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Main part of our audience.

Yes.

Thank you very much.

Hello, Stu.

How are you?

Glenn, how are you?

Oh, my gosh.

It's right.

It's Valentine's Day.

It's like the happiest day of the year.

It sure is.

I hate it.

It sure is.

Are you excited?

Got it.

No, you hate planned.

No.

No.

No.

My wife, I said to her earlier this week, they said, you have big plans for Valentine's Day.

And I was like, no,

it's the worst day of the year.

My wife and I hate it.

And she was standing right there.

She's like, my wife and I hate it.

And I'm like, oh.

Did I just imagine all those conversations over the years on how much you hate it?

Apparently, yes.

Apparently, yes.

So she likes it.

And you've planned nothing.

And I've planned nothing.

So,

yeah, that's going to make me mighty popular and probably most likely broke because you wait until today.

Right.

And then you try to buy your way out of it.

Yeah.

It doesn't always work.

No.

It doesn't always work.

Especially if you are talking to your friend at work and your wife overhears it.

Yeah.

Then you're in more trouble.

You know what I mean?

So I've been planning this for months, dude.

I got something special tonight.

Netflix has a

subscribed for Valentine's Day.

I subscribe.

Oh, wow.

Well, I asked for

the special, I love my wife so much

subscription.

Really?

It looks just like the old subscription, but it's not.

It means more.

It comes from the heart

at $15.95 a month.

I hate this.

It is like New Year's Eve.

You know what I mean?

Just too much pressure.

Just too much pressure.

And it's New Year's Eve at least isn't made up.

New Year's Eve is something that, you know, Valentine's Day is made up.

I mean, it's kind of, New Year's Eve's kind of made up.

I mean, it's just.

Well, no, but at least marks something real.

That's true.

Yeah.

All right.

Okay, so let's see what the president has been up to in the last 24 hours.

Does this guy sleep?

What's Melania doing for Valentine's Day today?

Is this something when he's a president of the United States, is he thinking about that type of thing?

No, I think he has people who think about that.

People who have people.

Yeah, people who have people.

Usually, maybe like...

Maybe his son, like, dad,

maybe you should carve out a couple of hours hours tonight.

Oh, crap.

I didn't even.

Your president, I think I can make a few calls.

I feel like it's interesting just the fact that we have a president that's awake, like, every day.

He seems to wake up.

We see him places.

Have you noticed this?

I don't know if you've noticed this at all, but like the current president of the United States, we see him out doing things.

Isn't that weird?

It feels weird.

I don't know about this new system we have where the president is awake every day.

That's a strange, it's changing our traditions, because I'm concerned about it.

It is, it is.

Well, Barack knows we've got to change our traditions.

That's true.

Yeah.

Anyway, Trump has dropped the hammer on the rest of the world with tariffs.

And I kind of like this tariff.

Whatever they charge us, we're going to charge them.

So reciprocal tariffs.

Reciprocal tariffs.

That's fair.

We're not going to charge you.

I mean, maybe China, but we're not going to charge you more than you charge us.

You charge us something, we'll charge you.

I think that's good.

Yeah.

I mean, it's interesting how it certainly seems fair.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, don't fire up because the rest of the world loves tariffs.

They love tariffs more than we love tariffs, even though we, you know, I don't love tariffs.

I don't love them at all.

Yes.

Trump does love them.

You've talked to him about this even in private conversations.

This is not, by the way, in case you were wondering, does he just saying this for the cameras?

No.

No, he really loves them.

He loves tariffs.

I don't agree with him on that particular policy, though he has used it to great effect, of course, recently.

That being said,

I mean, if someone's charging you 175% tariff on a particular item, picking that same item and putting a tariff of 175% certainly is fair.

Now, of course,

the reason we import things typically is because we don't have them here.

Well, but not necessarily like cars.

Yeah, not always.

Like cars.

Europe charges us 10% tariff to send a Ford over,

and

we charge them 2% to send a Mercedes.

I mean,

it's fair about that.

Again,

one of the things that's fair about that is us not paying an extra 8% on a car, right?

Like that is what's we get a benefit of that as a consumer, that we, if we want to buy a European car, we'll pay a little bit less, and now we'll pay a little bit more.

So there is a penalty to that.

However, it is certainly fair.

The word fair, I think, applies when it comes to nation-to-nation relation.

One of the things we've liked about having these lower tariffs on our side is getting lower prices for our consumers.

Correct.

And so and as Trump has discussed, he's been very upfront with us.

There's going to be pain with these policies, but long term, we think it's worth it.

And that's really where, you know, the rubber meets the road.

Okay, so now everybody's very, very, very upset about Donald Trump signing off on Doge and the audit of the IRS.

Now,

I do have to question your sanity

when you're against the audit of the IRS.

I mean, they seem to be for audits.

Wow, yeah.

Why can't audit them?

Who do you have to be to be against an audit of the IRS

and bring every single receipt you have?

I want to see every receipt.

I want to help them.

By the way, Glenn, I work with you.

My job

is, and for multiple decades now, has to become closely associated with Glenn Beck.

Yeah, it's good.

Oh, it's all the perks on the benefits.

Yeah.

Oh, gosh.

I can't even count them.

Yet, somehow I made it through the entire Barack Obama administration and the entire Joe Biden administration without getting audited.

Yeah, not me.

Yeah, no, I know.

I remember.

Yeah, yeah.

And yet, what happens two weeks ago, I get a letter from the IRS with Trump at office that I'm getting audited.

And I don't know if this is just like a parting gift from the Biden administration.

Yeah, it just got a flow.

That's what I I would say.

Well, how is that happening?

After all that, I mean, thank God somebody noticed your shadiness.

Somebody finally noticed.

He's very shady.

He's very shady.

You know, the good thing is, both of us

stay our, to our accountants, we always say the same thing.

Anybody who's preparing our attack, stay way away from the line.

Yes, 100%.

When it comes to leave it out.

But still, it's incredibly frustrating.

And like, you know, we were talking to Alan Dershowitz yesterday.

He's like, I've got every single book.

You know, everything.

I know.

Like, I mean, yeah, sure.

Somewhere I have every receipt from 2022.

I'm sure.

But

I mean, it's the, this is this relationship that we have with the government that is this adversarial torture fest that we pay for every year.

We all are like, oh, gosh, I can't wait to pay by taxes.

Maybe I'll get a refund.

Maybe they'll give me some of the money that is mine back to me

multiple months later.

I believe that's what happened to me.

I believe they actually owed me money.

After the audit?

Yeah.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Yeah, because you were.

I stay away from the law.

Right.

You know, jail time doesn't sound good to me in any way, shape, or form.

And you know, if the wrong administration is in there, the wrong IRS agent that doesn't like your show

happens to be doing it, well, guess what happens?

They go, they push it beyond the limits of normalcy.

So the good senator and common sense-filled senator from Oregon, Ron Wyden, Wyden, said, this means Musk's henchmen are in a position to dig through a trove of data about every taxpayer in America.

Wait, what?

You mean like the IRS does?

They're trying to core government function to you guys.

That's what I'm talking about.

What's up with that?

And it could very well be the reason behind any possible delays in people receiving their tax refunds for 2024.

What a scare tactic.

These guys are so freaked out about Donald Trump.

I mean, you know, the one thing that happened yesterday that everybody should recognize, Mitch McConnell was alone.

He was alone.

That's gigantic.

He had two votes, Tulsi and RFK.

I know.

And before this,

if McConnell said, hey, this is where I'm going, he would always have a bunch of buddies that would come with him, his closest friends.

And they would always do that.

It's weird.

You cut off the money and things change.

Yeah, he no longer has the leadership.

He no longer has control of that cash.

All of a sudden, he's a lonesome dove.

Yep.

So let me just, I just want to ask, are you tired of winning?

Let me just give you the winning streak so far in Congress.

Marco Rubio voted to be confirmed 99 to 0.

Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Besant, confirmed 68 to 29.

Secretary of the Interior, Doug Bergen,

79 to 18.

Brooke Rollins, Secretary of Agriculture, 72 to 28.

Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy, 77 to 22.

Pam Bondi, 54 to 46.

Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Scott Turner, 55 to 44.

Secretary of Energy, Chris Wright, 59 to 38.

Doug Collins, Veterans Affairs, 77 to 23.

Christy Noam, Secretary of Homeland Security, 59 to 34.

Lee Zeldon became the EPA Administrator, 56 by 42.

I got to tell you, Lee Zeldon, there's some stuff that he did yesterday.

You're like, holy cow.

I have high hopes for him.

He's me too.

He's off to a very good start.

Yeah.

Russ Vogt, who I just absolutely love.

Director of Office Management and Budget.

He's done a lot of incredible things this week, 53 to 47.

John Ratcliffe, confirmed as CIA director, 74 to 25.

Tulsi Gabbard and

RFK

were confirmed yesterday.

You have Cash Patel, who got out of the committee and is going to be voted on early next week.

And of course, you have Pete Hegseth.

I mean,

and Mitch McConnell standing there alone all day yesterday.

