'll do a good job.

Speaker 2 Do you have any concerns about the potential interference or special treatment of Ghislaine Maxwell after she's meeting with Todd Blanche, and then she gets this unusual prison transfer.

Speaker 2 Are you guys going to investigate that? Are you concerned about that?

Speaker 3 Well, we're always interested in what's going on.

Speaker 3 We weren't aware that he was going to meet with her or that she was going to be transferred.

Speaker 3 And remember, August the 11th was the date I was supposed to take the committee down to depose Maxwell, which was Monday. But what happened is

Speaker 3 last week, her attorneys sent a letter

Speaker 3 me saying that

Speaker 3 she wanted to wait until the Supreme Court ruled on her appeal and which is supposed to be in September and if we went in there before September before the Supreme Court ruled on her appeal she was just going to plead the fifth so you know we're we're that's a reasonable request we're gonna hope that the Supreme Court rules on her appeal and then then our committee's going down there and and deposing her.

Speaker 3 I mean, we've got, you know, I've got Marjorie Taylor Greene and Anna Paulina Luna and Byron Donalds. Everybody's interested in this and everybody wants to participate in it.

Speaker 2 Let me change the subject on a couple of things. Yesterday, I saw this amazing video of the House being called to order and called into session.

Speaker 2 They call it into session, they have prayer, they do the Pledge of Allegiance, and then they dismiss. And this is all being done so

Speaker 2 they don't have to, or that it won't allow the president to do appointments when Congress is not in session because they're saying, no, we're still in session every day, but you're not really in session.

Speaker 2 Why are the Republicans doing this?

Speaker 2 Why not just vote on the people?

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 3 The confirmations are in the Senate, and I don't know. I read that too, and I wasn't aware of that.

Speaker 3 I think in the past, they've always done that in August when we were out traveling our district. So I really don't know.
That's a good question.

Speaker 3 If Republicans are doing anything to

Speaker 3 slow down Trump's confirmation, then shame on the Republicans. And we need you Republicans because we've got to get these guys confirmed.
It's already too late.

Speaker 2 Do you think home rule has a chance of being pulled back in 30 days for D.C.? I do.

Speaker 3 I do. Look, I mean, people are scared in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 3 It's a bad bad place. And if you look out the window, it doesn't matter what part of town.
You've got all these teenage boys running around breaking stuff at 2 a.m., 3 a.m.

Speaker 3 And there's nothing being done about it. And the way the D.C.
laws are,

Speaker 3 they're not going to prosecute. young people for anything.
These young people know it, so there are no consequences to their actions. You've got a lawless town right now.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well, I hope that that actually happens happens and they pull this back because this is a failed experiment.

Speaker 2 It is.

Speaker 2 You've hinted at the possible run of

Speaker 2 being the governor of Kentucky in 27.

Speaker 2 Care to comment on where you are on that decision?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's two years away. We've had, unfortunately, for the last 55 years in Kentucky, as Republican as Kentucky has been, we've had a Democrat governor 47 out of the last 55 years.

Speaker 3 This governor now,

Speaker 3 Andy Bashir, he's term limited. He can't run again.
I'm getting a lot of encouragement to run. I was commissioner of agriculture before I came to Congress at the statewide elected office.

Speaker 3 And it's something that

Speaker 3 I'm seriously considering. I obviously, I believe in term limits, so I never planned on staying in Congress very long.
I moved up quick.

Speaker 3 I was the top Republican on the Oversight Committee after three and a half years. So I think I've proven myself and

Speaker 3 I love Kentucky. So it's something I want to do, but we're still about a year away from making a decision.

Speaker 2 Okay. Sounds great.
Congressman, thank you so much. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 Thanks for all your hard work. Appreciate it.
James Comer, which,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 I should have asked him, has he ever considered changing his name? Because it's so close to James Comey.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I mean, are you committed to Comer? Are you? I mean,

Speaker 2 that would have been a very, you know,

Speaker 2 very good question.

Speaker 2 Yeah, very pressing question.

Speaker 2 James Comer, isn't he the bad guy? Oh, no, that's Comey. James Comey.

Speaker 2 I just want to point that out. I'm sure he struggles with this decision on a day-to-day basis.
Right?

