How Was an Anti-Trump Reporter Added to a White House Signal Chain? | 3/25/25

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A reporter from The Atlantic was accidentally included in a signal group chat where top cabinet-level Trump administration officials discussed upcoming attacks against the Houthis in Yemen. How could such a security breach occur? The genomics company 23andMe filed for bankruptcy, putting millions of people's DNA up for sale to the highest buyer. What will happen to your health data if Big Pharma buys it? Glenn and Stu further discussed the reporter being added to the Signal group chat and the Trump administration's response. Why are government employees using the non-governmental approved Signal app to begin with? The Left is attempting to compare this incident to Hilary Clinton's private server scandal. The car company Hyundai is investing billions of dollars to begin making cars in America. Glenn explains the original intent behind the three forms of government and the checks and balances within our government. CBS's '60 Minutes' recently interviewed a cartel member who admitted that the cartel is smuggling drugs and people through Canada, something Canada previously denied was happening. Glenn and Stu discuss males competing in girls' sports and explain how the issue lies in men competing in easier arenas.
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Speaker 1 excuse me, how are we sharing secrets about war plans? Excuse me, what?

Speaker 4 Is Hillary Clinton around the administration?

Speaker 1 Is she giving advice on how to keep things super, super secret? This is a bad mistake. And we're going to give you our read on that here in just a second.

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Speaker 1 All right, welcome to the program. Hello, Stu.
How are you?

Speaker 4 Wonderful, Gladiator.

Speaker 1 Oh, thank you. So good.
You know,

Speaker 1 I was on Signal

Speaker 1 last night.

Speaker 1 Well, I was sharing some how to make a nuclear weapon stuff. I accidentally put Iran on

Speaker 1 don't you hate that? Yes. So they were part of that.
We've all done it.

Speaker 4 So we've all done it.

Speaker 1 Okay, so here's the bad thing. In case you don't know,

Speaker 1 they accidentally texted. the war plans with the Houthis

Speaker 1 to the Atlantic. Now,

Speaker 1 how can that happen? I mean, this is not the Hillary Clinton people. I mean, I think that's expected.
Well, I got a few questions. First of all,

Speaker 1 is Signal really the thing that we should be on with war plans? I don't think so. In fact, isn't it illegal? You're supposed everything has to be monitored for the National Archives.

Speaker 1 The National Archives, you're not supposed to have personal private things. It all has to go on government servers for a couple of reasons.
I don't know. Number one, so this doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 Number two, in case something does go wrong, somebody is doing something wrong, we have forever proof of it.

Speaker 1 It is time. Now here's something that the left will never do to their own.

Speaker 1 This is a bad mistake by the administration. Okay? Now

Speaker 1 I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt that it was a fat finger problem. I don't think anybody did this intentionally, but still,

Speaker 1 there's got to be a consequence for this, and it has to make sure that this doesn't happen again. And I'd like to know why we're on Signal.
Why are we doing top secret things on Signal?

Speaker 1 You don't think the, I think, I think Yemen could get together enough cash to break into Signal. Is it just me?

Speaker 1 Okay, so what happened was they were having a meeting with, you know, cabinet level, and they were talking about the Houthi attack. And here's what's coming, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 Well, it was sent to the guy who runs the Atlantic, and he was included in this text chat. And he's reading it.
He's like, I'm being trolled. I'm being trolled.
This is not.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 But he doesn't say, hey, guys, am I supposed to be on this? He just lets it go. And to be, I'm going to be real frank with you.

Speaker 1 If this was happening and that was sent to me and it was during the Biden administration, there's no way I would have said, hey, guys, am I supposed to be on this? No one.

Speaker 4 There's no way. I would sit there and watch it and see what happens.

Speaker 1 Exactly. I would be like, this can't be real.
We've had conversations like this before. This can't be real.

Speaker 1 But just sit back and watch, because if it is, it's a big deal. Okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I don't fault him for not, because I would have done it myself,

Speaker 1 because this is such a huge mistake. And I want to give this guy credit

Speaker 1 for not coming out and saying, we're going to attack the Houthis. Now, I'm not going to call him a patriot like a lot of people are, because,

Speaker 1 quite honestly, put yourself in this situation.

Speaker 1 You are on the opposite side of this administration, and all of a sudden you're added to a top secret list of what we're going to do.

Speaker 1 You would immediately go, This is a setup.

Speaker 4 This is set up. 100%.
I would think I would think at first it was fake, then I would think it was a setup.

Speaker 4 I would also, I would be, it would at least cross my mind, I would be nervous to think, Am I legally allowed to be in, to see any of this?

Speaker 1 But he would go to his, I mean, he's the guy who runs the Atlantic, he's the Atlantic.

Speaker 1 He went to attorneys. Do we need to do anything about this?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I would have acted exactly the same way. And he,

Speaker 1 to his credit, he did not release anything prior to the attack, which is number one.

Speaker 1 The second thing is he still, to my knowledge, has not released what he saw. Now that makes me a little nervous because I want to know that somebody in the Justice Department has seen it.

Speaker 1 So we know this is not, that it is what he says it is. But I assume you'd be able to see up in the, you know, who's on our secret, top secret spy meeting.

Speaker 1 I'm sure you can see his name or at least a code name for him or his, you know, his, his handle,

Speaker 1 whatever it is. Now,

Speaker 1 this was supposedly done

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 leaked by a guy who,

Speaker 1 wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 He is.

Speaker 1 He's a I think he was a Navy SEAL or was he a Ranger? He was a he was special forces.

Speaker 1 He is a good guy. He was a congressman.

Speaker 1 He's not in bed with the left. He doesn't hate Donald Trump.
So there's no way this was intentional

Speaker 1 that I know of, that he did it intentionally.

Speaker 1 Maybe somebody else did, but I don't think so. Here's what I think actually happened because I can't tell you how many times it's happened to me.

Speaker 1 I never thought these stories were true until it happened to me. Here's one.

Speaker 1 I'm typing to Pat, boy, Stu's such a fat head. What a ridiculous fat head he is.
Fat, fat, fat. Send.
And then I realize,

Speaker 1 how did Stu's name get into the CC box? What did I just do?

Speaker 4 By the way, that's a real story we should point out. You didn't just make that up.
And he is a fat head. Fat, fat, fat.
I confirmed it.

Speaker 1 No, but I mean, that's happened to everybody, right?

Speaker 4 I mean, everybody's had that mistake. Everybody's done.

Speaker 1 And that is something that you do. You, you, you know, your finger drop-down box comes down and you're like, yep, there's Stu.
And I hit Sarah instead.

Speaker 4 You know?

Speaker 1 And so,

Speaker 4 you know, that's how I found out. I was a fathead.
It was that moment. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But everyone, thanks a lot, Sarah.

Speaker 4 But everyone's got through that. Everybody.
I mean, like, at least, at the very least, you've come close.

Speaker 4 Like, you've about to click send, and then you realize, holy crap, that name's in the, you know, two or CC world of the email. So, I mean, it is actually a pretty relatable thing.

Speaker 4 It just still should not be happening.

Speaker 1 But apparently nobody checked the little boxes on

Speaker 1 who's this guy? Who is this guy?

Speaker 1 Who sent

Speaker 1 Jameson,

Speaker 1 not Jamison Greer,

Speaker 4 Jeffrey Goldberg.

Speaker 1 Who sent him? Now,

Speaker 1 if his name in the little drop box, or it's not actually a drop box, I think you have to go to your contacts. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who would be next to if if

Speaker 1 if goldberg's name is there and he started typing in j or g for goldberg who would come up well the only one that we can find that is at a cabinet level uh is uh jamison greer now jamison greer is a cabinet level official uh his role is to look at the high-level discussions that are going on about um

Speaker 1 uh tariffs okay I mean. So, and national security context tariffs.

Speaker 4 So maybe

Speaker 4 possibly

Speaker 4 it would be a little strange. Right.
But you're right. With national security involved, it's possible.

Speaker 1 So here's the in order.

Speaker 1 Can we stop using public apps? That's number one. I don't know if anyone knows this, but there's a group of people called hackers

Speaker 1 that would love to hack in and find all of our secrets. That's why we spent a lot of money on infrastructure.

Speaker 1 And if the administration isn't using the top secret infrastructure, the administration needs to.

Speaker 1 Second of all, We need to have records of everything that has happened, even if it is top secret until, you know, 70 years after they tried to kill Donald Trump and Butler, somebody in 100 years from now will say, well, I know everybody's dead, but we really can't release this right now.

Speaker 1 But I want somebody to have a record of it, okay?

Speaker 4 And that's the law.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is the law. You're not supposed to be doing this.
Now, I don't know specifically about what they're doing, but it's my understanding.

Speaker 4 In most situations.

Speaker 1 In most situations, you are not allowed to have conversations about your job at the government off of government apps for security reasons and for national archive reasons. It's the law.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 let's focus on that first. And again, the left would never do this to their own.
I mean, you know, Hillary Clinton is out bleaching, you know, hard drives.

Speaker 1 You know, she's been hiding all of our secret information, top secret, with

Speaker 1 the lemonade stand on the eight-year-old on our street i mean

Speaker 1 so they never went after that let's be consistent here this is a problem and it's got to stop second of all something has to if this is the way it happened somebody has to uh you know have a word with mr waltz how how how how did this happen It's my fat finger.

Speaker 1 Look, this is what happened. I'm sure this is what happened.
I was looking through my contracts. I meant to push his name and I pushed his name by accident.
I didn't check. I should have checked.
Bad.

Speaker 4 Stop it.

Speaker 4 It's a secondary problem, though, right? Because he got a lot of the names right, like Marco Rubio and JD Vance.

