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I had a really hard time today putting together this program because there's so much in the news that quite honestly,

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So there's a couple of things I want to talk to you about today.

My son moved out of the house in spring.

This weekend was my daughter.

She moves out of the house in a couple of weeks.

And

my other kids my older kids are moving up north

and it's tanya and i

and it's weird

the house is so quiet

i have several things that i want to talk to you about today

One of them is just about being a dad because I don't even know what that means anymore.

You know, you get to this place, and again, it might just be me.

But I didn't have a good dad.

My dad wasn't there.

My dad was always working.

My dad taught me how to work.

And he didn't do it by like, get after it.

He taught me just by the way he lived his life.

And

he loved his job.

He was passionate about it.

But he also was passionate about putting food on the table and making sure the kids had everything.

But I didn't have a relationship with my dad till I was 30.

And

I knew I was sacrificing my

family to some degree.

We all talked about it as a family, even the kids.

Because it takes an all-in kind of thing to do this job.

You know, you're constantly working.

The news never stops.

It's 24 hours a day.

You constantly are thinking because you have three hours of just running monologue to fill.

And so your whole life becomes,

in some ways, about this.

You're not somebody who can just turn the job off.

And I knew

when

we hit 2006 or 7 and I saw what was coming our way.

I had a meeting with a family and I said, you know, it's going to change everything in our life, good and bad.

Do we want to do this as a family?

And we said, yes.

And now

that they're moved out

and I walk around in this big house,

all this stuff.

I've spent so much time

thinking none of this was worth it.

Because it's just stuff.

And I walk around that house and I feel like

all I miss, everything could be gone, and all I miss are the kids.

I'm going to talk right directly to dads because maybe it's not like this for you, but it is for me.

I didn't grow up with a dad who knew how to be a dad.

I mean, at 30, my dad said, I don't know how to be a dad.

He said, But

if you will sit with me through those uncomfortable moments where I don't know what to say to you,

and maybe you don't know what to say to me, we can find our way together.

And we did.

It's weird because, you know, you think as a dad when the baby's firstborn, mom, mom gets the look in the eye every time she breastfeeds.

I mean, God is just so amazing.

He just built a milking machine where the child has to look at the mom's face.

It's crazy.

And they bond.

And for a while, after you have a baby, you're like,

all right, well, I'm not needed here, I guess.

You are, but you don't get that same thing.

And that continues for a long time.

I mean, you could be there with a whole hospital of stuff, but mom, I need mom.

And then there's this brief moment.

I don't know, maybe about seven or eight.

Maybe it goes to 12 or 13

where dad becomes a little magical.

And you think,

I love this.

But then

they hit the teenage years and you're both garbage.

And now as they move out, the phone rings for mom.

And I'm not complaining because this is the way it was.

It's the way I think this is the way it is in everybody's family.

You know, mom will say, do you want to talk to your dad?

Sure.

And you talk to dad for a while.

And it's kind of uncomfortable and weird at times.

But you don't call mom.

You don't call, you call mom.

You don't call dad.

And to be honest with you, I feel a little ripped off.

I feel.

And I'm only saying this in the time that I'm living in right now.

I know this changes.

I hope it changes, but it changed with me in my 30s.

You know, you're kind of like, as a dad, you're kind of like, yeah, I wasn't home all the time because I was making sure that we had X, Y, and Z.

And so you feel like at the end of the race, you're like,

didn't get it.

I didn't get what I was hoping for.

And that's the biggest problem.

When have you ever gotten what you were looking for?

When have you ever gotten?

I think that's the problem is

I don't know what I expected.

I know what I hoped.

And my wife keeps saying, it's going to happen.

It's going to happen.

I wasn't close to my dad.

But it's really frustrating because I understand my dad so much better now.

And I

wish he was around

so I could tell him that.

You know what I've come to?

And I don't know if we can apply this.

That's where I'm going to try to do.

Apply this to everyone I meet.

What I figured out about my dad

was

he was doing the best he could do

When you come from an abusive family, my father was abused, his father was abused.

My dad tried to stop the abuse, and he did to some degree, except he became his mother,

who was just the receiver of the abuse.

It's really hard, and it takes generations to stop it.

And I really believe that families,

to really turn a family, takes generations.

I see these families who have been great for generations.

And they're amazing.

Amazing.

And I don't know if you can turn a family around that fast, but

because you have to change so much.

And I don't know about you, but as a father, as a parent, most of the time I'm bluffing.

i have no idea what i'm doing no idea when tanya and i look at each other all the time like do not let the kids see that

and i guess if we

how can we expect someone to look at us and saying he did the best he could

he really really tried

and he really failed, but he was doing the best he could.

How can we expect that if we're not giving that to everyone we meet?

And I think that's hard.

It was hard for me because I didn't live my dad's life.

I just saw what he was doing and I'm like, what are you doing?

Why would you do that?

What was

he busy trying not to be his father?

That's why.

And it took everything in him not to be that.

And I may have spent too much of my life trying not

to be

that,

and not enough of my life trying to be what I wanted to be.

And my excuse was, I think, is I don't, I've never seen it.

I don't know how that is.

I don't know what that is.

So I look at the news today

and I see,

hey, the CIA chief just came out and said, we got it dead to rights now.

There's going to be an explosive announcement this week with all this documentation.

And I looked at it and I went, and

so what does that mean?

Oh no, I can get upset.

There's even more.

There's even more out there that condemns the people that have been doing all of this stuff, that they've been playing with our emotions since 2015, and they knew it the whole time, and everything was a lie.

Oh my gosh, now I'm really upset.

And

because is anyone going to go to jail?

Nah, probably not.

There's so many things in this monologue I'm trying to tell you, and I don't know if any of it's coming through.

But on that is, and I think it's all tied together, we have to just release the outcome.

It doesn't mean we're not engaged, but it just means we have to stop wanting

an outcome.

We have to stop wanting people to go to jail.

I don't know if I can do that.

We have to stop wanting

to be the perfect dad.

We just have to take every moment and just do the next right thing.

And I don't know how to do this because I am so future.

I just, I've always looked.

The reason why I'm successful is that I can see over the horizon.

I can point to and say, that's the destination.

But I have to do that while relinquishing

the outcome.

And I've done it on some things.

I've done it.

I know

when I know.

what I'm doing is what God wants me to do, I can release the outcome.

Because I know whatever it is he's got for me, it's going to be fine.

Maybe we're living under a bridge, but it's going to be fine.

It's going to be exactly what we want, and it's all going to lead to joy.

But when I don't do that, when I don't release the outcome, I am caught in this horrible place of just second-guessing everything.

What did I do?

What did I not do?

How could we do this?

How can I make that happen?

What a waste of time.

I have a lot to talk to you about today.

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So my niece and nephew are in town.

They're staying with us.

And they brought their son, OE, who I just love, Owen.

And he's five, four, five?

I don't know.

A writ, a right, a good uncle.

Anyway,

so we're driving in the car yesterday, and he's just having a blast in the car, and we're looking at the airplanes as they're flying over and everything else.

And

he said,

are you happy?

And I said,

I logically think to myself, am I happy?

Yeah, I'm happy.

I said, are you happy?

He said, yes, I'm so happy.

And

in that moment, I went, I want to be like that.

Not even think about it.

Are you happy?

Yes.

And we lose that as kids.

And I think it's because they don't have to think about

the future.

They're living in the moment.

And I don't know yet how to balance that.

But I think that's the only way to live your life.

And I don't mean be irresponsible.

I don't mean just, you know, don't pay attention to the bills or to the world or to the whatever.

You have to do that.

But relinquishing the past to the past, relinquishing the future to the Lord and just doing the right thing in the moment, because that's all he was.

I said, are you happy?

Yes, I'm so happy.

These crackers are so good.

