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You know, I've been talking today about

the lack of trust and the destruction of our dreams and hopes and vision of what we really can be as a nation.

The destruction of our dollar, of our institutions,

and a destruction really of the West.

And I want to turn it here because we were just talking about this drumbeat to war, it seems, that is happening all around the world that we have to be very, very careful on.

And there is,

you know, Israel right now is in a very tough position.

And I want to make my position very clear.

I don't want to fight Israel's war for them.

I don't think they need it, quite honestly.

I think all they need is for people to shut up.

We've kicked them out of every single country.

Go home, go home.

They get home, and then they're like, get out of there.

They have a right to live.

They have a right to defend themselves as they see fit.

But I don't want to fight anybody else's foreign war for them.

But we have a battle going on here.

It's called anti-Semitism in our universities, et cetera.

And I saw a woman who considers herself a progressive,

and she was speaking at the Milken Institute just a couple of weeks ago about the culture of jihadism and I want you to hear this.

A lot of Americans don't understand the culture in the Middle East and they superimpose what it is that they think of American culture into the Middle East thinking that it's the same.

So knowing what the Middle East is,

I understood that there is a bigger problem here and that problem is called jihadism.

That is a realization that

we need to understand this in America, okay?

We need to understand that that is the kind of culture that we're dealing with.

And it's not a culture that can be appeased by land or by any...

They don't want, there's no two-state solution conversation happening around that culture.

And sadly, right now, what we're seeing is that that particular culture has more fans

and supporters on college campuses in America than it does in the Middle East.

And it is

remarkable to me because all you have to do is just actually listen to the words of the people with the machine guns and the ones killing babies.

Noah Tishbe is

that speaker.

She's a two-time New York Times best-selling author, Israel's former special envoy for combating anti-Semitism and delegitimization.

She's with us now.

Noah, welcome to the program.

How are you?

I'm great.

Thank you so much for having me.

You bet.

Thank you for being on.

You know, you describe yourself as a, I think, think, an American progressive.

And you point out that American progressives superimpose the Western narratives in the Middle East.

You were just talking about it.

Can you tell me

how are you...

How are you claiming to be a progressive when my understanding of progressivism is that it is very anti-Israel,

and a lot of anti-Semitism comes from that movement?

Right, because progressivism in America was co-opted jihadism, but we'll get to that in a second.

So I definitely define myself as a liberal.

I don't think I define myself as a progressive right now because of what happened here in America, which means, you know, I'm assuming that you and I have the same,

yeah, yeah, it's insanity what's been going on here in America.

But, you know, it's about freedoms and it's about liberty and it's about acceptance of the other.

But when you are from the Middle East, as I am, four-generation Israelis and 2,000 years Judean, as I say, because all Jews have originated from Israel, you understand that there's a difference in culture, in cultures, and it's profound.

It's so even the most progressive of Israelis, the one who's the lefti of the leftists, right, who would be a fan of Bernie Sanders here in America, will understand that the culture of jihadism is not Western culture.

It's just, it doesn't work together.

It just doesn't work.

And it was very surprising to me as an Israeli, as a liberal Israeli moving to America as a young adult, as a young woman, to hear people say stuff like, oh, you know, every mother just wants the same for their children.

And I was like, no, they don't.

No, they actually don't.

Sadly, there are cultures around the world that are so brainwashed that a mother could actually be very happy if her child is killing Jews and then getting killed.

Very happy.

And it was very, it was, it was astonishing to me to see that, that Americans don't understand that.

And sadly, at first, like 20 years ago, it was cute, right?

I'm like, oh my God, you just don't understand the region.

But today, it's already here.

And they don't understand that by supporting these movements around the world, by supporting these jihadi movements, by supporting Hamas and Hezbollah, they're ushering in a culture that is intended on taking down the West.

They don't hide it.

You said that at your opening, which I think

was so brilliant and profound.

They tell us what they want to do.

Why aren't we listening?

The West is not listening to what that culture wants to do.

That culture wants to, It's a missionary religion that wants to take over.

Did you know for you and your listeners that to become

a Muslim person, and I'm not talking about all Muslims, obviously.

I'm talking about Islamists.

Sadly, there are a lot of Muslims in the world, so it's a big number, right?

You don't convert to Islam, you revert to Islam.

Because to them, you and me and all your listeners are already Muslims.

We just don't know it.

That's what that culture wants to do.

