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Late Monday, late yesterday afternoon, Midtown Manhattan.

The summer heat was still clinging to the glass and the steel of Park Avenue.

Normally,

a quiet street

with the exception of the honking and possibly the sirens.

The sun had just begun to descend behind the skyscrapers when the violence came.

It was a man we now know, twenty-seven years old.

His name we don't need to say it now.

He got out of a black BMW and he double parked near fifty-first and fifty-second.

His movements, as we see on the camera, were calm, deliberate.

In his hands was a Palmetto State Armory AR-15 rifle.

His target, we didn't know until this morning.

His purpose,

we didn't know until this morning.

All we knew was the carnage that he left behind.

He walked into 345 Park Avenue.

It's a tower of wealth and power.

Blackstone is in there.

The NFL is there.

Rudin Management.

It's the sort of place where the idea of chaos feels very foreign until it arrives.

He walks into the lobby and he shoots a New York City police officer in the back, 36 years old.

A husband, a father, father of three,

with a newborn on the way.

A protector.

Shot in the back while standing post, never even had a chance.

And his rifle cracked with rhythm, another woman cowering behind a pillar, hoping she would be unseen.

She wasn't.

He gunned her down without any hesitation.

Security footage shows him just moving through the lobby like a ghost, methodical, relentless.

A guard behind the desk was next.

Then a civilian.

Then silence.

Well,

silence, only broken by the sobbing of survivors and the screechings of sirens.

He got out of the lobby and he hit the elevators.

One opened.

A woman stepped out, face to face with him.

He let her pass.

Why?

We don't know.

She doesn't know.

She'll probably be asking that question for the rest of her life.

He takes it up to the 33rd floor.

This is Rudin Properties.

This is a place that owns a lot of property throughout New York.

And there, amid the quiet hum of the fluorescent lights and the cubicle chatter, he fired again and again and again.

And another life was taken, another family broken.

And then, in one final motion, he turned the rifle on himself.

It was 7:52 p.m.

last night that the NYPD Commissioner, Jessica Tisch, confirmed the scene had been contained.

I don't know if you've seen the pictures of

some of the office workers that they had just piled up couches and chairs against the doors.

The shooter was dead, but the damage was done.

Four dead, one officer, one guard, two civilians, several more wounded.

And the city once again left to reckon with a nightmare come to life.

You're going to hear all kinds of things.

You're going to hear more gun control.

Yada, yada, yada.

But will we ever talk about the real issues here?

We know now that he drove cross country.

He came from Las Vegas to New York.

He's a security guard by trade.

He's a man with a concealed carry permit.

Yet he has a history of mental illness.

He had a backpack of ammunition, medication, and intent.

In his car, they found a revolver, extra magazines, a rifle case,

and in his wake, nothing more than grief and confusion and questions.

Outside, seemingly completely unrelated, as chaos erupted, two protesters were arrested just outside the building, one shouting, Free Palestine,

and then followed by, I'm not the shooter.

The surreal and the tragic colliding on the sidewalk under blinking police lights and the cold

whir of the helicopters overhead.

Among the shattered glass, the young officer's body was pulled out by his comrades,

taken

to the morgue

for his pregnant wife

to view and bury.

This morning, the news broke that we now know he was carrying a note in his pocket.

We now know why he went to that tower in New York.

He wanted to express his grievance with the NFL

because he suffered from CTE, that's the brain injury linked to head trauma.

But he wasn't in the NFL.

He apparently was a decent football player in high school.

No word of whether he went on to play football in college, but his note cited the NFL in the writings.

In the note, which was several pages long, he blamed football for his apparent struggle with this neurodegenerative disease, CTE.

He shot himself in the chest, and in his note he asked that his brain be studied.

He lived in Las Vegas.

He had a history of mental illness.

This is a tale of

insanity, a tale of evil, a tale of broken minds.

A tale of innocence destroyed in the place where it was least expected.

A skyscraper in New York turned slaughterhouse, and a Monday night that turned to morning.

And once again, people of the country saying, Oh, Lord,

how long, oh Lord, how long

will this go on?

At the same time, a story from the other side of the country.

Three people are dead.

Three others wounded by gunfire as a man opened fire with a handgun outside of the Grand Sierra Resort casino in Reno.

Police officer was also wounded.

Suspected gunman, multiple magazines, shot by responding police.

He was taken to the hospital in critical condition.

They were there within two minutes.

No motive has been determined so far.

The call apparently came in the morning yesterday.

We're just hearing about it today.

The chief of police said he was seen walking in the parking lot of the casino to the valet area.

When he got to the valet area, he just pointed his handgun, the firearm malfunctioned.

He was able to address the issue quickly.

Then he fired multiple times into a crowd.

One person died of gunshot injury.

At the scene, four others were taken to the hospital.

One of the victims died.

Two are still in critical condition.

One who was shot has already been released.

He then went back to the parking lot, traded gunfire with a casino

security guard.

Then he fired on a person who was just driving through the parking lot, killing them.

The police arrived and he started firing at them.

They fired back.

They stopped him, wounded him.

Took him to the hospital.

We have an epidemic of mental illness in in this country.

Have you walked the streets of any city in America?

Have you walked it?

Last time my wife and I were walking down the streets of Manhattan, this is a couple months ago,

a black guy on a bike rides towards us

and he begins to circle us on his bike on the sidewalk.

We're just minding our own business walking down the street.

He circles us, keeps riding around us, all the while looking me right directly in the eye and pointing with one hand to the other on the handlebar, saying, I'm going to kill me a white man today.

Today is the day I'm going to kill me a white man.

Luckily, he noticed that I had two armed security people

behind us.

He recognized maybe they might kill a black man on a bike today.

He rode away.

The man was clearly unstable.

He wasn't the only one.

Didn't matter the color.

They were nuts.

We have become a society that has gone into madness

in polite society and not so polite society.

We have just sunk into madness and oh Lord, how much more madness will it take before we stand up and say enough is enough?

If you think the use of social media has nothing to do with it, you're wrong.

If you think the actual media has nothing to do with this, you're wrong.

If you think our school systems have nothing to do with this, you're wrong.

If you think our broken families have nothing to do with it, you're wrong.

If you think our lack of God in our society has nothing to do with it, you're wrong.

If you think the idea that there is no one that you can hold responsible for any action,

you're wrong.

The vice president was in Cincinnati this weekend, and he was, or yesterday, and he was talking about the beating.

I don't even,

I don't even be, what is happening to us?

And meanwhile, I think it was the mayor of Cincinnati,

mayor,

oh the police chief thank you of Cincinnati saying this is just social media

well

you know it might play a role it does

plays a role so does everything else in our society but you have to start with personal responsibility

If somebody is beating another person for no reason, I don't care if it's at a concert, the White House, or the Waffle House, You arrest that person.

You put them in jail.

You prosecute them.

You show the rest of the society this isn't tolerated.

This is what happens when a society becomes irreligious and immoral.

This system of freedom that we have always enjoyed cannot last.

There aren't enough laws.

You want more laws?

Oh, they'll give you more laws.

You want to make sure nobody steps out of line?

Oh, there is always someone willing to make sure no one steps out of line.

Maybe we need more cameras.

Maybe we need more surveillance.

No, what we need is more morality.

What we need is more kindness.

What we need is more God.

What we need is more sanity.

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Nope.

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Hello, Stu.

Glenn, how are you?

I'm good.

How are you?

Tired up today.

Yeah, I mean, you know, isn't everybody in there?

Everybody just a little sick of it?

I'm a little sick of it.

Yeah.

I'm sick of it.

You know, it's fascinating to see

all of the reaction to it as well.

You know,

we're going to get a media cycle of how bad football is out of this for sure.

Of course, we are.

It's going to be blamed on that.

No, if you kill yourself, I maybe pay attention.

If you kill a bunch of innocent people, I don't care.

I don't care what your complaint is.

Don't care.

Nope.

Don't care what your complaints are.

Not looking into it.

Not looking into it, not going to take it seriously.

Nope.

In fact, it prohibits me from taking it seriously for an extended period of time.

Yep.

Don't want to hear about your dumb complaints about football.

And I will turn off any news channel that is talking about CTE.

Yes, shut up.

Yep.

I don't need to hear it.

Don't need to hear it.

Yep.

