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There's a lot on the plate today.

We have the story in Texas, which is really all about gerrymandering.

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Really kind of a terrifying thing, a new development here in America.

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pledges allegiance to another country?

Well, first of all, it's a violation of your oath, but let me get into the story.

Congresswoman Delia Ramirez

stood this week on foreign soil speaking in Spanish at a summit in Mexico City and she said, and I'd like to quote, I am a proud Guatemalan before I'm an American.

Now, this isn't all.

Her husband also

is in this country illegally.

That's not me saying that.

That's the Rolling Stone, which reported that a couple of years ago.

So let this sink in here for a minute.

This is a sitting member of Congress sworn to uphold the Constitution, says she's a Guatemalan before she's an American.

Meanwhile, her household, she does, defies the immigration laws that she just swore to protect and defend.

All right, this is not a gaffe.

This is not a misquote.

This is intentional, and it is happening over and over and over again.

We have people, Elon Omar, she she is a Somali before she's an American.

Those are her words.

This is not about heritage or cultural pride.

You know, you can't say you don't love the country of your ancestors.

I mean, Tanya's family is so great,

you know, because

they come from Italy.

They're Italian Americans, but they would never say they're Italian Americans.

They're Americans.

Where's your family from?

Italy.

And they're proud of that.

And I love that they have mixed that and it has become very American.

I love that.

But when you separate yourself and you are an Italian first, there is no way anybody in Tanya's family throughout history would have ever said, in fact,

her uncle Leo, I've talked about a million times, he was born here in America.

while they were on vacation.

They went back to Italy, but he was the only natural born citizen.

He was the only citizen.

When the war came, they were afraid that the entire family was going to be wiped out.

So what did he do?

He came to America.

But instead of just sitting collecting things, he's like 18 years old.

He enlisted in the U.S.

Army.

And because he had a heavy Italian accent, everybody thought, he's a spy.

And so he got the worst of the worst.

He was on one of the first boats for D-Day.

When that gate came down, he was one of the first to try to make the mad dash to the cliff.

Why?

Because he's obviously a spy.

He was proudly an American.

When you serve in Congress, when you sit on the

Committee for the Homeland Security,

You're not just representing voters.

You're representing the sovereignty of the United States of America.

You are part of the body tasked to defend our borders, its laws, and yes, its identity.

And I am sick and tired, and I won't play the game, and nor should you, that our identity is worse than anybody else's, that our identity, somehow or another, doesn't matter.

Our identity as America, we changed the world.

Now, you can be proud of that.

While also being ashamed of some of the things we did when we beat our chest,

when we went awry, when we went away from our Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, when we get away from that, we're screwed.

We screw everything up.

Well, we're doing that now.

She should be denaturalized,

deported.

Maybe.

Maybe.

That's what some members of Congress are calling for.

She certainly should be kicked off the Homeland Security Committee.

She should probably be kicked out of Congress.

You cannot have your loyalty to another country

over your loyalty to the United States of America.

I mean, when will we start taking allegiance seriously again?

When?

You know, the founders were really clear.

Let's look at this historically.

George Washington in his farewell address warned about foreign entanglements.

And we always think that that is, oh, well, we shouldn't shouldn't get involved in foreign wars.

Yes, it is.

It is.

Do you know why you have to be

a naturally born citizen of the United States to serve as president?

You can't be some Arnold Schwarzenegger.

You know, everybody's like, oh, man, I'd let Arnold Schwarzenegger be president.

I'd let Elon Musk be president.

I wouldn't.

Because they weren't born here.

Now, that is in our Constitution.

And why?

Because the founders feared that you would have an alliance that would be above the United States of America.

You would say, in Elon Musk's case, you know what?

I really am more loyal to South America or South Africa than I am the United States.

Or Arnold Schwarz, I'm

more aligned with Austria than the United States.

Neither of those guys will say that.

Neither of those guys believe that.

But we have members of Congress who say, I am more aligned and it is more the heart, the country that I have the heart for is Somalia or Guatemala over the United States.

Why are you serving?

That's what foreign entanglements, it's not just military alliances.

He wrote of the danger of foreign influence and corruption.

noting that allegiance divided is allegiance denied.

Now that's George Washington.

We all know Theodore Roosevelt.

Theodore Roosevelt didn't believe in hyphenated Americans.

There's only Americans.

There is no room, quoting him, there is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism.

Now, that is obviously not a swipe at immigrants.

It was a call to unify under one flag, one set of laws, one national destiny.

That's why we're the melting pot.

That's why we came together.

That's why we could do incredible things.

because people came and brought the best of their culture with them, but they melted and wanted to be an American.

And when dual loyalties creep into the halls of power, that's when a republic crumbles.

That's when you're over.

And it's not from without, it's from within.

And as I said,

Congresswoman Ramirez, her comments didn't happen in a vacuum.

They come at a time when Donald Trump has made immigration central to the campaign, ending birthright citizenship, ramping up ICE arrest, deporting those who break our laws, apparently except for her husband.

And what's the reaction?

Outrage.

Outrage from the same people who, you know, want our borders open, sanctuary cities, policies that blur, if not erase, the line between citizen and non-citizen.

They want that gone.

This isn't political.

It's not a political line anymore.

This is a spiritual one.

This is a moral one.

This is a constitutional line.

And now, with her own words and her own associations, she's drawn that line in the sand.

On one side is America.

On the other side is Guatemala.

And she, by her own words, made her choice, Guatemala.

Now the question is: does Congress even care?

Will Congress and the American people

choose America over Guatemala or Somalia or any other place?

Will we say it matters?

So here's what happened.

This is what I believe should absolutely happen immediately.

She needs to immediately be removed from Homeland Security or immigration-related

committees.

If you don't believe in national sovereignty, you should not be managing our national sovereignty.

There should be a full investigation into her husband's immigration status.

No one in this country, not even the spouse of the Congresswoman, should be above the law.

If Melania Trump had come here illegally, I would say exactly the same thing.

No one is above the law.

Citizenship loyalty review.

Boy, this really sounds scary.

You want a

citizenship loyalty review?

Yeah.

Yeah, we've had one in the past, and I think we should

reintroduce it.

Because that is the oath of office, the oath of allegiance.

And that has to be a binding standard.

for those who are serving.

Are you allegiant?

Do you pledge allegiance to our flag, our country, our Constitution?

And if you can't say with real full conviction, oh yeah, absolutely, of course,

that your allegiance is with the United States of America, well,

then you don't belong in government.

If you can't say, no, my loyalty is absolutely behind the Constitution of the United States of America, then you should not be in government.

And here's the biggest thing that has to happen

this one happens with us

we have to stop going oh well

that's just politics because this is not politics this is not politics this goes right directly to the soul of our nation

a line now has been crossed

and it was crossed with Elon Omar and we said nothing.

And now it's been now it's been crossed with Congresswoman Ramirez.

And she crossed two lines.

Her husband, according to Rolling Stone, isn't illegal.

So are we going to hold the line or not?

Because if we don't know where our allegiance is, then we no longer know who we are.

We no longer believe in anything anymore because America doesn't matter.

You can serve as a defender of the Constitution and our sovereignty and not believe in the Constitution or our sovereignty.

That makes no sense.

You know what that means?

That means retardation has gone airborne.

That's what that means.

That

we have become so susceptible to retardation that we can't see our own suicide.

But that's what that story is really all about.

And we have a choice.

So what are you going to do about it today?

I suggest you stand up and you let your voice be heard.

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So, Stu, how do you read this Ramirez story?

It seems pretty obvious, right?

You really should have

loyalty to the United States first when it comes to being certainly a lawmaker.

And you'd think, I'm not surprised that this stuff happens, but I'm surprised that it's being admitted, right?