Speaker 4 So the fact that all of them were on this is already a major problem

Speaker 4 outside of the reporter. And Waltz, I mean, why would Goldberg's name be in there?

Speaker 4 I mean, it's got to be that at least at some point he's he was talking off record or on background about something to him, right? Like, I don't, I don't know what else the explanation would be. Again,

Speaker 4 there is a bit of speculation in this because we, all we know is that the White House has confirmed this was a, it appears to be a legitimate chat. So they're, they're not denying it.
And I will.

Speaker 4 Hexeth did say something that sounded like a kind of a denial. Initially, no one's texting war plans, but I think that was

Speaker 1 not a text.

Speaker 4 It's not a text.

Speaker 4 That's exactly what I went to. It was like, oh, it's not technically a text.
Maybe he was trying to walk some line there, but the White House confirmed it later on.

Speaker 4 So it does seem that it is legitimate. Right.

Speaker 1 And hats off. I mean, I think there are a lot of good actors here.
This is my take on it. Now, this could change the more information we get.

Speaker 1 My take on this was: Walt's fat finger. Okay.

Speaker 1 Second,

Speaker 1 we should not be using any kind of public app for anything in the government. I don't care if it's the national dog catchers federal union meeting.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 No one in government should ever be using public apps.

Speaker 4 Especially for something like this. Oh, my God.
I mean, it's so dumb. It doesn't even, it shouldn't even be.
It doesn't even said.

Speaker 4 But, like, you know, it's one thing if they were trading, I don't know, they were like, can you believe what Hillary Clinton said yesterday? And they're going back.

Speaker 4 Even that's not supposed to happen on those apps. But like, okay, this is, this is, these are actual, the bombs are dropping in two hours.

Speaker 4 If that's actually what happened here, and you're correct to point out, by the way, we do not have full confirmation of that quite yet.

Speaker 4 Like we do have the, the actual language of what he released in a previous conversation about it, but we don't have the confirmation of

Speaker 4 that exact, hey, here comes the bombs type of conversation. He just alluded to it, and he's being praised for not including that because it would

Speaker 4 reveal potential operations.

Speaker 1 They would not have praised me and called me a patriot, nor should they.

Speaker 1 It would have been caution.

Speaker 1 It feels like a setup.

Speaker 1 This can't be real. And if it is, what am I being set up for? Okay.
So please, let's not call him a patriot. Let's call him a smart businessman.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 1 Because he knew he had a story. If it's true, after

Speaker 1 he has a story, he has this story. Okay, so let's cut down on the Patriot talk.

Speaker 1 I'm glad he didn't reveal any secrets, and I thank him for that. Tip of the hat.
Thank you for not doing that.

Speaker 1 That's rare in your business where somebody has national secrets, and they're like, hey, you know what we're going to do?

Speaker 4 We're going to bomb Iran.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 But nobody seems to care about that stuff.

Speaker 4 And I mean, no, I know you're trying to get onto something else, but one more addition on this point. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He needed to wait for the bombs to drop before he could confirm it was real. Correct.
So it's not like he even intentionally said, I'm going to do this for national security.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 He didn't know it was real until the bombs dropped.

Speaker 1 And he didn't, he didn't think it was real.

Speaker 4 Right, for a long portion. Now, I think the conversations leading up to that, I think at that point, he was like, oh my gosh, I think this is real.
But he didn't have confirmation.

Speaker 4 He couldn't write a story. He couldn't go online and say, by the way, I'm in a text that, you know, chat and they're about to bomb in two hours.
But I will tell you.

Speaker 4 So I give him a little bit of credit, but yes, some credit perspective.

Speaker 1 Some credit. I mean, there are those who have done that.
Sure.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 You know, but

Speaker 1 can we just talk about General Milley calling

Speaker 1 his counterpart in China going, by the way, President Trump's saying this, but he's not going to do it because we're not allowing him to do it. Don't worry.
That's treason.

Speaker 1 And nobody on the left had a problem with that at all. But everybody's upset about this, as I am.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 let's keep it in perspective. I want the National Archives to always have access to everything.
Stop using private things to talk about anything other than, how's your day been, honey?

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Speaker 4 texts, I guess, or signal messages that came from

Speaker 4 many members of the White House and security team

Speaker 4 about this Houthi attack,

Speaker 1 Houthi

Speaker 4 rebels that were

Speaker 4 hit with all sorts of bombs and such the other day. Now, Jeffrey Goldberg is the guy who runs the Atlantic.
He says, I was actually inadvertently added to this chain, and I saw all this happening.

Speaker 4 He says he was sitting in his car after he saw a message that, hey, these bombs are going to drop in a couple of hours. He sat in his car waiting to confirm this.
They did drop in a couple of hours.

Speaker 4 So that's where we are now. Now, the White House has, you know, they've got an argument here.
This is the argument from Carolyn Levitt.

Speaker 4 She says Jeffrey Goldberg is well known for his sensationalist spin.

Speaker 4 Here are the facts about this latest story. One, no war plans were discussed, and war plans is in quotes on that.
This is also echoing what Pete Hegseth said when he says no one was texting war plans.

Speaker 4 They've been using that phrase a lot.

Speaker 1 But what do war plans mean? Right.

Speaker 4 I think if there's a technicality of sorts, I think, I don't know, if you said to me, hey, we're bombing in two hours,

Speaker 4 I would kind of, I think it's okay to call that war plan. Do you? I wouldn't.
No. No, I wouldn't.
I mean, it's not a detailed map of everything you're going to do, but I mean, certainly it's

Speaker 1 humane.

Speaker 1 Yes, it's inappropriate. Okay.

Speaker 1 It shouldn't be.

Speaker 4 The timing, though, is of...

Speaker 4 possibly the most important detail in a way.

Speaker 4 If you were to say, what is the one thing the Houthis would want to know? More than anything else.

Speaker 1 Are they going to bomb us and when?

Speaker 4 When are they coming? Yeah. Right? Like,

Speaker 4 even if you don't know the location of the bombing, right? You'd rather have the timing than even the location because you could try to hide everything for that period. Right.

Speaker 4 Like, so it's not, they're not war plans. You couldn't say that's an entire plan of war, but it is an important detail of any particular situation.
Also, not technically a war.

Speaker 4 I guess we haven't declared war, so there may be some out for them there. So that's one.
Two, no no classified material was sent to the thread. This one's important, I think,

Speaker 4 because

Speaker 4 I guess it probably isn't technically classified

Speaker 4 in some way at the timing. I mean,

Speaker 4 I guess you have to go through some sort of process to classify something, considering they're just saying they're making a decision for a couple hours ahead. It's probably just don't tell people.

Speaker 4 But I mean, it's

Speaker 4 telling us that. Mr.

Speaker 1 President, this file is marked, just don't tell people.

Speaker 4 Don't tell people. We need a stamp that says that.

Speaker 4 I like that.

Speaker 4 But secondly,

Speaker 4 it would indicate that he would not be restricted to post it,

Speaker 4 right? If it's no classified material, he could post whatever those messages were at the end, which he is held back so far, probably because he's worried they're classified.

Speaker 4 But if they're not classified, I guess maybe he could post them all. Maybe we'll see them.

Speaker 4 And the third argument is the White House Counsel's Office has provided guidance on a number of different platforms for President Trump's top officials to communicate as safely and efficiently as possible.

Speaker 4 That is,

Speaker 4 if that, I assume that's true.

Speaker 4 I have no reason to doubt that.

Speaker 1 Because you just gave this last piece to me a minute ago, and I looked it up, and I have the guidelines. Okay.
I have the guidelines, so I can go through that. Sure.
Okay, so a couple of things.

Speaker 1 War plans. To me, war plans are not, hey, I got an idea.

Speaker 1 We're going over there in two hours.

Speaker 4 That's not war plans.

Speaker 1 That's a tip of some sort.

Speaker 1 Let me show you this. These are war plans.

Speaker 1 This is was only for the highest level German officers, and only a few of these were made.

Speaker 1 But it's a box full of maps. and battle plans.
These are the battle plans

Speaker 1 for the invasion of Poland. Now, at the time, Hitler was saying, we don't have, we're not going to do anything with Poland.

Speaker 1 We have no designs on Poland at all. It would be all self-defense.
But in this war plan, if you could see,

Speaker 1 these are pictures of bridges that they were going to blow up.

Speaker 1 These were pictures of buildings that they needed to blow up. This was their legitimate war plan.
I didn't even know this existed until we got it at auction in Germany.

Speaker 4 That's a war plan.

Speaker 1 We're going in around two hours. That's a tip-off.

Speaker 4 Can we point out that there's no other human being on Earth who could be like, oh, they said war plans? Hey, go get me my Hitler invasion of Poland war plans from the museum.

Speaker 4 There's not another human being on Earth who could do what you just did.

Speaker 1 I really relate to Donald Trump. Did you see that he had the,

Speaker 1 what is it, the FIFA award, the soccer award the fifa yeah yeah fifa he has that sitting next to the resolute desk now he's got like the he's got the declaration of independence on wall now he's got the world soccer cup sitting next to his the guy is just like i mean it's exactly what i would do is like hey

Speaker 1 do we have somewhere that

Speaker 1 Yeah, bring it in here. I think that's cool.

Speaker 4 Soon there's going to be

Speaker 4 an alien in fluid

Speaker 4 just

Speaker 4 bobbing around in some tank inside.

Speaker 1 We need somebody to do that with AI. I want to see the president sitting by his desk with a small alien in a jar behind him.

Speaker 4 So anyway,

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 here's what it said.

