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Welcome to the Glendbeck program.

Glad you're here.

We're at the America First Policy Institute, which is kind of ground zero for everything that happened yesterday and is coming.

Chad Wolf is with us.

He was the DHS acting secretary

for a while, and he's also the America First Policy Institute executive director and chief strategy officer.

Great job on yesterday.

Whatever role you guys played yesterday, that was impressive.

Well, I appreciate it.

I think we played a role as well as many other groups and individuals.

A lot of what we've been doing over these three and a half years was to lay the groundwork for what occurred yesterday, both from talking about what does it mean to be America first, what does it mean to bring America first policies into public policy, and then a lot of work we did to help the transition to get to where they were in order to sign over 200 executive actions yesterday and to really hit the ground running as hopefully they're doing in every department and every agency today to move forward.

So what is today

like?

What is happening today?

If you're a Trump political appointee and you're inside, so I'll talk about it two different ways.

If you're inside an agency like DHS or the Department of Ed or State Department, it's drinking from a fire hose, right?

Because there's a limited number of you coming in on day one, and then they slowly start to populate those agencies over a period of time.

You're coming in and you're trying to get your hands around major decisions that have to be made.

Get your hands around the budget.

Budget drives priorities in a lot of these agencies and departments.

Getting your hands around that, getting your hands around hiring decisions.

All of these things matter because all of these turn into policy.

Couldn't you look at the budget before you got in?

Is there anybody?

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, you can get a sense of the overall budget, but what have they spent in the last two weeks?

And where have they spent that?

And what are their priorities for spending that?

Or who have they appointed to lead certain agencies' career, sorry, not agencies, but departments within an agency?

And did they appoint them in the last two weeks, right?

To slow down the agenda.

When I came into DHS in 2017, I started asking for, let me see the list of SES, which is the senior executive service.

Well, finally, I got it after a lot of delay.

And almost a third of them were appointed in the last two weeks before President Trump took office.

Wow.

Right.

And so it gave you a sense of, well, They didn't let us pick them because they could have easily just delayed some of those selections and made some recommendations.

They didn't do that.

They made the appointments, and they did that for a reason.

So, you know, the president talks about the deep state.

You can call them the administrative state or whatever it might be.

I think that's a challenge.

I think that appointees coming in today, they're trying to get their hands around.

So, what is the administration found, or what is the tact that they're going to use on just firing people?

I mean, mass firings have got to happen.

Yeah, absolutely.

Unfortunately, I would say that there's a lot in law that makes that difficult, just

protections that Congress has passed for the civil service team overall.

But what you can do is you can identify who the problems are, right?

You can look at their past performance.

My sense is from serving for the last, you know, the previous four years, the team has a good sense of who those are.

You can move them out of

the way, right?

So move them from one agency or sorry, one

office to another, right?

So if you have, if they're in an office that's critical to the operations of that department and they're not on the team and they're a problem, they're underperformers, well, you can start the process of removing them by moving them to another office that maybe is not as important.

And you just kind of move them out of the way until you can start the whole process.

Because what they do is they'll throw an EEO complaint in.

They'll throw a whistleblower complaint in.

All designed to slow down the process of their removal.

Right.

I got to tell you.

I mean,

if you could get them and move them, you know, you'd have the biggest department in America, you know, the department of deadbeats.

You'd just, I mean, it's like

the teachers union in New York.

You can molest a kid, and they don't fire you.

They just move you into a place where you just show up every day and sit in the classroom.

Now, you can remove federal employees.

It's just difficult.

It's hard.

But who do they work with?

I mean,

it's crazy.

If the administrator is not in charge of the hiring and firing, then

he's not in charge of anything.

Three.

Is that going to be challenged?

I'm sure it will, but I think it's pretty good.

You know, there's pretty good case law that allows them to remove individuals.

The question is whether you can speed it up or not.

My guess is the team is looking at ways to do that.

So he came in yesterday,

and I love this, like a wrecking ball.

Yep.

When is the average person going to start to see any of the effects of what's happening here in the first week?

Yeah, I'm hopeful soon.

It's hard to give you an exact timeline, right?

Just depends on where you are, right?