I mean, it was like joy for the cracker that he's had a million times.

These crackers are so good.

I said to my staff this morning, I said, I think this is what

the torch is supposed to be.

Because I don't know exactly.

I'm just doing what I'm told to do.

And I think this is the reason that I'm supposed to make this gear change in

January

is I'm supposed to create something

that

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You know, and it's...

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He wrote in 1943

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it just so explained what's going on in today's world on both sides.

And then Ricky, my producer, she said, hey, by the way, I just sent you something that was posted on social media.

Did you read it?

And I'm like, no, I didn't, I didn't see it.

And she said, read this.

And the two go hand in hand as a solution.

One is, hey, here's the problem.

And the other one is, oh my gosh, look, that's the solution.

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So I had another

revelation this weekend.

It was a heavy loop dad learning weekend for me on so many levels.

But

Cheyenne, I've called her Lucy her whole life because when she was, I mean, she practically came out Lucille Ball.

She has been funny her whole life.

I mean, hysterically funny.

And such, like Lucy, so innocent in her comedy when she was young.

She didn't know.

She was just funny.

And

then as she grew up, I sat there and I watched her at four years old going to these ballet recitals where I just wanted to claw my eyes out.

I couldn't take it.

I just couldn't take it.

And,

you know,

she had Russian ballet.

There's this place that we live in, one of the suburbs of Dallas.

There's this Russian ballet dancer and her Russian ballet dancer daughter that give lessons.

Oh, if you want to have your kids come back with bloody feet,

you know,

we are very good at doing that.

What do you mean your kids cannot come to?

Okay, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

You're afraid the Russian mafia is going to come after you.

And at four or five, the kids are like, dad, the Russian mafia is real.

So she, you know, she went through this and we'd go and watch these.

ballet performances and I just wanted to claw my eyes out.

And

but I would watch her and her mom and I would sit, you know, towards the front, and we would just look at her like, smile, smile.

She was just so intense.

And she's like, yeah, you smile.

I've got the Russians behind me.

Anyway.

And then she got into musical theater and everything else.

And

this weekend was her last performance at this local community theater.

And

she was one of the Bowery boys in,

what's that called?

Oh, shoot, I saw it four times this weekend.

I now can't remember it.

No.

Oh, geez.

It'll come to me.

Anyway, so she was in this show.

And

I watched her the whole time.

I went four times.

And I watched her the whole time.

And she...

did not lose focus or drop character once.

And every moment she was giving it 100%

and it was amazing to watch 100%

and she was just so accurate with every move and she was amazing to watch at least I'm I know you've got kids too so you know like give me a second just to brag on my daughter for just a second

and I thought

I can't wait to see her.

I wish in this show she had the starring role.

And she did too, but she got over it, you know, that day.

And she was like, it's going to take me a day to, you know, mourn.

It's good to take a moment just to mourn for, you know, what could have been.

And then I move on.

And she did.

And she went amazing.

And

at intermission, at two of the shows,

two parents came up to me and said,

I want you to know

the difference your daughter made in our son or daughter's life.

Because it's a community theater and it focuses on kids.

And

one of them said

our son was

just didn't feel like he belonged there and got a role and couldn't do it and was worried that he just was going to look stupid and not fit in.

And he was sitting out at a curb and he was, you know, wanting mom and dad to come pick him up.

And

they said, your daughter came out and sat on the curb

and said, I know how you feel.

And just talked to this kid.

And they said, two parents,

the pivotal moment in their life, I think, is going to involve your daughter.

Because it totally changed their perspective.

Somebody else said pretty much the same thing.

This kid had to hit a high A and he was having a hard time.

He couldn't hit it.

And

Cheyenne took him and said, You can do this.

You are blocking yourself from doing it.

You're afraid of that note.

You can hit that note.

Just hit that note.

Just stop thinking about it.

Just hit the note.

I know you can hit that note.

You know you can hit that note.

Hit the note.

And he hit the note and it was amazing.

And

his parents came up and said,

same thing.

And

I'm listening to them.

And you know me well enough to know just tears running down my cheeks.

And I thought,

honor.

I wish I would have

known what I knew then from those parents because I wanted to bring her honor cords, you know, for graduation, you know, they always have honor cords.

And this is not graduation, but this was her last performance with this group.

And

I so wanted to bring her honor cords

because I thought she's graduated with honors.

She's not,

she wasn't the lead role or anything else.

She

found a way, and I don't think she views it this way at all because it's just who she is.

I am more proud of her for what she's done backstage.

I mean, she was on stage, and in character, she saw one of the kids had their shoe untied, and it's a lot of dancing.

And in character, she kneeled down to tie the kid's shoe.

I mean, she was constantly, she's constantly like that.

She gets it from her mother.

And

I think sometimes, to turn this around to us,

when we are so set on our outcome, our outcome is to be the lead.

Our outcome is to do this,

that we miss the moment and we miss what's more important.

You know, there's only one lead in

a show, every show, show of life.

There's a lead.

You may not be the lead.

So what are you doing?

What are you doing?

Are you complaining that you're not the lead?

And I mean this in every situation.

It's not just, you know, whatever.

It's every situation.

Is the role of support even more important

than maybe the lead?

Because the lead gets all the applause.

But the ones that make the real difference are the ones behind

that support that one.

And that doesn't normally get the accolades, which makes me think, you know, why are you doing things that you're doing?

You know, if you want the credit, you'll get the credit here and then, you know, good luck upstairs.

Where if you're doing it just because it's right, or in her case, it's just who you are,

what a great accomplishment that is.

And maybe nobody notices.

Maybe no one notices.

But how

game-changing can each of us be

quietly?

It goes back to not wanting outcomes, I think.

I don't know if any of this makes sense to you, but maybe someday it will.

Maybe you're not that place in your life.

Does this relate to you with your kids and where you, I mean, because you're behind me about 10 years.

Yeah, for sure.

You think about this stuff all the time.

As a parent,

you attempt to have an impact that's positive, and you have no idea whether you're doing it or not, and

you don't know whether you're supposed to care about what the reaction is or not.

That is the

part that's getting me.

I care about the reaction, and I'm like, you selfish SOB, what?

It's not about you.

You're like, yeah, but yes, it is.

No, it's not.

No, it's not.

Well, it kind of is, right?

You're trying to, it's about

every person has self-interest.

That's not, that's not, there's nothing wrong with that.

You want those things to align, ideally, right?

And that's a good way for them to align, right?

You're doing a good job, hopefully, for your kids and that they appreciate it.

And wouldn't that be wonderful?

Do you think our grandparents thought like this?

Probably not, but I don't know.

I mean,

our grandparents did some things that were absolutely incredible.

I think maybe we've figured out some things, too, from that experience that maybe has improved it.

There's ups and downs from that.

It's just, you know, because I was thinking, you know, one of the problems that we have with the youth, we were talking about this earlier today, about when you get married.

What were you talking about?

There's a really interesting new study that just came out about marriage rates.

And there's that typical thing that everyone says, oh, you know, 50% of people, marriages end in divorce.

And what they're finding now is that that is just a really outdated statistic.

There was a time where that was true, but it is no longer true.

In fact, the people who are getting married most recently, which the decade of the 2010s, where they have any

research on this, it's trending.

The rates of parents or of families divorced staying together are better than every decade since the 50s.

Only the 50s has a better rate of staying together.

Every other decade, we are outperforming them now.

People that have been married in the 2000s, 2010s.

And there's a bunch of different, there's a really interesting argument there between

what the reasoning for that is and how you should think of marriage, which is part of the reason why that's true is that

researchers believe because people are getting married later.

