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Speaker 5 So, President Trump sat down with NBC News's Christian Welker over the weekend.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 2 lucky him.

Speaker 5 Lucky him.

Speaker 5 I don't know how many times he's going to have to answer this question.

Speaker 5 Do you know what the question was? It's always Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security being cut. I mean, how many times has he addressed this? The only ones talking about it are the left.

Speaker 2 The only ones who are threatening your Social Security or your Medicare, Medicaid are the Democrats.

Speaker 5 They're the only ones I ever hear bring this up because President Trump has said multiple times, I'm not cutting Social Security. We're not cutting Medicare and Medicaid.
We're not doing any of that.

Speaker 5 We're cutting fraud and waste, but

Speaker 2 who doesn't want that? Well, it's the best part of Medicare and Medicaid is the first thing. It's the fraud and the waste.

Speaker 2 Everyone loves that.

Speaker 2 Now, it's funny. I mean, there was a time where conservatives made arguments that

Speaker 2 these are unsustainable programs and need to be reformed.

Speaker 5 That time is long. It's long.

Speaker 2 It's gone. It's dead.
It is dead as a doornail. There is nobody who's coming up now and saying

Speaker 2 really much of anything about this. Trump's been really clear since the beginning, going back all the way to 2016,

Speaker 2 where he said, look, I'm not going to go after these programs at all. And that's where we are.

Speaker 2 There are zero parties looking to cut this right now. Zero.

Speaker 2 There's not one.

Speaker 2 No one wants to do it.

Speaker 5 But here's the question and the answer.

Speaker 7 What happens if it comes to your desk, has the tax cuts, but also cuts to Medicaid?

Speaker 8 Would you veto that? Well, we're not doing that.

Speaker 2 No, would you veto that?

Speaker 8 I would if they were cutting it, but they're not cutting it. They're looking at fraud, waste, and abuse.
And nobody minds that.

Speaker 8 If illegal immigrants are in the mix, if people that aren't supposed to be there, people that are non-citizens are in the mix, nobody minds that. Waste, fraud, and abuse.

Speaker 8 But we're not cutting Medicaid. We're not cutting Medicare, and we're not cutting Social Security.

Speaker 2 This is not over and over and over.

Speaker 2 It's the same thing. He's been saying, I said 2016, it's really 2015.
Yeah. Where he's been talking about this.

Speaker 2 I remember him being on the stage of one of those debates early on where there was still kind of strains in the Republican Party of wanting to reform these programs, and he was kind of seen as an outlier.

Speaker 2 He was like, no, I'm not doing it. And when everyone else is like, well, of course we'll make these, you know, we'll cut these programs.

Speaker 2 They never use the word cut. They would just say reform,

Speaker 2 which essentially, you know, they would be talking about things. Paul Ryan did this back in the early Paul Ryan days, where it was like, hey, we're going to change maybe the retirement age

Speaker 2 to reflect reality.

Speaker 5 They extend their retirement from 65 to 68 or 70 or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 And they were the most generous

Speaker 2 proposals, right? It was like,

Speaker 2 if you're born today, then you will have no change whatsoever. But in 70 years from now, we're going to extend.
It's like all this stupid stuff.

Speaker 2 And And it's like, they weren't even hardcore reforms back then.

Speaker 2 But Trump was very outspoken about opposing even that.

Speaker 5 The last time I remember actual reform being discussed by Republicans was under George W. Bush when he was talking about privatizing it.

Speaker 2 And we blew that completely away. It would have been so great.
Completely.

Speaker 5 Oh, it would have been so great.

Speaker 2 I was just going over something.

Speaker 2 This is before vacation was just going over this because there was some, I don't know if it was an anniversary anniversary or something of when he first proposed that Social Security reform, which was, again, genteel.

Speaker 2 It was like you could take 10%

Speaker 2 of your, I think it was 10% of your, of the money that was going into Social Security, and you could put it in an account to invest it in the market.

Speaker 5 But you didn't have to.

Speaker 2 You didn't have to. Remember that?

Speaker 5 If you don't want to do this, you don't have to do it. But if you want to privatize all or some of it, you can.

Speaker 2 And it was not available to people who

Speaker 2 were really close to retirement. So people were like, you know, a few years after that was the 2008 collapse.
People were like, oh, but what would have happened? Nothing.

Speaker 2 Because the way the bill was written, you couldn't have been in the program for the 2008 collapse. In fact, they went back and looked at it every single year it was available.
Every single year.

Speaker 2 Even then, you know, you're retiring in 2020. Every single year it was available,

Speaker 2 it would have worked out for the people who would have joined it. And of course, it only gets better and better as time goes on.
Right.

Speaker 2 But we didn't do that. We didn't do it.
Because people are

Speaker 2 going to cut Social Security. They had a fit about it back then.

Speaker 5 And they convinced everybody. They scared the crap out of them.
They fear-mongered like they always do and scared the crap out of elderly people.

Speaker 5 You're going to lose it.

Speaker 2 You're going to. No.
No.

Speaker 2 Are you listening to what's being said?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 No. Again, I am not a fan of these programs.

Speaker 2 I don't like them at all. I think the idea that FDR came along with this BS, well, it's actually like your own savings account thing that they did to get the government more money.

Speaker 2 Why don't you let me do that? Yeah, exactly. It's supposed to be your own responsibility.

Speaker 2 You can join a program like this if you want. Of course, people don't always choose that.

Speaker 2 And they certainly wouldn't choose the type of program that they get offered from the government, which is a terrible, horrible returns.

Speaker 2 And by the way, all the money you put in there is spent immediately. It's not saved.
There's no saving. There's no returns because the money has been spent on people who are retired now.

Speaker 2 And a totally insolvent program that everyone knows is a disaster. But let's all pretend like we should protect it until the end of time.

Speaker 2 Because let's pretend to let's make it act, let's all seem like it's a good idea to protect a program that we all know is failing in front of our eyes.

Speaker 5 But let's do it because polls like it.

Speaker 2 People like when they get money, when they get checks in the mail.

Speaker 2 And again, that's not to say that there's no program for elderly people who are in the situations that the program was originally designed for. People who like had their spouse die and they're

Speaker 2 sitting there long after they're able to work and need assistance. That is something totally different than the program that we have today.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it is. It's totally different.

Speaker 2 It's a long-term paid retirement plan with money that we don't have.

Speaker 5 And in 2032 or 2033, when this thing goes belly up, we're going to wish we'd done something

Speaker 5 long before that time to save it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And what they will, of course, just do is say that we don't want to reform it and they're going to just add to our taxes. You know, we'll just wind up.
That's what they'll have to do.

Speaker 2 That's what we'll wind up doing. Yeah.
Our children will wind up bailing it out or something at some point.

Speaker 2 Or we'll just continue to continue to print money and inflate our way out of the business. Well, there's that too.
Yeah. So again, there's no good options here.

Speaker 2 And I think, you know, President Trump has, I think, recognized the political realities of the situation,

Speaker 2 which is that no one likes the things that we're saying currently.

Speaker 2 Which I get. I mean, you know,

Speaker 2 you have to, yeah.

Speaker 2 Look,

Speaker 2 the reason why the Democrats say this crap all the time is because it's effective. When people get scared they're going to lose their programs,

Speaker 2 they vote for the other guy. Every time.
Or in the most recent election, the other lady. That's how it works.
And so I understand why this happens.

Speaker 2 It is a real problem, though, when we talk about, you know, look, Doge,

Speaker 2 97,000 Elon Musks could not touch the problem that we're talking about when it comes to these programs.

Speaker 2 These programs are what is completely upending our budget. And, you know, like, I don't care how much fraud, waste, and abuse.

Speaker 2 that you go after, you're never going to be able to get to the core of our financial problems problems if you don't go touch these programs.

Speaker 2 That being said, what he is offering to do here is not touching these programs. He's saying, look, we're not going to give Social Security benefits to illegal aliens.
Or dead people. Or dead people.

Speaker 2 Or people who haven't been born for another hundred years.

Speaker 2 Those types of things. It seems rational.

Speaker 5 It does. It does, but it's not to the left for some reason.
But they also discussed, of course, tariffs and China.

Speaker 7 You're not dropping the tariffs against China to get them to the negotiating table. Those tariffs are staying on.
Why would I do that?

Speaker 2 Would you lower them?

Speaker 8 At some point, I'm going to lower them because otherwise you could never do business with them.

Speaker 8 And they want to do business very much. Look, their economy is really doing badly.
Their economy is collapsing.

Speaker 2 Okay. That's true.
I mean, a lot of people, we focus on the harms that have happened to the United States since all this stuff started, but it's really bad for China. I mean, we are their market.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So it is really hurting them a lot.
Yeah. And

Speaker 5 they're going to have to make a deal, you know, probably sooner than we do. Although, they hold some cards.

Speaker 5 They're not like Vladimir Zelensky, who have no cards. I mean, they do have the medication card and they have the rare earth minerals card.

Speaker 5 And those are pretty impressive cards to hold at this particular time.

Speaker 2 They also have the card that if

Speaker 2 they want, they can just let millions of their own people die, which is an interesting card to

Speaker 2 do. And they play

Speaker 2 frequently. They'll just kind of play it throughout history.
Hey, wait, but if you do this, 20 million of your people will die. So? Yeah.
That's kind of been their answer historically.

Speaker 2 So we'll see if that changes at all. Because, I mean, they don't have the political pressures that our president has to deal with.
Right. You know,

Speaker 2 it is one of those things where they,

Speaker 2 you know, there's that kind of standard trope of, oh, well, you know, the Middle East and, you know,

Speaker 2 the Chinese think things in much longer terms, right? They don't think of it in two to four year cycles like our political environment. Like centuries in advance.
Exactly. At the very least, a decade.

Speaker 2 And I think they think they can hold out longer than us. The question, I mean, at some level, this is

Speaker 2 a beneficial relationship

Speaker 2 between us. You know,

Speaker 2 both countries do benefit at some level, in certain areas at least, from this relationship.

Speaker 2 I would much rather be in business with a country like India. Me too.
You know, when you, you know, like if we can get a

Speaker 2 someone friendly towards us to make our stuff, yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, some of it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 I think everybody acknowledges not everything needs to be made in the United States. We don't need to be North Korea.
North Korea has everything, you know, mostly at least insular

Speaker 2 and made within their country.

Speaker 2 You'd be surprised to hear that it's not going well.

Speaker 2 Look at the maps.

Speaker 2 Have you ever seen the overhead picture from the satellites of North Korea and South Korea? That's what happens when you have absolutely no relationships outside the country.

Speaker 2 You know, that's not to say that everything needs to be moved here. That's not what Trump is even arguing.

Speaker 2 But it is a situation where

Speaker 2 if we have these, the tariffs at this level are essentially an embargo, right? Like we're just not going to have any relationship at all.

Speaker 2 Like I I was listening to some guy who runs a shoe company and I guess they do their manufacturing in

Speaker 2 China and they charge, I think, $175 for their high-end shoes or whatever they are. And with the tariffs, they're now going to be like $350 of tariffs on each pair of shoes.
Wow.

Speaker 2 Because I think the shoe, his shoe, he said the percentage was 175% or something like that.

Speaker 2 Because it is different. Everyone's saying it's $145.
It's different in all different areas. Squid is super high.
If you're importing your squid from China, oh my gosh, the squid price is Pat.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you've been.

Speaker 5 We don't have any squid in our cookies.

Speaker 2 Kecksi doesn't have a squid cookie?

Speaker 5 Not a single squid cookie.

