Biden's Farewell Address, Rewritten By Glenn Beck | Guests: Jonathan Pageau & Gordon Chang | 1/16/25
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Oh, hello, America.
Do we live in a parallel universe?
Could be.
Did you see President Biden's farewell address last night?
That came from a parallel universe.
I thought we slipped through a wormhole.
What's happening today is bizarre and exciting.
We're just a few days away.
We're just four days away from the fundamental transformation of the United States of America and Donald Trump.
But there's some warnings coming from our government.
We have that.
And
I had Michael Schellenberger on last night.
And it, whoa, whoa, whoa, what an interesting conversation.
He is one of,
I think, the most trustworthy sources out there because he doesn't go looking for his answers.
He goes looking for the answer.
And he won't say things that he doesn't know for sure.
And I started asking him about the drones.
And I said, what do you think?
Are we going to find out the truth on these?
What are these?
And he said, I can't tell you what they are, but he said, I will be shocked if there ares and i said china i would be shocked even more if it was china i'm like
okay we're narrowing things down
and i said outer space and he said i don't think outer space
well i'm out at that point
but he wasn't and there's some breaking news coming later today and tomorrow that uh is groundbreaking on this
uh
I'm doing an interview today, a podcast for tonight on the Blaze, with a guy who's an icon carver.
And
there's a lot of, I know this sounds weird, there's a lot of lost information in icons.
And we're in a spiritual age.
We're going to talk to him for just a few minutes.
He's sitting in an airport.
He's coming in from Montreal and he's halfway here.
So we're going to talk to him in just a second.
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So Jonathan Peigot is with us.
Yes, he's French, but he's French-Canadian, so it lessens the blow a little bit.
He's with us now.
He is an icon carver.
You can find it at PeigotCarvings.com.
He also writes a lot, orthodoxartsjournal.org.
And he speaks on the symbolic world,
the symbolicworld.com.
And that's what I want to talk to him about.
I want to talk to him about, you know, there's a lot of things.
I love
icons and
carvings.
You know, Thomas Jefferson said, if you really want to embed the truth, you want people to remember who your society was, embed it in your architecture.
And there's a lot of lost meaning in icons.
And I was talking about this today with one of my researchers, and she said, you know, Jonathan's probably going to be able to talk about this.
And I don't know how he's going to talk about this, but I wanted to get him on first thing
as he's in the airport traveling here for the full show later today.
Jonathan, welcome to the program.
It's good to meet you.
It's nice to meet you.
I can't wait to meet you in person.
So we were talking about, I had a conversation with Michael Schellenberger.
Do you know who he is?
Yes.
Yeah.
So Michael Schellenberger, last night, I asked him about the
UFOs or the UAPs,
the flying disc, whatever they are
all over America and the world.
And I said, what do you think those are?
And he said, well, I'll be surprised if they're China.
And I said, wow, okay.
And he said,
I'd be shocked if they were ours.
And I said, well, we're narrowing it down here, Michael.
Where are you going?
And he said, and I don't think they came from outer space.
I said, okay, I'm out of options.
And he said, well, I don't know.
He said, but the most logical is some sort of other dimensional being.
And he said, that could be spiritual.
That could be.
scientific going into the, you know, a fourth dimension.
And I went down a rabbit hole last night at two o'clock in the morning just looking at all this stuff and
I mean we're in for something huge if that's what it is game-changing do you have any comments on this
well I think the first thing to say if in terms of meaning like the thing that would that I'm interested in is really symbolic structures and symbolic meaning the first thing to understand is that this is an unidentified phenomenon that's really important that is we don't know what it is there's a category for that right So we're trying to guess, we're trying to understand.
It's something like the category of stranger, right?
That is, because it's like an alien influence, we use that word alien as well.
And so no matter where it comes from, at this moment, it's playing an alien influence on us.
That is, it's acting on us in a way that it's making us trying to understand what their intentions are, what exactly is the reason for this happening, why it doesn't fit in our normal meaning structure.
And that in some ways is really important.
It's like a monster, right?
You encounter a monster.
You don't know what that is.
You have no idea, a sphinx or something like that.
And that is the role that a lot of these stories are playing, the alien, the extraterrestrial, the unidentified object, unidentified flying object.
And so people try to connect it with all these other stories that we encounter.
And so of course people are going to have religious interpretations of it.
They also are going to have kind of scientific inquiries about it.
And the only thing we can do is try to figure once we figure out what they are, then they won't be that.
They won't be alien anymore.
They won't be unidentified.
And we'll be able to know how to deal with them.
But until
we have an idea of what they are, now we're dealing with the problem of something that's like a monster, that's like a hybrid monster that you don't know what it means.
So, you know, that's the way that I see it.