The same thing with the dope that was assassinating the CEO of the healthcare company.

Don't care about your complaints about health care.

Don't care.

Nope.

Don't care.

You know, that's something that maybe we should consider doing as a civilization.

When someone uses violence in a way like this to get their complaint taken seriously, we don't reward that by taking it seriously.

Kind of a basic thing.

You want to disincentivize violence, not incentivize it.

And if someone who is at the end of the rope and thinks they've got nothing to live for and wants to go do this because they think the way they can make a mark on a society is for their point to just gain the prominence it deserves.

Well, what we should do is the opposite of that.

We shouldn't talk about it at all for a year.

The guy who set himself on fire in front of the

VA hospital, remember in Texas?

He didn't take anybody else out.

It was a tragic story of mental illness.

And he said, you know, that his mental illness had been ignored by the VA, et cetera, et cetera.

And I talked to his dad, and I talked to him on the air.

He didn't hurt anybody else.

He hurt himself.

Tragic, awful.

Yeah.

Awful.

Don't do that.

Don't do do that.

Awful.

Awful.

That's a sign of madness.

But

if he does that, I might take them seriously.

You're not hurting anybody else but yourself.

So you at least have some decency left.

But I'm not listening to you.

You take out a bunch of innocent people.

You're a madman and a murderer.

No.

Sorry.

You know, I don't care if Jeffrey Dahmer was like, you know, heads are tastier with salt.

I'm not listening to that.

I don't really care.

Jeffrey Dahmer had heads in his refrigerator.

I don't care if he was trying to eat people because he wanted to make a message about how cute puppy dogs were.

I'm not mentioning cute puppy dogs around anything that's going on with Jeffrey Dahmer at that time.

Just saying.

It's a heck of a sentence.

Yeah.

You're not mentioning puppy dogs around anything to do with Jeffrey Dahmer.

That's what his point was.

Not going to do it.

Not going to do it.

And none of us should.

None of us should stop

rewarding these lunatics.

This is Glenn Beck.

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No, no, no.

Famine.

The famine that is now going on in Gaza.

And even our president, you know, was, well, I think there is starvation.

Well,

okay.

Israel is constantly under attack.

And boy, what a weird thing that they were just talking about a two-state solution.

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The media is just so bad.

We're just sitting here looking at CNN.

They're showing these pictures of these,

you know, famine,

famished children

that, you know, they say that they're not being fed.

Well, show me the parents, you know, because what's happening is these children are having muscular dystrophy or other ailments.

And it's now coming out that it's verified.

These are not starving children.

If they are, show me they're starving parents.

Parents are just well-fed.

Yeah, but notice that?

Have you noticed that?

You'll see the parents holding the children and they're well-fed.

How did that happen?

Yeah, I mean, I don't know about you, but I feed my children before I feed myself.

Yeah, that's not personalized at all.

Yeah, I mean, what I'm talking about, when I'm saying me, I mean the royal.

Right, the royal.

Okay.

You know what I mean.

Pat Gray joins us now.

Hello, Pat.

Hello.

Hello.

Oh, great.

Oh, so great.

So great.

So great.

I want to play something from CNN as they were describing the shooter yesterday, you know, right off of the heels of, look at these starving children and their their fat parents.

They go right into the shooting and listen to this.

Sean, you're here to John's reporting that they do know what they looks like.

Male, possibly white, mustache, sunglasses in that building, isolated to, they believe, to various locations.

Possibly white.

Possibly.

Let me translate.

Hopefully white.

Yes.

Yes.

But it is.

Translate further.

Not white.

Well, very much not white.

Impossibly white.

And And you're judging that by what?

The photos?

Yeah, by the photos of the guy of the actual shooter.

Well, he's possibly white.

Not white.

He's possibly.

Can I possibly quibble with your analysis of possibly?

If he could be in another universe, if he had another parent, he could have been white.

He's possibly white.

I will say, though, to be fair to Aaron Burnett, what we see in the video is his face, which is clearly not white.

Right.

However, the rest of his body is covered by clothing.

Covered entirely.

To 90% white.

Yeah, he could be.

Possibly.

Possibly white.

White.

We don't know.

That is crazy.

I can't argue with that.

I didn't see the rest of his life.

Meanwhile, while this is going on in areas like, we got to have gun control.

What's happening with crime on our cities?

Then the same network is going after Alligator Alley.

Oh, Alligator Alcatraz?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Sorry, Alligator Alcatraz.

This clip is amazing.

Sarah Gonzalez on her show was showing this to Pat and I yesterday, and we were just flabbergasted by it.

It is apparently supposed to be the

design of the piece is to make you feel bad for people who go to Alligator Alcatraz.

Now,

let me just ask you, who goes to Alligator Alcatraz?

Criminals.

Criminals go to Alligator Alcatraz.

People who have, number one, broken our immigration laws and likely have committed other more serious crimes, if you will.

They go to Alligator Alcatraz.

And it is not a permanent facility.

It's a temporary holding facility, which is next to a runway, which has planes on it that take them to other countries where they're supposed to be.

But there's alligators.

But there's all around it.

And again, surrounding it.

There are alligators

within miles of the facility, yes.

I mean, it is in an area where alligators may live.

I don't know if you've known this.

I've lived in Florida.

The whole place

is where alligators may live.

Sometimes you look out on a little cul-de-sac.

Yeah, there's an alligator crossing the street.

Oh, look at that.

That's an alligator.

okay they don't people don't say this is my alligator house no uh they don't live inside of alligator alcatraz they they they exist i mean in theory if you escaped and tried to swim across the swamp you may run into an alligator like any swamp in the state okay yep it is not an act like it's just a kitschy name for a place that makes it sound scarier than it is frankly it's just at an airport and it's a bunch of tents at an airport that's what it is okay show this to me Here's the video.

This is sad.

Sad.

Hopeless.

Oh, no.

It's a type of torture.

Torture.

These are the stories of migrants held at Alligator Alcatraz.

Oh, no.

A new detention facility deep in the Florida Everglades.

Deep.

Using a plan of the sites shown during President Trump's visit and photos from media tours and social media, CNN created a 3D model

inside this.

Why?

When you have the photos of it.

Why would you

hear the giant tents where people report being crammed into cells.

Hold on, stop for a second.

In a cell, there's two bunk beds.

Yes, what they've done here, as Pat points out, is take an actual photo of the inside of Alligator Alcatraz

and then formed it into a 3D model of the same photo.

So what you're seeing are a couple of beds, and then there is a 3D model of a couple of beds.

What is that?

That's simply the purpose of that.

I think it's to make it more mysterious.

Yes.

It's like we can't even get a camera in there.

Well, you just showed us.

You just showed a photo.

And now you're doing the 3D mock-up.

Look at that.

Why?

Look at that.

It is.

It's superimposed.

There's the photo.

And then it just fades into the 3D model.

That's amazing.

Bizarre.

What?

That's right.

Pat's right.

Imagine using resources on that.

Why would you need that?

So they can rotate around the outside of the bed?

That is legitimately what they use it for.

But there's so much more.

It's so much more impactful this way.

It is.

Go ahead.

It's okay.

Here it is.

Into cells made

CNN's detainees to hear first-hand accounts of what conditions are like on the inside.

Oh, no.

Some asked not to be named for fear of retribution.

Because of the way that we have been treated, it has been a very terrible experience.

Oh, no.

You want it to be a nice experience for them, don't you?

Let me just go back to every torture place you've ever heard.

How many times did we get the phone call from Dietrich Bonhoeffer?

I mean, where he's like, was it 12?

I gotta tell you.

This is really horrible.

This is really horrible.

I don't like it here at all.

I mean, you know, Edie, I mean, he's putting people in boxes.

We never got the phone call from them.

No, that's not.

Wait a minute, Edie.

You might be torturing me and putting me in a hole, but wait a minute.

I demand my phone call to the press.

As they pointed out, it is true some of the people who did this

did not want their names to be used.

Some of them did.

Now, how many times have you seen that from when a fascist dictator has imprisoned people and tortured them?

They don't usually get to speak at all, but they certainly wouldn't be like, yeah, my name's Bob.

I'm in bunk 74.

All right, go ahead.

Detained by ICE when he showed up for a meeting with his probation officer.

Oh, no.

Pauser.

He has a probation officer, which leads you to believe he might be on probation, which also leads to he committed crimes.