Speaker 2 Well, that's okay then. You'll be okay.
What a relief. But all your competitors, which by the way, I don't know if people know this.
All other cookie companies, most of it is squid. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Most of the recipe, the batter, is made of

Speaker 2 squid. Yeah.
I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Not positive.
I don't name the companies for legal reasons, but like most of them just import Chinese squid

Speaker 2 from the shores of Wuhan. Right directly into their cookies.
Even though there's not really shores. And they put them directly into the cookies.
That's why I prefer Kexi. Thank you.
Myself, Pat.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I just don't want to eat squid.

Speaker 5 It's completely squid-free.

Speaker 2 Wow, really?

Speaker 2 Yeah, every cookie squid-free. That's quite a statement, I hope that.

Speaker 5 That's a promise that I can solidly make.

Speaker 2 You cleared that with legal? I did. Okay, good.
I did.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 if you're going with other cookie guys, wow, your product is going to go through the roof. Yep.
It's Wuhan squid all day long.

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Speaker 5 There was more discussion about tariffs between President Trump and Kristen Welker on Meet the Press yesterday. Here's how that went.

Speaker 7 Sir, you acknowledge when you announced your tariffs, for example, the stock market dropped. It's been volatile.
It has since gone up.

Speaker 7 Do you take responsibility

Speaker 2 for that? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Do you take responsibility when it drops?

Speaker 8 Ultimately, I take responsibility for everything, but I've only just been here for a little more than three months.

Speaker 8 But the stock market, look at what's happened in the last short period of time. Didn't it have nine or ten days in a row or 11 days where it's gone up? And the tariffs have just started kicking in.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 8 we're doing really well psychologically. I mean, the fake news was giving me such press on the tariffs.
The tariffs are going to make us rich. We're going to be a very rich country.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 All right. I like it.

Speaker 5 And yes, the stock market's been up nine straight days, I believe, right? Isn't that, I don't know where the futures market is headed right now, but it was up for nine straight days.

Speaker 5 And it's, it's nearly made up for the losses that it had

Speaker 5 from the beginning. So

Speaker 2 when are we measuring this from? The

Speaker 2 from

Speaker 5 the beginning of the losses.

Speaker 2 So the beginning of the losses, I would not say that that's happening.

Speaker 2 We haven't. So if you go, I guess if you go to the beat, if you go to the beat, I'm just looking at the chart here as we're speaking.

Speaker 2 I was on vacation last week, so I did not follow the markets at all.

Speaker 2 Do people do that? Do people follow the markets when they're on vacation? I don't know. I do not.
I try not to. I do not.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I guess if you're kind of going from April 1st,

Speaker 2 which was he put them on April 2nd, right? They went into effect April 2nd. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Which would not hold some of the previous

Speaker 2 losses into, wouldn't count those. But if you kind of just take it from that day, it was at 40,000, let's see, 42,000, and we're back to like 41,000.
So it's it's close. Yeah, it's pretty close.

Speaker 2 It was as low as

Speaker 2 38

Speaker 5 right around the center. But it was as high as, what, 45 at one point? Yeah, it was,

Speaker 2 yeah, 45.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, we're a little off of that, Mark. Sure.
I mean, we're well off of the highs, but

Speaker 2 from when these things kicked in, they've regained most of their losses, which is great.

Speaker 5 That is great.

Speaker 2 And hopefully that will continue.

Speaker 2 I mean, again, like, I think it's a fair thing. You know, when the markets were down, Trump was saying, well, you can't just look at the markets, which I think is fair.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. It is

Speaker 2 a long-term projection of where the economy is going, not necessarily what's important on a day-to-day, right? Yes. You know, you have to look at those things in longer-term, I think, chunks.

Speaker 5 And we all knew that, okay, initially there's going to be some pain.

Speaker 5 Some prices are going to go up on some things

Speaker 5 until we reach some deals and things kind of even out. So yeah, initially there's going to be some problems.
There's going going to be a little volatility in the market

Speaker 5 and prices are going to go up. And

Speaker 5 there, I mean, the thing now is that he just said over the weekend that instead of getting 30 dolls for your kids for Christmas, you might get two or three, meaning that the toy manufacturing that is done in China is going to slow down for us.

Speaker 5 So if you're looking for Christmas gifts, now might be a good time to get them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we haven't seen any of the price increases yet. No.
Right. I mean,

Speaker 2 largely, and we saw this in the economic report that came out

Speaker 2 with the GDP being down. It was part of that was a lot of people importing goods in advance of

Speaker 2 the tariffs, right? So people loaded up. Like I've talked to a couple of business owners who are like, we just loaded up on stocks.

Speaker 2 So we just filled our warehouse with stuff pre-tariff, which will last us a couple of months before these prices start going up. and then they're going to have to start dealing with it.

Speaker 2 So, you know, that's those are all, it's going to be fun. It's going to be an interesting time.
It's going to be fun. It's going to be an interesting time.
That's a good way to look at it.

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Speaker 2 Glenn turned me onto that approach a couple years ago, and it works for me every time. Yeah.

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Speaker 5 Been going over some of the things the president had to say on Meet the Press yesterday with Kristen Welker.

Speaker 2 He keeps going on these shows.

Speaker 5 At least they can't say he's ducking them because he's not.

Speaker 2 No, he loves this stuff.

Speaker 5 He does love this. He loves this.

Speaker 2 He loves

Speaker 2 defeating these people.

Speaker 2 He does. It's like, I feel like with him, it's like he has his job.
And then I think we all have like things that we do on the side for fun. This is what he does on the side for fun.

Speaker 2 I think that's accurate. He just likes it.

Speaker 5 He does.

Speaker 2 He likes torturing these people.

Speaker 2 He does it well. He does do it well.
He does.

Speaker 5 He was asked about the possibility of a recession. Here's what he had to say about that.

Speaker 7 Some people on Wall Street have expressed concerns that the possibility of a recession is increasing. And I want to know what you think about that.

Speaker 7 Are you comfortable with the country potentially dipping into a recession for a period of time if you are able to achieve your long-term goals?

Speaker 8 Well, you know, you say some people on Wall Street say, well, I tell you something else. Some people on Wall Street say that we're going to have the greatest economy in history.

Speaker 8 Why don't you talk about them? Because some people on Wall Street say this is great.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm getting at.

Speaker 7 That's what I'm getting at, though.

Speaker 8 There are many people on Wall Street who say this is going to be the greatest windfall ever happened.

Speaker 5 I love that. Because she doesn't ask it that way, because that wouldn't be a negative spin on it.

Speaker 5 So of course

Speaker 5 she could talk about the negative Wall Street people

Speaker 5 who say that we could go into a recession or a depression. That's what she wants wants to hear about.

Speaker 5 It's agonizing every time. But

Speaker 5 he turns it around nicely. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, for sure. I mean, again, I don't know, you know,

Speaker 2 when he got in trouble for saying back in the day, like, oh, well, they're not sending us our best across the border.

Speaker 2 If you remember that controversy, I think the same thing is applying to the media these days. I mean, this can't be their best.

Speaker 2 Right?

Speaker 2 Like, this is, this is. No, this is what they keep throwing at him.
Yeah, apparently. But

Speaker 2 he really, I think, does just relish these moments. No, I think you're right.

Speaker 2 It's like a nice distraction from him, which I would assume is a very difficult job of being actually president of the United States. And this is part of the gig, but it's the fun part of the gig.

Speaker 5 For him, it is. Yeah, he likes it.
A lot don't like it. No.
A lot of people would not enjoy this particular aspect of it.

Speaker 2 I think it's smart part of it.

Speaker 5 Biden never wanted to be challenged, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 No. And you know, Trump didn't do an awful lot of this during the campaign, interestingly.
They sent J.D. Vance out to these,

Speaker 2 most of these interviews, and Trump did a lot of the podcast stuff, if you remember during the campaign, which was also a very workable strategy. It worked really well.
I mean, J.D.

Speaker 2 Vance was really good in these moments, and

Speaker 2 Trump was, I think, really likable in the podcast.

Speaker 2 So they could go back to that whenever they feel like it. But I mean, he wants to dip his toes in, too.

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 2 this is just, you know, this is the stuff that I think he loves. He loves this sort of jousting.

Speaker 5 He got a little help, too, from an unexpected source.

Speaker 5 On Bill Maher, Kevin McCarthy appeared, and Bill Maher was kind of talking the president down and the economy down. And Kevin McCarthy kind of jumped in and

Speaker 2 really defended him.

Speaker 9 Also, the first hundred days, and you know, this is traditionally what they call the president's honeymoon. You know, presidents do big things in the first hundred days.
Obama did Obamacare.

Speaker 9 Biden had the infrastructure thing because you really, you get a brief honeymoon.

Speaker 9 So

Speaker 9 this is the honeymoon. What is the rest of this marriage going to look like? Because

Speaker 9 I just want to read some of the stats. I read some of them in the monologues.
7% is the S ⁇ P 500 is down.

Speaker 9 Economy has shrunk for the first time in three years. Value of the dollar is down 10%.
Consumer confidence down. Trucking volume starting to tank.

Speaker 9 Jamie Dimon says the best case scenario is a recession. UPS is cutting 20,000 jobs because they expect less packages to be delivered.
Even McDonald's is down 3.6 percent.

Speaker 9 Goldman Sachs says we will experience the lowest economic growth and the highest inflation of any big boy country in 2025, even empty seats at Beyoncé's concert.

Speaker 9 I guess what I'm asking is, Kevin,

Speaker 9 So everybody knows something except Trump, or is it the other way around?

Speaker 2 We're all wrong and he's got it right?

Speaker 10 We're not all wrong, but this is the point you, a couple things you didn't mention. This is a stock market up for the first time nine straight days.

Speaker 10 That's only happened eight times in the last 25 years.

Speaker 9 Up from where it was way down.

Speaker 10 But you haven't been every single day for nine straight days. That's only happened 31 times in 97 years.

Speaker 9 And why did that happen, I'm asking?

Speaker 2 Well...

Speaker 10 I think we've gotten over that we know the tariffs are in negotiation. It's not going to stay this way.
I think people are seeing the investment coming coming back.

Speaker 10 You look at the jobs numbers today, it's surpassed the second time. And if you read into the job numbers,

Speaker 10 9,000 jobs were cut in government, but the private sector has grown. So he's doing a disruption, but you're seeing kind of a little

Speaker 10 light at the end of the tunnel. Now, if they get in the next 60 days a couple trade agreements, I think you're going to see this market take off.

Speaker 5 That's an unexpected place to find a little support for the president.

Speaker 2 Although Trump backed McCarthy in that battle. That is true.

Speaker 2 He did. They weren't enemies.

Speaker 2 He was more of an enemy, I think, of the rank and file.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 a lot of the conservative

Speaker 2 members of Congress didn't like him very much. And a lot of some conservative voters didn't like him very much.
But him and Trump got a lot of people. That is true.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he did support him for Speaker.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Did support him for Speaker, did support him in that battle with Schwann obviously going to Johnson then later.

Speaker 2 We don't know where this is, this is why you just can't freak out about this stuff, right? Like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 Look, I don't know that the stock market being up for nine days is that big of a deal, frankly. It's like

Speaker 2 it wasn't a, I don't think it was a big, big deal when it went down either. You know, I think

Speaker 2 it evens out. It evens out.
I think, look, there's a long-term approach here that you have to take, I think, if you really want to know about the long-term health of the economy.

Speaker 2 Again, I mean, tariffs are not my favorite policy.

Speaker 2 We've been clear about that for many, many years. But I don't think that it's not the type of thing that, you know, when you're talking about a long-term economic destruction,

Speaker 2 you can have that type of policy. If what McCarthy's saying is accurate, that this is just a negotiation.

Speaker 2 And I don't know if, do you think, are you comfortable with that analysis of the situation yet, Pat? Like, this is just going to be a negotiation. This is all going to go away.

Speaker 2 I mean, that's not what Trump is saying. No, it's not.
Where are we getting that from?

