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Speaker 1 Hey, on today's podcast, podcast, how far left will the far left go?

Speaker 10 I mean, they've decided to protest RFK Jr.,

Speaker 11 one of the furthest left voices, what, like 10 minutes ago?

Speaker 12 Also, JD Vance joins the program today.

Speaker 14 We talk about trade, the Middle East, and so much more.

Speaker 8 It's fascinating to hear him talk.

Speaker 11 Also,

Speaker 16 our views are changing on many things, but has the right accepted too many left-leaning positions, or are we now on the right track?

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Speaker 5 the best of the Blenbeck Program. All right, hell, Stu, how are you? Wonderful.
Really cool.

Speaker 1 Everything is awesome.

Speaker 5 Great. Everything is cool when you're part of the team.

Speaker 25 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 33 And are we part of the team?

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 33 yesterday,

Speaker 33 things went a little nuts in Washington.

Speaker 7 There were some unhinged leftists.

Speaker 17 Now,

Speaker 35 that's a little redundant,

Speaker 37 but some unhinged leftists

Speaker 10 were at the RFK hearing.

Speaker 25 where

Speaker 31 he's talking to the House Appropriations Committee

Speaker 25 and some crazy protester erupted, you know, in just what they do.

Speaker 33 And if you're watching the Blaze, I want you to watch this or listen to it if you're on radio.

Speaker 3 Here we go.

Speaker 38 The witness will suspend. The committee will come to order.
Capitol Police are asked to remove the individuals from hearing you.

Speaker 38 Members of the audience

Speaker 5 are reminded disruptions will not be tolerated.

Speaker 8 I guess they were saying RFK lies and people die.

Speaker 4 I don't.

Speaker 8 Maybe it was about Hamas. Maybe it was about

Speaker 11 too many umbrellas.

Speaker 5 I don't know. It was.
It was too many umbrellas. Too many umbrellas.

Speaker 5 Far too many umbrellas in this country for sun and for rain.

Speaker 1 I mean, what is that? It's everything.

Speaker 1 I'm with them, frankly.

Speaker 39 Too many.

Speaker 25 So we have JF or RFK.

Speaker 35 Now,

Speaker 41 did you see, if you're watching it, did you see his reaction?

Speaker 43 Watch again, just the very beginning of it.

Speaker 5 Stop. He looks terrifying.
He looks like he's about to get shot. Yeah.
But you're as a Kennedy.

Speaker 1 Kennedy.

Speaker 44 You don't do that to a Kennedy.

Speaker 25 Now, here's what's crazy.

Speaker 43 These are radical leftists.

Speaker 1 Stu,

Speaker 43 when did people stop considering his radical leftist

Speaker 19 lifetime record?

Speaker 5 I don't know. I'm

Speaker 5 as perplexed as anybody on this one.

Speaker 35 He has been a radical leftist for a very long time.

Speaker 5 I mean, I would think there's probably examples of other hearings back in the day where people were doing that type of protest on his behalf. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 5 Maybe not that he asked for it, but like thinking that they're aligned with him, certainly on climate issues. And now all of a sudden,

Speaker 5 I guess you get involved with Donald Trump and everybody turns.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 43 So let me go back to the testimony.

Speaker 19 Cut one, please.

Speaker 5 So do you disagree with the cuts that are being proposed for Medicaid right now?

Speaker 38 No, the cuts to, you know, this is a, I don't know if you understand this or whether you're just mouthing, you know, the Democratic talking boys.

Speaker 38 The cuts to Medicaid are

Speaker 38 for fraud, waste, and abuse. And I'll tell you what that means.

Speaker 38 It means that because of doge we were able to determine and it's about eight million people who would be affected because of doge we were able to determine that there are a million people who are claiming medicaid from multiple states that's illegal it's theft you're not allowed to do that there are another million people who are collecting both under obamacare and the secretary that has nothing to do with the budget that these are the only cuts that are being made these are the only cuts that are being made to medicaid that's not true

Speaker 38 yes it is

Speaker 38 Another million illegal aliens. We announced a law yesterday, yesterday, a rule yesterday, we're not going to pay illegal aliens anymore.
And guess what Gavin Newsom did this morning?

Speaker 38 He said, we're going to take all the illegal aliens off the California Medicaid rolls because the feds aren't paying for them anymore. So the compassion ends.
Secretary, let me focus you.

Speaker 1 It's incredible.

Speaker 41 How no one is actually listening to facts anymore.

Speaker 12 I mean, it's one thing when you're not listening to facts, you know, from Donald Trump or Joe Biden.

Speaker 33 Okay.

Speaker 28 We can argue about facts all day and we, you know,

Speaker 27 whatever.

Speaker 1 This is RFK

Speaker 29 arguing with Democrats about Medicaid fraud abuse.

Speaker 25 And he's saying, We're just taking people off that are illegally using Medicaid.

Speaker 40 Who is against this?

Speaker 17 Honestly, again, who is against this?

Speaker 19 Now, Gavin Newsom is putting everybody on California aid.

Speaker 48 Excuse me, California?

Speaker 3 How are you going to afford that?