I love that.

32 people per cell or per cage, really, because this is a cage.

It's a metal cage strapped in with

zip ties.

These three open toilets are shared by dozens of men who say there's no running water or sewage system.

Roger Modeno was literally.

That is the same story for many mobile home parks in Florida, surrounded by alligators.

That is a very good point.

It's also true of every concert festival I've ever been to, right?

They don't have running, but they do have a lot of people sharing the bathroom.

It's not the prettiest situation.

And the chain-link fences held together by those all-ever defensive zip ties.

Zip ties.

All it out of those.

Do you remember all the reports from World War II when Hitler was saying we used zip ties on the cell?

I don't.

Also, like, you know, it's such a,

they use the word cages as if that's worse than cells.

Like, is it?

Is a chain link cage, which would be a holding facility, worse than a cell with steel bars

and concrete walls?

Like,

anything would be more open and better.

Yeah.

But they use it in the opposite way to make it.

Well, it's actually basically cage.

And they say, you know, 87 people to the cage.

Look at the size of the cage.

right yeah look at the size it's massive yeah they've got 87 bunk beds i mean you know

i did you see the one in where was it el salvador where there's like 60 people on a bunk right like that could that's a difficult situation not at all all right go ahead

are shared by dozens of men who say there's no running water or sewage system.

No, no.

Roger Moreno, who has lived in the U.S.

for more than 30 years, told CNN the rain makes it worse.

The toilets, when it rains, they overflow, and the cells we're in fill up with sewage.

Every time it comes to a storm, the toilets clog up.

Detainees told CNN the lights are kept on 24 hours a day.

I have to personally put a rag on top of my head to at least try to take a nap because the lights are so bright.

There's 24 LEV lights in the roof and it's like shining bright.

Now stop for a second.

Now I wasn't familiar with the right to nap

when you're being held in a facility like this.

I mean you would want the lights to maybe go down unless you were afraid of a shiv.

Let me go back to the next guy who

also has a criminal record to tell us about how horrible this is.

It's like shining bright.

Juan Palma Martinez has lived in the U.S.

for more than 20 years and was also picked up by ICE at a routine meeting meeting with his probation officer.

Oh, wait, wait, what?

Pat

another one picked up at a meeting with his probation officer.

Now, what could possibly be the reason he would be visiting a probation?

Maybe he just has, he's just friendly with them?

You know, I don't think so.

Like, hey, my man, hey, my probation officer.

Maybe it's slang of some, is there some slang not used?

I know of.

It's usually indicative of committing crimes.

That's interesting.

It was a visit.

A visit.

It was a visit.

It wasn't an appointment.

It was a visit.

A visit.

A little visit.

There you go.

All right, go ahead.

Know when it's daytime or when it's nighttime.

I don't sleep.

It's affecting me mentally and physically.

The tents aren't sealed.

Okay, stop for a sec.

I just want to rewind what he just said here.

Okay.

Or just review.

He said he can't tell if it's nighttime or daytime.

That's a complaint.

Now, you could say that could be like a problem, right?

Like, I mean, you know, it would be weird to not be able to detect that.

Listen to the literal next complaint they have.

I no longer know when it's daytime or when it's nighttime.

I don't sleep.

It's affecting me mentally and physically.

The tents aren't sealed.

You can see cracks in this image.

Okay, stop.

If you can see cracks, that means you could see the outside and would be able to detect whether it's daytime or nighttime.

I love the fact.

I love the fact that they have President Trump and Ron DeSantis, or I mean, that's not Ron.

Yeah, that's Ron DeSantis

standing there on a tour with the press of this facility.

Right.

Where they're not hiding it.

They did not need the 3D mock on the model.

No, no.

Where is the 3D model with the 3D rendered Trump in that?

No.

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This is what we believe the president looks like.

Go ahead.

In this image.

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Not to mention, the entire continent of Europe has no air conditioning, right?

Probably your home back from wherever you came from has no air conditioning.

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And I would guess lots of bugs, right?

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We've seen the crime in Detroit is, I'm sorry, in Maryland is way down.

Detroit, you're on your own, sorry.

But the crime in Maryland is way, way down.

Is that because they keep removing removing maryland fathers

yes that's why it's not no um it's it's because you know the george soros da was voted out new da is in crime has dropped 60 percent hmm well what's the difference are there a difference in policy of some sort a little bit a little bit now there is a discussion with the socialist leading mayor you know who is like you know what we need are we need we need fewer police but we need you know uh doctors doctors out there to, you know, I don't know, talk people down.

I have no idea, out of their crime.

But the

the you know, the

DA is like hard-nosed now and is going out, you break the law, you go to jail.

And

they think that that's what's causing the crime to go down.

I think they're probably right.

Hmm.

Yeah.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah.

The mayor says, no, it's just that we're being also nicer to criminals.

I don't think that's making the crime go down.

You don't think being nicer to criminals.

We just learned from the poor victims of Alligator Alcatraz.

I don't think that's going to help.

You don't think it's going to help?

No.

Not if we corrected that.

I say we, you know, we go ahead and we have the tent and we show that that's what your life is going to be like until you get on a plane and you go bye-bye to your house, to your home, to where you belong.

No.

You're saying we should disincentivize crime?

I'm saying that

that's a crazy old-fashioned idea.

Yeah.

That seems to be working in places like Maryland, Baltimore.

You know, not the easiest place to live.

But it seems to be getting easier by the tune of about 60%

fall in crime.

I don't know.

That sounds like a good plan.

Maybe we should try that elsewhere.

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Hello, America.

Yesterday there was a shooting in Manhattan.

We talked about it and the reason why it happened we now know.

He was blaming the NFL for injuries you know brain injuries that he suffered not in the NFL but when he was in high school apparently he was mentally ill what a surprise we have a real problem in America but we also have a real problem we are in denial and I want to talk about that with an article I read from Lucy Biggers

She said, I helped AOC win and I understand the fantasy that Zoron is selling now to New Yorkers.

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So Lucy Biggers is somebody who wrote an article, U.S.

Politics.

It says, I woke up to the news last week that 33-year-old Democratic socialist Zoran Mamdani had beaten Andrew Cuomo in the Democratic primary for New York City mayor.

Charismatic, handsome, and social media savvy, Mamdani amassed an enormous following of young New Yorkers and spurred more than 50,000 volunteers to get out and canvas for him.

His promise of free bus rides, free childcare, and government-run grocery stores, and his vow to tax the rich reminded me of another young, good-looking, charismatic Democrat who upset the heavily favored party nearly a decade ago.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Back then, I was one of AOC's biggest supporters.

In fact, it was not too much to say that I helped her win.

In the fall of 2017, when I was a video producer at the left-wing millennial news company, Now This, I found myself at a small meet-and-greet event hosted by ARENA, a political action committee, dedicated to backing those new Democratic candidates.

The speakers that night were unknown candidates hoping to take back the House.

One of the candidates was

Elisa Slotkin, who has since become Michigan's junior U.S.

Senator.

And there was AOC, an unknown bartender turned volunteer for Bernie Sanders.

Out of all of the candidates, I hit it off with Alexandria.

She was beautiful, humble, articulate, and had a spark of charisma.

You could tell this girl was going places.

We're the same age, and it was easy to talk about our frustration and fear of Donald Trump, our love of Bernie, and the need for real change from universal health care to climate action to free college.

We exchanged numbers.

Two months later, I booked her for a video interview on the Now This program.

AOC arrived to our office, and by the end of the hour we felt like old friends my friend working behind the camera was also completely taken by aoc and her vision we agreed that aoc had tapped into something real and it was going to be popular with the coming generation i'm now 35 a mother of two and a homeowner like so many other people before me i've grown up and my eyes have my ideas have moderated Much of the hyperpoly being thrown at Mom Dani and his followers goes too far, for example, that Mamdani is a 100% communist lunatic, as Trump says.

I don't know if that's due.

But I no longer think that giving the government more of our money to run free programs is the right way to do things.

I spend time at the DMV, and tell me if you want government-run grocery stores

run like the DMV.

We need less government in our lives, less regulation, and lower taxes so individuals can flourish and create capital and prosperity.

Hopefully these young New Yorkers don't have to live through the downturn of New York City to learn the hard way that socialism never works.

