Politico's $34M Taxpayer Gift Is 'One of the Biggest Media Scandals' | Guests: Liz Wheeler & Stephen Moore | 2/6/25

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Glenn plays some of the most shocking moments from his interview with Trump’s border czar, Tom Homan. Will the drug cartels retaliate against the United States for cracking down on illegal drugs? BlazeTV host Liz Wheeler joins to discuss what she calls one of the "biggest media scandals of this decade" after it was revealed that Politico was receiving millions of dollars from the federal government. Committee to Unleash Prosperity co-founder Stephen Moore joins to break down what Trump’s foreign taxes would mean for the American consumer. The vote to push President Trump’s FBI director nominee, Kash Patel, out of committee has been delayed a week. Is it due to Patel’s promise to release the Epstein files? Blaze Media Washington correspondent and senior politics editor Christopher Bedford joins to discuss Trump’s commitment to fulfill his campaign promises. Glenn and Christopher also discuss why the Judiciary Committee is delaying the vote to push Kash Patel out of committee. Glenn goes through the various ways the government has been wasting your tax dollars to push a radical leftist agenda.
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Donald Trump, in 17 days, has done more than most presidents have done in their term.

It is breathtaking to watch the speed.

And I want to bring you up to speed on a couple of things.

One, the waste,

the government and media collusion, the fact that your tax dollars are helping support the BBC.

Are you out of your mind?

We'll talk about that.

And we have Liz Wheeler on, who

really has, I think, the story of Politico nailed down.

Politico getting millions and millions of dollars from the U.S.

government.

I don't know.

I think that, you know, when you're getting $35 million from the government, I I think that probably puts you in their pocket just a bit.

Is it just me?

We'll talk about that coming up in just a second.

But I first want to start on the border and what is happening.

I talked to Tom Holman last night, and you have got to hear what this guy said.

Coming up in just a sec.

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Well, hello, Pat Gray.

How are you?

Oh, mm, that good, huh?

So good.

Yeah, yeah.

So good.

So I'm going to go into this, hopefully, if I have time

a little later, but

Donald Trump promised 20 things that he had on his list of day one to take care of.

20 different items that he had promised during the campaign that he would do.

He has done all of them or at least put the machinery in place and started it.

Like, for instance, you know, inflation.

That's a campaign promise.

He hasn't done that, but he is moving on all of the things that he hopes will reduce inflation.

He's done more than any other president has done in 17 days.

He's done more than any other president has done in their first term.

That is remarkable.

And,

you know, I was talking to Tom Homan last night.

He is our border czar.

I love this guy.

He is just no nonsense.

And I asked him a couple of questions, and one I haven't heard anybody ask, but this is so

well thought out and well planned.

And every department seems to be working with each other.

And I wanted to know,

you know,

how far out

have they planned?

all of this listen to this tom homan cut eight guys are are just killing it right now

And

I can't thank you enough for what you guys are doing.

Was this something, Tom,

when you were appointed,

was this something that had been in the planning for a long time?

How involved is the White House in the plans?

And how, I mean, everything's happening.

It seems so coordinated with all of the different things that are happening.

How far out are you guys planned?

Well, look, as far as when it all starts,

over a year ago, President Trump, just before he announced he's going to run for president, he contacted me and wanted to know if he ran and won if I'd come back.

I told him I was so pissed off what the Biden administration did,

I'd come back for free, absolutely.

So

I think I was one of the first guys he called.

Anyways, I jumped at the chance and

I'm loving it.

And look, the way it is, we're real successful right now.

Board crossings are down almost 90%

across the southern border.

I mean, it wasn't that long long ago.

We had, what, 11,000 a day out of Joe Biden.

And yesterday we had like a 486, 486 for the entire border, and not a single one of them were released to the United States.

They immediately removed or put in detention.

Any numbers going the other direction?

Do you have any idea of how many are self-deporting?

You know, we're trying to capture that metric now.

I'm sure there's a lot of them.

There's going to be an announcement coming here in the next week or so where we're going to start, you know, if they report to us before they self-deport or stop at a port of entry, we'll give them credit for it.

So we're working on that now.

So we have no idea who's self-deporting.

CBP has a system for people who, you know, hear on a visa and they leave and they report that they left so we can track that.

But as far as the illegal answer, there's no system in place.

We're working on that now.

But there's going to be a warning coming out.

They can't get ahead of it about 10 days from now where

we're going to discuss this very issue and give illegal analysts to this country the right to self-report so they don't get a bar placed on because if you get deported to this country formally deported there's a bar placed on you from five to 20 years, depending on your case.

You can't come back under any circumstance.

Even if you have a U.S.

citizen child and wants to petition for you, if you want to come back on a visitor's visa or a student visa, you just can't.

So we're going to have a massive push in about 10 days, getting people to self-report and send them home.

Again, I think that's very fair and accomplishes everybody's goal.

If you really wanted to live here in America, okay,

deport yourself now and you're not going to get a strike against you.

You know what I mean?

You'll be able.

Otherwise, you're out for 20 years.

Right.

Even if you have a child here, you're out.

You're out.

And when you're living here illegally, that just puts a

cap on how far you can go in this country.

You're forever settled with that.

And it's just not good for you.

No.

So I think the self-deportation thing is really, really good.

I found it interesting that they started planning a year in advance.

I'd like to, next time I talk to Donald Trump, I want to ask him,

what is the earliest you started working and started thinking about how to put all of this together?

Now, I talked to him also about two other pieces that are going to stand in the administration's way,

you know, unless Trump will take action against.

And the first one is the cartels, the retaliation in the drones.

Listen to this.

The last couple of of days, we've looked at USAID.

Tonight on the show, we talked about all of the money from the NGOs that was coming from the United States, from us taxpayers.

It is really outrageous.

A lot of that money fell into the hands of the cartels.

Nobody likes to take this kind of a dip in their cash flow.

They had a good business going with the United States government, it seems.

How concerned are you on

retaliation from them and them saying they're going to use drones?

Do you believe it?

I absolutely believe it, and I'm very concerned.

I was on the southern border a couple of days ago with Pete Eggsef, new secretary, and we discussed that very issue.

And I put a stiff warning out.

Look, like you just said, the cartels are making a record amount of money lately, in the last four years, record amount of money, smuggling aliens.

Sex trafficking women and children, moving drugs across the border.

They're making record amounts of money.

That's That's why there's a cartel war going on in Mexico right now.

The cartels are fighting one another for control of the plazas,

their area control.

So look, they're not going to go away lightly.

They're not just going to walk away.

President Trump has designated terrorist organizations, so the whole world is going to come down on them.

The border is secure.

They can't move their product.

They can't smuggle the people.

They're not going to go away quietly.

There will be violence on the border.

But like I said yesterday, I think the border patrol is prepared.

We get great intel on this, that the U.S.

military is prepared.

And just a warning to cartels, I think if they harm a single border patrol agent or soldier, President Trump is going to rain hell down on them, and I think he'll wipe them off the face of the earth.

There's a reason he doesn't in terrorist organizations.

They've killed more Americans than every terrorist organization in the world combined.

President Trump is not going to mess with them.

So when you say there's going to be violence on the border, I heard you say that the other day.

What do you mean?

What should we prepare to see?

I think we'll see them shooting at Borg Collagens.

They've already started a couple days ago.

Borg Telesi was taking fire.

I think we'll see that escalate.

These groups are making record amounts of money.

They're not going to,

they've got to find a way to get their product in.

So armed encounters with the cartels, I think, are going to increase.

I hope I'm wrong, but I've done this for 35 years.

I don't think I'm wrong at all.

There's going to be more arms encounters on that border.

And I just hope and pray every uniformed Borg collagen goes home to his family every day or her family, but it's not going to be easy.

If anybody thinks the cartels are not going to respond in some fashion with some violence, they're crazy.

It's going to happen.

I talked to him then about, you know, our

you know, the

Scheinbaum, the president of Mexico, was outraged that

anybody in Mexico would have been bought and sold by the cartels, and yet to kill every politician who says they're going to stand up.

And he said, I think the good politicians are going to celebrate.

And he said, I know the people of Mexico will celebrate.

And he said, if these cartels push Trump, he said, he will.

He'll just vaporize them.

He said, they will be gone.

And I believe him on that.

Now, the other place where he really has a hard time, Trump is going to have a hard time is the politicians.

The politicians here in America between all of the NGOs that you've just cut off their

of funding.