Speaker 37 Every taxpayer, left, right,

Speaker 19 center, every taxpayer in California should be raising holy hell.

Speaker 29 Will they? No.

Speaker 1 No, they won't.

Speaker 43 They won't. How are you going to pay for that?

Speaker 41 Your state is going to collapse economically.

Speaker 51 Now, you know why the Democrats are not worried about that?

Speaker 44 It's because that's part of the plan.

Speaker 35 That is Cloud and Pivin.

Speaker 36 Collapse and overwhelm and collapse the system.

Speaker 35 And they've already done it.

Speaker 33 They did it in New York City back in the 70s, and New York City collapsed.

Speaker 29 Now they're doing it to states.

Speaker 42 And it's going to happen the same way.

Speaker 9 And I'll be damned if I am going to send my taxpayer dollars to California because you didn't have the balls or the brains to stand up.

Speaker 19 Not doing it.

Speaker 29 I'm not doing it.

Speaker 42 Hey, dummy.

Speaker 41 Only one of us is going to be right in the end about your financial collapse.

Speaker 47 And everybody who can put two plus two equals four

Speaker 19 down on a table, Not seven, even if you show me your work, but four.

Speaker 41 This is simple math.

Speaker 19 You are going to collapse. Why am I going to pay for it?

Speaker 33 You come to the United States of America and you ask us to bail you out. And anybody in Congress that is from my state,

Speaker 35 I will make it my mission.

Speaker 25 To put you out on the street.

Speaker 19 I will make it my mission if you vote to bail California out.

Speaker 30 Oh, but we have to have California.

Speaker 19 Do we?

Speaker 41 Do we?

Speaker 5 Do we, really?

Speaker 23 Do we?

Speaker 1 Honestly,

Speaker 9 I didn't sign up for a suicide pack.

Speaker 44 I moved to Texas for a reason.

Speaker 33 I didn't want to be part of the suicide.

Speaker 33 Well, no, they're committing suicide, so we all have to.

Speaker 16 What kind of cult are you in?

Speaker 25 My gosh.

Speaker 34 And

Speaker 11 look what the Democrats are doing.

Speaker 33 Look at what the left is doing.

Speaker 18 The left is becoming so incredibly radical.

Speaker 29 You had in Newark, you had what was her, what was her name?

Speaker 36 The Congresswoman.

Speaker 36 I wrote it down.

Speaker 17 Congresswoman, shoot, something.

Speaker 19 La Monica MacGyver.

Speaker 19 This week on MacGyver,

Speaker 4 we assault ICE agents in Newark, New Jersey.

Speaker 19 So MacGyver went out.

Speaker 25 Congresswoman goes out and it's pretty clear assaults these officers and tries to storm in as part of oversight.

Speaker 33 That wasn't oversight.

Speaker 1 That was an oversight.

Speaker 50 And you know what it really was?

Speaker 41 A setup.

Speaker 33 Because I want you to play the AOC comment from a couple of days ago where she commented on this.

Speaker 39 Because Homan says, no, in fact, plague Holman first.

Speaker 9 No one's above the law. Listen to this.

Speaker 5 Do you want the congresswoman who was caught on camera assaulting ICE agents to be arrested for that?

Speaker 52 If you assault an officer, absolutely. No one's above the law.

Speaker 52 We should be supporting them, not assaulting them.

Speaker 52 Especially in a facility that carrying some of the worst of the worst, you can't lose control of the facility. And when you cause

Speaker 1 what they cost up there,

Speaker 52 it causes the safety and security of that facility to fall. And that's not what you they're trying.
And I said to anyone,

Speaker 38 you can

Speaker 52 not support us. You can support Sanctuary City.
Shame on you, but you have that right. But don't cross that line and you will ask for criminal prosecution.

Speaker 17 Okay, so

Speaker 33 the government, you know, now the government, that's sane at least, is saying, look, I don't care who you are, left, right, pink, purple, black, white, doesn't matter.

Speaker 25 You assault a police officer, you're going to jail.

Speaker 5 Well, that, I mean, that's just something I've always grown up with what about january 6th beck yeah you're january 6th you're like those people going to jail

Speaker 1 yeah i'm going to have another conversation with you about the rule of law and due process but that's for a different uh time uh

Speaker 53 now what are they doing now aoc comes out with this warning And now what DHS is trying to say, again, they're using public intimidation because they know that they cannot come for us all they know that they are not that they cannot come for us all and recently what they said is that DHS is allegedly looking into arresting members of Congress who are showing up for their legal and constitutional obligation to conduct oversight if anyone's breaking the law in this situation it's not members of Congress it's the Department of Homeland Security it's people like Tom Homan and Secretary Christy Noam You lay a finger on someone, on Representative Bonnie Watson-Coleman,

Speaker 53 on Representative, or any of the representatives that were there, you lay a finger on them, we are going to have a problem because the people who are breaking the law are the people who are not abiding by it.

Speaker 53 And it is enshrined in the law that members of Congress who show up to ICE and CBP facilities are required to be granted access, legally required to be granted access.

Speaker 53 And they legally cannot be inhibited from accessing these facilities to conduct their constitutional obligation to investigate and conduct oversight.