Speaker 5 We're just guessing, I think.

Speaker 2 I don't know where that's that's coming from. I know.

Speaker 2 We're hoping. There have been like rumblings.
Sometimes Besson kind of seems like he's saying that it's just a negotiation.

Speaker 5 But Trump kind of put that to rest over the weekend when he said, look, these are permanent in most cases because otherwise, why are they going to move their manufacturing plants here?

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 5 He said it himself.

Speaker 2 He said it himself a lot of times. And I feel like there is a contingency on the right that doesn't particularly like tariffs and is convincing themselves that this is what he's doing.

Speaker 2 But when he's saying the opposite, I mean, he seems to be dedicated to this idea that you can bring these jobs back, or at least some of them back.

Speaker 2 And if that is true, that doesn't happen in a week or two weeks or nine straight days. It happens over 10 years.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 if that's what he's trying to do, which is what his stated goal is, right? And he keeps saying that he wants to do this, then I would say that these things probably are in

Speaker 2 effect for a long time. And forget the China one, because that one at 145%, I think, seems so ridiculously high that it's likely that

Speaker 2 it won't stay there.

Speaker 2 I think it's likely that one comes back down to earth. But the others where you've got 10, 20, 30% on various industries.

Speaker 2 Probably stay and are probably just...

Speaker 2 you know, long-term, eventually long-term price increases that the economy is going to have to deal with. That's not something that's going to destroy the economy and make all of us have no jobs.

Speaker 2 But it's going to be a strain on the economy. It's going to slow things down.
And if it doesn't, then jobs don't move.

Speaker 2 You can't have both of those things.

Speaker 2 It's not like, oh, well, it's going to bring all this money in and also it's a negotiation. Oh, it's going to bring all these jobs back, but actually we're going to dissolve it in two weeks.

Speaker 2 Like none of that, those things don't make sense together.

Speaker 2 And I feel like there's like what Trump is saying and what a bunch of Republicans who don't like the Trump policy are saying, like McCarthy, I would put into that category.

Speaker 2 He probably isn't a tariff guy. And I don't remember exactly, but I don't think he's been a tariff guy.
I've been on, you know, on record being super supportive of that policy.

Speaker 2 So like the people who don't like it are just kind of like self-internalizing this thing that it's just a negotiation, which I don't think there's a lot of evidence to support that.

Speaker 2 I hope it is, by the way. I hope it is just a negotiation and we get great deals out of it and we can kind of go on and

Speaker 2 things improve.

Speaker 2 But I don't, it doesn't seem like that's what Trump is doing. At least, at least, you know, he wants to be a good idea.
Judging by the words that comes out of his mouth,

Speaker 5 he wants things to be made in America again.

Speaker 2 And I think that's his ultimate goal. I think it's a legitimate goal and a heartfelt goal.
I think it is.

Speaker 2 He loves America.

Speaker 5 He wants things to be made here.

Speaker 5 And it's a reasonable

Speaker 2 goal.

Speaker 5 And what other way is there to reach that that goal than what he's doing right now?

Speaker 2 Well, one way I would say is incentivizing, right? Not just,

Speaker 2 and I think that is, by the way, part of his plan. It just hasn't had the attention that the other part has.

Speaker 2 And I think incentivizing and making business better to do here rather than worse to do overseas, they both kind of work in conjunction. But like, it's certainly a much more politically,

Speaker 2 you know, we were talking about the Medicare stuff earlier. Like there's a political way to go there that is beneficial to you.

Speaker 2 I think, with both of these things being part of his policy, the more emphasis he can put on saying, hey, we're going to cut taxes for companies coming in here.

Speaker 2 We're going to make business to do, you know,

Speaker 2 and he is doing it, but it's not getting the attention. And, you know, a lot of that's the media.
But a lot of it is he likes tariffs too. So he talks about them a lot.

Speaker 5 And mentioned the fact that he does like tariffs.

Speaker 2 I mean, basically, what he's saying is, we're going to increase taxes on companies doing business overseas, and we're going to decrease taxes on companies doing business here.

Speaker 2 Only one of those two policies is getting any attention right now. And I think for his political benefit, I mean, like, you know, we're at a situation now where

Speaker 2 very quickly people are saying, you know, this is a quite, if you remember, I always remember this with George W.

Speaker 2 Bush because they would always say, that's still Bush's fault when like three years into the Obama administration, we're like, really? He's still running the economy? Think about that.

Speaker 2 How long did that go on? Two, three years after? Even longer. Even longer.
I mean, even into, if I remember, into his second term, people were still saying this is actually Bush's fault. Yes.

Speaker 2 The American people have already said, now this is the Trump economy in poll after poll after poll. In three months.
In three months. It's already.
Now, again, a lot of this is the media.

Speaker 2 But like Trump's already got responsibility to the American people on this one.

Speaker 2 And, you know, when you think about all the really good things that we talk about all the time that Trump is doing and wants to do, you know, protecting that economic wall is really important when it comes to your presidency.

Speaker 2 He knows that, obviously. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But that's why I just think, emphasis-wise, talking about those really good things he's doing on the regulation side and on the tax side and the business environment side here in America is really crucial for him to make that transition here at some point.

Speaker 2 I think so too. And I don't know if it's the big beautiful bill that does that, but that is, I think, right around the corner.
To me, the sooner the better.

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Glenn is out this

Speaker 2 today and tomorrow already. He comes back Wednesday.

Speaker 5 Back Wednesday.

Speaker 2 Although, I will say, I think he's been working a lot because he posts more on social media when he's on vacation than when he's off of it.

Speaker 5 It does seem that way.

Speaker 2 How do I know everything about his vacation already? Yeah. I don't even have to ask him any questions.
What'd you do? I don't know.

Speaker 2 He was in Italy and he did all sorts of really incredible things there. He's good.
He's been shopping.

Speaker 5 They've gone all over the country.

Speaker 2 He takes vacations differently, too, than I do.

Speaker 2 Yes. You know, one interesting thing I noticed from Glenn's vacation pictures is he's never taking them.

Speaker 2 There's always somebody else, some other.

Speaker 2 Is he being stalked? I'm concerned. There's always someone there taking pictures of him walking through a shop

Speaker 2 you'd almost think he's got people do people with him you'd almost think that right but I'm sure he's just getting another tourist and saying hey would you would you mind photographing us hey I'm gonna me and my wife are gonna walk through the store will you take pictures of us from behind

Speaker 2 sure

Speaker 2 that happens all the time all the time all the time

Speaker 2 it does seem like a nice trip though I will say it seems like he's seemed nice it seems like he's done you know Glenn's done well with him.

Speaker 2 Especially considering the middling level of talent he has. It's incredible that he's been able to achieve all the things that he has.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it is. Radio Hall of Fame member.
Did you know that? What? He's in the Radio Hall of Fame. Holy shit.
He'll tell you about it if you ask him. Really? Or if you don't.

Speaker 2 What if I don't want to hear it? You'll still tell you. He'll still let you know about it constantly.
He tells people. I'm sure a bunch of Italian tourists heard the story.
Yeah, they all know.

Speaker 2 They all know.

Speaker 2 all right i've gone through an entire week without having to bust on glenn so i have to yeah you got to get it out somehow they got to get it out

Speaker 2 no one wanted to hear it on vacation no one wanted to hear all my insults

Speaker 2 there's almost no market for it at all outside of this show what would i do in the weird show my only marketable skill is making fun of glenn

Speaker 2 and it's only really marketable right right here like in this room yes everywhere else it's a different no one cares at all no so i could always, I guess I could always go into the mainstream media.

Speaker 2 Insulting Glenn does pay off in the mainstream media. I could get a gig there.

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Speaker 2 It's fun to be back, Pat. I feel like I, you know, you get into that vacation mode a little bit.
You lose the, you know,

Speaker 2 you're not following every little bit of news. You come back in, you jump right back into it.
It's fun.

Speaker 5 And it's almost like you never left.

Speaker 2 It's almost like you never left. Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2 There's a lot to talk about, I will say. There is.

Speaker 2 Never a shortage. No.
You know,

Speaker 2 there might be things that become scarce. It's not going to be news.
There's plenty of that to talk about today.

Speaker 2 In fact, maybe we'll get into this at some point today. The Trump doing something really positive on student loans, which is making people pay them.

Speaker 2 That is really positive. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 I think it's unfair, though, Pat. I listened to all this news coverage on on this

Speaker 2 over the past 24 hours that people who took out these loans may have to pay them back. This could be rough for them.

Speaker 5 Oh, no. Could it?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Could it? Yeah.

Speaker 2 But they agreed. They agreed to pay it back.
Of course they did. And pay it back.

Speaker 2 And many of them have the money to pay them back, have just decided not to pay it.

Speaker 5 But they'd rather spend it somewhere else.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they'd rather

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Speaker 5 Ah, boy.

Speaker 5 Some Some news on student loans.

Speaker 2 I'll share that with you. Also,

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Speaker 5 Oh, you know who's mean? Donald J. Trump.

Speaker 2 Yeah. He's mean.
I've been hearing about that in the,

Speaker 2 you know, even on vacation, Pat, that one broke through. Well, it has to.
He's mean.

Speaker 5 He's actually making people

Speaker 5 pay back the student loan

Speaker 5 that they agreed to pay back.

Speaker 2 And what did they do to get this punishment? Right? All they did was sign a paper.

Speaker 5 They got a loan and signed paperwork that said they wanted.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they got the money. They went to school.

Speaker 2 They graduated.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 They built up this debt, and now they're expected to pay it back.

Speaker 2 Not all of it. No.

Speaker 2 Not at the agreed upon terms. No.
Of course, obviously.

Speaker 2 Not actually.

Speaker 5 Why should you pay back your entire debt?

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 who even believes you should do that?

Speaker 5 What kind of Cretan would you have to be? Is it Cretin or Cretan?

Speaker 2 I'm going to go with Cretan.

Speaker 5 I'm going to go with Cretan, too, but Cretin, I don't know, for some reason sounds even worse.

Speaker 2 It sounds worse. It sounds more judgmental.
It does. And it is.

Speaker 5 Because these are Cretins that would make you pay back. Your entire agreed-upon loan.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well, and not everybody, we should be clear.

Speaker 2 Oh, and not everybody. Not everybody.
No. Okay.
Like, for example, you know, if you don't have a job,

Speaker 2 you know, if you say you have no income,

Speaker 5 you don't have to pay it back right now.

Speaker 2 Oh. No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no. That's good.
In fact,

Speaker 2 they are going to limit how much of your salary you would have to pay back to, I believe, 15%.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 you know, if your payment would go above that 15%, you just don't pay that extra part at this time. Okay.

Speaker 2 And by the way, we should also note that it's a minor distinction here. You have had five straight years of not having to pay.
Right. So that's, you know, I don't know what you could do with that.

Speaker 2 There's that. There are some ideas I might have.

Speaker 2 If someone were to say, hey, you're just going to suspend the payments for five years, perhaps you could utilize that time to build up a little bit of that money you would have given to the loan to put it aside to pay the loan back later.

Speaker 2 That's one approach. But as we know.
But that's crazy.

Speaker 5 That's nuts. You can't expect people to do that.
They had to spend it on something they'd rather do along the way, you know, those last five years. Exactly.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 What if they wanted to go to a movie and go out to dinner or maybe go to the south of France with that money? Yeah.

Speaker 2 You can't expect them not to. That's true.
Right? Right. Yeah.
You know, and I'm concerned, Pat, because of all this COVID-19 going around.

Speaker 2 Have you heard about this? It's a virus. 19? Yeah, it was a virus.
It was started when a bat mated with a pangolin in a soup.

Speaker 5 I hate when that happens.