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 I mean, your wife kind of struggled with that for a while, right? My wife's. Lisa Page

Speaker 2 is her name.

Speaker 2 And Lisa Page, Lisa Page. Oh, wasn't she the one with, oh, gosh, what was his name? I just had it.

Speaker 2 Gosh, everyone's yelling at the radios right now. I can't think of the guy's name, but the two that had Peter Strzz.
Peter Strzz. Peter Strzok, thank you.

Speaker 2 Part of the Russia Gate scandal, right?

Speaker 2 There's so many quote-unquote scandals. No, they were big.
They were instrumental in that. Yeah.
And as we're seeing, more instrumental than we thought. Yeah.
Their names

Speaker 2 keep coming up. Yeah.
But that's Lisa Page. Different spelling, but yes.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Is it, though? Really? Yes.
Just like Comer and Comey are a different spelling. There's a different spelling there.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Oh, so it's particularly disturbing because she was having an affair. So like there was like story after story.
It was like, Lisa Page in a fair.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, wait a minute, that's a little, can we not? I mean.

Speaker 2 Truth has to be spoken.

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Speaker 2 So John Solomon broke some news yesterday on justthenews.com, which if you don't check that every day, you should.

Speaker 2 He is a real,

Speaker 2 God's honest

Speaker 2 journalist, an investigative journalist. He's worked for the Washington Post until he wasn't welcome there.
He worked for the

Speaker 2 I think he worked for the New York Times, but definitely the Wall Street Journal until he wasn't welcome there. And he was like, you know what? I'm just going to have to, I speak my mind.

Speaker 2 I let the chips fall where they may. And so he started his own thing, and it's really, really good.
But he has been breaking a lot of the stories

Speaker 2 that are coming about RussiaGate.

Speaker 2 Listen to this story.

Speaker 2 A career intelligence officer who worked for the Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee for more than a decade repeatedly warned the FBI beginning in 2017 that then Representative Adam Schiff had approved leaking classified information to smear Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 The FBI 302 interview, reports obtained by Just the News, state the intelligence staffer, a Democrat by party affiliation, who described himself as a friend to both Schiff and now California senator and former Republican House intelligence chairman Devin Nunes, considered the classified leaking to be unethical, illegal, and treasonous, but was told not to worry about it because Schiff believed he would be spared prosecution under the Constitution Speech and Debate Clause.

Speaker 2 So do you know what that clause is? It's really an amazing clause. You know what it is?

Speaker 2 This is the one where they can, you know, where Harry Reid could go on and say, hey, Mitt Romney lied about not paying his taxes. Yeah, he never paid his taxes.

Speaker 2 He can't say that without Mitt Romney being able to sue him. Right.

Speaker 2 If it's not true, you can sue him. Unless you say it on the floor of the House or the Senate.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 then it's free speech that they have that you don't even have.

Speaker 2 They're

Speaker 2 extra free. Yeah, they're extra free.
They can say whatever they want and they can't get sued by it. So he is

Speaker 2 leaking this information, but he's leaking it on the floor of the House. And that way he can say, I'm covered by the Constitution.
Now, Now, he is such a dirtbag. It's

Speaker 2 just a dirtbag.

Speaker 2 Okay, so this whistleblower, again, a Democrat by registration,

Speaker 2 he has been blowing the whistle on Adam Schiff and no one would listen to him.

Speaker 2 DOJ officials, according to Just the News, showed little interest in pursuing Schiff when the allegations were brought to them years ago, citing the very same excuse the lawmaker had offered.

Speaker 2 Isn't that interesting? So he says, I'm covered by this. And the DOJ says, no, no, no, he's covered by this.

Speaker 2 In his most recent interview with the Bureau in 2023, the whistleblower, whose name is redacted, told agents from the FBI's St. Louis office that

Speaker 2 he personally attended a meeting at which

Speaker 2 Schiff authorized leaking classified information. Quote, when working in this capacity, redacted staffer's name, was called to an all-staff meeting by Schiff.

Speaker 2 In In this meeting, Schiff stated the group

Speaker 2 would leak classified information which was derogatory to the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
Schiff stated the information would be used to indict President Trump.

Speaker 2 The whistleblower told investigations that he stated this would be illegal.