Speaker 53 So if Christy Noam wants to break the law,

Speaker 2 that's on her. Okay.

Speaker 5 How can anybody take this person seriously?

Speaker 5 I know.

Speaker 5 They did state a poll. Who's the face of the Democratic Party? Her.
She was number one.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 5 This This complete moron bartender from five years ago is the face of the party now. Yeah, well, but which is, I mean, perfectly just.

Speaker 40 It's reasonable.

Speaker 44 It's just.

Speaker 27 If you've been watching the Democratic Party, it's reasonable that she would be the leader now.

Speaker 42 They're socialist.

Speaker 49 They're stupid.

Speaker 36 They're nothing but activist.

Speaker 41 They're nothing but chosen

Speaker 28 puppets for, I don't know who's pulling all the strings of the Democratic Party, but that's what she is.

Speaker 49 She's just a little puppet. She's just a little chosen puppet.

Speaker 36 Hey, you know what, bartender?

Speaker 23 We can make you a star.

Speaker 17 And we have that all backed up.

Speaker 9 We did a show on her early on, how she was selected, how she was elected.

Speaker 25 I mean, she was selected.

Speaker 11 She's a little puppet.

Speaker 33 So, you know, it makes total sense that she is the face of the Democratic Party.

Speaker 43 But what's happening here?

Speaker 6 What's happening?

Speaker 25 DHS,

Speaker 1 the Hamas, the

Speaker 33 riots now of everybody standing up and saying,

Speaker 29 you know,

Speaker 37 you can't

Speaker 35 export illegal aliens.

Speaker 36 You can't send them back home.

Speaker 42 The riots that are just itching to start.

Speaker 33 Now we have, what's his name, the failed vice presidential candidate, little short

Speaker 4 Elmer Fudd Hunter guy.

Speaker 1 Oh, gosh. What was his name?

Speaker 5 The guy

Speaker 5 in Wolf.

Speaker 34 No, Tom.

Speaker 15 No.

Speaker 18 Anyway, you know him.

Speaker 5 Oh, Tim Waltz.

Speaker 39 Tim Waltz.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 5 you sure he was the one who ran?

Speaker 5 I think so. Okay.

Speaker 51 All right. I'm not sure anymore.

Speaker 18 But he's now come out and said, you know, the government's going to release

Speaker 15 Derek Chauvin.

Speaker 11 No,

Speaker 33 there's no evidence of that.

Speaker 17 There's none.

Speaker 50 Donald Trump has said, no, we're not doing that.

Speaker 33 But what are they doing?

Speaker 25 They're itching for a race riot.

Speaker 50 They're setting something up.

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Speaker 55 We welcome to the program, the Vice President of the United States, and somebody who I think has a presidency in his future, J.D.

Speaker 1 Vance.

Speaker 6 Welcome to the program, Mr. Vice President.

Speaker 46 Glenn, how are we doing? I'm great.

Speaker 1 I'm great.

Speaker 50 What an amazing few days the president has had, first with all of the

Speaker 6 foreign winds before he left, with the wars, you know, and everything that the State Department and Marco Rubio is doing.

Speaker 34 And

Speaker 41 now this speech, I think this Riyadh speech is historic on so many levels.

Speaker 33 How would you describe what's going on in the Middle East this week?

Speaker 46 Yeah, so I agree with you, Glenn, about that particular speech. I mean, when I listened to it, and I obviously knew a little bit about what the president was going to say,

Speaker 46 it changed a little bit, I would say, over the last couple of days.

Speaker 46 But the core message is very simple, that America wants not to remake the the world in america's image we don't want to force our allies to adopt our exact form of government we actually want to be in the business of shared interest and shared economic cooperation and so long as you're not trying to kill anybody and so long as you're interested in building wealth for your citizens and working with america then america is open for business and i think that's a very important signal to send to the world you know the Obama administration economist Larry Summers had a very smart point a few years ago.

Speaker 46 He said, you know, when the Chinese show up in the developing world, they show up with a bag of money. When Americans show up in the developing world, they show up with a lecture.

Speaker 46 And if you're given a choice between a lecture and a bag of money, you're going to choose a bag of money every step of the way.

Speaker 46 I think what the President is saying is that era of American preachiness and America telling other countries how to live their lives, that era is over.

Speaker 46 And I think it's a very important point for the Middle East. It's a very important point for the whole globe.

Speaker 46 And in some ways, only President Trump could have made that argument at this point in time.

Speaker 31 Are we stopping with the bags of money, too?

Speaker 46 I think we're stopping with both, but

Speaker 46 we are really looking at economic cooperation.

Speaker 46 You know, in Africa, for example, Glenn, you have American diplomats sent by the Biden administration who are telling very conservative Christian African countries that they need to fly the LGBTQ flag, but they're not engaging in any economic arrangement where, you know, the Africans have critical minerals that we need.

Speaker 46 They have other industries that we could be participating in, we could be partnering on. And I think that's the bags of money point.

Speaker 46 It's not that we're going to give them money, but that we could have some shared economic relations with a conservative African country where we wouldn't want to tell them how to live their lives.