Speaker 2 In a Wuhan sanguine. So it's bat pengolin soup? Yeah, bat pangolin soup.
Delicious. There was a mating ritual

Speaker 2 that occurred when they made the broth.

Speaker 2 It's not something you want to think about. I'll tell you that.
I don't. I really don't.

Speaker 2 But somebody had a big old bowl of it. And now they're spreading it all over the world.
There's a virus. It's all over the place.

Speaker 2 And luckily, because of that, we took action. Yeah.
And we said, hey, you don't have to pay your loans back

Speaker 2 until all virus goes away, I think, was the plan.

Speaker 2 When there is no more sickness on earth, then you have to pay it back.

Speaker 2 But right now, there's still sickness, and this Donald Trump guy, who, by the way, is the person who implemented the initial policy,

Speaker 2 is saying maybe, maybe that policy is, maybe we should stop that policy now that COVID-19 isn't really a factor in our lives anymore.

Speaker 2 So mean. That's the best summary of it, Pat.
Thank you. This guy is mean for making you pay your bills.

Speaker 5 How dare he? How dare he?

Speaker 5 did I get my education?

Speaker 2 Yes. Are you taking the benefits of that education and utilizing it in the workforce? Sure, of course.

Speaker 2 Of course. At the point, I should have pay it back.
Right.

Speaker 5 Because that's a hardship on me now.

Speaker 2 Right. That gives me less.
I should also say if you could prove financial hardship, you don't have to pay it back. Oh, okay.
Well, that should be easy. Well, I mean,

Speaker 2 it should be at least part of the process, I would say. Wow.
Because what's happened now, Pat, is you have this

Speaker 2 pause for, yes, and I'm being serious. It's for COVID-19.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 And it's been five years.

Speaker 2 Five years that you didn't have to pay your loans back.

Speaker 2 And of course, obviously, we all know that Joe Biden tried to unconstitutionally codify this and basically say no one has to pay their loans back.

Speaker 5 And he ignored the Supreme Court order that

Speaker 2 multiple times. Multiple times.
And tried to put it in multiple different ways. And some of them have been overturned.
Some of them have not yet been overturned.

Speaker 2 But a lot of these people who believe that their loans have been forgiven may have that reversed in the future.

Speaker 5 Oh, no. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 Well, it would suck.

Speaker 2 It would suck if someone came to your house and said, hey, by the way,

Speaker 2 you no longer have a mortgage. So you stop paying the mortgage and you move on with your life.
You're like, wow, now I have this money.

Speaker 2 And then they come back and say, actually, your mortgage is back on. That does kind of suck for those people.
It does. It does.

Speaker 2 It's a ridiculous.

Speaker 5 Perhaps you shouldn't have been told your mortgage was off

Speaker 5 in the first place.

Speaker 2 When it was totally unconstitutional. Right.
Okay. That's an interesting approach.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But yeah, now we're talking about, and you think about, I heard this stat this morning, which I couldn't believe. Because obviously, like,

Speaker 2 suck out all of my sarcasm here for a moment and my belief that when you enter. If we take out all the

Speaker 2 sarcasm, we don't have anything left. We were just silent for the past eight minutes.
Oops.

Speaker 2 So if you like sarcasm, this is the show for you. Yes.

Speaker 2 But let's suck out the sarcasm for a minute and suck out my, and I believe your as well, Pat, belief that when you enter into agreement you should fulfill that agreement okay so if you say i'm going to take a loan out and get the benefits of that loan perhaps you should pay it back

Speaker 2 i just believe that's like a moral

Speaker 2 right

Speaker 2 okay okay that's i just think that's the truth and that's the way the our society should operate but suck that out for a moment and think about like the real world situation, right?

Speaker 2 You had a situation where the economy shut down. It was not necessarily a person's fault that they couldn't go to work.

Speaker 2 You know, like people, the government came to them and said, hey, screw you guys. You can't go into the office anymore.
And millions of people lost their jobs. True.
Right.

Speaker 5 So not to that. So it made sense at first.

Speaker 2 It made sense for a while. Right.
Okay. Yeah, I can go with that.
Turn that back on. You probably do have some people who

Speaker 2 were unable to just restart their careers. This is one of the reasons why we opposed those policies back by the, by the way, back then.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But like people who, you know,

Speaker 2 wanted to

Speaker 2 maybe can't jump back into life at the same level. Maybe they have a lot of leftover bills in other areas where they, you know, they still are paying.

Speaker 2 Maybe they had a job at a certain level of a company. The company had to close or they got fired.
They can't get that same job.

Speaker 2 Like, I think there is a. Some of it makes sense.
Some of it makes sense. And

Speaker 2 even five years out, there are probably cases where

Speaker 2 some relief would be understandable.

Speaker 2 Right? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That being said, what percentage of people have started repaying their loans? Now, think about it. There have been really good economic times mixed in.

Speaker 2 Some industries have had really, really good times.

Speaker 2 Obviously, some of the people who had loans in 2020 have succeeded, have moved on, have great jobs, are making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Yes.

Speaker 2 What percentage of people have started to repay their loans that had them when the pause pause began.

Speaker 2 Any idea?

Speaker 2 20%.

Speaker 2 I would think it would be

Speaker 2 80%.

Speaker 2 Would you think 80%? Let's just think of like real-world scenarios. Now, 80 is low because obviously 20%.

Speaker 5 Because of the way you've set this up, I'm thinking pretty low. Pretty low.
Where are my 20%?

Speaker 2 I believe the number is one-third.

Speaker 5 Okay, so it's about 30%?

Speaker 2 About 30 to 33%.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 you're telling me, I want to make sure I understand it, 67 percent of the people who had a pause, who got a pause initially, cannot make those loan payments? And the answer to that, of course, is no.

Speaker 2 A lot of them can make them. In fact, we know it because of the economic data.
These people make plenty of money and can make these payments back

Speaker 2 and can make the payments.

Speaker 2 Why aren't they making the payments?

Speaker 2 They don't want to. When given the option, first of all, why would you pay them, right? Like, if people say, hey, actually, you don't have to pay them, most people are just not going to pay them.

Speaker 5 And they've come to expect it now. And they've come to expect it.
Because of Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 That's true. And they've been told that these are going to be relief.
So they're probably sitting back thinking to themselves, well, what if these payments get

Speaker 2 forgiven later on? And that's the thing that I think is the central problem here. Right.

Speaker 2 Is that in reality, with all my criticism built in here, it's actually kind of dumb to have made payments because at any point under these circumstances might be wasted. You're right.
You're right.

Speaker 2 Right. You're going to give it to the system and then two weeks later, they're going to tell you you don't have to make any payments.

Speaker 2 I mean, if I were in that situation, I'd be like, well, wait a minute. Until they tell me I have to make them, why would I make them?

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 2 Especially when you've got one guy who's up on the stage until he became so dementia riddled, they just dropped him, telling you that they're going to be forgiven and you're never going to have to pay them.

Speaker 2 What happened to those people who paid their last payment in February 2020? All those people got screwed. Yeah, they did.
Right? They got screwed. They paid back.

Speaker 2 Which is what we said in the beginning. Yeah.

Speaker 5 What about everybody who has faithfully paid back these loans because they were supposed to, and now they see everybody else being told, yeah,

Speaker 5 you don't have to worry about it. Well, are you going to pay me back my student loan?

Speaker 2 No, those people just get screwed. Yep.
And, you know,

Speaker 2 what is Trump doing

Speaker 2 with this approach? He's saying, hey, you know what? Not the truck driver's responsibility to pay for your college education, which, by the way, we should point out is just a giant subsidy.

Speaker 2 This loan program in and of itself is a giant subsidy to

Speaker 2 what wind up being upper middle class people who get college degrees. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's people who don't have college degrees paying for the education of people who will wind up being their bosses potentially later on, which makes absolutely no sense.

Speaker 5 Oh, man.

Speaker 2 It is an absolutely ridiculous thing.

Speaker 5 So do we know what the exact percentage of people who will be asked to pay it back is?

Speaker 2 It's not 100%. I mean, it's not.

Speaker 5 It's certainly not 100%.

Speaker 2 Basically, if you can go to the government and say, I have financial

Speaker 2 hardship.

Speaker 5 I can't do this.

Speaker 2 You have to.

Speaker 5 But it won't be forgiven forever, though, right? You'll just be given a grace period.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And

Speaker 2 at least in theory. Yeah.
But again, where, where,

Speaker 2 and Trump is probably the only guy who would do this, but what politicians have the balls to step in and say, okay, well, no, you have to pay it now.

Speaker 2 Like, usually what happens is they say, well, okay, we'll give you more time. That's usually what happens.
What we're going to do is just print more money or borrow it from China.

Speaker 5 Because the mainstream media will paint you as mean.

Speaker 2 As they have. You're mean.

Speaker 5 And they have, and they will.

Speaker 5 So,

Speaker 5 but if there's anybody who can stand up to that, I mean, it's Donald J. Trump.
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Speaker 2 This student loan thing is insane.

Speaker 5 You were

Speaker 2 talking off the air. We were talking a bit off the air there about what the payment is.
So the way they have it set up is the maximum amount you would have to pay of your income is 15%.

Speaker 5 No matter how much you make. No matter how much you make.

Speaker 2 So obviously if you make a million dollars a year, your payment, you'll make whatever payment you were scheduled to make initially.

Speaker 2 It's never going to go higher than what you were initially supposed to pay.

Speaker 2 But if you have a job that pays you $100 a month and that's it, and you're only working a few hours, the most you can pay is $15.

Speaker 5 $15. That's it.

Speaker 2 So basically, 15% is the maximum of your salary. So if you don't have a job, again, everybody in the media is like, oh, well, what about these people that don't have jobs, can't make these payments?

Speaker 2 If you don't have a job, you literally can't make a payment because it's 15% of your income. So if you have no income, you can't make a payment at all.
They will not require you to make a payment.

Speaker 2 Now, obviously, there are people that have all their bills and other expenses. This is an expensive society, and we had to go through Bidenflation, right?

Speaker 2 This is a society that is strained when it comes to economics.

Speaker 2 If you just have to pay 15%,

Speaker 2 an additional 15%, essentially tax, as you might see it, on your income, it's going to be a lot harder to make ends meet for a lot of people.

Speaker 2 So it's not that there's no impact here, but again, it's part of your...

Speaker 2 I don't know when you enter into an arrangement.

Speaker 5 Well, this is where

Speaker 5 the term predatory loans came in years ago. They started doing this predatory loan thing.

Speaker 5 Bank managers were going out into the street and putting a gun to people's heads and saying, you must take out a $100,000 loan for college.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Where do I sign?

Speaker 2 These are the least predatory loans of all time. They're all at lower rates than you could get in the

Speaker 2 free market.

Speaker 5 They all have to come from the government now, right?

Speaker 2 A lot of them do. Yeah, most of them.

Speaker 5 Almost all of them are from the government. And so

Speaker 2 who's the predator here?

Speaker 5 I guess, is the government tracking people down and forcing them to take out student loans? I don't think so.

Speaker 5 You know, as we've talked about so many times, the unfairness of this, There were so many people in the past who worked their way through college or worked leading up to college.

Speaker 2 Or decided they couldn't afford the loan and decided not to go to college and didn't get those benefits of that education, which, again, the education at this point is somewhat questionable when it comes to benefits.

Speaker 2 But the accreditation certainly is there.

Speaker 2 If you get that degree, it certainly can help you in the workforce.

Speaker 2 Whether it helps you in regular life or whether you actually got educated at the university seems to be unrelated to the fact of whether you have the piece of paper or not.

Speaker 2 But I mean, I think of how many people do that. I mean, that was one of the reasons I decided not to go that route.
And I was like, you know, it's so expensive. I don't want to be $100,000 in debt.

Speaker 2 I'd rather go into the industry that I want to be in, which I knew was this.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 you have that approach.