You know, I was thinking today,
I got up after a fitful few hours of sleep.
And
I thought, this is Nietzsche.
We have destroyed God.
And we, you know, so many no longer believe in God.
They believe science is God, man is God, whatever.
And we are looking at making things.
For instance, Abigail Schreiber says, you know, there's now this thing that is not part of you, but lives outside of you and inside of you that might tell you that you're a different gender.
Well, that sounds like a soul that's misinformed.
And so it's, so it seems as though we are creating or recreating a religion in our society.
That's exactly right.
And for sure, the extraterrestrial and the unidentified flying orb lights are a way to kind of re-inscribe religious stories and religious imagery into our world with a scientific lens.
And so, and often the problem, I think, and that's why I focused on meaning before, that the problem is that we're so focused on understanding what these phenomenas are in terms of, you know, what is their physical mechanical cause is.
And we are not trying to figure out what they're doing in terms of the way we perceive ourselves and the way we perceive our place in the cosmos.
And so, and that's what, that's the biggest thing.
AI, all of these questions, people are always asking the technical question, but very few people are asking.
What does it mean for us to be dealing with these types of intelligences that are kind of poking their nose back into the world right now?
So what would happen to us?
I mean, my faith would be fine, but what would happen to us if we did find that we weren't alone in the universe?
Well, you know, you could ask the question in all kinds of ways.
What happened when we discovered that there was a whole continent that we didn't know about and that there were cultures that nobody has ever talked about and no one has ever dealt with?
The situation would be the same.
It would be catastrophic in some ways.
It would lead to the end of a world.
It would lead to mass transformation, but it wouldn't change the basic structure of what meaning is and what spirituality is,
when we talk about God, what we're talking about.
In some ways, it would be a big clash, like the Colombian clash, you could say, but
it wouldn't destroy religion at all.
I don't see why it even affects that.
Right.
You know, in looking at icons
that have happened all over the world, you see a lot of the same kind of icons on different continents that
look to be
like
some sort of alien or something that's coming from the sky.
You see the huge icons that can really only be viewed from up above and made at a time when nobody was up above.
What do you make of those?
Well, I think that the idea of something that comes down from heaven is definitely definitely a, you know, it's a universal image.
It's a universal structure.
It has to do with how light is up in the heavens.
It has to do with how the stars are like a big clock that, you know, structure our world.
And that's really important to understand.
Now, we have to be careful and not confuse that with
the kind of scientific
worldview that we live in right now.
And so there's a kind of inversion that happened at some point during the Copernican Revolution where now, you know, how can I say this?
It used to be that the earth was the place in which we stood and we look at the heavens to kind of give us meaning.
But now we've changed that.
You know,
the heavens are as physical and as mechanical as our bodies.
And so
they're not the spiritual thing.
They're not the pattern that helps us, at least when you see it from the scientific point of view.
The sun still gives us meaning.
You know, it still casts light on your day.
It still basically structures your entire existence because it comes comes up in the morning it goes in the evening you wake up you go to sleep but we have to be careful not to confuse science fiction with spirituality and I think that that's a big danger and what do you mean by that
well what I mean is you know the idea for example that there are alien beings outside in the world is far more similar to the ancient story of what we call the mariner's tale right or something like going and discovering a new continent in america so when we do that well now outer outer space has become something like the ocean, or you see that in Star Trek, the ocean that you go out and then you explore and you find these new worlds and you find these new beings that you had never seen before.
And that's very different from, let's say, a spiritual hierarchy of gods or of angels that are qualitatively different from us, you know, and that are in some ways the beings that provide meaning to smaller beings, you know, like angels are messengers from higher meaning down into us.
And so it's it would what the reason why i say that is because there will be a great temptation to confuse, if we encounter aliens like extraterrestrial beings, there will be a great temptation to confuse those with the idea of angels or of gods.
And we already see people talking about it that way, you know, like as if they have this idea that, you know, the ancient stories of gods and of angels were just extraterrestrials visiting correct.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you also, I mean, I'll get into this with you later when you come in, but the idea of a golem.
I think we're about to enter the word world of a new golem with AI.
And the old story of golem is like, it's unbelievable.
It matches today what we're going through.
Well, we definitely, I think that humans have had intuition about the notion of artificial life and artificial beings for a very long time.
Right.
And for sure, the story of the golem is a great warning.
about how when we try to manipulate intelligence, we try to capture it in physical terms, how it can turn against us.
There's also that image in revelation of the beast, the statue that speaks.
It's like if we make this creation of ours speak, then everybody is
surprised and can be deluded by it.
Yeah.
I'm anxious to talk to you.
I can't wait.
Have a safe flight here, Jonathan.
We'll talk to you in a little while.