I don't know if she thought, well, I'm on foreign territory and I'm speaking in a different language, no one's going to notice, but like, you're not supposed to admit that you might just care about another nation more than you do the one you're working for, right?

It's like, you know, if you're working at McDonald's, you're not supposed to say, well, I mean, I'm a Burger King guy first.

You know, that's that's it's insane.

I just love that.

You know, you're, you're,

you know, you're, you're a priest, not, not,

not just a parishioner, you're a priest in the Catholic Church.

And you're like, really, my heart is with the Methodist Church.

What?

Right.

Right.

You know, maybe you can go sit in a pew, but you're not the one to do the mass.

Yeah, and like you can care.

You can have a

certainly you can even have an order of preference when it comes to foreign nations.

You can say, you know what, my heritage comes from this country and I really do care about what happens there.

That's fine.

But to put it above America is really, and I'm sure she'll say, oh, no, I didn't mean I was putting it above.

I'm sure she'll, there's always an excuse this is the one lesson I've learned in all the years doing the show with you Glenn is no matter what happens they always have an excuse there's always some justification as to why they're not doing the thing they're doing but like

quite clearly this has been said I mean I think I would argue Ilana Marr is a is a more egregious example even

than than this person I've literally never heard of until today

which is

she's on the Homeland Security Committee I'm not saying she's a nobody.

It's just, you know, she just

hasn't been one of those people who's necessarily tried to draw attention to herself on MS.

You know, she's not Jasmine Crockett, right?

Like where she's on TV all the time talking about this.

Oftentimes, that's where a lot of the damage comes from.

Jasmine Crockett is a giant zilch.

She'll never amount to anything.

No one listens to her.

No one even, you know,

she is more of a

clown.

She's a social media personality rather than an actual congresswoman.

A lot of these people go in there, they don't look for the attention.

They don't want everyone looking at them and what they're doing all the time.

And those are the people that are honestly crafting a lot of the legislation and the stuff that winds up bothering us the most, and we don't pay attention to them.

So I'm glad there's some attention being drawn here.

Well, we'll see whether anything's going to happen.

I mean,

honestly,

we as people people need to stop saying I'm hyphenated American.

That's the first thing that happens.

We got to stop saying that.

I've never said I'm German-American.

You, I mean, out of your shame, you've never said you're French-American.

I mean, which is, I mean, you know what I'm saying, Stu, brigier.

Look, you know,

neither Germany nor France have the best histories.

I know.

I know.

Well, neither do Italians, but Italians are proud of it.

That's just because they're like, yeah, spaghetti.

Yeah, be the funny.

And you're like, yeah, you're right.

You're right.

You know, you guys made some mistakes in that one war, but gosh, lasagna?

It's incredible.

And the Germans are like, what about our German chocolate cake?

Well, that's pretty good, though.

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A journalist, I shouldn't say journalist, publicity hound Jim Acosta just did an interview.

I can't even say that.

Just did, I don't even know what you would call it, did a publicity stunt,

not with a witness, not a grieving parent.

He sat down with an AI ghost.

It's a AI recreation of a 17-year-old kid named Joaquin Oliver.

He was murdered in the Parkland massacre.

And then he called it journalism.

He called it a conversation, but it wasn't.

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Let me play this grotesque panama for you.

Listen.

Joaquin, I would like to know what your solution would be for gun violence.

Great question.

I believe in a mix of stronger gun control laws, mental health support, and community engagement.

We need to create safe spaces for conversations and connections, making sure everyone feels seen and heard.

It's about building a culture of kindness and understanding.

What do you think about that?

I think that's a great idea, Joaquin.

That is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life.

I had seen all the headlines.

I hadn't actually seen the

now

so bad it's funny at this point.

It's horrible.

I want to put this into perspective.

This is

a digital ventriloquist act.

He's a puppet.

It's the image of a dead kid long buried, animated like a puppet for the politics of those who are still living.

Now, let me ask you something that, you know, we haven't dared to ask out loud yet, and that is, what does it mean?

What does it truly mean to be alive if in death you're more useful?

What are the Republicans saying, or sorry, the Democrats saying right now to some of the people in Congress?

They're saying, you need to take a bullet.

Why?

Because

you're more useful if you're dead, if somebody assassinates you.

So what does it mean to be alive if in death you're more useful?

What does it mean when your image, your voice, your soul, as captured by a memory or photograph, can be summoned back again, not by God, but by algorithms and agenda?

I hate to go all religious on you, but I have to tell you: if this isn't the making of a graven image, I don't know what is.

Thou shalt not make a graven image.

You don't make for yourself an idol or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on earth beneath.

You know, the Native Americans used to, they would never let you take your picture, some of them, some tribes, would never let you take their picture because they thought it would steal your soul.

This

doesn't have a soul.

This is taking your image, bringing you back to life without a soul.

When man starts creating a likeness to wield power or emotion, we stop serving God and we start serving ourselves.

And

I'm going to be generous here and say I don't blame the parents.

I don't question their grief in any way, shape, or form.

But

this is no longer theirs.

This is not their son.

This is a political puppet.

The minute Joaquin's AI avatar spoke political opinions into a camera, it stopped being about grief and became propaganda.

And this, my friend, is only the beginning.

What happens when governments use AI resurrected faces for propaganda?

What happens when terrorists use deep fake hostages?

Hostages who are already dead, pleading for help.

You don't think that could happen with Hamas?

You don't think that Hamas couldn't have made an image?

In fact, the video that we saw last week could have very well been AI, and the kid could be dead.

Now it's not,

but that's what's coming.

What happens when we begin to trust synthetic testimony over human, actual human experience?

This isn't just immoral.

This is very, very dangerous.

This is soul erasing.

This is post-human.

You are entering a world now that is, it's post-human.

This is the dystopian world, and we're just beginning to step into it.

We're entering an age where the dead can be programmed to speak the words of the living, where grief is nothing more than a marketing tool, where death is not your end, but just a data set now to be parsed and projected and used politically.

And here's the real sick part of this.

The more meaningful your death, the more valuable your ghost.

If that doesn't shake you to your core, nothing's going to.

If this doesn't wake you up to the dangers of AI,

nothing will.

If this doesn't wake you up to go, oh dear God,

I've got to get back to the basics.

I have to start asking the questions, what does it mean to be human?

Nothing will.

We have to draw really strong ethical hard lines in the sand on the use of AI, the use of likeness of the dead.

It should be codified in law, internationally.

And I'm not saying, you know, you're not bringing characters back.

You know, you're not bringing.

You're not bringing things back to, you know, show them in movies or for entertainment or whatever.

But when you're bringing dead children back,

I don't know.

I think there's a problem here.

There's a problem.

And we also have to teach our kids discernment here, critical thinking.

And more than critical thinking, moral reasoning has got to be taught.

We need a generation that knows the difference between the real and artificial, between the sacred and the synthetic, because that's going to be blurred.

All of it is blurred.

How long before a Jim Acosta clown isn't the one doing it?

But somebody's serious.

Transparency from media, from tech, not after the fact, but before the images even appear on the screen.

Now, to his credit, he did say this was AI, of course, but it's a ghost.

We have to reawaken the soul, the concept of the soul.

This is why I've said for years that Ray Kurzweil is one of the scariest guys I've ever met.

Because he doesn't believe in the soul.

He believes that that, what you just saw, is just as real as the real kid.

The soul can't be copied.

It can't be coded.

It can't be commodified.

Because we lose our soul in our culture.

If we lose it

in our culture, in our politics, in our mourning, in our journalism, then you got nothing left.

And doesn't Joaquin Oliver deserve dignity in life?

Everybody knows he deserved peace in death, right?

What he didn't deserve is to be animated by code to deliver a political message like a branded mascot.

I'm sorry, but if this is the parents doing, the parents, the parents, shame on you.

Shame on you.

I understand your grief as much as a parent can that hasn't lost a child.