Your tax dollars, your tax dollars, as we showed you on my TV show over and over and over again, but now it is confirmed.

No longer a conspiracy theory, gang.

Your tax dollars paid for all of this.

They were giving it to their buddies and the NGOs.

All the way from the United Nations to USAID, everybody else, they're paying these people to come in.

They set all of this up.

You know, Joe Biden says, well, I'm not inviting them in.

Really?

You not only invited them in, you provided the transportation

at our cost.

And you said, oh, no, these are just, you know, these are just aid agencies.

Yeah, that you were paying for.

It's just an outrage.

But now the politicians are starting to stand in the way.

And I don't know if you saw what Pam Bondi said yesterday, but now that she's in at the DOJ,

she's not fooling around.

So I asked Tom, what about the politicians?

There are blue states now.

There are cities and mayors and everybody else that are saying they're not going to help ICE.

Are there any purposely impeding

the orders of the president on deportations?

And if there are, what message do you want to send to them?

Look, I've been clear.

I mean, if they don't want to help, no, shame on them because we've made it clear we're prioritizing public safety threats.

I find it hard to believe any politician, whether Republican, Democrat, Independent, does not want public safety threats removed from their communities.

I think the number of responsibility of any politician is protection of his communities.

But if they don't want to help, stand aside.

We'll do it for them.

I mean,

I just landed.

I was in Aurora, Colorado today doing an operation.

Aurora, Colorado, the politicians said they had no problem with TDA.

Well, we went there today to answer the call.

President Trump made a promise.

We kept that promise.

We're arresting TDA today.

But they crossed that line.

I don't think anybody has crossed that line yet.

Governor Philip Murphy made some comment the other day.

He was harboring an illegal animal.

We've already started working on that, but all of a sudden now he's saying

it wasn't true.

But if there's a politician that knowingly...

and actively impedes the federal law enforcement officers, it's a felony.

If they knowingly harbor and conceal an illegal animal from ice officials, it's a felony.

And look, we got Pam Bonnie in there now.

Pam Bonnie, almost the first thing she did is hold off federal funding for these sanctuary cities.

You have no problem if I recommend prosecution of a politician for impeding or knowingly harboring concealing illegal alien.

When you say impeding the work of ICE, does that mean

they have to physically impede or just some of their policies?

That's what the Department of Justice is reviewing right now.

For me, it's like, you know, the Mayor of Denver saying he's going to put roadblocks up have, you know, police officers blocks of entrance city.

That's clearly impeding.

D.O.J.,

Deputy A.G., Bobey, and

they're looking at that right now.

They're making a clear distinction.

So one of these sanctuary jurisdictions, here's the line you don't cross.

So I'll let the attorneys work that out, but you should see guidance coming on that real soon.

And they're serious about it.

They're serious about it.

We're already looking at Sanctuary City and see if they cross that line.

So I'm not an attorney.

I'm not prosecuted, but I'm willing to put handcuffs on somebody once the U.S.

attorney decides they're going to prosecute somebody.

Wow.

Now,

what's so amazing, I think, about what Donald Trump is doing is

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He's not just saying, hey, Border Patrol, you need to do this.

He's got Border Patrol, FBI, Homeland Security.

He has the Department of Justice.

He also has, believe it or not, the FCC.

He has now the Doge working against things.

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10 seconds station ID.

I'm just

talking to Pat.

KCBS, that's a Bay Area.

Elliott, right?

So KCBS is part of the Cumulus network.

Who owns the Cumulus network now?

George Soros.

George Soros had that pushed through, and Brendan Carr is now looking at that and saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

all these strings were pulled.

That's not the way we do business.

We're looking at it again.

Well, he may not have to go through all of that because of what KCBS has just done, and he has found several stations doing these kinds of things.

KCBS,

at the end of last month, was on the air doing news, and the reporter said that ICE is rounding people up and then took from

a left-wing activist group

the location

and even identified the cars that they were using in undercover operations.

That

is a felony.

And Brendan Carr is now looking at KCBS losing their license.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's big.

Yeah, that is huge.

Can you remember that?

I can't remember the last time that's happened over

something like this, certainly.

No, the last time I heard that.

Radio stations just don't lose their license very often.

The last time I I heard threats of it was probably in the Howard Stern era.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Nobody's threatened with losing their license because everybody does the right thing.

And what he's saying is,

you're supposed to serve the community.

Wow.

And the law is, we're doing this.

You can't stand against the law and then put...

officers in danger by giving them giving their location and what kind of cars they're driving in in stakeouts.

And you can't do that.

Irresponsible.

How irresponsible is that?

How arrogant is that newsroom?

Jeez.

Yeah.

So he's also working on something else.

Looks like he's found a way

to stop NPR as well.

NPR is now doing commercials.

And they're not supposed to do commercials.

And the entire network is selling these, you know, they call them sponsor messages, I think is what they're saying.

But

it's breaking all of the rules.

I'll get into that here in just a second, but he might be able to dismantle

NPR.

And meanwhile,

you have Doge in with Politico, The Washington Post.

Was this state-run media $34 million?

That's the real number, apparently.

Wow.

To Politico?

Liz Wheeler broke this story yesterday, and we're going to talk to her next.

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Liz Wheeler is here.

She is the host of Blaze TV's The Liz Wheeler Show.

She broke the news early yesterday that the federal government has been subsidizing Politico, not to the tune of $6 million, but $34.3 million.

She has the receipts.

Liz, welcome to the program.

Hi, Glenn.

Thanks for having me.

You bet.

So the media...

is now saying this is a right-wing conspiracy.

There's nothing to see here.

But if the Trump administration,

if those people were all subscribers to the Blaze and we were getting $6 million or $35 million from the Trump administration, even if it was all legitimate, they would go apoplectic.

So tell me why this.

What?

This is this is what, as they should go apoplectic if that were happening.

This is one of the biggest media scandals of this decade.

And it's also a litmus test.

Anybody in the swamp, anybody, elected politician, anybody in the media who's defending Politico, getting this amount of money from the federal government, they're part of the problem.

They're the baddies, not the goodies here.

So what's happening is yesterday we woke up to news that Politico had received $8 million from USAID.

USAID, of course, is a so-called autonomous agency of the federal government that Elon Musk has been doging.

He's been exposing corruption within that agency.

Yeah, it's a CIA front.

It's a CIA front.

It is in charge of all of the color revolutions all around the world and the color revolution that they've been trying to pull here in America.

Anyway, go ahead.

That's exactly right.

I was going to say it's the nexus of the censorship industrial complex.

They've taken their political warfare abroad and aimed it back at us.

So no better target for Elon Musk than U.S.

aid.

This is a scandal in and of itself that Politico was receiving $8 million from them in 2024.

But what my team and I did is we went onto this website where any American citizen can find out how their taxpayer money is spent.

It's called usaspending.gov.

And you plug in the name of any recipient, organization, group.

We type Politico into the keyword.

And then instead of just looking at year 2024, we said all fiscal years.

Let's see how much Politico has received in the last 10 years.

And what we found before our very eyes, they began to populate millions upon millions of dollars, totaling $34.3 million.

And Glenn, this is not just from USAID.

This is from a veritable laundry list of the most corrupt federal government swampy agencies like the Department of Education, the Department of Health and Human Services, sub-agencies like the FDA and the CDC and the EPA.

And if you look at when these subsidies started, they started just about the moment that Trump descended on that golden elevator in 2015.

That's when the gravy train for Politico started.

And then you can see it year by year in 2020 and 2021, when Joe Biden took office, all of a sudden, these subsidies to Politico increased exponentially.

Exponentially.

And of course, you'll have these defenders saying, well, these are just subscriptions that federal government employees paid for

Politico Pro.

It's like a $10,000 a year subscription.

They claim it's a premium service.

Aimed right for the Beltway.

Aimed right directly at the Beltway.

So go ahead.

100% well first of all that's clinically insane to pay ten thousand dollars for a subscription service that's not a subsidy that is patronage if you are paying ten thousand dollars but this is this is what money laundering is right it's nebulous it's vague it's money it's fungible so if the bulk of your

if the bulk of your revenue or a huge percentage of your revenue is coming from so-called federal government employees that are paying this exorbitant fee, what are you going to expect in response?

You're going to expect in response coverage exactly like Politico has given us, where they told us the Hunter Biden laptop story isn't real, that it was Russian disinformation.

Like they were the leader on that.

They were the leader on that.

Yep.