It's a woman who helped AOC get elected.

I still have sympathy for the young people who see inequality and poverty and want to do something about it.

Their hearts are in the right place, but sadly the promises that charismatic people like Mom Dani and AOC sell are not the solutions that young people are seeking.

They have been mistakenly taught that our capitalist society is the source of all of their problems and the only way to fix it is with more government spending.

Whether from the lack of life experience or just pure ignorance, they fail to realize that programs offering free everything have to be paid for and nothing is free.

The politics and policies they promote will lead to a more centralized government with more power, higher taxes, and a higher cost of living.

I think we should extend these people grace and realize that most of them don't have any idea that they're supporting horrible ideas that literally ruin civilizations.

We should understand that they just want to make the world a better place.

That is what Mom Donnie, with his charming demeanor and understanding of social media, is promising to do.

He is still way ahead in New York.

It's weird because I have always been an optimist.

Yes, I'm an optimistic catastrophe.

I know that, but I've always been an optimist.

I've always believed in people.

I've believed in the country.

I believe people can change.

And the older I get, I see some of that wearing thin.

You know what I mean?

There are times I catch myself and I'm like, no, stop it.

Stop it.

You know the truth.

You've just had 60 years of being beaten into the ground.

Nothing's going to change.

Nothing's going to change.

And it's all a game.

And that's where the gift of youth comes in.

Because

it is the power to renew, to breathe life into the world that, frankly, has gone a little weary, has lost all of our hope.

We're tired.

we're cynical.

And then you, the youth, show up and you renew us.

And that's part of your job.

You are the hope

that

this entire country is starving for right now.

And soon enough, whether we like it or not, the world is yours to shape.

And it doesn't have to be shaped the way we want it shaped.

But let me just plea to those, give a plea to those who are young.

You need to understand something very, very, very

real.

Your passion, your energy, your hunger to change the world, it is fantastic and it is not invisible.

It's not going unnoticed.

And

there are those who see it and are excited by it, but there are those who see it and crave it.

They would...

They would gleefully take it, twist it, bend it, and weaponize it to their own ends.

Because history repeats itself.

History is not clean.

It's not clear-cut.

Revolution, war, protest, all of these things, they're not fairy tales.

They happened and they can happen again.

And for every cause that was just,

there was somebody lurking in the wings ready to hijack it.

Let me show you how this works.

Let me take you back to 1933.

The Hitler youth brainwashed millions of German children into Nazi ideology.

Why?

Because they knew the youth

they were optimistic.

They were idealistic.

They were looking for hope.

They were looking for something bigger than themselves that they could be involved in.

Well, they ended up spying on families, disrupting the church services.

They helped lead the German military's aggressive style.

And eventually, all of that led to the Holocaust.

And you know the rest of the story, unless you went to a public school.

In 1966,

who did Mao

rely on?

The Red Guards.

What did the Red Guards do?

They attacked the intellectuals.

They destroyed artifacts.

They led chaos and violence in the street.

They pulled university professors out.

and stoned them, killed them, beat them, and their families.

They were responsible for so much of the loss of freedom in China.

And who were the Red Guards?

They were the student-led youth groups.

They were

you, if you're in that age group.

That's who, and why.

It wasn't them.

They wanted to be a part of something bigger to change the world.

The Hitler youth wanted to be involved in something bigger, and there was always somebody who was older, who couldn't get it done themselves, and needed the power of the youth to be able to take that and

chain it and twist it to what he wanted.

1994, genocide in Rwanda.

One million deaths in 100 days.

They used machetes.

to kill

a million people in a hundred days.

Who was the main perpetrator of this?

The youth militia.

Misguided, wanting to be a part of something for justice, something to change the world,

used by leadership.

2020, BLM.

Americans, youth, flood the streets, hammers, fists, fire, mass destruction, ended lives, dreams, opportunities.

Remember, you have to have the black square for BLM.

Do you know that all of that money ended up, most of it, at BLM?

I'm not making this up.

Look it up.

BLM Incorporated?

That money was laundered.

That money was lost.

Useful idiot.

That's what Stalin used to say.

So

to the youth.

of America.

I know you want to change the world.

I know.

I do too.

I'm more jaded

because I just,

we've tried to do it over and over and over again.

And that's the problem.

The people of my age that are using you,

they know they can't do it because they've tried.

And so they're now co-opting you and they're convincing you that this is your idea.

It's that's exactly what, but they're not.

They're not.

Most times, most times, they are looking for their own greed and their own power.

So I know you want to change the world.

Just don't you want to make sure that you're on the right side of right and wrong?

Don't you want to make sure you're not on the popular side, not on the easy side, but on the truthful side?

This is really hard because

you want to believe.

And the people my age no longer believe many cases.

But I do.

I believe in you.

There are millions of us that believe that, you know, it's your turn.

It's your turn.

But don't be used.

Don't become a tool of somebody who couldn't fix it themselves because if they could, they would have.

They would have fixed it by now, but they didn't.

And now they're looking to you, not to lead, but to serve the power.

We all have to learn what

history is begging us to learn.

Yeah, the odds are stacked against real change.

But here's the good news.

Real change never comes from the odds.

It comes from the people, and usually young people.

But that change is often very dangerous if the young people don't know history.

They want to choose to be more than just useful.

You have to choose to be true

because you have a light that is dimmed as life goes on.

You are the balance between the people who still see the light, still believe in the light, but have worked their whole life to try to make that

light become stronger.

And in many cases, we have, in many ways, but in others, it just seems like it's never going to end.

It's never going to be a fight we win.

And that's the way power wants it.

And so we look down to you and we're like, they have the light.

They believe in the light.

And if that light is true, if it is based in thinking,

in reason,

in critical questioning,

then it's true.

It's a universal and eternal light.

And it's your job to not just carry it, but to guard it and protect it and refine it in the truth.

Because now is your turn.

And I am so excited to see what you're about to build.

Our job at my age is to protect them,

to point out the weasels that may be duping them, just like she did.

She's like, look, I get it.

I was there.

But that's not true.

If you base your life in truth and you guard that light,

You are going to do something remarkable.

The future will be brighter than anything you dared to imagine.

It is.

And the best part is, it will be yours.

It will be your success.

Not somebody else who is going to take your success and mock it.

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Welcome to the program.

We welcome Stu Bergeer, an answer to a crossword puzzle in the Wall Street Journal last week.

Hello, Stu.

And it shows how famous I am.

Oh, my gosh.

That's how you know.

That's how you know.

You walk into a bank.

They'll give you a loan now.

You'll be like, hello.

Check out four across.

I think it was 43 across.

Well, by the way, a lot of people ask

it three letters or five letters, Stu or Steve.

It was three letters, Stu.

Stu.

So that's how you know that I'm well known enough to

that my name isn't even known.

Right.

Which is impressive.

It's very impressive.

You're welcome for that name, by the way.

Yeah, that was your mistake giving me that name.

By the way, I was really my drunken co-host at the time.

That's true.

Yeah, who just said, and he is still.

And he said Steve, but it sounded like Stu and so I called it.

And then beyond that, Stu, it's really your fault

because it took six months for you to finally say to me, you know, that's really not my name.

It's interesting.

Like, who's whose responsibility is it to call a person their correct name?

Is it the person who's being called

an honest mistake and then somebody doesn't correct it ever?

I mean, but you're just so oblivious too.

That's another thing.

Because everyone else knew it was a joke.

But nobody else said anything to me.

Either that or you just don't understand social cues.

It could be that.

That's a possibility, but I still blame it on you.

I still blame it on you.

You think so?

Yeah, my drunken friend Vinny.

Yes.

Yes.

I will say

looking at my daughter was very excited about the crossword puzzle thing.

Because she loves crossword puzzles and she does them a lot.

So she was very excited about it.

And a couple people said, hey, well, I don't see Glenn getting a crossword puzzle hint named after him.

And the reason for that is that you're actually too well known.

It's easy to get.

No, I was a crossword puzzle, the New York Times crossword puzzle year.

Like 2010, maybe.

Right.

Yeah, yeah.

Right at the very beginning, right?

Like, if you want 2010, it would make sense because you'd be like, oh, I don't know.

Who is that?

There's a conservative within, you know,

conservative radio's Beck.

And the answer would be Glenn.

Mine said conservative radio is Bergeer, and the answer was Stu.

