EXCLUSIVE: Gabbard Confirms WORST Fears about Deep State | Guests: Sen. Mike Lee & Mark Levin | 7/31/25

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Glenn spoke with Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard to get some exclusive insight on the "burn bags" found by FBI Director Kash Patel, the Russiagate conspiracy, and the deep-state rot that still exists in our government. Glenn and Tulsi also discuss the threat of Antifa and whether the group will be designated as a terrorist organization. Does Tulsi share some of the fears expressed by Dan Bongino after seeing how our government has been operating? Glenn and Stu react to President Trump accusing Nancy Pelosi of insider trading and Pelosi's reaction during an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper. BlazeTV host Mark Levin joins to discuss his new book, "On Power," which dives into what happens when power lands in the wrong hands. Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) joins to discuss why the Senate must confirm all of Trump's nominees before going on recess. Glenn and Stu discuss the recent violent outburst that occurred outside a music festival in Cincinnati. What caused such a violent attack to happen in the first place? Glenn and Stu play a game based on Kamala Harris' recent announcement regarding her California gubernatorial candidacy. Who would be worse as governor of California: Kamala or Gavin Newsom?

Editor's note: We misspoke in Tulsi Gabbard's interview and said Brennan had lawyered up, when in fact it was Clapper. Brennan has been advised to lawyer up. We regret the error and hope Brennan takes the advice.
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Hello and welcome.

It is Thursday.

We have Tulsi Gabbard coming up in just a second, an in-depth interview with her on what's coming, what's happening, and

justice, quite honestly.

Tulsi Gabbard joins me in just a couple of minutes.

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All right.

Tulsi Gabbard.

Hi, Tulsi.

How are you?

I'm good.

It's great to see you.

Good to see you.

First of all, how's everything in Hawaii?

We prayed for you and everybody in Hawaii.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thankfully, the tsunami passed without any real damage.

I was talking to my folks and friends and family there late last night here on the East Coast and just trying to help make sure everyone was prepared.

for the worst, which is what you have to do.

It looked like it was going to be quite potentially very damaging.

They were looking at one to three meter waves, essentially like 10 foot waves.

Horrible.

That, you know, in any respect is kind of a, that's a tough day in the ocean, but for a tsunami, that would have been disastrous.

And so again, thankfully everyone is safe and

minimal effect.

So let's go into what has been released and what is still yet to come.

You know, as I look at the stuff that has, you know, in the declassified documents of Russia Gate,

It confirms what many of us have already known.

Are you surprised at anything, at the media not reporting any of this?

I mean, we've known a lot of this, but now the media is absolutely silent on it.

And people seem to be deleting posts and no longer commenting online.

What's happening?

Yes.

I am not surprised that the mainstream media is refusing to cover this.

And if they do mention it,

their approach is to try to

diminish the effect and the impact of the revelations, the historic revelations that were found in the documents that we declassified and released.

or to try to bring voice to detractors and critics who also just say, oh, well, this is bizarre or this is crazy.

But when you actually look at the coverage and you look at some of the comments and the quotes that the mainstream media may be choosing to publish or highlight, they're not actually getting after the very specific pieces of evidence that were released that, quote, people like John Brennan, who was the CIA director, and James Clapper, who was Obama's director of national intelligence,

they are not giving voice to the intelligence professionals who, in these reports that we released, were protesting against the very malicious actions that people like Brennan and Clapper

were taking at President Obama's direction to create this intelligence assessment that was filled with falsehoods.

They're not giving voice to these intelligence professionals because they recognize that it would push forward a very inconvenient truth for the mainstream media because it exposes their complicity in pushing this lie and this hoax from not only day one, but throughout President Trump's entire first administration.

And all of these people are still, I mean, Brennan, Clapper,

they have been the source on so many things and they're in with the media.

And I wonder if this is just part of more of the same that they're asking them, is there anything to this?

And they say, no, there's not.

In fact, it's whatever.

And then I also wonder,

how many people are you surrounded by that are still part of that old system?

It's a good question.

As we are finding these documents, going through them, declassifying and releasing them, we are learning more about who is actually directly involved and implicated in this.

We're learning more about who may have been in the room and who was loudly protesting against it, recognizing how wrong it was.

We have whistleblowers coming forward with their own documentation of their protests and their unwillingness to go along with this.

So, yes, there are people who are still working within the intelligence community who had a hand in this.

As we are identifying them,

it will give us the opportunity to make sure that they and others like them, who, again, are so willing to weaponize intelligence to subvert the will of the American people, can no longer work in the intelligence community.

So, Devin Nunes, Cash Patel, all these guys were in the last time Trump was in.

This was produced in the last administration.

Why wasn't this, why didn't this come out then?

You know, it's a good question and it's an obvious one.

I can't speak for those who were there at that time, but I've asked some of these same questions and they were facing, I can't speak for all of them, but for Devon, for example, and for Cash, they were up against the deep state in many cases who refused to release these documents.

If you remember, Mike Pompeo was President Trump's, I think he was his first CIA director, followed by Gina Haspel.

I was told Gina Haspel refused to release these documents.

So again, the more that

we find in the documentation as whistleblowers come forward, I think the story will continue to be told about what actually happened and why it is that here we are in 2025.

And again, this won't surprise many people who've been following this story very closely for years,

but the fact that we have documented evidence and proof is the thing that matters both to shine a light on the truth that this wasn't something that

was in someone's imagination or concocted, but I think even most importantly, that can drive towards accountability.

So, Fox News had an exclusive that said Cash Patel found thousands of sensitive documents related to the origins of the Trump-Russia probe buried in multiple burn bags in secret rooms inside the Bureau.

What's a burn bag?

A burn bag is something that you'll find in many offices throughout the intelligence community,

throughout these different workspaces in national security.

Basically, if I have a document that's highly classified, I read it, I review it, I'm done with it.

My copy can then go in the burn bag to make sure that it's not, it doesn't end up in the wrong hands, that there's not an unauthorized disclosure of classified information.

It's a very different story, however, if you use a burn bag to try to get rid of evidence of which maybe there is only one copy of, and then hide it in a secret room in the FBI.

That is a tactic, obviously, that has been used by those deep staters, these bad actors within the intelligence community to try to get rid of evidence.

Another tactic that's often used is

over-classifying information.

This is what happened with the Steele dossier.

This was already widely publicized as a discredited document.

But what John Brennan did and James Clapper did as the CIA director and Obama's director of national intelligence, they didn't want anybody to know that they used the Steele dossier as a source for this intelligence assessment that was filled with falsehoods they published in January of 2017, as well as other really, really shoddy intelligence sources that would not be acceptable any to be used on any topic because because they were not deemed credible they wanted to hide all of this from members of Congress perhaps who were reading this and the American people and President Trump then President-elect Trump at that time and so they they over classified it in a way that there were less than 10 people who could access it and then they locked up the only hard copy documents.

This document did not exist

on digits.

The document that actually exposed, this was the document that we released.

They locked that document up and the five copies that existed in a safe.

And the first time it had been seen, certainly in public, but even by many within the government, was when we released it about a week ago.

Sunday, John Radcliffe said that there's more declassification of intelligence coming out that shows how deep this went.

He said it's stunning.

Any idea on the timeline of that?

It's going through the declassification process right now.

I expect it to be released very soon.

I think the document will speak for itself.

And once again, it will, I think, confirm what a lot of people have already known to be true, but it'll connect a lot of the dots that

have not been revealed in public before.

Are you sensing with, I mean, let's see, Mark Elias

stopped posting on X.

Brennan has lawyered up.

John Kerry has made his account private.

Peter Strzok deleted his entire X history.

Are you sensing they feel the walls are closing in?

In my view, that's the only way that I can read this situation.

Those who are truly innocent would not be taking those kinds of actions.

And once again, this is why it's so important to declassify this information, to get the truth out,

because

it's something that for anyone who is mildly objective is irrefutable and undeniable and can be used and is currently being reviewed by the Department of Justice to bring about accountability for those involved.

We were talking before we went on the air and

I said, you know, I'm really, I'm struggling with my job right now

because I don't, I don't,

it at times doesn't seem like it, it's worth it, it makes any difference at all because I don't know what I believe in.

I don't know what's true anymore, Tulsi.

I don't know, you know, I can't sit here and on the air and talk about problems if there's not a solution.

It feels insane.

It feels insane.

I keep doing the same thing over and over again, beating the head against the wall and saying, look, here's proof, here's proof, here's proof, and nothing happens.

Do you sense that?

Do you think the people around you understand how

what danger the country is in right now because they just don't believe there's justice on any front?

Well, first, Glenn, let me just tell you how important your voice is.

I think the first, I'm serious, I'm not just patronizing you.

It is your voice and voices like yours where you have the ability to reach and impact people from all political stripes, different backgrounds, different walks of life across the country

who are not paying as close attention.