Speaker 46 We would actually just want to enter into a partnership with them. And that's, again, a big, big change.

Speaker 46 It's a big shift, but it's an important shift from a very dumb American foreign policy to a very smart one that I think is going to benefit this country for the next generation.

Speaker 25 There was this old TV show.

Speaker 3 It was a game show when I was a kid called the $20,000 Pyramid.

Speaker 55 And they would allow you to say pass, and you could skip the subject or the question.

Speaker 3 And I give you that.

Speaker 1 We're playing the $20,000 Pyramid here.

Speaker 50 I look at the reaction of your speech in Europe, then I see the moves that they're making.

Speaker 4 I see the new Prime Minister of Canada, who was the architect of the Glasgow Financial Accords.

Speaker 50 And I'm not sure that that we're on the same page anymore.

Speaker 50 We can be friends with everybody, but I'm not sure we're walking down the same path anymore with those countries.

Speaker 46 Well, it worries me, Glenn, because look, there are certainly some economic benefits and friendships that we can have with a lot of our, you know, sort of Western European and obviously our Canadian friends.

Speaker 46 But in Western Europe in particular, you know, my view on this, Glenn, is our relationship with Western Europe is always going to be unique.

Speaker 46 America, of course, started as an English colony. We're always going to have a special relationship with the United Kingdom.

Speaker 46 But what that means fundamentally is that if we see certain Western European countries, in Germany, for example, where we have 38,000 troops, if we see Germans doing something that is incredibly offensive to America's values, I think Americans are recoil a little bit at that.

Speaker 46 And, you know, I went to Germany very recently, very briefly, Glenn, just to visit the troops and say hello.

Speaker 46 And I was hearing from Germans even during that very brief visit on the ground things that they were worried about free speech policies in their own country.

Speaker 46 Well, if we've got 38,000 troops there and we're living amongst the Germans, we're literally defending their country,

Speaker 46 I think you can expect Americans to at least express some negative opinions about some of the free speech policies they're seeing in Europe. And Glenn, you know this as well as anybody.

Speaker 46 Things that start in Europe sometimes come over to America in the same way that things that start in America sometimes make their way to Europe.

Speaker 46 The kind of social media censorship that we've seen in Western Europe, it will in some ways already has made its way to the United States.

Speaker 46 That was the story of the Biden administration silencing people on social media. So we're going to be very protective of American interests when it comes to things like social media regulation.

Speaker 46 We want to promote free speech. We don't want our European friends telling social media companies that they have to silence Christians or silence conservatives.

Speaker 46 And I think there is going to be that friction over the next 10 years. It's not that we're not friends, but there are going to be some disagreements you didn't see 10 years ago.

Speaker 8 So, you know, they have decided they're not going to pursue being a leader in AI, but they're going to make all the rules.

Speaker 29 How confident are you that we are in

Speaker 3 a winning position here on AI?

Speaker 12 It is advancing so rapidly.

Speaker 23 And the things I hear that

Speaker 17 come out of China, it's either, no, they're way behind, it's all a paper tiger, or they're way ahead.

Speaker 34 Where are we, do you think, on AI and

Speaker 33 AGI?

Speaker 46 Well, I think that we're ahead, Glenn, but

Speaker 46 nobody who says that we're way ahead should be believed.

Speaker 46 In artificial intelligence, six months is a lifetime.

Speaker 46 12 months is a generation.

Speaker 46 We're probably 12 months, maybe two years ahead of where the Chinese are when it comes to critical hardware, when it comes to the necessary infrastructure, when it comes to the engineering talent.

Speaker 46 But that is not very far ahead at all. And we're really going to have to invest a lot in developing America's next generation of scientists.

Speaker 46 Glenn, we're going to have to make sure that our hardware companies, that we stop regulating them to death, that our energy infrastructure, that we stop regulating it to death.

Speaker 46 Because if we allow the Chinese to catch up, we may never, ever have an edge on China in this space again. And I think a lot of people, you know, artificial intelligence, it's a chat bot.

Speaker 46 It's something that maybe helps a college student write a paper. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 46 The artificial intelligence that I'm worried about, Glenn, is the kind of intelligence that helps them develop next generation weapons, that helps their rockets and missiles hit their target.

Speaker 46 99% more accurate than

Speaker 46 the weapons that aren't using artificial intelligence.

Speaker 46 There are just massive massive defense technology implications of this that it's kind of like, you know, what would have happened if the English Army had fought the Americans in the Revolutionary War and we had M16s and they had muskets.

Speaker 46 We don't want to meet on a battlefield of the future and have, you know, that we have the muskets and the Chinese have the M16s.

Speaker 46 I think AI is a critical part of staying ahead of the communist Chinese. And it's something, look, we're very focused on.

Speaker 46 We've got a great guy in David Sachs of the administration who's leading this effort, but it's full pedal to the metal glen. We have to constantly be innovating and staying ahead of the game.

Speaker 46 We can't follow the European lead of regulating. We want America to innovate and that's what we're going to keep doing.

Speaker 33 I spoke to the president a couple of weeks ago and he, you know, I was going to ask him about nuclear energy and he just volunteered.