Speaker 5 And this, if you graduated from elementary school, you're pretty much overeducated to begin with. Oh, my God.
In this particular industry,

Speaker 2 knowing words hurts you in this industry.

Speaker 2 Certainly, knowing how to pronounce them, as Glenn has proven. If you know how to pronounce words or names, you can't go into the Radio Hall of Fame.

Speaker 5 No. No.

Speaker 2 So.

Speaker 2 The free pass to get into the Radio Hall of Fame starts with mispronouncing everybody's name that you're currently talking to. It does.
In the middle of the interview.

Speaker 5 So that's

Speaker 2 convenient. It is.
For a lot of us. It is.
It's great for us. It's for us really well.
It's great for us. But it is a real thing.
Like you make that decision.

Speaker 2 I remember thinking, because I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh, and I would listen to him. This is, you know, and I was a cool, a really cool kid listening to Rush Limbaugh in high school.

Speaker 2 And I remember him talking about, you know, what, what a bad deal college wound up being for so many people.

Speaker 2 Because you take, you go, you're, at that point, it was probably more like $30,000 or $40,000 of debt, but you take in all this debt that is impossible.

Speaker 2 Like, if I went on a credit card, it would be a, everyone would know it was a terrible idea. You wait, you put how much on your credit card? You put all this money on

Speaker 2 your your life credit card and have to pay it back. You're starting in a hole.
You're starting your entire life in a gigantic hole.

Speaker 2 So you better have, like, I had a friend, I remember he went to like an engineering, some great engineering college.

Speaker 2 And it's like, okay, kind of makes, like, you can probably make a pretty smart bet that that engineering degree is going to pay off into a life that you wouldn't be able to get into.

Speaker 2 Get a really high salary. Get a high salary and you can pay that back.
And probably 10 years after you start your working life, you're probably ahead of the game. And that's great.

Speaker 2 It does happen for people in certain industries. But so, you know, when you talk about predatory lending, I would agree with you.
You make your own decisions. You sign your own paperwork.

Speaker 2 But if there's any predator in that situation, it is the universities.

Speaker 2 These colleges that, first of all, benefit from this

Speaker 2 society-wide idea that everybody has to go no matter what you're trying to do with your life. And then they bring them in there and they give them a bunch of liberal nonsense that gets them nowhere.

Speaker 2 nowhere. It gives them a giant zilch when it comes to actual benefits.
So they spend $100,000, get nothing out of it.

Speaker 2 Then they're at a regular job they could have had without the education trying to pay back $100,000 debt.

Speaker 5 Or if you've gone to a NIV League school, it's even worse as far as the indoctrination and the money invested because now it's $200,000 or more.

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Speaker 5 You know what we've been discovering ever since the election was that everybody in everybody you would have expected to know about the decline of Joe Biden Biden during his presidency knew about the decline of Joe Biden during his presidency.

Speaker 5 Even though they denied it, they lied about it the whole time. They covered it up.

Speaker 5 They kept telling us how brilliant he was and how active he was and how he's the best communicator in the White House. And he's so sharp.

Speaker 5 Nobody can even, 20-year-old interns can't keep up with this man.

Speaker 5 And then everybody afterwards admitted the lie, including Ron Klain, his chief of staff,

Speaker 5 who said that he couldn't even comprehend what was being said at that debate.

Speaker 2 Wow. Where were you then? Is that a problem? Do you want your president to be able to comprehend

Speaker 2 a lot of stuff? I'm a little picky that way, probably.

Speaker 5 I'm probably more picky than the average person. I'd say yes.
I do want my president to understand virtually everything said at a debate.

Speaker 2 Wow. Virtually all

Speaker 2 That's a

Speaker 2 crazy standard. It's a high bar.

Speaker 5 I know. It is.
I realize it. It really is.

Speaker 2 You probably want people to pay their student loans back. I do.
Yeah, that's what I figured. Okay, now I understand you.
You're just one of those people.

Speaker 5 Now you know I'm a kooky right-wing white supremacist. Mean.
Men mean,

Speaker 5 which may be the worst of all. I'm just mean.

Speaker 5 Well, Jen Saki talked about Biden's mental decline, and here's what she had to say about that.

Speaker 12 I left in May of 2022, just for the facts here.

Speaker 12 And I have seen Biden once since then, when I took my daughter to the holiday party this last December after he had lost.

Speaker 12 And so I hadn't seen him in person during that period of time. I never saw that person, not a single time.
And I was in the Oval Office every day that was on that debate stage.

Speaker 2 I'm not a doctor. Aging happens quite quickly.

Speaker 12 Were things that people saw during that period of time that were similar to that or would have been in a category of that? I don't know, possibly, right? And all these books are going to tell us.

Speaker 2 Do you think that they were, were they actively covering it up? Were they sort of in denial or was it or is it or was that just a bad debate? Like what is your read on that?

Speaker 12 Well, this is what I mean about cover-up is a very loaded term, I think.

Speaker 2 Well, it means you knew that it was really bad and you're pretending otherwise versus you're deluding yourself, which I think is what people do a lot.

Speaker 12 Well, I understand, but I still think it's like cover-up is often like a crime, right?

Speaker 2 We're talking people use that shit. It's worse than that.

Speaker 12 People use that term as they relate to Watergate or the coverage of

Speaker 12 not sharing public information about a war.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I'm not accusing anybody of a crisis. I understand, but other people have used that.

Speaker 12 And I think it's a bit of a dangerous term.

Speaker 2 It's not a dangerous term. It's an accurate term.

Speaker 5 Yes, it's the truth. People covered up for him.
And they're admitting that now. They're saying, yeah,

Speaker 2 it was bad.

Speaker 5 We knew in the circle that he was bad. He just wasn't the same.
He declined. Well, okay, now it's bordering on treason because

Speaker 5 you were saying the whole time that he was fine, that everything was great, that he's sharp as attack.

Speaker 5 I mean, that borders, to me, that borders on treason when you're talking about the chief executive of this country.

Speaker 2 It's unbelievable. Yeah, and I think, you know, Saki herself

Speaker 2 has some plausible deniability here in that when people acknowledge, everybody acknowledges all these problems happened with Biden, she was gone for multiple years.

Speaker 2 Now, I, of course, believed these happened long before that while she was there. I I don't know if that's the same thing.
I believe the evidence of it. Yeah, I don't even think it's a close call.

Speaker 2 We all saw before he was even elected that he had lost a step or 12

Speaker 2 in that process. So I don't buy her answer here.
However, she probably has some plausible deniability as opposed to people who were actually there with him every day during that period, right?

Speaker 5 Like, those are the things that we're talking about.

Speaker 2 The wrong planes of the world. Yeah,

Speaker 2 I do think that I'm totally fine with at least discussion of what crime was committed there.

Speaker 2 I'll say this, if there was no crime committed, we need to change the law. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's not the truth. Because we can't,

Speaker 2 this cannot be an ongoing thing.

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 2 You know, we saw it back in the Woodrow Wilson days where he wasn't even president. His wife was basically running the country.

Speaker 5 He was literally in a coma.

Speaker 2 In a coma for part of the period. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The same thing basically happened here.

Speaker 5 It was a waking coma.

Speaker 2 It was a waking coma.

Speaker 2 Basically, Dr. Jill Biden was president for a time.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It seems, at the very least, we need a full investigation to know what the hell happened there.

Speaker 2 I want to know everybody who took steps to, using this term very accurately, cover up what was going on. But by the way, they've now admitted they were doing.
Yes. They

Speaker 2 over and over have admitted that they were doing things to make sure we didn't know what was going on. They would take steps to hide

Speaker 2 to the American people

Speaker 2 what lapses he was having.

Speaker 5 I mean, that's despicable. And again, it should be illegal.

Speaker 2 It's treason. It should be illegal.
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 5 It should.

Speaker 5 The American people had a right to know that their commander-in-chief was compromised mentally like that.

Speaker 5 And we saw it the whole time. And it wasn't just since 2022, as she was alluding to, because we saw it all during the campaign in 2020, 2019 and 2020.

Speaker 5 He was not the same guy he was back in 2008 when he ran. He just wasn't.

Speaker 5 He was half gone, at least, the entire time.

Speaker 2 Am I wrong to Pat to think that this should be a bigger issue?

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 I care

Speaker 2 a lot more about what happened during that Biden,

Speaker 2 at the end of that Biden presidency or throughout the Biden presidency when it comes to covering this stuff up than I do what happens to some potential gang member who was taken to an L Cell or to prison.

Speaker 2 Now, again, we should get everything right. Everything in the country should go the perfect way, obviously.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 it's not going to happen, first of all. But secondly, like when it comes to focus,

Speaker 2 like I,

Speaker 2 let me say another one here, Pat, care a lot more about what actually happened behind the scenes during that Biden period than I do about the JFK situation in 2025.

Speaker 2 You know, a lot of things that we've spent a lot of time on, like there should be full-out investigations going on as to whether we as a nation just suffered through a period where a president was unable to do his job and was, and

Speaker 2 people

Speaker 2 with names that we know actively took steps to hide it from us. That's way more important than about half the stuff we're talking about right now.
Very egregious.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's egregious.

Speaker 5 And now,

Speaker 5 you know, you brought up the Maryland man.

Speaker 2 The father? The fatherland father?

Speaker 5 The saint. Yes.
Yes, the Maryland man.

Speaker 5 It's interesting because, you know, they did all this without adjudication, without due process.

Speaker 5 And the administration is making some cases now that he did, there was a lot of due process because he had multiple court appearances.

Speaker 5 He had a deportation order.

Speaker 5 He was deemed a gang member by the courts, not once, but twice. I mean, so there were things.

Speaker 5 The only thing that was really violated there, maybe, was the fact that he wasn't supposed to be deported right then back to El Salvador.

Speaker 3 Back to that place.

Speaker 5 Right. That actual place.

Speaker 2 He should have been deported, but in theory, because of a court ruling that you can agree with or not agree with, he shouldn't have gone back to El Salvador, but he should have gone somewhere else.

Speaker 5 Yes. And deporting people who are here illegally is not a violation of the Constitution, and that's what they're trying to make out of it now.

Speaker 2 Are you sure, Pat?

Speaker 5 I'm very

Speaker 2 seems like it would be a violation of the Constitution to deport people who aren't supposed to be here.

Speaker 2 I don't understand the arguments for the media anymore. I know.
How could the Constitution possibly,

Speaker 2 if the Constitution is essentially a framework for the nation to run?

Speaker 2 Another framework for the nation to run are its laws.

Speaker 2 The laws

Speaker 2 quite clearly would indicate when you say someone is here illegally

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 removing them would be a rational.

Speaker 2 Sometimes you just need to have just come to look. Rational thought should enter the conversation.
They've entered the chat. Rational thought has entered the chat.

Speaker 2 Hey, when you come here illegally, you should leave.

Speaker 5 It's quite a concept. I mean,

Speaker 5 that's out there. That's out there always.

Speaker 5 Over the weekend, I saw a headline

Speaker 5 yesterday, actually, about

Speaker 5 President Trump says he doesn't know if he has to follow the Constitution. I'm like, what?

Speaker 5 Did he say that?

Speaker 5 He actually said it in regard to whether or not we need to do due process on all the illegals that we deport from here on out.

Speaker 2 Like, you're going to go to court for a court action.

Speaker 5 For a million or two million people or however many they've decided they're going to depart. you can't possibly do that, which the left knows.
And so they're trying to stop all deportation.

Speaker 2 No, too, you don't like due process is a loaded term. Like they're trying to say basically every single person you deport has to come in for a full trial.

Speaker 2 That's not what

Speaker 2 the law guarantees at all. No.
People are turned back all the time and removed from the country without any due process. But when you say without any due process, it's misleading.