I understand your grief,

but this is sick.

You know where this road leads?

It leads to a future where grief can be licensed, where every dead child becomes a campaign, and where being alive no longer requires a pulse.

Just a well-trained AI model.

You never died.

That's not compassion.

That is not progress.

That is hell wearing the mask of empathy.

Shame on you, Jim Acosta.

Because out of all the people that could have done this, you're only doing it for PR.

You're only doing it because you need the attention.

It's sick.

And Americans have to stand up and say, no more.

You have to, at least in your personal life,

make a decision.

What is life and what is death worth?

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So, Stu and I are just discussing which one was more lifelike,

Jim Acosta

or

Joaquin Oliver,

who's been dead now since Parkland.

It's hard to hard to measure that, honestly.

Acosta is

certainly brainless.

I don't know if he's lifeless completely, but it seems that way, certainly in this clip.

I can't.

Jim Acosta should go back and create an AI version of his younger self and warn himself about what his career is going to become.

Like that, he should go.

I don't think he'll care.

I don't think he would.

You don't think his younger self would care?

No, no.

Well, now, now he would.

Now he would.

Because now it's like, Jim, you're going to do a big deal in Washington.

You're going to make the tickets for free.

You're going to invite homeless people to the show in the theater, and no one's going to show up.

And no one.

I mean, it's just absolute failure.

I mean, this is a guy who, you know,

there's a certain class of, let me just put in air quotes, journalist that sort of only survives because of like the network structure, right?

Like there's, you know, they get a job, they kind of come up under a big, you know, company, they never really make a lot of waves, they never really do anything impressive, but you know, they need people to be on the air and report on stories, and they kind of just stick around.

And Acosta thinks of himself as like above that, like a guy with a dynamic personality who's really making a difference that people really want to hear from.

And those people do exist, he's just not one of them.

So,

I think him trying to, he's like, this is an incredibly pathetic stunt where he's trying and demanding people talk about him and get his attention.

And any,

I mean, any normal human being would realize this is just a terrible idea.

Forget that it's distasteful.

Forget that it's, you know, this grotesque thing that you're trying to do to make a political point.

Everyone on earth, I think, would realize it's just a terrible idea and it's going to go horribly.

And he is not apparently smart enough to do that.

it's not even that.

It's not that, I mean, if you could take the essence of who

he

was,

it still would not be him.

But if you had, you know, because we're building a Glen AI for me and it's, it's based solely on the words that I have spoken or written

on stage, on radio, on television for the last 30 years.

And that's all it can pull from.

So

it at least is reflective of what I believe.

But that's not what they did.

They didn't download.

I mean, how much did they have that they could download?

Not enough to make that.

This is a puppeteer.

He is a virtual meat sock.

Yeah, I mean, it is so unbelievably distasteful.

Parkland was a, it was middle, was it middle school?

It's been so long now.

I thought that was high school.

Was it high school?

It was young high school.

I just don't believe you're going to have highly formed opinions on

gun violence policy.

Right.

It's a parent's opinion.

And look,

I think you're right to give all sorts of grace to the parents.

And I know probably there's some people who would disagree with us on this, but if you think about losing your kid, you're probably going to do all sorts of crazy stuff for the rest of your life.

I don't know.

I mean, I don't know.

I can't even imagine going through something like that and how I would react to it, probably really badly.

I hope I never do.

Yeah, God forbid.

And if you do, there's all sorts of built-in excuses, frankly, that I'll provide you

and lots of grace.

I don't know.

I mean, this

to me,

this is the type of thing you should probably catch as a bad idea, but it's really hard to put yourself in that situation.

So, you know,

it's much, much worse to talk about Jim Acosta, who's taking their pain, their suffering, and their honestly bad decision-making and using it for his own like PR tour.

It's he is

so pathetic.

I don't know that there's a more pathetic figure in the media today, and I'm including Keith Oberman in that discussion.

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This is

the Glen Beck program.

So I want to talk to you about something that is not a bug in the system.

It is a feature.

And it's called gerrymandering.

And the term comes from Eldridge

Jerry.

He was a founding father.

He was from Massachusetts, I believe.

And he approved a redistricting map in 1812.

And it was so contorted in such a squiggly line, it looked like a salamander.

Hence, gerrymander.

Jerry, governor of Massachusetts, Mander salamander.

The irony is, is that

he opposed strong centralized power, but his name is now the brand of one of the most anti-democratic practices in modern politics, except it started in 1812 and every both sides do it now.

It is the feature of the system.

You want to change that?

We can talk about that.

But what's happening in Texas is the Democratics, the Democrats believe that, you know, they can do do it wherever they are,

but the Republicans better not try it.

Well, that's not the way it works, unfortunately, gang, for

you.

I know you like special privileges, but

both parties are equal, I guess.

Ken Paxton is here to tell us what is happening with the Texas Democrats, what's going to happen with the Texas Democrats, and what should happen.

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Ken Paxton, welcome to the program.

It's great to be back, Glenn.

Hope you're doing well.

The same.

By the way, how are the polls going for you?

How's the race you're running against Cornyn?

Well, it's going well.

I mean, the numbers, every poll I've seen, even polls I haven't done, have me way up.

My own polls have me up 25 points.

And

I just continue to do the same job I've done over the last 11 years.

And he's obviously changed his focus from being what he was to being an all-in Trump guy for the last few months.

It's a miracle.

He's a converter.

Miracle, I know.

I know.

Okay, so Ken, let's talk a little bit about gerrymandering and what is happening here in the state of Texas.

Go ahead.

No, no, go ahead and ask a question.

I should wait at least for a question.

The Democrats don't like the fact that that the Republicans are going to do some gerrymandering here, which is done everywhere else.

So they have left the state.

This is the third time they've done it.

So what is their plan?

What should happen?

And what are you, as the Attorney General and the Governor, going to do about it?

First of all, it's pretty ironic that they're going to Illinois, New York, and Massachusetts, three of the most liberal states and some of the most gerrymandered states in the country.

I think Illinois might be the most gerrymandered.

If you look at at Illinois and how it's drawn, I think 82% of the members of Congress are Democrats, whereas 48% of the population votes Republicans.

So it doesn't match up even closely.

So they leave Texas with the Democrats.

The 51%, some of them go to Chicago to a state that is completely gerrymandered.

So it's really hypocritical in my...

my view what they're doing as you've already mentioned in the prelude to talking to me.

So the goal here is, I honestly would have locked them up when they were in the house.

Text House Speaker could have shut the doors and kept everybody in.

We've done that.

We did that back in 2003.

And once the doors are locked, you can't get out.

And you spend the night there and you vote.

And they could have done that.

They did not do that.

So they let the

cat out of the bag.

The cat's gone.

So now you either arrest them, which you're not going to get help from jurisdictions like Illinois, Boston, and Boston, you're not going to get help, Massachusetts, or New York.

So arresting them is not likely scenario until they come back.

What has happened in the past is our governors have waited them out because ultimately they many of them have to come back.

They have jobs, they have families, they're not going to live in Illinois.

It gets cold up there and New York's cold, Boston's cold.

So they come back and we vote.

And every time we've ultimately been successful, another option we're looking at, as a matter of fact, when I get up this call, I've been meeting with a bunch of my lawyers to talk about this.

quo warento, which is a possibility that we looked into a couple of years ago.

We suggested it might be a way to take existing members out of their positions if they fail to show up to perform their duties.

Now, you take them out of the positions, but then there has to be a special election.

So you can't go right to vote.

Right?

Yeah, no, because that changes the quorum.

I think it'll change the quorum.

So you have less members, your quorum numbers change.

Abbott could also appoint, I think, could appoint, and at least until there's a special election, some of these might be appointed positions as well for a period of time.

So, there's possibilities, it's definitely not a fast process, although we're trying to figure out a way to fast-track it so that we can get an answer sooner rather than later.