Speaker 1 General prohibition. Government officials are generally prohibited from using public tools like Signal, WhatsApp, or other

Speaker 1 third-party messaging apps for official business unless specific conditions are met. That's the key.
What are those exceptions?

Speaker 1 In some cases, agencies may permit the use of non-official tools under limited circumstances, such as emergencies or when communicating with external partners that cannot use government systems. Okay.

Speaker 1 This, you know, who changed this? You know who got it so we could open up all these communications?

Speaker 4 Was it in Obama?

Speaker 1 Specifically.

Speaker 4 Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Which agency?

Speaker 1 USAID. Hmm.

Speaker 1 They said we need to be able to use this.

Speaker 4 Because they're talking to foreign sources.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 Signal specific concerns. Signal is an encrypted messaging app with features like disappearing messages, which can make it impossible to preserve records if used improperly.

Speaker 1 This feature conflicts with the federal record-keeping requirements, as it could allow officials to conduct business without leaving a trace.

Speaker 1 While signals encryption is robust, it is not government-approved system for classified communications and its use could violate security protocols if sensitive information is shared. However,

Speaker 1 even in cases with employees and special conditions, employees must forward official communications of an official government account within 20 days to combine with the Federal Records Act unless the communication is purely logistical and of minimal value.

Speaker 4 Which is kind of the excuse that Hillary used, Trayton. Right.
Yeah, this is just I was talking about my daughter and her yoga practice or whatever.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 1 So the White House has,

Speaker 1 not under Trump, the White House has made it legal for some conditions that signal could be used, but it has to be recorded and reported to the National Archives within 20 days. okay

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 we we now know that's not a violation of our policies okay i don't like that policy i'd like that policy changed uh or deeply explained more than this like i don't know could we get grop grok to write us a top secret app i mean don't we have a bot that does that now don't we have elon musk that could just whip one of those up real quick because i mean i i could see the justification for it, right?

Speaker 4 I mean, you could see, okay, like, obviously, a foreign official, for example, would not have access to our internal systems.

Speaker 4 And therefore, if you're talking to them and you need to use messaging, which again is questionable, okay, maybe Signal is the place to do it. Why

Speaker 4 JD Vance, Marco Rubio, and Mike Waltz would need to have a conversation off of those systems, I don't understand. I mean, I just,

Speaker 4 you know, and look, we all know that what the government is, probably whatever system they have sucks. And it may just very well be as simple as Signal works because it's a capitalist product.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's more secure than, you know, the federal government.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't be surprised either if that's true.

Speaker 1 That needs to, that's something that I would say. Hey, Elon.

Speaker 1 In between bites, when you're at lunch today, could you just write this up for us? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 That's something that we need to fix. So

Speaker 1 I want to make sure everybody knows what I said earlier is you're not supposed to use these. Yes, there is a special exemption for Signal under certain circumstances.

Speaker 1 Don't know how this one made those certain circumstances because I don't think we know all of those circumstances. Right.

Speaker 1 But they weren't doing anything they weren't supposed to do, at least on the surface.

Speaker 4 And assuming that they would turn these into the archives, which would need to occur, right?

Speaker 1 Well, yes.

Speaker 4 Now, I'm sure, obviously, now they will, but of course, we don't know how many conversations have gone.

Speaker 1 Somebody, I mean,

Speaker 1 they verified that it did happen.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 you know, they had to know and somebody kept them. And we know that the Atlantic kept them.

Speaker 4 Maybe, I mean, they may have just asked, hey, is this real? I mean, Mike Waltz does seem to be, I mean,

Speaker 4 Trump today is saying, like, look, he's a good guy. He's learned a lesson.

Speaker 1 I think he is.

Speaker 4 And he's learned a lesson. Right.
Right. Like, essentially admitting, right, like this did occur kind of the way that it was described.
But,

Speaker 4 you know, again, is it the end of the world? They're saying no. And I think that's fair.

Speaker 1 I think it's fair. You know, because we know exactly what they did.
He's admitted to it. They recognize a mistake.
Like Hillary Clinton,

Speaker 1 she would not turn over the records. She denied it even happened.
And then we find out that she gave all of her servers at home an acid bath

Speaker 1 and probably some of the other bodies that they killed. You know, that was a big kill.
Anyway, you know,

Speaker 1 gave the servers an acid bath. Why would you do that? They didn't try to do that.
They're like, yes, it did happen. Here's what happened.
And it's not going to happen again.

Speaker 4 And I think it's totally consistent to talk about all of those things and also acknowledge horrible mistakes. Horrible, horrible.
I mean,

Speaker 4 it is, we would absolutely be hilariously laughing at the Obama or Biden administration if they did something like this. You can't, I'm sorry, you can't make that mistake.

Speaker 4 We've all done it, we've all had moments like that, but like there, we need an extra layer of making sure

Speaker 4 on conversations.

Speaker 1 What's nice, though, is this administration hasn't had leaks yet. It hasn't had leaks.
Yeah, remember the last term

Speaker 1 when Donald Trump was in? I mean,

Speaker 1 it was a sieve. It was leaking everywhere.
The nice thing about this is: yes, mistake, bad mistake, needs to be taken care of. Fix it, fix it, move on.

Speaker 1 But the good news is,

Speaker 1 I didn't immediately jump to

Speaker 1 who in Waltz's office is setting this up, who leaked this, who, you know what I mean? Yeah, right, right. It's nice to know that we have an administration that is not being sabotaged from the inside

Speaker 1 and people that are trying to do the right thing for the United States.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And the other thing, too, people are

Speaker 4 confused about why an Atlantic reporter would be in Mike Waltz's Rolodex, if you will.

Speaker 1 He was a congressman.

Speaker 4 First of all, he's a congressman. And second of all,

Speaker 4 and this, I think, people who don't run in these circles don't necessarily understand. These guys all talk to these reporters.

Speaker 1 And even if they do.

Speaker 4 Staff members, press people, they all talk to them. And it's not because they're bad people and they're like leaking stuff against Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 It's they're trying to get their side of the story in all of these stories. So they all freaking give them stuff on background.

Speaker 1 At one point, it's been long deleted, but I had Katie Coric in my Rolodex, Ariana Huffington. I mean, we didn't call each other, but we met each other.

Speaker 1 And we met each other at one point. We're like, hey, here's my phone number.
If you ever need anything, call me, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 4 Stuff happens all the time.

Speaker 4 All the time. It is

Speaker 4 super common. And it's a lot of times it's when you're the victim of a bad story.
Yes. They will reach out to you and say, well, what am I, how do you explain this?

Speaker 4 And you'll try to get your side into it for at least a little bit of pushback. There's an entire industry that does this.

Speaker 1 And nobody can say, I didn't know how to get a hold of you. Yeah, I gave you my phone number.
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Speaker 1 First of all, the FBI is now responding to the ongoing attacks against Elon Musk.

Speaker 1 It appears as though everybody is saying these are lone wolf attacks.

Speaker 4 Are they?

Speaker 1 Law enforcement now, the FBI,

Speaker 1 has received 48 reports of attacks on Tesla vehicles and the dealerships and charging stations so far just this month.

Speaker 1 And it appears that they may be coordinated. Don't know yet, but I wouldn't doubt it.
All you have to do, though, is coordinate a couple of them and then just the crazies take over from there.

Speaker 1 But we have now moved

Speaker 1 a 10-person task force of special agents and intelligence analysts from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.

Speaker 1 They've moved them into the Department of Treasury and the FBI's counterterrorism division, and they are specifically going after those people and those groups that are targeting Elon Musk and his company and your car, possibly.

Speaker 1 Speaking of cars, yesterday, big, big announcement. Hyundai, has announced $21 billion of a U.S.
investment. They are bringing one of their factories here to the United States.

Speaker 1 They're going to be building cars here. This is another one of these things where the Trump tariffs,

Speaker 1 this part at least, seems to be working. He is threatening these tariffs and

Speaker 1 companies are starting to move here into the United States because they want the tax break and they also don't want the tariff on their car. Did you see what Europe did yesterday?

Speaker 1 We have had tariffs so high. No car, no American car is selling over in Europe.

Speaker 1 One reason is their streets are really, really small and our trucks and SUVs are really, really big. So that's one reason.

Speaker 1 But the other is you can't afford them over there because the tariffs are so high. We don't have tariffs.
We didn't have tariffs on their cars. So Trump said 20% tariff.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 1 they folded. They agreed to a 2.5%

Speaker 1 tariff. And it looks like we're going to do 2.5%.

Speaker 1 So that's good, especially if you're a car dealer of anything foreign from Europe, at least. That's a good thing.
That looks like that should happen and be finalized this week.

Speaker 1 By the way, there's a story out today from CNBC. Tax revenue collected by the IRS set to plummet.

Speaker 1 Officials at the IRS and Treasury Department are anticipating tax revenue to drop more than 10% by April 15th compared to last year.

Speaker 1 The loss of tax receipts is expected as more individuals and businesses don't file taxes or attempt to avoid paying balances owed to the IRS.

Speaker 1 The amount of lost federal revenue could top $500 billion.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Why?

Speaker 1 Officials say that the prediction is directly linked to the shifting taxpayer behavior and President Trump's cuts at the IRS.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 When I read that, I'm like, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 You know what this is? This is another thing coming from the left, the deep state, everything else. He can't cut those jobs at the IRS.
That's too important. We'll lose too much power.

Speaker 1 He can't get rid of those 80,000 people.

Speaker 1 And shifting, wait, what was it?

Speaker 1 Shifting

Speaker 1 Where was that? Receipts expected as more individuals and businesses don't file tax or attempt to avoid paying balances owed to the IRS. Okay, nobody's shifting that.
I mean, is there a new thing?