They're not necessarily going into marriages really early and then maybe marrying a high school sweetheart and realizing that wasn't the right thing for them long term and those led to more divorces where now people it's this they call it the um foundation versus capstone debate so like where found marriage is marriage a foundation of your life that you get into early and it's the entire building block or is it a capstone where you go through you live have a bunch of life experiences maybe build a career do things that you maybe are more frivolous early in your 20s and you get past them and then you get to a place where now I'm really thinking about that and I want to settle down and get married and have kids and the way of that, that sort of debate between them, there are positives on both sides of it.

I don't think it's

an easy answer.

I do think I was a better dad at my late 30s than I would have been in my early 20s.

Oh, I was.

But

you went through it both times.

Yeah, I went through both and I was.

However, I don't think that it is that you have to wait to get married.

I personally, I'd like to go the other way.

Have you met the next generation?

Have you spent, well, yes, you have.

they're living in your house a couple of them

the the new generation is different they're just different um the the uh 15 to 25 year olds there's a real difference in that group um

they're more responsible they're less whiny about things they understand things in a deeper different way it's really remarkable that's interesting because i i think you know the the standard critique of now it was always about millennials which you when you're talking 15 to 25 you're below you're in gen z there

um but the the typical complaint was that they were whining about everything yeah well and and here's the and here's the interesting thing i think that it's not that

uh

it's not that our you know we got to wait to get married till you're 30.

no you should

i i'm i'm i'm really turning on this whole you know you got to be out in playtime when you're 13.

Why?

Why?

Playtime, I get playtime.

And playtime is important throughout your life.

But shouldn't we expect more from our kids than playtime?

I mean, when you go back in history and you see what kids, what kids accomplished, what life was like, and how they went out and they were interning, they were not interning, they were,

you know, being shepherded, apprentice,

when they're 12 and 13.

We don't expect as much from our kids.

And

maybe

one of the things we have to do is start expecting more from our kids.

Maybe we need to be, you know, you need to grow, you need to grow up a little bit.

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There is a lot going on today, and I want to start with a solution and a different,

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You know, I read something over the weekend from Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

You don't remember who Dietrich Bonhoeffer was.

He was a pastor.

He was a Lutheran pastor in Germany.

He was a pacifist.

He, you know, talked about peace, peace, peace forever and

taught peace.

And then

it got to a place in, I think it was 1942 or 43, he was like, this has got to stop.

And so he threw his hat in with Valkyrie, which is that Tom Cruise movie.

Before the movie, it was an actual event, but

and

he was caught and thrown in jail.

And he wasn't executed.

And he was kind of executed

kind of by mistake in the end,

because he died 15 days, I think, before Hitler died, killed himself.

And they were just executing everybody in this one prison, but he wasn't supposed to be in that prison, but that's a different story.

He has written some of the most beautiful things in prison.

I mean, his understanding of marriage, and he was never married, had a love of his life outside of prison.

And he was like, We can't forget me, forget me, forget me, forget me.

And he wrote a sermon for his sister's wedding that understands marriage

in such beautiful ways.

And he's writing this stuff while he's at the end.

He's writing some stuff where he is

just beautiful, Christ-like stuff.

And in the cell with him is the guy who

was doing experiments on the Jews, you know, for medical research, and then,

you know, shared it with the world.

And Hitler was like, we're not trying to save the world.

We're trying to save Germans.

So he went into the execution camp.

And next to him was a woman who was like a prostitute.

And she had become a double spy, a double agent.

So these two are doing vile things to each other with him in the same cell.

And he's writing this beautiful spiritual stuff.

He is an amazing guy.

But

he was trying to figure out, I think, the same thing that we're going through.

And I think the same thing that in some ways both sides think they're going through.

Because both sides are saying to themselves, I can't even talk to these people.

I can't even talk to these people.

They don't even listen.

They have no clue what's wrong with these people, right?

I talked to somebody over the weekend who is really, really well informed, really well-informed, stays up with it all the time, and asked me, what do you think is really happening with the Epstein stuff?

And I thought,

wow,

here's somebody really informed that is still there.

So much stuff has happened in the last three weeks, but that's my job.

My job is to be on top of this every day.

It's not your job.

Even if you are paying attention every day, you only pay attention or you try to stay alert, but you've got other things to do with your life.

And

then there are the people who are just tuning out and they're just like,

and I was there this morning.

I read this piece, you know,

our CIA director was on Maria Bartuomo this weekend and she was, and he was saying, you know, some big stuff has come in this week and it's got them dead to rights and they're going to go to jail.

And I thought, aha, sure.

And I caught myself saying that.

And I thought, why?

If I feel that way, what does the average listener feel?

You got to feel that way, right?

I mean, don't we all like, yeah, I've seen this movie before.

And just like Charlie Brown, we line the football up every time.

No, this time she's going to kick it.

Or this time I'm going to kick it and she's going to, she's not going to pull it away at the last minute.

Yeah.

Every time.

Every time.

How do we break through to people?

Listen to what Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote.

Stupidity is more dangerous,

a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice.

Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice.

Stupidity, not evil, is the greater threat.

Not because it's more powerful, but because stupidity is unreachable.

You can expose evil, you can argue with it, you can shine a light on it.

You can resist it.

But stupidity just doesn't respond.

It doesn't engage.

It just is and it spreads.

So what did he mean by that?

He didn't mean a lack of intelligence.

In fact, some of the The stupidest people he encountered in Germany were very highly educated.

Some were university professors, right?

In our own life, they're university professors.

You're like, are you stupid?

What is wrong with you?

What he's talking about is moral failure.

It's a willful surrender of independent thought, a kind of intellectual cowardice that allows propaganda and groupthink to take over and become the root like cancer.

Okay?

You may have thought at some point, but you really have stopped.

Now, I want to make this very clear.

This is on both sides.

This is on both sides.

I have seen people on our side that you talk to and you're like, no, that's not true.

And they immediately just eyes glaze over and you're like, oh boy, they're not there anymore.

Bonhoeffer called it a psychological problem.

It emerges in groups and crowds and movements.

Listen to this.

People hand over their discernment, not because they're dumb, but because they choose not to think.

They let slogans replace ideas.

They let ideology replace truth.

How much has that happened?

Where ideology, but that's not true.

You're basing this all on lies.

It's not true.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter.

Because they've surrendered thought.

Same thing with slogans.

I mean, if I hear, you know, global warming is our World War III one more time, I think

I'm going to lose my mind.

No, that look, everything you say, all the scientists agree.

No, they don't.

No, they don't.

Have you looked into it yourself?

No.

But all the scientists agree?

No, they don't.

Their eyes glaze over.

They think you're wrong.

They won't even look into it.

No matter what you show them, they will not look at it.

And if they do, they're reading it to figure out a way to find the way they're right and you're wrong

they've surrendered entirely

to whatever it is they serve

we don't when

we ask don't you see what's happening

don't you see it

The things that you said would never ever happen, the things you told me were conspiracy theories, the things you said, that's not true at all, it's happening right in front of you right now.

Right now.

Don't you see it?

The inversion of morality.

When?

When did you decide it was okay

to have transsexual

strippers perform in front of children?

Because that's been wrong since the dawn of man.

If I went back 10 years with you,

and I proposed that, you would have said, that's outrageous.

But now it's happening and you think it's good.

Can you tell me the thoughts that brought you there?

No, you're a bigot.

You're just a bigot.

Why do you hate transgenderism?

No,

what are you talking about?

I want to understand you.

Can you take me from where you were in 2015 to where you are today?

Show me the building of this ideology that you now have.

Love is love.

That's not,

that's a slogan.

You're not arguing anymore with people who disagree.

You're not even arguing with people who are wrong.

You are now confronting someone who has abdicated the responsibility of thought

themselves.

I mean, it's

they're no longer thinking.

And again, I want to make this clear.

This is not just a disease on the left.

The right has it too.

You must not surrender thinking.