If you start to see changes in your school system or in the schools that you're in or your DEI programs, if you work in a large corporation, perhaps they're getting rid of those on day one or very soon.

If you're along the border, hopefully you're seeing some real changes very, very quickly.

Almost every community is impacted by fentanyl.

Hopefully at some point that starts to turn as well.

And I'm very hopeful that it will.

So it just depends on, you know, how do you view as an American

changes to your life, You know, depending on what you care about, the taxes, the inflation, that might take a little bit longer, but that's going to come with relief as well.

How do you look at, or how will the drug cartels look at what he did yesterday?

What are you expecting?

I mean, I would love to actually have a war on drugs and just annihilate those people.

Yeah, I think they were put on notice.

They were put on notice.

Obviously, there's a lot of changes, but saying that we're going to start the process of designating them as a foreign terrorist organization, That is

a shot across the bow, right?

I mean, that's to say, you're a target now.

Yeah.

And I give them a lot of credit.

I mean, we've talked about this for a long time, and we've talked about the issue of cartels.

We've admired the problem for years and decades, and we've treated it as a law enforcement issue primarily with ATF and DEA and others.

And we've had some wins from time to time, but it's not getting any better.

I have to tell you, it's almost as if our government has been working with them, at least in the last four years.

We're enabling enabling them.

We're empowering them.

They, being the cartels,

had made more money.

They had more power, more territory, and more weapons than they have ever had before because of the human trafficking that occurred over the last four years and the amount of money that they made off of that, right?

It's important to remember of the millions of folks that came across that border, every single one of them paid anywhere from $10,000 to $30,000, depending on where they came from in the world.

That all goes into the pockets of the cartels.

And so you can imagine what that does.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

The

outcry from deporting, you know,

President Trump said yesterday, this is more than even Eisenhower did, who was the number one.

No, he wasn't.

It was Bill Clinton.

11 million people were deported under Bill Clinton one way or another.

And I never heard word one of any whining about it under Bill Clinton.

What do you how how are we going to combat the media just losing their mind about these poor people?

Well, no whining under Bill Clinton, no whining when

Hillary Clinton signed the Secure Fence Act.

Yeah.

And whenever that was that said, hey, you've got to build physical infrastructure along that wall.

And now people are like, the wall is racist, right?

It just depends on the politics.

I think that the left is going to work overtime.

And we already saw this in the Washington Post yesterday because they canceled the CBP one app at 12 noon, right?

The Washington Post had a story up probably about four hours later about how this family had been waiting for months to get their CBP1 app and it was it was canceled at the last minute.

And you're sort of like, yeah,

elections have consequences and this is what occurs.

Yeah.

So they're already a friend.

Yeah, they're already working overtime.

They're going to find the most sympathetic story and their goal.

is not to fight on the policy.

They know that the American people

like the policy that President Trump is implementing.

They're going to try to pull pull on the heartstrings.

Yes.

And they're just going to try to do that and do that over time to where it just wears them down.

And so

every time I hear a sympathetic story, I think about

Lincoln Riley.

I think about Rachel Morin.

I think about those families that will never have their children back because of what the Biden administration did over the last four years.

So let me talk to you about security in a different way.

We know a lot of people have come across the border that wish us ill.

You know, you don't have to comment on this.

I would love to hear it, but

I wonder how much of, gee, it's cold outside, was also

protection for the president.

Let's not put him out in harm's way, needlessly.

Now that, you know, we have CNN saying, we're going to take over Greenland and we're going to march our troops into Greenland.

You know,

the world is on fire enough.

What are you seeing for security here in America?

Well, I don't have access to any classified information, but what I could probably imagine is definitely the chatter was up, right?

And so you saw a number of security measures that we haven't seen before during inauguration.

But you saw that during the campaign.

I mean, he was targeted twice.

And his threat profile during that campaign was much higher than President Biden's was, right?

Well, you have to be significantly

point taken.

But coming into office, that's only going to increase.

And so this is a president that tells you exactly what he thinks

and

is going to advocate as he did yesterday and will continue to what is to the benefit of American, the American people.

And that's going to piss off a lot of people.

It's going to piss off a lot of special interest.

And others that like the status quo the way it is, whether it's the cartels, we were just talking about it.

They like the status quo the way it is.