Speaker 2 And upon hearing his concerns, unnamed members of the meeting reassured him they would not be caught leaking classified information.

Speaker 2 The staffer made similar claims to agents in the FBI's Washington field office as early as 2017, shortly after Trump took office in his first term.

Speaker 2 Officials also said some of the DOJ officials who declined to prosecute a rash of classified leaks during the Russian Gate affair remain employed and in positions of power, a matter that may be of interest to lawmakers in Congress.

Speaker 2 This thing is so deep and so nasty. I mean,

Speaker 2 if we don't get the people like Adam Schiff, this will happen.

Speaker 2 If they get away with it, you may, as a Democrat, you may be fine.

Speaker 2 Donald Trump, he's a... You cannot allow them to get away with leaking classified information to destroy another person.

Speaker 2 Okay? They knew these were lies, but they needed it to get out, and it was classified. No one was supposed to know that.
So here, a congressman and now a senator, a U.S.

Speaker 2 senator said, don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 You're not going to get caught. Nobody's going to pay for this.
If they do that and they set this precedent and they do get away with it, what

Speaker 2 is the regulating rule of law when they want to do it to somebody else? And maybe it's somebody you like.

Speaker 2 What is the regulating rule of law when the Republicans go, oh, well, you're going to play that way? Well, we can do that too.

Speaker 2 This is where critical thinking comes in.

Speaker 2 This is what Americans are missing right now.

Speaker 2 And it's not that we're not capable of it. It's that we're all living in our lizard brains.
We're all so freaked out by... Nazi! Nazi! It's a Nazi!

Speaker 2 We're so freaked out by the names that we've all called each other.

Speaker 2 We no longer can stop and think.

Speaker 2 The left

Speaker 2 is now

Speaker 2 moving towards no rule of law.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 Betto is now saying to the uber-uber left,

Speaker 2 rules don't matter at all.

Speaker 2 It doesn't matter. We'll do whatever it takes to stop them and win next time.
Well, to me, that doesn't sound like they're going to do anything new,

Speaker 2 except that's their message to people.

Speaker 2 That's not good.

Speaker 2 Unethical, illegal, and treasonous.

Speaker 2 From somebody who describes Adam Schiff as a friend,

Speaker 2 And nobody seemed to care.

Speaker 2 The stakes just keep getting higher and higher and higher on this particular story.

Speaker 2 And I'm wondering, I mean,

Speaker 2 one thing that is not trending, let me see if I can find the trends here.

Speaker 2 Okay, on Google Trends, right now what's trending on Google Trends is martial law.

Speaker 2 Martial law in Washington, D.C. Well,

Speaker 2 that's not what's happening in Washington, D.C. That's not martial law.

Speaker 2 It is the president's right because

Speaker 2 the District of Columbia is supposed to be a federal district, and it's out of control. What was the stats on a thousand times? What was it?

Speaker 2 I have that here for you. Give me one second.
I'll pull it up. Some crazy amount, more dangerous than Philadelphia.
I don't go walk the streets of Philadelphia at night. I don't send my kids.

Speaker 2 Hey, go get a gallon of milk

Speaker 2 down the street. What are the stats? Do you have it? I do.

Speaker 2 It's just loading as we speak. Okay.
This is from, and it's from the, this is from the Atlantic.

Speaker 2 D.C.'s homicide rate in 2024, roughly 26.4 homicides for every 100,000 residents, is lower than both the 2023 and its peak in the 90s.

Speaker 2 But according to data compiled by the Council of Criminal Justice, it's still nearly seven times higher than New York City's rate, which is 3.8 per 100,000.

Speaker 2 D.C.'s rate is also worse than that of Philadelphia, Atlanta, and even Chicago.

Speaker 2 In fact, it's closer to that of infamously crime-ridden cities like Memphis and Detroit than it is to some other important

Speaker 2 city areas. The problem looks even worse in the most violence-plagued parts of the city.

Speaker 2 As I found in my report 2023, 57% of the city's homicides took place in Wards 7 and 8, the city's poorest, and the largest percentage of black residents. In fact, just 10 blocks of D.C.