Listen to this.

Bonhoeffer described it this way.

The power of the one

needs the stupidity of the other.

And he saw it firsthand.

The German people, they were good people.

They were church-going people.

They allowed the Nazi machine to rise, not because they all hated Jews or they wanted war, but because they refused to think.

We were just talking about the starvation in Gaza.

Think that one through.

Think it through.

You're protesting for the Gazans.

You're protesting for the Palestinians.

And you're gay, and you're marching with your gay, Transvestite, lesbian group.

They'll kill all of you.

Think

it through.

But here's what happens.

The stupid, again on both sides, the stupid

emotionally and spiritually, get swept up in something bigger than themselves.

This is our our World War II.

They get swept up.

You want to be on the wrong side of history or the right side of history?

Save the earth.

It's much bigger than just you.

And like an offering, they hand their minds and their thinking over to the one.

And they become uncritical.

They become certain of things they've...

They're actually not certain of.

They're certain of things they never themselves examined.

They just stopped thinking.

It's not ignorance.

It's not even misinformation.

It's not even ideology.

It's stupidity.

And I think this is why most of us feel so exhausted because, you know, you speak the truth, you lay out the facts, you plead, you listen, you're like, no, no, no, but no, you have to read this.

And nothing moves.

It's like there's a giant barricade.

And And it is.

And nothing's going to take that barricade down.

Nothing.

Because they have an emotional alliance to an idea or a tribe that they chose.

Again, both sides.

They chose it and they absorbed it.

And now they've been conditioned to feel certainty.

And so they know everything.

And you're wrong.

No matter what you present to me, you're wrong.

So how do you fight this?

I'm going to show what Bonhoeffer said.

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Okay, so how many times have we tried to give the right argument?

Well, how many times have we tried to give proof?

And proof, a lot of times, from the New York Times.

I mean, it's one thing to say this is a proof and then it's, you know, oh, well, give him me Glenn Beck.

I know.

No, no, no.

Proof that is there, proof in their own words or whatever, and it's not enough.

Because that's not where the battle really lies.

You cannot debate a person out of the fog because they've chosen to live in the fog.

It has to be words of moral liberation,

an awakening, a shock, a call from within.

So how do you do that?

Now this is what Bonhoeffer says.

Only an act of liberation, not instruction, can overscome stupidity.

I said, oh, what the hell does that even mean?

First, it means we have to stop winning arguments.

And we have to start planting seeds.

Don't speak to the mind.

Speak past it.

Speak to the conscience.

Speak to the soul.

And sometimes that takes a crisis.

Sometimes it takes suffering.

Sometimes it just takes somebody holding up a light in a very, very dark room.

This is why

what I'm going to be doing in January means so much to me because this is the torch.

It's holding a light in a very dark room in a different kind of light.

Because it's not just about giving people the right information.

We've tried that.

It's about

reawakening the moral spine.

It's about helping people see again, not just the facts, but meaning, truth, beauty, justice,

the why beneath everything that is happening.

Because the stupid person does not ask, is that true?

He asks, is it popular?

the stupid person doesn't say is that right

they say what does it cost me to believe that or not believe that

that's how stupid people make decisions and again I'm not talking about intellectually stupid I'm talking about people who have surrendered their own mind

so we need a generation that can once again say yes to truth, even though it's really unpopular.

And I think we're seeing them.

I think this generation that is coming is this generation who will choose to see even when it's easier to look away, who will stand when the crowd runs the other way.

Bonhoeffer did that, and Bonhoeffer lost everything, and I mean everything, but he gave us a map.

So, if you ever feel the ache of, you know, talking to people, you're like, oh my gosh, don't give up, do not give up.

You're not crazy, you're not alone, and you're not wrong.

You're just speaking to people who can no longer hear an argument.

They need courage.

So let's give them that.

Now,

I want to show you here in a minute

something that was brought to my attention this morning.

It happened this weekend.

And

I couldn't believe the timing of it.

It's not coincidental.

I couldn't believe the timing of this because I'm struggling with this.

And then I found myself this morning as I was outlining this monologue.

How do I show in concrete terms what this means?

And how do I show this isn't just an empty idea, that this

actually

can work?

And a miracle happened.

Ricky, my producer, she forwarded something that she saw this weekend and she's like, have you seen this?

And I'm like,

no.

Read it.

Oh my gosh.

It is this in action with a result.

It's phenomenal.

So stand by.

We'll get to that here in just a second.

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we got a couple of other things.

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

This is the Nazi thing.

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I knew genetics were involved in this somewhere or another.

I knew there was a progressive.

And by the way, the Nazis were progressives.

You know,

I knew there was a progressive message in it, but I didn't think the progressives would actually out themselves on it.

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So I

came in this morning and I was going to talk to you about what I learned this weekend about Dietrich Bonhoeffer and how,

you know, he said basically stupidity is worse than evil because you can point evil out, but stupidity,

which means not that you're intellectually stupid, it's just that you're no longer intellectually curious.

You've just made up your mind.

You've just surrendered to your side.

And it could be either side.

And we all feel this.

On all sides, we feel like I cannot have a conversation because they will not listen to anything.

And so

how do you break through?

you know we're separating our families because we can't have conversations

so bonhoffer said you have to have you know a moral turning point it just has to be an awakening that happens

so i'm thinking to myself early this morning and this weekend how am i going to show that to you miracle of miracles ricky my producer says Did you read this on X this weekend to you?

And I said, no, I didn't see it.

Let me read it to you.

Dear Glenn Beck, you don't know me and we have never met, but you changed my life.

Let me tell you that story.

On Friday, September 27th, 2024, my whole world turned upside down.

Hurricane Helene was hit in western North Carolina like a ball of fury.

In the first few weeks, we spent scrambling taking care of my family and others around us.

As the weeks without power went by, we began branching out for help

to help others beyond our town.

I have never seen such destruction and devastation in my life.

We talk with people who watched their homes float away, kids who barely got out of the way before the landslide destroyed their home, and some stories that just broke you completely.

So many people needed help, so few were receiving any of it.

That's when I got a call from Steve Baker, a Blaze TV reporter.

At this time, I was fairly liberal.

I didn't trust the Blaze or this reporter one iota.

But then again, they were the only news outlet calling me to ask how things were going, so I picked up the phone.

The conversation that

ensued was so kind, so thoughtful, so remarkably empathetic, I was completely caught off guard.

Steve disarmed me with kindness.

He asked questions.

He let me speak.

He taught me things I didn't know, shared his story, earned my trust.

I cannot express to you how shocking this moment was to me.

My wife and I had sworn off all conservative media.

Even when we went on conservative TV shows to tell our stories, we held our nose and dove in.

Conservatives, of course, could never be as kind, open, and empathetic as liberals, right?

Yet here was this one reporter from a radical right wing in my head, news outlet, being so kind, so helpful, and so thoughtful.

It didn't make sense.

Then a week later, I get a message from this guy,

JP Decker.

He says he's with a charity I've never heard of called Mercury One Charity, and he wants to help.

We get on the phone and lo and behold, Mercury One is your charity.

So I'm suspicious.

A lot of people said they wanted to help during Helene and they never did.

So we started sending names of people we knew needed help to JP and one by one, each and every one of them got what they needed.

One woman, who was sleeping in a tent with her son until we delivered her an RV, asked for building supplies so she could rebuild her home.

Mercury One delivered those within two weeks and then asked for nothing in return.

I was floored, and I watched it happen over and over and over again.

Someone called us needing something we couldn't do and Mercury One delivered.

Then on January 9th, our phones began to blow up.

FEMA forgot to extend hotel vouchers for thousands of Hurricane Helene victims in hotels, and it was in the middle of a snowstorm.

I spent the day on the phone with terrified people not knowing where they were going to sleep tomorrow.