But now with Chat GPT, it's really simple.

Yeah, like I would say, you know what you can do with ChatGPT, and this is true, you could just take a picture of the entire crossword and say solve it.

And it will.

And it'll just give you every answer.

And then I don't know, you know, I mean, why are you working so hard on the crossword puzzle?

Exactly.

You know, just ChatGPT can do it quickly.

Yeah.

It doesn't seem like there's going to be much mental use coming up in the future.

Although I will say, ChatGPT, my favorite use of that, of AI technology currently is going to a store and you have to buy something and you just take a picture of the entire shelf and say, which one's best?

And then

it is incredible.

Like I had to do, I'm working on a project with my kids and I had to figure out like what glue was best.

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Wow, it's almost like we don't have to think at all anymore.

It does make you so lazy.

And this is just the beginning.

It's not even, it's not even.

The chip's not even implanted into my brain yet.

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You know,

up in front of me here in the studios, I have CNBC, I have MSNBC, Fox News, and CNN always on a monitor up in a corner here.

And

it just gives me an opportunity to look up and see what everybody's covering.

And CNN, for like the eighth time in the last two hours, the eighth time, sixth time, easy, they're talking about the starvation, the worst case scenario of famine in Gaza.

The worst case scenario of famine?

I don't know.

I've seen Ethiopia back in the day.

I mean, that looked like famine.

And what was interesting was mom and dad were both starving along with the babies.

Why is it we're not seeing starving adults?

We're only seeing starving babies.

Why is that?

Have you seen the pictures of mom or dad holding the babies that are supposedly starving and they seem perfectly healthy?

Does that seem reasonable to you?

There's no critical thinking here at all.

None.

None.

It does seem to just

default believe the worst about Jews.

That really does seem to be the foundation of the coverage on this stuff.

And I want you to know, I am sure there's hunger there, real hunger.

It's bad, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, how are you getting food?

There's no grocery stores, there's nothing.

And you have a regime that has shot people who are trying to get food.

You know, food arrives, and you know, then it goes to Hamas and they divvy the food out.

So you better be loyal to Hamas.

I'm sure all of that stuff is happening.

So I'm not dismissing that there's not real hunger there, and we should do everything that we can.

But, you know,

let's put some of the onus on Hamas as well and then can we stop listening to the people of Hamas tell us by showing these babies who now we know

have have

problems from birth

do we when you say we should do everything we can would you include in that um perhaps Hamas releasing the hostages that they're holding yes I would yeah would that be something that they could do Yeah, I would.

When you talk about everything you can to solve a hunger crisis, because that's the reason why it exists.

When you murder

1,200 people, whatever the number finally was,

and you commit mass rape and assault and everything else that they did, a war breaks out.

I mean,

I think it was Dave Marcus and an angel that made this point right after October 7th that I remember.

But like, can you imagine what the United States of America would do if that occurred on our territory?

Can you imagine the hell we would rain down on whoever did that?

If it was Canada, they'd be glass.

They would, we would turn the dirt and the sand into glass immediately.

We would, you're raping our children with glee and calling home to say, hey, mom, hey, dad, look what I'm doing.

We wouldn't tolerate it for a second.

There would be nothing left in the society.

They would pray to be in the the position that Gaza's in if they did that to us.

And then you look at this child.

The most famous picture coming out is a mother holding her son, and he's

malnutrition.

That's what they say.

Well,

according to reporting now,

Mohammed, the kid, has a serious,

has

several serious genetic disorders and has also been diagnosed with cerebral palsy.

The widely shared image is also cropped in a way that removes his younger, healthier-looking brother from the frame.

When do we stop?

When do we stop?

He has needed specialist medical supplements since birth, indicating that he's also likely suffered further due to the limited aid flow into Gaza and that medical equipment is in short supply and the health system has all but collapsed.

Okay, there's a story for you.

He's had this genetic disorder and now he needs special things and he's having a hard time, but not starvation, not genocide.

There doesn't even seem to be an attempt to explain this.

I mean, we all are aware of how food works, right?

Like, you eat food on a daily basis, you know, if you happen to work on this program, maybe 10, 12 times a day.

And you,

that gives you sustenance for a period of time.

That period of time is not long enough to sustain you if a invading army is keeping you away for food for two years,

right?

So

either there has been a massive change in tactics over the last week and a half or two weeks.

Right now, famine is obviously, by the way, this is not an official famine.

That's just a word they're throwing around to describe hunger.

It could be hunger.

It could even be starvation, but famine is very different.

Very specific.

I think there's been four famines over the past 20 years around the world.

And they're very specific.

Many times caused by communists.

I mean, certainly throughout history, that has been basically the main cause of famine.

But like

when when you're talking about,

basically, what they're describing is there's been, I think, 12.

Now, again, this is the Gaza Health Ministry, which I hesitate to even report, say what they're reporting because there is no reason to believe anything the Gaza Health Ministry ever says.

But their claim, which you'd assume is the most inflated possible, is like 122 people have died of starvation in Gaza since the beginning of the war.

Now, you could, is that famine?

Obviously not.

If it's true, it's really tragic.

Anyone who, you know, unless it's one of the Hamas murderers who's dying of starvation, then I'm not all that broken up about it, frankly.

But, you know, you're talking about children dying of starvation.

That's horrible.

Now, this is happening around the world at much higher numbers, right?

In other areas of the world that we just don't care about at all.

More than 100 people?

Yeah, check in on North Korea.

See how that's working.

Check in on certain areas of Africa.

How's that working out?

Many areas in Asia are having troubles with this.

It's not famine, but people do die of starvation and hunger around the world, and it's terrible, and we don't want it to happen.

Now, most people committing genocide don't typically

work to bring in aid.

I would say almost like you shouldn't depend on people trying to commit genocide to supply any food.

It's typically not what they do.

Again, look at Stalin.

One of the ways he committed genocide was making sure that they could not have access to food during the Holodomor.

But if you look at this type of situation, unless you can describe a specific

way that they're limiting food recently, right, in a different way that they decided, like after October 7th, they were just really nice supplying food for 10 months, and then three weeks ago decided not to provide food.

You can come up with some justification there.

That does not seem to exist, by the way.

There does not seem to be a pathway to explain why all these people would survive this entire time and then suddenly start starving.

And by the way, the examples we know of are people like the ones you're talking about that are supposedly starving while they're in Italy receiving treatment for rare diseases they have or ailments that they have that make them look terrible on television while they crop out

siblings that are fine,

while they crop out parents that are fine.

Why would that be?

How did they get to Italy?

Well, they got to Italy because Israel allowed them to go to Italy and helped evacuate them to Italy for treatment for the ailment that we're talking about.

Now, that might not be the case with all these people.

You know, it might not be.

I'm not saying that every single instance here, there is real tragedy happening in Gaza.

And that is, of course, the doing of Hamas.

Well, who's responsible for that?

I'll tell you that if you're going to try to rope in and say

this is not a coincidence that this famine is now at the front page while the UN is meeting to do a two-state solution, if you're trying to say those two things are connected at all,

it's a real stretch, Corey.

It's a real stretch.

It's a real stretch.

Real stretch.

And it's just like, it's eaten up immediately.

Just the same way every time

a hospital was supposedly hit by, you know, Israel, we find out later it wasn't.

And you know what's weird is the same people who are doing this never,

never cover it.

I mean, they were the ones that buried the Holocaust.

They never wanted to talk about any of the programs.

They never wanted to, they literally covered up the Holodomor in Ukraine, which was the starving of 7 million people in 12 months.

7 million people.

In 12 months.

And it didn't matter as long as you were a Ukrainian.

The Soviets wanted wanted you dead.

I mean, and they, and the New York Times went and covered it up.

They said it wasn't happening.

And it's amazing that the only ones they ever really want to cover seem to be.

And, you know, when it comes to CNN, that's Christian Anampur.

She is the head of their, or at least used to be, I'm sure.

You know, if she's not her, it's all her people.

She's massive influence on all the coverage coming out of the Middle East.

And she does not like Israel.

And, you know, that's, I mean, that's, that's why you're seeing this coverage.

I mean, it is.

Quite the understatement there.

Yeah.

She does not like it.

Yeah.

It is.

It's remarkable to me how you can know that these pictures, and I've seen that picture on CNN several times today.