Yes, of course, which makes sense when you think about where they're getting all this $34.3 million from.

They were defenders of the COVID-19 jab, the Moderna jab, even for young men, which we now know it's very dangerous.

They're the ones, Glenn, that led.

They broke the story when the Supreme Court leaker leaked that the Supreme Court was going to overturn Roe v.

Wade in the Dobbs case.

They were the ones that published that.

So they are an arm, they're a propaganda arm of the federal government.

This, as you said, is the biggest scandal in media.

So you know, Liz, just a point of information that most people don't know.

During the Obama administration, it may still be true, I don't know, you couldn't not only get to Blaze TV to log on on a government computer, you couldn't go to theblaze.com.

It was banned as a website for the government.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

So

yeah, so anybody who is like, well, you know, they were just.

Well, there are a lot of people that wanted to, you know, subscribe and subscribe personally.

not through their office and just be able to listen or watch or just get their news from the news site, theblaze.com.

And they were blocked.

Every government employee was blocked.

I did not know that.

I mean,

it proves exactly what we've been saying.

First of all, there is no justification on the face of this earth for $34.3 million to be given from the federal government agencies to a supposedly objective media organization.

There's just, there's no explanation for it.

We all know that.

The swamp creatures that are defending it or just exposing their true colors here.

We're not always lucky enough to have an email that says this $10,000 is for the big guy or this 10% is for the big guy.

But we know.

We're smart people.

We use common sense.

We know how human nature works.

We know that if the federal government is giving this exorbitant amount of money to a media organization, what they're going to get in return is coverage and cover-ups and propaganda and emotional manipulation and exactly what we've seen from Politico for the past for the past decade, you know, coincidentally since this gravy train began.

And one comment on, you know, the Blaze TV,

I double-checked this morning to see how much our subscriptions are because I was like, okay, I pay for a couple of subscriptions to

even mainstream media outlets, although I really try not to because I don't like to give them my money, but I need to for research purposes sometimes.

Me too.

Normal people pay $100 a year.

That's what, if you go to Blazetv.com/slash Liz, it's $120 for an annual subscription and you can get $20 off.

That's what normal people pay.

And even then, they probably share the login, which also normal people do.

Well, we don't encourage that, but

yes, you're right.

I mean, you know,

my initial

payment to open the doors, I had a few partners, and they, I can't remember what they gave, but it was probably around 10 million together.

And I had put in 20 million myself.

We started this entire operation with $30 million.

$30 million is what kicked off the blaze when the technology didn't even exist, that we had to invent all of this stuff to do it.

To have $34 million coming in from the federal government, they are your master.

They are absolutely your master.

Could you talk about one thing, Liz?

The press is hanging their hat on the fact that some media outlets said

that was the cause of them not making payroll was Doge.

That didn't have anything to do with it, did it?

Well, it depends on if you are a swamp creature and you view the world through your own twisted reality or if you're a normal person that can look at things that probably aren't coincidences.

We were told that, according to this initial report, that Politico had never missed a paycheck before.

So I would just pose questions

to all of to all of us normies do you think that's a coincidence that the day that their gravy train is cut off that they're not able to make payroll it doesn't seem funny to me it's funny because

one of my producers knows one of the people at Politico and on the phone all day yesterday arguing back and forth and this person said we have payroll glitches here all the time and I thought I've never had a payroll glitch.

I'd get another payroll service if it was glitchy all the time.

So I mean, they either have the worst payroll service, which there's lots of them out there you can get that actually work,

or there was something else going on.

But that's not the story.

The story.

No, that's what they're using to distract from the $34.3 million.

Even the subscriptions are a distraction because they don't want us to think $34.3 million given from basically the Biden regime to Politico.

It is one of the most significant scandals the mainstream media has ever been exposed without an excuse, being in the middle of that I can remember.

So we also found out yesterday that our federal government gave millions of dollars to the BBC.

The BB frickin' C.

That's supposed to be the Queen's money, not our money.

What the hell are we doing funding the BBC?

I mean, the

go ahead.

Listen, this is what's so critical to understand.

The reason that people like, I don't know if you've been watching Brian Stelter's X seed, it's quite funny because he's freaking out about this.

The same with Jen Saki on MSNBC.

She was like, there's a hostile takeover of the federal government happening because you and I are identifying ways that taxpayer money has been corruptly abused.

That's a hostile takeover in her mind.

But the reason they're freaking out about this isn't just because their pet projects won't be funded anymore or they won't have a log in to their gossip reg Politico magazine or whatever it is.

The reason they're freaking out is because their mechanism of controlling us hinges on the mainstream media outlets, these corporate media outlets, running propaganda for them.

They'll never be able to lie to us and emotionally manipulate us if the media isn't taking a front, isn't taking a leading role in that.

And now they can't.

On top of that, they also have lost their gravy train through the NGOs.

They found a way to get all of their radical friends to open up an NGO and then funnel millions of dollars into it so they can do everything that they want with taxpayer dollars.

If you look at just USAID's 2023 fact sheet,

the agency supported 6,200 journalists, 707 news outlets, 279 media sector civil society organizations,

and this comes from the Columbia Journalism Review.

Now, I don't know, if you've got 6,000 journalists on your payroll, you could probably influence.

a few people.

This has got to stop and I don't know what it's going to take for your neighbors to stop listening to the mainstream media.

That's why it's important not to say, in my opinion, that this is why they didn't make payroll.

Because we can't prove that.

We don't know.

I mean, great coincidence, but we don't know.

It's important to say,

but this is provably true.

It's the thing with Ben Stiller and, you know, Angelina Jolie going over to Ukraine, getting $20 million.

That didn't happen.

That's not true.

You need to know what the truth is because the truth itself is so unbelievably powerful that you need to know what that is.

And that's what we try to give you here every day.

Liz, thank you for this expose.

It's great.

Thanks, Glenn.

Appreciate it.

You bet.

Liz Wheeler from the Liz Wheeler Show on Blaze TV.

She's the one that broke the, everybody else is talking about $8 million.

She's the one that broke yesterday.

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So political, Politico swept up with USAID and the rest of the government.

You just heard that.

Elon Musk is going to eliminate the waste on some of these things, especially with Politico.

Donald Trump has frozen the millions in USAID funds for foreign media.

It is crazy what we were doing.

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You know, in days not too long ago, if I said, you know what, this hour we're going to talk a little bit about tariffs, I think my producers would have killed me because there is nothing more snorfast than tariffs, except right now,

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If I remember right, You've been with me against tariffs for a long time.

Have you changed on this?

Because I think I'm changing, Stephen.

Hey, Glenn, so good to be with you.

And by the way,

I'm also an informal advisor to Trump on the economy.

Oh, good.

And by the way, he knows that I'm not a huge fan of tariffs, but I mean, you set this up very well.

You know, a tariff is basically a consumption tax.

You know, if we had something you and I have talked about over the years, Glenn, is a national retail sales tax to replace the income tax.

Well, if you did that, you would essentially be taxing everything when it came in to the country because it's going to be consumed here.

And so what Trump is basically talking about, which I think is a really interesting idea, is not necessarily getting rid of the income tax, but lowering all the tax rates to 15%.

Right now, we're at like 30%

or more, and then imposing.

What world do you live in?

I'd celebrate for 30% income tax.

Yeah, right.

I mean, if you're really rich, you know, you can be up to about 40%.

So I kind of like that idea.

I mean, so I broached with Trump the other day this idea of 15, 15, 15.

So how about if we have a 15% corporate rate, a 15% individual income tax rate, a 15%

universal tariff, a 15% cap gains, dividend?

Can you imagine that?

It would unleash

capital.

It would unleash

prosperity like nobody's business.

Like nobody's business.

No country could compete with us here.

Let me give you an example, you know, Glenn, that I think everybody can relate to because you have listeners around the country.

You know what two or three states in the United States have the biggest in migration right now?

Yeah, Florida and Texas.

And Tennessee.

Now,

for a bonus question, I know you're supposed to be asking questions.

Do you know what those three states have in common?

No income tax.

No income tax.

Yeah.

You know, so people do people and businesses and capital and jobs migrate to the places with low tax rates.

So if we had the lowest tax rates in the world on top of

the greatest workers in the world, the greatest mines in the world, the freest country in the world, I mean, we would just blow away the rest of the world.

And Trump is very, I don't know, you know, it's going to be tough to get that done, but that's where he wants to end up.

I tell you, that is the problem we've always had with tariffs, for me at least, is it's just a tax and you're already taxing us.