They want to coexist in this like harmony to where they can do what they do

and the U.S.

does what it does.

And President Trump's saying, no, that's not the way I'm going to do it.

And so I'm going to challenge that status quo.

And in doing so, he's going to make enemies.

Does the administration

still remember, do they have a long enough memory?

I know Trump does.

But do they have a long enough memory on who these people are that are all coming in?

You know, you saw Bezos and everybody else.

And, you know, the media hated those people.

I mean, loved those people.

Now they hate them, but they were their best friends.

They were calling each other at night.

Hey, can you suppress this?

Can you suppress that?

Now they're all in bed with Donald Trump.

And I know exactly who they are.

I mean, you know,

does a rattlesnake make a good pet?

Yes, as long as you always remember it's a rattlesnake and not a cute little puppy dog.

These are rattlesnakes that have just folded their fangs back for a little while.

I'm concerned about the people that are now coming in going,

bloody, here we are.

Do we have a long enough memory on the right?

Yeah, I think we do.

I agree with you.

President Trump certainly does.

I think he knows that.

I think at the same time, they're always trying to figure out, you know, we hear this term a lot, growing the tent.

Whether you grow the tent with those folks or not.

I think they're probably interested in their self-interest and what's best for their companies.

And I understand that there's a place for that as long as you always remember remember their rationality.

And so if that coincides with what the president and his team want to do, great.

But I agree with you.

I mean, you've got to understand

that for the longest time, definitely four years during his term and almost four years during Biden, they were on the other side of a lot of these issues.

DEI, right?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, they were happy to put these things in place, and only now are they canceling it.

And does that change?

Yeah.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

That's Chad Wolf.

He's from the America First Policy Institute.

He's the executive director.

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All right, let me go to Mike Lee.

Senator, how are you, sir?

Doing great.

It's good to be with you as always.

So I wanted to ask you,

you tweeted something last night.

Is DC ignoring Trump's pardons?

If it is, then this is definitely a time to repeal D.C.

home rule.

You had me at the word repeal.

D.C.'s government has no right to exist constitutionally.

Congress shouldn't have delegated its lawmaking authority over D.C.

It's time to take it back.

I love you.

Okay, tell me what this means.

What this means is that Congress needs to do its job.

We've had a problem for a long time with Congress delegating its lawmaking power to unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats.

We've got a corresponding problem in that we're supposed to be the lawmaker for the District of Columbia.

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, sometimes known as the Enclave Clause, gives us that power.

We've been delegating that to the DC government for about a half century.

The results have been disastrous.

The results have been a government that doesn't serve the interests of the people well.

It's

a radical leftist regime that runs it.

Their schools are failing.

Crime rates are soaring.

And last night, from what we can tell, after Trump issued a pardon for a number of prisoners involved with January 6th, there were only two released last night.

And I spoke to someone last night who had gone down personally to the D.C.

jail, saw that only two of them had been released.

And jail officials at the D.C.

jail announced that they wouldn't be releasing any more last night.

Now, this is not hard, Glenn.

They have names and they have pardons.

They can identify those prisoners who have been pardoned.

Trump's directive was that they were to be released immediately, as one should when one

sees that somebody's been pardoned and they still weren't out.

So we're still trying to get names, numbers, and verify that this

is how this is happening.

But from what we can tell, they haven't complied with it yet.

It's yet another reason to revisit D.C.'s home rule, which I think should be repealed.

That's extraordinary

that they would

be that bold and say,

because everybody was watching them last night.

I haven't heard this reported.

I mean, CNN is the only thing I can get in this stupid hotel.

By the way, if anybody on my staff books me at a hipster hotel one more time, heads will roll.

I want actual furniture, not bean bags.

Thank you.

The hipster hotel feels exactly the same way, by the way.

Oh, my.

They were really popular.

What'd you say?

Oh, they were very popular.

And who doesn't love them?

I'm not.

18 years old anymore.

Please book me in an adult's room.

Anyway,

I was watching CNN last night, and they had people stationed out there, and they were just complaining that criminals that had killed police officers on January 6th were just being released.

You're saying that there's only two that were released last night and

nothing yet this morning that you know of?

That's right.

That's right.