Oh, they've been running it like crazy.

Yeah.

After everyone knows.

You know.

How are you still running that?

You know.

Look at the New York Times picture we just had up here.

If you're watching Blaze TV, it is a, you know,

very, looking like a very starved infant.

in the hands of an adult.

Yeah.

It does not seem all that starved.

No, that's the picture where they cut out the healthy looking kid, the healthy-looking sibling, too.

That's the picture.

Look at that one.

If that's true, if that, that, this one from the Daily Express, if that child is literally starving,

why doesn't the parent, why don't you see the parent's face too?

Because the parent should look like that baby, maybe even worse.

Right, worse.

You would feed your child before you would feed yourself.

Why are the adults cropped out of these pictures?

And if that picture is true, then we need to know it.

Right.

I saw some, you know, I have seen a few of these, but like social media influencer types that this stuff is now reaching.

People that don't

deal with the news and they're like, you know, I've been told not to talk about this, but can't we just all agree that babies should not be starved?

Can't we just agree that?

It's like, yeah, we can definitely all agree that babies should be starved.

We can't apparently agree that they shouldn't be murdered in the womb.

That's something we can't agree on, but we should all agree that they should not be starved.

I agree with that.

But do you think that there's any sort of responsibility on your part to know word one about the truth about the story?

Like, is there any responsibility on your part to, I don't know, look into it for 10 seconds?

No.

No, apparently not.

Children are starving somewhere, Stu.

Yeah, and you know, you don't care about any of the other ones.

Yeah.

You don't care about any of the other ones.

You don't care about any of them that are aborted.

You don't care about any of them that starve anywhere else.

You care only about this one situation.

And like, when that accusation comes up, and it does often, and sometimes unfairly, sometimes, you know, anti-Semitism charges are thrown around wildly for people who are just being critical of, you know, Netanyahu's policies.

That does occur.

But when you come to this summary and you're like, gosh, you don't care about starvation anywhere else.

You don't care about any of these things anywhere else, just this one instance, the only thing that just eats up all of your passions.

Why is that?

And I don't think it's completely insane to at least suspect potential

anti-Semitism from the Rashida Tlaibs, the AOs, from these Momdanis, the Elon Omars of the world.

From those people, absolutely, I agree with you.

But from the average person, no, they are a symptom of what I talked about yesterday, that Bonhoeffer talked about.

Stupidity.

They have just signed over their intellectual curiosity, their responsibility to think things through.

They've just signed it over to an ideology.

They've signed it over to other people.

No, it says that.

I know I have to be on that side.

That's what it is.

And they absolutely believe it.

Because they're stupid.

And I don't mean, you could be very, very smart.

and stupid at the same time.

Yeah.

You've just signed over all of your curiosity to an ideology.

And that's, and you have a responsibility to wake up, to wake up.

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And it looks fascinating.

This guy, he wakes up one morning.

It starts with him waking up one morning.

It's July 1st, and he's in bed.

And he wakes up and he gets married over the six-months period.

His wife gets pregnant, yada, yada, yada.

Everything is great.

And then it's Christmas and he goes to bed and he wakes up again and it's July 1st.

And he does that three times.

And he's like going nuts.

And this spook comes up and says, you're reliving the same months?

Yes, you're very rare, but you need to join us.

And it's this group of people that every time the earth is about to be destroyed, They reset

back to a certain time point.

And at this thing, they were trying to solve this pandemic, and they kept resetting back to July 1st.

It's wild.

I don't know if it's any good, but the first episode was this is Glenn Beck.

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Hello, America.

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I can't wait to talk to a new friend, I think, from North Carolina.

He and his family were caught up in

Hurricane Helene, and

it was bad.

It was very, very bad.

And

he met somebody from the Blaze and thought, well, I don't trust this guy.

He's a conservative.

Then he meets somebody from Mercury One and, uh-oh, this is Glenn Beck's charity.

Two times in a row.

I really don't know if I can trust this person.

And he allowed us to help and noticed something about us.

And he's not necessarily, I wouldn't, well, maybe I'll let him speak for himself.

Is he conservative or not?

I don't know.

But he has changed.

At least he has an open heart to

get to a place to where we can at least talk to each other, which is the whole point of everything.

Just talk to one another.

He's on with me here in just a couple of minutes.

Standby, 60 seconds we're with him.

Peace is not a press conference, nor is a ceasefire declaration.

you know, or a temporary pause in the fighting.

That's not peace.

Peace is a child who feels safe enough to sleep without her shoes on.

Peace is a a mom who no longer has to count the seconds to the nearest bomb shelter.

Right now, in Israel, that kind of peace is still a long way off.

You know, I know there's a lot going on in the news about Gaza and

the famine.

You know, be careful.

A lot of these pictures are of kids with different problems, not famine.

You're being used.

Now, do I...

Think that there is no starvation going on.

Of course there's hunger.

There's got to be in Gaza.

But let the food supplies come in.

Stop killing the rescue workers.

Let the food supplies come in.

So we got to do everything we can, but it means also be informed.

All right.

What's happening right now?

Right now, they're looking for a two-state solution, which is not going to happen.

Why?

Because Hamas doesn't want a two-state solution.

Can we just concentrate, let Israel fight their own wars.

Let's just concentrate on helping people that we can help.

The rest of the world tunes it out.

For me, it's about living a commandment.

Comfort, comfort my people.

And if that still matters to you, this is the moment to act.

Help out the people who are actually on the ground just with basic supplies.

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Matt Vince Wall is with us now.

He is a North Carolina hurricane victim and a guy who I shared his email on the air yesterday.

Hi, Matt.

How are you?

Hey, Glenn, I'm good.

How are you?

I'm good.

I imagine you're kind of saying that with a smile on your face because you could not have ever imagined you'd be on the program with me.

No chats.

No, no chats at all.

I love that.

So, Matt, quickly just recap your situation for anybody who missed it yesterday.

Yeah.

so like you said, we live in Western North Carolina.

And after

Hurricane Helene didn't hit our house super hard, but hit our neighbors very, very hard.

And during that time period, we were

trying to help a lot of people.

And we were pretty liberal during that time.

I think I sent your producer some photos of my son in like a Black Lives Matter onesie.

And I was wearing

a mask that said,

you know, Trump's Trump's slogan is Make America Great Again.

And I wore this red mask in 2020 that said, it hasn't been great.

Wow.

Anyway.

So wait, wait, wait, wait.

Were you the kind of person that would not have

would have exiled family members or friends if they said they were for Donald Trump?

We, oh man, this is so embarrassing.

But we made

my wife's dad take off his trump paraphernalia when he came to the house.

Wow.

We were that level.

Oh, okay.

So if he's, he remembers.

Yeah, no, I mean, I know people.

You know, on both sides, I know people.

So anyway.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So back to the hurricane.

Yeah, back to the hurricane.

So we were just trying to help people.

And it just seemed like the government was dropping the ball everywhere.

I mean, it was unbelievable.

And I did not feel like the news was getting out from how bad Hurricane Helene was.

And it didn't, it wasn't making sense to me at all.

Like the, it felt, I always thought that the real news was the mainstream news.

Like the news I saw on CNN or MSNBC.

or reading the New York Times was just that was the biggest news.

And if a story was big enough and good enough, it would just make the news.

but none of the insane stories that I was hearing from my neighbors and people on the ground was making the news at all like at all and we were talking with people who were

there watched their homes get flooded had applied to FEMA and had been waiting for months and FEMA would come out and do these press conferences and say hey

you know nobody's living in a tent and I was like, I was just driving through Suananoa and I just saw 12 tents.

Like, what are you talking about?

And so I would make these videos.

I had a drone and I would make these videos and say, hey, they're not telling you the truth because I live here and I walk out my front door and I see devastation and it's not being talked about at all.

And it was crazy because I got a call during this time period period from one of your reporters, Steve Baker.

And Steve called me because he wanted to talk about the FEMA camp that was just up the road from us and how they were not helping people.

They were packing up and they were going home.

And as soon as Steve messaged me and said he was a Blaze reporter, I was like, I don't trust this dude at all.

Like, he's related to, you know, Glenn Beck.

I, you know, honestly thought y'all are pretty like crazy right radical right wing.

That's what I had heard.

I know, you know, I know what they've done.

I know what the media has done to be man.