People with kids, disabled veterans, whole families.

I called Mercury One frantic.

They extended the stay of an entire hotel's worth of Hurricane Helene victims.

The whole hotel.

I couldn't believe it.

I just sat there stunned.

You don't know me, Glenn, but right then and there, whatever wall I had built up in my stupid liberal brain to say liberals good, conservatives bad, that wall came fully crashing down.

Months later I did something I had not done in years.

I took my family to church, a place my five-year-old son had never been.

I knew that if Christians were the ones giving up their time and their resources to come

and help us in western North Carolina, that it was something I wanted to be a part of as well.

Today, our family, who has been going to church for three months, just wants to say thank you.

Glenn, you've changed more lives than you could possibly imagine, and it's the least I can do just to say thank you.

I want you to know I'm not reading this because this is not about me.

This truly is about the people that have worked at the Blaze and work at the Blaze, the people that work at Mercury One.

They are so

good.

They are so good to the core.

And they are so full of the mission.

They know what their mission is

and they know it's true that politics doesn't mean anything.

Our human relationship does.

And I'm just so proud to be a part of them.

So proud.

And also this story is about you

because you're the one that gives to Mercury one.

You're the one that makes it possible to go and do these things.

I saw another post this weekend.

Some people, I think it was in North Carolina as well, they

needed to build a house and they had this basement

built, but in the foundation, but they couldn't afford anything.

And

the guy's standing there, and he's like, I just look behind me.

Look behind me.

All these building supplies, they just showed up.

And it was because, again, of you and Mercury one,

long after everybody else is there.

This group of people means it.

They mean it.

We're not there to get our name out.

We're not there to do anything but to show kindness.

and compassion and help one another.

And that, I think, is what Dietrich Bonhoeffer was talking about.

That was not, we didn't convince him by what we said or what we showed him.

He may even disagree with me politically on this or that or whatever, but the wall now is down between us.

So we can actually talk to one another again.

If you want to know how to bring your family back,

do not talk about politics don't do it

just be kind

be the bigger person

help

them

be there for them whatever it is they need and you know what they may never change their mind but is that the point of kindness

but for those who have and I mean this again on both sides for those who have turned turned just their thinking over to

a party,

you're what Dietrich Bonhoeffer called stupid.

That's stupidity.

And the only way to reach past that is through the heart.

And the only way to do that is to actually mean it.

Did you hear, he said, you know, I didn't believe it.

I didn't believe it.

I didn't believe it.

And then example after example after an example after after example.

Remember, when you hear one bad thing, it takes 10 good things to overcome it.

Do you know that?

You hear about a restaurant and somebody says, oh, no, and that place really is bad.

It takes 10 recommendations from your friends to overcome that one.

So if you want to win this game, we have to overwhelm

with kindness.

This is why I think

instinctually, instinctively,

instinctively, I have said forever

in very poor English.

It's not my first language.

Anyway,

that we cannot become what we despise.

When you say, we gotta get him, you'll never,

that's not gonna work.

Won't work.

You can't force.

You can't convince.

You can only love somebody into this

because that's the thing that's missing in the world.

People who actually care.

What are people starving for?

And it's going to get so much work.

So much worse.

Actual human kindness and human interaction.

You know, when you're on Grok and it says, wow, that was a great idea.

You're the smartest person ever.

You know, you write something like, hey, I was thinking about compassion.

Can you tell tell me what that means?

Wow, you are such a compassionate person.

I mean, nobody else in the world is as compassionate as you are.

That's an algorithm trying to get you to stay online.

That's what that is.

Having actual human one-on-one interaction is becoming more and more rare.

Having loving interaction.

I was at a, I was at a...

Kroger grocery store over the weekend and there were these three ladies, must have been, you know, I don't know, at least in their 50s, and they were working together at the checkout.

And they came through and they were so kind, so nice.

And they just showed the basic,

you know, what I think, because I thought about it, I thought it's their age because they grew up at a time that I grew up in where everybody was like that.

This is how you were expected to treat customers.

I don't know if it was that or I said to my wife, I said, I love Texas so much.

I just love Texas.

I love the people of Texas because they're just different.

They're just different.

And

that's what it takes.

That's what it takes.

And that's who we should be striving to be anyway, even if it's not,

you know, it can't be for political gain.

It has to be genuine.

That should be our goal.

More coming up in January

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It's got to be our mission, not our goal.

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Glad you're here.

Thank you so much for listening today.

There's a lot going on.

Stu's really upset about spatulas.

And it's an actual news story today, and I think you'll be there.

Also, we want to talk about media matters.

Oh,

I don't want to gloat.

I know.

Let me rephrase that.

I'm going to try hard not to gloat because I really want to gloat, but I'm not going to.

Or I'm going to keep it to a minimum.

I don't want to bring up expectations, do I?

No, I don't want to do that.

That would be bad.

And the president is still in Scotland, had a great weekend with tariffs.

We got past all the tariff stuff with

Europe and

doesn't look bone-crunching, so it looks like it could be good.

Now let's wait to see the results.

And what was the other thing we were going to talk about?

Oh, Stew's

in the crossword puzzle.

Oh, God.

This is crazy.

Wall Street Journal Thursday, and we need a copy of it.

If somebody has this, the Thursday Wall Street Journal.

I mean, I don't know anybody who actually reads a paper anymore.

But

what was the clue?

It was like...

It was Conservative Radio's Bergier, which is my last name.

Who knows that?

I mean, what the heck does that mean?

I think a lot of people know it.

I don't say Bergier all the time.

My name's not on any of the, you know, it's Stu Does America.

You know, you say Stu.

I never said my last name.

That's what I mean.

Yeah, that's a tough one.

It is a tough one.

And they spelled it accurately.

They spelled it correctly, which almost nobody does.

S-T-S-T-U.

Not that part.

That part's E-Star.

W.

No.

First of all, S-T-U.

But the last name they spell correctly, which I was impressed by.

I mean, many people

spell it correctly.

The crossword people should get it right.

You know what I mean?

You're in the business.

I don't know words.

Yes.

You should get that one right.

You'd just be surprised how many people screw it up.

You're surprised how many bills I get.

with the name spelled incorrectly, which I feel like I should just get out of.

Right.

That's not me.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Who's that person?

There's no why in that name.

Not me.

I'll tell you you that right now.

So that's pretty cool.

You've made it.

You've made it.

At some very low level, yeah, you've made it.

When you're a crossword puzzle clue and answer,

you've made it.

There you go.

I mean, with a group of people that still read the newspaper.

And I

shoot high, Glenn.

I know, I know.

I know.

I know.

I know.

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Well, Donald Trump is in Scotland.

He's been meeting with world leaders over in Scotland all weekend.

He's finished the European trade deal.

He's currently getting ready to wrap up the

English trade deal.

Been going really, really well.

He just came out and said, I'm really disappointed in President Putin, and I have no interest in meeting with him.

That's a

remember, he gave him 50 days to come to the table or else.

And I don't know what that or else means, but I hope Putin comes to the table.

But he's sending very strong messages.

I ain't got time for you, dude.

He says sanctions, and I think that's the or else.

Yeah, yeah.

Hopefully, hopefully that's where it will end.

All right, we're going to do that.

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So, Stu, when I say to you

communist living conditions,

what do you think of?

I think of empty store shelves.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think of

gulags.

But you also think everybody's paying their fair share.

Oh, nobody's getting rich, right?

Nobody's getting rich.

That's definitely not what I think of.

But that's the promise of it.

So when I say Uganda, what do you think of?

Uganda.

Yeah.

I mean,

not a ton.

Yeah, right, right.

Not a ton.

I think what comes to mind is that it's not a problem.

Is it about it?

Yeah.

So whether it is, you know, whether it's true or not, I think poverty.