Speaker 22 You know, I said, you know, what about energy with AI?

Speaker 25 And he

Speaker 50 went into saying, you know,

Speaker 34 we're talking about making them

Speaker 1 their own utilities.

Speaker 14 They can build it.

Speaker 3 We're going to clear, even if they want to make nuclear power plants.

Speaker 35 That didn't print.

Speaker 36 I mean, I thought that was one of the bigger headlines of my lifetime.

Speaker 23 And nobody seemed to pick that up or care about that.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 37 we do lose if we don't have these power plants.

Speaker 16 What are we doing to accelerate? I mean, they need 99% of our power by

Speaker 15 2028.

Speaker 28 99% of the power that's currently being made.

Speaker 16 We need power plants.

Speaker 46 Yeah, you're a smart guy, Glenn, because I don't know what else the president said during that interview, but I doubt it was as important as that point.

Speaker 1 Nothing.

Speaker 46 This is a critical issue. And you ask what we've done.
We've had Lee Zeldin at the EPA and all of our environmental folks look at how we cut through the red tape and make it possible. Because

Speaker 46 the market would do this, right?

Speaker 46 These companies would like to do this, but it's the environmental bureaucrats that have told them you can't really attach a power plant off-grid to a pure artificial intelligence hardware facility.

Speaker 46 We're tearing down those regulations and making it possible again. And then, of course, Glenn, part of this is not just building these facilities, but is powering them with the fuel that we need.

Speaker 46 And the president, you hear this term, all of the above. The president has really said we're in all of the above.

Speaker 46 Like, you know, we're releasing regulations on coal, we're empowering the natural gas folks, petroleum, obviously, nuclear.

Speaker 46 Like, this is a president who said, all power that we have, we need to put into

Speaker 46 this prospect. And Glenn, one more important point on this.
If you look at a chart of electricity generation, the People's Republic of China versus the United States,

Speaker 46 20 years ago, we blew them out of the water. Right now, the PRC is producing about three times as much electricity as we are, and we flatlined over the last 20 years.

Speaker 46 That's innovation, that's development. That's got to change, Glenn.
We have got to be producing more power for the next wave of innovation. It's maybe the most important part of the puzzle.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 50 I did a show last night on just that a reset is coming.

Speaker 55 It's inevitable that a reset is coming.

Speaker 10 And we have to hurry, cut the budget,

Speaker 3 onshore,

Speaker 50 fix the tariff or the trade deficit, or we don't really have a chance of doing anything.

Speaker 34 And as I was looking at, we ran three different models through AI, and they all came back with the same stuff.

Speaker 25 And we're doing those.

Speaker 3 The president is doing those things, except for the cutting of the budget.

Speaker 33 I mean, Congress won't even pass the Doge cuts.

Speaker 34 When will the White House become strong on you must cut the spending?

Speaker 46 Yeah, great question, Glenn. And I will say the big, beautiful bill text just came out last week.
That's going to change a lot from now until then.

Speaker 46 We've already had conversations with House leadership that we want to see some more significant efforts to rein in spending here.

Speaker 46 The President also believes, Glenn, and I think he's right about that, that if you cut the trade deficit or

Speaker 46 you raise revenue through tariffs, that you actually go a long way to making the country on a more sustainable fiscal pathway as well. But you're right.

Speaker 46 You can't do it without cutting domestic spending. We're going to have to do it and get serious about it.
I mean, I think the red money.

Speaker 46 We're making that as clear to congressional leaders as possible. But look,

Speaker 46 knock on wood here, but I think that once we get the final package out of the House and the Senate, we're going to have something that's serious

Speaker 46 on budget cutting. And there's one final point on this, Glenn.

Speaker 46 What no one talks enough about and where I, you know, when I talk to Elon, I talk to the Doge folks, where they think they're going to get the most cuts is in taking people, illegal aliens and and other people who are defrauding the Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security system.

Speaker 46 Like you think about two people, right? A guy who's paid into Social Security for 40 years. Obviously, we want that guy to get his Social Security benefits.

Speaker 46 You compare that person to an illegal alien who's engaged in Medicaid fraud. Obviously, we don't want that person to get their benefits.

Speaker 46 I think Democrats are going to fight us on this, but this is such an important point.

Speaker 46 We cannot allow people to defraud the Medicare Medicare and Medicaid system, or it's going to bankrupt this country. It's also just fundamentally unfair.

Speaker 46 I don't want people who shouldn't even be here to be on the public dole. Right.

Speaker 22 I know you're headed over to the Vatican.

Speaker 6 You're going to be celebrating the inaugural Mass of Pope Leo this weekend, along with Senator Rubio, who's also Catholic.

Speaker 33 You had one of the last conversations with the last Pope.

Speaker 23 Why does the Pope

Speaker 9 matter so much to the world?

Speaker 50 And I want to talk beyond faith and religion.

Speaker 31 Why is he so important?

Speaker 46 Well, you know, obviously, right, he is the leader of 1.4 billion Catholics. And so there is just a lot of soft influence, right? He doesn't have a military.
He doesn't have an army.