All right, thanks, babe.
All right, bye-bye.
Jonathan Pegeot,
he is going to be on the podcast tonight.
He's also going to be on a plane in about 10 seconds.
He is.
It is.
You know, it's weird because do you remember the book we talked about years ago called Hitler's Monsters?
Oh, yeah.
We're repeating that right now.
We are beginning to enter this world where
perverse spirituality is starting to take hold.
People are looking for meaning and things.
There's a bright light that is happening.
I think we're at the very beginning of a new great awakening.
But at the same time,
I mean, it just really freaked me out with Michael Schellenberger yesterday because
he's not a guy to, he just doesn't, he doesn't exaggerate.
He doesn't chime in on things that he's not sure of.
And he made it very clear, I'm not sure.
But he's like, if I had to place my money, I wouldn't place it on China or America, that this is Earth technology.
or technology that mankind has.
Gosh, that's unbelievable.
That's unbelievable.
I even know what to think about that.
I know.
That's
bizarre.
I know.
But I guess those are the times we're in.
Good.
Good.
Good.
We got that going for it.
Repeating Hitler's monsters.
Great.
Yeah, great.
Great.
We needed a sequel.
Yeah.
Well,
we didn't know the first time.
I mean, Nietzsche warned us, but we didn't have...
I mean, we can figure this out this time.
And I think God gave us a break.
I think it's going to be a quick break, really quick break.
But he did give us a break to catch our breath and say, okay, wait, wait, wait, what's really going on?
It's going to be...
Everything.
Everything should end with this every day.
It's going to be interesting to see how we navigate this.
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So you want to go on a rabbit trail down a rabbit hole?
Just Google some of the things that Michael Schellenberger and I were talking about last night on the show.
Here he is when I said,
are these drones from a foreign power?
Now, we had about a 20-minute conversation after the show,
but here's what he said during the show.
The UAP thing, what do you think the worst case is that it's an alien life form that we're not really sure of, or that it's China?
I mean, the best thing is we can find out that it's us.
Okay, good.
Fine.
Why you lied to us, I don't know, but fine.
I mean, I'm skeptical that it's a foreign power.
I just think it's too aggressive.
I mean, when China threatens us, it's in the South China Sea.
You know, we haven't caught a single one of these drones, which suggests that it's anomalous, certainly unidentified.
I don't think I can't see Iran having this technology.
It does appear to be behaving like other UAPs.
And so
I'm skeptical that it's a foreign power.
It could be the United States government, but then we would have really advanced technology.
There's like, you know, 1947 National Security Act,
the Fourth Amendment.
There's plenty of things.
It would be illegal to be conducting a UAP experiment on the American people.
So, yeah, look, I mean,
I'm still a person of faith.
I still have my faith.
I
don't imagine that somebody's going to say something that will undermine that.
But obviously, there's some concern that if they are NHI, if they're non-human, then there's some sense in which people won't be able to handle it.
You know, we're grown-ups.
We were able to handle the reality the earth revolves around the sun.
I think we can handle the fact if that is what it is, and we don't know, but if that is what it is, we deserve to know.
Yeah, it's our constitutional right to know.
Michael, it's going to be an interesting year.
Let me ask you, because I asked him, I said, Trump is saying that he's going to come out with what it is on Tuesday.
And he seems very nonchalant about it.
And he said, yeah, that's the one thing I can't figure out.
He said, if he does know,
you know, it's either the United States breaking the law, or it's China telling us don't even think about Taiwan,
or it's, you know, non-human.
And all three of those are disturbing.
And he said, Trump is just taking this very casually.
But I'm not sure if Donald Trump knows yet as the president.
He says he does, but does he?
I don't know.
And if it is, are we going to get the truth?
I think so.
The way Donald Trump is going to really
solidify a bigger base is to just come out with all the facts on everything.
Just say them.
Here they are.
Here are the documents.
Here's what it is.
And I think people will actually appreciate that now.
I mean, I don't know.
If there is some weird interdimensional alien force coming down here, it would explain the Tim Walls pick.
It would explain him as an individual.
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So yesterday in the hearings, it went really, really well.
Pam Bondi was great.
I honestly don't know how these people
stand it, you know,
when they're like, are you going to live within the law?
Are you going to show up and make sure that people show up if they have been
subpoenaed by Congress?
Are you kidding me?
I was just waiting for Pambandi.
I mean,
I want one of them to just do this.
Just sit there at the desk.
And then, when they ask a question about what you're going to do, and do you find that to be remarkably un-American?
Then just sit there and hold up a mirror.
I don't know.
Why don't you ask that guy?
You know what I mean?
It's like that'd be a fun moment.
Oh my gosh,
the exchanges that they had yesterday.