I think Africa, poverty.

Okay.

Gun, you know, war, you know, gunlords, you know,

drug lords, warlords, that kind of stuff, right?

Well,

Mamdani.

Zaran Mandami, the candidate, who is a communist, remember what you thought of communism,

went to his home in Uganda.

Remember what you're thinking about Uganda.

And it's a compound.

Now, listen to this story.

This is from the New York Post.

Socialist New York City mayor or mayoral frontrunner Zohan Mondami celebrated his recent nuptials with a lavish three-day affair at his family's

ritzy, secluded Ugandan compound, complete with mass security guards and a cell phone jamming system.

The gates of the bustling private compound, which sits in the wealthy Bazuga Hill

outside of the capital city of Kampala, were heavily guarded by military-style mass men this week, with guests streaming in and partying until midnight, according to sources who wish to remain anonymous.

The home is set back from the road and sits on two acres of lush gardens surrounded by trees, has breathtaking panoramic views of Lake Victoria, and features the least at least three security gates.

This week it was was transformed into a party pad with Christmas lights strung through the canopy of trees.

In the garden, a music blaring sources said, On Tuesday, buses, several Mercedes and Range Rovers were seen driving into the compound.

Outside the Mondami house, there were more than 20 Special Forces Command unit guards.

Some en masse, there was a phone jamming system set up, all for the strictly private invite-only Mamdani event.

One gate had nine guards stationed on it.

Mamdani's parents, Nair, 67, and her husband, Mahmoud Mamdani, 78, an anti-Israel political theorist, lived on the estate, but also split their time between New York and New Delhi.

On Friday, inside the compound, there were military-style tents being taken down as the party had finished.

Blah, blah, blah.

The property is isolated enough that some locals weren't even aware of the three-day wedding extravaganza.

Local children had been watching Momdani on TV and everyone was talking about him, but not about the wedding.

For us, it was just about survival.

For us, this is a person, for us, it's just about survival.

We're trying to win the bread and make sure our family's okay.

We had heard that Mom Dani was going to be mayor of New York and he had made it over to America.

We want to know if we can get free visas in the U.S.

and to travel to New York like he did.

While the Mamdani family celebrated, neighbors were in mourning for a former

Supreme Court justice in Uganda who had lived a stone's throw away from the Mamdani place, and he had died July 14th.

The president also came to pay his respects for the dead.

The street was blocked by the president's cars, the local said.

Some found Mamdani's wedding bash insensitive because the culture here, it is insensitive to have a wedding celebration in the same week as a mourning.

People are still mourning.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

He has not even been buried, and we have friends coming to give last words to mourn before the burial next week, yet Mondami is celebrating his wedding for three days.

Now,

this is actually what I think of when I think of communism.

Here's a guy saying, you know what?

We got to help the poor.

We got to help the poor.

How much is enough?

And yet his family has a place in New York, New Delhi, and Uganda.

And it looks like

a warlord palace, honestly.

It's got razor wire just to keep what out?

The poor?

The poor starving that said we are just trying to put food on our table while they're partying for three days and the Mercedes going through.

That's exactly what I think of when I think of communism.

This is, I mean, this is everything you need to know.

Communists believe their life is okay.

Just like everybody who is taking a private jet over to some save the Earth conference, but their fuel is okay.

Bernie Sanders

riding a private jet, but calling for socialism, redistribution of wealth.

When asked about his extra 25 trips just in the last month or so, he said, what?

Do you expect someone like me to be in line at United?

Yeah.

Yeah, I expect to see someone especially like you in line at United.

Why is it bad for everyone else but you?

Oh, I know, because you

are important.

You have something you have to get across to the people.

So you don't have to live by the rules you want everyone else to live by.

Do as I say, not as I do.

That never works.

That never, ever works.

Because the children learn.

They're not doing it.

Why should I?

If you're not leading this life, you know, you want to be, you know, you want to be a communist, that's fine, but I would hope that you're poor.

I would hope that you're planning on being poor.

I'm hoping that even if you're paid $400,000 a year, that you're planning on giving it away and you're only going to live on $80,000 a year because you want to take the $400,000 minus the $80,000 and give it away to people who don't have enough, right?

Isn't that right?

Or are you special in some way or another?

Let me give you another story, kind of in the same vein.

This from the Washington Post.

Affluent voters have become more Democratic in recent years.

There are also some of the biggest winners in the GOP tax bill.

Affluent voters have become more Democratic in recent years.

What does that say?

The rich are going to the Democratic Party.

Why?

Because they sense redistribution of wealth is coming, and so they better be on the right side.

Kimberly Hoover has been the most Michelin star restaurants in the East and West Coast.

She and her wife, millionaires from the real estate firms, own homes in or near New York City, Washington, Miami, Quebec.

Their lives are filled with skiing, fine wine, and long trips to Europe.

Hoover's accountant estimates the new tax law that President Donald Trump signed this month will save her several million dollars over the next few years.

While many Americans might rejoice at that kind of windfall, Hoover worked hard to stop it becoming a reality, arguing to lawmakers that she's made more money than she needs.

At some point, it just starts to feel wrong.

It starts to feel excessive.

It starts to feel somehow inappropriate.

Well, then good.

Then give it away.

Why?

What kind of

idiot

takes money and say, I have all this money and so I want to give it to the people.

I think it feels wrong.

And so I'm going to give it to a charity that takes 60% of that money and wastes it.

So only 40% of that money is actually going to things I care about.

Nobody does that.

Nobody does that.

And by the way, Hoover, you can do whatever you want with your money.

You want to pay more?

Let me give you this.

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accepting venmo and paypal payments from those who want to donate money to reduce the national debt 36.7 trillion dollars for all of those billionaires that just feel like they've paid not enough money pay down the national debt

and if all of those billionaires did give

millions and millions and millions, hundreds of millions of dollars to pay down the debt, it wouldn't change anything.

The national debt wouldn't change.

You wouldn't even touch it with all of your money.

Give all of it.

It won't touch it.

It's that insignificant.

But if you really cared about the country, and you know why people won't give to the national debt?

Because

A, they won't see it make a difference.

And more importantly, why would I pay down the national debt?

They'll just keep spending more.

Why, why should I pay taxes when they are wasting that money?

Do you know how much good a charity can do?

A charity that's run right, 95 cents on every dollar goes to what it says and strangely not to some leftist organization that is teaching people how to protest in the streets?

Do you know how much good that would do?

You care about Medicare and Medicaid.

Take your hundreds of millions of dollars and find a way to get that money to people who don't have insurance.

It would be much better than waiting around for the tax rate to be raised on you to force you to pay it to the government where they will waste 60 plus percent.

They don't actually, they don't care.

They don't care.

That's not true.

By the way, NPR, I told you this last week.

So they were cut by 550 million.

Hey, Hoover, 550 million.

You got hundreds of millions of dollars.

Why don't you take care of this one?

You won't.

$550 million lapsed in federal grants.

Oh my gosh, Big Bird is going to starve to death.

He's going to be in Gaza, starving with all the little children.

It's going to be horrible, horrendous.

You want to see a skinny Big Bird?

No, but that's what's going to happen because the federal government's no longer going to pay for Big Bird.

So they have $550 million.

They have raised in the last two weeks $20 million, 20 out of 550.

Now, that's actually more than I thought that would come in.

But that's just from rich liberals who say, we've got to do something.

Well, great.

$550 million dollars that should be nothing to people who have hundreds of millions of dollars it should be nothing pay it

pay it

but you know what happens next year you're gonna have to pay another 550 million

and then the third year another 550 million you're gonna keep paying that no you can't you'll be bankrupt oh well that's why it has to be on the people no the people are already bankrupt they're already bankrupt They don't have that.

They don't have it.

