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We're going to talk a little bit about Epstein, even though it seems like everybody doesn't want us to talk about Epstein.
We're going to talk about that.
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And let me start here.
Yesterday, the president said something I thought a little shocking in the press conference.
While he was in a press conference with Pam Bondi, it was not a press conference.
It was a cabinet meeting.
And by the way, this press conference lasted about two hours, which is longer than I believe all of the cabinet meetings
that Joe Biden held over four years.
All of of them combined.
I think just the press conference in that cabinet room was longer.
But
he starts out and one of the first questions is about Epstein and goes to Pam Bondi.
And the president stops dead in his tracks.
And do we have the audio, please?
Here's what he said.
Saying Jeffrey Epstein, it left some lingering mysteries.
One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for a American or foreign intelligence agency.
The former labor secretary, who was Miami U.S.
Attorney
Alex Kosovich, he allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency.
So could you resolve whether or not he did?
And also, could you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of the second?
Yeah, sure.
Cam, could I just interrupt for a second?
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
This guy's been talked about for years.
You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things.
And are people still talking about this guy, this creep?
That is unbelievable.
Do you want to waste the time?
Do you feel like answering?
I don't mind answering.
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas.
It just seems like a desecration.
Okay.
That seemed odd to me because he ran on Jeffrey Epstein.
He ran on I'm going to release everything.
So there's a couple of ways to look at this.
He feels he did release everything.
There's nothing to see here.
Okay.
And if that is true, then quite honestly, I stand by what I said yesterday.
Pam Bondi should be fired for the way she rolled this out.
It was horrible.
It's one of the worst
rollouts of quote unquote the truth I've ever seen.
You know, just the just
the videotape alone.
Now, she came out and she said, well, there's that one minute.
Okay, that's fine.
That one minute, I don't think, is enough to show, you know, anything.
It was edited, we thought, yesterday.
And she said, it comes out and every year or every day, there's a reset just before midnight.
I checked with, you know, security experts.
That's absolutely true.
Not all systems do that, but some systems do.
There's a whole bunch of things we could go down that road on, but we don't need to.
But why wouldn't you say that?
Why would you, how did you miss that one minute?
Okay.
Second thing, it's not just pointing at the door.
It shows nothing.
It shows nothing.
But we can nitpick for every, you know, for everything.
I personally think we have seen a massive change in the White House and in the
way this was being handled.
At first, we're going to release everything.
And then I have it on my desk.
Then I have it on my desk and I'm going to release it probably tomorrow.
And then when that didn't happen, then it was the FBI in New York.
This is all Pampandi.
The FBI in New York is thwarting our efforts.
And there are people in New York that are trying to keep this information away from us.
And now there's nothing.
Nobody was arrested for trying to keep information away from her.
What is that?
It's mass incompetence, mass incompetence.
So she should be fired.
He's not going to fire her.
Because I think there's also something else going on.
I think, you know, and people are like, well, that's, you know, Donald Trump, is because his name is in it.
No, no, no, it's not.
If you believe Donald Trump, the guy has models hanging off of every single finger that he has.
If he wants the models, he's got the models.
And they're all overage.
And it doesn't seem to me that he's ever shown any, any.
I mean, just that's stupid to believe that he would be with a 15-year-old girl.
Stupid.
Are there people like that?
Yeah, I don't think he's one of them.
And he had a falling out with Jeffrey Epstein and everything else.
So I just don't believe that that is the deal.
And I think you're wildly misguided if you do.
But to each zone, I guess.
Now,
what do I think possibly happened?
I personally believe that he was an operative.
I think he was an intelligence operative.
And,
you know, you can say all you want, but when you're president of the United States and the intelligence agencies come to you and sit you down and say, okay, here's what happens, Mr.
President, when you release this.
You have, let's just say, there wasn't 5,000 people involved.
There was four, four.
One of them was Prince Andrew.
Okay?
So,
all right, go ahead and release that.
You know what that says?
That says that he was an operative working for us, and Prince Andrew was caught in this honey trap.
So now the United States of America just took one of their biggest, oldest allies and rope this guy into a honey trap.
For what?
For what, Mr.
President?
For what?
I don't know, for what?
Yeah, well, maybe we got nothing out of that, but this was a CIA
operation,
and it just happened to backfire on our biggest ally.
Do you think the world is going to stand for that with everything else that we've done?
No, I don't.
Now, I don't know.
I don't know what decision I would make if I were President of the United States.
I would think, I would hope that I would say, release it, because we have to clean it up.
Not my fault.
Not my fault.
Happened years ago.
We're not doing it anymore.
And I'm making sure.
And the only way to make sure that we disinfect is to fire all the people that were involved, make sure that it doesn't happen again and make an example out of people.
That's what I would hope I would do.
That's what I would hope the president would do.
But I have a feeling that he's not afraid of him being exposed.
He's not afraid of him being killed by the CIA.
I think he is making a decision that he believes is right for the country.
But he's not going to say that.
Now,
why would I jump to this conclusion?
Because Donald Trump is a very, very, very smart guy, and he knows how to handle the press and everything else.
What did he do?
Instead of saying, Pam, you blew this, rolling it out.
Look, America, there's nothing going on here.
There's nothing going on.
And I'm going to get to work on other things.
But I understand because we talked about it on the campaign trail.
So I understand your interest in this, but there's nothing.
Instead, what he said was, what a stupid question that is.
Have you ever heard of a dumber question with all the stuff that's going on?
Pam, do you even want to answer that dumb question?
Yeah, I'll take it, Mr.
President.
I just, I mean, and then looking right at the reporter, I can't believe you even asked that question.
What a stupid question that is.
What did he just do?
He made sure in that room there was only one question about Epstein.
Had he not done that, there would have been follow-up questions.
What Donald Trump just did was single one reporter out and say,
you're going to be that stupid to ask that question.
Now nobody wants to ask the follow-up question.
And only a few people will.
Now,
I'm not a reporter.
We will continue to follow this story.
But I have a feeling until you have somebody like Schellenberger that are going to dedicate their whole thing to
exposing this, because I do think there's stuff here.
But until you have Schellenberger or or somebody like that going after it and
really doing
24-7 kind of gumshoe work, I don't think you're going to find anything else.
Nothing else is coming from the government.
That was clear yesterday.
That's all you get.
That's it.
It's over.
Move on.
I don't suggest we move on, but
that's all the information we're going to get officially.
Okay, now let me change to another story that has been brewing since July 4th that is really important.
And as the days go on, it gets more and more important.
There was an attack on July 4th on ICE.
And this is looking more and more
well coordinated.
And there are three stories that I want to tie together that will show you what is coming.
We can talk about Epstein.
And I think it's very important that we do.
We can talk about Epstein,
but that is only going to solve what was in the past,
as well as what is still in Intel.
But this one is on the near horizon.
And I think
we need to talk about this one in depth today so you are prepared because I think we're on the verge of a massive change in tactics here in the United States.
And I'll get to that in 60 seconds.
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Okay, it's July 4th.
Let me take you back to a Prairie Prairie Earth Detention Center.
Now, this is like 25 miles outside of Dallas, Texas.
It's an ICE facility.
And on July 4th at night, about 10 to 12 people, all in black garb,
dressed
really in military garb and with military gear, the flak jackets, you know, bulletproof vests, et cetera, et cetera.
10 to 12 people come and they start firing fireworks at the facility.
Okay, then the crowd kind of breaks up a little bit.
They kind of, there's two people that break off to the side and they go after these ICE vehicles and they start, you know, spray painting ICE pigs and everything else.
That brings out the two ICE officers.
Two of them come out unarmed and they come out to try to get the guys to stop spray painting the
trucks and the vans, et cetera, et cetera.
When they do, snipers in the woods, unseen until now, snipers in the woods start firing at these guys.
One of them is hit in the neck.
Thank God he didn't die.
But he's hit in the neck.
They're unarmed.
Then everybody scatters.
What does this mean?
Jason is in, because we've been talking about it yesterday and we talked about it early this morning.
And this, he believes, and I do too, that this is a change now that we're going to start seeing in the future from the left because we've got two other stories to link to this.