Speaker 46 But he does have a lot of influence through those Catholics.

Speaker 46 And, you know, a lot of those Catholics, I think we won a majority of Catholics in the last election, but a lot of those Catholics continue to vote Democratic.

Speaker 46 And so, you know, there is just a natural influence in

Speaker 46 having the ear of 1.4 billion faithful people, including, you know, 100 million or so in the United States.

Speaker 46 I also think, Lynn, something I've picked up on, and you don't see a lot of headlines about this, but the Vatican has already played a very constructive role in some of the peace conversations that we've been having all over the world.

Speaker 46 They've been trying to facilitate negotiations between the Russians and the Ukrainians. They've been trying to facilitate other peaceful negotiations between various countries.

Speaker 46 And so, you know, they have that soft power, right? They have the ear of those Catholics, but then they also have an ability to use that soft power to play a mediating role in some of these disputes.

Speaker 46 So, you know, while the Pope doesn't have an F-35 standing behind him, he does have the prayers of a lot of faithful Catholics, and that matters when you try to insert yourself into these conversations.

Speaker 46 So we welcome that engagement. As you know, the president really does believe that we can have have less conflict in the world if we just have cooler heads prevail.

Speaker 46 So, yeah, we welcome that engagement and we'll continue to do so over the next few years.

Speaker 32 Thank you so much, Mr. Vice President, for all you do.

Speaker 6 If you don't know why he picked Leo as his name, you in particular will be fascinated by it. You'll have to ask him because

Speaker 26 you'll love the reason why he did.

Speaker 25 Have a safe trip.

Speaker 34 Thank you for everything that you've done and Godspeed.

Speaker 46 Thanks, Glenn. Take care, man.
Bye-bye.

Speaker 42 J.D. Vance, our vice president.

Speaker 46 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

Speaker 55 SCOTUS is listening to arguments on birthright citizenship. The focus really is on the judge's power to block policies nationwide.

Speaker 6 That's got to stop.

Speaker 14 That just has to stop. But we'll see what the Supreme Court has to say.

Speaker 5 That's really the focus of this, too. It's really not as much about birthright citizenship, right?

Speaker 5 From what I'm understanding,

Speaker 5 this one's more about the injunctions.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and it's going to be very narrow, even even on the injunctions, I think.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. So

Speaker 1 we'll see. We'll see.

Speaker 15 So welcome to the program. We're glad you're here.

Speaker 28 You know who's not here is Ben and Jerry.

Speaker 5 He's here in my heart. I mean, in that way, but I mean by like the calcium built up from all of the heart disease that I've received from the company over the years.
But yeah, no, he's not here.

Speaker 5 He was at that big hearing. He was, I'm getting, it's difficult to understand where everyone is anymore.
Like, I feel like at the time,

Speaker 5 it was, this was easier back in the day. You know, like, you could kind of like, you hear Ben and Jerry, you knew left, right? Like, it was easy.

Speaker 30 Now, I, you know, I, I missed the days when we could just put labels on people and it was easy.

Speaker 5 It was easy. It made things a little bit easier to keep track of.
You know, like some people have put the label anti-Semite, for example, on Ben and Jerry in their company over the years.

Speaker 5 That was a label that I thought was interesting. Right.

Speaker 5 You know, it's, but it's, he's like now opposing RFK, who, I mean,

Speaker 12 I think is on probably Ben and Jerry's side on many things.

Speaker 1 Almost everything,

Speaker 5 right? Like there are some things RFK has obviously changed on when it comes to the woke stuff, and I think some of the censorship stuff.

Speaker 5 Although I think, you know, I think I could be wrong on this, but maybe Ben might even be one of those old school socialist types that would

Speaker 5 maybe even agree with us on some of the censorship stuff, right? Maybe. Maybe.
You know, because I mean, part of the socialist movement in the United States was kind of built on the opposition, right?

Speaker 5 Was kind of built on the opposition to like the McCarthyism. Yeah.
And so there was, there's some ideological.

Speaker 3 They were before that when they were the ones being shut up.

Speaker 5 Of course. That's the right opposite.

Speaker 33 And now that they're not the ones being told to shut up, they're like, we have every right to tell you to shut up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, oh, okay.

Speaker 5 Let me ask you this, though, because

Speaker 5 he's also been embraced by some parts of the right.

Speaker 5 And, you know, like, Tucker did an interview with him. That's not an embrace.
You could talk to whoever you want to talk to, right? There's nothing wrong with that. We've done it.

Speaker 5 We've talked to people on the far, far left, even much farther left, and crazier than even Ben or Jerry over the years. I no problem with that.
As a journalist, you should do that.

Speaker 5 I mean, you know, Tucker talked to Vladimir Putin.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Right. So did Megan Kelly.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 9 I would talk to

Speaker 6 America's biggest enemies.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't suck it up to him.

Speaker 5 Right. You would ask tough questions.

Speaker 5 I'm sure Tucker did in the interview.

Speaker 5 But we are, I've noticed this thing that we're doing, and I'm a little concerned.

Speaker 5 Let me see if I can articulate this.