Speaker 2 were home to 14% of all homicides. Can you imagine what that area must be? 14% of an entire city's

Speaker 2 homes. Everybody knows somebody that has been killed.

Speaker 2 And that area has to be killed.

Speaker 2 It has to be.

Speaker 2 As in many cities, violence is also hyper-concentrated among tight social networks.

Speaker 2 According to a 2021 report, National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform, any given city, about 500 people are responsible for 60 to 70% of all gun violence in the city.

Speaker 2 And this is from an article that's saying, this is from, you know, I mean, it's the Atlantic.

Speaker 2 It's more of a left-leaning situation saying, hey, guys, like, sure, we can all say it's down, but are we communicating the real problem here?

Speaker 2 Because, I mean, look, from a political perspective, Trump is going to win here.

Speaker 2 Forget that, for example,

Speaker 2 all the sideline stuff that everyone's talking about.

Speaker 2 When you just boil it down to politics, which is what a lot of these people are thinking about, if you are stuck on the side of the debate that says, actually, D.C.

Speaker 2 is Disneyland, you're going to lose.

Speaker 2 And you're going to lose in a city that has voted for you time and time and time again

Speaker 2 because

Speaker 2 somebody's making the killing stop.

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, what did they say about Mussolini? Why was Mussolini's?

Speaker 2 I remember, was it your uncle? My let's be very careful. My wife's uncle.
Okay. Okay, or great uncle, I think.

Speaker 2 He was born here in America, but the family,

Speaker 2 they lived in

Speaker 2 Italy. And when Mussolini took over and the war started, they were afraid the entire family would be wiped out.
So he was an American citizen because he was born during a vacation in New York City. So

Speaker 2 they sent him all by himself to America. He didn't have a job or anything, so he just joined the military and he started fighting on our side.
And

Speaker 2 we're talking, and nobody in the family had,

Speaker 2 nobody knew his war record. No one.
No one.

Speaker 2 And we're sitting at a wedding and it's just the two of us. And I'm like, so Uncle Leo, how'd you get here? Tell me your story.
And he was like, let me tell you my story.

Speaker 2 And he starts in telling a story. And I said, so you...

Speaker 2 Do you remember Mussolini at the time? Mussolini was a good man. And I'm like, okay, can you keep your voice down on that one? I mean, he's not my uncle.
He is not my uncle.

Speaker 2 My wife's uncle is my wife's uncle, which I'm questioning now my wife and my relationship there said that. Anyway,

Speaker 2 and I said, okay, keep your voice down. What do you mean by that? And he said, at first, before he joined with the Nazis, he said our country was so out of control.

Speaker 2 And he made, quote, you've you've heard this before, he made the trains run on time.

Speaker 2 What he was saying was, he brought order to a very disordered society. It was not functioning.
Okay. And what Mussolini did at first was, I'm just going to

Speaker 2 bring some law and order here.

Speaker 2 This is why the progressive left had an argument with some at the very beginning, saying, this is the new wave of the future it will make your country better fascism was their argument at the beginning

Speaker 2 mussolini and hitler you do you know why you know the the swastika if you flip it around it's actually an american native and a indian um symbol of peace did you know that yes i did i did know that yeah so if you but if you flip it around then it becomes the nazi swastika but that's not all

Speaker 2 in when when you you look at a Native American, you will always know that it's Native American or Indian because the bottom of the, I don't know what you call it, the swastika, is flat. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 2 What Hitler did is he pitched it up 45 degrees. Okay? So he moved that symbol that was just like a square and he put it instead on the, on like a corner of the square.
So it's now pitched up.

Speaker 2 Does it make sense? You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 Do you know why he did that? No.

Speaker 2 Because this is a system

Speaker 2 of progress.

Speaker 2 We are progressives. We are moving and racing towards the future.

Speaker 2 So any of this crap that this was, you know, conservative. No, no, no, no, it wasn't.
No, it wasn't. This is all progressive socialist nonsense and dangerous.

Speaker 2 But back to the story of what Trump is doing. Trump is using the Constitution and he is doing it within the rule of law.

Speaker 2 He has 30 days and then Congress has to either revoke home rule or it goes back or they can extend it for another 30 days, but Congress has to do it.

Speaker 2 So he's not becoming a fascist or a dictator or anything else. This is not martial law.
This is all within the law.