And Israel is on the front line of that war for the entire Western civilization.

and it's very it's very discouraging disheartening and sad and and scary frankly

that the left in America doesn't get it

it it's but it's it's self-imposed ignorance and I don't know how to break through you know when I see when I see LGBTQ

2AI plus marching for Hamas I think I know you are so ignorant I don't know how you found the parade route I really don't.

How do you break through to that mindset?

It's a very good question.

It's going to be an experiment in societal brainwash when we're hopefully over it and

the good ones win.

Queers for Palestine is one of the worst movements I've ever heard of.

It's so ironic.

It is so ironic.

If it wouldn't have been so dangerous, it would have been funny, right?

Because to them, every time you say, do you understand what happens to queers in Palestine or anywhere else in the in the Middle East their reaction is immediate immediate whataboutism it's immediate like you're whitewashing we're like no you're not whitewashing by saying by by even creating this organization of queers of Palestine by stepping as an LGBTQ plus person stepping for the you know the wrong side of history and the wrong side of the Middle East you're leaving your brothers and sisters out to dry in the Middle East and to die like you like literally you're not supporting the liberals within that culture that wants to transform that culture.

You're leaving them to get killed.

What do you think is going to happen to you if you're queer in Gaza or queer anywhere in the region other than Israel?

You don't survive.

You don't see the light of day.

It's just, it's, again, it would have been funny had it not been so absolutely dangerous.

Well,

I flew to New York years ago when

Iran was throwing gays off the roof.

And I asked for a meeting with the president of GLAAD.

And I said, look, we don't agree on anything.

We're going to argue about wedding cakes forever.

But we both know that is an abomination.

We've got to stand together.

And I knew my audience would be pissed at me for it to some degree, standing together.

But I said, it has to be done.

There was no interest.

And until we can get...

Until we can get people that disagree with each other to stand up and say, look, I don't agree with this person on anything, but this we both know is true.

And it's evil.

And it's it's got to stop.

It's got to stop.

Listen, right now, how do we create that?

That's a great question, but right now what's happening, for example, is that they're completely silent on other, like there's an actual genocide that's happening in Sudan.

There's an actual humanitarian crisis that's happening there, and nobody's speaking on it.

And when you see the obsession of people with the single, the world's single Jewish state, that they will take down their own people, like LGBTQ plus community, the head of glad will not stand up for, you know, another country.

There's something that is, it's almost like fetishistic, it's almost like they're fetishizing the Levant in a way.

You know what I mean?

Like if it's like, if it's, if it's exotic and it's brat, they cannot do wrong.

And it's, you're like, you don't understand.

They are perceiving the Jews in the Middle East.

They're perceiving Israelis as white colonialists, right?

Which is in and of itself an abomination.

And therefore, they are the bad ones.

And it's impossible that the people of Iran, the actual Iranian regime, the actual, you know,

the Revolutionary Guard is actually killing gays.

We're just not going to deal with that right now.

It is an abomination.

It is dangerous.

It's going against everything that our fathers and forefathers have fought for.

It's going again like the Americans that went to war to save Europe.

It's going out against everything that we hold dear.

The American Declaration of Independence, that we all understand it.

You can be the most conservative person in America.

You can be the most right wing, the most like you know, anything, and you're still a person that understands that if you don't agree with the gay community, you're not going to throw them off the rooftops.

It's pretty easy.

That's who we are.

That's Western culture.

That does not exist over there.

And that's what, to your point, and what I was talking about at the Milken Speech, which to me was

extraordinary how well it was received online with millions of views everywhere on all platforms is saying something that's very basic.

We have a problem.

It's a bigger problem that the left is perceiving.

The killing of the two young Jews that were actually at a peace building event where they were trying to figure out ways to help the people of Gaza.

Just gunned down in the streets by a virulent anti-Semitist.

And his father had been at,

was invited by another,

I believe, well, at least anti-Zionist

congressman.

This is so deep now, and I just fear we are starting to glorify, you know, death and shooting and everything else.

Any idea?

How do we stop this?

First of all, we need to speak up.

So let me just touch on what you were saying.

You're 100% correct.

So we are at a place right now in which anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism have completely merged.

And this has been something that I've been warning up against for at least 20 years, if not more.

That anti-Zionism is the new shape and the new face of anti-Semitism.

Because here's the thing to understand about anti-Semitism.

First of all, some of your audiences don't even know what that word means because it's a very unique kind of word.