Speaker 2 The due process is built into the law, which is you could just be removed.

Speaker 2 And it's not in every circumstance. I don't believe it's in the circumstance of the guy that was sent to, what's his name, Kilmar

Speaker 2 Obrego Garcia-Garcia.

Speaker 2 There was a due process he went through and was not supposed to be sent to that country, which is something that, by the way, the Trump administration has acknowledged multiple times.

Speaker 2 The issue here is like it wouldn't be that you'd be having millions of

Speaker 2 people going to individual trials over this because that's not how the system operates like the law due process is the law it's another word essentially is saying like you need to follow the law and the law should be followed but that the law does not require millions of individual trials for every single person who crosses the border it's silly you couldn't possibly do that um because the the number they acknowledge is 11 million are you going to have 11 million trials for these and really more like 20 or 30 million and not all are going to be deported but there's going to be a big number of them according to the administration and there's just there's no way you can do that but when they're here illegally they're going to face deportation and i will note that easy by the way pat and i know you will agree with this if they did do 20 million trials and they found 8 million people should be deported by those trials, what the media would do was say the trials were unfair.

Speaker 2 And they would say the law was horrible.

Speaker 2 And they would say you were destroying the lives of the people who went through those trials, which, by the way, is essentially what they're doing with Garcia, which is, oh, well, he was deported to the wrong country.

Speaker 2 If he were to come back and then they were to send him to name the

Speaker 2 third country, whatever one you want, Colombia, what they would say was unfair that he was sent to Colombia and it was horrible and it was unconstitutional. It's so ridiculously predictable.

Speaker 2 You understand why I think a lot of the reaction from the Trump administration, even though they've acknowledged this was not the right way to handle this, is just like kind of shoulder shrug. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's like, well, well, what do you want to say? You can't take your criticism seriously. You just say whatever's in front of you that benefits you at the moment.

Speaker 2 Right? Like, whatever, whatever argument will work for them in that particular moment, they just blurt it out.

Speaker 2 Even if it makes no sense, even if they know it's nonsensical, they'll just say it anyway.

Speaker 5 We'll share a great example of exactly that coming up. Hang in.

Speaker 6 They want you silent, obedient, and blind.

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Speaker 5 We were talking about how, well, Democrats lie.

Speaker 5 That just is a universal truth.

Speaker 5 I don't make universal truth. I just live by it.
And that's one of the big truths in the universe is that Democrats lie. Constantly?

Speaker 2 Constantly. And that's part of it.

Speaker 5 If their mouth is moving, as the expression goes, they're lying.

Speaker 5 Which is interesting because James Carville shared some thoughts on why Democrats don't lie. And he was actually serious about this.

Speaker 2 The other thing I would say, and I will say this repeatedly, people say to me all the time, James, why don't we just do like the Republicans do? Just stand up and lie. Because

Speaker 2 people wouldn't stand for it. If I stood up and lied, you would be the first person to say, James Carville lost all credibility last night when he said X, Y, and Z.
This is so not

Speaker 2 in shade.

Speaker 2 Everybody does that. Yeah.
They just

Speaker 2 look you right in the eye and lie. And then our people say, well, we ought to lie like them.
No, we shouldn't. Cause they would not do that.
It would not go over well.

Speaker 2 That might be.

Speaker 5 That's just the biggest lie he's ever told right there.

Speaker 2 It would go over incredibly well.

Speaker 2 Look, it does. It does.
Even an entire industry doing it constantly.

Speaker 2 So it would go over very well.

Speaker 5 That is stunning.

Speaker 2 I really wish it was true, though.

Speaker 5 I do too.

Speaker 2 I wish it was true.

Speaker 5 But it's not. Nothing could be further from actual truth than that.

Speaker 5 Also, over the weekend, whoever was running the White House account on X seemed to be having some fun. First, there were four simple truths that they pointed out.

Speaker 5 Could go to the

Speaker 5 four simple truths. One,

Speaker 5 they have a a picture of of kamala harris she is not president then just to the right in the next box is a photo of uh abrego garcia not a maryland man

Speaker 5 uh in the lower left-hand corner true that's a good point i hadn't even thought of he's he's not even real he's not even a maryland man no like he's not he was not even supposed to be there uh they have the npr logo not real news and then uh a photo of the a map of the Gulf of America.

Speaker 5 And it says underneath, not the Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 5 just some truisms for you there from the White House this weekend. We still have much more, barely even scratched the surface on everything that was going on just over the weekend.

Speaker 2 More of that coming up.

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Speaker 4 That's a good thing.

Speaker 5 Thank you, President Trump, for not trolling people on that particular issue. Because

Speaker 5 it just, to me, that discussion kind of plays into them saying, he's never going to leave.

Speaker 2 He intends to be a dictator. He wants to stay there forever.
Okay.

Speaker 5 Now he just told you.

Speaker 2 Five seconds.

Speaker 5 So are we going to continue to have to deal with...

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's trying to stay there forever.

Speaker 5 I'll bet they'll still do it.

Speaker 2 Well, because you know, in three weeks, he's going to be like, well, I am considering it.

Speaker 2 A lot of people want me to. Of course, he's going to.

Speaker 2 I don't know what. I mean, that's just what he likes doing.
I guess

Speaker 2 he still likes doing it. And

Speaker 2 it is going to count.

Speaker 2 You know, again,

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 2 he will continue to play that game because he likes the game.

Speaker 5 He does. Here's another example of how much he likes.
It's the Pope.

Speaker 5 It's Donald Trump as Pope.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 He's just trolling people with that. And he does enjoy it, quite clearly.

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Speaker 2 The White House has

Speaker 5 released an outline of the 2026 budget. We'll get into some of what's in that budget coming up in one minute.

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Speaker 5 So when was the last time the United States of America actually had a legitimate budget? We actually passed a budget.

Speaker 2 Wasn't it before Obama? Yes.

Speaker 5 I believe it was 2008, 2009.

Speaker 2 I think that was the last fiscal year.

Speaker 5 Is that incredible?

Speaker 2 15, 16 years ago.

Speaker 5 And so for them to even propose a budget, of course, that you're going to have weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth. And that's what we've got here.

Speaker 5 But this budget apparently reduces non-defense discretionary spending by $163 billion or 23%

Speaker 5 down from the 2025

Speaker 5 enacted level.

Speaker 5 It guts a weaponized deep state while providing historic increases for defense and border security. It's the lowest non-defense spending level since 2017.

Speaker 5 The savings come from eliminating radical diversity, equity, and inclusion, and critical race theory programs. Hard to believe we were hampered with that stuff to begin with.

Speaker 5 Green new scam funding, as they call it. Large swaths of the federal government weaponized against the American people.
Remove those.

Speaker 5 Moving programs that are better suited for states and localities to provide.

Speaker 5 Defense, actual defense spending will increase by 13%.

Speaker 5 And appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security will increase almost 65%

Speaker 5 to ensure that our military and other agencies repelling the invasion of our border have the resources they need to complete their mission.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 there's an awful lot going on because, again, we haven't had a budget in probably 16 years. They just keep doing the continuing resolution.
They just keep raising the debt ceiling. And

Speaker 5 so we just keep spending ourselves into oblivion and then print more money, which diminishes the value of our money. So it's really...

Speaker 5 It's been irresponsible. It's been stupid.
It's reckless. And

Speaker 5 in order to stop it, we're we're going to have to really take a stand here. And that's what he's trying to do with this big, beautiful bill.

Speaker 5 But some of the other highlights of it, they're going to defund the harmful, woke, Marxist agenda. I like that.
Every agency across the federal government was engaged in funding and advancing DEI.

Speaker 5 and other radical harmful ideologies, such as

Speaker 5 $315 million for grant programs to push intersectionality, racial equality, and LGBTQQIA2 plus programming for preschoolers,

Speaker 5 housing grants that funded activities like equity audits to reverse land use patterns that have roots in systemically racist policies in Los Angeles County and addressing white supremacy in the STEM profession.

Speaker 2 Okay,

Speaker 5 a lot of white supremacy in the STEM

Speaker 2 profession. I wasn't aware of that, but I'm glad we're going to root it out.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's pretty obvious to everybody but me.

Speaker 2 You know, numbers are racist. You know that?

Speaker 5 Oh, of course.

Speaker 2 Okay, good. Obviously.

Speaker 5 It promises to secure the border, realign foreign aid, rebuild the military,

Speaker 5 achieve American energy dominance. So I guess that would mean more drilling for one thing.

Speaker 5 Make America healthy again, the Maha program. Support our veterans.

Speaker 5 It says preserve social security. Right, but you know they're trying to get after your,

Speaker 5 they're going to cut your social security, probably the whole program. That's what we hear from the left all the way.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 5 Streamline K through 12, education funding, promote parental choice, make America skilled again.

Speaker 5 There is support in this bill for spaceflight.

Speaker 5 Let's see. They're going to allocate $7 billion for lunar exploration and another billion in new investments for Mars-focused programs.

Speaker 2 Think we'll ever do that?

Speaker 5 Will we ever go to Mars? I'm starting to doubt that.

Speaker 2 Elon wants to go. I know he does.
That's his big thing. I know he does.

Speaker 5 He's been pushed back so many times, though. It was supposed to happen in, I think, like 2020, then 2024, then 2026.

Speaker 2 But by who? The federal government?

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's a good question, too.

Speaker 2 Because I think

Speaker 2 the possibility of us going to Mars basically lies on the shoulders of Elon Musk, not the federal.

Speaker 2 If we're going to depend on the government to do it, we're never going to do it. He wants to do it.
He's willing to bet his own resources on doing it.

Speaker 2 And so I do think eventually he will get it done, probably.

Speaker 2 But it's still going to be very difficult.

Speaker 5 He also renamed that area in South Texas. Did you see that over the weekend? They had a vote on whether to change the name of the area.

Speaker 5 This is kind of unincorporated territory, but SpaceX has had that.

Speaker 5 They've built a ton of infrastructure there. They've got four launching pads and a bunch of employees, and they built a huge complex down there.

Speaker 5 And so they wanted to change the name to the city of Starbase.

Speaker 5 And that passed over the weekend. So

Speaker 5 you might expect it to because out of the 240-some

Speaker 5 homes and dwellings in the area, all but 10 belonged to Elon Musk and his employees.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 5 wow, not a surprise.

Speaker 2 One way to win an election. I like it.
Yes. Yes.

Speaker 2 By the way, on this front, I love the way this is spun in the media because you take the Elon Musk and the budget, and they're talking about cutting all this stuff.

Speaker 2 And one of the complaints has been that they're cutting research, NIH research.

Speaker 2 Now, The fundamental argument of the Trump presidency, right, when it comes to these issues was, hey, like, we should be doing real research on things. We should not be doing research based on

Speaker 2 LGBTQ

Speaker 2 DEI type stuff, right? Like, these should be things that are, if they're going to do this research, it's got to be benefiting everybody. And it's not like, hey, what is, you know, let's do

Speaker 2 a research study on LGBTQ hamsters.

Speaker 5 Well, you don't care about LGBTQ hamsters?

Speaker 2 Just LGBT.

Speaker 2 The Q hamsters, I'm just not interested in queer or questioning hamsters? I don't even know which one it is. Is it queer or questioning? It's both.
The Q is for both.

Speaker 5 Well, you got to add the second Q in there.

Speaker 2 So LGBTQQIA2 plus. Exactly.
That's the way I like to

Speaker 2 information. That gets you with everybody.
Honestly, you could just do plus. If you're going to use plus.

Speaker 5 LGB plus would work.

Speaker 2 Why not just plus?

Speaker 2 Plus gets everybody.

Speaker 2 Of course, it might also get some of those weird straight people.

Speaker 5 And you don't want that.