This is good.

Now, the president did a couple of other things yesterday that are groundbreaking, but we need to make sure Congress passes all of these things as laws and they're not just executive orders.

And that's going to require us to keep the heat on Congress.

And they're working on the budget.

Congress just put together their budget for next year.

The Senate is squealing like stuck little pigs.

But we need to get them to pass in one bill.

And you're going to get some crap in that one bill, I'm sure.

But

you really have a hard time going to get two bills through on reconciliation.

So we need it in one bill.

We'll talk about that coming up in just a second.

The Israelis may be gearing up for more conflict in the coming days if Hamas continues to withhold hostages.

They said yesterday yesterday that they are going to release three hostages, but not all the hostages.

And I think Donald Trump was pretty clear, wasn't he, Stu?

Release all of them, not dribs and drabs, all of them on Saturday by noon.

I don't know what that means, but they said they weren't going to release any.

And yesterday they're like, you know, we've been thinking about it.

You know, not because I think Donald Trump might have said, but we're

going to release three of them.

How's that?

We might change our mind, might do more.

So this is happening.

The Israelis are

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So we're starting to find some of the hiding places of some of the money that Biden...

I've never

think about how long this has been going on.

I've never heard of stuff like this, but they're just hiding money.

For instance, Biden,

you know, through his green energy slush fund, parked $20 billion, which is collecting interest at a private bank.

Okay.

No oversight.

Just put it in a private bank.

And Lee Zeldon found it.

a couple of days ago and said, yeah, that's all coming back here, and I don't think it's going to be distributed.

There was no oversight on it.

None.

I just love the attitude of this.

Oh, my God.

I don't know that they're going to find everything.

I don't know if it's going to be perfect, but like they are actually trying to unearth all of the stuff that we've all known exists.

Every one of us.

Glenn usually comes out, you know, six years later.

There's an article that you read and are like, did you guys know in 2020 that they actually had had a fund that sat there and now it's all gone, of course, but blah, blah, blah.

No, we're catching it in real time for once.

I know.

It's great.

I know.

It's again, Elon Musk and AI.

AI is finding a lot of this stuff.

Interesting.

Lee Zeldon also tweeted, I just canceled a $50 million Biden-era environmental justice grant to the Climate Justice Alliance, which believes, quoting, climate justice travels through a free Palestine.

$50 million.

We were funding all of the worst people.

I mean,

it's just

sickening what we're seeing.

Now, Doge just has updated their website now.

If you have your computer in front of you, go to a doge.gov because everybody's complaining, I can't believe that he's coming with no receipts.

And he's just saying all this stuff is happening.

He's like, by Valentine's Day, the latest Valentine's Day, we'll have it all posted online.

Still waiting for that.

It says at the top of the website.

Let me see if I can get to it here real quick.

That it is,

you know, they're waiting for the additional receipts that will be posted by today, they claim.

But just what they have posted is pretty incredible.

Do you have it by any chance?

The doge.gov?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's up on the screen.

Yeah, I know.

But I want to go to the actual website.

Doge.

Doge.gov.

I got it here.

Yeah, it looks like they're kind of, they've almost got like what looks like a Twitter feed, right?

Yeah.

And is that what they're doing?

They're just posting their actual Twitter feed on it.

No, no, no, no.

Go click on some of it.

First of all,

what's the first box say we need?

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Okay, so now everything has a picture, but if you go over at the top, look at the nav bar, it says savings, and this is where the receipts are coming.

And they're supposed to be up by today.

So, you know, the New York Times is just writing stuff saying, he don't have any proof of that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he does.

He said he was going to produce all the receipts by Valentine's Day.

So we'll see if he makes that.

But then you look at meet the U.S.

government.

If you click over to workforce,

holy cow.

There are 2,252,162 employees in the executive branch alone.

2,252,000

in the subordinate offices, $16,000.

And the total wages just for the executive branch is $211 billion every year.

So you go down and you see the cabinet-level agencies, the large independent agencies, medium and small independent agencies.

Just look at the

agencies

that we have.

And if you click on the agencies, let's go to

Department of Defense.

Then it breaks down the Department of Defense into its agencies, how many people work for that, how many subordinate offices, and the total wages for that.

On this,

when you click on like Department of Air Force, it shows you the structure, but it's also going to show you what they have found.

In the future, it will show you what they have found in each department.

I don't understand how anyone could be against this.

We're not talking about, you know, arguing about what's important or what's not.

If the president says and the people have said, we don't want any of this DEI stuff,

then it shouldn't be there and we should be able to track that.

But when it comes to the Department of Defense and some of these other, it's literally about finding all of these NGOs that God only knows what they've done with the money.

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Hello, America.

Welcome to the Glen Beck program.

I want to talk to you about some of the stuff that Donald Trump has done

and just get your feelings on how you think things are going,

anything that you're concerned about.

888-727-BECK.

I've got a lot of stuff that's just happened over the last 24 hours that we have to talk about.

But I want to check in with you first on the phones.

Greg in Ohio.

Hello, Greg.

Hey, Glenn, how are you?

I'm great, man.

Thanks for listening.

I just wanted to call.

I've been voting since 1980.

My first vote was for Reagan,

which at the time also included McConnell.

I've been waiting for the last 45 years for somebody to come into our federal government and just turn the thing upside down.

And I'm loving every bit of of this right now.

I know.

The team that he's put together, I'm fully in the camp that it was a good, it was actually good that what happened in 2020 happened.

The last four years were terrible,

but that provided a lot of focus for Trump.

He learned a lot of lessons and put together a team that every last one of them, I mean, they're just every part of our government right now.

is going through an overhaul and I couldn't be happier.

I know.

It's amazing.

I've never seen, thank you, Greg, for for your call.

I've never seen an administration have every cabinet person

so focused and working together.

You know what I mean?

It's like they're finding something.

They're like, yeah, that needs to go over to justice and justice is saying, I need this from Homeland Security.

They're all working together.

They're all working in lockstep.

And they seem to have

the people underneath.

I haven't seen a single person in the cabinet yet kind of floundering like, I don't know, I'm I'm being sabotaged by my people, except for Cash, who's not in yet.

Yeah, that's true.

There hasn't been a lot of that, which you usually do get.

Actually, one of my favorite moments of the past couple of weeks was the other day when Elon Musk is sitting there, standing there with his kid, you know,

and

they said something to him about something he, I guess, tweeted that was wrong and they fact-checked it or whatever.

And Elon Musk was like, you know, some of the things I say will be wrong.

And I was thinking to myself, like,

that's not that you shouldn't say that, right?

Like, every, every lesson you know about politics says you should not just say that.

But that's true.

It's true.

Everybody says that.

It's true about every single person on earth.

You know what?

Some of the stuff I say will be wrong.

And you should know that.

And like, if we can, and he's moving so fast and he's going to break things.

And sometimes these things are, there's going to be mistakes made.

There's going to be, but like the intent here is to root all this stuff out.

And you wonder why all this stuff builds up over a long period of time.

It's because the intent is to keep it there.

The intent is not, is this not a mistake?

There's not $20 billion in some account because, oh gosh, we missed the $20 billion.

It's because there's an entire, you know,

foundation and an entire city built on trying to keep those things in place.

And we finally have a couple of people who seem interested in rooting all that out.

And it's not going to be perfect.

There are going to be things that go wrong, I'm sure.

But like, wow, it's just just great to see that attitude and approach.

But here's the problem.

The complaints aren't even real.

First of all, you see the people that went into

a Senate hearing yesterday and they were protesting.

They're like, well, you've got to fix

the aid to AIDS in Africa.

That's important.

And they were kicked out.

And the secretary just looked up to the Senate and said, They must not pay attention at all because that was fixed two weeks ago.

Right.

We did that two weeks ago.

To be fair, there's a lot to follow right now.

No, there is a lot to follow.

But you think if you're going to organize a group,

that's your one thing.

No, you should know that.

Let me go to Jeff in Arizona.

Hello, Jeff.

Glenn, I'm going to get right to it because this is such an important thought.

This is already a known thought.

It's out there, and I believe Trump was actually talking about it during his 2020 election campaign, and that is a national citizenship ID card, which he can do as as the executive.

With the pen and the phone, he can from a national department, I'm going to suggest it's the Treasury Department, order out national ID cards.

And I think you know the reason why is because de facto, this can then act as voter ID.

And this will then act as the death nail, the actual knife in the heart of the Marxist progressive left to get control over our vote.

And the way it de facto acts as as in a voter ID card is the states just adopt it.

And you're going to immediately have 15 to 20 states who already want voter ID who will just say, oh, we suddenly have a national citizenship ID card.

This will now be used as voter ID card.

And you will create a wave across the country and you will kill the voting corruption from the progressive left.

And I have a vision I want to cast on how he gets to that, but please.

Yeah, hang on just a second.

I just would like to say, I don't think I'm for a national ID.

I don't like anything national, especially when it comes to our ID.

That sounds like it's one step away from

a digital ID, which I'm absolutely against.