Speaker 2 But if he makes that change in those two districts where everybody knows somebody who has been murdered and most likely kids that have been murdered and that goes down and they feel safe on their streets and their kids are not they're not saying to the kids just don't fall in with that gang

Speaker 2 that will change people will they may still vote the same way because they don't get it maybe but they will not be on board with dismissing i can guarantee you they're not on board with dismissing this as oh no Washington, D.C.

Speaker 2 is a safe city. Everything the media is doing right now, everything the Democrats are doing by trying to excuse this and try to make everybody, the people who are living it,

Speaker 2 know it's a lie first.

Speaker 2 And they've got to be looking at those people going, wait a minute, wait a minute. I thought you were on our side.
I thought you were trying to protect us. You're not.

Speaker 2 You're streaming the best of the Glen Beck program, and you can find full episodes wherever you download podcasts. Welcome to the Glen Beck program.

Speaker 2 So I posted on X, I think, or maybe it was Instagram over the weekend. Somebody sent some pictures of me from my childhood, and one of them was me from 1977, the magic show.

Speaker 2 And they brought it to life with AI, and

Speaker 2 it's stunning. It's stunning.
And I posted it, and I said, this is a very old picture of me.

Speaker 2 You know, and I told the Johnny Carson thing, et cetera, et cetera. But I just thought people would know.
I mean, because you can see the folds and the creases in the picture.

Speaker 2 I just just thought people would know that that was AI. No, no, they didn't.
They didn't. Yeah, it was interesting because your wording, too, on the post said this picture I sent in

Speaker 2 to Jefferson Hartson or something like that, right? So I would have sent the film back. It would have been film back then.
I would have said that. I said, yeah, I sent this film in.
Right, this movie.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this movie, yeah. Right.
And you said picture. And when I saw it, I was like, wow.
I mean, like that. But I had seen

Speaker 2 other AI versions of this where they take a photo and it moves around. But it is getting incredible.
I mean, that

Speaker 2 absolutely looks

Speaker 2 real. Looks real.

Speaker 2 Here I am. If you're watching on the Blaze TV, let me show you.
This is a picture of me on my first birthday

Speaker 2 and my birthday cake. Now, this photo has been, you know, hung on a wall of our house forever.
But I've never seen a video of me. Eating weird.
It's weird.

Speaker 2 And so I was looking at this and I was thinking, I don't remember the sound of my mother's voice anymore.

Speaker 2 I was, you know, 13 or 14 when she died. And

Speaker 2 I remember when I couldn't remember her voice. I remember when I'm like, oh my gosh, I don't remember what she sounded like anymore.
And it took me about 10 years and it was really

Speaker 2 horrible. That's a really tough thing.

Speaker 2 And I thought, my gosh, if I had an old tape of her, which I don't think I do, if I had an old tape of her, I could match that to a picture of her and make her talk, and it would be weird.

Speaker 2 Weird, because it's not her. It's not her.
It's soulless. Okay.

Speaker 2 Here's another one. 1976.
This is, I was in the Rose Bowl parade marching for the bicentennial.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 there's no video of that unless you go to CBS, I think, who covered that parade and looked it up. But that's me.

Speaker 2 I'm 12.

Speaker 2 Here's me in 1984. I was doing something with the AMC movie channel,

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 it's crazy. It looks like film.

Speaker 2 And so there's these reactions that came out. Elon Musk said, for most people, the best use of

Speaker 2 Grok app is turning old photos into video, seeing old friends and family members come to life.

Speaker 2 And then somebody said, these are not coming to life. The animation of pictures have no bearing on reality.

Speaker 2 It's the interpretation of a soulless AI that has no idea what your family member was actually like. Absolutely true.

Speaker 2 What? You don't want a bunch of Twitter posts and algorithms to pretend to be your grandma, spit in the face of God,

Speaker 2 but it's so cool in hip.

Speaker 2 I think it's spit in the face of God. I don't think it's spitting in the face of God.
I think it is if you go, that's my mother.

Speaker 2 And remember, this we are now entering the time of from 1990. When did we first meet? 97?

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 right around the time.