Speaker 2 That's just just gross. They're icky.

Speaker 2 But so

Speaker 2 the fundamental argument of the Trump administration coming in is, hey, let's not base these on sexuality, race,

Speaker 2 gender. Let's just do things that are

Speaker 5 good for everybody, right?

Speaker 2 How do that, how does that, when he implements that, how does that get spun by the New York Times? Trump administration slashes research into LGBTQ health. Gosh.

Speaker 2 Nearly half of NIH grants canceled through early May, together worth more than $800 million,

Speaker 2 address the health of sexual and gender minority groups. Now,

Speaker 2 again, this was his central argument, is that you shouldn't be doing research on this basis.

Speaker 2 So it would make sense that the stuff that he's cutting is the stuff like the LGBTQ hamsters. Yes.
Right? That's the stuff he's saying is a problem.

Speaker 2 But they're flipping that around and saying he's targeting these groups, which is, of course, not what he's doing. He's saying everyone should benefit from

Speaker 2 this research, not just specific groups.

Speaker 2 This is not the type of research you need to do. Let's do research that benefits everybody, not just specific groups like this.

Speaker 2 But when you, I mean, if you want to twist it, you can always come up with a negative headline. And that is seemingly the entire business of the media these days.
Yes. Yes, it is.

Speaker 5 Some other things that this budget will do is maintain support for tribal nations, which I've been arguing for forever now. Forever.
Not just the Lumbee tribe, but every tribe

Speaker 5 across the length and breadth of this great land.

Speaker 2 That is the bumper sticker you have on your car.

Speaker 5 It is one of the many.

Speaker 2 You support

Speaker 2 Native Americans.

Speaker 5 Tribal nations.

Speaker 2 Tribal nations among the length and breadth of this land. That is what the bumper stands.

Speaker 5 It's a long sticker, but it's worth it.

Speaker 2 It goes the entire bumper. It does.
It

Speaker 2 does.

Speaker 5 The budget does, however, weed out radical woke grants and programs and streamlines other programs for tribal communities that were ineffective.

Speaker 5 It addresses drug abuse. It supports artificial intelligence and quantum research.

Speaker 5 It amply funds research in AI and quantum information science at key agencies to ensure the United States remains on the cutting edge of these critical technologies, development, and responsible use.

Speaker 5 And that's the thing. Do we keep that use responsible? That's

Speaker 5 kind of the fear as this thing kind of

Speaker 5 rockets to new heights and we start to see these breakthroughs almost weekly in AI. It's pretty amazing how far and how fast that has come.

Speaker 5 And how much farther and faster is it going to go from here on?

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 5 that's something that needs to be monitored, I think, pretty carefully.

Speaker 5 There was some story over the weekend about humanoid robots breaking out of their

Speaker 5 out of their restraints. Did you see that?

Speaker 2 I saw that, yeah. Yeah.
Is that real? I never know with the robots going crazy videos, whether they're real.

Speaker 5 But I guess all we have is their word for it. But apparently this robot was a...

Speaker 5 was attached to some restraints and it started flailing its arms all over the place and started moving toward the humans in the room until one of them somehow got control of the robot.

Speaker 5 But we're led to believe there that the robots are already starting to become sentient.

Speaker 2 Do we know if robots are to, let's just say, they rise up and they start coming off of their restraints and coming after people? Yeah. How will that affect LGBTQ people?

Speaker 5 More adversely, obviously.

Speaker 2 Oh, yes.

Speaker 2 They will be disproportionately affected.

Speaker 2 Yes. That's negative.
And we don't want that to happen. We need a new study.
Let's start with hamsters. Okay.
And then we'll move on to the bottom.

Speaker 5 And then. Okay.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 5 I like it.

Speaker 2 I like it.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 hopefully, this budget, I guess, as I've seen it so far,

Speaker 5 it looks fairly promising. And it looks like we might actually have something that has a structure as far as our financial future.
Will it pass, though? I don't know. That remains to be seen.

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Speaker 5 Patton Stuford Glenn, who returns on Wednesday. Happy Cinco de Mayo, by the way.
Did you realize it is Cinco de Mayo today?

Speaker 2 I did not. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So it's pretty exciting. Some cities, however, are canceling their cultural events due to fears of ICE raids and deportations.

Speaker 2 Again,

Speaker 2 again, it's that mean Donald Trump. It is mean.

Speaker 2 I will say, like, you know, his border policy, I think, has been very, very positive. Obviously, what's happened

Speaker 2 is

Speaker 2 very, very effective. But we have not actually seen

Speaker 2 large-scale deportations in the world. We haven't.
You know,

Speaker 2 my one criticism on what's gone on with the Ebrego-Garcia situation is like, I don't know. It's not like...

Speaker 2 It's not central to the overall problem, right? It's one person. So all this focus has been put on this one person who, again, I don't think should be here, obviously.
But like...

Speaker 5 The Maryland man you don't believe should be here?

Speaker 2 He should be in Maryland. I'm not a Maryland.
Right. He's a Maryland father.
He should be a Maryland.

Speaker 2 Yes. No, he should be deported to some other country, apparently.
That's the rule.

Speaker 2 Whatever the situation is, I don't want him to be here. I don't think he does not seem like a good guy, at least according to his wife's.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, did you in her own voice?

Speaker 5 They've

Speaker 5 I should find that because it's stunning. I mean, she was talking about.
The beatings he gave her, the bruises that she had.

Speaker 2 Awful.

Speaker 5 She took photos of it.

Speaker 2 But did you see what she said about it, though?

Speaker 2 Because she was asked, she's like, hey, wait a minute. You said she was this great guy, this great guy.
Right.

Speaker 2 And now you're.

Speaker 5 And now we're finding out. He's not.

Speaker 2 But she clarified that, Pat. Okay.
In 2021, she filed a protective order against her husband alleging domestic violence. Yes.
In a statement last week, this is a couple weeks ago now.

Speaker 2 She said, quote, she did so in case things escalated. That's right.
Yes. Adding that they never did.
So he's fine. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 He's fine. Completely fine.

Speaker 2 I mean, do you believe that as an excuse? That you'd even print that?

Speaker 2 What do you mean? No one files a restraining order for domestic violence in case there's domestic violence. That is literally never occurred.

Speaker 2 Why? Imagine doing that to your husband. No.

Speaker 5 If there was no reason for it?

Speaker 2 No. He's like, ah, gosh, I'm just worried you might start beating me soon.
So I'm going to get a restraining order against you now, just in case you started that. So you're saying that's unreasonable?

Speaker 2 Unreasonable. Yeah, unreasonable.
So she's, but now we have evidence that this is not accurate, you're saying? Yeah. You're saying in her own words?

Speaker 5 Yes, she's in her own words. She's talking about the times he slapped her multiple times, hit her, gave her bruises, threatened her life.

Speaker 5 I mean, it was not, it was not good and not a peaceful domestic situation.

Speaker 2 What's the reason then for? this approach from her

Speaker 2 like because part of i mean i guess there's a the best case scenario is they had real problems before she feels like they're through them now. Yeah.
And she's now just gonna lie

Speaker 2 and defend him.

Speaker 5 And because I think that happens.

Speaker 2 That does happen. Quite a bit.
I think also there's an element of when these things become these big national stories. There's this idea that maybe this turns into something beneficial for the person.

Speaker 2 Maybe. You know what I mean? Like I'm trying to think of another, there was another, this happens with,

Speaker 2 you know, sometimes these racially charged murder cases where people will come in and say, oh, well, well, if I can step in here and now, like, you know, even though there's a case that you used to cite all the time of the father was not even involved in the kid's life anymore

Speaker 2 and had been like abandoned years and years and years ago. And he's now in the front of the media saying, my son, my son, my son.
You know, that type of stuff does happen. People jump into that fray.

Speaker 2 I don't know if that's the situation here. I mean,

Speaker 2 I don't even know what to root for. The bottom line is it seems like the damage was done a long time ago.
There's no way, unless she was lying back then, I guess that's the best case scenario.

Speaker 5 But if you were planning to attend a Cinco de Mayo celebration parade, get-together of any kind, you might want to call ahead and make sure it's still on.

Speaker 5 Because for the past 45 years, for instance, in Chicago's little village neighborhood, they've celebrated Cinco de Mayo with a parade featuring Mexican bands, floats, and dancers, and a festival at a local park afterwards.

Speaker 5 And up to 300,000 people show up for this every year.

Speaker 5 They canceled it. It's off now because, you know, because why? Because of mean Donald Trump.
You know, ICE might show up and start deporting people.

Speaker 5 And it won't even matter if you just look like you might be Hispanic. They'll just arrest you and deport you, of course.

Speaker 5 But event organizers said many Latinos, whether legal or illegal, fear being arrested if they gather publicly in large crowds. Yeah, well, thank you, Democrats.
That's their doing.

Speaker 5 Advocates also report that some are afraid to attend church, go to work, or even take their children to school.

Speaker 5 Let me just recommend, if you're here illegally, you should always be afraid of all of those things.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 5 And maybe you return to a place where you're a legal resident.

Speaker 5 And then you won't have to worry about it anymore.

Speaker 5 That's out there a ways, though. I know.
That's available to them?

Speaker 2 That is available.

Speaker 5 You could self-deport and go back to your country of origin where you are, in fact, a citizen,

Speaker 5 and nobody will deport you.

Speaker 2 Crazy? That's such a great idea.

Speaker 2 I wish someone should tell them about that.

Speaker 2 Because that seems to be the rational

Speaker 2 way to handle it.

Speaker 5 But apparently, not. Triple 8-727-B-E-C-K.
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Speaker 2 Pat Gray, Stuper Gear, for Glenn, who

Speaker 2 may or may not, it appears, be back on Wednesday. We're not sure right now.
There's a bit of an issue.

Speaker 2 You can check in with this ongoing situation, apparently, on Twitter, where Glenn is posting, or acts, I guess,

Speaker 2 about his flight difficulties. Oh, no.
At the moment, he is apparently stranded. I don't know where to heathrow maybe?

Speaker 2 Trying to get home to do the show for you.

Speaker 2 He is complaining to American Airlines who they bumped Glenn off the flight.

Speaker 5 Oh, no. According to Glenn.

Speaker 2 He says they made it on time with 50 minutes to spare,

Speaker 2 but they will not let him on the flight. And then they let someone else who showed up two minutes before the flight on the flight, but kept him off of it.
What? Really? That's what he's saying.

Speaker 2 Now, Glenn has been complaining about American airlines for years.

Speaker 5 Yes. Which is...
With good reason in some cases.

Speaker 2 In some cases, good reason. However, I will say, when you complain

Speaker 2 publicly about an airline, I don't know if that makes you more or less likely for this to happen to you. I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 I think I would think normally with a big audience like Glenn has that.

Speaker 5 You might want to make it a better experience for him. Right.
In case he talks about you again, which he obviously is going to.

Speaker 2 Seems like they go the opposite direction with that one.

Speaker 2 So we think Glenn's going to be back on Wednesday or he'll be doing the show from a Heathrow bathroom. One of the two.
Probably the more likely.

Speaker 5 Yes. It's the Heathrow bathroom.

Speaker 2 At this point, honestly, that seems like

Speaker 2 the truth.

Speaker 5 You have an interesting

Speaker 5 story about a 90-year-old economist. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 This is an update. We did the story last, or two weeks ago, I guess now.
If you remember it, basically a story of Daniel Kahneman, who is a

Speaker 2 psychologist/slash economist. He did a lot of work in behavioral economics.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 his story, he wrote a book called Thinking Fast and Slow, which is kind of a well-known book about how the brain works, right?