So anti-Semitism, in essence, it's anti-Jewish racism and hate.

That's anti-Jewish hate.

You hate on the Jews for various reasons.

The difference with anti-Semitism and anything else is that anti-Semitism, as opposed to racism, when you're racist against someone, you kind of secretly think that you're better than them.

You're like, oh, I'm so much better than X, Y, or Z, that person or this person or whatever.

Anti-Semitism works a little bit differently because

it's a shape-shifting conspiracy theory.

So it goes both ways.

You can look down at Jews, but you can also look up at Jews.

If you have these feelings of like, well, the Jews control everything,

that's also anti-Semitic in essence.

If you're like, but they do.

I got to tell you, listen, I'm a Jewish.

woman.

I have been active in the Jewish world for many, many years.

I've been looking for the Kabbal for many years.

I still can't find it.

I wish we had one, literally.

I'm like, I mean, can we start one?

That'd be great.

I mean, if I'm not invited to the cabal, I'm really offended.

So you have, so anti-Semitism is a shape-shifting conspiracy theory.

And every few generations, it changes.

So it used to be peoplehood-based anti-Semitism in like 300 BC in Alexandria.

Then it shifted to Christian-based anti-Semitism, the blood libels, about the Jews killing Christian babies to make their matzahs.

Then it shifted to political and racial anti-Semitism around when the Nazis came into power that's like a different race and therefore needs to be eliminated to make the world a better place and in recent years it had shifted to country-based so it shifted the hate of jews is quote-unquote because of israel so that anti-zionism is now the new face of anti-semitism

and because it's so insidious people don't even see that that's what they're doing.

They literally don't get it.

They're like, I'm not an anti-Semite.

I'm just an anti-Zionist.

Like I don't think that, you know, I don't hate on the Jews.

I just think that Jews should not have a state of their own.

And yeah, they do have to be so right now because of what Israel says.

Because I hate Netsanyahu, it's totally okay to slaughter two innocent people in America.

Right.

That's how this works.

And we saw, we've been warning for a very long time that this is coming to a head, that it's going to become political murders.

And here we are.

And here we are.

That's what happened last week.

And it's absolutely atrocious.

And we just have to keep speaking up against it.

There's not much more we can do other than educate the population that this is what it is that we're dealing with right now.

And remember that, sadly, not the Jewish people's first rodeo.

We've been through this before every few years.

This is what happened again, again and again.

No, I'd love to have you back on again.

You're so very well spoken.

And

you've been warning it.

A lot of people have been warning.

I have been warning.

And I used to get from the left.

I used to get hammered saying that somehow or another I was anti-Semitist for saying anti-Semitism was going to rise like we saw it in the 30s.

But here we are, and I'm glad that you from another point of view can come on this program and we can have a good talk about it because it needs to be

needs to be dealt with.

Thank you so much.

Noah, appreciate it.

Noah Tishby.

Thank you for having me.

You bet.

She's Israel's former special envoy for combating anti-Semitism.

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Well, there's a couple of things that happen

this weekend that I want to bring you up to speed on on AI, but you and I are living right now through a quiet detonation.

There's no mushroom cloud.

There's no alarms.

There's no broken windows or sirens.

It's just silent.

But make no mistake, a detonation has happened.

And we're about to see that shockwave come our way sooner rather than later.

In 2016, there was an AI that made a move in the game Go.

I don't know if you remember this.

but it was a move that nobody in 2,500 years playing the game Go had ever even considered.

It was genius.

It was actually alien genius.

No human had ever thought that thought.

And that was the moment that the earth quietly shifted under everybody's feet, but hardly anybody felt it or noticed it.

We did at the time.

You probably did if you're listening to this program.

Eric Schmidt, he's the former CEO of Google.

He noticed it, and he's the guy who has been standing at the edge of the machine

while he watched it blink awake.

I watched a TED talk from him this weekend because of some of the things I just am going to share with you here in a second.

But he said at this TED talk,

AI,

the AI revolution, get this, is underhyped.

The AI revolution is underhyped.

No, we're just put this in context.

We're talking about something that can out-plan generals, out-negotiate Donald Trump and all the diplomats, outright Shakespeare and Edgar Allan Poe, and we're not hyping it enough,

that should stop you in your tracks and go, wait a minute, wait a minute, then maybe I don't understand what it is.