But let's focus on this one first, Jason.
I'm just shocked that this is not getting a lot more
attention in the media.
But the way this attack was carried out, it shows complexity.
It shows.
So, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I read that.
It said, you know, that it's, you know, know, this was a very complex operation.
It really doesn't sound like it.
It sounds like you got a couple of guys in the woods, you got 10 or 15 people throwing off fireworks, and then you have some people spray painting.
So what do you mean it's complex?
Like,
it sounds, it's, I mean, if you've ever seen like a military movie or if you actually know military tactics,
this is the kind of plan that they would actually execute.
And this was not just a bunch of like thugs, well, they are thugs, but this is not just a bunch of random people with no plan that decided to piss off the ICE facility and get some news.
They had a force in reserve out in the woods concealed.
They had a plan is what it sounds like to make a distraction, then another plan to draw people out.
The people that were in reserve waited.
for all of this to happen.
They didn't join in, you know, with like an anger-rage mob.
That's not what this was.
This was a step-by-step by step plan to hurt someone.
That's what this was.
And if you're looking at the evolution, I know there's a lot of veterans right now that are listening and saying, wait a minute, this sounds very, very familiar.
This kind of sounds like what I saw in Afghanistan.
This kind of sounds like what I saw in Fallujah.
Yep.
And you would be right.
It is.
So this is why...
This is why this is so important.
This is now changed towards military operations, at least military-style operations.
This is not just a group of, you know, thugs that are, you know, getting wild and then shooting things up.
As
Jason just said, this was a well-thought-out plan to draw people out.
We saw this in Idaho with the fire.
Start the fire, bring the firefighters up.
and then be waiting for them and then shoot them.
That's a plan.
And the plans are starting to go towards military or terrorist-like activity.
Now, there's a second story to the USAID
color revolution.
Let me just remind you: USAID was a CIA front.
Everyone says, no, it was an aid organization and 16 million people.
This is an actual story headline I read last week.
16 million people are going to die because they cut the funding for USAID.
Bull crap.
USAID was started by the Kennedy administration, and it might have been started with good intent, but it was to stop the military, the CIA.
He shut down one organization from the CIA that was an absolute front and said, we're going to stop that.
We're going to do good with USAID.
Well, the CIA just infiltrated the USAID, and they started doing the same thing.
This is the group of people that started color revolutions all over the world, which was how to topple a nation.
And we did it all over the world with our CIA, and everybody wants to deny it.
When they cut USAID, what they did was cut the CIA.
Now,
listen to what's happened recently and what is happening currently.
We should note that what you just said is obviously a conspiracy theory.
Yeah.
Right?
They didn't do any of those things.
No, of course not.
Now,
separate from that, this is what they're now admitting.
Some of the democracy-building experts, quote-unquote, President Donald Trump fired this year from U.S.
AID and the State Department, are now reapplying their skills and knowledge that they built up over decades to undermine Trump's power.
Take it from those who worked in authoritarian countries.
This is a quote from them.
One of these workers, an anonymous federal worker.
We've become one, an authoritarian country.
They were so quick to disband AID, the group that supposedly instigates color revolutions, but they've done a very foolish thing.
You just released a bunch of well-trained individuals into your population.
If you just kept your offices going and had us play solitaire in the office, it might have been safer for you to keep your regime.
Now, this sounds like a patriotic aid group, doesn't it?
So now what they're saying here is that they are plotting regime change in our own country.
And here's what they've started to do.
They're starting to do now workshops.
Yeah, they are.
Let's see if I can find that part of it.
Former officials reportedly told this news outlet, this is notice, is the news outlet that reported on this.
Just want you to know, former officials of USAID.
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the aid workers of USAID.
And you have Democrats that have been so convinced that USAID is going to starve people to death because he cut it.
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Yeah, I want to show you this pattern before we get to the last story of the three.
First, we have the ambush of ICE on July 4th.
This was a military-style operation.
This is the left beginning to act like military or terrorists.
Then you have the USAID, the color revolution people that everybody has been duped into believing, oh, that's Donald Trump taking food.
I'm so sick of these people taking food out of children's mouths because it says aid in USAID.
This is a CIA operation.
That's what it is.
Open your freaking eyes, people.
I'm sorry I'm not, I'm speaking to a very small audience right now.
I am sorry I'm not speaking to you.
It's a CIA operation.
It is not Donald Trump stopping weather.
It's not Donald Trump causing tornadoes and floods.
It's not Donald Trump getting us into another war.
It's not Donald Trump starving little children.
This is an abomination to our country.
Color revolutions are a thing that we all know about or should know about.
We've been doing it and it's what causes people to hate our guts.
We go in and we say we know better and we are State Department and USAID goes in under the guise of aid
and we topple government after government after government.
Now they announce the people in USAID
now have said to the press, boy, Donald Trump sure made a mistake because he's unleashed all of us who are experts in color revolution.
And And so now we're going to topple this regime.
That's just Donald Trump just making up, you know, that's a right-wing conspiracy.
Believe what you want.
I am not fighting those people anymore.
If that's what you believe, fine.
Good luck with that.
That's the second story.
Now let me give you the third story.
The third story we talked about yesterday.
How now Democrat lawmakers,
Democrats, are now coming out and saying
they're beginning to be afraid of their own constituents because these are well, I'm quoting them, well-educated white people.
Wow, what a racist thing to say.
Well-educated white people who are now saying, we need blood.
You're not doing enough.
Maybe one of you should get shot so we can wake people up.
We are here.
We are now here at the chalkboard that I put up 12 years ago, 15 years ago.
Anarchists, communists, socialists, Islamists, they will, all these radicals will work together to destabilize and overthrow first Israel, then Europe, and then the United States.
We're here.
And what is coming is really
not
good.
And everything that this government does to protect you
is going to be fascistic.
And it will only lead to more division.
And it it will only lead to more people saying see i told you they were fascists
you know at some point
this
this constitution cannot hold
because there's not enough people that will listen to the constitution there's not enough people that believe in the bill of rights
There's not enough people who are good enough, decent enough, God-fearing enough
to actually hold this thing together.
It is wholly
inadequate for a
religious and a moral society.
A system of freedom requires you
to be intelligent.
It requires you to do your own homework.
It requires you to know history.
It requires you to think and ask critical questions.
If you don't do that, if you're just spoon-fed, if you think you can just parachute into very complex questions and complex situations with no information other than what you got off of social media,
you're going to lose your country.
Congratulations.
I hope you're happy.
And you know what's great is
once everything's really fallen apart and we're we're controlled by some foreign power or we're all just living like Mad Max, you're going to be able to blame it on Donald Trump.
Good for you.
You'll be able to say, I was right.
Good for you.
Pay attention.
I don't know how to do my job anymore.
I really don't.
I really don't.
I try to be reasonable.
I try to listen to both sides.
I try to understand.
Just did it with Jeffrey Epstein.
Could be.
Could be.
Don't know.
You know, it's funny.
I used to do this joke when I was on tour.
I did, I think, the Christmas tour I did.
And I told stories of my grandfather.
And my grandfather was the greatest storyteller ever.
I loved him.
But he was a
he was a liar.
He was a liar.
I mean, he was, he, he was a great storyteller.
And so he could tell stories and he could move people and he could, and, and he never had a bad thought in his heart ever.
He would always say, look,
you know, and I'll tell you a story sometime, but he would always say, look, they're happy and we're happy.
I'm like, yeah, but.
But grandpa, you just kind of conned them into that.
Yeah, but they don't know that.
They're happy.
No, no,
no.
Okay.
And in our family, we don't know what's true in our family history.
We have no idea what's true because grandpa would mix truth.
See if this sounds familiar.
Mix truth with fiction.
And he did it just to tell stories, just to tell great stories to the family.
And so we know there are stories that are absolutely not true because grandma would say, not true.
I was there, it didn't happen.
There are stories that grandma was there and she'd say, absolutely, I was there, it happened just like that.
And you can't tell the difference because they're both outrageous.
And then we're left with a collection of stories in the family that grandma, because we went before grandma died, we went and asked her all these questions.
Okay, is this one true?
Is this one true?