I could understand if you are not here legally, if you are, you know, even here on a visa, you are not a natural-born citizen.

You could be required to have a national ID.

But

I don't like the government with any more lists of anybody else.

Just don't like it.

I'm surprised to hear you say that because everything in life has a trade-off.

And when you look at killing voter fraud, when you hear, I get what you're saying, Glenn, but when you look at the upside of killing voter fraud and killing, you know these groups, Metcha, La Raza,

leftist groups who want to literally overthrow our country by polluting our votes.

This would kill that because the national government can do that and then the states can just adopt it.

And then here's the vision on how it would go through the Treasury Department is you already have a national card.

This pathetic little piece of construction paper that comes mailed to you.

This literally, the social security card, the most important number in your life

is to this day, just like we got this stupid mine seven stories down with paperwork for people's retirement, the most important number in your life, this is what I said would come with the Treasury Department.

The Treasury Department just simply changes over to a hard card that protects beyond our Social Security number, protects the most important thing we have, Glenn, our citizenship.

Our citizenship.

They've already been talking about it.

It's already out there.

And I would love to see

Trump sign on July 4th of this year the protect citizen secure citizen card, secure citizenship ID, July 4th of this year.

And everybody next year

on the 250th anniversary of the Declaration has a Protect Citizenship ID card in their hand.

Jeff, I'd like to hear more about it.

I am against national ID, but

when you're bringing up the Social Security, if it's nothing more than a glorified,

very, very, very hard to recreate, and you actually have a fence around Social Security.

Maybe.

Maybe, but I don't know.

I don't know.

Again, they've talked about, when I've heard Trump talk about national ID, the idea is more for

typically we're talking about legal migrants, right?

Like the idea that you would have an

identification for those who are here legally that have to hit a different standard than a U.S.

citizen would have to hit.

Like a

sophisticated green card.

Yeah.

I think that's a little bit more

because you talk about this, you know, the states will adopt it.

Well, what states?

Is California adopting it?

Probably not.

Like, what you're going to do is, if anything, you'd have red states doing it, which would be great, I guess.

But I mean, there are probably a lot less fewer problems in those states anyway.

And again, we have to also project past Donald Trump.

What does a national ID card look like when you have the next president in who wants to do all sorts of things with it that are going to make you very uncomfortable?

I think giving

there are a lot of ways to push back against voter.

I mean, voter ID law is something that you could pass, but states would be the ones

in control of that.

And I think that's a better approach.

You must be in control of the vote, never the federal government.

Right.

It's really tempting because we all are like, oh, we want to get the vote results.

Right.

Immediately on election night.

We should just have a national election.

And it's very tempting to people, but there's a very bad path that that leads down

uh all right let me take uh chuck in kentucky hello chuck hey glenn great to talk to you again we met about 15 years ago in melbourne florida oh my gosh chuck ah we were just talking about you chuck yeah yeah no no no we love you we love you thank you man we love you thank you uh a couple of things yeah one thank you for supporting pre-born My wife and I support them as well.

Awesome.

Great organization.

For the most part, I'm really happy with what Trump is doing.

I love the Doge stuff.

I'm a little concerned about the Gaza stuff and how that's going to work out.

Yeah.

Hang on just a second.

Let's say more than

on that.

If we're actually taking over things in Gaza, I don't think that's a good idea.

What if they build a nice pickleball facility there?

That would be nice.

Yeah, maybe we can

roll and just make a big pickleball cover.

Doesn't this just strike you, though?

I, you know, I just, it just strikes me as just pure Trump negotiation.

Yeah, it kind of even except I saw a story today.

Let me see if I can find it,

to where I think it's the UAE said, the ambassador to America from the UAE said, I don't think there's any way to stop that.

I just think that's the best.

You got a better idea.

Go for it.

And I'm like, somebody's got to come up with a better idea than that.

Now, I don't mind if

we have American business over there.

You know, the Waldorf Astoria wants to build some hotels over there.

Yeah.

Go for it.

And he's kind of said that it's not going to be taxpayer dollars, not U.S.

troops.

Any troops over there.

But again,

it's not very America first.

It's not consistent with most of his platform here.

To me, it's just very much him saying, like, hey, guys, release these hostages.

Do it.

Because we will just take this land from you and you will go to different countries and we'll build resorts.

Yeah.

So get it done.

And I think what he has done is he's changed the narrative.

Yeah.

You know, all of the countries around were not talking about,

wait, the Gazans have to stay in the Gaza Strip.

No, no, no.

Nobody was talking about that.

They were like, we can't have the United States come in and build anything there.

That's what I mean.

And that's what you need in that situation is to change the conversation.

How long have we been talking about?

All right, two-state solution.

It's not going to work.

Stop it.

Stop it.

Change the solution.

If you guys want to stay on this land, you will start acting like

civilized people yep and while i'm sure there are some there that have yep generally speaking when you look at the polls not all that encouraging so change what you're doing or things are going to change all right let me uh let me go to rob in indiana

glenn yeah

Thank you so much for taking calls, man.

There's so many of us that just want to get through and talk to you.

And I understand things have changed,

but it just is what it is.

We love taking calls.

Call whenever you want.

We don't solicit for them enough anymore because we just get off ranting on stuff, but you're always welcome to call.

The line's always open.

DJ's in there screening your calls.

He's yelling at people most of the time.

I don't know what he's doing in there, but triple 8727 back.

Thank you.

That's right.

Mr.

Executive Preacher.

You know, I've been a listener.

Yeah.

I've been a listener from the beginning.

And

I'm a Blaze subscriber.

Last night I purchased tickets to go to the American Journey Experience.

Really?

Oh, cool.

I'm going to to make a pilgrimage in March to Dallas.

I think I'm around in March.

So you make sure you tell the

people over at the museum that we spoke and I'd love to see you when you come.

But anyway, go ahead.

Okay.

Hey, that would be great.

Yeah.

But anyway, I love everything.

You know, I can't believe how close we came to the point of no return.

Yeah.

And, you know,

it is unbelievable.

You know, voting day, it was like this thing.

We all knew it in our gut, in our soul, and in everything within us knew how close we were and how dire

everything was.

And thank God,

you know, that things went the way they did.

Yeah, and

literally, thank God.

Because I think he stepped in and did it.

Real quick, what is the one thing that you say concerns you?

Oh, well, if people don't start going to jail,

all this will just be a four-year blip.

Yeah.

Well, here's the good news.

Cash Patel got out of committee yesterday.

He's going to be confirmed maybe early next week because they just had to go to Germany.

All these senators had to go to

stay home.

Take care of business here, quite honestly.

But they're going to confirm him next week.

Now you have Pam Bondi.

She's already issuing

charges around the country.

And when Cash Patel comes in, I think you're going to see a massive change in the FBI and DOJ.

And that's, you have to have the FBI to start putting people in jail.

That's the last piece to come into play.

And it's going to happen next week.

So let's watch what happens beginning next week because I think it's going to happen quickly.

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Well, I got to tell you, I think the

left just doesn't know what to do.

They are on the the ropes.

And then you put somebody like David Hoggin

as

vice chair of the DNC.

Yeah, what are you thinking?

They've learned nothing.

Nothing.

I think they're just panicking right now.

And there is a reason to believe, if we're being honest here, that the American people are fickle.

And they usually just run out of gas for whoever's in office.

And I, you know, you can't look ahead and think, okay, this is 40 years of success ahead.

Like, they're going to do something.

Right now, they're flailing, though.

But we're three weeks into this.

We need to remember.

But you also have to remember that it wasn't too long ago that books were being written how the Republican Party will never come back.

Yeah.

It's over.

It'll be 100 years of Democratic rule.

There was a book,

was it James Carville that wrote it about how Republicans would be a regional party only?

Yes.

This is after Barack Obama's 2008 election.

The 2010 election was the biggest wave election in 100 years.

That's how fast this stuff can dry up.

So this is why I'm so encouraged by what Trump is doing here, in that we are at a situation that he's realizing that he doesn't maybe have the longest road to do all of this stuff.

He's got to get it done, and hopefully it works and excites the American people.

And we

don't lose the House, for example, in 2026,

which is usually what happens.

You have to have somebody competent to run, somebody who has vision.

I mean, you know, when you're putting in as your vice chair, David Hogg, it doesn't show, you know,

it's a somewhat meaningless role.

Yeah, I know that.

But still,

it shows me that you are,

you're still on the same message.

You know, I was talking to somebody yesterday.

Do we have that picture of the front of Rockefeller Center?

This is one of the buildings in Rockefeller Center.

Pull it up if you can online.

And it is a glass cutting of the front of Rockefeller Center.

Do you have it?

They are working on it.

Okay.

They are working on it, Glenn.

Okay.

There it is.

So it's hard to see, but see, there's two horses and then the strong guy, naked, standing, holding those horses back.

He's standing on a chariot, and the two horses are being held back.

Looks like he works out.

And there is a sunrise right in front of the horses, and you'll see the youth

in in front of the horses kind of leading the horses.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

So what this means is this is this is the

the socialist movement, the Democratic Party.