My former staffer, Sean Peterson, was down at the D.C.

jail, and he said that they released two of them through a back door, and then a jail official said, we're not releasing any more tonight, even though there were apparently many more to be released.

Now, again,

as you glent, these are people who have been pardoned, and this is a government that has done like things like this for a long time.

I've got story after story of horrible things they've done.

You know, DC allows non-citizen voting in their local elections.

You know how difficult that can be to disentangle the people who were casting votes in the local elections from those who were voting in true federal elections.

That is a problem in and of itself.

You've also got the fact that they've just

time after time they've taken positions that harm the people of D.C.

make everything more expensive.

These guys have high tax rates.

They spend like crazy in education, yet they've got one of the most failing school systems in the entire country.

You want to know something interesting?

Four years ago,

an elite unit from the Utah National Guard was out here in D.C.

protecting D.C., protecting the White House from the violence that was erupting in the summer of 2020 in this city.

In the middle of the night, after they'd gone through like a 36-hour shift, none of these guys had slept in 36 hours.

They had worked all night and all day and all day the next day.

They were evicted by the office of the mayor of the DC government.

These are the kind of people these are, and they've been begging for a repeal of D.C.

home rule for a long time.

We need it now.

They've been begging for it by the terrible things they do.

I want to cut the mayor of D.C.

some slack because they might have been high on crack.

And

I think that, I mean, because that is a tradition, isn't it, Stu?

for the D.C.

mayors to be high on crack.

Yeah, I think it's part of the

part of the deal.

You have to at least be be high on crack occasionally, I believe.

So, Mike, is this going to gain any traction?

What are you going to do?

Well, the first thing we've got to do is make sure that these prisoners who have been pardoned are, in fact, released.

But I think the word needs to spread.

Obviously, this is a niche issue.

Period is a local issue, and it's an issue that's very emotional for many of the people who live in and around the area.

But I think more and more residents of D.C.

are getting wise to the fact that something's not working right.

And increasingly on the hill...

Hang on, just add a little bit.

What does this mean?

What would this mean for the judicial system?

Because you can't get a fair trial here in Washington, D.C.

And, you know, anything goes wrong in Washington, D.C., anybody commits any crimes in the Capitol or in the White House, it's all tried here in Washington, D.C.

And it's so corrupt.

It's got to stop.

What would this mean for that system?

Well, look, at least for the system of deciding who's going to be prosecuted, who would be running the city, would change.

And you'd start to see people prosecuted for

more things like property crimes.

Sort of the Soros-funded prosecutor mentality has infected this city, and it shows.

I've lost count of how many members of Congress and how many staff members of members of Congress, the people I interact with most when I'm in Washington, of course, have been assaulted, have been carjacked, have been stabbed,

have been robbed, often in broad daylight, often within a block or two of the U.S.

Capitol, which is one of the more heavily policed, heavily secured locations anywhere in America.

And yet this happens here because there is an environment of lawlessness.

The more this happens, the more members of Congress are seeing that this isn't working.

This is our capital city.

It should be a shining city on a hill.

We We can't let it slip into this state of disrepair and utter lawlessness.

It would be helpful if people started tweeting and started calling their senator or house member and started some grassroot effort to repeal D.C.

home rule.

It might gather some attention if people started doing that today.

Mike, let me ask you about...

I've been tweeting

from my base at BaseMike Lee account over and over again, repeat, repeal DC Home Rule.

So if people want to join in this,

you can retweet me.

You can tweet on your own.

Send out posts on X, on any other social media platform, contact your members of Congress and tell them, the message is very simple.

Repeal DC Home Rule.

Mike,

the idea that we can no longer go

after Fauci or any of the people on January 6th,

what does that mean to you?

Well, what it means to me, first of all, is that these guys are going to have a hard time, perhaps an impossible time, invoking the Fifth Amendment, not if, but when they're subpoenaed to testify in congressional hearings.

Because if they've been pardoned, then

one can rationally, logically conclude that there's no risk of prosecution.

And if that's the case, I don't think they can invoke their Fifth Amendment rights to remain silent.

And we can finally get to the bottom of exactly what happened.

It also means that there was an understanding that some things happened.

Some things happened that would otherwise likely be

likely to lead to an investigation, if not promote charges to be brought against some of these people.