Speaker 5 Us on

Speaker 5 the right, the conservative side of the spectrum, find

Speaker 5 someone

Speaker 5 who has some crossover with us in some way, but is really a figure of the left.

Speaker 5 And we kind of give them this warm embrace and say, hey, come on over. We've got this thing that we agree on.
It's wonderful. And then they sort of become part of the movement.

Speaker 5 And that's totally fine. Like, let me give you an example.
Tulsi Gabbard.

Speaker 5 I really like Tulsi Gabbard. She's been on the show a bunch of times.
She's in the administration right now.

Speaker 1 She's great.

Speaker 5 So this is not criticism. I'm glad Tulsi Gabbard has had this awakening over the years.
I'm excited about that. But so she comes over.
She's, you know,

Speaker 5 she supported Bernie Sanders, ran the Sanders campaign in Hawaii back in the day, you know, not that long ago. But she's had a transition.

Speaker 5 She's come over and obviously is in the Trump administration now.

Speaker 5 And so

Speaker 5 we look at that and we say, hey, that's great. We've brought someone from the left over to our side.

Speaker 5 And that's great if that's what you're doing. If you're convincing someone on the left.
to convert their ideas into something closer to your ideas. That's a positive change.

Speaker 5 You're widening the tent in a way that we all can support. But really, what Tulsi's doing in the government right now is she's being consistent with her old left-wing views on things like

Speaker 5 stopping wars and not, you know, and being tough on intelligence issues with the government.

Speaker 16 Yeah, because we woke up on that.

Speaker 5 Well, because we've changed, right? Yeah, yeah. So

Speaker 5 that's what I'm getting to here. What seems to be happening is we're embracing things on the left, and it's not us changing their views into ours.

Speaker 5 It's us changing our views into theirs and then embracing some of those people. That's not necessarily bad if we were wrong the whole time, right?

Speaker 3 But I think we were on the endless wars.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 5 some of that I agree with, right? The phrasing of it and maybe

Speaker 5 the scope of it, maybe I'm not fully there. But generally speaking, I think, you know, we've definitely overstepped our bounds at times.

Speaker 1 A lot of times.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 I don't think that's improper to say. But I mean, again, I look at at the way Trump handles it and it's different than what Tulsi's vision of this is.
I think

Speaker 5 Trump is tough.

Speaker 15 I think Trump is Ronald Reagan.

Speaker 6 I'll pound you into the sand.

Speaker 12 I will turn your sand into glass.

Speaker 1 Don't screw with us.

Speaker 17 But then he's like, but we're buddies right now.

Speaker 3 So you don't want to be buddies?

Speaker 5 We'll be buddies. I like to, for example, this, his Syria move, I think is fascinating.
And I think the right move. I'm not 100% sure.

Speaker 1 And I'm not 100% sure.

Speaker 5 It's It's a very complicated situation.

Speaker 5 But I think it's worth taking a stab at this. It's a new regime.
The guy used to be literally in Al-Qaeda.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 However,

Speaker 7 maybe he's changed.

Speaker 5 I think the chances of it are low, but why not pull that lottery ticket? Because the downside is what we already had. So

Speaker 5 give a shot. You give the guy a handshake.
You say, hey, we're going to drop these sanctions. We're going to give you a chance to not turn yourself into the old regime.

Speaker 5 And I think that's the right approach. I think it's.

Speaker 31 Nobody is ever turned by lectures.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Or like opponents' lectures in particular. Right.

Speaker 17 I mean, you turn people through love and understanding and giving them the benefit of the doubt

Speaker 1 until they prove you wrong.

Speaker 5 It's a great point. And I think it ties back to

Speaker 5 my previous

Speaker 5 way where we started this conversation, which is a lot of people in our movement are being won over to previous left-wing left-wing positions by new friends.

Speaker 5 And that is not bad in and of itself, but we've done it a lot lately.

Speaker 40 And I'm going to change the channel.

Speaker 5 I have some better examples.

Speaker 33 Because I changed, not because of Tulsi.

Speaker 1 No. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 But the movement changed.

Speaker 13 And the reason why I liked Tulsi at first

Speaker 12 was I liked the fact that she was willing to stand up to her own machine and say, no, you guys are wrong.

Speaker 50 You guys are going down this fascistic route and I won't go there with you.

Speaker 25 You are changing all the rules.

Speaker 41 You're not who you said you were.

Speaker 26 That's why I originally liked her, because she'd take on her own people.

Speaker 23 And that takes courage.

Speaker 26 So it shows you something about her character.

Speaker 3 Then when you get to know her, you realize, oh, we might disagree on taxes and everything else, but she loves the country.

Speaker 27 She loves and reveres the Constitution of the United States.

Speaker 37 If I can get you on the Bill of Rights, we don't have any differences too big to not be able to bridge.

Speaker 5 And again, I don't think Tulsi is a problem. No, I don't.
That's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 But, you know, you have, let's, Tulsi is in DNI. You have RFK Jr., HHS.
It's a big one, right? Like, I mean, you know, you look at the way RFK Jr. approaches,

Speaker 5 I mean, he, look,

Speaker 5 he's awfully close to someone who looked like Michael Bloomberg on public health issues. This is something we, now he was

Speaker 5 kind of a Republican in New York at one point, But you know obviously it was something that I know we oppose and the audience loudly opposed when he was trying to control what you eat now.