Speaker 2 Like that you have one part of your brain that thinks and makes instant decisions based on instinct and reaction, and another part of your brain that kind of like logically works through problems. And

Speaker 2 it's a really interesting book. The concept, it's kind of work how you can

Speaker 2 live your life better and understand how your brain is working in certain circumstances, but also how to design policy.

Speaker 2 You know, a lot of times we,

Speaker 2 you know, like, why do people smoke cigarettes, right? Why do people eat foods that are unhealthy?

Speaker 2 Well, that instant reaction brain takes that instant reward, right, and prioritizes it over the logical thinking over a long term that, hey, maybe this is an unhealthy behavior, right?

Speaker 2 Makes sense, yeah. Yeah, so it's interesting stuff.
So anyway, uh, he lived a very interesting life, you know, won Nobel Prize,

Speaker 2 you know, was featured in a Michael Lewis book about his life with one of his co-workers. So he gets to, he lives this life, gets to 90 years old, and decides to basically go through assisted suicide.

Speaker 2 I think he flies to Switzerland, if I remember correctly, and basically gets himself killed.

Speaker 2 We hear that he dies. That's a story at the time.
We don't know how.

Speaker 2 A couple weeks later, an op-ed in the New York Times runs, written partially by someone you might remember from back in the day, Pat Peter Singer.

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 2 The ethicist, quote unquote, from Princeton, who basically advocated for abortion up to two years after birth

Speaker 2 and then corrected himself to say, actually, there shouldn't be a time limit on it.

Speaker 2 Basically, once you hit consciousness,

Speaker 2 that's when you become a human. Okay.
Was his argument.

Speaker 5 But you could, in theory,

Speaker 5 abort a 20-year-old.

Speaker 2 I mean, I think in theory, especially if you had maybe a mental condition that did not live up to Peter's standards

Speaker 2 for human existence.

Speaker 5 A great guy.

Speaker 2 Yes, I think a horrible, horrible belief system that he has.

Speaker 2 He knew Kahneman. They apparently talked about this, and he checked out.
Now, the op-ed was basically, hey, what a thoughtful guy this guy is.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 one of the pieces of information that was so interesting was he didn't have like terminal cancer. He didn't have

Speaker 2 some disease that was going to kill him in weeks. He basically said,

Speaker 2 I'll read this one excerpt. In explanation, Professor Kahneman included a letter that his friends would receive a few days later.

Speaker 2 I have believed since I was a teenager that the miseries and indignities of the last years of life are superfluous. And I'm acting on that belief.

Speaker 2 I am still active, enjoying many things in life, except the Daily News, and will die a happy man. But my kidneys are on their last legs.
The frequency of mental lapses is increasing.

Speaker 2 And I'm 90 years old. It's time to go.
So no disease, nothing. He just decided he didn't want to be 91, essentially.
Wow. So the update on the story is the New York Times wrote some letters.

Speaker 2 They ran some letters in their paper to the editor, letters to the editor. And of course, you'd think there'd be some outrage.

Speaker 2 You would think. There are a couple letters in here that are

Speaker 2 mildly uncomfortable, I would say, with the process of killing yourself for no good reason.

Speaker 2 You know, hey, I don't know about this. It sounds like I'm a little uncomfortable with it.
Basically, the two-hat a statement. Yes.

Speaker 2 You can keep uncomfortable. You can't find anyone who's like, this is horrible.

Speaker 2 This culture of death is awful. None of that.
Yeah. Most of them are like this, though.
I admire and respect Daniel Kahneman's decision to end his life at 90.

Speaker 2 And I hope I'm as able to be as clear-headed and resolute in another decade or two when my time comes. Wow.

Speaker 2 Wow. That's one from G.
Steve Jordan in New York. You don't have to be a Nobel laureate to understand Daniel

Speaker 2 Kahneman's

Speaker 2 concept of a complete life and his decision to go to Switzerland.

Speaker 5 That was all. Just a decision to go to Switzerland.
It's just like he's taking a vacation there.

Speaker 2 I didn't go to Switzerland, but I could have. If I could get through Heathrow, maybe that's where Glenn's going to go next.
I believe that our freedoms include the right to die with dignity.

Speaker 2 If an individual who's cogent and psychologically stable believes that

Speaker 2 he or she has lived their life well, that her life is complete and that their future

Speaker 2 will not bring enjoyment or joy, she should have the right to make the decision to terminate her life, period. I'm 77 years old and I've talked with my husband and two adult children about my wishes.

Speaker 2 While I'm not ready to make the decision today, I want them to understand my choices when the time is right. So this is someone who's basically saying, yeah, I'm going to pull the trigger on this.

Speaker 2 And maybe literally.

Speaker 2 Wow. On that one.
Wow.

Speaker 2 Let's see.

Speaker 2 Over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 Talking about how courageous it is. Having helped care for my father-in-law, my stepfather, both who had Alzheimer's.
I have profound respect for Professor Kahneman's decision.

Speaker 2 I hope to meet death with bravery and humility when my time comes. Now, again, I think there's real problems with the concept of doing this if you do have a terminal disease.
Yes, you do. Right?

Speaker 2 Major, major problems. However, the concept here of this just being a thing now, where we roll into our 80s and 90s and just decide, eh,

Speaker 2 what I see in the future for myself doesn't seem all that wonderful. Therefore, let's just end it.

Speaker 2 That's a terrifying reality. That's where we are, though, Pat.

Speaker 5 I think it again tells you, it shows you what a death cult the left and the Democrat Party.

Speaker 5 They're just, it is, it's a death cult. I mean, between abortion, which they show that they have absolutely no value for human life,

Speaker 5 the CEO of the insurance of the

Speaker 5 IHC CEO who got shot in the back, and

Speaker 5 the guy who shot and killed him has become a bulk hero.

Speaker 5 You got the Carmelo Anthony thing here, right here in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, where he stabbed someone in the chest just because they touched him. And they're making that okay.

Speaker 5 It just doesn't matter. A lot of people said

Speaker 5 it was inconceivable to me, but Many people's comments were that

Speaker 5 the 17-year-old who was stabbed in the heart got exactly what he had coming to him.

Speaker 2 Why? There's no evidence that he did anything. Right.

Speaker 5 He didn't do anything to this guy except ask him to leave and go to his own tent.

Speaker 5 It is despicable and it just shows

Speaker 5 that this is a mental disease. That if

Speaker 5 you're on the left, there's something wrong with you if you believe these things.

Speaker 2 Speaking of a mental disease, may I give you the final letter to the editor of this particular story? You may. You'll love this one, I think.

Speaker 2 To the editor, it probably doesn't need to be said that the biggest barrier to the acceptance of a assisted suicide in our culture, to its wisdom and its compassion, is the widespread belief that only God gets to decide when it's time for someone to go.

Speaker 2 A God,

Speaker 2 in scare quotes, a God

Speaker 2 who would prevent the end of needless suffering and then damn one one to eternal suffering for the act. Doesn't sound like a very compassionate God to me, said David Cohan from Oak Park, Illinois.

Speaker 5 Written like a true atheist.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Here's what I don't understand on this one, though, Pat.

Speaker 2 We have no evidence that he was going through any suffering at all.

Speaker 2 If what you're going to do, because this is an obviously dumb atheist trope. It's a stupid argument that any

Speaker 2 it's been disproven and argued so many different ways. It's just nonsense.
So, throw casting how stupid it is aside, even if you believed it, right?

Speaker 2 What you would believe in this guy's case is that he gave him an incredible life of achievement, that he is going to be remembered for his life's work, and he's done all these important, incredible things, and lived all the way till 90 years old with no pain or discomfort and still enjoying his life.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 So why on earth would it need to be ended? Right. It doesn't.

Speaker 2 Even if you are living in this bizarre, upside-down world where nothing makes sense and you're just continually enforcing your own stupidity upon the population around you, even in that circumstance, it wouldn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 But that's where we are.

Speaker 5 That's where we are. And in, you know, it's not just Switzerland either.
I think in Oregon, we're getting closer to being able to do that as well, right?

Speaker 2 Even without some, because I know a lot of places now have it if you have a disease. Yeah.
Like if you have some sort of disease or discomfort, you can do this.

Speaker 2 Many countries around here, Canada is a big proponent of this now. And they are just moved into the circumstance where now it's kind of be like, well, what if you're uncomfortable?

Speaker 2 What if you just don't feel like you want to live? Yeah. That's a really great thing to do.
That's a good concept because you want to get that started because it's not going to be people.

Speaker 2 It's not going to be

Speaker 2 It's going to be those people who are drains on our society. Yeah.
Let's go down that producer.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 If you're not producing at least as much as you consume or a little bit more, then we should have a little trial for you where you can come out and you can say, are you proving your worth to society?

Speaker 2 Are you doing what you need to do for the good of the collective? I hope so, because if not,

Speaker 2 we're going to off you. We're going to off you.
And it's over. How far are we away from that? I mean, these are all things that I thought we turned away from in the, I don't know, 30s and 40s.
Right.

Speaker 2 But no, they're back.

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If Glenn can get out of Heathrow Airport, he'll be back on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 You can follow that escapade on Twitter. He's been tweeting about it.
He's currently stuck in an airport somewhere and can't get on his phone.

Speaker 5 Never a dull moment.

Speaker 2 Never a dull moment. With Glenn.
With Glenn. It's great.

Speaker 5 We were just talking about the 90-year-old who

Speaker 5 flew to Switzerland, took his own life.

Speaker 5 He was a, so he was a therapist.

Speaker 2 He was a psychologist. Psychologist.
He was kind of best known for his work in economics.

Speaker 5 And there's a lot of people that support this, being able to, you know, kill yourself

Speaker 5 if you feel like it, if you want to, whether you're sick or not in Switzerland, they'll go ahead and help you with that.

Speaker 5 And, you know, there's been people who have favored this kind of stuff over the years for decades. We've played this from George Bernard Shaw, who is the celebrated playwright.

Speaker 5 And you might remember he had this to say, I think it was like 1933 or so.

Speaker 14 Just put him there and say, sir or madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? Justify your existence? You can't justify your existence

Speaker 14 if you're not pulling your weight in the social book,

Speaker 14 if you're not producing as much as you consume, or perhaps a little more, then

Speaker 14 we cannot use the big organization of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive.

Speaker 5 That's amazing.

Speaker 2 That is amazing.

Speaker 2 Clearly,

Speaker 2 we can't keep you alive.

Speaker 2 I can't use the big organization of our society

Speaker 2 for the purposes of keeping you alive.

Speaker 2 It's

Speaker 2 mind-boggling. The next sentence of that is really good as well.
Do you remember it off the top of your head?

Speaker 14 Life does not benefit us, and it can't be of very much use to you.

Speaker 2 So, your life does not benefit us, and it can't be of much use

Speaker 2 to yourself.

Speaker 2 It's so good.

Speaker 2 So good. And this is a guy who's still respected.

Speaker 2 I remember

Speaker 2 when he first started playing that audio, which is a core argument from the progressive, the early progressives that Glenn

Speaker 2 talked about so much.

Speaker 2 And it was the foundation of essentially everything that came in progressivism after it through eugenics and all the rest.

Speaker 2 I remember going to a diner.

Speaker 2 I was at a diner and they had quotes from George Bernard Shaw on the menu. It was like, you know,

Speaker 2 the placemat, the little placemat they put down there and they have quotes from famous people. I'm like, this is this.
Now they didn't use that quote. I suppose not.

Speaker 2 But they were quoting him like he's some some brilliant guy years later.

Speaker 5 And he's still considered that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and he's essentially outlining Hitler's

Speaker 2 large chunk of Hitler's philosophy

Speaker 2 that was behind the Holocaust and so many of his other atrocities. Amazing.

Speaker 5 Well, have a great day. We'll see you back here tomorrow.

Speaker 6 This is Glenn Beck.

Speaker 4 What do you give the mom who gave you everything?