Otherwise,

it's just a waiting game.

Either way, in the end,

we know how this is going to turn out because Governor Abbott's not going to back down and he'll just keep calling them back until they show up.

This is a nuclear weapon that they launched.

And all you're going to hear from the media is if you launch back,

they're going to just say that you're using a nuclear weapon.

You're destroying the Republic, et cetera, et cetera.

But they're the ones that launched the nuclear strike.

You don't do that.

And this is the third time they've tried this, and it doesn't work.

Well, what's interesting, Glenn, is, I mean,

I was in the Texas House starting in 2003, served 10 years in the House, two years in the Senate, been AG for 11.

The only thing they've ever left on, it's not abortion, it's not

welfare.

It's always this.

This is what they care about.

They care about controlling Congress, about controlling things through manipulation.

And these are the rules of the game.

The Supreme Court laid down the rules.

As you said, you can gerrymander as long as it's political.

The legislature has every right to draw the lines however they want to.

And they could be really bad lines for the other party, but they're allowed to do it under Texas, under a U.S.

Supreme Court precedent.

And it is a state's decision.

This is not a federal decision.

This is a state's decision.

Every state can do whatever it is.

What do you think about New York, which is already gerrymandered?

What do you think about New York saying, well, if Texas is going to do that, then we're just going to gerrymander even more?

Well, look,

they're entitled to do whatever their state constitution and their laws allow them to do.

There's always a risk you go too far and you stretch those seats too far.

There are Republicans in New York, I know, because my family's from there.

There are Republicans, and if you draw those seats too tightly,

you can end up losing some of those down the road.

I will

tell you that

the problem with gerrymandering, in my opinion, and the founders, both Jefferson and

I think it was Adams and Jefferson wrote about this.

And this is about 1820, so after gerrymandering had started.

And they talked about how this was a flaw in the Constitution that they wish they would have put in what are called stakes, and it comes right from the Old Testament, where, you know, you start with,

you know, 500 people, and then that's a square.

And then when that becomes, you know, a thousand people, you cut it in half, and it becomes another square.

And so it just, you don't, you can't gerrymander.

Everything just keeps growing and you just keep cutting it in squares.

Because the problem is, when you gerrymander, all of a sudden your neighbors don't matter.

All of a sudden, you might be represented by somebody who's way away from your community instead of somebody who's living right in your community.

And the other thing is, you no longer care about the middle.

You're only playing to the extremes because you've cut everyone else out that would help balance you.

at all.

It's really dangerous.

Do you agree with that or not?

No, I absolutely agree with with you.

It's just that's not the system the founders put in place.

And as a result,

you know, the Democrats are going to do it.

You can sit back and say, well,

philosophically, I'm against this.

And the Democrats are just going to control the House and the Senate forever because we're against this.

You can't let that happen.

So

I agree with you.

It's not ideal.

But you play by the rules, just like in football, you might like all the rules, but you play by the rules you got.

Correct.

So you're going to decide, I mean, on a warrant or warrants

have been issued, right?

But it's one where they come into the state and it's not, they don't take, you don't take them to jail, you take them to the house, correct?

Yes, it's not a prison sentence.

I mean, unless you consider being on the Texas House floor, which I often did, a prison sentence.

But because

if the doors are shut and you're stuck with all those people, sometimes you wish you weren't.

Right.

Yeah, it's just

once they step into the state, they'll be escorted back to the house.

And presumably, they'll do what I suggested.

And

either if they're not going to step, they already know they're going to, if they come back, they're going to stay.

They've made their decision.

So

who knows when that'll be?

But I think in the end, it won't matter.

It'll happen

the way the Republicans have planned it.

Ken, thank you very much.

Are we, you're going to be looking into who paid for these flights.

It's my understanding that some of them were flying private jets, and I'd like to know who paid for those.

That just has to be declared before the next election or at the end of the year.

So during special session, they have to report on their campaign expenditures and their campaign contributions.

So that will all be seen by the public within, I think, a month after session, something like that.

So

the special session lasts 30 days.

I forget exactly what day he called it.

Sometime in,

I would say sometime in September, we should know that information.

Wow.

Thank you so much, Ken.

I appreciate it.

Keep up the good work.

Absolutely.

Have a great day.

God bless.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

So, Stu,

I mean, it's nuclear war.

It's nuclear war.

It's a very pathetic version of nuclear war where you run away to J.P.

Pritzker.

I mean, it's not,

the day after exactly.

It's Sissy.

Yes.

It's Sissy.

Yeah.

It's nuclear war.

It's Democrat nuclear war.

It really is pathetic, right?

It's this, you know, you're scampering away to hide behind a very large governor in another state.

And we should also highlight why it's Illinois.

There's a reason for this, right?

Like, you know, you could go, there is an Indian, a Native American reservation with the world's largest casino, casino, Glenn, right over the border of Texas.

They could go there and stay there and

they'd be across state lines.

They're in Illinois because you know fundraising.

Right, exactly.

They're looking because they want J.B.

Pritzker to be their sugar daddy.

And they also realize that J.B.

Pritzker's likely going to run for president in 2028.

These people want to be close to those types of

money.

He's a billionaire and that type of influence.

And so they're going there to sort of scout whatever their next gig is or wherever the next donation is coming from.

It's got nothing to do with

caring about any of this.

Of course they care about the seats.

Kennan's right.

That's seemingly their most central interest is power.

But

this works on multiple fronts.

for their continued power, and this is why they're doing it, even though they know they're going to fail.

I mean,

there's no way this ends with Texas not having a quorum for the rest of the term.

Like, that's not how this ends.

No.

No.

You know, and it's what's sad is they're supposed to be talking about property tax relief that if you really want to help your constituents, you pass that.

You change the property tax rules.

The property tax in Texas is just

like Florida, completely out of control.

Completely out of control.

Yeah,

I certainly agree with that.

But there's also the flood, you know, these flood victims.

And it's funny because

the way the media is spinning this is that Republicans are stopping it.

It's like, no, wait a minute.

The Democrats are in another state.

What do you mean Republicans are stopping the funding?

They come back and then they can start talking about the funding for, yes, they're going to do the maps.

That's going to be part of it.

And that's going to happen either way.

But this way would also get the money to the people that need it in these flood zones.

And it's fascinating that the Republicans get the blame for that.

Just like Israel is getting the blame for the starving hostages now.

Wait a minute.

Hamas is starving the hostages, but it's Israel's fault that they're starving.

It's hard to even follow the logic, but that's where we are with the video.

I know.

And the other thing is, they were getting rid of

the star tests, which your your kids have taken star testing, Stu?

Maybe.

I don't know.

I don't pay attention to them much.

They come and go.

The start please.

The star testing is the state of Texas, the standardized test.

And

everybody hates it.

Teachers hate it.

Kids hate it because it's just, you're teaching half of the year just to that test.

And it's ridiculous.

You've got to stop teaching to tests.

That's what makes school so depressing is you're just memorizing for test.

You're just memorizing.

And what is that teaching you?

That's not teaching you how to think.

That's teaching you what to think and how to answer questions on a test

that you've memorized.

It's ridiculous.

I don't know why we do it.

And that's another thing that is on

the list.

But, you know, the Democrats had to get out of town so they could.

Gosh, darn it, so they could stand for their constituents.

Yeah, you know, I mean, I know this isn't the the topic, but I'm not, I don't hate them as much as everybody else does.

Standardized testing, you know, I get why it has a bad rep, and I understand

why that is.

Okay, hang on.

I just thought for a second, I thought you were talking about the Democrats there for a second.

Oh, my God, no.

Oh, my God.

No.

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So could I show, and this comes with a warning, may I show the picture of

the Prime Minister of Canada in Vancouver,

Prime Minister Mark Carney, known as a very serious man,

hugging a guy at the gay pride parade.