I'm just going to keep talking.

We're not paying as close attention to these things in the way that you and your team are.

And your ability to communicate first,

the first challenge and opportunity is to be be able to communicate to the American people why they should care about this at all.

What the implications of what we have released and exposed truly are, not just for President Trump, not just for Republicans or for Democrats, but for the integrity of our Democratic Republic and the tactics that are being used by the deep state and have been used in order to, in this case, essentially subvert the will of the American people because

President Obama and his cohort were not happy that President Trump got elected.

So the first thing is being able to really communicate clearly the implications of this on our republic.

The second piece of this, yes, it is the accountability piece.

And I understand the frustration.

But our system is set up in the way that it is by our visionary founding fathers.

What we have to do is fulfill our duty, focused on the Constitution,

and providing this mechanism for

accountability to take place and doing what the American people really have done best since the founding of our country, which is recognizing the power in each of our voices to make sure that we are calling for that necessary action to begin to restore that trust.

I'm sure you can relate.

I mean,

Dan Bongino posted a cryptic message on X the other day.

I read it.

Yeah, he said, it shocked me.

What I found out

at my time at the FBI has shocked me down to the core.

We cannot run a republic like this, and I'll never be the same after learning what I've learned.

I'm not expecting you to answer for him, but have you felt that way when you've gotten

being there?

I have seen up close and personal the tactics that are used by those who care more for themselves, their ambition, their job, their influence, their political interests,

their selfish, self-serving interests than they care about the Constitution.

That every single one of these law enforcement and intelligence community professionals swear an oath, just like I have both in uniform and the military and as a member of Congress and as Director of National Intelligence to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

This is why what we are doing matters so much.

So yes, I have my own frustrations, trust me, but my resolve is focused

and is rooted in my love for our country and my belief in the values and principles that our country was founded upon, and therefore the responsibility that I carry to do something about that which we are revealing, that which I am seeing and experiencing firsthand.

It is a heavy responsibility, but it's also an awesome one, and I spend every day doing my best to fulfill it.

You know, we've talked before, and I've said to you, you are in the second most dangerous job, I think, in the nation.

You know, President Trump is in the most dangerous job in the nation.

And I think, you know, you're working around some, you know, people that do this kind of stuff for a living.

And we pray for your safety every night.

I'm going to continue the conversation with Tulsi Gabbard

in a minute.

And I'm going to switch, you know, last night I did a TV show that

is on fire right now.

And it basically is showing you the connections

to the radicals that are on the street.

And in the show,

I said, you know,

why hasn't Antifa been

deemed a terrorist organization yet?

I mean, how are these guys not arrested?

How are we not investigating them for terror?

Because that's what they're trying to do.

They're trying to change political

leanings, you know, change the country's policies or change politics here through fear and intimidation and violence.

That's the definition of terror.

We're going to pick it up with Tulsi on that

here in just a second.

Let me say hello to Stu.

Hi, Stu.

Glenn, how are you?

Very good.

Very good.

Tulsi

laying it out for us this morning.

Yes, she is.

Yeah.

Can't wait to see you.

What Stu is saying here is he got very little sleep last night

and

he really hasn't paid attention to a word that anybody has been saying for probably maybe two hours since he's been up.

Yeah, yeah.

I would say that's the best summary of my day so far.

But that's okay.

That's why Tulsi's carrying the show.

You know,

she's bringing you certainly don't look to you to carry the show.

No, definitely not.

And that's advisable.

Again, you're in the Radio Hall of Fame for a reason, making judgments just like that.

Congratulations.

All right, back with Tulsi Gebbert on terror and Antifa coming up in just a second.

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Back to our Tulsi Gabbard interview.

Let me switch subjects here for just a second.

Last night I did a show on

the

really the coming insurrection,

the

cabal of socialists and Islamists and anarchists that are looking to destabilize and overthrow the Western world.

And it's clear that's what's happening right now.

And in the middle of the show, I wondered why hasn't Antifa been labeled a terror organization yet?

Why aren't we going after people for terror?

Is this not terror what they're trying to do?

Yeah, it's funny you should mention that because

I released several documents back in May that really laid out the foundational documents and strategy that the Biden administration used in labeling groups and individuals as domestic violent extremists.

You remember this.

Yeah, hell yeah.

And, you know, it was like, hey, if parents are angry or worried that their kids may get the COVID vaccine at school without their approval, they may be a potential domestic violent extremist.

You know, we had the radical traditionalist Catholics, the then FBI under Obama.

I mean, these are examples of what they did, but what was also interesting was how they diminished Antifa under the Biden administration, downplaying the threat that they posed, again, to the safety and security of our communities.

The thing that really you really touched on and pointed to

that doesn't get focused on often enough is the ideology that's driving these groups who do pose a direct threat to the fabric of our country and to the safety and security of the American people.

I mean, they don't seem to be afraid of anything.

They've never really paid a price.

Nobody even names them

and really says what they are and what they're doing.

I talked to a guy who used to be in kind of the world you live in now.

And I said, can we even win this fight without naming naming it?

And he said,

we can, but not the way we're fighting.

He said, they fight day and night.

We fight sometimes during the day.

We have to be nighttime fighters as well.

I didn't want to ask him exactly what he meant by that,

but

would you agree with that?

I do.

I think being very vigilant and being very clear-eyed about, again, the ideology that's driving a lot of these people who are here within our country,

who are directly working against, again, the Constitution, the founding principles of our country,

and really the American way of life.

There has to be more of a focus, for example, on those who run around the streets

chanting pro-Hamas mantras and calls for intifada and action.

You know, there's those who are disturbing the peace.

Okay, sure.

But again, it's the ideology that's driving these individuals

that is quite dangerous.

One last question, kind of going back to what we were talking about, as we're talking about these extremists, I see people, you know, the CEO of United Healthcare was shot.

Everybody, you know, 40% of you think that that was great.

If you go, if Pam Bondi actually goes and charges these people, you know that the press is going to say, see, this is the weaponization of government.

And they're going to flip the script entirely.

And a lot of people will believe that because the media will carry all of that water.

How concerned are we about the reaction of the left on the streets with every move that Donald Trump makes, every move like this?

Does that play a role?

Should it play a role in how we proceed?

We have to stand strong for the the truth.

We have to stand strong for justice and the Constitution and for freedom.

These are things that many of these bad actors here, frankly, don't believe in.

The mainstream media will do what they do.

I think there is a positive here in that

fewer and fewer people actually read the mainstream media, fewer people actually believe in them.

I just saw CNN and MSNBC's viewership numbers from the last week absolutely abysmal.

There is a rise of viewers and listeners who are tuning into shows like yours and to different podcasts and the new media that really represents more, not just people with one view, but really represents real authentic dialogue and conversation versus the filtered

agenda-filled narrative that the mainstream media pushes.

Tulsi,

I'm glad we're friends.

I'm glad I know you.

I'm glad I live at a time where someone like you can serve.

The fact that you were a Democrat,

that you switched when you did,

and that you have always approached everything that I've ever seen you in with the same attitude that you approached your oath for service to the military.

And that gives me hope.

So thank you for everything you've done.

I appreciate your friendship, Glenn.

And

we must be filled with hope

because God is love, and in God's love is where we find hope.

And it's in times like this where we lean on our faith in God's love and in knowing that if we do our best to fulfill his will, then things will work out as he has planned.

Amen.

Amen.

Thank you, Tulsi.

God bless.

Thank you.

You too.

Tulsi Gabbard.

I really like her.

Yeah, I do too.

I do too.

I mean, I don't agree with her on everything, but neither do I.

But I like the fact that you don't have to.

You know what I mean?

Your comment there at the end, I think, was

how I would describe it, too.

It's like she just seems to take this seriously, care about the country rather than herself.

And, you know, even when she takes her oath

seriously.

Yeah.

You know, you know, she's willing.

I mean, she could have gotten out of her service, you know, easily,

you know, and, you know, done other things.

And she continues to serve,

and she serves honorably, and she is a fighter, but doesn't believe in war, except when it's absolutely necessary.

I mean,

I really respect her, really respect her.

There's not a lot of politicians like her.

I wouldn't even put her in a, would you put her in the category of a political?

I mean, she is a congresswoman, right?

I know, but she just doesn't seem like it.

You know,

she is as far away from a Nancy Pelosi kind of politician as you can get.

Yeah.

Who would you take more seriously?

Would it be like her or Eric Swalwell?

If you had to come down to one, it's a tough one.

That's a tough one.

It is a tough one.

By the way, Trump was talking about Nancy Pelosi and insider trading yesterday.

Can you play cut 19, please?

Here's Trump on Nancy Pelosi.

Senator Colley introduced legislation that would ban members of Congress from owning or trading individual stocks that expense to the president and vice president.