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm pissed at my taxes. I don't want to pay my taxes because I think they've wasted so much of my money, but I'm paying my taxes.

Speaker 1 I don't know any big movement that's saying, we're not paying our tax. There was a bigger movement during the Tea Party than there is right now.

Speaker 1 But this is all a government nonsense story to get you to get you to believe that we're all going to collapse because we've cut 80,000 IRS people that really hadn't even started doing anything yet.

Speaker 1 The House GOP is now insisting on Senate cooperation for the reconciliation talks.

Speaker 1 The Senate has broken down. This is for the big, beautiful bill.

Speaker 1 And the Senate needs to get their ass in gear.

Speaker 1 The country is at stake. You cannot stall on what Donald Trump is doing.
It requires action and action now. This is a very delicate balance.
He's got to have all the pieces in line.

Speaker 1 You can't hold a piece like tax cuts back. You can't hold the piece of regulation back.

Speaker 1 That's the kindling. He's hitting sparks now, but he's got to have some kindling that can catch fire on the economy.
And Congress and the Senate, get your ass in gear.

Speaker 4 Now,

Speaker 1 the House, voting on restraining nationwide injunctions to stop the judicial overreach against Trump. This is absolutely imperative as well.

Speaker 1 We knew this was going to happen. What did they tell us as they were going after Donald Trump

Speaker 1 to make sure that he went to prison? What did they say? A, he's not going to be president again because we're going to put him in prison, but we learned a lot.

Speaker 1 The way to get this guy is to go after him with the judges and the court system.

Speaker 1 It didn't work, but they doubled down after he was elected. Don't worry, we'll stop him in the courts.

Speaker 1 So anybody believes that this is just spontaneously happening because all of a sudden these leftist judges are like, you know what? I really care about the Constitution.

Speaker 1 I didn't care about it just a few months ago, but now I see how important the Constitution really is. This is nothing but another piece of failed strategy from the far left.
And it's got to stop.

Speaker 1 I'm going to tell you in a minute how our Constitution, well, you know, let me do it now. Let me tell you how our Constitution is written and

Speaker 1 what each role of the branches of government, how the founders put this together.

Speaker 1 We don't trust our government now.

Speaker 1 Now, we went through a period to where we did trust our government, but it wasn't during the founding era. The founding era, all of the founders were like, don't trust the government.

Speaker 1 We gave this to you. And nobody trusted.

Speaker 1 Even government officials said, it's getting out of control. It's getting too big.

Speaker 1 Why just ask for extra money so we could have some wood to put into

Speaker 1 the potbelly stove to keep you know, the chamber of Congress warm.

Speaker 1 They all feared it was going to get out of control because they all came out of a kind of totalitarianism with the king. So what they put together is checks and balances.

Speaker 1 And you've heard this a million times. Three forms of government, checks and balances.

Speaker 1 But let me give this to you so you can explain this to your children or to your friends that don't understand this.

Speaker 1 There are several things the founders were afraid of. One, big states are going to gobble up and take all the power from the little states, and they will just, they'll bully everyone around.

Speaker 1 The one they were worried about most was

Speaker 1 New York. New York was a big state and Delaware was like, we're a state.
Nobody's going to listen to us.

Speaker 1 And sadly, Delaware,

Speaker 1 nobody listens to you now just because you deserve it. But

Speaker 4 I shouldn't have bidened the rest of the country.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you would have done that, we would have been fine. Anyway, so what they did is they came up with the Electoral College and everybody wants to now get rid of it.
And

Speaker 1 I want you to see the progressive game plan here on the Constitution. Right now, they're trying to get rid of the Electoral College.
What was that for?

Speaker 1 That was a check on the power of the big states, like California, even Texas, and New York. We have to have that so the little states don't have to live like

Speaker 1 everybody wants to live in California or New York. And New York doesn't have to live like the way Texas wants everybody to live.
Okay.

Speaker 1 They want to take that check and balance out.

Speaker 1 They've done it before, and you'll see here in a second.

Speaker 1 So we have the House of Representatives based on census, so everybody gets, you know, representative, you know, checks, and the Electoral College. So that was to balance that concern out.

Speaker 1 Then when they made Congress, they gave Congressmen a two-year term. I mean, I can't even imagine how fast that goes.
It must be like you're running for election all the time.

Speaker 1 It's just two years, really? Why?

Speaker 1 Because they put the purse strings. This is why every law that involves any kind of money must start in Congress because they're the closest to you.
They're the fastest to get rid of.

Speaker 1 Every two years they start doing stuff that you don't like. You can vote them out.
No other office has that every two years. And that's because they have the checkbook.

Speaker 1 If they start writing bad checks, if they start moving the country in the wrong way, you are the check on them. Okay?

Speaker 1 All these things with money has to start with them because they're the closest to you and the fastest way to get somebody out legally.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 also a check on their out-of-control ways would be the Senate. So let's say Congress starts to act in a way way that is all about the federal government and has nothing to do with the states.

Speaker 1 The Senate is supposed to be representatives from each state that are not elected. Instead, they are appointed by each state.

Speaker 1 So the legislature and the governor get together and say, we want this guy to be our Senate representative. Why did they do that?

Speaker 1 Because they were afraid of the federal government getting so big and powerful that the Congress would just start thinking, we're a federal agency, we're here to make sure we can grow the size of government, we can do all these things.

Speaker 1 And they knew that if Congress got out of control that way, they had to have the states there that only care. Chuck Schumer should only care about New York, not the rest, just New York.

Speaker 1 He's fighting for what New York wants. But right now, because the progressives changed this around the turn of the century, what happened? Chuck Schumer is now, that's now a national election.

Speaker 4 Why? Shouldn't be.

Speaker 1 It shouldn't even be an election according to Congress, or I'm sorry, according to the Constitution. But the progressives passed an amendment to abolish that check.
Notice

Speaker 1 the check on the states eating each other or the big states eating the small states,

Speaker 1 they want to take that out. They're working on that now.
The next one that balanced the states versus the federal, they want to take that one out and they did take that one out.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 1 the Senate acts as a guard against an out-of-control government just growing bigger and bigger and bigger.

Speaker 1 The next one.

Speaker 1 What happens if the Senate colludes with the House against the Constitution? Well, now that you have taken away that, you know, that check and balance of the Senate, it could happen.

Speaker 1 So what happens then? The veto power. That's why veto is so important.

Speaker 1 The administration can veto it, but that veto is only supposed to be if the government thinks, or I'm sorry, if the president thinks this is unconstitutional.

Speaker 1 Because remember, They all raise their hand not to say,

Speaker 1 I'm going to make sure we're making jobs. I'm going to make sure that we've got everybody equal.
No, they raise their hand to say, I will protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Speaker 1 So the number one job of each of them is to make sure they're guarding their own house and their own power to be a check and balance against the other branches of government.

Speaker 1 So now, if you have an administration that just starts to go out of control and begins to make its own laws and rule as a dictator because he can,

Speaker 1 which is what the kind of administration we have have had now since, well, really since FDR.

Speaker 1 But the administration is way out of control and way out of balance. It's why half the country fears the president, no matter who it is, half the country fears that guy.
He's going to come.

Speaker 1 He's going to shut me down. He could put me in jail.
Because the administration has too much power. How did that happen?

Speaker 1 Because Congress, again, has the check on the administrative power.

Speaker 1 It is the the check that says, you know what, we're not going to fund that. We're not going to fund them anymore.
You know, if you're going to use the ATF that way or the FBI, no funding for you.

Speaker 1 Get it back in line or we cut it off. That's a big power move.
The other thing is,

Speaker 4 don't you make a rule? What are you doing making rules?

Speaker 1 We pass laws here. You can't just go and make up your own rules.
It all has to come through Congress. Well, the founders didn't realize that Congress would no longer be greedy about power.

Speaker 1 They would care about not being blamed for stuff more than their power. So Congress gave that power up to the administrative state.
That's why this is all out of balance.

Speaker 1 They can cut off the money or change the laws. Make sure that can't happen.
The Reigns Act comes to mind.

Speaker 1 The founders knew. that people hoard power.

Speaker 1 But now they're not. And that's why we're out of balance.
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Speaker 1 Okay, so the founders knew that all of these things could get out of control.

Speaker 1 And the administrative state, in the end, could make Congress irrelevant if the administrative state just gets too much.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 the check on the administrative state was greedy congressmen, but that has failed because the progressives changed it. The administration gets out of control.
Congress can impeach.

Speaker 1 Senate holds the trial and votes. That's the check.
Now, if Congress gets out of control and starts just wielding that weapon, the check on them is the president has a bully pulpit.

Speaker 1 He can go right directly to the people. If Congress gets out of control, the check on Congress is the people vote every two years.
Also, you can impeach Congress

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 the state, the Senate that was supposed to be run by the individual states, they can hold the hearing and impeach. Senate gets out of control?

Speaker 1 Well, it can't. originally because its power comes from each state.
But if it did, you can impeach and

Speaker 1 get rid of those senators that are out of control. Also, the president could veto all of the power and all of the things that were coming out of the Senate.
The final check is the Supreme Court.

Speaker 1 Now, this is the weakest of all of them.

Speaker 1 One judge, one judge can be impeached.

Speaker 1 In fact, the Constitution says, and read the Federalist Papers, it also says that the federal government can eliminate and abolish all federal judges. It could close the courts.
Congress has to do it.

Speaker 1 But they can close all the federal courts. Just not the Supreme Court.
And the Supreme Court is the one that is the final check on Congress and the President.

Speaker 1 But they don't have the power of enforcement. That's why it's the weakest one.