This is

the horses represent industry.

The strongman in the chariot is the government and it's holding back the reins of industry.

It's got industry completely in its grip and control.

And And the youth of tomorrow lead us into the sunrise in the new chapter.

This is socialism.

This is what they're still offering us, where Trump is saying, no, we don't want the strong guy in the chariot.

We don't want that.

And we just want competent people.

I don't care if they're 12.

or 112.

If they're competent, we just want competent people

setting the course for us.

And that could be, it doesn't necessarily have to be elected.

The elected guy is in the chariot.

I want that guy just to be

really small and really not even in the picture,

quite honestly.

Yeah.

I mean, this goes back to the speech J.D.

Vance made this week about AI, which we haven't really discussed all that much.

But it was like really encouraging.

It was like saying, hey, we're freaking America here.

You know, we're going to, of course, we're going to dominate this industry, obviously.

Do we want it?

Yeah.

So we're we're going to take it.

And like that, we're not going to lose to China.

Like it was like, it wasn't, it wasn't apologizing for that.

It wasn't saying, well, really, we should give this technology to everyone because everyone needs it.

And no, it was just like, no, we're the best at it and we're going to do it.

And

we're going to do everything we can to make sure we're the ones in control of this because it's not only important for our economy, but also for the nation's security.

And the freedom of the world.

Yeah.

Quite honestly.

Do you see what James Cameron came out and said?

Normally, I don't care what James Cameron said, but because he's the guy, you know, with Skynet and the Terminator,

he came out and said,

you know,

I wrote a fictional nightmare.

He said, but this time it's not fictional.

It's not speculation.

It's already happening.

That's a quote from him.

He said, it's a scarier scenario than what I presented in the Terminator 40 years ago.

If for no other reason than it's no longer science fiction, it's happening right now.

You'll be living in a world that you didn't agree to, didn't vote for, are forced to share with a super intelligent entity that wants to follow the goals of a corporation.

This entity will have access to your communications, beliefs, everything you ever said, and the whereabouts of every person in the country through personal data.

He said its ability to predict and influence human behavior.

This is surveillance capitalism.

And surveillance capitalism can toggle pretty quickly into digital totalitarianism.

This is the hard place, is I don't want the government to own it, but I also don't trust corporations to own it.

I trust corporations more than I trust the government.

I do.

That one's not a tough decision for me.

I understand it's ⁇ I feel like it's a little more difficult than maybe conservatives felt at one point.

I mean, I distrust them equally.

It's not like I trust one more than the other.

I distrust both of them.

I trust corporations more, and the reason is that there's actual competition between them.

And it's not, I don't trust any individual corporation necessarily, but like the

impacts of the market, I think, generally speaking, lead us to good things.

But

it's up for debate, of course.

I mean, the problem here is you sort of have to choose one path or another.

And I can tell you, I do not want centralized control of AI.

No.

Do I want

guardrails around it for national security purposes?

Sure.

But when it comes to whether I don't love tech companies, for example, I think

there's been a lot of good things,

but there's been a lot of bad things.

That being said, the difference between that and the government is, to me, there's a pretty bright line there.

I have to tell you that

if you look at what's happening in Europe and Canada, I mean, did you hear that Canada are now trying to pass a bill that you can go to prison if you say anything favorable about oil, gas, or coal?

Go to jail.

That's sensible.

Yeah.

That's going to work out really well, isn't it?

I mean,

these are products that have built our civilization.

Exactly right.

You can't run,

not just built it in the past.

We can't live without any of that stuff.

Nope.

And they're like, oh, you can't even talk about it positively.

That's crazy.

It's basically crazy about everything, let alone something that's been really positive to our world.

Also, Linda McMahon, yesterday, she talked about in her confirmation hearing,

she said,

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This is her plan.

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Unfortunately, many Americans today are experiencing a system in decline.

I think she's, I think, I mean, I don't know how you argue

against these things.

I really don't.

We all know our schools are failing like crazy.

And she was asked, does that mean you're going to cut off the funds for schools that need

help because they're in low tax base.

No.

No, we'll still help those,

but we're going to get rid of all of this crap that you're required to do to get any of that money.

They have to be run.

The classrooms need to be run by the parents and the teachers locally, not some bureaucrats in Washington, D.C.

Yeah.

And she, McMahon's a real advocate for school choice.

This is an incredible.

I mean, this is we have a real opportunity to make a massive difference for millions of children in this four-year period.

And it's really exciting.

Even here in Texas, where we had an election,

you know, we talked about the House Speaker situation, who did not go the way that conservatives were hoping here in Texas.

But at least as of today,

Burroughs, who's the guy who is not the more conservative option, is claiming that they are going to go forward with school choice in Texas.

I mean, we're at the point that now even what you might call, you know, the Rhino contingency is like, okay, yeah, we'll do that.

This is incredible, Glenn.

We've been talking about this policy for 20 years

longer than that.

But, you know, as long as as long as this show's been on the air, we've been discussing it as this sort of like pie in the sky.

Hey, maybe that will

vouchers.

Like, like it was this thing that would never occur.

And all of a sudden, it's occurring all over the country.

So here's what concerns me is Donald Trump is, I love these people who are coming out from the Democratic side saying, oh, have you checked inflation?

No, there is no inflation.

This is the greatest economy ever.

What are you talking about?

Bidenflation is, you know, the work against inflation that Biden has been doing, Bidenomics, that's working.

It's the greatest thing ever.

I can't believe people who told us for four years there was no such thing as inflation are now crying, you know, the inflation numbers.

And I'm happy to say that our president is saying, yes, inflation is, it's going to go up and it's going to be hard.

And we're working to reverse that.

He's at least recognizing the reality of the situation.

And it is going to go up and get worse before it gets better.

We talked about this before.

We talked about this before November.

It's concerning, though.

It is concerning.

Because if it goes, look,

think about the average person.

They're not sitting here like you are listening to a bunch of talk radio and

thinking about these issues.

If these prices go up and they continue to, if it feels like Biden, they won't care what else is going on

you've got a very short runway with hey there's going to be some pain here you just need to take it and it'll get better later that that can work worked with reagen i would argue i mean the early remember i mean inflation in in that in 81 82 was really high and then it came down and everything was fine and he wanted a landslide so it's it's possible to turn it around but you know it's it's a it's a tough tight wire uh tightwire walk you know i'm looking at the price of gold what is the price of gold It's almost $3,000 an ounce.

It was yesterday.

It was

$29.61.

I'm looking for that because this is the seventh weekly gain on

gold, and it has something to do with the trade war.

But also something else is happening with gold, and we're not sure exactly what it is.

But it looks as though some people are thinking that we're going to go back and revalue all of our gold, which would be good if you had gold um you know really good if you had gold but uh it's going to be it's going to cause problems because of the dollar getting stronger etc etc it's the the cure is not going to be worse than the disease but the cure is going to make it seem as though the disease is getting worse before it gets better.

By the way, one other thing that happened yesterday, you know, Rachel Maddow came on and she was like, yeah, I told you.

I told you elon musk i'm sorry it's rachel maddow i told you that elon musk was double dealing right am i right emissen and msnbc rachel maddow viewers i'm always right right right so that he's you know what he did

He just got the government to buy 400 million.

That's almost half a billion dollars of armored Tesla vehicles, and he got a contract through the state to buy me.

What a jerk.

Wow.

What a bastard.

That's unbelievable, Glenn.

I know.

You know, the fact is, he got, well, this is what happened, Glenn, is his money bought influence with Donald Trump.

Yeah.

And then Donald Trump gets elected, probably falsely, by the way.

And then

Musk becomes the real president and just directs all this money to his own company.

Right, you are.

Thank you.

Says Rachel Maddow.

Unfortunately, 100% wrong.

The government, because of green energy, can you imagine how long these batteries last carrying around an armored vehicle?

Like, what are they?

Like 10 minutes out of the car.

Elon would not agree with that.

Yeah, so he's

Biden wanted armored vehicles for the State Department and he wanted them all EVs.

So he put out a bid.

The only one that responded to the bid was Tesla.

Okay.

Nobody else responded to the bid.

Everybody else was like,

10 minutes.

I don't think that'll be good.

So

he was the high bidder on the government's list of providing all of these vehicles.

However, Trump stopped that, said it's not going to happen.

So Rachel Maddow is, oh, geez, man, I got to tell you, a pack of cool cigarettes and maybe some Elka-Seltzer and I'm going to be fine.

I'm going to get over this.

But I'm telling you right now, all lies.

All of that is...

is not true.

They are so desperate.

Yeah, I'd be really, I mean, if you had a network that cared, you'd be really concerned about that.

I mean, she does one show a week.

The main focus of her monologue wasn't even true.

Like, that's got to be really concerning as a network, you would think, in any other circumstance.

You know, I was going to say, wow, I didn't know she was doing one show a week.

And then I thought, no, the real wow is, wow, she's still doing one show a week?

Maybe.

She's their star.

I know she is.

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hey Glenn I met you 15 years ago

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Wow.