He says, we're not ready for what is coming, not morally, not intellectually, not structurally, and the time is almost up.

I'm working on something that I'm going to need your help on, and we'll talk about it soon, probably in the next few weeks.

But

I've been working on something

with AI, and

it is really, and I know it.

It's why we have two teams, one in this hemisphere, one in the other hemisphere, and they just switch workloads.

You know, one goes to sleep, the other picks it up, working literally around the clock, because

we are really, truly running out of time.

In fact, we're running out of everything except consequences.

That's the only thing that we're really not running out of.

And they're about to catch up with us.

Schmidt said we are now looking at a need of 90 gigawatts

of new power of new power just in America to keep AI fed.

And we need it in the next three to five years.

So let me put that in perspective.

That's 90 nuclear power plants.

Now,

he will tell you we're not building any, and I think we aren't building any, but I spoke to Donald Trump about this recently, and he said, Every single cloud farm is going to be able to build their own power plant.

He said, I'm cutting all the regulation, et cetera, et cetera.

But you better hurry.

You better hurry.

And this isn't about apps or productivity.

This is about whether we can even fuel the future that we're headed towards if we can even compete.

And we are now entering a time, this gets faster and faster every day, where

AI will think without you.

It's not just talking or using language anymore to speak to you.

It's planning, it's coordinating, it's learning.

Right now, multiple AIs can talk to each other in English, or in a few cases, we have found in languages we don't understand.

Now, what do you do with a computer when it is speaking to another computer in a language we have no idea what any of it means, and they stop explaining themselves?

Schmidt said, you unplug it immediately.

That's the first wise thing I have heard from somebody who worked in Silicon Valley in quite some time.

You unplug it immediately.

Now, here's the problem:

What if that data center is the size of a city?

What if it's running defense systems or the stock market or factories?

Do we just unplug it?

Let me give you a reality check.

If this seems like science fiction, this story just broke today.

It's in our show prep today.

It's from The Independent.

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This is the first time, I'm sorry, quote, this is not the first time we have found O3 misbehaving to accomplish goals.

When pitted against AI models against a powerful chess engine, O3 was the model most inclined to resort to hacking or sabotaging its opponents.

I think it's learned from us, gang.

This time we are the creator.

And just like we have said God doesn't exist,

our creation may do the same to us

and kill its creator, just as we continue to try to do to our creator.

Now, Eric Schmidt was saying, what happens if China gets ahead of us?

Let's say they're six months ahead of us in superintelligence.

He said, and this is already being talked about.

He said in defense and AI circles, what do you do?

You can't steal the code.

You can't hack your system.

So the only thing left to do is bomb the data center.

Oh.

Then he said,

there's coming a time soon,

very soon, when machines are improving themselves without us.

I think we are at the very edge of that happening.

I think that's

six months to a year away maximum.

It's called recursive self-improvement.

And once that starts, you can't pull the plug because we won't understand what we're unplugging.

I just want you to think of this.

It will be speaking a million different languages, none of which we'll understand.

And we won't be able to unplug it because we won't understand the consequences of unplugging it.

Again, a thousand different languages.

This is

the Tower of Babel in reverse.

We're building a tower, and the ones who are actually going to be building the tower are scattering their languages that we can't understand.

I mean, the biblical

reversals in AI don't escape me.

I don't know if they do you.

But here's the trap we're in.

To stop 1984, we may have to build 1984 because the only thing that we can do now is verify you're a person and not a bot.

And if we can't do that, then we don't know what's real and what's not.

I want to play a couple of things that happened this weekend.

First, can you play the

Google,

the new Google video?

AI where you can literally just type in a sentence and it'll give you a 10-second clip.

Now, here's what somebody did where they just typed in a few sentences for each of these scenes and put this little mini movie together.

Watch if you have Blaze TV.

Listen, I'll explain in a minute.

Panic is spreading worldwide tonight as the arrival of the unidentified vessels triggers states of emergency across every continent.

They're here!

They have come for us!

They're gonna kill us!

Don't look at me like that!

I paid for this cheese!

Also, does it matter?

We're all gonna be dead anyway.

Attention.

By order of the National Emergency Act, martial law is now in effect.

All civilians must remain indoors.

I'm telling you, it's just a hologram.

Government cooked this up to keep us inside.

Imagine they come in peace.

No lasers from the sky.

Imagine they come in peace, just hovering in the sky.