Right.

And, you know, it's like, well, then buy American and you don't have to pay for that tariff.

Okay, but I'm already being taxed at a pretty high rate.

Please, I don't want to pay more for things that maybe I want or maybe that are cheaper because they were coming from China.

Yeah, so let me explain, again, this is a good conversation for people to have because, you know, Trump has said different things at different times.

But in my conversation with last week, it was basically saying, he puts it very simply.

He said this in some of his speeches too.

What he wants to do is charge a know 15 tax on things that are made in china or you know europe or japan but if it's made in michigan or oio or pennsylvania or california or maine he wants to have the rate 15 i'm like well i can live with that mr president i think that's a pretty pretty cool idea i mean i'm america first guy if if i'd rather have people buy things that are made in america all things equal wait wait wait wait wait wait

you just said if it's from china you're paying 15 tariff but if it's made in america you said you pay an extra 15%.

No, not an actual tax.

That's zero.

I'm sorry.

We're cutting.

No, what I'm saying is you're going to pay a 15% income tax if it's made in the United States.

In other words, the profits you make on selling something, let's say you make widgets and you make a profit on making those widgets in Pennsylvania or wherever it is, you're only going to pay a 15% income tax.

To buy that product, if it's made in America,

you don't pay any tax.

No, no, no, no.

No.

In other words, so what you're trying to do is skew the table a little bit more in favor of buying things made in the U.S.

versus other countries.

And by the way, that's what all the other countries do to us.

I know.

I know.

I have to tell you, I think the way the president is handling

really everything.

I've never seen anything like this, Stephen.

Have you?

Me neither.

No, I've been in the game about as long as you have.

I mean, I arrived in Washington in the Reagan years, so I still think Reagan was one of our greatest presidents.

But Trump, I think Trump, it's interesting because whenever we we have meetings like Laugher and I with Trump, he's always asking about Reagan.

He's very kind of envious.

He wants to go down in history as being one of the great presidents like Reagan.

And that's a good role model to have.

And so, you know, I think, I think you're going to see.

And he also understands, Glenn, he's only got really about two years to get it done.

You know, and then we'll be, because remember, he's a lame duck.

He can't run for reelection again.

So he understands that.

That's why he raced out of the gate like secretary at the minute he took the oath of office.

And I think, you know, I told, I think I said on your show a month ago or so, you know, buckle up because this is going to be a hell of a ride.

And it's only been three weeks.

I know.

It's amazing.

17 days.

And I think he's accomplished more than most presidents have done in their entire term.

Definitely.

Definitely.

And I don't think it's going to stop anytime soon.

He told me I don't, because I said, you've got only two years to do this.

He said, Glenn, two years?

I've got a hundred days.

If I don't have all this done in 100 days, it's not going to get done.

There's a lot of truth to that.

Yeah.

There's a lot of truth to that.

And that's why we have to get this tax cut done.

That's one of my highest priorities is making sure that we make the tax cut that we passed in 2017 permanent.

And I want to make sure your listeners understand something.

I think most of your listeners know this, but a lot of people are not aware of it.

If Congress does nothing,

everyone's taxes are going to go up next year.

Correct.

Everyone's.

And we don't want Donald Trump raising tax on people.

And so we've got to get this tax cut done.

I like his idea of no tax on tips.

I like the idea of no tax on overtime.

We'll add some other things on it.

But these are all oriented towards making the American economy great again.

So it's going to work.

Why aren't we going for 15, 15, 15

over doing,

you know, making this permanent?

Why not just in one move try to go for the

whole anchor off?

My friend, that may happen.

You know, we'll see how it turns out.

At the very minimum, we have to make those tax cuts permanent, but we may go further than that.

We may go with 15, 15, 15,

and that would be a remarkable accomplishment.

And then, you know, we're going to produce American energy.

He's already slashed the regulation costs.

So it's going to make America incredibly competitive.

And the jobs are going to flow here, not to China and Japan and all the other countries.

We not only have to grow our bottom line, grow our way out of this, which we can, but we also must cut.

You know, if

it'll take, I think, 65 years at this point,

the speed of Doge, and they're cutting like crazy,

to actually balance the budget.

Are we going to be able to cut enough?

Is there an appetite for that?

Well, you know, I've been in the game, as I said, I've been in this town for 40 years, and, you know, Republicans talk a good game, but when it comes right down to it, they like to spend money just as much as Democrats do.

But look, I think, how about what Trump is talking about about getting rid of all these crazy foreign aid programs?

I mean, the left is hyper-ventilating about this,

but those programs never work.

They don't lead to any development.

They just create a huge international bureaucracy of people who hate America.

So, I mean, this guy has a spine of steel.

He really does.

He really does.

Stephen, thank you so much.

God bless you.

Okay,

keep us informed, please.

Check in, Moore Office.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I will.

I will.

Thank you very much.

Stephen Moore, Committee to Unleash Prosperity.

I have to tell you,

I think if he did 15, 15, 15,

it would explode.

Which is 15% flat income tax.

Yes.

15% corporate.

Corporate.

And 15% tariff.

Tariff.

Wow.

So you don't make it in America.

You know how many people, you know, what's the company that bought Ford and Jaguar and everything?

Stellantis?

I can't remember the name of that company.

But they're now talking about coming back to America because of the tariffs.

They're going to make the Jeep back in Detroit.

They've already moved 1,500 jobs back to a factory here in America.

They're going to now move them also back to Detroit to make the Jeep back in America.

That's what happens.

If you have a tariff and you have 15%

tax, this is why, you know, it's fascinating.

This is why when we were headed towards that global government, this is why the president and all the leaders of the West tried to get an agreement that there would be a minimum corporate tax.

Do you remember that?

And we were all part of that.

A minimum corporate tax.

No.

No.

We're not going to play, we're not going to hobble everybody.

If we can work it to our advantage so we grow,

why would we hobble ourselves?

Yeah.

And And 15, 15, 15 would blow the world away.

Blow it away.

Make us far more competitive than

any other industry.

The jobs that would be created here,

you would get more money into the coffers of the United States government because the prosperity would be so high.

Yeah.

It'd be amazing.

And to replace the progressive income tax with just a 15% flat tax,

that would make such a huge difference.

Are you kidding me?

In American statements.

Think of just this.

If we had a flat tax, think of how many dollars are wasted on

IRS audits.

How much time is wasted at places like H ⁇ R Block, your accountant, how much time you spend putting your taxes, getting the receipts, figuring it all out.

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Forget about the money that's being lost in preparing it.

Just the man hours.

If you had those man hours back,

what could we be doing with that money and those man hours?

Just that is game-changing in growing the economy because you have more money to keep and more time to do what you want to do.

I'm telling you, if he does, if he can do 15, 15, 15, if he could pull that off, it's a new world.

And Stephen Moore said it's a possibility.

Yeah.

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So the Senate committee has delayed the vote on Cash Patel's nomination.

That's not good.

Yeah, that's not good.

The Democrats are just freaking out.

They're freaking out about everything.

And they should.

They should.

They set this system up.

I mean, every American should be with pitchforks in the streets saying, who is responsible for

all of this money that went to NGOs and billions of dollars that were

my tax dollars going to

feed the homeless, fly the home, or not homeless,

immigrants, to enlist them, to set up people all along the way with maps and everything else.

And they acted like, well, it's just people are they're refugees.

They're escaping their, I don't know, their problems in their own countries.

No, you went and got them.

The

unbelievable, unmitigated gall of these people to stand up and say, these are important programs.

You enriched all of your leftist buddies.

That's all you did.

Yeah.

I mean, when you find out that,

like you mentioned earlier, the BBC has been receiving taxpayer dollars.

Why?

The British Broadcasting Company?

Why is that our responsibility?

None of these things are.

And

so when that gravy train comes to a halt, yeah, people are going to be upset about it.

Tough.

I tell you, they're going after George Soros now.

Do we have that picture of

Junior George?

You know,

the left is concerned about some amazing billionaire, Elon Musk,

how horrible it it is that he, unelected,

has so much power.

Look at, there he is, George Jr.

with Joe Biden.

Next picture.

Here he is with

the bicycle guy, Mayor Pete.

So there he is with Mayor Pete.

That's Corey Booker hanging out with him.

And by the way, when you're going to meet with him, oh, look at that.

That's Adam Schiff.

When you're going to meet with him, you're not going just to say hi.

Hey, I love your glasses.

I was wondering where you got them.