I got it.

Yeah.

And so I, you know, I didn't even like, I remember vividly my wife and I in bed saying, like, should we talk to this reporter?

Like, and we were like, okay, I guess we should do it, but we should have our guard way up.

And so we talked to Steve and steve completely disarmed us both it was it was unlike a phone call i've ever had where i thought the person calling me was going to be one way and they were completely like

i had this

i don't know thought in my head that any reporter on the right wing was was mean and not kind and just trying to push a narrative.

And I talked to Steve, and I can't emphasize this enough.

Steve let me speak.

He asked questions, and he earned my trust.

He disarmed me with his kindness.

And it was one of the most shocking moments I've ever had because no one would talk to us.

We had a direct, my wife works in film, and she had a direct line to CNN.

They ghosted her completely.

They would not talk to her about what was going on in Western North Carolina.

And it was like we were alone in a situation that we thought would be on the news non-stop and so to have steve like listen to us say yes you're not crazy this is actually happening and it's even worse than you imagined it's just unbelievable i've i've honestly never experienced anything like that so i just want to say thank you to steve so matt so what was your

what was happening in your mind when your worldview was crumbling just about the news?

When you were like, wait a minute, I thought CNN, I thought that was you know, and they're ghosting you.

What was going through your mind and your honestly, your heart when you're like, uh-oh, wait a minute, something's really wrong here?

It just felt it

honestly, it felt like I just described.

You would just think that the news is the news.

And if a story is big enough, it makes the news, no matter what.

But I did not even imagine that because it was an election cycle and that the hurricane reflected poorly on the response of the current leadership, that they would just not talk about the story at all.

I mean, there were,

I posted tweets, and I did not have a Twitter following at the time, and I posted tweets about what was going on in Western North Carolina, and they would get millions of views because the stories were so insane.

Like FEMA promising 100 homes to people in Western North Carolina by Thanksgiving, and then they only delivered 40.

Or the fact that there were no homes delivered between September 27th and the middle of November, zero.

And you'd think, and there were people sleeping in tents all over.

And I thought, this would be on the news.

This would be the news.

And it just never was and it blew my mind.

And at that moment I knew there's a bent to this media.

Like there is a bent because it's not

the economics.

Because if it were the economics, these stories are getting millions of views on Twitter.

Like if the stories are real and the stories are crazy, they're just choosing not to cover them.

It's an act of choice to not cover the stories happening in Western North Carolina.

And that was the start for me where I thought, I don't think I can trust these guys anymore.

And that worldview just kind of started crumbling for me that the news maybe had an insane bent.

And I just didn't realize it because one would think that if every news organization told you the same story, that that story and the bent to that story, there would be no bent because news organizations would hold each other accountable.

Like the story you'd read on the New York Times is the same story you see on CNN, is the same you see in the Washington Post.

So you're like, oh, if all of these people are telling you the same thing, they're not all colluding,

right, to tell you a story with a bent, would they?

And it just turns out, yeah, yeah, they are.

I will tell you, I feel for you.

I've had, um, I've had maybe two or three of those moments where my worldview collapsed on me.

Everything that I thought was real, I realized, oh my gosh, it's not like that at all.

And it's like, at least I did, I almost went through mourning in a way to where

you're just losing such a big part of what you believed.

And

it was just, it's soul-crushing.

I don't know if you felt it that hard, but there's been a couple of things like that for me where it's just been soul-crushing because you just, you just knew.

And now,

no, it's not that at all.

And I just, I honestly, looking back, offloaded so much of my critical thinking

to

the news and just said, oh, okay,

I read headline.

Therefore, I know the truth.

No more investigation is needed.

And that's on me.

I shouldn't have done that.

And once you actually,

sometimes even when you read the whole article, you can actually get the truth of the story.

It's shocking to me how many headlines are just

virulently anti-GOP, Republican, conservatives.

But then you read the article and you're like, wait a minute, I shouldn't have just read this article.

But it really, it kind of came crashing down for me at that point.

So, Matt, I want to take you to the second part of the story, but let me break for 60 seconds

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Okay, so we're talking to Matt Vince Wall, and he and his wife,

not conservatives,

very, very liberal.

And then Hurricane Helene hit.

Reporter from the Blaze comes, talks to him.

They get a fair treatment.

When the story came out, did you think it was fair and accurate, Matt?

So fair, so accurate.

Yeah, absolutely.

Good.

And then what happened?

And then

I get a DM from a guy named JP Decker.

And he was with a charity that I'd never heard of,

which I now know is your charity, Mercury One.

And again, like, honestly, there were a lot of people that offered help during the storm that just ended up never following through.

There was a lot of people who also lied and said they were going to help people and didn't follow through.

So I'm very wary

of JP.

And so we kind of had this list of people we had been collecting over time of people that needed help.

It was this Excel spreadsheet, and we worked hand in glove with a guy named Sean Hendrix, an awesome human being,

volunteer firefighter.

And we had just created this list of people who needed help.

And so we were like, what if we send one of these people to JP and see what happens?

See if he actually get help.

And so we sent a woman to JP

who was living in a tent outside of her home.

A tree fell through the middle of her house, crushed it,

and insurance had denied her saying that

there was water damage and they didn't cover that.

But the truth of the matter was it rained.

Right.

And that was the water damage, but they didn't cover it.

So she was just living with her son.

In a tent outside her home, not knowing what to do.

And I,

we, my wife and I called JP and said, can you, you, she's just asking for building materials so she can rebuild her home.

Can you do that?

And he said, absolutely no problem.

And we're like, really?

Really?

And two weeks later, we get a call from her and she said, they followed through.

I've got the building materials.

And we were like, oh my goodness.

And JP didn't ask us for anything in return.

He didn't ask us to post a story onto X.

He just said, who else you got?

And so we were like, well, we got a lot of people, JP.

And so from then on,

we became text friends.

I still text JP to this day.

But the thing that solidified it for me was

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And FEMA had put a bunch of these thousands of people in hotels in Western North Carolina because they couldn't deliver housing fast enough.

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But their hotel vouchers were going to run out tomorrow.

And it was 12 degrees outside.

And these were people with kids, older people.

One was a disabled veteran.

And they were calling me crying because they said,

we went to the front desk and they said, we have to be out tomorrow.

tomorrow and we don't have a home to go to.

And I started getting not one or two, but dozens of these phone calls.

And I was like, what do you mean?

FEMA forgot to extend the hotel vouchers?

And sure enough, they just forgot and they didn't communicate it to the hotels.

And so.

I can get on the phone with JP and I was like, I need some serious help because, you know, I don't have the money to extend hotel vouchers for these people that are calling me crime.

He said, don't worry, I'll take care of it.

Hang on, hang on, pause.

Wait, wait, wait.

Pause the story there.

We'll come back with the rest of the story.

Because this is the story.

I got a phone call when this was happening, Glenn.

And I don't remember

what they were asking me for or what, but I remember saying to JP, is this real?

Are you sure this is real?

And he said, oh, it's absolutely real.

I didn't know you were the guy on the other end of the phone.

But I can't wait to hear the rest of the story.

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Man, Van Swallow's with us.

I talked about him yesterday.

He wrote a

tweet thanking me for something that I didn't have anything to do with, but Charity and the Blaze had a lot to do with on the Hurricane Helene victims.

And we were just talking about how on January 9th, this is a guy who was very, very liberal and didn't trust us or anybody else.

You know, maybe rightfully so.

And he said, on January 9th, our phones began to blow up.

FEMA forgot to extend hotel vouchers for thousands of Hurricane Helene victims in hotels in the middle of a snowstorm.

I spent the day on the phone with terrified people not knowing where they were going to sleep tomorrow, people with kids, disabled veterans, whole families.

I called Mercury One charity frantic.

They extended the stay of the entire hotel's worth of Hurricane Helene victims.

I remember getting a call on this, Matt, and I don't honestly remember why they called me because they never involve me in any of this.

You know, they just, they're trained to just move and they just go.

But I remember saying to JP, are you sure this is happening?

This sounds so crazy.

Are you sure this isn't a scam?

And he's like, no, no, no.

And I didn't know that you were the one on the other end of the phone telling him about it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was really wild.

It gets even wilder.

We actually had a specific North Carolina U.S.

senator emailing us and texting us people that were calling him.

and saying, can you help these people?