Now, which one is Carney?

Carney's the one in the pink.

Well, has the pink thing on his chest.

Oh, oh.

I should be right.

Yeah, because there's a pink thong in the picture, too.

I thought maybe you were saying

that was him.

So you're saying he's the one in the suit, not the one in the suit.

Yeah, that's probably a better way to say it.

He's the one in the suit.

Yeah.

Right.

That is

disgusting.

And he just wanted to go because, you know, he just wanted to show his support

for

you know gay pride and you can do that without hanging out with guys in a pink thong

uh and nothing else out on the streets i mean i think you could be pro LGBTQ

and

not do that

you know I don't think that's you don't think you have to have physical contact with a naked man to support LGBTQ.

No, no, I don't.

I really don't.

I really don't.

It might be a little demeaning.

I mean, even the Canadians are mocking him for this.

Really?

Yeah.

I mean, look at how pathetic he looks.

Yeah.

And he's like keeping his distance.

He's like, okay, I'm going to give you a shoulder hug, you know, or my shoulder touches your shoulder.

Okay.

I'm not looking directly at you.

It's pathetic.

There's a bit of disconnect from reality when it comes to politicians and these, especially these parades, where like, I think in their mind, it's like, oh, it's a parade to support rights.

And, like, they, like, I can't believe that, that, you know, conservatives would highlight the, you know, the every, sure, there's a bunch of people running around with sex toys or whatever, but like, I can't believe they would highlight them.

And then they go down there and they realize it's actually a big part of the festival.

You know, it's a festivities are slightly, yeah.

It's it's not like a WNBA game, you know what I mean?

No, oh, there's one, it's the whole thing.

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Some breaking news.

Scientists have now come out with a new report that says the Titan Submergible,

the little submarine they were taking down to the Titanic that it imploded,

they say that

it had design flaws in it.

What?

So.

Yeah, I know.

What?

Thank you, Werner von Braun, for bringing us up to speed.

I didn't realize that

was the problem.

No kidding.

I would say multiple.

Multiple design problems.

Weren't they controlling it by like a PlayStation controller?

Right.

I mean, that's probably one of the things.

You know, you get into it and it's like, wait, this is a PlayStation controller?

I don't think I'm going down under the water.

I don't think I'm going to.

We really are a trusting people.

Maybe to our fault.

I said earlier today, retardation has gone airborne.

We are just

retarded.

We have become, it's becoming a national epidemic.

It is.

Yes, you did say that.

Yes.

So the

yes, Glenn, you did say that.

Speaking of going back to the story we were talking about a second ago with the Canadian Prime Minister,

I don't know, getting felt up or whatever was happening in that photo at the Gay Pride Parade with the guy in a thong.

I was wondering if, do you think Canada has had the same sort of

reawokening, if you will, that we've had?

I could tell right where you're going.

Nope.

Nope.

When the Prime Minister is hugging a guy in a butt thong,

no, I don't think they've had the awakening.

At least

to that level.

This might help with the reawakening because people in Canada are like, oh, dear God, what did our Prime Minister just do?

I mean, this would help, but I don't think, I mean, you saw here in America, Pride parades were way down.

pride flags way down the pride days pride parades pride festivals they could not get sponsors this year because it's over it's over and I don't know I shouldn't say it's over yeah it's not over it's it's the the the frenzy of it is over yeah I think there's a big

we talked about this at the time too and at the time it felt more controversial than maybe it does right now but like there are in my mind sort of like three different categories of companies you've got like real left-wing companies and you got a few real right wing companies and then you have a bunch of companies that are in the middle they're going to go wherever they think the the tide or the current is going and if in the moment they think the best thing they should do is tweet about pride day they're going to do that and if the next day it's uh the it's you know red white and blue and uh you know and and pickup trucks and uh you know people having beer in the on the tail in tailgate then that's what they're going to do.

Like that is, I think, the majority of companies.

I think the majority of companies are in that category.

They are looking to sell their product.

They don't want to be cracked down by the government.

They don't want to be dragged through some crisis in the media.

And they just want to do their own thing.

And I think

now it's easy to kind of say, well, that kind of seems like where it is.

I don't think we've seen a massive awakening.

Like, I don't know that American Eagle is some right-wing company, right?

Like, they're just

putting their finger up in the air and saying, oh, okay, this is the way the wind is blowing.

Exactly.

They're people who didn't really care in the first place.

Yeah.

They also didn't care about the rock stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're just shallow.

And honestly, like, I know that sounds bad, but like, I can deal with that from companies.

What I want them to do is provide a service.

I don't need to even know what their opinion is about these things.

I don't care about it at all.

I'm not going to make my decision based on what American Eagle or Bud Light or Patagonia tell me about a particular topic.

I don't know who the people are that care about that.

I know why, and you've covered it in a couple of your books, why that was being done

because

it was much more than just DEI.

It was ESG and

CRT and all these other different

things that were piled on top of each other.

And it was kind of an end round around our normal systems of government, right?

Like it really was a way to influence the entire culture by going around the normal ways we do things.

So I understand why they were trying that, but I don't care about it.

And I don't need that from my companies.

You know, President Trump highlighted the Sidney Sweeney thing the other day, I think it was yesterday,

and was saying, hey, he said, Sidney Sweeney, a registered Republican,

has the hottest ad out there.

I think it's true.

Oh,

that's fantastic.

It's bizarre like i honestly when i saw it i was like probably not true there's probably somebody else with the same name but it seems like multiple sources have now reported on this and said yes she is a registered republican which is

interesting in a couple of ways number one you wouldn't she does not seem like the type that would be out there like making political statements she does she really doesn't talk about politics at all she's not doesn't seem like a political person at all the the stuff that she i mean she's she was in the handmaid's tale right like she it's not like she's been like you know only been seen in religious pictures.

Euphoria, not exactly a conservative vehicle, I would say.

I was going to say, has she been in any religious pictures?

Well, yes, the handmaid's tale.

The handmaid's tale, lots of religion.

The handmaid's tale.

She's in the pictures, in the moving pictures.

You know what I mean, though?

She's in religious.

I know, I know, I know.

You have that sort of like cultural, those signals that you get from certain people.

Gosh, he seems to be in all these movies about good fatherhood and

sports.

You have those types of people, and you can kind of say, eh, there's a good chance that they're conservative.

You would not get that from Sidney Sweeney's past.

I mean, that's not what you would get.

So that is, that's interesting.

And so it's interesting that she would take the time.

Again, you're registering, you make that choice.

You're saying you can easily just be an independent and no one's going to know.

And if you're an actress, like you'd think

you consider that and you're making a decision.

I know this might be found out.

I'm going to do it anyway.

That's, I think, interesting.

I will also add: is there any reason, Glenn, why that should be public information?

Why on earth should we be able to search a database for an individual's party registration?

Why do we need to know that?

Other than the fact that these dumb politicians want to text us constantly, other than that,

what's the purpose of that?

What good does it do for America that I can pull up Bob Thompson in Des Moines

and find out that he's a

Des Moines, Iowa, and find out that he's a Republican or a Democrat.

What business of that is mine?

I don't understand that.

Well, you said the key word, and you've already addressed it.

You've said the key word, business.

You know, it's all about calling you, getting money, and, you know, it's business.

That's what that's about.

That's just a terrible thing.

So everybody knows who to get business from.

It has nothing to do.

It's nobody's business.

Right, but nobody's business.

That's why you should register as an independent because

I'll vote for whoever has the best ideas.

Democrats haven't had a good idea

for a long time.

But, you know, I mean, I would love to have John F.

Kennedy be a Republican.

I mean, with the policies that he had back then,

I would like him to be a Republican.

I'd probably be more apt to vote for him than most of the Republicans today because the Republicans, they're not that, I mean, Kennedy is a conservative in comparison to a lot of the Republicans today.