You're going for money.

There's Warnock.

And this guy wields so much power.

At least our guy is out in the open.

Right.

You know, our guy is like, yeah, this is what I'm going to do.

Our guy campaigned on saying, by the way, this guy's going to be my point man to cut all of these things.

We voted on that.

Did you ever vote on on George Soros or his son?

Did you ever vote on that?

Nope.

No, they hide that from you.

They deny that.

They thought, that's, you know, how dare you?

How dare you?

You're just anti-Semitic.

That has nothing to do with his heritage.

Nothing to do with it.

I don't like billionaires who are trying to shape the world in a way that I disagree with, having access to our government, having access to our tax dollars, and none of us are even told what they're doing.

You know, it was USAID and George Soros that overthrew the government of Ukraine.

We overthrew that.

When they were having that big thing

in Ukraine with,

what was it, the...

2014, I think, when

we were saying, oh, Russia, Russia's got this new guy in there.

We got to get him out.

And the people are just rising up.

It was USAID and George Soros and Hillary Clinton that were in charge of all of that.

It was Victoria Newland that

did all of that.

They used Facebook.

Our State Department sent people over telling them how to organize a revolution.

Are you kidding me?

Did you know your tax dollars were going?

I mean, I know you did if you listen or watch any of my shows, because we outline this over and over and over again but that's what Chuck Schumer and others are actually standing up for they're actually in the street saying these things are important to overthrow other governments no I don't think so I mean maybe that was cool back in the old timey days of the 1960s before we see what it does to the world and does to our reputation.

I'm done with all of that.

It doesn't work.

But

they found a way to make money on it.

They found a way to not only overthrow, to gain power for their friends, but also to enrich their friends and stay in power because, hey, if I'm giving you, Pat, I'm giving you and your cookie company $10 million and I'm running for office, do you think you're going to write a check for maybe a couple hundred grand for me?

It's possible.

Yeah, it's possible.

It's possible that's how this is all working and it's all taxpayer money if i were in the government and i got the money and i funneled it to pat he's going to funnel some of that money back to me this is money laundering that's the agreement it is the it's the agreement up front spoken agreement it is it is

so bad i noticed you only so showed soros with uh democrats where let's show all the all the photos of soros with republican senators now

Okay, there they are.

There's none of them.

Wow,

I got to count again.

That was zero?

Are you sure that's zero?

Zero.

Yeah, none.

So unbelievable.

So unbelievable.

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Pat Gray is filling in for Stu Regeer again today, who is off to the Super Bowl to sit in one of those luxury boxes, I guess.

Way overpaid.

Anyway, I think he's going to be right next to Taylor Swift.

Yeah.

Yeah, making out.

Making out.

Poor Lisa.

I know.

I know.

It's just wrong.

It's just wrong.

It is wrong.

But anyway,

and the way he has just abandoned his Eagles because of Taylor Swift is

a lot, right?

It does.

It is a lot.

I'm not sure which is worse, abandoning the Eagles or Lisa.

They're both pretty Lisa, but they are pretty bad.

You know what I mean?

Long time.

I mean, he's been loyal to the Eagles longer than loyal to Lisa.

Yes, he has.

So anyway.

And the Eagles aren't buying purses.

True.

Yeah.

Well, that's what Stu said.

That's what Stu said.

And

I would respond in his defense, but I don't see a defense.

But anyway,

let's move on from this personal information about Stu.

You guys do this to me too, don't you?

What I've got.

Every time.

All right.

So the Republicans

have decided that

because I guess Dick Durbin, I don't know how this has happened because don't we have the majority on the committee?

I thought we did, yeah.

So the committee was supposed to have a vote to get Cash Patel out of

committee today.

Now they're saying it's going to happen next Thursday because Dick Durbin wants a second stab,

probably literally, at Cash Patel.

That is absolutely insane.

Insane.

It is.

The reason why I think this is happening is because,

yeah, Pam Bondi, she's not screwing around.

around.

You need to have the FBI.

They've lost all of their radical funding from

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They're going to lose all of the...

Can you imagine how much corruption is in Medicare, Medicaid?

Can you imagine?

That's the next thing Doge is taking on.

Imagine

the waste and the corruption in that.

So

you just can't have the FBI

as part of this.

You can't have a pit bull in there.

I think that's their thinking.

One caveat.

I think the most important thing they don't want to happen is Cash Patel getting in and releasing

Jeff Steinstein files.

Yep.

Yeah.

I think that's a big part of it.

Who on that committee is part of that?

Yeah.

Would it surprise you if somebody on that

wouldn't surprise me if it was both Republicans and Democrats?

No, I'm, yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I have no idea.

I have absolutely no idea.

But here's what I want.

I just want to know.

Yeah.

I just want the truth.

And I don't care if, honestly, if it were all Republicans, I mean, I doubt that.

But if it was all Republicans, okay, let the chips fall where they may.

I want to know.

You know, honestly, this is kind of the P.

Diddy thing.

Why isn't that,

why isn't that case just busted wide wide open?

Right.

Why?

You know, the Pizzagate people, while

they weren't right about Pizzagate, there was something in our psyche that was telling us our children are being abused by powerful people.

Because look what's happening.

The power people, you know, in Hollywood and the power people in Washington seem to be doing this.

The power people of

the drug cartels is bringing it, bringing them in.

We've lost 300,000 children in the system, just gone.

What do you think is happening to those kids right now?

So there's something in us that said

this is a real problem.

And until we lance that boil,

until we know all of the details and we let the chips fall where they may, we're never going to fix the country.

And it's been six years.

Epstein died in 2019.

It's been going on six years now, and we still don't know.

How is that possible?

Because there's too many important people up there.

I mean,

you're going to see Bill Gates go down.

Almost certainly.

You're going to see.

The way he's acting, I mean, I'd be really surprised if he's not deeply involved.

Oh, my gosh.

I mean, what he's been saying the last couple of weeks.

Ah, wow.

Oh, you know, it was a big mistake around Epstein.

Yeah, I was having an affair.

I wasn't doing anything with the kids.

No, no.

Yeah, but I was having an affair, and my wife was right.

That was the biggest mistake of

my life, not listening to my wife and getting a divorce.

Was it, Bill?

Was it?

Yeah, I think we're going to find out some other bigger mistakes than that.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah.

And I can't wait.

You know, his first mistake, and a pretty big one, too, was to steal all the tech that he did from IBM and Xerox.

He still hasn't paid for that.

But that's going to be fascinating when that list comes out.

And it's inevitable now, and they know it.

I mean,

Cash was on my show.

When was that, Sarah, last summer, maybe?

Maybe last spring?

He was sitting in my office.

And, you know, I'm going through, okay, so how does all this work?

And, you know,

where is the corruption?

He laid the whole corruption out on a chalkboard for me.

And we made it into an episode.

And he's sitting on my couch and he's like, no, you got got to add that name and that name.

And here's what you have to go after.

And we got, and I said, so who has the Epstein stuff?

And he's like, I know right where it is.

It's in the hands of the director of the FBI.

Wow.

Now, my question is,

do we still know it's there?

Yeah, that's a good question.

And I think we do because

that would be a Trump person that is in there.

Even if cash is not there, somebody is in charge of that vault.

I would have, you know, I would go into our nuclear silos and I'd get the two guys with the keys, you know, that can point a gun to each other and say, I want you to guard this safe because that's in there.

And if he starts to go bad, shoot him in the head.

He goes bad, you shoot him in the head.

You know,

I would want some some fail safe on that because that is you imagine how valuable that is in the wrong hands

huge

yeah to blackmail that's what that's why all this stuff has to be exposed even if nobody goes to jail it has to be exposed because otherwise you're blackmailing you know all these people are compromised you don't know who they are you don't know who might be compromising them

You know,

that's not good.

Yeah.

And, you know, Bill Gates, not even probably the most powerful.

I mean, you've got Bill Clinton potentially, I would think.

Oh, yeah.

Who is with him multiple times?

Oh, yeah.

Like 20 trips overseas

on the Lolita Express.

I mean, really, really not good.

So there are some names that are on there that are pretty powerful.

So you also have the FBI director in charge of all of the documents on the Biden family.

all of that is in that same safe

i mean

and

cash patel is going to drop all of it

i mean on day one i i i believe you will see on day one it will be breathtaking on what i mean i said to my uh said to my uh staff we have to be ready because i don't know how they're going to drop it i don't but We have to have a team that is on that thing.