And there was a third category: true, not true, and could be.
Don't know.
Could be.
That's where we are as a nation.
That's true.
That's not true, and could be.
And we may never find out the real answer on could be.
And that doesn't help anybody.
But there are things that we know to be true today.
We know them to be true.
And those are the only things we have power over.
I can't say that.
Those are the only things that we should be really concentrating on.
We don't have power over any of this.
You think I'm going to make a difference?
You think you're going to make a difference?
Now, I know this sounds bad to you right now.
It sounds like everything opposite of what I've said, but it's not.
We have to choose the things that we really truly have power over.
And the things we really have power over is how we react to things.
The only thing we really have power over is us as individuals.
And that's how you save the country.
Not by saying, you know what?
Epstein, he was a CIA agent, which I believe.
He was either CIA or he was Mossad.
I don't know.
But he was an Intel guy.
That's what I believe.
But what difference does that make?
What difference does that make?
I can't change anything by just saying that over and over again.
and making that the hill I die on.
We can't change anything on that.
Now, Now, that doesn't mean that I don't have researchers looking into it.
Doesn't mean that I don't pay attention to stories.
But me just saying that over and over again makes no difference at
all.
What really makes a difference?
What is the only thing in the world that really matters?
Well, quite honestly, nothing in the world.
Everything that really matters is spiritual.
The only thing that will really change the world is spiritual.
It's the only thing that's going to save your family.
It's the only thing that's going to save our country.
And it's the only thing we actually have power over.
So when I'm saying I don't know how to do my job anymore, I am so sick and tired.
I am so
it is clear to me.
Now, I have been wrong before.
And, you know, one of my mottos now in the last 15 years has been: the only thing I'm certain of is that I'm not certain of anything.
Because could be,
but I've done enough homework to know,
and quite honestly,
I have been blessed
enough
to have given some foresight on some of the really bad things that are coming.
I don't know when they come.
I'm always wrong on timing.
But look at the track record, not my track record, his track record.
It's pretty clear.
I'm so sick of it.
I'm so sick of just wasting my breath every day.
Well, now what I should be doing
is just focusing on
spiritual things and focusing on, and I try to be a better person every day, and then I had to do a monologue like I just did.
I say this joking all the time.
I don't know how I got this job.
And I say this joking all the time, but I mean it today.
Boy, raise your standards, America.
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Yesterday, we talked to Selena Zito.
She's got this great book out called Butler.
And it's all about the attempt to assassinate President Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania.
And we brought it up yesterday, the story story up to what had happened, but we did not get into the
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And so today, we're going to talk about the shooter.
What do we know about him?
How did this happen?
And why does nobody seem to care about it?
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Hey, Glenn, thanks so much for having me on.
Thank you.
I'm sorry to
drag you over into two days here, but I appreciate your willingness to do so yesterday.
I want to now talk about, I mean, the first part of your book is stunning.
What you saw personally just five feet away from the president.
You're on the ground covered by a Secret Service agent while he's on the ground covered by a service, and you can hear everything he's saying.
And then you see him,
you know, you saw him before, then he calls you the next day because you were supposed to go on the plane with him.
And he calls you the next day, like seven or eight times.
In your book, you really explain what happened afterwards with the crowd, which I've never seen anywhere else.
And you explain Red State America in a way that if people cared to know the truth about who we really are, they would read it and they would understand.
And they would see, oh, my gosh, they're not monsters.
They really do believe some of these things, you know, about America, and that's how they live their lives.
But let's go in now to the shooter.
Who was he?
How did it happen?
How did nobody catch it?
What happened on the roof?
And why did nobody care?
Yeah, you know, Thomas Matthew Crookes, in many ways, Glenn, is very symbolic of the collapse of very once trusted institutions in our country that have failed us all the way around.
So what do I mean by that?
So this was
not, first of all, when it comes to my profession.
This is not something that has been deeply investigated in the way that shiny objects are given to detail by some of the best investigative journalists in this country.
There was a complete void of intellectual curiosity to get to the bottom of this.
The other problem is the collapse of our trust in one, at one time, one of the most faunted
parts of our government, and that is our Secret Service, right?
The competency, the incompetency of that day, the failure to loop everyone together, which, by the way, was one of the most important instructions from 9-11, right?
We didn't, our agencies didn't talk to each other, right?
That's why we created the Patriot Act.
Exactly.
So how in the heck can you, knowing that there's going to be 50,000 people there in a wide open farm field with trees, a water tower, and outbuildings all surrounding the perimeter in very close range of the stage?
How is it that there was no communication set up between the different agencies?
How is it that it wasn't fully and robustly staffed?
And given that they know this information, that he is already the target of Iran,
how
is this even possible?
So he's also symbolic of that.
But he's also symbolic, and we don't talk about this enough in a meaningful way, in how we handle mental illness in this country.
We shove it aside, we pretend it's not happening, we try to medicate it, mostly people try to ignore it.
And this is a young man, for all intents and purposes, had pretty much led a normal but quiet life
that after COVID and all the isolation that went along with that, he began to unravel.
And that unraveling happened at a warped speed in the last six months of his life.
And he was,
you know, this should have been a red flag to someone who cared about him.
He's at the gun range almost every day, went down to the gun range and checked the logs.
He is there almost every day, and he's there not just on during the, you know, a regular day, but he's also there on days like Thanksgiving and Christmas and Valentine's Day.
That tells you this is someone that is lonely, and this is someone that is isolated, and this is someone who has no support system around him.
The challenge with...
Hang on, hang on, hang on just a second.
I could see, because
I'm a parent.
I could see as a parent,
you don't understand how kids are growing up today.
You don't understand the world they live in at all.
And I could see, I mean, I used to spend, you know, working at a radio station, 13, 14, 15 years old.
I was gone all the holidays.
I spent it.
And you could say, well, he's isolated, he's lonely.
Or you could say, he's just really into this and he is, you know, doing something about it.
And it's what he loves.
and let's let him get him through this period um so why is this a sign of mental illness
well it's a sign of isolation and loneliness and and that means there's a vulnerability there right and and and as a parent we always we're always keenly aware of vulnerabilities in our children and and or if we have friends and and they may need mean nothing,
but they also mean something profound.
And that gets to my fourth problem is just the sort of collapse of the American family
and how we take care of our children and how we watch our children.
And do we put a screen in front of them?
Right?
Is that how we medicate them, right?
Is that how we get them to just be calm and quiet and go in another room?
Because we don't want to deal with it.
And so...
Or
can I present another option here?
And it's just because I just finished raising two teenagers.
It's not necessarily because you want them to just go in the other room and be quiet.
You have no idea.
Selena, I raised
four kids a generation apart.
And I got to tell you, raising the first set was not the same as raising the second set.
And it's totally different from my childhood.
And you spend a lot of time thinking, okay, this is not a good thing, but how do I deal with this without making things worse?
How do I, you know, what kind of space do I give them?
Because they are teenagers and they have to rebel.
How do I remain in their life?
I mean,
it is so complex now to be able to raise teenagers.
And you are seeing major signs, but you don't necessarily know that that's a major sign.
Or if it is, you don't have any idea how to deal with it.
Absolutely.
You know, in the book, I have the transcript of his father calling the police.
And you can tell in that conversation and in the details that he is giving the 911 operator that he had a feeling something was going on with his son.
That
he reveals it.
And every parent will read that and say, and
every parent that's had a child that they've been concerned about will read that and say, he knew something was wrong.
And this is a young man, by the way.
His grandfather was a Vietnam War, not just a Vietnam War veteran, he was a Vietnam War officer in the military.
Very highly respected man in the community, very involved in the community.
When he passed away 10 years before
last year, you know, he wrote in the obituary his great love for his grandson.
And you fast forward to today where
his wife,
Thomas Matthew Crooks' grandmother,
says she wants nothing to do with this family and hasn't for a while.
So what happened?
You know, and
part of the challenge
reporting about him is that the family lawyered up,
he was cremated,
and
and and the Secret Service was giving absolutely no information.
There's only so many, now I know there's other investigative journalists.
I will be the first to say that is not my skill set.