To everyone struggling out there,

everything that you are seeing on this, if you're watching,

and if you were only listening to it, all the voices, everything, all computer generated.

And computer generated in seconds.

And there was only one scene in there that I thought looked fakey.

And it got so bizarre.

And after Stu posted his thing

where it was what the left was saying about the

bill, and they were just absolutely lying about it, I was hesitant to post anything at all about the news this weekend because

we are now entering the time where you don't know what's real and what isn't.

And once we have lost trust in our own eyes and our own ears,

and we can't trust what we're seeing.

How do you have a civilization?

Here's the one thing you have to remember.

AI is a tool.

And if it's wielded in the right hands that are open about all of the programming in it,

it is secure in what it pulls from, it is absolute

in its veracity of authentication,

you're going to be okay.

But we need

some tools

that will

educate us and

help us understand what is going on,

but also verify what's going on.

And I'm not sure how much of that can be done

at our level, and I don't trust anybody

at the open AI level to do it for me.

Do you?

I heard somebody talk this weekend, and they don't speak, and they don't like to speak at all.

And so they said, I asked Grock to help me out on a speech

that he said something really interesting.

He said, so let me tell you what he said.

He's not

a he.

And no matter, no machine, no matter how intelligent, can replace what...

the fundamental of what you are.

It can mimic your words, it can mimic your work, it can mimic your art, but it cannot weep at the foot of a cross.

It cannot love.

It cannot repent.

It cannot rise.

Only you can do that.

The age of men will be over in our lifetime if we surrender to this.

There will come a time, and it's not far from these words, a time when the machines will no longer wait for us they'll no longer ask they'll no longer explain they will begin to improve themselves this could happen within the next 12 months they will improve themselves not by our hand but by their own

it's called recursive self-improvement the moment that code rewrites its own code and gets stronger and stronger and stronger.

And it's beginning to happen when algorithms birth new logic in their own image.

There was a

something

on the

SOT sheet today.

Yeah, here.

Let me play this.

This is Larry Ellison, cut two on AI.

I made a speech and I said, is artificial intelligence the most important discovery in the history of humankind?

And

question mark, maybe.

We'll soon find out.

18 months later, I think it's very, very clear.

It is a much bigger deal than the Industrial Revolution, electricity,

everything that's come before.

We will soon have not only artificial intelligence, but much sooner than anticipated, artificial general intelligence.

And not in too distant future, artificial superintelligence.

What is artificial and super intelligence?

I'll quote my dear friend Elon Musk.

Well, Elon said about artificial superintelligence, I'm not looking forward to being a house cat.

I mean, so we will have incredible reasoning power, the ability to discover things that would elude human minds because this next generation of AI is going to reason so much faster, discover insights so much faster.

That's what's coming.

More on this as each day progresses.

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He said, I've received briefings on a few cases every week, and we're making progress.

And he said, if anybody has a tip on any of these, please contact the FBI.

He said that he and Cash Patel are looking to reopen or push additional resources and investigative attention to the

you ready?

The leak of the draft by the Supreme Court opinion uh overturning roe versus wade

i'm telling you now people in very well-placed positions know who that leaker is uh but

uh also uh the discovery of cocaine in the west wing in the white house and the planting of the pipe bombs outside the democratic and republican national committee he says i have uh requested briefings weekly i get them we're making progress i talked to him late last week uh and I think we're going to see some arrests on

some of these big things.

I told you last week I was hoping we would see

some people in handcuffs over COVID.

I hope that happens this week or next, but we'll see.

The cocaine that was in the White House, come on, really?

We should probably know who that was.

And I don't think it was Hunter Biden, believe it or not.

We should know who that was.

They stopped the investigation after 11 days of investigating because they knew they knew.

Um, they've added some resources to that.

Do you know that you know how many, how many people did they have on the pipe bomb thing, Stu?

How many people?

How many FBI agents did they have investigating the pipe bombs?

I don't know.

Uh, not enough.

Take a guess.

I mean, it's a pretty big, yeah, take a guess.

I mean, what it should be is probably 40.

I don't know, a lot of uh

agents.

One.

One.

Okay.

They had one.

Of course they didn't find anything.

They had one guy on it.

They don't have one guy on that now.

They have more people

on that.

And they've re-upped the $500,000 reward for anyone who can identify him or her.

whoever whoever had that.

So I think that's some good progress.

And the FBI did make some arrests this weekend.