Speaker 1 Here's the thing. Our entire system is out of whack.
Don't try to change things.

Speaker 1 Just try to go back to the Constitution. Let the rule of law, constitutional law, be the supreme law, not the ones we make up.

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Speaker 1 You know, we're just talking about the balance of power and how our Constitution is set up and how important the press is because they say that's the fourth branch of government when all else fails the real important ones the ones who set up our government is we the people and we can only we can only be a check on our government if we are informed and educated but our system of media does not inform or educate you it miseducates you and makes you ill-informed because it gives you disinformation

Speaker 1 This is one of the things that we have been working on for years and years and years to make sure that that doesn't happen and and try to get more and more people to listen and participate so

Speaker 1 they can start to see what's really true. Well, if the media is in on all of the cover-ups, then you have a really hard time, especially if the government is keeping secrets.
So

Speaker 1 last week, the JFK files started to be released. Finally, okay.
What happened, not just on November 22nd of 1963, what happened in the months prior to that?

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 1 Where were all the players?

Speaker 1 Did they run into Oswald? Did they have him on the radar? We know a lot of this stuff. But there's a lot of new stuff that has also come in.

Speaker 1 And we would not have been able to really go through all of these in a week had we not used AI.

Speaker 1 And we are very vigilant on AI. We don't let it hallucinate.
We double and triple check everything because it's lazy and it hallucinates.

Speaker 1 So we were really, really careful on how we used it, but it gave us some things that we may not have found in the records had it just been my team. It would have taken us a lot longer.

Speaker 1 So tomorrow on our Wednesday night special, I'm going to bring you everything that we found.

Speaker 1 uh in the files that we think are important uh and then we ran scenarios through uh AI, ai and we asked AI with all of the information passed, including the Warren Commission, everything that has just been released,

Speaker 1 who likely is the killer?

Speaker 1 And it gave us five groups or people.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 number

Speaker 1 one

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 with a very high rating. Lee Harvey Oswald.
I happen to believe that's true. Number two, however, is fascinating.

Speaker 1 And you will see, we will lay out the case and show that to you.

Speaker 1 We also, I went up, you know, last week, I went to a range just right here by the studios, and I was shooting the exact sister of Lee Harvey Oswald's gun. And it had been modified by him.

Speaker 1 The scope was a Japanese scope. The gun was a cheap gun that Greece used in

Speaker 1 World War II. They ran out of ammunition in Greece.
The gun was barely used. Then they ran out of ammunition.
And so the CIA

Speaker 1 actually went to the Defense Department and said, we have to order this special ammunition for this gun. They made all kinds of rounds.
and ship them over to Greece so they could use the ammunition.

Speaker 1 Well, they didn't use most of the ammunition, so it sat in warehouses in Greece.

Speaker 1 And then the CIA and the Pentagon brought it back to the United States.

Speaker 1 Then

Speaker 4 how

Speaker 1 Oswald got it, I mean, it was for sale, but it was so specific and it's just a weird story. When you hear the whole story, you're like, hmm, that's odd.
It's just conspiracy.

Speaker 1 And I'm not saying there is anything on the gun or the bullets, but conspiracy rights itself the way this thing happened.

Speaker 1 I took the gun out last week with the, it's $40 around because it's historic ammunition. And we fired it, I think, five times.
Three were just to adjust the sights on it to make sure it was zeroed.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 I was shooting stationary targets. Can that distance, how hard is it with this crappy, crappy gun and this really crappy

Speaker 1 sight? It's almost like a BB gun. You know the fake sights that you get on your kids where it's not really magnifying anything and it's really bad? It's almost that bad of

Speaker 1 a scope.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I hit the targets we were trying, then the gun jams.

Speaker 1 Then over the weekend, I went up to another range in Oklahoma that would drag a car behind a big tractor,

Speaker 1 you know, on a chain that was 60 feet long, So they were out of the shot. And we put

Speaker 1 balloons in the back of this vehicle. And my job, we had it all marked out exactly the same angles.

Speaker 1 I was supposed to go up higher on this lift. I was up probably two stories, was supposed to go up six, but it got so windy, we just stopped because it was really dangerous.

Speaker 1 So I'm only up two stories, but

Speaker 4 it's

Speaker 1 everybody said it would be difficult. And I was there for eight hours on Sunday doing this

Speaker 1 and filming this. What did we learn? Could he have made that shot? How hard was that shot? Because

Speaker 1 I'm not a sniper.

Speaker 1 How hard was it? And what did we learn? afterwards. You're going to see all of this on the Wednesday night special tomorrow night at nine.
It's really going to be good.

Speaker 4 You're not a sniper, but you're a good shot.

Speaker 1 I'm a good shot, but I don't rifle shoot usually.

Speaker 1 I use my shotgun a lot. I use my pistol a lot.
I'm very good at that.

Speaker 1 I don't shoot a rifle with a scope,

Speaker 1 hardly ever, but I am a good shot.

Speaker 1 How good of a shot? Well,

Speaker 1 you'll find out. Because, you know, I walk on and I'm like, you know, I'm a pretty good shot.

Speaker 1 And one of the guys that was there is a friend of ours who is a, who shot for Beretta professionally for a long time.

Speaker 1 And he's like, uh-huh, guys, we're going to be here all day.

Speaker 1 Is it a hard shot? Could I do it? You know, I kind of learned a lesson yesterday.

Speaker 4 How important is it that we figure this out? I mean, we've been talking about this for a half a century.

Speaker 1 So, you know, that's a really great question. I don't know if you saw in the show prep today.
Let me see if I can find it. Ben Shapiro

Speaker 1 wrote an article about, does it really matter who shot JFK?

Speaker 1 Yes and no.

Speaker 1 The question should be,

Speaker 1 is finding out who shot JFK the most pressing issue that we have? No, I don't think so. But it's foundational to everything else we're doing.

Speaker 1 And you'll see tomorrow, the evidence that has been released so far, the ones that we have found,

Speaker 1 It is really important that it is understood

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 if the government was out of control back then and nobody knew it and nobody stopped it, what are they doing today?

Speaker 1 This is the possible beginning of a deep state in the modern era that we understand.

Speaker 1 What is the military industrial, the intelligence industrial, educational industrial complex doing?

Speaker 1 What were they doing back then?

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 it's important that we restore the trust as much as we can. I don't think tomorrow's special is going to make you it's not going to restore the trust of the agencies involved in all of this.

Speaker 1 But the first thing to do is to actually look at the infection. So that's important.
Not necessarily who killed him, but what

Speaker 1 happened? What really happened? And was our government involved at all?

Speaker 4 Do you think the trust can be restored?

Speaker 4 Is that a project that is even achievable?

Speaker 4 So,

Speaker 1 yes and no. You know, our founders didn't trust the government.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 1 Okay. They wanted to, but they all talked about don't trust the government.

Speaker 1 It's people.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 can you trust people with a lot of power and money and influence and control?

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 1 never, nor should you.

Speaker 1 However, we can trust the checks and balances, and those are all out of whack. That's what we have to put our trust back into.
Our media

Speaker 1 is not acting as a third branch. It has no check or balance.
It's part of the cover-up. It's part of the deep state.
So we've lost trust in that. That can be repaired.

Speaker 1 It'll take a while, but that could be repaired.

Speaker 1 Do we trust that

Speaker 1 there are systems in place that can expose and prosecute? Right now, no. But Pam Bandi and Cash Patel

Speaker 1 could restore those institutions back to some credibility and make sure the bad guys, no matter left or right, big or small, all go to jail and pay the same price. That's what has to be restored.

Speaker 1 Not trust in government. Trust in

Speaker 1 the checks and the balances.

Speaker 4 And we should be working toward those things at at least, right? Like, as far as trust as government, I don't want a society that just blindly trusts government. That's terrible.
That's North Korea.

Speaker 1 Well, no.

Speaker 4 At least in public.

Speaker 4 In public, yeah.

Speaker 1 In this is, I think we're the worst because we have blindly trusted it. We blindly trusted the media to be on our side.
Oh, they're going to tell us the truth. Oh, they wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 I've seen my government do things in real time that I never believed could happen in America. I mean, COVID, Afghanistan, all of the things.

Speaker 4 I mean, two great examples. Right.

Speaker 1 All of the things that have happened in the last 25 years, I never thought could happen here in America.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that's really bad because we blindly trusted our government.

Speaker 1 You know what? They like the country. They like, you know, they're just like us.
I mean, these guys are out of control and they're weasels, but they all are.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 That's why you throw them out of office. When they start to become weasels, you get rid of them.
Otherwise, they have babies and you're overrun with weasels. And that's what's happened.

Speaker 4 Kind of what happened in gremlins, for example. You know, you get them wet, and then all of a sudden there's more of them.

Speaker 4 Then you feed them after midnight, and the whole thing turns into a really terrible, terrible situation. And then they go to the pool.
When one of them jumps in the pool, then you're really in danger.

Speaker 1 I have to tell you, this is, no, it's a good example of why this show is called the Glenn Beck program.

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Speaker 1 Hey, welcome to the program. It is Tuesday, right? It's Tuesday.
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Speaker 1 I want to take you through a couple of big, big stories that are happening right now. Looks like the U.S.
and Russia, we have wrapped up our negotiations.

Speaker 1 I want to talk to you about the possibility of a three-front war.

Speaker 1 Talking to a friend of mine who kind of is knows, kind of in the know on stuff like this and said, looks like the world is preparing for something that we should be very well aware of.

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Speaker 1 60 Minutes did a story over the weekend about, you know, they talked to a drug cartel guy.

Speaker 1 He's like, oh yeah, we can move people and fentanyl across the northern border at any time, which is not helpful for, what Canada is trying to tell us.