It's you, Jim.

We were just talking about it.

What happened to Jim?

I had a jacket that said death to ISIS, you know, anyway.

Oh, yeah, sure.

I remember now, yeah.

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The 501c status that is currently still being retained by two what I consider domestic organizations.

That's the American branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, CARE,

which and Black Lives Matter.

They both have 501c status.

I think, and if I'm not mistaken, the DOS team even showed that U.S.

aid money was going to Black Lives Matter as well.

I think that their funds need to be seized.

They need to have their 501c status shut down.

And actually, they need to be designated terrorist organizations like the cartels.

And the second thing I want to make real quick and finish up with is, I love Pam Bondi.

I love Trump's team.

I'm really excited.

Except there's only one downside on that is threatening lawsuits.

No, I think an example needs to be made of Phil Murphy in New Jersey openly admitting to committing a federal offense of harboring a fugitive that's illegal in his garage.

That's an amazing story.

Trump said, bring it on, Trump.

Good luck if you try removing people from my city.

Yeah.

No, those two guys need to be dragged into jail, not just lawsuits.

They need to be charged and arrested and squatted.

That's all I've done.

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We're glad you're here.

You know, Elon Musk said yesterday that if you can have a federal judge stop a president, then we don't live in a democracy.

That's not entirely true.

If there is a law passed by Congress, then the president has to remain in that law.

And you have three branches of government.

However, the reason why Donald Trump can get away with a lot of stuff is because,

and this is why the government needs to be shrunk down because the power of the president is far too great.

He's got 2 million employees and he's got all of these different agencies.

And if you go to doge.gov,

if you look under regulations, you'll see they've they've put together the unconstitutionality index.

And there are agencies that have been created and created without

Congress.

And then it shows you the number of regulations that are passed by Congress for each of these.

And then the actual regulations.

For instance, there are in the

which one is this one?

The

oh, this is by year.

So let me go 2024.

2024.

There were

176 laws passed for the administration, and there were 3.25,000

3,200, 500, 32,000, no.

3,250.

3,250, yes, thank you.

3,250 regulations passed by these agencies.

So what the president can do is say, all those regulations, nope, because government, the Constitution says that Congress

is to enact these things.

Congress just abandoned their role because they never wanted to get in trouble for passing something that was unpopular with the American people.

That is what he's trying to take back:

reduce the code of federal regulations.

There are 215,000 sections of regulation and 98 million words of regulation.

None of it was passed.

That's way too much power for all of these organizations.

Let me go to Sherry in North Carolina.

Hello, Sherry.

Happy Valentine's Day.

How are you doing today?

Very good.

Rub it in.

Sorry about that.

That's all right.

I'm just a little exuberant because RFK was formally sworn in yesterday.

And that is

immensely important to people in the medical freedom movement.

Incredible.

I didn't choose to be in the medical freedom movement.

I consider myself an accidental member because most people join that movement after they've been

injured or someone's been killed.

Right.

So,

yeah,

I'm one of them.

We've been praying for him to at least be confirmed and

sworn in because our hope is,

our goal is

that he will be able to have some effect on getting rid of the PrEP Act.

What's the PrEP Act?

What's the PrEP Act?

PrEP Act.

The PrEP Act, oh dear, you're going to ask me what it is.

Pandemic readiness and preparedness, I believe.

Got it, got it, got it, got it.

And

I have heard attorneys describe it as the most evil document they've ever read.

Because one of the things it does is it gives the HHS secretary, once the emergency is proclaimed, it gives the HHS Secretary complete

and utter control over large portions of the government, even more control than the president has in some cases.

And one of the major sticking points within it

is a structure that says that,

particularly under pandemic preparedness, is that whatever the government says is a covered countermeasure.

So that as long as you, as a medical professional, do whatever the government has laid out as a protocol, which was what we all know happened in the hospital under COVID.

Once that was enacted, all covered countermeasures became immune to suit or prosecution.

And in 2020, almost every state

also wrote their own laws that codified that on a state level so that no matter, literally,

no matter what happened in a hospital, as long as that patient was classified as a COVID patient,

judges will not hear it, prosecutors will not prosecute it, attorneys will not recognize it,

and in many cases, most cases,

Family members of the patients

are unaware of what's really going on because they were locked out.

Well, I think you're right about RFK being an answered prayer on that one, because that is exactly what he has been railing against.

And it's strange because he used to be for kind of these kinds of things until he saw it in action.

So I think you're going to have that prayer answered for you probably pretty quickly.

Let me play something that I promised the last caller in the last half hour.

We were talking,

you know, he said, you know, consequences need to happen.

I want you to listen to Tom Holman on

sanctuary cities.

Listen to this.

What do you say to the people of America tonight about those people who are holding on to sanctuary status?

We'll see you in court.

Pam Bonnie is going to take these sanctuary cities out.

We're going to pull federal funding.

We're going to start suing people.

If we have to, if we have to,

if they impede us, actively impede us, or if they're going to harbor and conceal an illegal alien from from us especially a child predator we're going to seek prosecution and pam bondi's all in so goves are off game over we're coming so you can hide all you want but i'm not going to be satisfied to every gang member every tda member we eradicate from this country every illegal gang member they need to be gone

he is uh

he's very

uh confident in that pambondi is very confident the one piece you don't have yet is the director of the FBI.

That will happen with Cash Patel next week.

When that comes in, boy, if you were a Sanctuary City, I would look out.

If you were an FBI agent that was responsible for the leaking of what our ICE agents were going to do, I think it was in Denver or Los Angeles, and you put these guys in danger, you're in trouble.

You are in big, big trouble because they're serious about it.

And that's the way it needs to be.

Tim, in West Virginia, you're on the Glenn Beck program.

This is awesome, Glenn.

You are absolutely a hero of mine, and we get to talk to you.

This awesome.

Wow, thank you.

You too, Stan.

You too, Stu.

I love you.

Thank you.

Stan, I think I liked it when he called you Stan.

Just call me Stan.

Yeah, you too, Stan.

I said, Stu.

No, no, no, no, Stan and I want to leave it that way.

But anyway,

go ahead, Tim.

But anyways, I'm going to say I love the cowboy entrance, too.

That has been, I go around the house singing, uh-oh, oh, oh, oh, and my wife is like, what are you doing?

No, I know.

But anyways,

I guess I'm concerned about how fast we are going about these doge cuts.

And I know a lot of the doge or like the DEI stuff, a lot of it is tied to a lot of disability things.

And I'm a healthcare worker.

I'm also a pastor.

And so I look at that and I see these people in my congregation, things like that, that are worried that they're going to cut food for kids and things like that.

You hear those sort of things.

And so I'm just afraid, are we throwing the baby out with the bathwater?

And like, I know there's going to be some temporary pain in this, but how long will the people that really need the help the most have to suffer?

No,

I think there are going to be some pain and some things that slip through the cracks, but they're not cutting food, welfare,

any of that stuff that is not connected to the appearance, at least, of massive graft and fraud.

The essentials of medicine and food are not being cut.

As the people found out yesterday, when they were in a Senate hearing and they started shouting at the secretary saying,

you've got to put the AIDS

packages back in from USAID for Africa.

AIDS is a real problem.

They started chanting and screaming and they were escorted out.

As the Secretary said, that happened like 24 hours after we, I mean, we cut everything and said put it on hold.

And then we started going through what's real and what's not.

And we restored that.

so stop your belly aching i don't think that's the problem um that you're going to see what i think is the problem is cutting so rapidly um and not

growing the economy fast enough uh we are changing

everything we're changing this whole model remember before uh there was obamacare do you remember what was it 21 percent of the uh industry in america was controlled by government, something like that.

18%.

It's higher than that, I think.

No,

now it's in its 40s.

But it used to be much smaller.

You want to be careful on what you cut and how you cut and the effects of these tariffs.

He needs to grow the economy at the same time.

Right.

Because pain, people don't like and chaos people don't like.

Exactly right.

A lot of those things, you know, you got to be really careful with that stuff.

I also say, we talked about this a little bit off there, Glenn, but like, if you're looking at the success of Doge, I think, in my opinion, the wrong standard is to look at how much money they cut.

You will find some cutting of spending here and there, but like the way you cut spending in the United States budget is to reform Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security.

That's where you're then defense.

There are ways you can do it, but they are big programs, and a lot of this is required spending by Congress, and you can't cut that stuff.

You can make things more efficient.

You can come in under budget for like, you had a $100 million program.

You might only spend $75 million and be able to get the same stuff done, but you're not going to notice that.

And we talk about these employees, you know, 75,000 employees resigned.

You know, they're spending a couple hundred billion dollars a year on employees.

$211.

$211 billion.

If they cut all of that, would anyone even notice?

I mean, from a

dollar perspective.

Right.

We send that to Ukraine.

It seems like weekly.

So

it's not necessarily going to be the money.

What you need to look at is the regulations.

If they're cutting that, that they're making these things more efficient, they're and that they're able to put in a bill that locks these things in long-term, which will have longer-term effects.