Whenever he is confirmed, on his first weekday,

he's going to do something amazing and probably drop something big like the Christopher Ray stuff or most likely the Epstein stuff.

And he'll drop that, and

that's going to be earth-shattering for a week.

That will be

easily, will be poured over, and then just the names.

You'll just be talking about names.

I can't believe that we are sitting at a time where I have been, I mean, Pat, you and I have talked about this forever.

By 2025, we may not be a country anymore.

We've talked about that for 30, 40 years.

You know, if this keeps going at this pace and continues to speed up like it was, we're done as a nation.

I can't believe we're sitting here and I'm as optimistic as I am that we're gonna make it.

Yeah.

We're gonna make it.

Yeah.

And it is the movement, the rapid movement of Donald Trump that's making it possible that we might survive this.

Yeah.

Because it's it is it is the all the activity that he has done in the first 17 days that will save this country.

Yeah.

He's got to codify it.

He's got to codify this stuff.

Otherwise.

Otherwise somebody through legislation.

Yeah.

otherwise somebody's gonna come in change it all and change it all i mean if we don't win again in in in 2028 if republicans don't win they'll just change it all again whatever democrat is elected next

will reverse everything he's ever done

and that's that's the problem with executive orders so one of the things that donald trump did i have to tell you i don't understand i've read this story three or four times today i just don't understand it um but uh people who do know are saying, oh, no, no, no.

This is the mother of all bombs.

What he just did.

The Office of Personnel Management sent a memo out on Tuesday to the heads and acting heads of all federal departments and agencies recommending that every agency revoke the career-reserved status for their chief information officers.

So the CIOs of every agency.

By doing so and by also opening the roles to general employees, the establishmentarians presently occupying the increasingly politicized roles can be easily canned and replaced by individuals willing to carry out the president's agenda.

Now, we know that kind of stuff was happening.

They were going to try to start changing

the status.

of some roles, but they're going after the chief information officers, which I think one of the reasons why they're doing it is because

you have

tech

and Elon Musk is under

tech.

Barack Obama put this office into the White House that if we can improve our government efficiency

through the use of digital technology, it should be done.

And so

that's where he's working.

And so when people say he doesn't have the right to do anything, yeah, he does.

Yeah, he does.

But the chief information officer is the tech officer.

And so I don't know exactly why

this is such a big deal.

We're going to explain it.

I've got somebody who actually knows.

They're going to explain it to me and to you here in just a second.

The other thing that has happened in the last 24 hours is

they're fighting back now on

the Medicare, Medicaid, all of the information that everybody has

on health.

And

the reason why now the unions are pushing back on saying that Elon Musk can't have any access to social security numbers.

He can't have access to any names, anything.

Not their health records.

They don't want him to have the Social Security number.

Why?

I think it's because they're going to find out exactly how much these people with social security numbers are reporting to the IRS.

If you aren't going to work and you're being paid full-time, are you making more than you were

when you were working here in the building?

That's fraud.

You're working working for us full-time.

I think

these guys are so brilliant.

I mean,

I've been saying this for a while.

The left has been so genius at what they're doing,

it's admirable.

I mean,

you have to admire it, okay?

It's evil, but

you have to look back and go, that was

expertly done and brilliant.

We've caught up to them.

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And I think what's playing out is absolutely brilliant.

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The White House is just making unprecedented moves.

I've never seen anything quite like it.

What Elon Musk is doing, you know, is freaking the Democrats out, which I'm happy for.

But what did you expect him to do?

He's doing exactly what the president said he was going to do on the campaign trail for the last like four months.

He's doing it.

You know, some people make promises and actually keep them.

We're going to talk about one of the crucial moves that they made, I think, on Tuesday,

to make the president actually in control of the executive branch.

I don't understand it, but I know somebody who does understand it.

Chris Brett-Bedford, he is our Washington, D.C.

correspondent at the Blaze.

He's all up on this, and I also want to talk to him a little bit about what are the Republicans doing?

Why have they delayed Cash Patel's

vote in committee?

That was supposed to come out, I think, today,

and then they could vote in the Senate.

But now it looks like they're going to keep it in committee until next Thursday.

Why?

What is going on?

These people, I'm telling you, the GOP, you are so stupid.

If you can't hear the will of the people at this point and how much we are loving everything that Donald Trump is doing, you're out of your mind.

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Chris, have you seen anything like what has been happening the last 17 days?

Never, never, and I never expected to.

And no one I know here in Washington ever expected to.

There's a lot of people who've been here a long time.

And, you know, I was listening in your introduction.

You're talking about, well, Donald Trump said he was going to do this, but I've been in DC now for over 20 years, and a lot of people say they're going to do a lot of things.

And it never happens.

I got to a point where I rolled my eyes and Republicans talked about the Department of Education for tackling USAID, where I could go around and talk to rooms of congressmen and senators and say, why are you funding the universities?

Why are you funding the left-wing activist groups?

Why don't you stop that?

And they just looked at me blankly.

Well, it seems too hard.

It seems too difficult.

This is a revolution going on, a soft, peaceful revolution in the way the federal government works, and it will have lasting impact.

Yeah, I hope so.

I hope the Republicans don't screw it up.

What the hell is happening with Cash Patel

in the committee?

Why didn't they vote on him today?

That's a whole lot of essentially niceties going on.

At the beginning of this, Chuck Rashley, who I think is actually a good senator,

he's 92, and he also goes by the rules.

He's got his standards.

When they began the committee at the beginning of the Congress, they should have gotten rid of some of these rules that haven't been useful for a long time and existed from a period where Democrats and Republicans maybe came to bipartisan consensus.

One of them was the ability to delay a hearing.

A single member on that committee can ask.

They wanted to look for more information.

The problem for this is you know that these Democrats are going to vote in line against Cash Patel.

They're not looking for more information.

They're simply looking looking to delay and to sink.

Anything they can dig up to scare Republicans, they're going to do.

Republicans and Democrats, neither side has been able to use this rule for years now to do anything other than delay.

It actually hasn't changed any outcomes so far.

But I tell you, it does have some people nervous that they're going to find something to cause some kind of weak-kneed Republicans to quibble a little bit.

But I still think he's on lock right now to be confirmed in about 10 weeks.

I think so too.

But why did Chuck Grassley do this?

I mean, you know,

they always play by the rules, and I understand, but this isn't ⁇ you know, when you're using the rules as they're intended, that's fine.

But when you have

a bullcrap reason for doing it, and everyone knows this is just to delay, why is he going along with it?

You know, a good illustration of kind of the way he's been a chairman is he's so an older older time in the U.S.

Senate of more bipartisan consensus, which, by the way, I'll point out is also a time when Republicans are more of a controlled opposition party, the one that actually really governed or played hardball.

And it was wild to watch him during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings because he was looking left and right, and you could tell he was just kind of overwhelmed and amazed at the viciousness of the attacks from Democrats and how far they were willing to go.

It took him by surprise.

And old dogs don't learn a whole lot of new tricks.

So

walk, he walked into this committee process as thinking someone we're going to have mutual respect between the parties.

Yeah, that's so good.

We're going to go by the way the rules were.

And not, I think, fully expecting just how vicious Democrats might get.

If he were to go back, I suspect, if he had a go-back switch, he would have gotten rid of this rule at the time, but it was an oversight.

Let me switch to Doge and Elon Musk.

The media is running a non-stop campaign against Elon Musk.

He is doing everything the president campaigned with him on the campaign trail.

He would bring him out, say, this is the guy who's going to go in and he's going to look at every budget.

He's going to, with a team, go and look at everything.

He's doing it the right way.

He's doing it through the Office of Digital.

What is the office that he's actually running?

It was set up by Barack Obama to, if we can make government more efficient efficient by digitizing things, we should.

That's the office he's working out of.

And the left is just losing their mind.

It's kind of wild.

I'm writing about it right now for tomorrow's Beltway brief newsletter about, if you're on the Capitol Hill listservs, I used to have a house in Capitol Hill.

My wife is on the mom's listservs.

People are setting up support groups for federal workers who may have their feelings hurt or may be looking at eight months of paid salary if they resign.

People are trying to search around.

Can we find a USAID flag that I can fly in front of my house next to the rainbow flag, never an American flag on Capitol Hill?

The absolute panic gripping the city is incredible because Republicans have never actually done what they said they were going to do to actually tackle the deep state, to actually look at the bureaucracy.