It's a bizarre time when it comes to that.

It's really bizarre.

It comes to that.

But

I think you're right that

the time of the wokeness is

over.

And I can't say it's still going to be there.

Yes.

But the time of the craziness, I think, is over, at least temporarily.

If they regain control, can you imagine

the revenge?

The revenge that will happen would be terrifying.

And a lot of these companies that now are maybe seeming more sane will go the other way when pressure is going that way.

Trump did highlight, though, in that same, I guess, truth that it was, he highlighted Jaguar as well.

Jaguar did a stupid and seriously woke advertisement that is a disaster.

CEO has just resigned.

Company's in turmoil.

And it is true, like thinking of those two moments had me thinking about how

far we've come in a very short period of time.

You know, I sometimes think about the COVID era, like that, let's say April, March, 2020, right?

They just had the 15 days to slow the spread.

Every restaurant in town is closed.

You can't go out to them.

You know, that period where it felt like your kids are maybe not in school.

And you're at home and it's weird, right?

Like the whole world feels incredibly strange.

And you look back at that and say, gosh, I can't believe we actually went through that.

And that's a normal thing to go through, I think, when you're thinking back to the COVID era.

We don't do it enough when it comes to like

George Floyd to 2023, right?

Like that period,

like the like the world went insane for a couple of years.

Like I, someone posted this over the weekend and it went viral, and I had totally forgotten about it, but it was a tweet from the NHL, the National Hockey League, okay?

Just a tweet from the NHL's main account that said,

trans men are men, trans women are women,

and

some other ridiculous piece of Ibram Kendi nonsense thrown into a tweet with no explanation

from the National Hockey League.

Who, I mean, until recently, like, I don't even think they had a player that wasn't like Russian.

Like, they're like the least diverse organization in the world.

Just a bizarre moment.

Like, why on earth would they think that is an appropriate thing for a hockey league to be talking about?

And there was,

this was all over the place at that time.

Just think how,

you know, they say your history is, you're on the wrong side of history.

I think you're beginning to see which side was the wrong side of history.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, Jaguar learned it.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Because

they missed the deadline, right?

Like the time ran out when all that stuff was normal to just be like super weird and woke.

And then they were like, well, what if we design our entire company around that image?

And a year later, the CEO is fired, right?

Like that is.

Is that where it really, truly jumped the shark?

Where is the jump the shark moment?

That's a great question.

Ah, that's a great question.

Because that's when we all noticed it.

When Jaguar did that, we went, whoa.

It felt all of a sudden it was like, whoa, what are they doing?

It felt like, wait, did they miss a memo?

Like, why is this happening?

You're right.

You know, I'm trying to think of what the Jump the Shark, that might be the Jump the Shark moment.

Like, because, you know, you think about that, and if you don't know that reference.

It's from Happy Days when Fonzie jumped the shark and everyone was like, that was the end of the series being good, was essentially that line, right?

And, you know, it was over essentially after that moment.

I mean, I, I, maybe the Jaguar thing is a good representation of that because that would have been last year and it did feel like when that happened, it was, we noticed it, right?

And I can't, that's part of the Jump the Shark moment.

It's not just that it's a bad show.

It was like, that was the moment everyone like, oh, God, this, this show's actually not even good, is it?

Like, that was kind of that

moment.

Just like, just like everything else, it's not that you didn't know that Happy Days was not going well.

You know what I mean?

mean?

Everybody knew happy days was not going well.

It wasn't like, great, and then jump the shark.

It was, yeah, this is really suffering.

This is bad.

We should put it out of its misery.

Oof, this is getting really tough.

He's going to take his bike and jump a shark.

It's over.

It's over.

Just like, just like the, just like the woke moment, I think that might be the jump the shark moment because we felt it coming.

We all felt it coming.

We're like, this is not going well.

This is not going to last much longer.

And then that happened.

We're all like, wow.

This just stinks up the whole room.

Yeah,

that feels like a good example.

I'd love to hear what other people think of as that.

Another one that popped into my mind was the

Major League Baseball canceling the All-Star team, or the All-Star game in Atlanta because of a statewide voting policy that

wound up increasing voter turnout.

Now, that, to me isn't right, though.

It's too early in the process.

That's not the right one.

And you think of all the people posting things on

Instagram for Black Lives Matter.

But again, that was on the early side.

It's got to be a little later.

That's an interesting question.

Maybe we'd take phone calls on that tomorrow and tomorrow's show.

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And they were down 97.5%,

which

sounds bad, you know, but if you read CNN, you'll realize there's a real reason for it.

And actually, the CAO had a pretty good run as the Jaguar CEO.

He just...

you know, sure, he ended it with selling almost zero cars.

But,

But they're making, luckily, they're making a transition and there was a successful transition to EVs.

I mean, successful is, you know, in the eye of the beholder when you're down 97.5%, but at least they're not hurting the environment.

Actually, even better than electric vehicles for global warming is not making any vehicles or selling any vehicles at all.

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How are you?

I'm doing really well.

I hope you're doing fantastic.

I am doing great.

I'm doing great.

Tell me about One Nation Always Under God.

It is a story.

The way I look at it is if we're going to understand our future, we must have a great foundation in our past.

And America's foundation was a Judeo-Christian ethos.

And through the book, One Nation Always Under God, I speak a lot about these amazing Christians who dedicated their lives to being extraordinary, not because of who they are, but because of whose they are.

In God's hands, we can do the most remarkable things.

So

there's a couple of books out that are, one of them is coming out.

Yours is out now, One Nation Always Under God, that is explaining this, I think, in the best way possible.

When a country loses its story, it loses.

You can't sustain it anymore.

And

these are the stories where

American Christians

stepped up and needed God and moved our nation forward.

So let's talk about a couple of the stories.

Let's start with

William Lloyd Garrison.

Who is he?

What happened?

You know, Gwen, one of the things that got me in trouble back in 2021, as I said the truth, which is that America is not a racist country.

And one of the reasons why we're not a racist country is because we've wrestled with race for so long, we've won.

And William Lloyd Garrison was an abolitionist who fought tooth and nail against racism and slavery.

And because of his fortitude and his faith in God, that he was called as an ordinary person to resist the way that the world was at the time, he achieved a victory for other people.

You know, Proverbs 31, 8 reminds us to stand up for those who can't stand for themselves.

William Lloyd Garrison and millions of Americans have taken that stand.

And today we celebrate the achievement of those who went before us.

And if we're smart, we'll remember that as we look to our future and celebrate where we are today because of the sacrifices of yesterday.

Apollo 13 astronaut Jim Lovell.

Yeah, what a great story.

Jim Lovell was a man of conviction and strong faith.

He was lost in space, 200,000 miles, 200,000 miles away from home, so to speak.

Running out of oxygen, he started praying.

This peace fell over him, and he understood what he needed to do to save the lives of the astronauts that were with him by conserving oxygen, making some things happen that were nearly impossible, but he was led by his faith and prayer that gave him a peace that allowed him to rely on the expertise he had inside him over years and years as an astronaut.

It's a tremendous story of victory, even outside of this world.

Dorothea Dix.

Dorothea Dix is a wonderful story of an amazing Christian who felt called to examine the institutions where those who were suffering from mental health and mental breakdowns were housed.

She found their fight to be disgusting and challenging.

She felt called by God, an ordinary everyday woman, did something extraordinary.

She changed the way that the same asylums of her time were housing everyday Americans.

And because of her, we have sanity, we have respect, and dignity in so many of the places that today those who are suffering mental health challenges are taken care of.

Really an amazing story.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Finish up.

Just really an amazing story of a woman called by God, everyday person, to do something, frankly, groundbreaking around the globe, all started here in America by one woman with a Christian conviction.

So we are,

let me get off the book here for a second, but focus on this, which she did.