You know, I can go so far, but, you know, records and things like that, you know,
the way that they can do it
yeah
that's not you know my my biggest skill set
but you know going into the community talking to the neighbors talking to people you know re-examining this life it paints a picture that you know in hindsight you could say well the warning signs were there
so was this what motivated him
the problem with this young man
is
that he left no digital footprint, which is very rare.
Is that weird?
That is for someone his age.
It could be as simple.
I have gone back and forth in my head and in conversations with people.
It could be as simple
in his decline in mental health that he was last off of the rifle team because his shot was so bad and he didn't make the team just a couple years earlier and he wanted to prove to everyone that he was a good shot and and there doesn't seem to be any evidence that this was politically motivated because he he was he had registered as a republican but he also
demonstrated or um
gave money to democrats so it doesn't appear to be ideological as much as i'm going to to me This is my takeaway.
I'm going to prove to everyone I am good at this.
I am a sharpshooter.
And screw everyone that laughed at me that day.
You know, think about the movie Carrie, right?
Everybody's laughing.
Yes.
Right?
Think about that and the vulnerability of that teenager.
And nobody's laughing anymore.
I made those shots.
So,
what about the phones that had connections to foreign
operatives or whatever that was?
Anything there, Selena?
Not that we know of, but I do know that this is something that's still being investigated and still being uncovered.
And I think part of the reason why it's still being investigated is because it wasn't investigated as robustly as it should have been last year.
So
we have several things going on, it seems, at once,
including the press, as you said yesterday, you were on the ground with a Secret Service agent on top of you.
You're hearing the president.
You're seeing the blood.
And reporters are already saying that the president was hit by a shard of glass.
Yeah.
There was no real interest in pursuing this story because they knew, I think, they knew this was going to do really good things for his campaign.
Yeah, I think they saw this
and looked at it and said, oh, boy,
this is going to have an impact.
And they did whatever they could.
to muffle it.
I mean, three days later, we're talking about Joe Biden dropping out as the biggest story.
And I'm thinking, I'm still got bruises all over myself wondering how are we not talking about this?
I'm going to the funeral of Corey Compatori and seeing a family completely shredded.
And
I'm just so
you read throughout the book as I continue to cover this election as everything is changing in such fast motion in ways that people, when they read this book, they will say,
why weren't people people reporting this?
You know,
and it was so frustrating for me.
I sometimes imagine myself as sort of like Snoopy
jumping up and down and screaming and nobody's hearing me because there was so much happening.
And also, you know, I also covered
the Harris campaign and the unbelievable decisions that they made that nobody wrote about.
Nobody covered.
Nobody thought this is a red flag.
Okay, hang on.
We're going to get into that here.
Just to say, hang on, hang on, hang on.
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Selena, I only have a couple more minutes here.
Tell me what you mean by what was happening that was unreal by the Kamala Harris campaign.
So Harris spent the bulk of her time in Pennsylvania and an oversized amount of time in Pittsburgh.
The western part of the state is more conservative, more excited to vote and more influential in the decision of who becomes president.
And in that time, she barely interacted with voters.
She didn't do the things that are necessary to win over someone who is uncertain.
Every event was closed to the public.
Most of them were attended by the SEI Social Justice Union.
These are people who are already going to vote for her.
And so there's no ability for people to kick the tires.
She also made decisions.
There's this famous
neighborhood in Pittsburgh.
I know you've been there because you ordered Primances from there.
And
it's called the Strip District.
There are 120-plus businesses there.
All of them are small businesses except for one.
She picks the one that's a franchise.
It's called Penzies.
And Penzies
is
so against Republicans,
it's on the splash page of the business that the owner hates Republicans and they are not welcome.
That's where she chooses to go in and do a stage event and not, it shows the it shows the voter she is not interested in someone that's independent or conservative.
She is not interested in you, and she is more interested in someone that only shares her beliefs.
Like those small details matter.
They matter to a voter, especially someone very local.
They see her at Penzies.
There's a sign there that says Republicans aren't welcome.
And that's where she goes.
Selena, it is a great book, and it's more than I thought it was going to be.
I thought it was just going to be about the president getting shot and the aftermath of that.
But you have woven such a great story on who the American people are, how this dramatically changed the campaign in so many different ways.
I mean, it was like it just set off a chain of dominoes and changed and brought us where we are today.
So thank you for that.
Selena Zito,
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Jason Buttrell is with us, our chief researcher.
And Jason, what are we doing?
Is today Tuesday or today's Wednesday, right?
Wednesday.
I believe so, yeah.
What are we doing on today's TV show?
Tonight, we're looking at the potential new mayor of New York City, Mom Dani, and this gathering storm of almost accepted communism and socialism in America.
It's not going away.
And
what are the potential cues that we can take from what this means for us in the future?
Well, you couple that with what we talked about in the first hour of the podcast, where the left is changing and they're starting to develop military strategies, as we saw evidenced on the July 4th weekend, where
the left came out in black battle gear, really, and
did something that really is a military operation and shot members of the ICE team just 25 miles out of Dallas.
You might not have heard about it because, well, it happened over the holiday and the media doesn't care.
But we talked about it at length in our number one, coupled with two other stories that are very, very disturbing that shows what's coming.
Now you add the communist part of it and you're starting to see how we are being surrounded.
We have the communists, the anarchists, the socialists, the Islamists, and the radicals.
That's what my chalkboard said would all team up.
And I said they don't necessarily aren't going to plan it together,
which
shockingly many of them have, but they are all going to recognize a time.
It's go time.
Now, now, now, go get them.
And we're at that time, and it is critical that you understand and how our
school systems have completely failed us.
You know, nobody knows what communism is.
Communism killed more people than Nazism did.
By far, communism has killed more, more people in the last 100 years than
I'm pretty sure all of the disease in the world
combined.
I mean, it is, it's crazy how deadly that is.
And yet we're not teaching any of that to our kids.
And they are here now and they have coupled with the radicals and the Islamists.
And we are going to see it all tonight.
Yeah, I'm so struck by some of the shows we've done just over the past year to two years that are just kind of all coming together.
We did a show.
It was a Wednesday night special talking about how there were radicals.
This was back during like the BLM Antifa period.
talking about how some of these radicals were quoting from communists in Syria and actually getting training.
I don't know if you remember this, but getting training from the communist fighters, the Kurds in northern Syria.
I think about Stu talking about USAID.
You remember that story that we did, that show we did, another Wednesday night special, we were talking about
Obama's ambassador to Moscow.
Remember him, Michael McFaul?
Yep.
Before Michael McFaul even met with Vladimir Putin as our ambassador, he met with the people, the street activists.
He met with them before he met with Putin.
And I just want to quote this from a Russian publication.
This is what he told them.
He said, quote,
most of the specialists in Russia are diplomats, specialists in security, arms control, Russian culture.
I'm neither.
I'm an expert on democracy, anti-dictatorial movements.
revolutions.
He said this
to the Russian people.
And then he also, this is something that we pointed out.
He created something called the seven pillars, which was how to overthrow a government in a color revolution.
These are the kinds of people that even to this day, Glenn, are still praising USA.
I can't remember the seven pillars.
Do you happen to have them off the top of your head, the seven pillars?
I'm just so nerdy that I do, Glenn.
I have them right here.
Of course you do.
So I think this is interesting in a context.
These would be used as we move towards an election.
So think about
these strategies being used, let's say, during the midterms or during the next election.
Number one, a semi-autocratic rather than fully autocratic regime.
That's what they need.
They want to show that.
Number two, an unpopular incumbent.
Make him as unpopular as possible.
You use this for the street movements, the
ICE protests, all that stuff.
Could they make him more unpopular than he's been made?
He's the most beloved and hated man in the country.
Yeah.
Number three, a united and organized opposition.
Got that.
Forming that to this as we speak forming.
Number four, an ability to quickly drive home the point that voting results were falsified.
What they accused us of, I guarantee you, they are going to accuse.
Again, guaranteed.
Number five, this is kind of funny, enough independent media to inform citizens about the falsified vote.
Do they have biased propaganda-like media on their side?
I'm not sure.
Number six, a political opposition capable of mobilizing tens of thousands or more demonstrators to protest the fraud.