Speaker 5 He has some you know I think there's some differences. I'm not saying there aren't any but like you know going after

Speaker 5 You know food companies and changing the way that that's a change for the if that's what the right is that is a change for the right.

Speaker 5 We were always in favor of people making their own choices and having uh companies be able to produce the products within some guidelines.

Speaker 50 As long as they are not killing people or

Speaker 1 harming people.

Speaker 5 There are guidelines. There's guardrails, of course, to all of this.
But generally speaking, ours were wide. The left's were small.

Speaker 5 And now we've taken the guy who was the voice of the left's view on those, RFK Jr., and put him in charge of the right's view of it. And is that a good thing? Maybe it's great.

Speaker 5 Maybe he's been completely right this whole time, and we should have been approaching things that way.

Speaker 50 I think if our society was not getting sicker and sicker and sicker,

Speaker 34 then

Speaker 5 there's reasons for all this stuff, but like we should, we should notice those things.

Speaker 5 You know, he's a really, I think, a big example of that because that is a, it's a massive change to the way that we've we've done these things. Another one is trade.

Speaker 5 Peter Navarro ran as a Democrat over and over and over and over again

Speaker 5 on these trade ideas. Now, Donald Trump has been consistent with these trade ideas since the day he was in the public eye.

Speaker 15 There's nobody who has been more outspoken on the anti-trade up until recently recently than me and you.

Speaker 3 You're still outspoken on it.

Speaker 8 I think we have to give it a shot because we're behind the eight ball here.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 5 I don't like the policy. I don't agree, but

Speaker 5 again, it's separate from whether each individual one of these is right. There's a lot of these, and over time,

Speaker 5 I think you'd acknowledge it is going to add up to a completely different formula. It might be the right thing for us to do.
But isn't this... But we should notice each one of these changes, I think.

Speaker 50 Isn't this, and I I think you're right on that, but isn't this the same as? I mean, you're not the same guy I met 30 years ago.

Speaker 14 Totally. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We all change.

Speaker 25 Yeah, we all change, and that's good.

Speaker 17 And we should notice when we change because then we learn from, wait, why did I just change?

Speaker 50 Did I change for the right reasons?

Speaker 33 Or did something happen to me?

Speaker 50 Is somebody around me that's changing this? You, you do.

Speaker 12 We do have to pay attention to the change.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 25 I think change is good.

Speaker 5 It can be. Yeah.
You know, I mean,

Speaker 17 if it's well thought out, if it is still built on principles

Speaker 3 and an evolving understanding, not of truth, but

Speaker 13 how to get to the truth.

Speaker 3 Like I, for instance, the foreign war thing, I just know right now, what we've been doing is not working.

Speaker 33 It's not going to make the world safer, ever, ever, ever, ever.

Speaker 1 It's not.

Speaker 5 However, sometimes it has, obviously, in previous wars. But yes,

Speaker 26 the meddling of everybody, trying to control everything.

Speaker 30 He can't control everything.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 11 And it just doesn't, it's not going to work. And

Speaker 1 it's making things worse.

Speaker 17 Now,

Speaker 36 pulling all the way back and saying, you know what,

Speaker 26 we don't want to be involved in the rest of the world.

Speaker 12 That doesn't sound good to me.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And I don't think that's what Trump is doing. Right.

Speaker 35 But it might be the right thing.

Speaker 37 I just know, I know for sure that what we had been doing doesn't work.

Speaker 29 And I really believed in what we were doing.

Speaker 26 Well, I believed in what I thought we were doing.

Speaker 51 You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 50 And so we have to make changes and changes in almost everything.

Speaker 42 And as long as it's logical, as long as you have really thought things out, as long as you're not just conforming, you know, the real, the really scary thing is when people begin to conform.

Speaker 50 for any other reason other than logic.

Speaker 14 I've reasoned this out.

Speaker 9 I've asked critical questions.

Speaker 33 And I'm sorry. I'd love more information that might change me out of this position, but this is where I find myself out, find myself at.

Speaker 32 And even if I'm uncomfortable, I have to stand here because this is my current understanding of what's best.

Speaker 41 You know, and as long as you keep an open mind and you're constantly seeking to have a better understand of deeper truths, then

Speaker 51 I think you're fine.

Speaker 17 But one of the things that we're going to face, especially with AI, is all of a sudden we're going to conform because Google would give you page after page after page after page of different information.

Speaker 43 Chat GPT gives you one answer.

Speaker 7 And you just assume it's right.

Speaker 5 They don't give you anything. It's going to be a fascinating development in our society.

Speaker 43 And it's already there.

Speaker 43 It totally is.

Speaker 50 You Googled and you had to go and reason and look at different things and everything else. This is one answer.

Speaker 30 I know it's right because it came from AI.

Speaker 17 Very dangerous.

Speaker 12 I guess the thing is, just the part I guess we really agree on is question everything always.

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