What do you mean?

Because I watched enough CNN yesterday.

I watched CNN enough yesterday to know that they're spinning this as they're just doing this as preemptive against Trump because he's going to go after these poor people.

Yep.

So if you believe that, then you're likely somebody who believed Fauci in the first place.

And you're quite possibly somebody who, even after Anthony Fauci, was caught repeatedly lying.

in some cases under oath, to Rand Paul

and others who asked them questions.

But remember, Rand Paul was raising the question very early on about gain of function research.

Tony Sauci repeatedly denied that there was gain of research funding happening.

And of course it was all the time.

They were covering it up.

They tried to use a different name to characterize it.

But it was still gain of function research.

Tony Sauci also spread the false rumor that this was

the result of, I don't know, a pangolin and a monkey holding hands in a park somewhere in Wuhan, and that produced the virus.

And a lot of people were harmed as a result of this.

The COVID deaths and illnesses in and of themselves were bad enough, and the predictable, foreseeable outcome of the U.S.

government funding gain of research activities in places like Wuhan, a place that was known to have a horrible hygiene record.

And that's how things like this happen.

People get hurt.

And then the country overreacts, and more bad things happen all over the place.

Yeah, this has got to be investigated.

And yeah, President Biden,

Tony Fauci, faced real problems here.

That's why Trump needed to act.

And I'm glad that Trump is going to see to it.

The truth comes out.

Biden may well be able.

to pardon him, and he, in fact, did.

But in some ways, that helps us get to the bottom of the truth.

We've got to subpoena the heck out of these guys and get the truth out of them.

Because

if they tell a lie on the witness stand, if they deny what we now know because of documents to be the truth, they can be prosecuted for that lie, can they not?

Yes, yes, of course.

Of course.

And of course, the whole point here is not, we can't undo the damage these guys did.

And the point isn't to torment them for the sake of tormenting them.

The point here, Glenn, is that we've got to get to the bottom of the truth because otherwise this kind of pattern of abusive government continues to happen.

And I will flag here the fact that if we understood the nature of the federal government, if we read the Constitution and understood the twin structural protections at the heart of it, the vertical protection that we call federalism, the horizontal protection that we call separation of powers, this crap would end.

And so

we've got to restore the movement in America, getting people to read and understand the Constitution, particularly the structural Constitution, which has been badly neglected and bastardized over the last 80 years.

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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

And Jen Pellegrino, who is America First Policy Institute Senior Director.

She is also American First Policy Institute chief chief spokesperson.

If you don't know anything about America First Policy Institute, I kind of say good, really,

because they kind of kept everything under wraps and they were just putting their head down, not looking to score points or become famous or anything.

They wanted to make sure that they could actually get in and do the hard work once this administration started.

And a lot of the people that have been working with America First are now in cabinet level and just under the cabinet level.

So there's

a lot of planning

that happened here that was started to execute yesterday, right?

Exactly.

A lot of planning.

And we're so proud of the work that's been done here, Glenn.

I've been only on the team for a little over a month now, but I look back to my career as a journalist and interviewing a number of experts and leaders from AFPI over the years.

And it's really been incredible to watch the work that they've done that have led us to this place where we have this mandate, this massive victory, this new day in America.

That is largely thanks to the work, the research, the policy that AFPI has developed.

And you think back to 2021 when Brooke Rollins, who had worked in the Trump administration the first time around, had this vision.

I mean, it was the start of a dark time in this country, the dark winter, as Joe Biden called it back then.

right

and you know when so many conservatives were out there feeling defeated feeling like it was over for us, and it only got worse as the years went on, Brooks had a vision and thought we could have a great comeback.

And it's amazing to see how that transforms where we are.

This is the first time, and I know, you know, it's happened with every president, but this is the first time that I felt we stepped up our game so much, we were...

at least competitive with the left on once you win.

You know, the left comes in and they've done so much homework that they're building a machine and they've been building this machine forever.

And we never seem to come in with a schematic and go, no, no, no, that part has to be removed and that part has to, and we're building a machine and here are the new parts.

I feel like we've done that this time for the first time in a dramatically significant way.

Would you agree with that?

I would agree with that, Glenn.

And you know, it's been a process, right?