But if you really, truly believed that this was the most important,

550 million, I would tell you, 800 million would have already been raised.

If you actually believed that Big Bird was going to starve and that our educational system is going to completely fall apart without PBS and NPR, that no truth is ever going to get out in any way, shape, or form unless we use old-fashioned networks to do it,

there'd be a billion dollars in the coffer already, but you got 20 million because none of you people believe it.

That's what none of you believe it.

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We're running out of time.

Is it spatulas that we're going to talk to?

We can talk spatulas if you want.

I don't know.

They're both so great.

Or media matters.

The media matters one is fun.

It came out today or yesterday.

Big story in the New York Times that media matters, if you don't know who they are,

good.

They're an organization that basically,

you know, to keep a long story short, takes conservatives out of context and tries to destroy their business.

They are the beginning of the destroyer.

The behemoth that shuts people down,

blackballs them in the industry.

I mean, they're really, it's a horrible

place.

And it was basically the source of most media coverage for many years.

I mean,

conservatives.

Yeah.

Like of conservatives.

Like, oh, conservatives said bad thing on air.

Oh, what's our source?

Media matters.

And they would just basically quote a Media Matters post as if it was news.

And whether it was in context or not, all you need to really know is Hillary Clinton and George Sorrell started it.

Yes.

Man, not enough.

At least according to them.

Yeah.

God only knows.

But so they

attempted for a long time to sink a bunch of conservatives.

And while they weren't particularly successful at it, they did, I think, form the foundation of

cancel culture.

I think they kind of like

screwed that up, even though they didn't.

I don't think they succeeded on it, but

that strategy helped sink a lot of people who didn't do anything.

They're the

forefathers of it.

Yeah, yeah.

But anyway, they're having lots of problems, unfortunately.

It's a terrible thing that, you know, and you hate when this sort of stuff happens to the worst collections of human beings ever assembled in any context.

Unfortunately, they have racked up about $15 million in legal fees over the past 20 years.

Hey, Hoover, why don't you give the $15 million?

That's nothing.

It's nothing.

You got so much money.

Money when you cry comes out of your tear ducts.

Why don't you just cry $15 million over there?

Now,

this is a big problem.

Now, one of the things you could say

is causing this is Elon Musk.

Elon Musk has decided a long time ago, because he was slandered by this organization, as so many others have been, that he decided he was, when you do it to the richest man in the world, that was the best idea.

And he's

been going after them legally and put them in court all over the place.

Occasionally, when things have not turned out the way he wanted, he was able to appeal and

file other cases under other contexts.

These are the type of things that happen when the person you're fighting against and lying about.

happens to be the richest man in the world and doesn't care about this.

Darn it.

You know, it's terrible.

They hate to see this happen.

They've had to fire a bunch of people.

They've had to, you know, they're begging now people to come in and donate more money to help their wonderful organization.

Now, it's shocking that the left is not doing this.

Of course, they do see...

Because they've outlasted their usefulness.

They're no longer good.

They're no longer effective.

So nobody's paying attention to them.

That's what happens.

You're just thrown to the side the minute you lose your usefulness.

Yeah, I mean, and I think this is, you know, this seems like the type of thing you you want to gloat about because it's, you know, it's funny that people who are trying to ruin other people's livelihoods are having theirs ruined.

That's, I mean, I can see there's a German word for that that I won't try to pronounce.

But like, you know, it's that type of thing.

And I get it.

Although I think conservatives should be concerned in that, like, there are a lot of really rich liberals who donate money and have donated money to this organization for a very long time.

And that's been

almost universally good for conservatism because you have money going to an organization that can't possibly and never has achieved anything of value.

So now if this organization goes away, that money might go to an organization that could accomplish something.

And that would be very bad for conservatives.

So it's not something to celebrate.

Ah, maybe a little bit.

I think I'm going to.

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So, do you remember back in the day, Levi's was, you you know,

we want to be the

brand of the revolution?

And I'm like, what, what, what happened to the good old American Levi's?

And I don't remember what the falling out was.

Remember their brand president, Jennifer Say?

What was the fallout?

Do you remember?

Why she left?

Yeah, yeah.

I believe she was trying to say this crazy thing about kids continuing to go to school during COVID.

That's right.

That's right.

It seems so much longer.

So she went out and she left Levi's and she started her own XXXY athletics.

She don't know what the message is there.

And she joins us now because we were talking about the

American Eagle brand and the commercial they released last week with Sidney Sweeney and how their stock jumped, I think, 15%

on that ad.

15%.

Jennifer, how are you?

Good.

Thanks for having me, Glenn.

It is always great to have you.

I just, your story is because I grew up with Levis

and I just couldn't understand what they were doing.

And then for you to be fired because you were like, ah, no, I think kids should go to school.

It's just, it's remarkable.

It's just remarkable.

Of course, now

I resign, but of course now more than half of all teachers, educators believe schools were closed too long.

And I don't really think we've still had a reckoning over all of this COVID crazy.

But

yeah, people like me who expressed completely normal, reasonable views that all kids should get to go to school, when, by the way, the well-to-do kids going to private schools were going.

People who expressed totally normal views,

you know, were pushed out of polite society, essentially.

And now that the

now that the consensus has changed, there's sort of no change for us.

You know, we're still considered heretics that no one should talk to, but that's okay because we make our own way, which is why I started this brand.

So tell me the brand.

How's it going?

When did you just start it?

So we launched, we're only a year and a little bit old, so we're just a baby brand, just getting started.

We launched at the very end of March last year.

It's called XXXY Athletics.

We are, I believe, the only brand really standing up and empowering female athletes.

You know, when I looked around at all the brands in the marketplace, the big ones, you know, from Nike to Lululemon and everything in between, they all sort of pretend to stand up for women.

But none of them really do.

I mean, outside of the issue of even protecting women's sports, which I believe is an existential for the continuance, an existential

in order for women's sports to exist.

Arguably, they don't exist at all if men are competing in them.

Brands like Nike in particular have a history of treating women and female athletes with just astonishing disregard.

And I felt like there's a real opportunity in the market for a brand made by women, for women, that truly empowers female athletes and gives them a real platform and stands up for them no matter what.

So I decided, if not me, then who?

I might as well do it.

So how many of these brands do you think actually mean it?

I mean, I think Levi's actually meant what they said.

You know, they want to be the uniform of the revolution and everything else.

And then others, I think, are just going along because they want to be popular and they want to sell clothing and this is the way to do it.

What do you think the...

the ratio is to believers who will who really mean it and those who are just doing ad campaigns I think it's a mix, Glenn.

I think at the tippy-top in the C-suite and with CEOs, it's all a marketing strategy.

It's, you know, this is woke capitalism.

It's riddled with hypocrisy.

You know, if we look at American Eagle, for instance, and the Sydney Sweeney campaign, for the last, I don't know how many years, American Eagle has been focused on body positivity.

I'll use that as the

fat people in commercials.

Basically.

And, you know, they've seen loss of market share.

They've seen loss of revenue.

And then, as you indicated, they launched a campaign last week featuring Sidney Sweeney and, you know, bringing along her 25 million Instagram followers.

She's basically known for being pretty hot and having and being well endowed.

And she looks great in a pair of jeans.

I find the argument really funny online that people are saying she's not even attractive.

I'm like, well, I think the consensus is out.

I don't really understand that argument.

But, you know, as you mentioned,

their stock jumped just 15% in one day.

Sales are going crazy.

And it's a pretty simple campaign.

There's nothing revolutionary here.

I will say it was well executed, but it's a really beautiful girl looking great in jeans.

I think what's a little unique about it is there is a bit of a wink and a nod.

She's kind of a little bit self-deprecating and you know makes fun of herself a little bit, which I appreciate.

But there's nothing revolutionary here.

But guess what?

It works.