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Speaker 1 So President Trump has imposed a 25% tariff on nearly all goods imported from Canada, and he's been saying, you got to work with us. You've got to secure the northern border.

Speaker 1 You've got to stop the drug cartels, the drugs, and the human smuggling that is happening on our northern border. And everybody's like, oh, no, Canada would never do that.
That's not a problem.

Speaker 1 Okay, it is a problem. It's a border.
It's a problem. And it's porous.
All of them are. We've got to do something about it and ask our friends on our border to help us.
Well, they're not.

Speaker 1 60 Minutes went up. I couldn't believe this was on 60 Minutes over the weekend, but they had a cartel smuggler on 60 Minutes.

Speaker 1 How does 60 Minutes,

Speaker 1 I mean, is that in the phone book?

Speaker 1 Where do you find a cartel smuggler? But they found one, and he went on record, and he said, I'll always find a way to get people illegally across the border.

Speaker 1 Here's a piece of what he said.

Speaker 7 This video was reported in January. A group of men who just crossed the border ran to an SUV that drove them deeper into New York.

Speaker 7 You'll also see a woman getting out of the car and go north to Canada. This man told us he coordinated the handoff and took the video.
Can you tell us who you work for?

Speaker 8 For the Sinaloa cartel?

Speaker 7 He goes by the name Javi and agreed to speak with us only with his camera off. He said he can't risk his identity being exposed.

Speaker 7 How does this work? They tell you where to go? They tell you how many people you have to bring across each week?

Speaker 8 Exactly. That's how it goes.
They provide the people.

Speaker 8 They have more people who are behind all this, looking for customers, finding them, and summoning them to certain locations.

Speaker 7 We found Javi through his online ads, which he says TikTok recently took down.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 1 Here he is talking about

Speaker 1 smuggling babies and fentanyl across the border.

Speaker 7 What's the youngest child you've ever crossed?

Speaker 8 Three months.

Speaker 7 Tres meses.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 Babies.

Speaker 7 What happens if one of the migrants you're working with doesn't pay?

Speaker 4 They cannot go.

Speaker 8 They're held hostage until they pay up.

Speaker 7 Until what?

Speaker 8 Until they pay.

Speaker 7 Do you work only with humans or do you move drugs also?

Speaker 4 Everything.

Speaker 7 How much fentanyl?

Speaker 8 Lately, it's been quiet, but for a while there, we were bringing in 30 kilos per month.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 7 The drugs come come from

Speaker 4 the China?

Speaker 8 From China.

Speaker 7 The China.

Speaker 8 I get more into the U.S., but also it goes from the U.S. to Canada and weapons.

Speaker 8 Hmm.

Speaker 1 Interesting, isn't it?

Speaker 1 So that's what we're dealing with. And I don't know if you saw the video of

Speaker 1 the the people that you know were boarded up on airplanes and sent to, where was it,

Speaker 1 Not Venezuela, but El Salvador. Did you see that? Trump posted this amazing video.
You guys didn't see this? Oh, we got to look it up and play it.

Speaker 1 It's this amazing video of the plane arriving in El Salvador and them getting on the plane, getting off the plane, and then,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 ankle and bracelets on their wrists walking hunched down into this new prison. And I got to tell you,

Speaker 1 that video itself, if I were thinking about coming here, I would immediately go, I'm not going there.

Speaker 1 If that's what happens to you, I am not going there. It sent such a strong, strong message.
This is how we treat people who are coming here who are bad guys.

Speaker 1 Now, this is the one that Trump is, or that the administration is in court now because an activist judge is like, you can't just do that.

Speaker 4 You know what? Why?

Speaker 1 Well, because you didn't vet them. No, I tell you what we did.
We gave them exactly the same kind of vetting that the last president gave when he let them all in. None.

Speaker 1 Now, these people were on a list, okay? Doesn't mean that they were all gang members, but you're here, you're here illegally, bye-bye. I know that sounds heartless, but

Speaker 1 I really believe that they all need to go home. All of them need to go home.
And a lot of these people were not just on a list.

Speaker 1 They were known to be gang members, and a lot of them had committed crimes here in America. Bye-bye.
See ya.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, if you, I love that. I heard some of these people are like, some of these people don't even have criminal records in America.

Speaker 1 Well, first of all, if they're here illegally, to me,

Speaker 4 they have a criminal record, right? They act like this is not a crime. Well, there's a law, okay? And I understand there's some nuance within that law.
But like, there's a law.

Speaker 4 You're not supposed to come here. They know they're not supposed to come here.
Many of them had criminal records at their home country and not here.

Speaker 4 Again, does that mean that we don't, that we're going to leave them here? No. Because they didn't commit a crime that we know of yet here? I mean, the point is to prevent those, right?

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 it's possible. Right.
That they made a mistake. There are some

Speaker 4 claims that a couple of these people should not have been going to prison.

Speaker 4 And even if they should be deported to their home country, if they didn't commit a major crime, they don't necessarily need to go to the El Salvadorian lockup.

Speaker 4 All that being said, find those problems, solve those problems, right? I mean,

Speaker 4 I liked what Elon Musk said about this in the White House a couple weeks ago when he was asked about it.

Speaker 4 And they said like, hey, you, and this has happened with Doge. Hey, you posted you saved $1.9 billion.
And actually that had been canceled in the previous administration.

Speaker 4 And he said, yeah, we're not going to get everything right. Like when we notice one of those those things, we're going to fix it and we'll get it fixed right away.

Speaker 4 Like, that is actually a normal human way of dealing with an issue like this.

Speaker 4 And I think it's so weird in Washington to hear it, but like, that's okay. Now, if you happen to be the person who was sent to this prison, you're not going to like it very much.

Speaker 1 But you shouldn't have been here in the first place.

Speaker 4 But you shouldn't, that's the point. Like, there is an initial thing that puts you into this bucket.

Speaker 4 If you commit a crime by crossing into this country, which we have warned you not to participate in, if you do that, there are consequences to it.

Speaker 4 And, you know, if you're wrongly sent to this prison, they should absolutely correct those mistakes.

Speaker 1 Well, I have to tell you, I mean, every message he is sending is the exact opposite message that Biden was sending. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's sending right now, even if what Biden was sending is, even if you're a terrorist, even if you're a murderer, we're not really going to check. So come on in, you're fine.
Now,

Speaker 1 you might be a good person. You might be, you know, a dad of 16, whatever, and you're just coming in, but

Speaker 1 we don't know.

Speaker 1 We don't know. So don't come.
Leave. Leave right now.
Leave on your own. He is begging people to self-deport.
And when you see the video, I got to play for you. It is amazing.
When you see this video,

Speaker 1 it is, I watched it. I was like, oh, we have it? Yeah, go ahead and play this.
Watch this.

Speaker 1 Shows the airplane. Now here they come down the stairs.
And look how they're all marched in a line.

Speaker 1 And they're all being marched right into this maximum security prison compound.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 no thank you. Doesn't look great.
Does not look great. Look at that.
No thank you.

Speaker 4 And this is Bukay who actually tweeted this to

Speaker 4 the

Speaker 4 president of El Salvador. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, you are not.

Speaker 1 Yeah. If you are

Speaker 1 thinking about coming to the country or you're here illegally, would you not be packing up everything right now and going, yeah, I'm not going to.

Speaker 4 Why mess with it, right?

Speaker 4 And it's the messaging. You know, as much as we've always been very, very difficult or tough on illegal immigrants, it's true.
There's always been a part of me that does acknowledge.

Speaker 4 the fact that we treat and have for decades treated illegal immigration kind kind of like it's a speeding ticket, right? Like, you know, you shouldn't do it,

Speaker 4 but we're not really going to do much about it. And if I were in a situation, like some horrible country that, you know, was everything was overrun, we were all poor, would I risk a speeding ticket?

Speaker 4 Yeah, maybe. You know, I mean, I like I, I,

Speaker 4 this is going to surprise people. Occasionally, I drift a couple of miles an hour over that speed limit here in the United States.
Um, that's off the record for everyone, anyone listening.

Speaker 4 But, like, yeah, you know, occasionally that happens. And I do it for almost no game.
I do it because I want to get home 13 seconds faster. If you were, if your entire family was

Speaker 4 devastated,

Speaker 4 you and the United States government was constantly sending you the signal. Sure, it's kind of like breaking the rules, but don't worry about it.
We got sanctuary cities here for you.

Speaker 4 The president was in a debate. He just won Joe Biden and he told you, what should we do with illegal immigrants? We should welcome them.
That's the real policy. Like, I could,

Speaker 4 it almost takes away a good chunk of the responsibility of the illegal immigrant.

Speaker 4 That's how bad our policy has been. The policy is different now.
The policy has been communicated quite clearly to anyone who would consider coming here or is here illegally. Yeah, get out.
Get out.

Speaker 1 Get out. And he's doing all of this to not have to round people up.

Speaker 1 He's starting with the worst of the worst and showing the examples of what is happening to them to say to you, please make the right decision. Leave on your own.

Speaker 1 We don't want to round you and your family up. We don't want you to go through this.
You have an opportunity. In fact, if you let us know,

Speaker 1 we're going to give you a special pass that means you could come back to the country and apply for citizenship, not ahead of the line, but you can.

Speaker 1 If we catch you here, And you haven't self-deported and you're totally a law-abiding citizen, you're never coming back. You're on a list, you're never allowed to come back.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 He's sending these messages and telling people, I think, with compassion, hey,

Speaker 1 we might come for you one day. You really should leave now.
We don't want to make this an ugly thing. You came in the wrong way.