I think that the left,

in my opinion, it goes back to 2020 when our cities were burning.

And I think Americans were sick and tired of seeing it.

I remember being in the middle of it in D.C.

And on the weekends, having to get out of town because I couldn't think about what was happening.

It was stressing me out personally.

And I think so many Americans watching that, they said, we're done, you know, sitting back and being quiet.

We have to speak louder.

We have to have a backbone.

We have to push back a little bit more because they were doing it on the left.

And so it's been really remarkable to see how, you know, year by year, slowly but surely, we're starting to kind of pull back a little bit to regain that control.

And obviously, AFPI has been a great leader in that space and getting the messaging out there.

But I think Americans have just gotten fed up.

They're sick of being lied to by administrations, by the media.

And they said, we're not going to have it anymore.

So why do we have the White House correspondent?

I mean, I know the history, but the White House correspondents, they control the press room.

Why?

What

question?

Why don't we just get rid of that?

We should.

We should.

I'll tell you, when I was a White House correspondent during the last Trump administration, it was brutal.

You know, they did not want conservative outlets in there.

Aside from kind of the big names that we all know, the smaller outlets that a lot of people watch, that they look to, that they feel are more truthful in delivering the news, more transparent, the White House Correspondents Association was threatened by.

It was in the way they treated me every day when I was in that room.

When the Trump administration said, we want you in there to report.

I had to stand off to the side.

I'd get blocked with a ladder.

They tried to also...

What do you mean blocked by a ladder?

Oh, blocked by a ladder.

So photographers that would be in there put a ladder in front of where I'd be standing off to the side so that I couldn't see the podium, so that the president who would call on me wouldn't see me.

So they would do all kinds of things to try to make your life difficult from putting notes on your station down in the basement at the White House there, the press basement,

really kind of some passive aggressive action and trying to, you know, prevent you from doing your job because they were certainly threatened by it.

And so I really hope, you know, given the way President Trump and his team have handled the media so well,

especially this last election cycle.

I really hope given all that they've learned and experienced that they transform that briefing room.

Yeah.

Have the right people in there because you know what?

Americans are sick and tired of being lied to, Glenn.

Yeah, I don't have a problem with you know the left being in there right just an equal share of right should be in there as well you shouldn't have a hostile press room every time the press secretary walks out on either side you know you should be able to call on the the people that people are actually listening to and I have to tell you People are not listening to CNN.

And I mean, those days are over.

It's over.

And the White House press corps should be dismissed.

Your time, you know, you had, you know, from Woodrow Wilson till now, congratulations on that cute little idea, but things have changed and you no longer can pull all the strings.

Exactly.

And you look at how the media landscape is changing, right?

I mean, you look at your success, Glenn, so many others that are outside of that legacy media space.

That's what people are turning to now because they're so tired of being lied to.

It was so out there and open that they lied to us again and again.

I mean, look at going into the 2024 election.

How many Americans thought Kamala Harris had it?

She had it in the bag.

She was winning.

Look at all these celebrity endorsements.

Oh, yeah.

And yet they weren't doing real reporting as to what was actually going on.

So a lot of people were surprised that we won in such a landslide.

How much are you going to miss Crane John?

Oh, man.

You know, I'll miss making fun of those exchanges.

That was always entertaining.

But it was such an embarrassment.

I mean, you think about how we look on the world stage as these briefings are taking place.

You know, they love to say how the adults were back in charge when they moved to Washington, and it was the exact opposite.

I have never seen anybody less prepared for a job, even at the end of her job, than KJP.

Everybody.

You can say that of just about anybody in the Biden administration.

I mean, such an embarrassment.

Again, I mean, you look at Jen Saki.

Some say she did all right when peddling the lies.

Sure.

But KJP just, you know, was buying into it and thought we did too.

She had no clue.

Half the time, she had to bring in somebody else to do her work because she couldn't explain the questions that were being asked by the process.

And she never got her nose out of that book.

Never.

Never.

I mean, it was like you're not talking to a real person.

I mean, why not just have AI in there answering the questions?

Why not have the cheat sheet like Joe Biden always carried around, right?

I mean, it was everything was so choreographed and down to, I'm calling on this outlet first.

This is the question.