I mean, sex sales, especially genes,

that's not a new idea.

And I think the fact that they're going back to that, this sort of timeless formula, shows they never really believed in the other bit.

They're willing to do what works, as they should.

That's their fiduciary responsibility.

So I think it's divided, because I do think there are young people in these companies that put a lot of pressure on the C-suite.

And believe me or not,

the C-suiteers fall prey to it.

And so they're afraid of being canceled by all the youngsters who, you know, come to work.

Their day job is marketing jeans or whatever, but they think of themselves as social justice warriors.

But I feel like the normies have taken the wheel.

The adults are back in the room, and they're like, we got to do what works.

This is our responsibility.

You know, Nike, another good example.

Look at the campaign they just ran with Scotty Scheffler.

Unbelievable.

That's like a return to normie capitalism, if I've ever seen it.

It's about, you know, faith and family.

And

pretty remarkable about faith, I would say.

And we all know they're really dealing with some financial challenges.

And I think they're going back to a timeless formula that appeals to all Americans.

And do you think this works for like, because like, I don't know, American Eagle, I don't know what they did.

And so I see this.

And do you think they go back or have they made such an impression?

Like Nike,

it was the leader of some of this stuff.

Do they have the ability to just go back and be forgotten?

I mean, I guess Paris.

You mean for everyone to forget what they did before?

Yeah.

I believe so.

I think we have incredibly short memories.

I mean, look at, we were just talking about COVID.

Look at the memory holing that's happening there.

It's crazy.

I mean, even when you, not to kind of switch subjects, but the narrative now is we never said the vaccine stopped transmission.

And literally, these people are all on TV, video captured

saying exactly that.

But I think we all have pretty short memories, and I think they can pivot and move forward.

And if this works, they'll double down and keep going.

And I think we're entering a phase of, I call it, normie capitalism.

How long do you think this lasts?

Is this fleeting or is this a swing back that now starts to swing and has momentum behind it?

Oh,

I think it's going to last some time because it's broadly appealing.

I mean, that's the job for a very large brand anyway.

There will still be niche brands that do this kind of woke stuff because that's their consumer base and they can do that.

They're appealing to a niche market.

But for big, broad-based brands, the idea is to appeal to as many people as possible with a unifying message.

And I think the Scottie Scheffler message from Nike is pretty unifying.

I mean, it's a man with a baby.

That's like a surefire win.

Everybody loves a man with a baby.

And the Sidney Sweeney stuff is just a great-looking girl looking great in a pair of jeans.

And it makes us smile.

Like, who's not going to like that?

Of course it's going to work.

And then other companies will follow suit.

I mean, at the very least, we've seen since the Bud Light debacle, companies have walked away from that.

Right.

That's a big, broad-reaching brand.

Used to be number one share.

It's plummeted to number three.

Their market share has been cut in half.

They're losing 20% in revenue a year since that hooray.

Wow.

And,

you know, so I think brands have been quietly kind of backing away from that sort of message.

But are they changing internally?

How can I know that?

I mean, it's hard to know.

I think there's probably a lot of tension internally as, like I said, the adults kind of take over and the normies take the wheel.

I think there's a lot of probably angry young people and they're being shushed and not listened to necessarily in the way they were before.

I think, you know, a lot of DEIs that the HR departments are walking away from, I still think they're furthering it quietly.

I don't think they can just change on a dime like that, you know?

So I think it's still out there.

I mean, I was invited earlier this year to this HR conference with 800 of the top HR professionals in the country.

And I was shocked, Glenn, that they invited me.

I was like, do you know

what

they say?

And the guys were like, oh, we want you there.

I'd spoken to him years ago when I was the chief marketing officer of Levi's.

He's like, we want to have hard conversations.

And they posted that I was going to be there on their website.

And a day later, he called me and uninvited me because they got complaints.

People didn't want to be, HR professionals could not stand to be in a room with me saying things that they didn't like.

And these are.

These are from the top 800 companies in the country.

So I think that tells you something about whether or not they've truly changed.

Jennifer, always great to talk to you.

I wish you the best of luck.

If you are looking for a great brand of clothes that is standing up for girls and women in sports, XXXY Athletics, you can check them out online.

XXXY Athletics.

Jennifer, thank you so much.

Appreciate it.

Thank you so much for having me, John.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

You know, I remember

back in the 90s, maybe, when Sidney Crawford was big,

she did a commercial, and see if this rings a bell for anybody who's my age.

She did a commercial where she was wearing a white tank top and jeans, and she pulls up, I think, to a gas station, and it's the desert, and she pulls up, and she goes and does something.

You remember this commercial?

Oh, yeah.

It's one of the most famous commercials of the era.

Do you remember the product?

Because I do.

Immediately.

Do you remember, Sarah?

Do you remember the product?

Coca-Cola?

Pepsi.

Pepsi.

And

it was such a big deal.

And now, look at Sidney Sweeney.

Same formula, guys.

Same formula.

You know what?

Because it works.

It works.

Edward Bernays did the first real sex commercial.

The reason why women started smoking is because of him.

They had a parade in New York.

He told all these women suffragettes that when you get to the reviewing stand, I want you to hike up your dress, which you didn't do, and I want you to have cigarettes and matches in your garter.

You take a cigarette out and your matches and you light it in front of the judges' stand, and then you take a puff and then you hold it up like the Statue of Liberty.

And that's your flame.

He was paid by Big Tobacco.

to try to figure out how they could get women to smoke.

And that was the beginning, really, of mainstreaming women smoking.

It's a very simple strategy because guys are not that stupid.

And that became, I mean, they are that stupid.

They're not deeper than this.

And that became the beginning of mainstreaming all of that.

And it's exactly the same, but it also had not just sex.

It had kind of a bit of the forbidden, but not just sex, beautiful women.

It also had America.

That's always been the strategy that works here in America.

All right, back in a minute.

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So, the director of the CIA

was on Fox News Sunday and said, you know, what hasn't come out yet, and what's going to come out is the underlying intelligence that I've spent the last few months making recommendations about the final declassification and sent to the Department of Justice.

It's going to come out in the Durham Report Classified Annex.

It's what intelligence actually showed.

It was part of the Hillary Clinton plan.

Part of it was the FBI plan to be an accelerant to that fake steel dossier, to the fake Russia collusion claims by pouring oil on fire and by amplifying the lie by bearing the truth of what Hillary Clinton was actually up to.

So he says this week some more stuff's going to come out about it.

And as I'm reading that, did you know that John Brennan actually voted for a communist in, you know, in his youth?

No.

Yeah, he said he was just tired of

the corruption and he wanted transparency.

And so he voted for the communist.

And this is back in the 80s.

And I'm like,

I want transparency.

In the United States.

In the United States, I wanted transparency, but I didn't vote for the people who were trying to overthrow the United States government.

It was kind of, you think of the 80s as in some ways a peak of the awareness of what communism is.

He was actually praising the guy.

Like, you ever see the show The Americans?

I mean, I bits and pieces.

So good.

I know, you love it.

So good.

You want to understand the 80s, understand, watch the Americans.

But that's that he was, he was supporting those guys, supporting the guys who were paying people to pay those kinds of people.

It's crazy.

And he's like, I was in the lie detector test, and so I just decided I'm going to go for it.

I'm just going to tell them the truth.

And he said, yes, I did.

And they were like, okay, you can be the CIA director.

What the hell is wrong with us?

How could we have a guy who was sympathetic to the overthrowing of the United States government?

I don't care how old you were.

I don't care.

Wait,

you're now the head guy?

Huh.

Worked out well, too.

Well, strange that it worked out with such a non-Marxist president like Barack Obama, who definitely was not working with any other Marxist trying to overthrow the United States government.

What a shock!

What a coincidence.

This is Glenn Beck.