I don't know that they're going to honestly cut

at the end of the day, will our budget go up or down from last year?

My guess is the spending still goes up.

That's because a lot of this is locked in from Congress.

Yeah, there's nothing you can do about it.

The House put together a new budget and it's $4.7 trillion.

That's still about a trillion dollars more than we bring in.

Minor issue.

issue.

Yeah,

minor issue.

But it's down from what?

The six?

Now, if Doge, and they won't be able to do it in the first year, if Doge can cut a trillion dollars from the budget, that helps.

That helps.

But not enough.

I mean, if we actually lived within our means and we took in $3 trillion and spent 2.9 would be nice, but $3 trillion, that alone would change everything with our loans, with us refinancing our

mortgage, if you will, the debt.

We have to redo a lot of that debt, and it's going to be at higher interest rates.

We're paying a trillion dollars now in interest rates.

If we can take this and make these loans long term and we're showing our creditors that we're now living within our means, There's a chance we could turn things around pretty quickly.

But that is going to be almost impossible to do.

The nice thing is he's moving so quickly now that if he can get a lot of this big stuff done

before,

you know, the midterms,

we'll have a good start on it, but we've got to get our

Congress

to codify these things.

You know, yesterday he just He just cut, what was that, Elizabeth Warren thing, you know, consumer protection.

Oh, yeah.

He just cut that to zero.

Well, you can't do that.

That's that's uh it got to go through Congress.

No, actually, no, you don't.

Because Elizabeth Warren and Barack Obama were so arrogant, they made it go through the Federal Reserve.

And they just funded the Federal Reserve and said, you know, here's a

quarter of a trillion dollars, you know, for this agency.

And then the Federal Reserve doles that out.

Well, the president just said, zero.

We're not giving you zero, and we don't want any money from the Federal Reserve for this.

So because they didn't do it through Congress, it's gone.

However, if Trump loses the next election or his, you know, his predecessor,

if he loses,

then that thing's coming right back.

That's why it has to be done and codified by Congress.

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And Don.

Don, we only have about a minute.

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

Yes, God bless you, Glenn, and your whole staff.

Thank you.

You have said many times that we are all put here for a reason at this time and this place, and it's obvious that President Trump was put here at this time and this place for us.

And he has more energy, wisdom, and courage than I think any other human on the planet.

I think so too.

I've come to realize that I think Biden was put here also for a reason.

And I didn't like it.

I was very angry and frustrated when it happened.

But I've come to realize that he was put here to make things so bad in this country that it had.

That's what opened up the eyes of so many millions of people.

I'm not sure if God plays chess quite like that.

I think he lets us live with the ramifications of our own choices.

But then if you choose correctly, he can make the worst things turn into great things, which he did with Biden and Trump.

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I saw a great movie last night with one of my favorite actors, Zachary Levi.

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I'm well.

Thank you, Glenn.

Good to be back and talking to you.

Yeah, I know.

So good.

I thought you were coming in today, but Texas is a large state and you have a Cybertruck.

And what, you'd have to stop and plug that thing in three times?

I think it's a couple charges to get up to Dallas.

Well, good to talk to you again.

I just watched your movie last night, my wife and I, and just loved it.

It is such a good movie.

Thank you.

Yeah, I'm

listening.

I'm very grateful for the career that God's blessed me with over these 25 years and very proud of lots of things I've done, but I am particularly proud of this film.

I think it's honestly,

it was kind of a miracle that it even happened.

It's very God-breathed.

It happened in the height of the pandemic.

And, you know, just the right of us, the right number of us and people came together to make this very, you know, it's slice of life.

It's a grounded film, as you know, as you've seen it.

You know, there's nothing big or splashy or, you know, big special effects or anything.

It's a true story about a family, you know, navigating life and all of its complexities, but specifically navigating the waters of having a child.

on the autistic spectrum.

And I have never seen or heard of a film like ours that tackles it in such an authentic and beautiful way.

And also, you know, diving into the human condition of the parents as they are trying to figure out how to love themselves and each other and their children.

And it's powerful, you know, but it's also done with

such a

big heart.

And so it never feels like you're trudging through the drama.

too much or too long.

It's there to provide the groundedness of, you know, and the redemption in the story.

Because as you know, we all go through our darkness.

And if we don't tell that part of the story, then I don't think you ever really get the triumph of coming around at the end and having enlightenment and waking up to bigger and better things in your life.

I mean, my character specifically, the father, you know, his journey is, and, you know, kind of then what the messaging in the film is, and the large part is what it means to radically accept the life that God has given you and radically surrender to it.

And when you do, when we do that, you know, it's amazing the peace and the love, the radical love that flows from us and into those around us.

And so I just think it's something that's applicable to everybody, you know, and now, as it turns out, because autism has become so ubiquitous, you know, we're all touched by it in some way.

And so I think it's even that resonates with almost everyone.

I have to tell you, this rang so true in my life.

I mean, it was almost in many ways, many parts of it.

And I probably think you are kind of in this world too, where so much of it rang so true.

I spent a lot of the time

crying in a way of relating, but also

crying with tears of joy.

The kid that is represented,

which he's a real kid, this is a true story.

But the actor who plays him is

incredible.

There is such joy in that kid.

What's he like?

He's a really special kid.

He's got such a beautiful heart, and we were so lucky to have found him.

Like I said, I mean, very God-breathed, everything.

And all the rest of the cast, Megan Fahey, who plays my wife, and Peter Facinelli, Andrew Powell, and Amy Acker, Patty Heaton, Patricia Heaton plays my mom.

She's great too.

Yeah, and everyone kind of slid right into their role and inhabited it so authentically.

But Jacob, as you were pointing out, really has such a special energy that he brings to this character, Austin, who, as you said, yes, is

a real kid who's about 31 now.

But Jacob just brings that effervescence and optimism to life in a way that really

affects obviously us in the story, but affects the viewer, affects the audience.

You can feel it.

It's palpable.

Yeah.

And

he doesn't have any disabilities himself.

He's just a regular kid.

As far as I know, yeah,

I've never heard Jacob having been diagnosed with anything neurodivergent.

Although, listen, man, at this point, I wonder how many of us could probably all be

categorized as being somewhere on some

spectrum, whatever it is.

I mean,

it's fascinating to look at how all of our minds and bodies continue to change and not always for the better as we progress as a society, know specifically with all this technology I mean how wonderful it is that we can be on the phone right now on your show that or I could be you know zooming in or

you know that the things that we have now at our disposal at our fingertips it's pretty incredible and also

it's been a real toxic thing in our lives.

And Blue Light, EMF, like all of these things, they reprogram us.

So

even if we were born and had nothing going on for a long time in our life, you start introducing these types of technologies.

Well, you might start reprogramming your brain in a lot of ways.

So, anyway, that's kind of a tangent, but also, I think, in line with some of the stuff we're going to talk today, like AI.

Yeah.

Um, I want to stay in the movie here for just a second longer.

Um, absolutely.

Oh, no, stay as long as you want.

I want to talk about it.

Yeah, no, it's it's just I just really loved it.

Um, the um

the the kid doesn't only have, um,

uh, you know, he's not only on the scale, but he also has a disease that,

man, I can't even imagine.

He has very breakout.

Osteogenesis imperfecta.

What is it?

Osteogenesis imperfecta, brittle bones disease, essentially.

Oh my gosh.

I mean, and when the baby is born and you find out that my wife and I were talking about it as she was giving birth, we were like, why didn't that break any bones?

And you find out it did, broke two ribs.

And that's why the baby was crying all the time.

You didn't know it at first.

Yeah.

And then he's constantly falling and breaking bones on the simplest of things.

My gosh, what the real parents went through and what the kid went through too.

But I mean, my gosh, that's just turns your life upside down.

Yeah.

No, it's it's definitely,

you know, part of this overall journey that they went on.

And again, a journey that they...

They got pregnant on their third date.

It was definitely a big curveball, but they stepped up to the plate and were like, we're going to go have this child and we'll figure out our relationship as we go.

And so they were already kind of navigating those waters.

Then they've got this new baby that is crying nonstop and they don't even know why until years later when they finally are able to diagnose that he in fact did inherit the genes from his mother to have osteogenesis imperfecta.

And then to have them in pain and be worrying about them constantly that they're going to break another bone.

And I mean,

it's a ride, man.

Like, I can't even imagine what Scott and Teresa were going through in that time.

And for them to continue to stay strong and navigate through that, then just to find out, you know, later on in life, after having their second son, Logan, who, you know, God, God, you know, thank God he was,

he did not have osteogenesis imperfecta and seemingly was, you know, operating in a normal level.

But then Austin was.

starting to operate in very atypical ways only for them to test him and find out that he indeed had autism.

And that's a whole other challenge.

And that for Scott, I think that was him, that was this real struggle with fighting

his life.

Like, this is not my life.

This can't be my life.

Like, I've got these expectations of what my life is supposed to be, which I think is applicable to all of us, right?

We all have these ideas of, no, no, no, no, my life is supposed to go this way or that way.