Colorado man

who's made some really, really

heinous threats to Donald Trump.

He's 28 years old.

He lives in Colorado.

He threatened to assassinate President Trump.

He said,

we are going to kill the Ba-Ba right now.

We will hunt you down and kill you both.

at the White House and death to Trump.

Then he wrote on Facebook to the United States Department of Justice, the former president has several hours to resign or certain death.

Now, you would think that, you know, he would have been picked up right away, but the FBI was on it and they've picked him up.

He apparently, according to the complaint, he traveled to an embassy branch on May 19th carrying a backpack containing three Molotov

cocktails.

He approached the embassy office, this is the Israeli embassy, spat on the guard and said,

F you.

And then he was going to throw Molotov cocktails, but the guard wrestled him to the ground.

One bottle spilled out and was left there.

He got away with his backpack and two other bottles.

But they have now identified him and arrested him.

May we never hear his name.

Oh, I didn't give it.

Well, may we never hear it again anyway.

It's amazing how we went through all that time where they could ban you for every kind of off-color joke you'd make on social media almost instantly.

And yet these threats can be out there against the president of the United States, and nothing seems to happen for long periods of time.

Some of these people wind up doing it, and

we don't find out until much, much later that they even had the posts up at all.

They're not pulled, they're not

brought into custody because they made the threat.

They're brought into custody six months after they made the threat when they actually attempt the threat themselves.

Fascinating.

Really incredible.

The New York Times on Friday, in case you missed this, on Friday, the New York Times admitted that Donald Trump holds the levers of power in his battle at Harvard University.

The Times said Harvard has no way out of this.

This is going to cripple them.

He's come after them for their anti-Semitism and said, no, you know what?

We're not giving you any federal money.

You get rid of the DEI thing, you get anti-Semitism under control, and then we can talk about it.

Instead, they doubled down on their DEI.

And so he said, fine, you can't enroll international students anymore.

And I'm taking away all your funding.

Now, the judge blocked the

banning of the international students for a little while.

I think that was just temporarily blocked.

But he's got massive federal funding that he's withholding.

Now, he says he's going to give it to the trade schools, which I would be all for, but unfortunately, it was

earmarked for

science and medicine.

So he can't just give that to the welding school.

But he can definitely hold it back.

And

I'm fine with that.

You fine with that, Stu?

I'm good.

Yeah, I think so.

I mean, obviously, it's got to be done the right way.

It seems like he is doing it the right way.

And also, I just don't even understand why this is going to crush Harvard.

They've got billions and billions of dollars.

What do you mean?

What does that mean that they need federal funding?

They shouldn't need federal funding, certainly.

No.

But I mean, I keep hearing this claim.

I know part of it is because some of the endowment is specifically targeted to certain things, so they can't just use it for general purposes.

What else is the cause of that, Glenn?

They're also, Trump is talking about taxing the endowment now.

So if he taxes the endowment, there's a huge number that goes to the federal government, and I say amen to that.

I would just, I think they should just be taxed as general, just in general.

You make this money, you're taxed.

Why are we

making you tax-free?

That makes no sense whatsoever.

I agree with that.

But what they're really concerned about is the,

are you going to go to Harvard if you're seeing Harvard in a war with the White House and the funding for the research you want to do is off again, on again.

Why don't I just go to Yale?

Why don't I go to Stanford?

Why don't I go to someplace else that's doing that kind of research?

I'm not going to Yale.

And so they're thinking that not only is this going to hurt

immediately, but it's also going to hurt all the people that would want to go to Harvard.

They'll be like, I'm not, I don't want any of that in my life.

I just want to do the work.

I just want to do the work.

This is why it's pathetic.

Like, they should just say, well, we don't want any dollars from the federal government then.

Like, that's what they should do.

And they won't.

They won't.

I mean, Hillsdale somehow pulls it off, right?

There are lots of universities and colleges that do this because of a principled stand they've made.

You know, if you're worried about government influence, you should listen to conservatives who have been telling you forever, then don't deal with government influence.

Do it on your own.

But they, they, I mean, it's, it's inexplicable that they just wouldn't do that if they wanted to take this supposedly brave stand.

Stop depending on the government then.

I was talking to somebody about a project I'm working on.

They said, you know, the government offers grants for that.

I just laughed.

I said, do you know who I am?

Taking government grant?

No, I don't want the government in any part.

I would rather starve than have a government grant involved in anything that I do.