Speaker 1 Sure, we encouraged it, whatever, but not anymore. And this has to be done or we turn into Europe.
Why is no one looking at what's happening to Europe and concerned?

Speaker 1 I was talking to a friend last night, kind of is in the circle of the know, and

Speaker 1 he said,

Speaker 1 I think the world is preparing for a three-front war. And I was like, wait, that doesn't sound good.
He said, you know, look at the actions. Look at what's happening around the world right now.

Speaker 1 He said,

Speaker 1 it could go horribly wrong with Europe. And it appears that there are players on all sides that want to have a war in Europe.

Speaker 1 You can make your own decisions on if that's true and why.

Speaker 1 But also in

Speaker 1 the Middle East,

Speaker 1 everybody is preparing for war and preparing for a possible war with Iran. And then China is preparing for war.

Speaker 1 And if If there is a huge war in the Middle East, then we're brought into it, and a war in Europe, and we're brought into it, you don't think the third leg would stand up and take Taiwan?

Speaker 1 They'd take it in a heartbeat because we would not be able to fight a three-theater war. We just are not prepared for it.

Speaker 1 And, you know, the one in Europe, if we're fighting in Europe, you know, we're approaching a place to where that could be a hundred-year war. Because that'll all be about ideology.

Speaker 1 And we're not talking the Russians. We're talking about the Islamic state.

Speaker 1 You know, they're, they're all, all these Islamists have been brought in and then they change and then they have no-go zones and then they set up Sharia courts.

Speaker 1 Do you think that's going to stop it sometime,

Speaker 1 France, Germany, Holland, Sweden? Do you really think all of a sudden they're going to go, but that's enough. We're not going to go past this.
We're going to have our Sharia courts.

Speaker 1 But we respect you Lutherans over here. Of course not.
Of course not.

Speaker 1 They have to take care of their own countries and the population that has been moving in, that is destroying their countries and making them an enemy of the freedoms of mankind.

Speaker 1 I don't want to deal with it. They need to.
But we're in the same boat. We must protect the homeland.

Speaker 1 We'll never be able to save anyone if we don't save ourselves first.

Speaker 1 If we don't know who's here, we don't control the crime in our own cities, we don't have cheap and effective energy, we don't have an educated, not miseducated, but an educated population, a hardworking population, somebody that, a population that understands its own country, its own history, and its own values, you don't survive.

Speaker 1 You don't survive. So we have a very clear job that we have to do.
And I think Donald Trump is is doing a good job of it so far. But the rest of it is up to us.
But we must act.

Speaker 1 I mean, I really think that God does what we can't do. I couldn't have stopped that bullet.
Couldn't have done it. Nobody could have stopped that bullet.

Speaker 1 God stopped that bullet from hitting him. I've never seen anything like that.
If that wasn't a clear, almost Moses parting the Red Sea style miracle, I don't know if I've ever seen one then.

Speaker 1 That was a miracle. But God does the things we can't do.
We now have to do the things that we have to do.

Speaker 1 And one of those things is if you want the government to be less powerful, we have to stop giving it power.

Speaker 1 If you want the government to do less, we have to take on the responsibility to do more in our own communities, neighborhoods, and family.

Speaker 1 That's the way we fix this thing. But the time to fix it is right now.
We may only have another three years and who who knows what happens in three years?

Speaker 1 Let's make sure we're doing all the hard work ourselves right now.

Speaker 1 Now, I think, and I've always thought, that it's times of crisis where you finally get to see what people are truly made of. You know, somebody's under pressure and they start to just go crazy.

Speaker 1 You know, that's their true nature. Now, sometimes, you know, I've exploded because I'm under pressure,

Speaker 1 but you immediately go back and apologize. You immediately go back and go, I'm sorry, that wasn't me.
Well, that's not what's happening with the with the Gazans when they're under pressure.

Speaker 1 They haven't apologized, nothing. Israel, on the other hand,

Speaker 1 when they're faced with unbelievable challenges and danger, what's happened in the last year and a half, look at what's happened. Look at what they've done.

Speaker 1 They soldier on, they buck up, they stand up, and they don't hate.

Speaker 1 That is a good group of people. I don't necessarily agree with everything Israel does.
I don't agree with their policies, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 And I don't want to fight their wars, wars, but they have a right to exist, and I want to stand with them in that right. I want to help bring peace and comfort to the people of Israel.

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Speaker 1 Did you hear the judge that yesterday say

Speaker 1 the Venezuelans

Speaker 1 were treated so horribly that even the Nazis got better treatment?

Speaker 4 Yeah, and his argument was basically that they had some sort of due process.

Speaker 1 No, no, not the Nazis. The Nazis were most of them were shot on site or

Speaker 1 they were taken to america where we gave them all kinds of gifts

Speaker 1 where they became uh scientific heroes yes exactly right better living through german science okay that's a problem but a lot of them were i mean they rounded up and yes they were given a due process but some of them were shot on site yeah you know in war for sure war it's war after the war um but

Speaker 1 um you know the the going to venezuela is not the same as being hung after a tribunal.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you know this. It's not the same.

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Speaker 1 Stu, what is the, in sports? What

Speaker 1 there's somebody that has, I think it's baseball, has an asterisk

Speaker 1 after their record.

Speaker 4 The famous one is

Speaker 4 Roger Maris because he hit his 61st home run.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 1 Which was more than Babe Ruth, right?

Speaker 4 Babe Ruth had 60.

Speaker 4 But Maris did it in 162 games instead of 154. So for a long time, in the official record book, there was an asterisk after that.
Hey, he had eight more games. That's why he was able to do this.

Speaker 4 They did take that away eventually. And obviously, that record has been broken since several times.
But they did take this asterisk away.

Speaker 1 I think they should put an asterisk on Babe Bruth. It just says, the guy couldn't run.

Speaker 1 He ate hot dogs and drank beer, and he was a fat guy. And yet, look at him, huh?

Speaker 4 I mean, arguably the greatest baseball player of all time. I know.

Speaker 1 And look at him.

Speaker 4 That's an American hero right now.

Speaker 1 Now they're doing steroids and everything else, and you're like, oh, you beat the fat guy's record.

Speaker 4 Big deal. That's a fair point.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The reason why I bring this up is because there is Aiden Gallagher,

Speaker 1 who is an 11th grade sprinter from McDaniel High School in Portland, Oregon. You know where this is going?

Speaker 4 I already do. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So you know.

Speaker 1 In the girls' 400-meter varsity race, he beat his competition by more than seven seconds.

Speaker 4 Wow, what an achievement.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what an achievement. What do you mean, he?

Speaker 1 Well, it's a guy.

Speaker 4 Okay. Yeah.
A guy? Yeah, his guy. What sport was it?

Speaker 1 It's a girls

Speaker 1 200-meter race.

Speaker 4 Do you see the problem with that at all? I do. I do.

Speaker 1 But apparently nobody else does. But I see it clearly and glad to see you see it.
And everybody in this audience sees the problem. And so they were cheering him on.
And then he gets up on the podium.

Speaker 1 And he's like, so he's just won

Speaker 1 a second race. He dominates now in the girls' track and field again.
Now,

Speaker 1 here's my, why I brought up the asterisks.

Speaker 1 I think, I honestly think that there should be some group that comes out and they set up the two boxes or even three boxes. And, you know, you can go and stand over there in that number one thing.

Speaker 1 That's fine. We're going to have another award ceremony just off to the side of that one where the girl who came in second place, third place, and fourth place,

Speaker 1 We award them first, second, and third. And every one of these records in these communities that are saying that was a girl should have an asterisk.

Speaker 1 We're going to have to remember who actually won as a female.

Speaker 1 It's going to come back, gang. It's not going to be like this forever.

Speaker 1 And I just, I would like to just start, I mean, I think that person should run and, you know, his family or his good friends can go, oh my gosh, that is so good. You go, girl.

Speaker 1 And everybody else can be like, yeah, we're meeting over here because here's the real first place winner for women.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think that's a great way of looking at it. I think, too, like, you know, we've put a lot of focus on gender for the story.
We, what?

Speaker 4 You know, when we talk about how, like, hey, you know, it's wrong and we go into the kind of the gender, how crazy it is that people say you can change gender by just wish casting it

Speaker 1 and all of that. I think the real story is what it's doing to girls.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think it's fairness.

Speaker 1 It is. Right.
And not only that, you've wanted to be a champion your whole life.

Speaker 1 And here comes some guy to take it away from you, and everybody is cheering and saying, You go, girl, it's a guy. Yeah.
Seven seconds ahead.

Speaker 1 If that was a girl that did it, they would deserve to be on the front page of every newspaper in America. Right.
It's a guy doing it.

Speaker 4 That's why it's stupid. And

Speaker 4 it's funny because the gender conversation that we've had at large is really important. You can't just change your gender based on this.
We're not going to necessarily accept all of that.

Speaker 4 But it's separate from this. And a good example of this is: I remember when my son was playing playing in his, he was in a 12U tournament, you know, baseball.

Speaker 4 He was 12. And he was playing in a tournament.
It was a good tournament, like really high-level teams there. And one of the teams had a girl on it.

Speaker 4 And now, the average pitcher at that time was probably could throw, you know,

Speaker 4 mid to upper 50s, right? Miles per hour.

Speaker 4 Some of the fast pitchers would throw maybe mid-60s. This girl was throwing like 73 on the gun.
I mean, she was throwing harder than almost every other pitcher in in this tournament.

Speaker 4 And there was no uproar about it. It wasn't like, how dare she switch genders and play? No one cares because she was essentially, you know, I hate to say it this way, but playing up, right?

Speaker 4 Like she was playing in a tougher arena.