Are you in favor of that legislation?

Well, I like it conceptually.

I don't know about it, but I like it conceptually.

And, you know, Nancy Pelosi became rich by having inside information.

She made a fortune with her husband, and I think that's disgraceful.

So in that sense, I'd like it, but I'd have to really see the...

You know, I study these things very carefully, and this just happened.

So I'll take a look at it.

But conceptually, I like it.

And what I do think is Nancy Pelosi should be investigated because she has the highest return of anybody practically in the history of Wall Street save a few

and

how did that happen it happened by she knows exactly what's going to happen what's going to be announced she buys stock and then the stock goes up after the announcement's made and she ought to be investigated

now Jake Tapper was talking to Nancy Pelosi yesterday and here's what happened having some sort of

yeah but

let me just read what he said I'm sorry that we had some sort of technical issue Nancy Pelosi became rich Why do you have to read that?

We're here to talk about the 60th anniversary of Medicaid.

That's what I agreed to come to talk about.

And what that means in the election.

I wanted to give you a chance just to respond.

He accused you of insider trading.

What's your response to that?

That's ridiculous.

In fact, I very much support the stop the trading of members of Congress.

Not that I think anybody's doing anything wrong.

If they are, they are prosecuted and they go to jail.

But because of the confidence it instills in the American people, don't worry about this.

But I have no concern about the obvious investments that have been made over time.

I'm not into it.

My husband is, but it isn't anything to do with anything insider.

But the president has his own exposure, so he's always projecting.

He's always projecting.

And let's not give him any more time on that, please.

We are going forward here, and I'm very proud of my family.

And while he might make fun of us, while somebody inspired by him breaks into our home and hits my husband in a definite fashion, hits my husband over the head, and he thinks that's a riot.

I'd rather not go into some of my other complaints about him right now.

Rather to talk about the 60th anniversary of Nedic.

I mean, this is amazing.

This is amazing.

And Nancy, you should not use the word riot in any way.

You should not use the word riot.

Like, her husband is the greatest trader in the history of Wall Street.

Seriously, impressive.

I mean, just an amazing investor.

Almost, it seems almost clairvoyant in a way.

Yeah.

Like, there's a bunch of accounts that follow her trades.

There's one, I can't remember who it is, but they do an actual like index.

Like, they'll tell you who they trade.

You can go and buy and like replicate her trades.

And you're, you know, way, way, way ahead of the SP 500 if you're doing that.

There's this one example though that uh from a few months ago she bought some options uh on uh

one ai company uh and was up uh 330 in a month

wow now that's impressive that's impressive but uh over and over again she continues to just call these things man she is just no no no her husband does she is she's not even into it she's not even into it she's not even into it she's not even into it she doesn't talk about it she doesn't even know about it she doesn't share anything with her husband husband.

He is just, he's a miracle.

He's a miracle investor.

So, you know, you got that going for you.

It is ridiculous.

And it's been basically legal

for these people to do this.

I don't know why she's denying anything.

There's nothing illegal about it.

That's the whole point of the bill.

To make it illegal.

To make it illegal.

And to say, you know, he projects, oh my gosh, I can't even take it.

Really?

The debt that the Republicans project what they're doing.

Huh.

That's.

In a way, that's her projecting.

Her accusing the other side of projecting is her projecting.

Kind of.

Kind of.

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So Sidney Sweeney, American Eagle,

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I guess now Dunkin' Donuts

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Look, I didn't ask to be the king of summer.

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This tan, genetics.

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Literally.

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So sipping these refreshers makes me the king of summer.

Guilty is charged.

the golden where's this where's this where's the sydney sweeney that was a much better ad

in theory it's almost the exact same ad except just a dude

no it's really not no no it's really not

i just have weird

what is a weird ad i don't know what what are we supposed to take is that supposed to be i mean is that that's i guess it's a just ripoff of her trying to oh is is it like a parody type of thing?

Or is it just they just have not?

It's just a really,

I mean, is it a coincidence that they both are exactly this?

I mean, almost exactly the same and they they talk about genes.

I don't know.

That's a good question.

Why would they

you think that they would I mean, it's not an obvious parody,

so it would be an odd choice to just like

to make.

Well, maybe it's Dunkin' Donuts.

So Dunkin' Donuts couldn't afford a really big, big idea admin.

Their admin's like, I don't know,

here's an idea.

We talk about jeans.

I mean, their ad campaign for about 20 years was a guy saying, time to make the donuts.

It's probably that guy coming up with the ad.

There's like, hey, what if we do an ad campaign where we show our employees are miserable?

What about that?

What if we show our employees are abused and they don't get any sleep and we force them in at all hours to make donuts for people who show up.

See, that's weird.

You see this as, you saw that as an employee.

I always saw that as the owner of Dunkin' Donuts.

And maybe it's because I grew up in a bakery because that was my dad.

Every day he'd be like, I got to go make donuts.

They never sleep.

They never sleep.

No.

Yeah.

But, you know,

that's the right thing.

You know, when it comes to capitalism.

And donuts.

Thank God.

Serve us donuts.

That's the most important thing.

Yeah, I don't care if you sleep or not.

Individuals.

Are the damn donuts?

Yeah, exactly.

Are they fresh and hot now?

Sidney Sweeney is.

What is that?

I don't even understand that.

And so is that gentleman with the golden hour refresher.

He is.

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Mark Levin, how are you, sir?

Well, how are you, brother?

I'm good.

Thank you.

Yeah, good.

Congratulations on the new book on power.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

It was either that or on drugs.

So I decided to write on power.

No, I don't do drugs.

Just kidding.

No, I know you don't do drugs, but I have seriously considered going back on drugs with everything that's happening in the world, quite honestly.

I get it.

You know, it's weird, Mark, because we're in

the best of times, the worst of times.

Some of the stuff that is happening in the country with Trump is

stunning.

Never thought it would happen in my lifetime.

And then other things that are happening, I'm like, I give up.

I just give up.

You feel that way?

Well, I'm going to tell you something.

I'm sitting here.

I just wrote a one sentence that I'm going to post because I've been thinking about this.

And I'm posting, shockingly, Jews are safe in only about a dozen countries in 2025.

That's it.

Maybe not even a dozen, maybe a half a dozen.

The United States and Israel, of course, but Argentina and Hungary and a few others.

But if you look what's happening in Western Europe today, this is why I've said this October 7th slaughter in Israel, isn't it funny?

None of those videos are shown on cable or network TV.

They're so horrific.

We watch the Holocaust black and white films, right?

And we see the

mass graves and we see all the horrors.

And yet this was so horrible because the Hamas Palestinians, what they did in open, and they were so proud of what they were doing to other human beings, they videotaped it.

The Nazis tried to cover up what they did.

These people videotaped it.

And you won't see it on TV and you won't see it on radio, excuse me, and you won't see it on networks.

And I think this is a big problem.

I do too.

You know, I tried to convince.

I'm sure you did too.

I tried to convince the Israelis, release this, because I saw it in a closed session, you know, because it's so disturbing.

And they're like, no, no, no, we don't want to.

And I think they should.

The families don't want them to.

The families don't want them to.

But I've gone to, I won't mention different networks, and I said, it's on the internet.

You don't need the Israelis' permission.

Just run it.

They said, we can't.

It's so horrendous.

I said, that's the point.

Exactly right.

They won't.

They won't.

You know,

when I was at CNN and Fox, they both had a deal.

I don't know if they still do, but you could not play the World Trade Center

footage without special permission.

They came from the top, both networks.

You could play it on September 11th, but other than that, you needed special permission and you needed a reason to show it.

It was under lock and key.

They did not want to show that.

I found that fascinating.

I did show it last month.

Sorry.

I got special permission.

Yeah, well, it may have changed.

I mean, it may have changed.

It's been 10 years.

So talk to me about on power.

Why did you write this?

I'll tell you what.

I was in bed like two and a half months from this injury I had on my leg staring at the ceiling.

And, you know, I'm kind of a nerd, so I was thinking about history and the revolution and stuff.

And

I got to think, you know, we're discussing this stuff, despite all your books and mine and all our talk about these things, which are very important.

I'm not dismissing it.

I'm saying

I got to thinking, really, what was the Revolutionary War about?

It was about power.

power, which kind of government we're going to have, whether we're going to have representative government, taxation without representation.

In fact, what is the battle today about with the Marxists and the Islamists versus we, the Americans?

It's about power.

So we talk about individuality.

We talk about we as the sovereign.

And I feel if we get this straight and we start to talk about it more,

ideas do matter.

Ideas run the world.

We can push this agenda with a lot of people.

So my listeners, your listeners, our audiences,

explain how America was founded.

America was founded completely differently than any country on the face of the earth.

That's why we're a great nation.

And why?

Talk about negative power and positive power.