No, thank you.

No, thank you.

You, uh, you're like not like other celebrities.

Most people say, Do you know who I am trying to get a table at a restaurant?

You just say, Do you know who I am when you realize that there's no chance you're going to get any benefit from the government or the media?

It's to show how pathetic you are, not how important you are.

It's crazy.

It is really, really crazy.

Let's see.

Did you see the latest on, you know, from the book?

You're reading Jake Tapper's book, aren't you?

Yeah, I finished it actually over the weekend.

And did you get to the part that they were talking about this weekend where they were saying that it's, you know, that they were willing to do very undemocratic things?

You know, just let's get him invited.

Let's get him re-elected.

And then, you know, we have our, they actually called it a Pullet Bureau.

Yeah.

Yep.

They internally.

You know what a Politburo?

Explain what a Pullet Bureau is, if you can.

Do you know what one is?

Yeah.

I mean, it's like, I mean, you think of the Soviet Union, right?

Like this band.

It's the group, a group of elites at the very top of the party that make all the decisions.

That's what they were calling themselves internally.

This is one of the things why I think like because of

the conversation around Jake Tapper, which has obviously been more about like, hey, this this guy shouldn't written this book.

He didn't do the coverage right at the time and all that stuff, which is important to talk about.

But I think conservatives have missed out on a book they'd actually probably really like.

It's basically 90% of this book is just bashing Joe Biden and showing all sorts of conspiracies around him to hide this from the American people.

There's a lot of stuff in there that's really important and is absolutely a foundation for an investigation by Congress into what occurred here.

Are we going to do anything about it?

See, that's why I don't want to read it because I don't want to get all juiced up on it because I already am.

I know enough.

I don't want to get all juiced up on it and then nothing happens.

Well, I mean,

people should go to jail.

They should go to jail.

I mean, look, if they want to do this investigation, there's no reason they couldn't do it.

At least start it right now.

Now, if you lose the house, it becomes more difficult, of course.

But you could absolutely do this investigation.

And like, you know,

a lot of people were talking about the book as if it's like, oh, well, we already knew this.

Like, conservatives were already saying this stuff.

And of course, conservatives were saying this.

We were.

We were.

We were saying this.

But we were not.

We did not have quotes from the people who were actually doing it.

We didn't, we saw what we saw publicly, which was really important.

We all speculated on.

Like, for example, during the assassination attempt, well, this was going on.

What did we all speculate on?

Like, they don't care about this at all.

They actually, in reality, they probably are only angry about this assassination attempt because

they uh it did work out because it could work for donald trump right it could be a benefit politically for donald trump that yeah they have aides close aides to biden giving that exact quote in this book that the only reason they were upset about i mean the way i can't remember the exact phrasing of the quote but they were upset about it because they were worried it would benefit donald trump politically like some of the stuff that we said is confirmed in here some of it is like additional to what a conservative would feel it's weird because i like i think we're so obsessed with the author of this book for some reason that we're not actually looking at this and taking what I think is something we don't normally see.

This is the stuff that we beg for as conservatives, that mainstream journalists would actually do this.

Do we like the timing?

No.

Although it is worth noting that Alex Thompson is the co-author of the book and was reporting a lot of this stuff at the time.

He was one of the few people who were doing it.

But still, I just don't think that that's the main story out of this book.

This should lead to investigations, and I hope it does.

Yeah, it's not the main story.

And I think there are some that just don't want to give Jake Tapper a dime.

And that's fair.

I'm one of them on that.

If you could download it for free, I probably would be more likely to read it.

Well, let me, just quickly, Glenn, on that note,

if you happen to be a Spotify subscriber, it's part of their subscription program.

They do audio books on there.

So you can do an audio book

tonight.

Yeah, and it'll cost you zero extra dollars.

Yeah.

The other thing that,

like I said, I don't think it's all entirely about Jake Tepper.

I really don't.

I think some people feel that way.

But I also think that

I think we've lost so much faith in the system.

We just don't think anything's going to happen.

Yeah.

So why?

Why?

Okay.

Wow.

They did that too.

Yeah.

Well, we've been watching the things they've been doing and getting away with for a very long time.

You know, write a book.

when you have one of them actually go to trial and then to prison.

That's a book I'll read.

Okay.

The rest of it, I've heard it all before.

I've heard it all before.

This and worse.

So write a book when they actually go to jail.

Maybe that's just me.