Speaker 2 Right around the time that Ray Kurzweil came out with his book that I had been reading, and it was the age of spiritual machines. And I said,

Speaker 2 they are going to claim consciousness. They're going to claim that they're human.

Speaker 2 They are, you're not going to be able to tell the difference. They are going to bring our dead relatives, quote, back to life, all of these things.
We're there.

Speaker 2 We're there.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, we just saw an interview with Jim Acosta and a shooting victim. That was so bad.
Which was absolutely horrid.

Speaker 2 But that was, I mean, and that seems like, I don't know, we're learning all these lines as we go, right?

Speaker 2 This is something that we're all viewing in real time and figuring out what is the appropriate line.

Speaker 2 Like, to me, quite clearly, you doing the magic trick and the kid coming back to life from the shooting to be interviewed by a different journalist, totally different.

Speaker 2 And I can see the bright line in between them. Yeah, I can too.
You know, you're just saying, like, it's a cool little thing. Like, oh, cool.

Speaker 2 I'd love to see a picture of my mother moving. I'd love to see that.

Speaker 2 But it's not my mom, and I'm very, very clear about that. Like, that's closer to the line to me.

Speaker 2 It's a little bit more.

Speaker 2 Because there's nothing unethical about it. Like, Jim Acosta is way over the line because he's supposedly a journalist doing something obviously unethical using a dead shot

Speaker 2 and you see his picture. Right.
Like he is a graphic. He spits out a picture of him.
It's,

Speaker 2 and I'm being careful here with what, with the way I'm phrasing this, but it's slightly less

Speaker 2 horrible to me

Speaker 2 for

Speaker 2 the parents of this child to

Speaker 2 want to

Speaker 2 darkly see

Speaker 2 their child

Speaker 2 moving around as they would be.

Speaker 2 That's why seances did so well. Right, I think that's the thing.
Well,

Speaker 2 Pet Cemetery.

Speaker 2 I was thinking of pet cemetery. Okay, all right.
We can get that.

Speaker 2 You can understand Herman Munster at Pet Cemetery. No, he was the guy that lived next door, right?

Speaker 2 I don't remember. All I remember is

Speaker 2 you can understand

Speaker 2 the thought of like, God, my child died in this terrible thing. Yeah.
And I just, what would he have been like today? Like, I can understand as a parent

Speaker 2 wanting that. It's not a great idea.

Speaker 2 Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 You know why Shelly, you know why Shelley wrote that? No.

Speaker 2 What was her name?

Speaker 2 Shelley Lawrence.

Speaker 2 Mary Shelley.

Speaker 2 Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein. It's a long story.
It involved a contest between these writers.

Speaker 2 But she had been seeing electricity where they had been shooting electricity into dead frogs and it would make their legs move. Right.
Okay.

Speaker 2 And so she looked at that and she was like, and I think she had just had a child die or somebody, but she was going through the mental anguish of death. Okay.

Speaker 2 And then she saw this and she thought, oh,

Speaker 2 what would it be like if we could bring the dead back?

Speaker 2 And that's kind of the

Speaker 2 germ, as I understand it, of Frankenstein. Well, that's what we're we're going through right now.

Speaker 2 Okay. Except the physical body is not there.
Right. I mean, and that's probably

Speaker 2 not that far away. Somebody will do

Speaker 2 something like that. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 I mean, soon.

Speaker 2 The robotics, you can just, you could make it look like somebody. I mean, we're five to ten years away.
from somebody, from a robot looking exactly like me, speaking like me, me, but not being me.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You know, not, not the, and not the Walt Disney, let me kind of walk across this floor and sit down.
You know, not the, an evening with the president, but an actual

Speaker 2 AI robot.

Speaker 2 And again,

Speaker 2 some of this, I think part of why the Jim Acosta thing was so poorly received by not even just the right, but everybody, taking a child shooting victim, bringing him back to life as an adult, and then having him terribly talk about gun control in an interview.

Speaker 2 Part of it's the journalistic thing. Part of it is just how tasteless it seems.
Yeah, I mean, I would have a problem. I mean, I think we're pretty, you know,

Speaker 2 it didn't really happen in my lifetime.

Speaker 2 You know, John F. Kennedy.
It would be like bringing John F. Kennedy back to talk about gun control.
Or Abraham Lincoln and have him talk about gun control. That would just be so grotesque.