I mean, tonight is the deadline for federal employees to take the offer that Elon Musk put out on behalf of the president to take a buyout until the summer in order to resign.

So you get paid, you get to look for another job, you get to figure things out.

And people at first were suspicious, but the numbers keep on growing.

10,000, 20,000 people have taken it.

And I strongly suspect that by the midnight deadline, which they've announced they will not extend, you're going to have an absolute flurry of people who say, I'm out of here, I'm done, I'm quitting, you can't fire me.

I

got to tell you, I would be taking that.

I mean, especially especially if I disagreed with Donald Trump, I'd get the hell out of town because, you know, especially in Intel, when Tulsi Gavard starts to go through those 18 agencies,

you know, you know, things were done and things were done at USAID that does the president know about this?

Let's not ask any questions.

President doesn't need to know.

When it comes to these black ops, you know, there are people who are like, I'm not taking the fall for this.

Excuse me.

I'm not taking the fall for this.

If we get caught, it's on your head, not mine.

All those conversations that have happened over the last 20, 30, 40 years,

all those chickens are coming home to roost.

I'd get the hell out of there, or I'd become a whistleblower.

You've been talking about this

ever since I first saw you on TV decades ago about the corruption and the connectedness between USAID, Department of State, the federal grants they give out, the lawsuits and the activist groups.

And this has been a real blessing, finally, for Elon Musk to pull it off and to see all these organizations and to have

these young and brilliant people who spend their free time trying to use computers to read ancient scrolls are now focusing their attention on what's going on in Washington, D.C.

and the interconnectedness and how much of the American left and the global left, which has been so successful that they seemed impenetrable and indestructible these last couple, 20 years or so, how much they're actually funded,

how much of it is fake, how much of it comes out of the U.S.

taxpayer, how much of it can't possibly stand up on its own.

And I think that half of the freak out that we're seeing isn't just because of USAID, which is a huge spreader of this money, but because of what they expect to be found after USAID, as they dig deeper, as you get people like Telsey Gabbard, exactly to your point.

So tell me, you wrote a story today

that honestly, I don't really understand about the

CIOs of every agency.

Can you tell me, you said this was absolutely critical and a very big deal.

I don't understand it.

Can you explain it?

Talk down to it.

It is because, so when you have the secretaries and the directors, they come in and they're appointed or they're confirmed by the Senate or they're sent in by the White House.

They rely on a team in these departments and agencies.

One of the top people they rely on is the chief information officer.

Now, that's someone that the left will always say, oh, they're non-political.

They're non-political, but non-political in D.C.

is code for Democrat.

This city is 95% Democrat.

That is all of them.

So non-political is just, don't touch me.

I'm above the rules.

I defend the Democrats.

Now, some of these guys are actually in there doing...

Yayman's work, but by and large, if you're the new secretary and you walk in and you say, I want all the communications between my agency, EPA, and these outside environmental groups, or I want to see what communications you had with the FBI in this subject, or I would like to see where all the projects are going.

I want an accounting for everything.

Where is the money going?

The chief information officer is the person who's going to get that to you.

And when they're trying to move against you, like they were in the first Trump administration, That just ends up with leaks of the New York Times.

It ends up with lawsuits.

It ends up with different activist groups coming at you.

Personal friends I know of mine, some of which declined to buy the insurance before going in, ended up being sued for millions of dollars for decisions that they made as executives to go after different kinds of wasteful spending that we're seeing go on right now.

Chief Information Officer can be someone who controls that.

But also, they do a lot of cybersecurity and protection of American data and American secrets.

In the modern world, with the Trump administration, they're looking at this and saying, I can get an engineer from Palantir.

I can get someone from Peter Thiel's world World to come in here and do cybersecurity.

Sure, it's a pay cut, but it's a couple of years as a chief information officer, Department of State, EPA, any of these different groups.

That's a cool thing on their resume.

It's an opportunity for them to serve, and we're going to get top-notch talent that way.

So, in every aspect, American security and the ability of the executive to actually know what's going on in their own agency, this is a crucial move, even if it is a little in the weeds.

I thank you for explaining that in a way I can understand.

The other thing that I saw today was that

they are freaking out about Doge going into

Medicare Medicaid and looking into

what department is that?

Health and Human Services.

Yeah.

And so going into there, which is a big one, they're expecting to find all kinds of fraud in that.

And the unions are starting to organize and saying

he can see raw numbers, but

we can't allow him to have any access to

names or social security numbers or anything else of any employee.

And one of the thoughts is that he is going to run those social security numbers and find out what you were paying in taxes, what you're making.

Are you working from home on another job when you're supposed to be working full-time?

Have you heard that?

Yes, that's one of the things.

That's That's one of the ways that the administration has to fire people with cause is having secondary work and

taking money from outside sources while you're supposed to be a full-time federal employee.

How many of these people are taking gigs with the gig economy?

How many of these people are taking payments from some other side hustle?

It's kind of, it's been really wild.

It's been a conversation around school playgrounds and even to churches around D.C.

between employees who, for the first time, that they've been six-figure federal employees for years, have to figure out who's going to watch their kids during the day while they're at work.

The kind of thing that you and I had to figure out when we went to work.

We put on our big boy pants and went to a job.

And it shows you exactly where their priorities have been.

D.C.'s outside markets on a nice day and outside bars and cafes are absolutely packed with people hanging out with their friends, quote-unquote, working from home.

And you'll see it over and over again.

And it's something that Elon Musk has railed against in his

previous companies, at

his rocket shield company, at Tesla, at Twitter.

He comes in and says, we're done.

You're coming into the office.

It's essential for you to be here.

And this is going to be a path for him to get in there.

But it is one of the freakouts.

And it's one of the places you're going to start to see, they're so disorganized right now, but start to see a flurry of lawsuits.

from the unions, from employees, and from activist groups trying to stop everything they can.

So progress, this is kind of the opening strike, and I expect progress to slow and grind down a little bit.

But if he keeps on moving at this pace, this frenetic pace, he keeps on working weekends, as he says, we're still going to make incredible progress.

I got to tell you, I talked to Holman last night, and I said, you know, how far...

Planned out are all of you guys?

And he said, oh, we're in phase one.

In about four weeks, phase two is coming, and then we have three and four.

He said, I'm not going to give anything away, but we're a long way from being done.

This is well planned out.

I don't think it's going to slow down.

Imagine if the liberals could go back in time and just treat Donald Trump like a normal Republican instead of trying to put him in prison.

I think they would take that deal in a heartbeat.

What they've created now is incredible.

Thank you so much.

Christopher Bedford, he is Blaze Media Senior Editor for Politics, Blaze Media Washington correspondent.

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The waste that we've just found in 17 days.

I mean, we're opening up drawers.

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And every American should be outraged by it.

What has happened on the border and the money that has been sent to George Soros and the UN and everything else that shows you this was coordinated, that this was not,

you know, due to some,

even just the president saying, hey,

we're not enforced the borders.

This was a literal invitation and a plan that was paid for to bring people here to the United States.

It's disgusting.

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Don't miss, exposed how our government funded the illegal immigration disaster.

It's the tip of the iceberg.

It's the tip of the iceberg.

It's,

man,

incredible.

So you're saying they're doing things that we wouldn't approve of?

Wow, that's

shocking.

Yeah.

You know what is shocking?

How long have we been talking about this, Pat?

Oh,

decades.

Decades, decades.

And nothing was ever done.

Right.

And now all of a sudden, I mean, I told you I was, you know, hanging with the president over the summer and I like, he's a different man.

He is, I think he's got a plan.

I didn't even expect this.

Whoa.

I mean, I don't, no, nobody did.

Yeah.

Nobody did.

He did.

He kept saying, trust me.

Look what we're going to do.

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You know, I'm I'm having a hard time understanding

how Democrats, well, no, I can't say that.

Democrats are just not getting the truth.

And I mean the Democrat that lives, you know, down the street from you.

They're just not getting the truth.

They're still listening to the mainstream media.

You know, the mainstream media is dismissing the,

as Liz Wheeler pointed out, the $34.5

million

gift from the government to Politico.

And we're going to have a lot more on that.

All of the things that are happening and

they're being

souped up by these corrupt people in Washington.

I mean,

how is it

people are angry

that Elon Musk is coming in?

and finding waste.

That's something all of us should want.

Right?

Because it's our money.

Yeah.

It's our money that's being wasted.

And this is the tip of the iceberg.