Look at, yeah, look at that.
Look at this.
Look at this.
So this is the way USAID, this is the way
color revolutions are done.
We have all of this stuff happening on our streets right now and they are starting to go become more militaristic in its nature and it's not just here in america can we play uh cut seven this is a montage uh of the protests that are happening all around mexico city
and no surprise they're mostly peaceful
if you discount smashing windows and looting
technically the art.
Turning a lot of that material into pieces.
So it's mostly peaceful.
Spell different pieces.
So what is it they're protesting?
This looks like you can see this in any city in America now from time to time.
What is it they're protesting?
No more gringos.
Get rid of the gringos.
No more Americans.
Look, Glenn, death to America does not mean anything.
It's got nothing to do with killing Americans.
No, it's just
about the idea that gringos present.
That's all.
Get rid of the white people.
No more white people.
No more Americans.
That's what they're saying now.
That's what the radical left is saying.
It's funny because that's really what the radical left is saying here in America as well.
This is a global operation, just as I told you it would would be.
It is a global operation to destabilize the entire Western world and collapse us.
And I have been thinking an awful lot about, by the way, Jason, you know, everything you just said about the shows that we did, all I can think of is I cannot wait for January
because we are developing a system to where
all of that information on all of the shows, it'll be at your fingertips.
I could have done it 25 years ago and
you won't even know how, what to ask for.
You'll be able to ask for it.
This is not in January.
It'll first be internally facing just because of the
computational expense.
But we'll be able to say,
did Glenn say anything about this?
And then can you go deep on it?
And it will go and search my entire history and bring all of the connections, all of the documents, everything that you need to be able to study it.
And you'll be able to apply it to new stories.
So you'll see the history of every you missed a show, you won't have to worry about it.
You'll be able to access all of it without even knowing what to ask for.
Right now, we have to know what to ask for.
How many times, how long do we wait going, wait, that wasn't exactly the right phrasing.
What was the right phrasing that will bring this script up or bring this show up?
Now we don't have to do that.
As of January, it's all part of this new project that I'm dealing with.
But
let me go back to the real story on
how do we
save our nation?
And the only way to save our nation is to turn the hearts of people honestly back to God, but at least back to truth.
How do you do that?
You'll notice one of the pillars there, and this is all Sololinsky too, is
you have to paint the incumbent as a fascist dictator.
Once you do that, it is really hard to go back and it's also hard to control it.
And this is what we're seeing now from the left.
Yesterday I told you about how democratic leadership, Democrats, elected politicians that are Democrat are saying they are afraid of their own constituents now because they're all starting to call for blood.
Well, of course they are.
You cannot paint somebody as Adolf Hitler and then and say we have to do everything we can to stop them and be preaching the ends justify the means at the same time and not expect people to say you're not doing enough.
I mean, even if you have to get shot, you have to get shot.
That's what their own constituents are telling people that, you know, some of you may have to die to make the point.
That's a little terrifying.
I don't think you can change change those people.
And I honestly don't even know if we can change the people that we love so much because people are so dead set on their right.
We can never become those people.
And I've been thinking a lot about, do you remember the book, Stu,
Positioning, The Battleground of Your Mind?
It came out in the 80s, maybe.
Yeah.
And it was right around the Cola Wars.
And it actually, if I remember right, it helped put
it helped put Pepsi
into a leadership position with Koch for at least a while.
They were the choice of a new generation.
Remember that?
Michael Jackson and everything else.
And it brought them, at least they may have passed them for a while, but at least it brought them to parody, which way they were a distant.
It's what inspired New Coke, right?
Yes.
That whole change.
Yes.
Which eventually, obviously, all of our
main point of it was, if I remember correctly, is perception versus reality.
Many times in the battleground of your mind,
you perceive something, and that is not reality.
It's how you perceive it.
And
this book, I have to go back and read it.
But if I remember, you know, remember, I'm drawing on something I read in 1980.
The idea is
you have to understand that in your
competitors' mind or in the minds of others, that is reality.
They perceive it that way.
They perceive Donald Trump as a dictator.
So it is their reality.
How do you come in and challenge their reality?
And when it is bound up in their life or death,
that's really hard to do, especially if you have also been tied in their perception.
Their reality is that you're part of the problem, that they can't trust anything that you say because you're just like him.
That's what we're facing.
And it's not with COLA wars.
It's going to be with actual street wars if we're not careful.
We could go into civil war
because you're now dealing with half the population that says
they have to be either rebooted, retrained, or we just have to get rid of them.
We have to kill them.
That, by the way, is fascism and communism.
That's totalitarianism.
And if Donald Trump would ever say anything like that about the other side, I would hope that every single one of us would be saying, no, we're we're not going to kill the other side.
We're not going to silence them, and we're certainly not going to put them in some sort of a camp.
But you've already heard those suggestions from the left because their perception is the reality.
We have to start looking at this fight differently
because
I think
we're in the real world.
We're the ones looking at reality.
Truth, hopefully, is our reality.
But they think the same thing about them.
You're not going to win this by playing the same game that we have been playing.
You might get Donald Trump in, you might get your team in,
and they might make some real inroads.
But how is it we're going to make these inroads and bring people back together?
Especially when you have forces on the inside that, as we told you in hour number one of this broadcast, and we're going to tell you tonight, these forces inside are hell-bent on making sure that reality stays exactly how they perceive it.
All right, back in just a second.
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Now, if any time in the last week you've listened to anybody on the left, they're busy telling you about how the National Weather Service is being shut down by Donald Trump.
And so that way we'll never know the weather.
Yeah, it makes perfect sense because who needs the weather?
None of that's true, by the way.
They said that Donald Trump, you know, fired people in the National Weather Service.
And so when they were doing Texas, they didn't have enough people there.
That's not true.
They usually have two people on duty.
That night, they had five people on duty because they were prepared for this.
Even Whoopi Goldberg, I mean, how far down the rabbit hole do you have to be for Whoopi Goldberg to look at you and go, I think you're too far down the rabbit hole.
Even she said yesterday, Donald Trump had nothing to do with it.
She's like, I can't believe this is coming out of my mouth, but I have to say it.
Well, good for you, Whoopi, at least you told the truth this time.
Good for you.
Now let's try to make a habit out of it.
The other thing now that is going around is that cloud seating.
Cloud Cloud seeding, it killed all those people.
I am not a big cloud seeder person.
I don't know much about cloud seeding.
I do know somebody who knows an awful lot about it.
In fact, I believe it was his company that did the cloud seeding just about a, I think a county away, just a couple of days before this happened.
So we want to talk to him because let's hear what his answer is.
Did this had anything to do with cloud seeding?
We'll talk about that in just a second.
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He is the founder and CEO of Rainmaker.
This is a cloud seeding company.
Welcome, Augustus.
How are you?
Hi, Glenn.
I'm blessed.
I appreciate you having me here.
And again, still, my heart and prayers go out to all the people of Texas.
I'm here in Dallas now, actually.
And though we didn't have anything to do with the flooding,
I still am praying for everybody affected by it.
It has got to be pretty disturbing for you to hear that you are being blamed
for
cloud seeding and knowing science.
I have to tell you, I don't know much about cloud seeding.
It bothers me what I see over in England, but I, again, haven't taken the time to really look into it.
So explain what cloud seeding does and how you know you didn't have anything to do with that.
Yeah, I can also explain to you what cloud seeding does and what cloud seeding is not, right?
Because you're referencing something from England that we can talk about in a second.
So cloud seeding is a technology developed in the United States in the 1940s to increase water supply for farms, for ecosystem conservation, for reservoirs, for residences, and also our industries.
It relies on identifying liquid in clouds and then releasing particulate.
specifically silver iodide into those clouds that the water freezes onto into big snowflakes and then become heavy enough to fall as rain.
Cloud seeding has been going on in the United States for decades.
It, again, is paid for by farmers and utilities and government entities that want more water for their constituents.
Hang on just a second.
So
I live up in the high desert in the summer, and I have a farm and a ranch, and we pray for rain every year because it's hard, but we're in the high desert.