We are now, we have a mental health problem on the streets of our country.

It is really bad.

And I don't know how to solve it.

Tim, there's, you know, the president says, you know,

we've got to get these people back into

care.

And that is absolutely true.

But I also remember what the government was like, what those government institutions were like, and what they became.

When I was a kid and Reagan stopped them, they were really and dangerous.

How do we stop this from becoming that again?

Well, that's a great question.

And one of the reasons why I wrote about Dorothea Dixon is I looked around and saw the flight of everyday Americans today.

A hundred thousand people have lost their lives because of fentanyl and drug overdoses.

During COVID, we saw a 30% increase in parents bringing their teenage kids to the ER because of mental health episodes.

We are, you're 100% right.

We are living in a time of great mental instability.

The way that we solve this is, frankly, not by having the government take it over.

It is, however, by having programs like the one started by John Baker, who focused on Celebrate Recovery in church.

I believe the fastest way to solve the problems that we face today is by depending not on the government, but depending on each other.

And this program called Celebrate recovery is in over 40,000 churches around the world and as a result we've seen lives restored we've seen people healed we've seen families brought back together the one thing you and I both celebrate is the fact that the government we don't depend on the government because they don't do things well and frankly the actual solutions are closer to home in your local church in your local community in your family we need the restoration of the family as a bedrock of our society if we're going to solve many of the issues and the ills that we face.

That can't happen because of government fiat.

It only happens because a person convicted by the Lord turns to God for help.

Family is restored because fathers and husbands see their rightful place in the family and they find their common sense and return home to their families.

What does it mean convicted by the Lord?

Well, me, the conviction, I'll talk about my personal experience.

As a kid growing up in poverty, I was lost as a goose in a rainstorm for much of my childhood.

I nearly failed out of school because I didn't see a way forward.

But, Glenn, I'll tell you, I felt this growing need for something, and I had some really good Christian friends who taught me by example more than words that what I was looking for was a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

I felt this conviction, and

I want to look at that comparatively speaking to condemnation.

So often, people that condemn you are looking out for your best interests.

But you do need to have this conviction in your own heart that there is a better way.

And that conviction for me led me to examine Christianity, and I came to the saving conclusion, my life is better off in his hands.

And so, when I talk about that conviction, I'm really talking about this understanding that something must change and it must start in me, not somewhere else.

You know, it is, to me, it is the definition of evil.

What we're seeing happen in our country where people are telling you, you know, everything's stacked against you, you'll never make it.

You got to vote for this or, you know, your life is wasted.

And

it is so evil to convince people that they don't have everything in them to make it because they do.

Absolutely, Gwen.

This is one of the most important foundations of our country.

We were given our inalienable rights, not by government, not from government, but by God.

And if that's the case, then we should never see ourselves as victims, but we should see ourselves as victors, because all things are possible in a country whose foundation is the Lord's.

We haven't gotten it right.

I'm not suggesting that we have, but I am suggesting that the closer we get to that more perfect union, the more likely we are in consistent harmony with the principles that undergird this society that come from the gospel.

You know, we never have gotten it right.

And, you know,

anybody who says America is a failure, never gotten it right, never lived up to its principles.

Have you read those principles?

I mean, those principles that all men are created equal, you know, and endowed by their creator, life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness,

those

principles are really, really, really super high.

And

I can't think of a grander mission statement than what our declaration lays out.

And

we don't cut ourselves any slack as human beings and say, look, we're going to mess it up, but you got to get back up and reapply yourself to the mission again.

Well, you should keep preaching that because that's exactly what the book of Proverbs reminds us, that a man falls seven times, but a good man gets up the seventh time that he falls.

It's the same thing that we hear from Jesus in the book of Matthew that how many times should I be forgiven?

Seven times is no, 70 times seven.

It's exactly the same thing that we see in the midst of great challenges and frankly, even in my home state of South Carolina at the Mother Emmanuel Church shooting,

the believers of that church said to the killer, they said Matthew 5, 44, you got to love your enemies and pray for those that persecute you.

They said, I forgive you.

Where does that come from?

It comes from the recognition that we are all flawed humans.

And as flawed humans, the most powerful thing we can do is to give it to the Lord.

And when we do that, we see this life come out of us and form around us.

That is what makes America in pursuit of this thing called perfection.

We will always, always fall short, but ultimately, are you going to strive for mediocrity?

Are you going to strive for average?

Or do you want to get as close as possible to this notion that we are perfectible?

Well, we're only only perfectible on the other side.

But until then, let us strive in the direction of perfection because we believe in absolute truth.

We'll miss the mark, but I'm going to continue to fight tooth and nail to be all that I can be until I am entered into heaven heaven through the glory of God.

I want to ask you something because we're talking about conviction, and you've been talking about religious conviction.

But let me ask you about conviction to our own country.

We had a Congresswoman Ramirez, she was at a summit in Mexico City.

Over the weekend, she's speaking in Spanish and she says, I'm a proud Guatemalan before I'm an American.

We've had Elon Omar say that she feels like she serves Somalia more than the United States.

Can you be

an official of the United States and hold up the Constitution

if you are not

convicted that America is where your heart is, that

that's what comes first?

You could say God comes first, and I get that, that's first citizenship.

But if your first citizenship is in Somalia or Guatemala,

how are you in the government of the United States?

Should that be well, Glenn,

Glenn, let's just be clear for all the listeners.

Anyone who has taken the oath of office, who says that their allegiance is to another country, they have betrayed their oath of office and they should resign.

Period.

Let me go a little further.

Any American citizen who says that they are more beholden or more connected to their homeland, that's not America, then

they too are as lost as a goose in a rainstorm.

The fact of the matter is to be an American requires, in my heart and my deepest understanding, you have to assimilate, acclimate to what it means to be an American.

You cannot hold an allegiance to someplace else while saying that, you know, I'm here because it's the greatest country on the planet.

I'm going to celebrate home.

The fact that you are here suggests that the most compassionate country on the planet has allowed you in.

At least, in response to our compassion and our love, at least assimilate to what it means to be an American and then go a step further.

Encourage everyone in your community to do the same.

It is not okay to get here and

to say that Somalia is where you're going to celebrate your real affection or that you're somewhere in Mexico.

That game has been played and and they all lose.

We, the United States of America, an incredible melting pot of people, but we have one single culture and it is defined at our inception.

It is the unique place on the planet where we celebrate diversity, but not multiculturalism.

I think they're very different.

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good, wholesome, Christian books in the libraries and tried to take those libraries back from the radical left.

I mean, remember, it was Trans Story Hour at the libraries.

Just, I mean, this is going to be remembered as a moment of insanity and now a moment of healing.

But he's going to be with us here in just a second.

Also, Missy Robertson, married to Jace Robertson of the Duck Dynasty Clan, gonna be reading at the Library of Congress on August 16th with Kirk Cameron.

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Glenn, we were talking earlier about Jumping the Shark and when this

crazy woke movement jumped the shark.

And I thought

it might have been the Jaguar commercial.

But it also could have been

maybe the Bud Light commercial.

That's probably a better example, Stu.

Yeah, I mean,

that's the most obvious one, right?

The

Dylan Mulvaney.

Bud Light moment, if you will.

That one probably has to be up there.

Another one is

someone suggests

when

Disney had a lesbian black space witch in Star Wars

and then Disney blamed Star Wars fans for being toxic says Rich that's that's one that might work as well

there's a lot of examples though there's a lot of nominees for this one you know it was four years ago only I mean think of this Kurt Cameron was on this program with me I think four years ago And he had put a book out and he was banned from reading it in the library all across the country.

And that kicked off a movement back then.

But it was wildly different times just a few three, four years ago.

Kirk is joining us now.

Hi, Kirk.

How are you?

Good morning, guys.

I'm doing great.

Great.

Thank you for having me on the show.