What's the difference?

Right.

So I break it down into negative power and other positive power.

Look, positive power, if you look at the Declaration and actually understand it as you do, as most of our audience does, you understand positive power is the belief in the Judeo-Christian value system fused with the Enlightenment.

That's your Declaration of Independence.

How do we know?

Because Jefferson told us.

Others told us.

So God's sovereign.

On earth, his children, we are the sovereign.

Eternal rights, natural law.

God is mentioned in different ways four times in the Declaration.

Now, you don't have to believe in God.

You don't have to believe in anything.

But this is how our country was formed, and a good damn thing it was, because that's why it's such a fantastic country that doesn't believe in all this centralized power in the hand of a few demigods.

And so when it's fused with the Enlightenment, where Montesquieu and others talked about power checking power, that's key.

When you listen to the Bernie Sanders, when you listen to what I call the American Marxists, they're about the accumulation of power.

You talked about Dershwitz.

I haven't read his book.

I don't know what it's about.

But it's power.

It's power used by central government.

That's what Marxism is about, fascism is about.

Talk about Islamism.

Islamism is about centralization of power.

It's about killing other Muslims who don't agree with the seventh century barbarians who've never gone through the Reformation, who reject the Enlightenment, and who view anybody that's in their way must be destroyed.

But as for the means, the Marxists and the Islamists, their goal right now is to overthrow the West.

And we see it in our country.

And look, they've basically succeeded in Europe.

Europe is now

basically an Islamist front.

And that's why, for instance, they're all getting together now.

We need to have a Palestinian state.

What the hell does that mean?

What does it mean?

It means who's going to run this state?

Where's their Mahatma Gandhi?

Who's their Martin Luther King?

I keep saying, I want to interview this great peacemaker.

Who is it?

And what are their boundaries?

And

I explain over and over again.

Jews today are safe in a handful of countries.

And that's it.

And it's pretty frightening because The people who hate the Jews hate the evangelical Christians.

My closest friends are evangelical Christians.

One of the groups I work with, Christians United for Israel, they are stunned at the attacks that they are taking as an organization, as evangelical Christians.

How many Christians are left in the Middle East?

Almost none.

Almost none.

You have Coptic Christians in Egypt.

They're under constant attack.

Nobody ever talks about them.

Christians being slaughtered in Africa, in Nigeria, in the Congo, in the Sudan.

How come nobody's holding any meetings about that?

Nobody.

China's wiping out the Christians as well as the Uyghurs and the Tibetans.

Nobody's talking about that.

And in the West, if you want to stand up for Christianity and your faith against Islamism and the Palestinians, you're going to jail.

So

these faiths, which undergird our society, the freest society, the greatest society ever formed by mankind, they're under attack, as is the Enlightenment and the belief system and limited government.

That's the book.

Are you

can you explain how we have gone

so rapidly down

this dark path of

Marxism and hand in hand with real anti-Semitism?

I mean, you know, it's one thing to be and say, I don't want to fight and I don't want to be involved in anybody's war and I want to hold everybody responsible, but I don't hear the same people coming after Israel, coming after Russia and saying, where's the aid for the people in Russia?

For the people in Ukraine.

It's striking to me, and it's something I talked about, you know, the ADL said about me 10, 15 years ago that I was an anti-Semite for saying that this kind of stuff was coming, because it always comes with

Marxism.

But even I'm stunned at how deep it is running now in our country.

It's deep because it's revolution by immigration, including in parts of our country.

The Islamic scholars, oh, 40, 50 years ago, talked about the need for Islamists to conquer the world through immigration because the West is weak.

And you see what's happened to our country, took four years.

It's happened to France.

France has been conquered.

You know, the head rabbi in France told the Jews to get out, that there's no way to survive here.

You look at London right now.

London is headed by an Islamist.

Many of the major cities and medium-sized cities in London, even though Muslims are about 15, 20% now the population, which is astounding when you think about it, they are the mayors too.

And again, I'm not talking about Muslims who've gone through Reformation, the Zudhi Jassers and so forth.

I am talking about the Islamists.

And you know what?

It doesn't take a majority of a faith or majority of a people

to destroy a country or to destroy a faith.

It doesn't.

All these revolutions, Maos, Lenin, and all, these weren't the majorities overthrowing their society.

They were minorities overthrowing their societies.

And the fact of the matter is, it's that.

It's academia.

This is where you get Marxism from.

These faculty hire the faculty.

Marxism was exported to the United States out of Germany.

Islamism has been exported to the United States out of the Middle East.

These are not homegrown theories.

These are very alien.

And yet, they've taken over our culture.

They certainly have.

They're not at war with the government per se.

They're at war with society.

It's worse.

They're They're destroying the civil society.

That's what they mean by fundamental transformation.

I explain all this in the book.

The way they use language, again, I divide it into positive and negative power.

So I look at the ancients.

I get into faith.

But I'm not a proselytizer.

You know, I'm not an expert on faith, but I'm an expert on the founding.

And faith was very, very important.

And again, people don't have to have any faith, but you can thank...

Thank the good Lord that we had the founders that we did, that created the nation that we did.

This is all under attack.

You'll notice the Bernie Sanders and his hilt, they never talk about the Declaration.

They hate it.

Woodrow Wilson, as you know, hated it.

In fact, Marx mocked it.

Individual rights, they reject individuality as selfish.

It's impossible to have the commune and so forth.

So I go through their techniques, I go through their language, and I make the point.

You cannot have freedom without rights.

Freedom means nothing without rights.

And you don't have rights without power.

Rights mean mean nothing to.

One of the greatest constitutions ever written was Stalin's 1936 Constitution.

Scalia talked about this.

But you don't have freedom and rights.

He had all the power.

It was all BS.

Same thing with this Mandami about affordability and their language and what they use.

Wokeism is a way to control thought and control language.

The attack on the nuclear family, Marx writes about that in the Communist Manifesto, all status quo,

all social arrangements must be destroyed.

There must be a blank slate.

So the Marxists can step in or the Islamists can step in.

Now, I know people will say, well, Islam and Marxism, you know, Marxism says no God and Islam they say God.

That's not the point.

The point is Islam is about conformity and control and manipulation, the radical Islam,

just like the Marxists.

They get along great, hand in glove.

Until one of them

is fighting just as

the other.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

You know, I just spoke to Alan Dershowitz about his book called The Preventive State.

And I don't agree with Alan Dershowitz on a lot of things.

But his theory on this, I think, is right.

He doesn't make any conclusions and it doesn't say which is the right way to go.

He just says, this is what's coming our way.

We are going to become more and more of a larger state saying, oh, we've got to protect.

We have to protect.

We have to prevent this.

We have to prevent that.

And he's just asking, is this what you want?

Is this, you know, we should be asking these things now.

And I think your book is the

answer to his.

He's saying, here's what's coming our way.

Is that what you want?

And your book is saying, here's what you actually want and why.

And that's right.

And what I do

with this word power.

I mean, think about this word power.

It's really,

it's an all-powerful word.

What does it mean?

And

this is the struggle of humanity.

Who controls what?

Now I don't get into psychology and families and social arrangements and all.

I mean, think about it in the workplace.

Think about it at home.

Think about it among whatever you do.

It's always at play.

And the same applies when you're talking about government.

What's government?

Government is an entity

in which people manage themselves.

And so who gets to manage us?

Do we get to manage ourselves?

And what I'm saying, and I don't know what Alan has written, but what I'm saying is we're in a very bad trajectory.

We are in a little rescue right now with a very historic and iconic president, but he's not going to be president forever.

And I don't know that the Republicans comprehend what you and I are talking about either.

I don't know.

No, they don't.

They don't.

Not at all.

When the Democrats come in, they make permanent changes.

Permanent changes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Mark, thank you so much.

I know we got to cut you loose, but thank you for spending time with us today, and good luck with the book.

You know, you and I got to talk more often.

I love talking to you.

I know.

I love talking to you too.

You know what?

I'm moving to Florida.

We're going to be neighbors.

Where?

Well, I better not say,

but will you shoot me an email?

I will.

I certainly will.

I'd love to see you.

Love to see you.

All right, brother.

Thanks.

Take care of yourself.

You bet.

God bless you.

Bye-bye.

I'm more than happy to give the address out.

I don't know why.

Thank you, Stu.

I appreciate it.

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You know, it is really amazing.

You know, in the special that I did last night, the Wednesday night special, it was all about,

God, I just looked up and look who's on TV on MSNBC.

Clapper.

I can't believe these guys are still interviewing these criminals and still believing them.

Anyway, I did this show on TV last night

about

the cabal.

I mean, we are seeing in real time, literally seeing right now, and you can point your finger to it and prove it, that that chalkboard I gave so many years ago that, you know, I was like, I will put it on my tombstone if I have to.