And we fight and we fight God essentially in that.

We're like, no, it's got to be different.

It's got to be different.

As opposed to radically accepting that, well, perhaps God knows better than me.

And perhaps though though my son, I wish my son would have been born without having to battle these things through his life, that God is still going to use my son in beautiful ways and has.

And that's what was so transformative in that story.

Yeah.

And the fact that you're running away to alcohol

and part of it being, I'm just a bad dad.

I mean,

he's a normal guy

and, you know, he's out on the swings and his son, you know,

has a horrible horrible break.

And, you know, his wife is like, it always happens with you, not with me.

Notice that.

And he just starts to think he's just such a bad guy

and runs from life with alcohol.

And I mean, it's, as somebody who's been there, I get it.

I get it.

And I thought it was really well done.

Thank you, man.

That really means a lot.

And I'm very grateful that you were able to see it before we even talked.

You know, it gives it a lot more context for your viewers and listeners because I really would love for this movie to do well.

And not, you know, obviously biasly, I always want the things that I do to do well, but I think that this is bigger than that.

I think this story is bigger than that.

And,

you know, particularly nowadays with so much content that's out there that I don't think has good messaging or great messaging or that a whole family can actually watch together.

And it speaks to the the human condition in all of us.

And so, yeah, I implore everyone listening, please go see it.

And if you enjoy it, please tell everybody that you know.

And also, not for nothing, but I do encourage people to go to movie theaters.

And I think for, you know, some of the same reasons that some people in my industry talk about it.

But I think there's one thing that is often overlooked.

And it's very important, which is

theaters, you know, historically have been places

that provide us, the public of all different backgrounds and belief systems and whatever, to gather in the same place to experience the same thing.

And what's really powerful about that is, and I think something that's been lost as people have continued to like kind of leave theaters and watch things on television, is that when you're in a public theater with a bunch of people that are not you, that believe different things than you, and you know that, and you're all watching a thing, but yet even though you all have these different opinions and different belief systems, you're all laughing at the same jokes.

You're all crying with the same moments of despair and pain.

And those types of things help to remind us that we are all on this planet together, that we're on team human together.

And yes, we might have differences of opinion.

And yes, we need to have more conversations about trying to find more middle ground.

But how can we even get to that point if we don't see that the person on the other side of the aisle is a human being just like me that cries and laughs at nearly all of the same moments.

You know, there's something that's very unifying in all of that.

So I encourage people to go to theaters mainly for that reason.

Go put yourself back into a world where we start seeing each other again.

And I think this movie has a lot of that.

No matter what background you have, you're going to laugh and cry at a lot of the same spots because it's just about being a human.

Zach, I have to tell you, I got in huge trouble when I got home after interviewing you because my son was in town

and he was staying for a couple of weeks.

And he said, wait, wait, wait.

Who did you interview today?

And I said, Zachary Levi.

He's like, you interviewed the guy who played Kurt Warner, one of my favorite movies, and you didn't even tell me.

So

I got into huge trouble.

Next time you're coming up,

I have to tell him in advance, if you don't mind.

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You know what that's like.

You know what that's like.

Anyway,

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He played Chuck

and all kinds of stuff.

Shazam.

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So you came to Texas and

no offense, but this scares me because all of Hollywood is starting to move to Texas and I don't want Hollywood in Texas.

It can stay in California.

But, you know, in the Super Bowl, there was this big push to get Texas

to start doing tax breaks for Hollywood and bring them here.

How do you feel about Hollywood moving to Texas?

Is Texas going to remake Hollywood or will Hollywood remake Texas?

Well, I mean, listen,

I think I might have shared a little bit of this with you last time, but I moved to Texas specifically because 25 years ago when I started working in the industry, I saw behind the curtain and I saw just how broken it all was.

And I felt very,

I don't know, very angry about it all.

I really care about human beings.

I care about our castes and crews.

I believe that I was put on this earth to be a leader of positive change.

And I didn't understand why God was leading me to such a broken industry because I would not be able to stomach that.

I'd be fighting all the time.

And I really felt like God told me in that moment 25 years ago, like, Zach, you're not wrong.

It's very broken.

But I, God, am going to make a better version of this.

And I'm going to use you to go do that.

And that required me riding on the broken boat that is Hollywood for as long as I needed to to build my relationships and reputation and resources.

And then at some point, God was going to lead me somewhere else.

And I knew very early on it was probably going to be somewhere like Austin in order to go buy a bunch of land and build essentially a new United Artist type movie studio that didn't just stop at a place to work, but also building a living community into that, building other like really cool hospitality and health and wellness.

Kind of like what they have in,

what is the name of the Chick-fil-A people made it in Georgia?

Trillith, yeah, Trillith out in Georgia.

There's some crossover DNA there, and I have a lot of love for those guys.

What I'm building is going to be definitely different, but have some similar elements for sure.

But ultimately, you know, just trying to build a campus that

makes not just our entertainment industry a better one and saves it from itself, you know, from my standpoint, but also helps to fix a lot of the problems that are just present in life, everyday life,

giving kids better education, schools that are actually education and not indoctrination, giving people health and wellness services that actually heal them and not just throw a band-aid on them or another drug that they have to take every day.

regeneratively grown organic food every day, all day, clean water, like all of these things that we all want.

We all want those things.

We all want to live in community where we know and trust our neighbors again.

And there's no better way of knowing and trusting your neighbor than to work with them every day.

You know, I think this is one of the things that we've lost that used to be very commonplace in the communities that built around this country and even this world.

They were communities that were built around a common economic driver.

You know, it's like Hershey's, Pennsylvania.

That was a guy named Hershey's who was making a bunch of chocolate and said, you know, I'm not just going to build a factory.

I'm going to build places for all of my factory workers to live and schools for the kids and clinics so they can stay healthy.

You know what I mean?

These are not

uncommon concepts.

It's just most people don't do it anymore.

And so I've wanted to make a version of that in entertainment for a really long time.

That's why I moved to Texas.

I bought my acreage out here outside of Austin.

Subsequently, many people have then also had this idea because

I think other people saw the same value in Austin or Texas in general.

If all these other states are doing filming incentives, why shouldn't we?

I understand.

Listen, I've been been lobbying down to the Capitol in Texas and also in Oklahoma because I think that's another place they have an opportunity they have a filming incentive but it could get a lot better and I've lobbied personally shook the hands and kissed the babies of you know various you know legislators and stuff and I've tried to convince them of you know the positive side of what all of this is and I understand concern I understand your concern and other concerns which is well how do you implement that without having that culture and not entirely that culture but the parts of that culture, you know, the woke side of things or whatever it is that, you know, a lot of us have concerns about.

How do you keep that at bay?

So hang on just a sec because I've got to take another network break.

And I want you to come back and answer that.

And I also want to talk to you about what you saw in Hollywood.

This stuff with

Diddy and

all of that.

I mean, how much of that is real?

And why aren't people going to jail for that?

And if you want to bring Hollywood to Texas, how do you keep that kind of stuff out?

Because it's just absolutely evil.

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It's a fascinating conversation that happens tomorrow right now.

I'm talking to Zachary Levi,

the actor and the owner of Wildwood Studios here in Texas.

He's got a new movie out called The Unbreakable Boy.

It's a true story.

And here's just a clip from it.

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Logan, this is Tyler.

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Autism presents itself in many different ways.

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Earth to Austin.

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Nope, my brain is right here in my head on Earth.

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Zachary Levi joins us now.

We were talking about moving Hollywood here to

Texas, which I'm torn on, obviously.

How do you keep that culture?

And

how much of the Diddy stuff do you think is true?

And

how deep does that culture go in Hollywood?

Well, I'll start with

the first question, which is, you know, how do we maintain, how do you keep Texas, Texas?

How do you keep Austin, Austin with the influx of lots of people from California or New York or this industry in general?

And what I would say is, first and foremost, the vast majority of the people that have moved, you know, immigrated, exodused from L.A.

and New York and places like that to Austin or Dallas, they are people that saw the brokenness in their states, and they're not.

trying to change Texas into California.

Some people obviously are bringing some of their bias and whatnot and they might a little bit, but I think for the majority of them, they came here because they see freedom and liberty in a way that California did not provide that during the pandemic, right?

So I think that there's still some really shared value in all that.

As far as the industry is concerned, and this is what I've told a lot of legislators, the reality is that 75% of the industry, I mean, a lot of the crew that I work with all the time,

specific departments, you know, particularly, are quite conservative.

Yes.

Or at the very least, very libertarian and centered.

I would say the vast majority of people in entertainment are pretty moderate and centered.

They're not crazy.

They're not like losing their mind about certain things.

They just want a good life, like most of us do.

And so I think it's a shame to not try to incentivize an industry where you could be supporting a lot of those various people.

Most of the crazy stuff comes from the top, the very top.

And those aren't the people that you would be trying to help out here.

More than that, when you have a incentive program, a lot of states have the ability to look over all of the submissions for movies that want to be incentivized in those states.