How long ago was it?

Tell the story where...

where woke really just came down your throat.

Well, yeah, that's just

some some disturbing imagery right there.

But, you know, you're talking about the black lesbian Space Witch.

I'm remembering Buzz Light Year, and I'm remembering Bud Light commercial, just like you said.

But for me, on a personal level, it was four years ago when I went to public libraries and was outright locked out of them, just straight up denied by over 50 woke libraries that wouldn't let me read my wholesome children's book about faith, hope, and love to the communities that wanted to hear it.

And when I told you and a few other friends who helped to spread the word,

I put them on blast, reminded them that's America, this is unconstitutional, this is viewpoint discrimination of the worst kind, religious discrimination.

And they quickly reversed their judgments, gave me an invitation.

And when I showed up, there were thousands of parents and grandparents who were there to support a movement of getting back to the values in education that lead to our kids' blessing and their protection.

So

that was

three years ago.

That was three to four years ago.

Yeah, right around Christmas time.

Look at how fast things have changed.

And now

this year you're going to be at the Library of Congress.

That's nuts.

Isn't that great?

I love it.

This is the perfect plot twist in a great movie.

Just when you think all hope is lost, when you're up against the worst kind of odds, we feel like we're on a freight train headed for a leftist brick wall, all of a sudden the political winds change and opportunities open up.

So we went from being locked out of libraries to now partnering with the Trump administration to lead Story Hour at the Library of Congress.

And I think the key is, it's you've got to genuinely have pure-hearted motives behind what you do if you want heaven's help.

You've got to have a clear conscience and a faith that doesn't flinch.

And essentially, what we need to say to those who are destroyers of our children's liberty is that we're not begging for a seat at the cultural table.

We're building a new one.

And now the Trump administration is pulling up a chair, and we are about to change the cultural narrative

because you don't let faith and freedom falter.

You don't retreat when that happens.

You rally.

And that's what parents are doing.

Are you concerned at all

about

Trump losing to a Democrat for some reason the economy goes sideways or something?

And the vengeance that the left will come back with?

Yeah, I'm sure they're chomping at the bit.

I mean,

they're salivating at the opportunity.

But that has been the case for 10 years to just destroy the man and the administration.

And I don't know about you, Glenn, I think you would agree with me.

I think that the divine hand of Providence has been behind this guy.

I don't know how else to explain it.

I mean, I'm not saying he's the epitome and moral paragon of everything that we want our daughters to marry as a neither.

Neither was David.

Neither was King David.

Neither was Moses.

Neither was anyone in the Bible except for Jesus.

Yeah, and certainly, you know, I mean, do we want to say that Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Obama, and Kamala were of higher moral character, or anyone else behind the curtain for that matter?

I know of only a couple of people that I would say I think are really morally upstanding people

at those levels of power and influence.

But what I do know is more has been done for pro-life, more has been done for families, more has been done for opportunity and education and freedom.

And I'm so thankful to be on this train right now.

So,

how how is Iggy and Mr.

Kirk doing?

It's doing so good.

You know, Iggy, my little five-year-old puppet iguana that I'm raising in my backyard treehouse, he's getting a little bit of a big head.

You know, he wants his name

at the front of the title of the show.

It's Iggy and Mr.

Kirk.

It couldn't be the other way around.

He's got a tough agent.

But kids love him.

And that's on the

Brave Plus, right?

Yeah, it's streaming on Brave Plus, but it's also streaming on the Angel Network, which we're really grateful for, right next to the Chosen.

And it's streaming on Pureflix as well.

My sister, Candace Cameron, is a big part of the Great American Family Channel, and it's streaming there as well.

So people can watch it in all three places.

She's very concerned about

AI.

Isn't she?

My sister?

My sister?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I get it.

I get it.

Yeah, it's it's

it's concerning.

It's very concerning.

Yeah.

So

go ahead.

Well, I was just going to say, you know, it's like so many other powerful pieces of technology, you know, there's so much to love about it and there's so much to be terrified about it.

And when Elon Musk says that he thinks it's a larger existential threat than nuclear warfare, you know,

we got to take that serious.

Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

There was,

what was his name, Stu, from CNN?

I forget a total loser.

Yeah, that's

going to narrow it down more than that, but Jim Acosta.

Yeah, Jim Acosta.

Did you see Jim Acosta?

He just did

an interview with one of the kids that died at Parkland

through AI.

And I saw that today.

I thought of you immediately being on the show because I thought, this is making graven images.

This seems just so unbelievably wrong when you don't have, you know, it's soulless.

It's a literal digital puppet of whatever the parents are thinking.

It's not him.

It just seemed to cross a really dangerous line.

Yeah.

Yeah, it does, right?

I mean, I think that's always our dilemma: is

can we

keep up morally morally with the things we create technologically?

I mean, this is the stuff that makes for great movies.

It's when the mad scientist creates the thing and then it falls into the wrong hands, and we're there.

I just did an episode on my podcast where we talked about AI relationships, and people straight up have AI girlfriends, boyfriends, and virtual soulmates, and they're getting married to them, at least in their hearts and ceremonially, and they're in tears saying, I've never been so in love.

And you think, is this the future of relationships,

or is this just a dismantling of

human beings and the beginning of transhumanism?

What will our sons and daughters marry in the future?

Oh, it's the end of it.

Obviously, it's the end of humanity, end of humans.

If we all pair off with an artificial being,

you know, we're not going to be making a lot of other kids.

And it's a truly frightening world where

you don't have to deal with any messy downsides of a relationship at all.

You don't have to come home when you've had a really bad day and have the AI say, hey, you haven't even asked me about my day yet.

I mean, that's part of being alive.

Yeah, yeah, I know.

I found nothing in my life to be more sanctifying or character building

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You're going to be with Missy Robinson, what is it, August 16th, right?

That's next week.

That's right.

Yeah.

Missy and Jace Robertson from Duck Dynasty are going to be with me at the Library of Congress for See You at the Library.

And this is the big event that we have been doing the last couple of years.

It's the culmination of all these story hours and book readings.

And it's going to be in hundreds and hundreds of libraries across the U.S.

led by the Bible.

by parents and grandparents singing, praying, reading books of virtue and character and patriotism.

And I will be at kind of the mother ship, which is the Library of Congress with Missy and Jace and the Department of Education Center for Faith in partnership with the Trump administration.

It's going to be awesome.

It is going to be awesome.

He's gone from, in four years, gone from being kicked out of 50 different libraries to now having over 500 libraries participating in this, including the Library of Congress.

Kirk, always good to talk to you, my friend.

Thank you so much.

I'm so thankful for you.

God bless you guys.

God bless you guys.

You bet.

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Here's a bit of his appearance on MSNBC.

We just watched the speaker gavel out with a whole lot of anger, Kelly.

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It went on for a couple of minutes.

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It's really hard to disagree with the foundational

intellectual argument that he's making there.

And I think that is true.

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clip about Donald Trump and the administration talking about banning soda and candy sales in certain circumstances.

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Now, I am not healthy at all.

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My house is basically like Willy Wonka's chocolate factory at this point.

Round every corner, I'm starting to make furniture out of chocolate again.

And look, I'm fine with all of that.

It is a supplemental nutrition program, though.

This is supposed to help people who don't have enough money for food get the food that they need to survive.

It's not supposed to be

Willy Wonka's chocolate factory.

You know, if you're going to be on one of these programs, it's not the job of the program to make you have every desire that you imagine.

It's supposed to be just the basics.

You know, go back and read Ben Franklin's quote about doing good for the poor.

How do you do that?

The more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provide for themselves and, of course, become poorer.

And on the contrary, the less that is done for them, the more they did for themselves and they became richer.

It shouldn't be a situation where we are subsidizing every delicious item on the shelves.

It's supposed to be basic nutrition, and you want to make it healthy?

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