And everybody was pushing back.

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That is exactly what is happening.

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it seems as though the entire West is asleep.

It seems as though the entire West really just, how many people do you talk to that

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You know what I mean?

Actually talk about that stuff.

Or when you do talk it to them,

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Frog.

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This is legitimately like what it's like to go to a barbecue with glenn beck like that's the conversation you have with him you're like hey there's a race i don't have a lot of friends yes great to see me in the middle of this world we're boiling jump out frog

Can you pass the potato salad?

Oh.

That's essentially the life.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you.

It is.

It's tough because we just talked about this, I think, yesterday and saying that like a lot of it feels like you can't do anything about it.

I feel like there's more and more of my friends that I'm talking about that are tuning out from

the second to second, moment to moment.

And you know what?

There's, I get that.

I really do get that.

You know, that's what we just had Tulsi on about an hour ago.

And I, I said to her, you know,

it was great to have all this stuff, but I don't believe in this stuff anymore.

I don't believe in justice.

When somebody is brought up and stands in front of a judge and you make an actual case whether they're pro whether they're proven or found guilty or not

I just want to see people stand and be held accountable and when I see that maybe I'll have some faith in the system again but right now I don't have any faith and so it's it's like I gotta you have to pay attention to what's going on but it's really hard to care but beyond the corruption stuff How do you not see society crumbling?

Forget about the government.

Civil society crumbling.

We have to talk about that, the beating in Cincinnati.

We talked about it earlier this week.

But have you seen the latest on what the city councilwoman said and the reaction to that?

No, but I'll take the burger medium rare if you would.

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Imagine a barbecue conversation with Glenn Beck and Mike Lee.

Now, there's a barbecue conversation.

Mike's actually really funny.

He is very funny.

Yeah, he's very funny.

Never apparently on the air, but

he's with us now.

Hello, Mike.

Hello.

Good to be with you as always.

And I'm going to try really hard to be funny.

Yeah.

I'm going to try not even to be boring a little.

Yeah, no, it's no, it's always, it's always great when people are trying to be funny, too.

It's just, it's, it's really good.

So, Mike, thanks for being on.

I am so upset with the Senate, so upset with these Republicans.

How many senators, I mean,

how many nominations are sitting on the sidelines that for some reason, our side doesn't want to confirm for the president?

Well, the confirmation backlog is at about 150.

It was at 144 the other day.

We added sticks just from two of the committees I serve on yesterday alone.

So we're somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 right now.

Now, technically speaking, it's not necessarily Republicans don't want to confirm them.

It's just that the Democrats are slowing down the process.

And Republicans, as Republican senators, we now have to decide what we're going to do about it.

Now, some would say, well, it's August.

We've got to go home.

Tomorrow is the first day of August.

People want to be home for August.

I get it.

Washington's not fun this time of year.

And historically, the Senate has recessed at this time of year.

But, you know, sometimes you got to do the job that you signed up for.

And so we can complain all we want about the fact that Senate Democrats have delayed the process.

That's kind of become the job of the opposition party these days in the Senate.

But once they delay and obstruct, it's on us.

If we don't clear the deck, and the way we clear the deck, the only way to clear the deck is through the the tool that we call exhaustion.

You keep them here, you make them vote, including and especially at times that they find inconvenient or undesirable.

This is that time.

So

we need Republican senators

to start saying en masse, we will stay, we insist on staying, to get these nominees voted on.

If it takes us all months, so be it.

It probably won't take that long because people tend to all of a sudden become far more willing to negotiate and compromise when something that they want is on the line, especially when what they want is to get out of Dodge.

Before we go back into politics, tell me who is being held up.

Tell me the consequence of holding these nominees up.

Well, look, many months ago, we got the cabinet confirmed.

And so most of these names are not in super prominent positions that every American is going to be aware of.

These are a combination.

Now, a small handful of them are judges, although we're really just getting started on the judges.

Not many of them are judicial nominees.

Most of them are a combination of ambassadors,

people representing the United States interests abroad as the president's personal representative and their personal representative of the U.S.

government.

They're undersecretaries,

assistant secretaries, division directors within various departments of the U.S.

government.

Now, let me tell you why that matters.

Even though most of these departments aren't that important to most Americans' daily lives, at least insofar as they think about them from day to day, what happens is that with these lower-level positions is where a lot of the work gets done.

And when you don't have a Senate-confirmed political appointee put in place by the President, confirmed by the Senate, guess who runs those departments, those divisions, those agencies?

It's the deep state bureaucrats.

The deep state bureaucratic apparatus, the regulators, the career civil servant

workers who basically can't get fired, they lean overwhelmingly left.

And that is an understatement, if ever there were one.

So this is much different than it would be if Democrats were slowed down by Republicans and they couldn't get all of their nominees through.

Because the default is it's okay.

Democrats are still in charge because they run the deep state apparatus.

We don't have that luxury.

We flip effectively control of the U.S.

government, a huge swath of it, from Republican control, which Americans voted for in November, over to Democrats.

Every day we refuse work decline or fail to do the work necessary to confirm these people into their jobs.

And it's high time we get it done.

Where is Thune on this?

He's, from what I've seen, in favor of holding people.

Is that true or not?

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm always cautious about talking for at college, especially the Senate Majority Leader in public.

But every conversation I've had with him and every conversation I've heard him have in public and in private has been that he's in favor of doing it.

Now, the concern is, and the concern that he and others have expressed is, yeah, but what happens if our people don't show up?

Because

apparently some Republican senators have gone to him and others saying, I won't be there if you have votes in August.

Now, these people aren't.

What's wrong with these all?

Well, I don't know.

I don't know whether they've got planned.

Maybe some of them

have some dire emergency they've got to attend to.

I really don't know because they haven't identified themselves to me or to the public as far as I'm aware.

But

out of 50 people, I'd give that excuse to maybe one of them.

I have a dire emergency.

Everybody else

get to work.

And if you've got a dire emergency, we actually have

kind of a protocol for dealing with that sort of thing.

Either a dire emergency or you've got something like, I don't know,

an immediate family member has died, some immediate family member is getting married, you got to be there.

It's a long-standing practice in the Senate.

When you're in that circumstance, very often you could go and find somebody across the aisle, a member of the other party, and say, hey, I'm going to bind.

I've really got to be in location X.

I'm having a lobotomy tomorrow or I'm under my son's brisk or whatever it is.

Would you be willing to pair your absence with mine?

And more often than not, you can find somebody who's willing to do that.

So that's my point, is that, you know, other than a few things like that, which can be dealt with through paired absence arrangements,

sure, other people may have travel plans, other things they would rather do, international travel or travel around the country, around their state, whatever it is.

But those things can change.

And they can be delayed.

And here I think they must be.

Because, Glenn, if we leave, if we leave, if we recess as has long been planned, you know, by tomorrow, if we recess for the entire month of August, we'll come back.

These 150 nominees will still be here.

And you know what?

We're adding to that backlog at a rate of, I don't know, 10 or 15 new nominees per week as more nominees get moved out.

If we were just to have these, if these were the only people we had to confirm, it would still take us until probably late April.

of 2026 just to get this current slate confirmed.

But by then, Glenn, we'll have another 200 or so that we've got to confirm.

That eats into our ability to do everything, to confirm others, to confirm judges, of which there will be a lot more in the coming months, and even to get our legislative work done, because then we're stuck on these executive nomination votes.

That's why that time

clear the backlog is now

got to happen now.

How many of these are

U.S.

attorneys?

There are a number of them who are U.S.

attorneys.

I wish I had the breakdown of exactly how many fall into which category, but we got a bunch of U.S.

attorneys who were in this group, and U.S.

attorneys

play a very important role.

I have to tell you, Mike,

I just had Tulsi on about an hour ago, and I said to her, You know, the people in Washington understand the crisis of confidence the American people have in our government and in justice.

I mean, I've never felt it like this, Mike.

And I don't know if you guys feel it this way as much in

Washington, but you need to.

Your colleagues need to understand they are at the end here of trust.

There's, you know, all this stuff that's coming out.

Oh, this

committee just found this.

And hey, there's these new documents out that show this.

Everybody's like, uh-huh.

And so what?

What are you going to do about it?

Another hearing?

And until things actually start to move.

And the U.S.

attorneys are the key to that.

If we don't have U.S.

attorneys and they haven't been confirmed, you can't get anything done in the justice field.

Yep, that's right.

And this is happening at exactly the same time when a lot of these interim U.S.

attorneys are timing out.

They're allowed to serve in that temporary capacity for a limited period of time.

And under a stupid law enacted decades ago that I have a bill to repeal,

they have federal judges.

in each district who can decide who will replace the interim U.S.

attorney at that point.

That's a barbaric and unconstitutional practice, if ever there were one.

Judicial personnel, naming executive personnel, that's wrong.