It wouldn't work here because we don't have the clouds, right?
So, first of all, I think you should keep praying for rain.
I'm grateful to have gotten saved when I was 20 years old and baptized in Dallas, actually.
I think that like this is all God's world and it's our responsibility to steward it, right?
And insofar as we can help make more water for people and ecosystems here, that's my primary interest.
Just because you're in the high desert doesn't mean that you can't have cloud seeding.
If there aren't clouds, then you can't make it rain more.
But sometimes there are.
And also, the aquifers nearby are recharged from cloudier regions not so far away.
And so you can actually benefit from programs nearby as well.
Now, to clarify, cloud seeding, the best operations we've ever seen from either Rainmaker's own work or the National Center for Atmospheric Research or other institutions can produce tens of millions of gallons of precipitation distributed over hundreds of square miles over the course of about an hour or two.
The remnants of Tropical Storm Berry that blew in and caused the flooding, that storm dumps trillions of gallons.
It's about a million times less than what the biggest and best cloud seeding operations can do right now.
Now that said as well, when you referenced England, right,
cloud seeding is not solar radiation modification, nor is it chemtrails, right?
Solar radiation modification is a real technology that people are investigating and developing and increasingly deploying to release reflective particles into the upper atmosphere to cool down the planet, to dim the sun and cool the planet down.
Cloud seeding, although it is also in the atmosphere, I think that it's something that deserves a ton of scrutiny.
Totally agree.
Yeah, I think so too.
Yeah, yeah.
But cloud seeding has nothing to do with that.
Cloud seeding requires existing puffy clouds full of water to be there in order to make them precipitate a little bit more.
Now, if you see a long streak in the sky behind an airplane, that also is not cloud seeding.
Whether that's a natural contrail or a chemtrail, I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that chemtrails are
malevolently being put down by the government or some other nefarious party.
But regardless of which it is, a chemtrail or contrail, it has nothing to do with cloud seeding either.
Because producing clouds is not what cloud seeding does.
Cloud seeding relies on existing clouds to make them rain more.
And those long streaks in the sky, those are mostly ice.
There's not enough water in them to seed in the first place.
And they're also like 20,000 feet higher in the atmosphere than where all of our cloud seeding operations take place.
Okay, so you went out what day?
Thursday?
and cloud-seeded in Texas?
July 2nd, we flew about a 20-minute flight where we seated two clouds, two small clouds, with about 70 grams worth of silver iodide.
That's about 10 Skittles worth of material.
And those clouds dissipated about two hours after the event.
Any rain?
Yeah.
Okay.
And they dissipated, and they don't remain up in the atmosphere, right?
The clouds.
The Skittles of material, they could not have stayed suspended in the atmosphere
by the time that the flooding started happening.
Okay.
And then the flood, that was a storm that rolls in and was not part of the system that you seeded, correct?
Correct.
And also, it's worth noting that a lot of people have said, well, this shouldn't go on without any oversight.
And I totally agree and I think that there should be even more regulatory scrutiny and oversight and reporting requirements so that these operations are totally transparent but there actually are regulations in Texas through the
Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation that have suspension criteria and suspension criteria are these meteorological conditions, these weather conditions, these issuances and notifications from the National Weather Service that say, hey, if there is a flash flood warning, if the soil is already too saturated, if cloud seeding would cause any flooding, you have to suspend operations.
And not only did we suspend operations in adherence with the regulations from the state of Texas, but we actually, because our meteorologists were very proactive, suspended operations a day in advance of any warnings that would have regulatorily mandated us to.
Because we at Rainmaker earnestly believe that like this is God's kingdom to steward, and it is our job to do no harm and do as much good as we can.
And so if we can bias towards being cautious,
not so cautious that we ban this technology and prevent farmers from having water from it, but if we can be cautious in our operations such that we mitigate any potential for any damage, which we did and do,
I'm all for that.
That's what everybody's opinion is at my company.
So I know China is doing cloud seeding up in the mountains to get much more snow up in the mountains so then they have the water, the runoff, et cetera, et cetera.
Are they ahead of us?
Is this what we're we're doing?
Is it the same thing?
So China,
just for context, the United States a year ago spent $2.4 million on cloud feeding research, right, to investigate how to produce more water for American farms, to save the Colorado River, to refill our aquifers, right?
$2.4 million total, and that was a one-off.
China has an annual budget of $1.4 billion
for cloud seeding and weather modification.
They have 35,000 employees in their weather modification office.
They have two universities that offer bachelor's degrees in weather engineering, not meteorology, not atmospheric science, but specifically how to engineer the weather.
And if the United States bans this technology wholesale, if we don't regulate it and monitor where it's going on so that we have a transparent account of the activities, not only will we be behind China, but we won't have regulatory statutes or the capability to monitor who is modifying the weather in the United States and otherwise.
Okay, so tell me the difference between weather modification, which sounds scary, and cloud seeding.
Totally, totally.
I think the bigger distinction to make is between weather modification, which cloud seeding is a kind of, and geoengineering, right?
So cloud seeding is a way to make more water.
You are modifying the weather by making it rain or snow a little bit more.
Geoengineering is a global climatic intervention designed to either cool the planet down or create reflective high-altitude clouds.
And that has, again, nothing to do with cloud seeding, which is a form of weather modification.
And to your point about it sounding scary, right, I could try to do some sort of slimy PR thing and say like, oh, cloud seeding is not weather modification.
But fact of the matter is like making it precipitate a little bit more is modifying the weather.
And I think that I would rather be totally transparent about that and also say like it's something that we should regulate and it's something that we should be cautious about, and we should approach it with a mindset of stewardship.
Um, but still, if we were to ban it wholesale, not only would we deprive Americans of having access to more water from it, but also we'd be liable to other countries continuing to do it without
us.
So, you remember the big hurricane that happened, uh, and we were hit by two: one came and hit Florida, and then the other one came barreling in to North Carolina up from Florida.
And people said, Oh, that was weather modification.
They cloud seeded that and they modified that and they even steered that.
I never believed any of that stuff.
But can it be done?
Can that be done?
No.
No, it at this point in time cannot be done.
The modification of a hurricane such that it would either increase or reduce the winds, increase or reduce the damage done by it,
that is not something that is doable.
Now, that being said, it's worth talking about something called Project Storm Fury, where in the last century, the United States Weather Bureau and Air Force conducted flights over the Atlantic to try to seed hurricanes to mitigate the damage that they would do by the time they broke against the eastern seaboard.
And we stopped that program because we didn't have what's called attribution, right?
We didn't have the right radar.
We didn't have any good satellites to measure what the effect from the seeding was.
The reason why cloud seeding is coming back into the discourse now, why it's a a viable technology that people are paying for, is because we can measure what the results of our operations are.
And I would say that although Milton and Helene, I've seen no evidence of having been modified, and I'm totally open-minded about that.
And if anybody does have it, I would happily scrutinize it and talk about it.
But despite not believing those to be modified, it is worth thinking about the fact that, you know, like at the beginning of time in Genesis 1, 26 through 28, one of the first commandments we were given before the fall, while we were still in the garden, right, before sin, God told us to take dominion over and steward the earth, the seas, the skies, and everything therein.
And so should we now be concerned about making more water for our farms?
Absolutely.
Should we at least consider a potential world with extreme caution?
And again, a mindset of like prayerful stewardship, the notion that we could mitigate severe weather in the future, I think that it would be abdicating our responsibility to try to tend to the world that God gave us if we didn't at least think about it.
I am not advocating we do that now or anytime soon or without severe scrutiny from the federal government and transparency for everybody.
But
it's something that may at some point in the future be able to benefit folks.
Yeah, I mean, I don't mind looking into technology.
I just wish we would slow down sometimes.
You know, with what's happening with AI, we've seen the damage that social media did.
Now we're going into AI, and it's coming at us faster, and we have no idea what it's going to do.
You know, when you're throwing stuff up, you know, whether it's chemtrails or whatever, I don't know enough about it, but I sure would like to be in part of the discussion on some of these things.
I'd like to have our government say, hey, what do you think?
Are we going to do this or not?
And leave it up to the people.