First of all, when we're talking about USAID, what's really important, and I know you understand this, if you've listened to me for a long time or you watched any of the shows, I mean, we exposed all of this, oh my gosh, 2010.

We started exposing it, but it really came to the fore when we started talking about Ukraine under the first Trump administration when they blamed him for

corruption with Ukraine and the impeachment.

We started looking into what happened in Ukraine.

And my gosh,

USAID, as we have always told you, is

an arm of the CIA.

Anything that is too risky to do that you just don't want to do in the CIA because somebody's paying attention,

you do it at USAID.

So all the revolutions, all the color revolutions that happen all around the world, they were done by us.

The Arab Spring was done by us.

You know,

we looked at that and we were told this is just a spontaneous, no, it wasn't.

It was USAID.

And if you look at, I mean, just

ask your friends who are Democrats, Are you cool to spend $7.9 million to teach Sri Lankan journalists how to avoid binary gendered language?

$20 million for a new Sesame Street show in Iraq.

Actually, that one

you could make a case for

because all of the kids are being, you know, brainwashed into

whatever.

I mean, I...

I don't want to do it, but that one you could make a case for.

$4.5 million plus to combat disinformation in Kakistan

$1.5.5 million?

Yeah.

I could hire everybody in Kakistan right now just to talk to the sheep.

Tajikistan.

Whatever.

Yes.

Okay.

You could understand it.

Tajikistan, but not Kajikistan.

Yeah, right.

That's just a totally, completely different.

So $1.5 million for art for inclusion of people with disabilities.

$2 million for sex changes and

LGBT activism in Guatemala.

$6 million to transform digital spaces to reflect feminist democratic principles.

I don't even know what those

democratic feminist principles are, but

transform digital spaces?

So spaces that don't actually exist?

$2.1 million to help the BBC value the diversity of Libyan society.

It's not funny, but it sounds it when you hear it this way.

I would like a Democrat that's very upset with the

closure of USAID to come on and just defend any of this.

$2.1 million to help the BBC, which is the British broadcasting company, which is on the European, I'm sorry, the English dole,

has money coming out there, but from the king, and we're paying, so they value the diversity of Libyan society?

I don't even know the diversity of the Libyan society.

I don't really care about the diversity of the Libyan society.

$10 million worth of USAID-funded meals, which went to an al-Qaeda-linked terrorist group.

$25 million for Deloitte to promote green transportation in the country of Georgia.

The president of Georgia told me once, he said,

we get American values.

We are...

We're all behind the founders of America.

We get it.

We understand freedom probably better than you do because we had to fight for our freedom recently.

He said, please don't send us any more freedom stuff.

We got it.

Stop sending us

the Marxists and the people who are trying to put us back into that situation.

Wow.

$6 million for tourism in Egypt.

What?

Honestly, you know, here's the best thing you can do for tourism.

Don't foment,

you know, an Arab Spring.

That kind of stopped me from going to Egypt, you know.

Stop terrorism.

That would be a good thing.

$2.5 million to promote inclusion in Vietnam.

Yeah, I like the next line item, too.

$16.8 million for

a separate

group.

To promote inclusion

Vietnam.

Wait, so there's two groups.

You can include the two groups.

So you got to have them separate.

And one only gets 2.5 and the other one gets $16.8 million.

Do you know what $16.8 million would buy in Vietnam?

Oh.

Can you imagine

how far the dollar goes?

I mean, you can, and this is USAID.

This is their whole point.

You can have revolutions in some countries with this amount of money.

$5 million to EcoHealth Alliance.

Oh.

One of the key NGOs funding bat virus research in the Wuhan lab.

$20 million to a group related to a key player in the Russiagate impeachment hoax.

$1.1 million to an Armenian LGBT group.

I love how specific this is getting, too, you know?

We got an LGBT group in, I don't know, I think Armenia.

$1.2 million to help the African Methodist Episcopal Church Service and Development Agency in Washington, D.C.

build a state-of-the-art 440-seat auditorium.

That's just so ridiculous.

The African Methodist Episcopal Church, okay, so

Methodist Episcopal

Church Services and Development Agency in Washington, D.C.

to build a state-of-the-art for.

Oh, at least that stayed in the U.S.

then, huh?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's good.

Creating jobs.

Yeah.

$1.3 million to

Arab and Jewish photographers.

I don't.

What did we?

Did we get some good pictures?

At least show me some great black and whites.

I mean, do we have any great black and whites?

$1.5 million to promote

LGBT advocacy in Jamaica.

They got to love that.

$1.5 million to rebuild the Cuban media ecosystem.

Yeah,

that's been crumbling for I've been saying it for

when is somebody got to come in

and rebuild that ecosystem.

Yeah,

that's got to happen.

Again, I go back to $1.5 million to promote LGBT advocacy in Jamaica.

Have you been to Jamaica?

Do you know how much $1.5 million would buy in Jamaica?

A lot.

A ton.

A lot.

$1.5 million to rebuild the Cuban media ecosystem.

I think you could buy the presidential palace in Cuba for $1.5 million.

$2 million to promote LGBT equity.

through entrepreneurship in Latin America, $500,000 to solve sectarian violence in Israel.

By the way, they gave that just before, you know, just a few days before October 7th.

$2.3 million for artisanal and small-scale gold mining in the Amazon.

Jeez.

Are we...

Do we get to keep the gold?

Do we get any of the gold?

Are we just...

My guess is no.

No.

$3.9 million for LGBT causes in the Western Balkans.

You know, when you have something that vague,

you know what, you could spend that on anything, on absolutely anything.

$5.5 million for LGBT activism in Uganda, $6 million for advancing LGBT issues in priority countries around the world.

What countries are

6.3 for men who have sex with men in South Africa?

Do we just go out in the public square and say, hey, if you're a guy who's having sex with a a guy, can you raise your hand?

I got some money for you.

What the hell is that?

$6.3 million for men who have sex with men in South Africa.

$8.3 million for U.S.AID education, equity, and inclusion.

U.S.

AIDS climate strategy outlined $150 billion whole-of-agency approach to building an equitable world with net zero greenhouse gas emissions.

I mean,

give that list to your friends and just say, hey,

what part of this are you for?

Are we just immune to numbers like that now?

Yeah, I think we are.

We hear trillions now so often, hundreds of billions and trillions now, that maybe when we hear, you know, $20 million for Egypt tourism, maybe it just doesn't affect us anymore.

We're like, ah, that's not very much.

It's more than most people will pay in income tax their life.

Ever in their life.

Wasted.

Yeah.

Wasted.

And your kids are on the hook for a loan to pay for things like that because

we're $3 trillion over budget.

Every American, I don't care who you voted for, every American should be pissed off at this.

And

since when has America been okay

with being this dark ops country?

We're not fighting communism anymore.

Okay.

When have we suddenly become

comfortable with just overthrowing countries, just overthrowing regimes, just going in and having the CI, not making the case for it, just going in and having a few people, along with George Soros, just decide that regime shouldn't be here.

We're going to overthrow it.

When did we become cool with all of this?

The answer is we didn't.

We didn't.

The biggest enemy we fight is complacency.

It's not the other side.

It's not this ideology.

It's complacency.

All this stuff would be stopped if there were enough people on both sides, all sides, that would stand up and go, what the hell is this?

I mean, we can talk about disagreement on the tax policy and everything, but this has got to stop right now.

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You have to admire

this whole thing that Trump has put together.

This isn't Agenda 2025.

I mean, he has had others, you know, help on it, but this is something that he has put together and has driven, and

he's driving it like a business.

I've been telling you all week that he's been negotiating with the tariffs.

Well, because he paused the 25% tariff on Mexico for 30 days, they agreed to send 10,000 troops to their border.

We don't even have 10,000 troops on the border.

Uh-uh.

Nowhere near.

So they've sent their troops to Chihuahua and Juarez, and they intend to send more to Matamoros, Mexicali, Nogales, Nuevo, Laredo, Reynosa, and Tijuana.

So all along the Mexican-Texas border,

they're going to station troops there to help ensure that illegal stop and certainly drug cartels stop crossing.

Drug cartels are in for a world of harm.

Oh, man.

I mean,

their gravy train could be about to end, and they make something like $500 billion a year.

I mean, it's quite a gravy train.

They're not going to be happy about it.

No.

I mean,

imagine you're going to lose $500 billion a year.

You're going to put up a fight.

You're going to put up a big fight.

Yeah.

A really big fight.

That's why it was also important for him to declare them a terrorist organization so we can use the military against him.

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