So we've got to get this done, Glenn.

And I've talked to the president repeatedly about this, including less than 24 hours ago.

Presidents and Glenn to agree with me, as indicated by, among other things, the post on social media I made over the weekend saying, get this done.

You know, stay in town, get him confirmed, do your job.

He needs it.

The American people expect it.

They demand it.

They voted for this in November.

And it is not appropriate for us to deprive them of that.

And make no mistake, Glenn, if we leave and leave this backlog undone, there will be consequences, there will be harm, and that is on us.

We can blame Democrats all we want.

But when the Democrats delay, as is the prerogative of the opposition party these days, it's just what happens in the Senate.

If they delay and we do nothing to make them pony up for it and show up and vote and do the work to eat the consequences of their delay, This is on us.

By us, I mean Republican senators.

Who are the people that we can nicely call to encourage that are on our side that might be

open to fighting a little harder to get everybody to stay?

Who should we

I don't want to call and be negative because I don't think that works.

But

when people call and say, hey, you know, I know you're on the right side on this.

How can we help you push even harder?

Because there's millions of us out here that want this done.

How can we help you get it done?

Is there anybody, do you think that's effective?

Or what's the most effective approach?

I do, and I like the way you approach that.

And here's what I would suggest in this circumstance.

We've got 53 Republican senators.

If you live in a state where you're represented by a Republican senator, maybe even if you're not, but you think somebody might listen to you, call the office, email

the office, probably call the office of those Republican senators and encourage them to do it.

Stay positive.

Say, I'd really appreciate it if you stayed and cleared the backlog.

We appreciate the other good things that you've done.

We appreciate how hard you work.

And we're confident that you can clear the backlog.

We ask that you do so.

I think that's very helpful because there's not one of those 53 Republican senators who couldn't benefit from that.

We all need to hear that across the board.

Mike, as always, thanks for everything.

Thanks for how hard you're working and standing for the Constitution.

Even though you wanted to put a McDonald's and some sort of coal-fired

energy plant in right smack on top of our national parks.

Well, yeah, and don't forget about the drilling rig and the nuclear reactor.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But that was only in Yellowstone, if I remember.

Exactly.

Yeah, right.

God bless you, Mike.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Senator Mike Lee.

Please, please, please.

Tomorrow is the day.

So call them today.

Mike is exactly right on this.

If we don't get this done,

you want justice?

We cannot get justice without the U.S.

attorneys.

We need the U.S.

attorneys to be installed.

All they have to do is hold a vote on them.

They've got to be installed.

Otherwise, the president doesn't have anybody to investigate, anybody to put the cases together to be able to prosecute them.

We don't have enough people.

Please call your senator.

They go on vacation, possibly tomorrow.

Tell them to stay.

Beg them to stay.

Ask them to stay.

Be nice about it.

Let's try that one, see if that works.

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Some of the things that

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New numbers show a sharp turnaround after a worrisome first quarter.

How big of an improvement is this new report for the U.S.

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Well, Wolf, the headline here is a positive one, one, right?

GDP, the broadest measure of the U.S.

economy, it did rebound in the second quarter.

3%, that is a solid number, and it also beat expectations.

This marks a major improvement from the first quarter when we saw a rare contraction.

Wow.

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3% GDP growth is really good.

I mean,

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You can't trust that.

Totally bogus.

No, I know.

But 3% growth

is a solid number for a quarter.

Let's hope that they continue to grow.

Absolutely.

We're going to know more as we get past some of these tariffs and as they really start to come in.

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Yeah, tomorrow's the day.

Tomorrow's the deadline.

We think.

It does seem like there's rumors of some of them maybe not going into a longer period of delay, but we'll see what happens tomorrow.

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What is happening in Cincinnati is beyond reason.

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but did you see the full footage

of the beatdown in cincinnati

well glenn i only saw one side of the story yeah that's what i was told uh by the police commissioner yeah i know yeah i i saw i you know these the clips you were showing now here on blaze tv is what i saw so i saw i saw this part can we play the audio a bit start from the beginning um i saw this part now

What the police commissioner was saying is that,

or the police chief, is that you just don't know.

You don't know what happened prior to,

but I want you to listen.

Listen, look at this.

I mean, just

pummeling this guy

and I can't tell that

stuff.

I hate this stuff, and I, you know, who I really hate?

I want to put in jail the guy who is just going, oh, oh, oh,

oh,

listen to that.

I mean,

this guy is clearly,

clearly out.

Do we know how old he is?

No.

I don't.

Look at.

I can't even walk.

He's just like falling over because he's.

And the one guy who's taking all the videos like, oh, oh, oh.

And then, if you continue to follow, then once they let him go,

then the woman who I think was with him, the one in the dress there.

She's like trying to hold people back.

And look what happens to her.

Look what they do to her.

A woman walks in.

And these two women and a guy punch her and look at her she's just out her eyes are open and she's just out oh my god they could have killed her oh my god look at that

completely out

and it takes a white woman to come up and cradle her head

then everybody's like oh boy this could be murder

yeah i mean she looks she looks dead she looks dead wasn't obviously no she wasn't she looks dead.

I did see that as a still that was posted.

I got to see all the way to that point.

Yeah, see,

I didn't see this point either.

So, I mean, it's so bad what they did to him.

But then the white woman who was with him, now, what could you possibly do to deserve that?

She did nothing.

Nothing.

Nothing.

What is even the argument of the police commissioner?

The police commissioner said

that

you don't know the whole truth.

Okay, well, what is the whole truth?

What I want to know,

because there is plenty of videotape, there's plenty of phones there.

Show me what caused it.

Now,

it doesn't mean that you deserve that, but

maybe you can balance out and go, yeah, this guy was a neo-Nazi saying I'm going to round you all up and I'm going to kill you all or whatever.

And then you can maybe see, okay, well, I mean, he, you know, he was asking for a punch in the face.

Not that,

but you could see that.

There's no justification for,

you know, continually beating a person who's on the ground, even if you really don't like them.

Unless, you know,

I can't think of anything unless it was like you were almost murdered yourself, right?

Like, you know what I mean?

Like,

or they assaulted your child.

I mean, there are sometimes...

Assaulting my child would probably put me into a blind rage.

I would probably put you into a blind rage.

So maybe there's something like that.

Maybe that's what she's referring to.

But I still, that doesn't justify that behavior.

Still a crime.

So now the Cincinnati city council member, Victoria Parks, she said the whites, quote, begged for a beatdown.

Oh, oh,

they were begging for a beatdown.

Okay, great.

She said they begged for that beatdown.

I'm grateful for the whole story.

She said she saw some additional footage that puts the crowd in, quote, some context.

Okay.

Does anybody have the footage?

You know, I am so sick and tired of these politicians just saying things and then

not having to prove anything.

You know, it's the Adam Schiffs of the world.

Oh, really?

You have, no, you don't know.

I have secret information.

Well, tell us what the secret information is, Adam.

Brennan, the same thing.

Well, you don't know what I've seen.

Well,

I'm pretty read into, this is what the people who were in the room with him.

I'm pretty read into top secret.

What exactly?

You're just going to have to trust me.

No, I'm not going to trust you on this.

Show me the footage.

The police chief and this city council member

should be impeached.

They should be fired.

The city council member has to be impeached.

The police chief should be fired.

You should be fired.

Produce the evidence or you're fired.

But that's not going to happen, not in Cincinnati, because this has been going on forever.

This kind of white hatred is being pushed in Cincinnati and all over the country.

And it has to stop.

It just has to stop.

And, you know,

again, I'm right back where I was yesterday.

You know, when you look at these stories and you see these elected officials excusing violence, when truth is twisted into some sort of ideology and justice seems, you know, just as, you know, optional as depending on your skin color or your political views, then what you're witnessing is not a civil society.

It's not.

We're not living in a civil society anymore.

You can't watch that video and show and tell me we're living in a civil society especially when everybody's just going oh oh oh

that's not that's that's an answer those are animals those are animals

that's not a civil society i don't know what it is but it is the the unraveling of the american society and promise and here's what i said

again

why pay attention if justice isn't going to be served?

Why does it even matter?

Why even speak the truth when no one seems to care to even hear it?

Why fight the people in charge if they're not going to be punished or do anything about it anyway?

There's a couple of reasons.

One,

that's the Bubba effect.

When you no longer trust that the government is going to do anything except create more problems, you become vigilantes.

That is deadly to the Republic.

Reason two.

We don't measure justice by how often it wins in the news cycle.

We measure it by how faithfully it aligns with eternal truths.

You know, if you know anything at all about history, it will tell you over and over again: injustice has its day, and it seems more than a week or a month, it'll have its decades.

The Roman Empire literally crucified truth.

Soviet Moscow buried it, it, tortured it, slaughtered it.