You can approve or not approve those scripts based on what you're trying to do in your state, the type of messaging that you'd like to, you know, protect in your particular area and your community.

So I don't think it should be an issue.

I think, you know, there's been this prevailing thought of, well, we don't want to subsidize, particularly in conservative states like Texas and Oklahoma, that they don't want to subsidize an industry that's putting out that type of messaging, you know, whatever that is.

And I say, A, you have more control over that than you think, but also it's not like you're stopping them.

It's not like they're not going to then go make that somewhere else that will subsidize.

What you're doing is you're leaving a lot of money on the table and a lot of jobs that you could be providing to people in your state by just coming to the table and figuring out how to play the game a little bit.

And it's a good one, by the way.

I mean, Georgia, for every dollar they spend in incentive program, they get six dollars back.

I mean, that's a heck of a return.

Right now in Texas, part of the reason why I think we're going to be successful in getting a better filming incentive

is they've already tried, they've been seeing that for every dollar they're spending, they're getting four back.

Well, that's good for your economy, that's good for the workforce, and they absolutely should keep going down that road, I think.

As far as the ditty of it all,

brother, I'm very grateful that I was never cool enough to ever be anywhere near at least being invited to any of those things, right?

Just a lot of God protecting me and also just my own hard lines of where my my morals and integrity all lay

but I could guarantee you there's probably some very you know good people with good morals and integrity that that were probably invited to some of these parties not realizing what they were getting themselves into and the next thing they know they're being oiled up with drugs right I mean this is what ultimately went down these freak offs and stuff a lot of people were unaware that they were being drugged he was drugging people with baby oil and with certain drinks that were spiked and so you know i have a lot of grace for a lot of people that might end up in a lot of these files and as a part of this stuff, because I know that there have got to be a lot of them that were unwitting in whatever that was going to be,

which is not, you know, which does not, you know,

absolve them of hopefully having better judgment of like, maybe I don't put myself in that situation, but still we have to have grace in all of that.

And I would also say

even with Diddy himself,

what I'm finding or what I believe is probably at the root of all of this, what I've heard, is that, listen, he was a young guy who was looking for success in stardom.

and there were people above him who kind of wrapped him into all of this.

And then he started becoming, you know, the face of it and the person that they would use to go, you know, the catalyst to throw these parties.

But it was all something that's above him.

And

again, it does not absolve him from anything that he has done.

I don't know all that he has done.

The files have yet to be released.

I think they should.

I think we should have transparency as the American people.

I think this is why Doge is so great right now.

I think this is why, I mean, I literally was crying tears of gratitude and joy when Tulsi Gabbard and Bobby Kennedy got confirmed, like, oh my gosh, like this is happening.

These people have the integrity that we need to actually go and not just shine the light and show the world what's going on, but also do it in grace.

Do it in love.

Like hold these people accountable, but not be vicious about it.

Not be, you know, people that need to go tear other people down.

The information will do it alone.

You know, we got to be able to handle it.

Otherwise, we're just swinging this pendulum back and forth.

It's a battle constantly.

And we need to be able to hold people accountable, but still see them as human beings.

May there be punishment for any crimes.

May there be accountability, but may we on this side, holding them accountable, not lose our humanity in the process.

I don't want to become everything we despise.

Listen to me.

Exactly.

Zach, I've only got about four minutes left here, and I want to talk to you about AI.

It is moving so rapidly, and I've been warning about this for 30 years.

We are now at the doorstep of AI, AGI, ASI.

What is your concern on AI?

So, yeah, I mean, in a nutshell, I think that AI in a vacuum,

amazing, cool, wonderful.

We can apply it to basically everything.

We can make all of our technology work better.

We can make our systems work better.

I think we ought to be embracing it.

Philosophically, I believe that you can't stop progress.

You can only hope to guide it.

So, we got to guide it.

But we have to be very aware and awake of what its potential is and not burying our head in the sand, which I think a lot of people are doing.

Because

my crystal ball tells me that in two years, we're going to start seeing massive disruption of multiple industries, particularly the entertainment industry, because anything that you record, video, audio, I mean, that's any movie, TV show, video game, music, whatever, all of that goes through a computer.

And now the computer itself can just create it from scratch.

just putting in a few prompt words with a little bit of creativity, anyone and everyone will be able to make whatever the heck they want.

And I think the studios themselves are going to start allowing it as a as a bonus to access their catalog of ip that's how they'll continue to make money on their existing ip by selling us the ability to start playing with it in our own little sandbox and what's amazing i just saw somebody who does music testing and they said we've tried you know we've tested hundreds of thousands of uh of songs and Now, you know, people have always said, well, you know, AI is not going to be able to replace the heart and everything else.

And they said, fully developed AI, the lyrics, the music, and everything.

Test in the top 10 of all songs they've ever tested.

Yep.

That's impressive.

That's what I've been screaming.

I mean, honestly, you know, you can go even further back.

You all know Harari, like him or lump him.

I think he's a fascinating human being, but I was intrigued very much by his books, Sapiens and Homo Deus, his follow-up to that.

And he talks about this stuff years and years ago.

There was a computer they were plugging classical music into.

And they asked the computer way back, and this was like maybe even close to 20 years ago, they said, make a classical, you know, composition.

And

after feeding it lots and lots and lots of concertos and whatever.

And then it gave them this composition.

And they went to some of the most

snobby classical music experts.

And

they took the names off of these two examples.

One was Bach or something, and the other one was computer generated.

And they said, tell us which one of these is computer generated.

And to a person, they all said that the AI one was the one that must have been from a person because it felt too real and genuine and human.

And they were all wrong.

And this was decades ago.

So now we're at this point.

And I think this is the hubris of man.

We all like to think, A, we're never going to get duped.

No one's ever going to get one over on us.

This is nonsense.

This has happened over and over and over again.

And somehow that our taste is going to prevent us from ever wanting to enjoy something that humans had nothing to do with.

But listen, man, even all of us artists, we're all regurgitating the things that we have seen and that we love.

Every great director will tell you that they're just borrowing from all of the greats when they're cobbling together their great work.

I've always said, steal from me, you've stolen twice.

Yeah,

exactly.

Exactly.

Right.

So this is what's going to happen.

And I think it's not only going to play on all of that stuff, but it's going to be very dazzling because you'll be able to, again, make whatever you want.

You can make a movie with Lou Skywalker and

Han Solo and the Avengers and Flynn Ryder and they can go on a journey together.

And you made it all by yourself.

Look at you.

You're a filmmaker now.

Also, you can scan your face and your voice and you get to be the star of what you made.

Who's not going to do that?

And you can bring back long dead actors to put them in the movies just because why not?

But at the end of the day, one of the biggest, I think, you know, factors in all of this of what's going to sway people toward AI is it will be a fraction of the price.

A human-made movie right now is a $20 ticket, let's say.

An AI movie will be pennies on those dollars.

And more and more people are making less and less money.

They will fall victim to, gosh, this is so dazzling and so interactive and so immersive and so fun, and it's cheap.

And I got to make it.

Well, I'm going to go do that thing.

So that's why here at Wildwood Studios, one of our mandates is that we are building a place to safeguard certified organic human-made content because I think we must.

If we do not, then I think all human art and entertainment will go the way of the dodo.

And I'm really serious about that.

I don't think people realize how close all of these things are to just slipping away if we're not more intentional about protecting them.

Yeah, the Blaze made the same commitment.

I mean, there's ways we could do things much cheaper.

And we want it to be 100%

organically grown human content.

Yeah.

And by the way, and to that point, just really quickly, you know,

AI in and of itself in a vacuum, it can be a very good thing.

And I believe that we should implement it in as many ways as we can to make things better for everyone.

But it should remain a tool in a human's toolbox to the extent that we can keep it there.

Once it starts replacing humans, we have to be very careful about what we do.

I think like right now, there's going to be a technology that's basically days away from breaking, which is essentially a universal translator.

You can have your earpods in and your phone will be able to, you can talk to anyone in the world in whatever their native language is, and it will in real time translate it for you.

That's amazing.

We should all have that.

It will displace translators as a job.

That will be sad.

Some people will still learn languages because it's a cool thing to do and it's like artisanal, awesome.

But by and large, that won't be a job that you will need to hire someone to do.

But I think the juice is worth the squeeze in that regard.

Once we start looking at much larger industries with lots and lots of jobs, like for example, we're going to have automated driving.

We already do, but soon it's going to be so ubiquitous that why do you need to hire a driver for anything?

That's a lot of jobs.

What do we do with all of those people that have been driving professionally for all these years, truck drivers and cab drivers and Uber drivers and everybody else?

That's going going to be a massive shift, and we need to be prepared for that.

I'd love to have you back in the studio and do another podcast just on the future and what you see coming our way.

You're fascinating.

Would love to.

And you're a great guy.

Thank you so much, Zachary.

Appreciate it.

Thank you, Glenn.

Really appreciate you.

Thank you for the time today, and thank you for promoting Unbreakable Boy.

You bet.

Zachary Levi, the name of the movie is The Unbreakable Boy, and it is

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