We're talking about doing some things to the planet that
might be good, but also could be horrible.
And, you know, I just, the arrogance on some of this stuff really bothers me.
Augustus, thank you so much for having a frank conversation with us.
I pray for you and your family and all the coworkers at Raymaker who
I know feel because, you know, it's obvious, you feel for the families, et cetera, et cetera.
But now to be blamed for it is,
it's got to be hard.
It's got to be hard.
Thank you, Augustus.
Thank you, Glenn.
You bet.
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Do you know much about cloud seating and stuff?
No, that was interesting to hear.
Yeah, honestly.
And I thought he was really credible.
Yeah, I mean, and I'm sure if you believe this was the cause, you think he's the worst person in the world and don't believe anything he said and whatever.
But I do think I am a big believer in the idea that
we can help make the world a little better for people.
I'm very much,
as I drink a bunch of aspartame, I can note that I'm not the biggest naturalist in the world.
No, I don't have anyone to notice this.
But I do think a lot of of times we lose sight as to like all the improvements that have been made and that we all enjoy on a day-to-day basis and that are miracles.
I mean, think of air conditioning for water
who are in this country.
I know.
And we've done a lot of great things, but we're just getting to the point to where we, yeah, we should be really careful.
Jason.
You know, I'm maybe I'm old school, but
throwing up chemicals like silver iodide into clouds, you know, and I think the problem with a lot of these technologies is they haven't, there's no long-term long-term effects that we even have We don't even have the research so like long-term What is been doing as he said we've been doing that for what do you say 50 since the 40s since the 1940s We've been doing this forever which which okay so I mean you can throw that number out there But like when you look at it in a much larger perspective like what does this do over crops over a hundred years?
We don't know you know like we don't know how that affects the food supply like what that actually does to the tropics
380 years that we would know.
I mean even that even that even that would be better.
You know what I mean?
It's like there's no
long-term studies on these things.
There's just no,
but there's no long-term studies on a lot of stuff.
There's no anything new has no long-term study, right?
That's always a thing.
And I get it.
I mean,
I am with you.
I don't like doing big things to the planet.
However,
we've been doing this since the 1940s.
So, I mean, I think we have enough.
80 years is a long-term study.
Yeah, that's a long-term study, as long as we can make a long-term study.
For global.
No.
Not in my opinion.
Yeah, because most of the rain misses the plants and the ground.
No.
No, he's saying that it would change the chemicals of the plants or the right?
Topsoil, everything.
Well, you know, I actually was doing some research on this, and I found that some of this leads to multiple chemicals falling into the food supply.
Hydrogen,
oxygen.
In fact,
parts hydrogen, more part oxygen falls from the sky.
It's through probabilities
falling from the sky.
I will tell you that I am concerned what we put into our soil.
I'm concerned what we put on our food as we're growing it.
I'm very concerned about that.
I just don't think that this, and I could be wrong, I know nothing about it, but I'm willing to explore more.
We should always be careful.
We should be very careful.
And, you know, especially with the future stuff that we're doing, maybe we should slow down a little bit.
Just a little bit.
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Today, we have started a new no-shoes policy with the Department of the Transportation Security Administration.
The TSA will no longer require travelers to remove their shoes when they go through our security checkpoints.
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Thank you.
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Really, is there a witch in my shoe?
I mean, it's really, we look so primitive compared, I think, to the rest of the world.
They're not concerned about any of these things.
And quite honestly, you know, flying out of an airport in the United States recently, there was a backup and everybody, and this is what the TSA said.
Everybody were backed up, so you don't have to take off your belt or your shoes, and you can leave your laptops in your briefcase, just put it on the belt and go through the scanner.
And you're like, really?
So today,
terrorism doesn't count?
Or is it that this is just a bunch of bullcrap anyway?
I mean, I want to walk through the detector.
I want security there, but it's ridiculous.
It is.
It is the worst part of travel.
And there's bad, remember, you then get onto a little little airplane in a tube and eat garbage
and breathe the air of the guy who's in the back going,
I mean, it gets, it does get worse, but to say that the TSA is the worst part of air travel tells you something.
That's why I don't understand why people just don't fly privately.
You know, if you just get your own plane, you make the rules.
You don't have to deal with all of that.
That's all you have to do.
Gosh, it's like learning to think.
Wake up, America.
Right.
Get a chauffeur guy what's wrong with you um it is really it's interesting that i mean because i heard an analyst talking about this and saying you know the you know richard reed gets on uh and uh he goes through the line uh the line at the airport and he's the the the people at the airport noticed he's acting suspicious right and they check him but they don't check inside his shoes right so he gets on the plane he um he's one of the reasons that he's sweating so profusely it makes the wick unusable.
And this is why he doesn't blow up a plane over the Atlantic, right?
I mean, it's pretty, actually, an incredibly amazing miracle that that did happen.
Divine Providence.
So they're like, holy crap, we have a real hole in our security.
And that's why they implement that rule.
So here's, you do what the Israelis do.
You pull them out.
I don't talk about that either.
I don't want that either.
It is the best.
It's the best security in the world.
Tell the story of your experience.
And you tell me, you want to go through this on your next flight to
everything they did
was logical.
It might be logical.
It took you two hours to get through the process.
I almost missed it, but it was logical.
That doesn't make us.
Here's what I'm saying.
Here's what happened.
Tell me this wasn't logical.
Okay.
I'm going to Israel right after 9-11.
Okay.
And never been to Israel.
It's a last-minute thing.
It was something my agent put together for me, and he was like, you want to go to Israel?
I'm like, I'd love to go to Israel.
He's like, Okay, I'll put it together for you and I'll tell you when it's done.
I'm in the middle of traveling all over the country.
I'm doing all kinds of stuff, and you don't want to go because you're a wuss.
100%.
So I fly into New York.
I don't even remember where I was flying in from, but I fly into New York.
Somebody else has purchased my ticket, okay?
And it was my agent.
So I have no, you know, it was George Hillsig, is he related to you?
No, he's your agent?
Yeah.
And he bought you your ticket?
Yes.
Where are you staying?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Wait a minute.
You're going to Israel and you don't know where you're staying.
No.
They just didn't know you.
If they knew you, I would say that's totally.
That's why it's reasonable.
And then they said, is someone meeting you at the airport?
I said, yes.
Who?
I don't know.
What do you mean you don't know?
Well, I look, I've been traveling.
I don't have any of the information.
I just know, but people will be meeting me there.
I know I'm fine.
And they're like, uh-huh.
And in the meantime, they're in another line and they're talking to Jeffy, okay?
Who was not my producer at the time, but he was my producer for this trip.
And I said,
they said, are you traveling with somebody?
I said, that guy over there.
Who is that?
My producer.
Okay.
And he might have more information?
Yes.
Well, they went over to him and he said, yeah, we know where we're staying, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And you're his producer.
Jeffy says no, because he's technically not my producer, but he's my producer for this trip.
And they're like, he said you were his producer.
I'm not his producer.
Okay.
And you're in charge of what?
I'm in charge of all the technical stuff.
And you're bringing equipment with you.
Yes.
Have you used this equipment before?
You packed it.
No.
You didn't pack it?
No.
Who packed it?
I don't know.
Where did it come from?
Well, it was shipped to us from Los Angeles.
You live in Tampa.
He lives in Philadelphia.
Who do you know in Los Angeles?
I don't know.
The company did it.
They just bought all of this and put all this technical equipment, and you're bringing it onto our airplane, and you know nothing about it.
It's beyond,
has somebody given you something that you don't really know?
It's way beyond that.
And then, so we're going through all of this, and none of it makes any sense whatsoever to them.
Can you plug this equipment in and make it work?
I think so.
Wait, you think so?
Well, I've never used it before.
So they make us go back into this room and they're talking to us and they're going through over and over and over again and
can't get a hold of George Hiltsik because he's in Shabbat.
Okay, he's at Temple.
He's not carrying his phone.
And so I can't get him on the phone.
Can you just get him on the phone?
I can't.
Why?
He doesn't answer his phone.
It's Saturday.
Oh, so he's a Jew.
Well, yes, he is.
Uh-huh.
Well, okay, sure.