Mao's China

stoned it, burned it.

And yet, truth still survived.

It's still being stoned to death and tortured to death and just shot in the back of the head in China.

But truth still survives in China.

It's just that China's not really ready for it.

But somewhere, someone has refused to forget what is true.

This is what the founders understood.

This is why they said we pledge our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor, not for some immediate reward, but because they knew that justice was not cheap.

They believed in a higher law.

a law above men.

And I got to tell you, it is so hard as a man to say, well,

in the end, they will lose.

In the end, justice will win.

But we're not the first ones to say that.

My gosh,

think about the slaves in the field for 200 years.

Think about the Jews as slaves in Egypt.

Think about the people who are currently in slavery all around the world.

Someday, that will, the bad guys will lose and justice will be served.

Gosh.

Here's the thing that we can take.

We have to remember what our founders knew and tried to remind us.

Truth and justice are not things you inherit.

They're not.

They're things you have to fight for.

Every single generation has to renew this promise.

That's why I've been saying this, you know, lately this week, that,

you know, it's time for our generation, and actually the one right above me, to let go.

You've had your turn.

Nancy Pelosi, when are you ever going to let go of the power?

You have corrupted us for so long.

You have served and fattened your own wallets, your own life, your own power for so long, and you've destroyed generations.

You have destroyed our economic ability for our children to be free, to own a house, to have a job where they can buy things, they can live a decent life, have a vacation from time to time.

These are things that every generation has to decide and fight for.

So

we can't look at a story like this and say there's no justice.

I suggest that maybe we start looking at stories like this and we start to say, this is where I draw the line.

This is where I draw the line.

And even if the world doesn't change, I know where my lines are.

I don't tolerate that.

I will speak out against it.

I will not be silent about it.

I draw the line here.

I'm not going any farther down this mad show that the world is putting on right now.

I'm not going over the cliff with the rest of humanity.

This is where the American people that still believe in right and wrong, this is when we stand up and say directly to the liars and the ideologues and the demagogues,

you may sit in City Hall.

You may sit in Washington.

You may think you hold the power, but you don't.

I know who I answer to.

And you do not speak for me.

You do not define my morality.

You don't own the truth.

You don't even recognize the truth.

And you know what?

At times,

it'll cost us.

The longer we wait to draw this line, the higher the cost will be.

Speaking up always costs you something.

You know that.

How many times have you bit your tongue in your relationship?

How many times have you bit your tongue at work?

You know something's not right, but you bite your tongue.

Stop it.

Don't.

Yes, it's going to cost you, but it's not worth speaking up all the times.

I don't say to my wife, yeah, you know, that dress doesn't make you look fat.

It's the fat that makes you look fat.

Now, she says that to me, but I wouldn't say that to her.

Okay?

You don't always say things,

but when it matters, and you know what, you might lose friends, you might be labeled, you might be mocked, but remember this, truth always costs more in the beginning than in the end.

And the silence

is what makes tyranny cheap.

I have this week been

expressing to you that I

There's things I don't believe in anymore.

And

I'm trying to hold on.

And I do, I shouldn't say, I don't know how to express this yet.

I do believe in American justice.

I just don't think it exists right now.

But I believe it will return.

And it may not be in my lifetime.

But somewhere somebody will remember it.

And they will not.

They'll say, we draw the line.

I'm not.

tolerating this anymore.

And they will live their own life based on eternal principles.

Hopefully, more of us begin to do that in our own life, and that's when things change.

But if you really want hope, real, tangible hope, don't look for it in Washington.

Don't look for it in the press, don't look for it in the halls of power, don't look for it, you know, in City Hall.

Don't wait for it to come from Hollywood or some billionaire's social media feed.

Hope is built in the hearts of men and women who refuse to bow to lies.

Hope is built when a father teaches his son that no one, no matter their color, no one is above the law.

Hope is built when a mom refuses to let her daughter believe that violence is ever justice.

Hope is built every time someone speaks the truth in the face of chaos.

The world has gone mad before.

But madness is not eternal.

Only truth is.

And the truth is, justice is not dead.

It is just waiting.

It's patiently waiting.

Waiting for people of courage.

Waiting for people who will remember.

It is just waiting for us.

There are certain things in life that we shouldn't take for granted, like tucking your loved ones into bed and knowing they're safe, because safety comes at a price, right?

A husband who never made it back from deployment, a wife who was lost in a line of duty, a first first responder who raced into a building while others were running out.

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Well, hello to Stu Bregier.

Hello, Stu.

Didn't sound that excited about that?

No, I'm really not.

Seemed a little underwhelmed?

I'm really not.

Did you see the...

You're ready for this, Greg.

Did you see that there was an orange shape spotted on the surveillance footage near Jeffrey Epstein's prison cell on the final night of his life?

An orange shape?

There was an orange shape.

What shape was it?

I mean, I need to know.

Well, it's a shadowy object.

And it's seen at the video that was reviewed by CBS News, and it moves up the stairs to Epstein's

cell block around 10:40 p.m.

CBS News is reporting this?

CBS News.

Right here.

Right here.

Slow down.

There's the orange shape.

Right there, Stu.

You see that?

I do see that.

Look at that.

Right.

There's the orange shape.

Don't know what it is.

Now, this is the

let me see.

This is the

final night of his life.

Okay.

Mm-hmm.

And they're questioning: is there

an explanation for this orange shape?

And

I'm just hoping

we get to rope UFOs into the Epstein file.

Why not at this point?

I think we if we could just

get one grand universal conspiracy theory, it would be so great.

And then they'll come out and be like, oh, come on, that was old news.

We've known about this forever.

It was in the video we released.

Aliens, come on.

This is Glenn Beck.

Your kitchen where, you know, you made breakfast for your kids every single morning.

There's a married couple walking through it right now, pointing at the island in the middle, talking about whether it's just too big or just right.

Your living room, or you, you know, you and your wife curled up on that old couch at the end of so many long days, watch movies together.

Well, it's central headquarters now.

You know,

look, that's the nature of selling a house.

And it's so hard.

Last night we were packing up the house and I picked up a

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It's like no big deal.

And we were going to give it away.

And

I picked it up and all of a sudden I just burst into tears.

And I was like, my wife's like, are you okay?

And I'm like, I remember the kids.

You made spaghetti sauce every Sunday and you put the spaghetti sauce in this pitcher.

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All right, so Stu, let's play a game, okay?

Yes.

I like games.

Which

is Kamala Harris, and which one did I make up?

Okay.

Okay, so

one of them Kamala Harris said, and the other one, I made up.

Okay, okay.

This is going to be, This could be tough.

She spoke about

her candidacy as the gubernatorial candidate in California.

Yes.

Okay.

She's not going to run.

No.

Sad.

No.

That's sad.

Okay.

So did she say,

upon some deep reflection,

for now, my leadership in public service will not be in elected office.

Over the past few months, I've spent time reflecting on this moment in our nation's history and the best way for me to continue fighting for the American people and advancing the values and ideals I hold dear.

Is that Kamala Harris?

Okay, that's option one.

Option two.

So here's the thing.

When we talk about leadership and being a leader who leads, we must understand that leadership is not always about the office you're elected to, but sometimes about the space that is not elected yet still leadership and at this moment which is a moment that comes after many other moments i've been reflecting deeply intentionally profoundly on what it means to reflect as one does during reflection and through that reflecting i've come to understand that while i may not currently be in elected office i'm still very much in a place of public service which is service to the public for the people who are the American people, which is who we are.

So I'll continue to do the work work because the work must be done.

And that work is working for the ideals and values that are ideal and have value.

And those are the things that I hold and that I hold dear.

Because if we don't hold them dear, how can we say they are dear to be held?

I know it's a tough, it's a tough.

It's a trick question.

It's a trick question.

Neither of them are her.

They're both too smart.

Exactly right.

Oh, really?

Exactly right.

One is obviously me and the other one is a press agent because there is absolutely no way she said the first one.

No way.

No, because she didn't repeat herself.

No.

She did she once in there, though.

I thought when you were reading it, I was like, gosh, I don't know.

That one.

Yeah, after some deep reflection.

Yes.

For now, my leadership of public service will not be in elected office for other six months I've spent time reflecting on this moment.

So I was at that one.

I was like, okay, that sounds like air, but it could be.

The second one was a little long.

But

if she would have said that, if she would have said it on stage, that's exactly what she would have done.

If it wasn't a canned print statement,

if someone just randomly walked up to her and asked her, that's about what she'd come up with.

That's exactly what she would have come up with.

I like it.

Gosh darn it.

California, look at the good news.

I mean, it couldn't get worse.

I don't know about that.

Would you rather have your governor be Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom?

That's a legitimate.

That's another game.

Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris is your governor has to be one of them.

Who would you choose?

That is really hard.