Speaker 4 And no one complained about it because she was good enough to compete at that level. And it's the awesome series that is the problem.

Speaker 1 There is also something that all guys, no matter what you preach, they're like,

Speaker 1 you were beat by a girl?

Speaker 4 That is an element.

Speaker 1 They're going to get better. If there's any way to get better, they're going to get better just by saying, you were beaten by a girl?

Speaker 4 I will say, not only did this girl pitch very well, I saw her hit an over-the-fence home run

Speaker 4 in the same game. Wow.
She jacked a home run. And I was like, wow.
Now she was

Speaker 4 a big girl.

Speaker 4 She had some, yeah, she could do it. She had some muscles.

Speaker 1 I have no problem, honestly. But like, I have no problem with them playing up.
If girls could play at the same level, I think that would be outrageous to watch. It'd be great.
You know,

Speaker 1 here's a girl who's just like outpowering this guy.

Speaker 4 All right, go for it. Yeah, I mean, I'd be a little

Speaker 4 I'd be worried in a physical sport, especially as they get older, right? Like, you know, you have a football.

Speaker 4 You know, if you're going to go out there and play running back, I'd be concerned you're going to get killed. Like, so that is a different story.

Speaker 4 But when it's not a physical sport like that, they can go out and compete. I don't think the American people don't care.
They want girls to have a chance to compete with each other in a fair context.

Speaker 4 This is not

Speaker 4 insane. It is completely normal and it's the way it's been forever.
And that's the way it should continue to be.

Speaker 1 See, that's why sports, you know, when you say about football,

Speaker 1 that's why sports, it's different than competitive, you know,

Speaker 1 first, second, and third kind of sports. This is, if you can compete, go for it.
Go for it because we want to win. You know, all of us want to win.

Speaker 1 And we're playing as a team. When this is happening, you got a guy competing against girls.
Girls are not as strong as men are. Their bodies are just different.
They're going to be faster.

Speaker 1 They're going to be stronger. I mean, I'm not going to be, but, you know, most men, and I put myself loosely in that category, most men can do those things.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I don't want to see a girl beaten by a guy. And I mean, physically beaten up by a guy.
I don't want a girl in a boxing ring against a guy,

Speaker 1 even though he's wearing a dress. No, no, thank you.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm sorry, but

Speaker 1 maybe it's

Speaker 1 chivalry that still lives in some of us.

Speaker 4 Sexism is what it is, Gladys. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 Sexism. Yeah, no, it's chivalry.
Yeah, it is. It's chivalry.

Speaker 4 That's the good word for it. Yeah.
They would call it sexism. I would call it chivalry.
Yes. But it's true.
I mean, I...

Speaker 1 Because it has the word shiv in it.

Speaker 4 I say this to people, and especially around here, and the main culprit for this is our own Hillary Kennedy,

Speaker 4 who I can't watch

Speaker 4 the female boxing thing. No.
I can't watch it. I can't watch the female MMA stuff.

Speaker 4 I'm not saying they're not great athletes. I'm not saying it's incredible.
It is incredible competition. I can't watch a woman get punched in the face 50 times.

Speaker 1 I have a hard time watching guys with MMA.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean, it's just like at some point you're like, can you guys, okay, can we stop this? Can we stop this?

Speaker 1 This seems, and they're like, they both would look at you and go, what?

Speaker 4 I want to rip him apart. Right.

Speaker 1 And you'd be like, okay, there's something unnatural here going on. I'm uncomfortable.
With women, it's horrible.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, I can watch, you know, I've always been a boxing fan. I never gotten really into MMA, but I've always been a boxing fan.
And I would love watching those big, those big matches.

Speaker 1 Me too.

Speaker 4 But with when, with women, like there was a match they had, it was the Tyson Paul thing that was on Netflix.

Speaker 4 And I can't tell you how many people I've talked to, and almost everybody says the same thing about that match. First of all, they say it was a joke and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 4 What I actually was, I thought the whole spectacle was relatively enjoyable.

Speaker 4 I had a good time watching it. It was kind of a crazy thing.
But everyone says, but what was really good was the match before it.

Speaker 4 And it was two women who were beating the hell out of each other to the extent that in the post-game interview, interview, the woman who I think she lost is out there and her eye is like falling out of her head.

Speaker 4 There's just a flap of skin. Like

Speaker 4 her entire forehead just kind of plops open like she just had plastic surgery that went really, really wrong. And she's just talking.
There's just blood dripping down her face.

Speaker 4 And like everyone's like, that was an incredible match. And I'm sure it was if you're into that.
But like, I just, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 4 I can't watch a woman, even if it's another woman punching her, get punched in the face over and over again. You know, there's, I just can't do it.

Speaker 1 Have you ever seen those, like, those Denny's fights where all the women get up and they just start dragging each other by the hair and they're beating?

Speaker 4 So is the menu?

Speaker 1 I can't even watch those. Yeah, I did.
I see that. I'm like, this is disturbing.
I don't, I don't want what's happening here.

Speaker 4 I don't know if that makes me a squish or what. I'm totally with you on that.
And, like, so I have no desire to see that. And I think, I don't know, maybe there's, I feel like there's something in

Speaker 4 being a male and a husband and a father and all that stuff that's kind of built into you that says like violence against women, bad. Violence against men, eh.
Violence against women, bad.

Speaker 4 And I don't think that's something we should run away from, frankly. I think that's a good instinct generally.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be remembered, and maybe I'm wrong. I think it'll be remembered just a little bit like, I don't know, the Christians and the Lions.

Speaker 4 Okay. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It's cool to watch two lions fight.

Speaker 4 It is.

Speaker 1 But when you throw a Christian in there, I don't think they really have anything but a prayer of surviving.

Speaker 1 Not going to make it. Not going to make it.
I don't know how people found that entertaining.

Speaker 4 I mean, sure, it was entertaining, but

Speaker 4 you know, well, I mean, I've watched it in movies many times. No, you haven't.

Speaker 4 No, you haven't.

Speaker 1 I mean, you haven't really seen it.

Speaker 4 No, no, you haven't.

Speaker 1 I mean, can you imagine sitting there in the arena and cheering as a human being was ripped apart by a lion?

Speaker 4 Horrible. Horrible.

Speaker 4 Even there are, there's a certain level of horror movie that gets to the point where I can't watch it. I think when I was 20, you know, I'd be like,

Speaker 4 I know it's fake, but there's a certain level of it now. They really, I mean, some of these movies, the Terrifier series being one of them, I can't even, I could never make it through that movie.

Speaker 4 That sounds horrible. It's basically just like, it's for horror movie nerds, I would say.
And basically, every don't watch, don't watch it. I'm not going to watch it.

Speaker 4 I'm advising everyone in the audience, don't go watch it.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not going to.

Speaker 4 Don't. No.

Speaker 4 But it is basically

Speaker 4 every death as gruesome as as possible. And in a way,

Speaker 4 because horror movie nerds like practical effects and they like to talk about how amazing practical effects are, we've had a couple of them who work here and they're always like, oh, but the practical effects.

Speaker 4 But I mean, like, it is horrifically torturous, gruesome stuff.

Speaker 4 Many times two women.

Speaker 4 And I like, I had no stomach for that anymore. I don't know.
I'm just getting old. I'm turning into a squish, a wuss, whatever it is.
You really are. But I'm there.
I can't do it. I can't do it.

Speaker 4 I don't want to watch it. There's no reason for me to bring that into my head, to watch.
It makes you terribly uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 No, it really, there's no reason to put it in your head.

Speaker 4 None. But what was the name of it again?

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Speaker 1 Yeah, Tanya and I started watching a few weeks ago.

Speaker 4 It is really good.

Speaker 1 Really, really good.

Speaker 1 It's one of those that you, you know, I like series now because,

Speaker 1 you know, in the old days when it was on TV, you could never remember everything that was going on. You're like, who is that again? But now you can go back and watch.

Speaker 1 You know, it's easy to do these storylines that are very complex, you know.

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Speaker 1 This series is one of those where you're not really sure what is happening because it just gets more and more complex as it goes, but it centers around this Secret Service guy who's protecting the president.

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We got 30 minutes. And

Speaker 1 once we let everybody in, we may not ever find the truth. So let's.

Speaker 1 And you don't know what's happening. And then in the first episode, you're realizing they're not even in a real city.
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Speaker 4 You love it. There is a genre of television that does that where, like, basically the entire time you're trying to figure out what the hell is going on.

Speaker 1 And I don't want to figure out what's going on.

Speaker 4 I mean, I don't want to go back to lost, right? Like, it's that type of thing. You're always, you're always like, huh, like, what, wait, whoa, what is this?

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Speaker 1 I like it. Have you watched any Harlan Coben stuff?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 Yeah. His stuff, I love, Tanya and I love his stuff because he's like that.

Speaker 1 He, he'll have all of these characters introduced and you're like, when every character is introduced, you're like, they're the one. And then somebody else and you're like, no, no, they're the one.

Speaker 1 And then when you get to the end end of it, you're like, none of them were the one.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 And there's such good twists.

Speaker 4 I'm always skeptical of joining a series in that mode, though, if I don't know it's going to be renewed long enough to actually wrap it up properly. I know, I know.

Speaker 4 You know, like, once it's done, it's like, it had five seasons, had an ending, okay, I'll check it out.

Speaker 4 But, like, you never know if you're going to get two seasons in, they cancel it, and then they do, like, the last, like,

Speaker 4 you know, 20-minute wrap-up where, like, you could tell the series was going a different direction, and they just filmed something to end it.

Speaker 4 Like, you don't want to get involved in a series like that.

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