They're getting kicked out of hotels.

It was a crazy day.

It was a really wild day, but JP followed through and he paid for an entire hotel's worth of people so that they would not get kicked out.

Again, it was like 12, 14 degrees outside.

It was so cold.

And FEMA later put out a statement.

It was like 10 p.m.

that night saying, oh,

our bad.

You know, you're extended, you know, but people were freaking out all day long

and um and not only that some people did get kicked out uh because the message didn't get to the hotels in time um but thankfully um the people who were staying in the hotels that jp extended they they were good for for weeks um and finally the the government sort of got its act together later and

our House of Representatives said, you know, you got to give people at least 21 days notice, not, you know, no notice before you're kicking people out of a FEMA voucher hotel.

But it was

a very good day.

You wrote over the weekend, this is the moment that the wall came fully crashing down.

What do you mean by that?

For me, JP

and his kindness

just threw me for an absolute loop.

And

I had put, honestly,

you, Glenn, and some others in a category of non

unable to be empathetic,

unable to see the other side and help.

I'd always built up in my head that

liberals were the empathetic, kind ones, and conservatives were just the cold-hearted, truth-mean ones.

And I don't know

where along the road I got that

in my head.

But when JP

said, we got this, no questions asked, we're going to do it.

And he spent his whole day, I think he was with you for this, but he spent his entire day on the phone with me helping victim after victim after victim.

It was like, I don't know, JFE can tell, it was like 18 hours that day, just him trying to help as many people as possible.

That's when my mind changed.

And I was like, there's something to this, and I don't know exactly what it is, but you know what it is now?

It's just,

I built up liberals are good, conservatives are bad, and

that's just not true.

I think it's more than that.

I think it's more than that.

And I think you know it because you wrote, you've just done something with your five-year-old son.

You took him someplace he's never been before.

We did end up going to church.

Um,

and it was charities like Mercury One,

um, Samaritans Perse, we saw a ton.

Yeah, they're great.

And I said, there's got to be something that they know that I don't know.

Um,

and I had, you know, I had been to church

and I had left the church.

Um, and my son, my five-year-old son, had never been to church.

My wife and I had kind of sworn it off.

And during Halleen, we just kept seeing churches,

local churches, Mercury One, Samaritan's Purse, just jump in and be involved and ask for nothing in return.

And we were like, all right, that's something we want.

We want to be involved with that.

And so we went to church about three months ago.

And

we've been going for three months and we found a home church.

And it's been incredible.

You know,

church is always looked at as a building or something else and it's really not.

Church,

you know, when

Jesus talked about churches, he didn't mean church.

There were no buildings back then.

It was just groups of people.

And, you know, when I was out in North Carolina, that was more of a, that was more of a Sunday service worship and church for me than anything I've ever gotten in any building.

I mean, you know, it's just, it's, it's when people are doing the right thing and they want to do the right thing and they want to, they're serving one another.

You know, Ben Franklin said

he believes in God, that God will hold us accountable for how we treat one another, and the best way to serve him is to serve our fellow human being.

And I think that's the American church.

I mean, I just think that's, that's who we're supposed to be.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

And for us, it was just such a godsend.

We did not know how badly we were starved for community

and how amazing it was to see a community of people

rally around and help others.

And it kind of pushed us to realize maybe we'd been really, really selfish

and had focused on ourselves too much and we wanted to give back.

We saw a community of people giving back and we wanted to be a part of that.

And it was very much an eye-opener for all of us.

And

even our daughter told us, we didn't even know it, that she was a Christian at the time.

What?

What?

You didn't even know, like, you didn't even feel comfortable telling us.

You know, for us, that was just a very eye-opening thing that maybe we needed to be a little

more open-minded.

You know, it was really wild.

You know, Matt,

I sit in the studio every day and I blab a lot.

And

I do it.

I pray for the audience every day.

And I say every day, Lord, just help me hear one person.

Help me just say something that one person needs.

And, you know, you sit in here and you don't have any idea if it's all just falling on deaf ears, if you have no idea.

And

your letter means the world

to me.

And

I'm so glad that we were able to

do something to help you and your community and your family.

And I hope we can call you a friend, even if we disagree on stuff.

We're going to.

So even if we disagree on stuff, that we can always call each other friends.

Thank you so much for helping us.

You know, I'd never listened to your show,

and it didn't matter because you helped me anyways.

So thank you.

You're welcome.

I hope to meet you someday in your wife and your family.

And that rebel Christian in

your daughter.

Wow.

She's pretty cool.

Yeah.

I think she's way cooler than her parents.

Yeah.

Matt, thank you so much.

My best to your family.

Thank you, Glenn.

Appreciate it.

You know,

as I'm listening to him, I look up on my wall over here.

It's something I see every single day, and I read it every day.

And as I'm listening to him, I was looking over at something that my daughter gave me for either Christmas or my birthday one year.

And I've hung it up for years in the studio.

And it's a quote that I absolutely love.

It says, you are good,

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You must be good for something.

You must contribute good to the world.

The world must be a better place for your presence.

And the good that is in you must be spread to others.

In this world so filled with problems, so constantly threatened by dark and evil challenges, you can and must rise above mediocrity, above

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You can become involved and speak with a strong voice for that which is right.

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I do very little.

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And you do it.

And thank you to every single member of Mercury One.

It has been a remarkable few years with them.

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Welcome to the program April in Tennessee.

Hello, April.

Hello, Glenn.

Hi, how are you?

I'm great.

I just wanted to say thank you for everything you've done for the Hurricane Helene victims.

We are in East Tennessee, and

I don't know what we would have done, honestly, without the help from all of the ex platform tweets from Matt Van Swoll and his wife, and just that whole group.

Sean Hendricks, Steve Baker.

I know I'm leaving out so many, but I have not actually had the pleasure to meet any of these these people, but they have no idea how they've changed our life here in East Tennessee, just getting the media attention on the storm and the flooding and the missing victims and the people who didn't have food and water and those people who were homeless.

And it was quite

a disaster.

And without

those people, making noise and quite frankly being a nuisance to get somebody's attention,

I don't know that we would even be at the point that we are now in

the steps of recovery.

Because if you come to this town and visit, we're in East Tennessee, we're in Carter County.

The river totally destroyed the area.

It took out one of our local high schools.

And

no one seemed to really care.

There was so much going on with Trump, Trump, Trump.

We're obsessed with Trump.

We're laser focused on Trump this, Trump did that.

And it's it's like when we didn't have communication for two weeks, you should try that sometime.

It is hard not to have communication with your family, your friends.

My dad, he was in the hospital at the time.

We couldn't even get out of the area to go to the hospital.

And you could drive 30 minutes to Johnson City, Tennessee, where I work.

And it was like nothing ever happened.

I know.

It was like...

That's crazy.

Nothing ever happened.

And then I would drive home and I would see the destruction and I would see the debris.

And I mean, mountains of debris, bigger than buildings, mountains of this stuff.

It's still here, by the way.

Still here.

Can I ask, April, are we still there?

Is Mercury One still there?

I'm not sure exactly if you're still here now, but I know that Mercury One was very involved.

We saw their vehicles and their people, and every time I saw them, I just wanted to, you know, tell them thanks and give them a hug.

And, you know, I tweeted out you're a national treasure, Glenn, because you are.

Because if it had not been for you, Dr.

Phil, Matt, and like I said, that group of people there in North Carolina, Western North Carolina, this place would still probably look a lot worse than it does now.

Well, I'm glad we could help out.

And I will check on you.

I'll talk to JP today and check on you.

Thank you so much.

I really, really appreciate it.

Wonderful.

God bless you.

Thank you, Glenn.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you you very much.

It's great.

Great organization, and it's helped so many people.

You know, it's weird to hear, but around the world.

2009, I got a prompting that said, build the framework of hope.

And I remember thinking, what is that?

And it's really, and despite of all of my best efforts, it's exactly what it's become.

Yeah, and it turned into kind of a generational thing, too.

There's a story today of, this is a great summary of it.

Fun story coming out of a house this week.

The owner's grandparents used to give their tithes to Glenn Beck's ministry, Mercury One, years ago.

And now, guess who is sponsoring the materials to rebuild their home?

The grandparents' home?

Yeah, Mercury One.

Wow.

Wow, that is really cool.

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