And he bought you the ticket.
So all of this stuff's going on.
It took us like two hours to get through, but I think that was perfectly logical.
Then we got onto the plane and they handed me a real steak knife to cut my chicken.
I mean.
They know who's on the plane.
So what they do is they just come by and they're all, they're trained to look for inconsistencies.
And when they find it, they just ask you a bunch of questions and then somebody else comes by and asks you the same bunch of questions like you don't know.
Oh, he asked me over there.
I'm sorry.
He's he's busy right now.
I haven't talked to him.
Just answer the couple of questions.
So why are you going?
What are you doing there?
Look, I understand why Israel, particularly after 9-11, might do something like that.
I understand why they would have...
They never have had a terrorist attack.
They're more marked than anybody else.
LL has never had a terrorist attack on their planes.
Okay, I understand that.
And you know what?
With that type of security, I'm not surprised.
Right.
However, do I want to go through that security every time I fly to Wilmington?
No.
But it's not that way.
I don't know.
It's not that way, though.
You know what?
It's not that way.
I don't ever get asked.
I don't want to be asked any questions when I'm in line at security.
I want to go about my life.
I would rather do that than all of the other stuff that is meaningless.
You can have all the conversations you want with TSA employees.
What I would like to do is go ahead and play.
Yeah, no, not with TSA employees.
But
people who are, look, everyone everyone else around me had this, what are you going to Israel for?
We're going to see family.
Really?
Where do they live?
They live here.
Great.
Have a good time.
That's what everybody else is.
They were looking for things that
seem weird, or you're sweating profusely.
Then they drill down.
I would also argue after December of 2001 that probably for some time, the shoe thing was probably a good approach.
I mean, frankly, like when you didn't have a way that you were checking it, putting them through the little
the little belt for, I don't know, six months?
What's the window that you would need to put in the technology that?
We've just dropped this.
What have we done to make sure that somebody doesn't go, oh, well, now they dropped this, I'm going to put shoe bombs in my shoes?
I mean, honestly.
Because they have technology that detects it and have for a long time.
Okay, so they, yeah, okay, so that is done.
That's, that's what, that's certainly what Christy Noam's argument is.
Okay, good, and I'm all right with it.
Yeah, I think, like, I think that's, I think the problem, the biggest problem here is they've had this technology for a long time.
The whole thing is to train us.
The whole thing is to train us.
I really believe that.
Train us to be a bad person.
It's a complete person who took it off, and then a plane blows up because of a shoe bomb.
So they all, you know, you get into this situation where everything just stays in place.
And, you know, the tax that was used to pay for the building 25 years ago is still in place.
And have you seen
government?
I'm more afraid of the people that I'm flying with than terrorists showing up.
Have you seen the videos of the people who just go insane on the plane?
A lot of that, yeah.
It's a lot of that.
You can't have a society if it keeps breaking down like that.
I think a few questions like, have you taken your medication today?
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you, do you, do you, do you regularly see things that aren't there?
Do you smell smoke?
Maybe think of implementing as having people interact with other human beings occasionally.
Like,
I don't want my friendships to come from the TSA line.
I'd like people to maybe, you know, not completely avoid all humanity and then get onto a gleaming metal tube that goes through the sky at 40,000 a millisecond.
Are you telling me that you don't want to avoid contact with almost all humankind?
Oh, I want to, but I don't think it's the healthy approach.
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back.
We're just sitting here talking about how we really feel about, you know, air travel and the TSA and everything else.
I actually don't want, I don't want questions, but I don't want the shoes and I don't want the TSA.
I don't want any of it.
I don't want any of it.
I just want to get through as fast as possible.
Yeah, I know.
But I mean, if you're going to do it, I just don't want to talk to somebody who's making $16 an hour.
You know what I mean?
Get a professional in here.
Oh, yeah.
You know, just don't, I don't want somebody who has also worked at McDonald's as their last job.
And, you know, because I, and, and, you know, look, look, I don't want to take down the TSA because there's a lot of really good people.
I see a lot of really good people.
The ones that stick in your minds are the ones that are really bad.
I was just in an airport and, you know, gave them my ticket and
my driver's license.
And they said, okay, stand here.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no pictures.
And you can say that, and it's no big deal.
That's what you're talking about when you give them your license.
Yeah, they take your picture.
Okay.
And
you don't have to have it done.
Right.
And I'm smart enough to know they have my picture.
They know I'm traveling.
It's, you know, they got it.
And it's just a principal thing, no pictures.
And the guy looks at my wife.
And he rolls his eyes and he goes, these people, like, we don't have cameras everywhere tracking their every move.
And I looked at him and I said,
you know, I'm still standing right here, right?
I mean, he said it to my wife.
That's bizarre.
It was bizarre.
Well, to be fair to him, he couldn't have possibly believed that she was married to you.
Exactly right.
True.
I give you that.
But I mean, you know, again, you can go, I have very few issues at the airport.
I go through.
I very rarely have a bad experience.
I don't give, I don't.
Well, there's a reason for that.
Yeah, you know what?
You know what?
I'm on my flights every time.
No, I know, I know.
I can sit here.
I'm on my flight every time.
I can just sit here and make a big stick.
Yeah, I can sit here and be very, very annoyed with my life where I can get through the line and get...
Again, I don't like the policies.
You know, like I joined TSA Pre a long time ago.
Give that Iris scan.
Exactly.
And I get to, now I skip all those lines and I never deal with any of them.
Until everybody's on that, and then your line's going to be just as long.
No, actually, they think that it's going to, this shoe thing is a big thing for TSA Pre if you happen to be one of the people who goes through that line because it's going to encourage people less frequently to go through the process to get it.
So it should improve the lines.
That's what they think is going to happen.
Right.
Because a lot of people were getting TSA Pre just so they didn't have to take their shoes off.
Oh, I hate it.
It is really.
I hate it.
And look, I think
I'm joking about
not caring about this stuff at some level.
It's like, I do care about security.
I do want there to be some level of security.
And I do,
we have to defend at some level, you know, our privacy.
Our skies.
In our skies.
But I do think we have a problem with letting crazy people, not bombers, not terrorists, just crazy people.
Yeah, I think that's it.
You just have people who are going insane.
And then you get free drinks.
And it's right.
And it's not necessarily that they're crazy.
It's just that everybody's privileged now.
You don't know who I am.
You don't know.
I have a right.
I do this.
They're crazy.
There's that.
Nobody thinks all these collectivists,
they're not collectivists.
They just, they're in a collectivist movement, but they only think of themselves.
And so, when you're actually in it, when we're in the airplane, we're kind of all in it together.
You know, I don't know.
You know, Mal, maybe people who fly first class all the time think differently, but I think that just because there's a curtain between first and second class,
I think we're still on the same plane, and that little curtain doesn't mean anything.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, uh, we're all on the same plane.
I don't know why,
why can't we just look?
We all are going to a destination.
We're all, none of us want to be here.
That's what I want the captain to say.
Ladies and gentlemen, as the captain, I just want you to know, none of us, including really me and the co-pilot, we don't want to be here today.
We're here because they're paying us to be here.
You're here because you have to go someplace.
You're probably miserable, gone through hell.
You've been worried about this thing.
And you know what?
We could sit on the tarmac now for another four hours waiting for this system to move on.
So none of us are happy.
Let's just get that out on the table right now.
We'll get you there as quickly as we can.
Hey, why don't we just all just kind of mind our own business?
If you don't like the person next to you, that's fine.
Don't talk to them.
Don't talk to them.
Don't look at them.
Don't do anything.
Just let's get to our destination.
Yeah.
That's for flying, Delta.
And that's how I feel about the security line, too.
It's like there is some level of inconvenience you just need to push through.
Yeah, I don't know.
And I don't know.
And I do mind a scene.
You have a right to say, and it's no big deal.
They just say, okay.
Yeah.
That's it.
Yeah,
it's not like I'm not taking off my shoes going, people rise up, right?
We can't take off our shoes.
You know, some people do that, though.
I know, and those are the people that shouldn't be allowed in the plane because the pilot doesn't even want to be there, but he just won't say that.
That's the key.
Yeah.
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