Speaker 2 It would be grotesque, but also way better than that.

Speaker 2 Like, seriously, like,

Speaker 2 bringing back JFK, like, you'd be like, oh, you'd roll your eyes. But, like, bringing back

Speaker 2 a child to utilize a dead child for your political purposes. I mean, it's so, that's, that's terrible when they do it without the AI, let alone when they actually do it this way.

Speaker 2 But I think the reason why it was so poorly received is because he went so far past the line so early.

Speaker 2 Like, when, when the, the, the pictures that you posted posted are the norm and everyone's used to seeing them,

Speaker 2 people were. It was

Speaker 2 very much, you're too into this world. You're ahead of the parade

Speaker 2 on AI, certainly.

Speaker 2 So, because I, you know,

Speaker 2 I'm just starting to see these things happen. And I'm just starting to see these things look legitimate like the ones you posted.
You should see the stuff I haven't posted.

Speaker 2 If you think this is incredible, you should see the stuff that's coming.

Speaker 2 Yes, but

Speaker 2 he tried to jump so far. So far.
And it was poorly received.

Speaker 2 But as this becomes the norm, that line will start to move. Right.
And these things will get more and more common. And it's the same thing, I think, with Dave Rubin.
Oh, yeah. You know,

Speaker 2 that didn't work out well for Dave. Oh, really?

Speaker 2 No, people were like, because I, you know, and Dave was just doing it. This is, I'm going on vacation.
Why don't I just have a robot? It'll be fun. It'll be fun.

Speaker 2 He's not trying to con anybody or anything. No, not at all.
But it is so far away from being ready for prime time. It's so clearly.
You could talk to him, but it's so clear.

Speaker 2 Why, Dave, that's a very good question.

Speaker 2 And you're like, oh, I see that. Yeah.
It's still, the technology is not perfect yet, but you could see it's, we've advanced so far so fast that you can see it's right around the corner.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, the examples we've been talking about in using AI, where, you know, one of the things I use it for in real life is like you go and you go to a shelf at a Walmart and they have, you know, 47

Speaker 2 types of glue right I don't know what kind of glue I need for whatever project I'm working on wow right you're not a man I 100% admit this right like I don't know that's not my world I don't know I would have I would have said honey I don't know what glue where's the home depot what right

Speaker 2 so you're twice the man I am

Speaker 2 you take a picture of the entire thing and you type into the AI say hey I'm doing this thing

Speaker 2 I'm wood to plexiglass right like what's the best glue for that? And it tells you it's this glue. It's in the fourth row in the blue box.
Like, it tells you exactly which one. Like, you have to.

Speaker 2 That's unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable.
To me, that seems like that is a 10-year innovation of AI. Not

Speaker 2 like I feel like six weeks ago, it didn't exist. No, it didn't.
And now all of a sudden it's here and it's per it works really, really well. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And now there's this where you're bringing photos to life. That wasn't here a year ago.
We weren't doing that.

Speaker 2 Maybe it was the very beginning of it. The very beginning of it.
But like now it's super common. It's on every one of these services is doing something like it.
You can generate videos.

Speaker 2 The newest one from Gemini is not only can you create a video from a picture, you can now walk through it like it's a video game and control which way you're going, where you're looking.

Speaker 2 You can do things to the environment, like paint a wall and then walk away, come back and the wall is still painted. You are in the forest, you cut a tree down or you

Speaker 2 tie a ribbon around a tree

Speaker 2 so you can remember where you went. It will remember where those are.
So when you go out, you maybe leave the game or whatever, you can come back and those ribbons are still there.

Speaker 2 It's like creating, you know, if you go back in the day, like to Doom or one of those video games where you could walk around the first-person shooter thing, you're creating that in seconds from one of your own photos.

Speaker 2 Minecraft. Minecraft.
Imagine Minecraft. I mean,

Speaker 2 that was the beginning of this. It was Minecraft.
Yeah. Now it's like, it's real.

Speaker 2 And you could just do it and it's like available in, and you do it in seconds. And like, that seems like a 20-year innovation to me.
And it happened in weeks, it felt like.

Speaker 2 And these things keep happening.

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