And then there's the back of his head.

So what are your feelings about actually being able to change the game?

What have you guys done here that

we can actually reduce the size of this government?

How confident are you that we're going to be able to do that?

Listen, I think it's going to take some work.

It's obviously a massive undertaking, but we've got a lot of momentum right now.

We've look at how many people from the America First Policy Institute have gone into the new administration.

At some point, a lot of them will come back here as we see transitions.

But I think there's a lot of effective leaders that the president has brought around him.

When you look at this new cabinet and you look at other staffers in the West Wing, so I think that they're going to be ready to get to work.

You saw that in the actions he took yesterday.

You know, he said in one of his rally speeches, yeah, somebody told me to kind of release these orders, you know, a few at a time.

And he said, heck, I will.

You know, we're getting to work today because that's what the American people have asked for.

We've suffered long enough.

And he really changed the paradigm, I think.

I mean,

just the idea of the transparency of signing, explaining and signing all of those in front of people.

And then last night he goes back to the White House and he's signing more executive orders with the press in the room.

And he's holding this impromptu press conference, which was, you would have never seen that.

Never.

Nobody does that.

Nobody does that.

And you wouldn't see a fraction of that work out of this last administration in a week, right?

I mean, it was early on, obviously, they reversed all of Trump's work, but you know, it was aside from that, how often was Joe Biden and Rehoboth laying on the beach?

Yeah.

And now President Trump is getting to work and getting us back to where we were in an even better place than where we were four years ago.

And at least we know who the president is now.

Yes.

You know, it was.

We know who the president is now.

We know that there are two genders now.

I mean, it's President Trump said it yesterday.

We're back to common sense.

So what do you think of the

the press,

just their survival rate?

I was watching CNN

last night because they weren't carrying Fox.

I know they weren't carrying Fox

and I had nothing else.

But I'm watching them and it's almost as if they're insane.

I mean, they are so riddled with...

derangement

and their hypnosis of themselves.

They just didn't make any sense at at all.

It was so crazy to watch.

But the rest of the world is watching, you know,

and they're seeing

glimpses what they're allowed to see.

How does the mainstream media survive this period?

Because they're not going to learn.

They're not going to learn, Glenn.

I mean, you look at how Americans are tuning them out.

You look at some of the top talent at these networks that are having to, you know, either take a massive cut in their salary or end up exiting and going out on their own, it's going to be really tough.

And you'd think common sense would say, oh, for the last four years, they had no access.

They didn't get any transparency.

They had nothing from this administration.

Now, you've got a president that's ready to speak directly to you,

ask all the questions you want.

He's ready to go in the lion's den with any network.

So you would think they'd be grateful because not only do they have that access, but it's great for the ratings when Trump is on.

But I don't see them changing.

I don't see them obviously reporting the truth, aligning with

the vision that President Trump has had and reporting on it accurately.

So I think we are going to see the shift more toward the podcast space, more toward the work like you do, because Americans are fed up with it.

There was a poll out in December from AP that two-thirds of Americans had to tune out the media.

They were tired of politics and news because, again, it was all lies.

And after that election, they said, wow, wow, we were misled for how long?

And the only time they actually changed their minds is when somebody actually who they used to love signs up and says, you know what, I'm going to stand with Donald Trump.

Then

that changes them overnight.

They hate those people.

What do you think about all of these people that are playing

kissy butt with Donald Trump that are all these executives, Bezos,

Zuckerberg, everybody else?

I mean,

I'd just like to hear your opinion first.

I don't trust them, Glenn.

I don't trust them.

I hate to say that.

You know, I know the president obviously has good judgment.

He's got a great team around him.

But I really have a lot of concerns seeing some of these individuals, knowing the things that they've said, the actions they've taken in the past, and suddenly because they're backed in a corner, they're supporters, they're fans of President Trump.

I know.

The American people don't buy that.

Yeah, good.

I hope he doesn't buy that, nor does anybody else always remember their rattlesnakes.

They've just tucked their fangs back for a while, but they will strike again given a a chance.

Exactly.

I hope we remember that.

Thank you so much, Jen.

Thank you, Glenn.

Pleasure.

Great to see you.

Good work here.

Really good work.

Thank you so much.

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