So this is like

wow, that's really hard.

Suicide

by

being shot

or suicide by electrocuting yourself.

Yes, it does

something like that.

I think I would pick Kamala because I feel like while both are awful and both want

terrible policies to be passed and enforced.

Gavin feels more competently evil than Kamala.

She's more like a clown car.

Yes.

Like it would be a joke and it wouldn't, things wouldn't go well.

Yeah, it wouldn't.

Not that they're going well in California now.

No.

Yeah.

Well,

that's what I mean.

I think it would be.

He'd be worse.

I wouldn't want Patrick Bateman in American Psycho running my state.

That would sound great.

Okay.

Okay.

Can I give you a third game?

Okay, third game.

Third game.

game.

Wow.

Are you ready for game number three?

Game number three.

Okay.

Name

the year

of this headline.

Of this headline.

Are you ready?

How conspiracy theories about COVID's origins are hampering our ability to prevent the next pandemic.

Wait, say it again.

How conspiracy theories about COVID's origins are hampering our ability to prevent the next pandemic.

I'll give you some options.

2020,

2021, 2021, probably.

2022,

2023, 2024,

or 2025.

Those are your options.

The way this game is going, I should say, I'd be surprised if it's even been written yet.

Right.

That is exactly.

But I mean, if you're going to say logically 2021, 2022.

Yeah, maybe even 2020.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, okay, because there, you know, yeah, you're right.

There's a lot of conspiracy theories about originating very beginning.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And maybe it trickled into 2021.

I feel like 2022 would be pushing it.

Yeah.

2023, we kind of already had passed it.

2024 would be completely insane.

We all admitted it.

Even the New York Times, everybody admitted, yep.

Yep.

All intelligence agencies say it came from Wuhan.

Yeah, in a lab.

The answer is...

Today.

Today.

Today.

Today.

What is the story?

It is how conspiracy theories about COVID's origins are hampering our ability to prevent the next pandemic.

One of the authors, by the way, well, a couple of authors of note, I would say.

One is Christian Anderson, who is in the emails.

from 2020 talking about...

Oh, he was a...

Wasn't he the guy who was like, hey, I think this has...

He was one of the guys saying like, hey, this could be lab leak.

Right.

And it then changed.

Right.

And it changed mysteriously.

No one really understands it.

Cha-ching.

Another guy is Andrew Rambo,

who is not like, you know, Sylvester Stallone Rambo.

He's like a French R-A-M-B-A-U-T, like the Renault.

Oh,

Rambo.

Rambo.

He is like the one I am up in the woods, living in the cave.

I surrender.

I surrender.

Whatever the town wants to do, I will do.

The worst Rambo sequel ever.

A A French Rambo.

An instantly surrendering Rambo.

Take my guns.

I hate them.

I hate these guys.

The super exciting, but like dramatic scene that they build to is him just putting down all of his weapons.

He comes out.

He still has the bandana around his head.

I surrendered to a mime last week.

Unbelievable.

And they're trying to say it's crazy.

You're nuts if you believe the Ladley's theory.

That's today.

Today.

And you know what?

Also, today in the New York Times is an op-ed from,

is it Brennan and Clapper

who are saying

this is just the weaponization of government.

This is, look at what they're doing.

Oh, no.

They don't like the weaponization of government, eh?

This is just a conspiracy theory.

That's all this is.

Are you serious?

I'm serious in today's New York Times.

In today's New Times.

I can't take it.

Let me give you this.

Yesterday,

we are living in clown world.

Yesterday, Donald Trump was talking about

maybe giving a pardon to Diddy

because he was charged with the Man Act.

Was he actually talking about that or was it just rumored?

Rumored.

It does feel like when you get a Donald Trump pardon rumor,

a lot of times it follows.

Usually, like, it does feel like a lot of times it happens.

So we can't verify that it came from it, but a rumor is that he's going to be because

he was arrested on the Man Act.

Now, if you don't know the Man Act, if you're my age,

you say, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think I've ever heard of the Man Act.

Oh, yes, you have.

Yes, you have.

From a very famous scene from that documentary called Smokey and the Bandit.

Listen.

Who are you chasing?

Somebody chasing you?

Nobody's chasing me, boy.

I've been chasing a

maniac all the way from Dexakana, Texas.

Me?

Was he a bank robber?

Book robbing.

Bank robbing is baby alongside of what this dude is doing.

Almost killed funny law officer.

Driving through people's backyards, knocking down mailboxes, got abroad in the car, took across the state line, got the man out.

That's the man.

I think he's got a permission, and that's getting him.

I got behind this.

Whoa.

Oh, let me pay for it.

Let me pay for it.

No, no, I'm an officer of the law.

I'd be honest.

Much obliged.

Please again.

I got to get the square.

I'll ride back there.

Just work.

I love that movie.

You've seen it?

A long time ago.

Oh, my gosh.

It's worth watching with your kids.

Really?

It is one of our favorite movies.

It is

hysterical.

It's just hysterical.

Jackie Gleason

at his absolute best.

I'm going to barbecue your ass.

It is so full of laughs.

They just love it.

But there's the Man Act.

The Man Act.

And the Man Act was taking someone across state lines.

Which is always the weirdest thing.

That's the most concerning thing.

The law, the law is like, you can do whatever you want inside a state, but if you take them across state lines.

Oh, that's no.

No, no, no.

That's what they always get them on.

It's always like a trafficking charge.

Who gets them on?

Is that the feds?

The feds.

Otherwise, it's state.

It's state.

That's how the feds, that's how, you know, remember, that's what was that,

shoot, I can't remember the Supreme Court ruling from the 1930s where

the guy was growing wheat.

Right.

Remember?

Yeah.

And he's growing wheat in the city.

The Commerce Clause.

Yeah, the Commerce Clause, and he's growing wheat in his own, you know, in his own farm.

Yes, but it could be taken across state lines and so the federal government has to regulate wasn't it even more ridiculous wasn't it you selling it within your state could manipulate the market in other states

it might i think it was yeah at least that was one of those cases like gosh i can't remember you're right i can't remember i'm too tired to remember the name of of that uh of that case but that was i think what it was because he wanted to sell it in his own state and he's like okay this got nothing to do with with interstate commerce they're like, well, if you sell a bunch of we here, it could lower the price in another state.

That's crazy.

It's crazy.

All those stuff has to be overturned.

If you would just overturn that, that's a big one.

That would be a big one because you would just, you would cut down the power of the federal government so much.

So much.

And of course, remember, we're all anti-government here.

You know, that's all we, you know, forget, forget Antifa.

You know, forget the people who are actually shooting at ICE.

Nah, it's us.

We're the anti-government people.

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So, Stu just looked up.

It was Wickard v.

Philburn, right?

Yes, that's what we were trying to come up with.

And you say it's worse than we thought?

It is worse, yes, because you had mentioned, like, oh, it was about a guy just trying to sell some wheat across state lines.

No, selling it into the state.

No, yeah, you're right.

It was your initial initial across state lines.

And then I said, no, I think it was worse than that.

It was actually, he just wanted to sell it inside the state.

And the argument was about, well, if you sell a bunch of wheat inside your state, it could affect the overall national wheat market.

See, this is where we are rookies.

Okay.

Because

we look at things and we still are looking at it semi-rationally.

Okay.

Yes.

No, you got to go to the federal government.

They're never rational.

No.

In fact, the case was actually all about him wanting to grow wheat and consume it himself.

So it was wheat he was just growing in his backyard for himself.

And they said that could actually manipulate the national wheat market so therefore Congress could control it.

Now, you might think to yourself,

I don't think so, but

then you have to think like a government stooge if everybody did that.

Well, everybody's not going to grow wheat.

Oh, my gosh.

I don't know how this stuff stands.

And I don't, honestly, I don't know why somebody isn't bringing that case.

The Supreme Court has been begging for it.

While we still have justices on our side, we should get things like that overturned.

We should really work to overturn that.

You imagine you get the Commerce Clause overturned and the difference that it would make?

You know, it's, I'm trying to think of, you know, what are the worst overreaches of the government?

And I, you know, I always come back to, again,

property tax.

I think property tax is the most immoral, un-American tax there is.

You, you take out a, let's say, a 30-year mortgage.

Okay, now you're paying it, but you're only really paying the debt down, what, the last 10 years?

They get all of their money first.

So you're renting it from the bank.

Then when you do pay it off, then you're renting it from the state.

Because the state, if you don't pay your taxes, they take your house away.

That's insanity.

Just insanity.

But that's America today.

But we can change that.

We just.

No, I don't know how.

Okay, I don't.

I was going to leave you with something profound.

I'm out.

I'm out of profound stuff.

All week I've been out of profound stuff.

So that's as good as it gets, America.

That's all I got.

Congratulations.

We will see you tomorrow.

God bless.

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