The temptation to be snarky and sarcastic and yell at them must be incredibly intense for these people.
But you can't do that.
You have to do the opposite.
You have to sit there and take all the questions and ask them as if you think they're actual honest questions.
Answer them as if you think they're actually honest questions.
It's got to be torture.
Let me just, I mean, this was torture maybe for Adam Schiff,
not for you.
So let me play cut four.
Here's Pam Bonnie with Adam Schiff.
Has called for it publicly.
You are aware of that, aren't you?
No one has asked me to investigate.
But the president has
the president has called it.
You know what we should be worried about?
Ms.
Bonnie, please answer my question.
We are aware of the roof.
Ms.
Bonnie, your robberies are 87% higher than the national average.
That's what I'm asking.
My question is.
Do you have the power to say no to the president?
And what you're suggesting today by your non-answer is you don't have the independence to say no to the president.
So let me ask you a different question.
It also requires you, if you're going to be a good attorney general, to be able to tell hard truths to the president.
So my questions now are can you tell hard truths to the president?
So let me start with an easy truth that you could speak to the president.
Can you tell us, can you tell him that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election?
Can you say that?
You have the independence to say that.
You have the gravitas, the stature, the testimonial fortitude to say, Donald Trump, you lost the 2020 election.
Can you tell us that here today?
Senator, what I can tell you is I will never play politics.
You're trying to engage me in a gotcha.
I will
ask you
to
speak truth with any ongoing power.
So let me ask you another question.
Like you did leaking your colleague Devin Nunes's memo.
If you want to review hundreds of cases on day one,
I will will look at every file.
I am asking.
Of course you won't.
So will you advise the president?
Can I answer the question?
Well, my question is.
I would have plenty of staff.
You said, of course, you want.
You'll be able to review.
I'm not going to mislead this body nor you.
All right, let me ask another question.
You don't want to ask that?
Let me ask you.
You were censured by Congress, Senator, for comments just like this that are so relevant.
Oh, my.
Yeah, I don't think they're going to just lay down and take it.
I just don't think this administration, with the people that we've seen, do you hear Marco Rubio yesterday?
Marco Rubio was also like, what the cut three, Marco Rubio.
If we stay on the road we're on right now, in less than 10 years, virtually everything that matters to us in life will depend on whether China will allow us to have it or not.
Everything from the blood pressure medicine we take, to what movies we get to watch, and everything in between, we will depend on China for it.
They have come to dominate the critical mineral industry
supplies throughout the world.
Everywhere in the world, they've now established critical mineral rights.
Even those who want to see more electric cars, no matter where you make them, those batteries are almost entirely dependent on the ability of the Chinese and the willingness of the Chinese Communist Party to produce it and export it to you.
So, if we don't change course, we are going to live in a world where much of what matters to us on a daily basis, from our security to our health, will be dependent on whether the Chinese allow us to have it or not.
That's an unacceptable outcome.
outcome.
Mike dropped.
Look at the difference between what he just said and what our State Department's been saying about China.
We've been pussyfooting around, and there's just no more pussyfooting.
It's just, it's not going to happen.
Yeah, no, it's true.
And, you know, you like to see the pushback.
You'd like to see someone taking an actually strong stand that seems like it aligns with common sense, which I would argue both of those people were.
I mean, Bondi, in particular, that exchange with Adam Schiff is a really good reminder.
We talked about this yesterday.
Will California wake up?
They just elected Adam Schiff to the Senate.
I know.
So you want to talk about if it,
I don't know if anything can change that state.
Maybe it's these horrible tragedies, but they're months away from putting Adam Schiff in the Senate.
That is a remarkable transformation if they can make it.
Yeah, but we're four days away from this.
So
I'm just saying the world can change quickly.
It can.
It does seem to be, at least at some level.
I just, it's a heavy lift in California.
So
let's talk about this deal in the Middle East.
Here is, and remember, the State Department is...
is ground zero for
everything bad in the world.
I mean,
honestly, I think Marco Rubio should go in and he should fire everyone on the seventh floor, maybe the sixth.
Just fire them all.
You're all gone.
I don't care if you're, some of you are good.
I don't have time to sort it out.
You're all gone.
Because it has been out of control since really
FDR.
And they think that they're in charge of the world.
And it is.
It is the State Department that has brought us these endless wars and everything else.
They got to go.
They all have to go.
So with that in mind, listen to the State Department spokesperson on the Hamas deal.
Listen to this.
When it comes to the involvement of President-elect Trump's team, it has been absolutely critical in getting this deal over the line.
And it's been critical because obviously, as I stand here today, this administration's term in office will expire in five days.
And one of the things that we have always said about this deal is that when you get from stage one to stage two, that the United States, Egypt, and Qatar are the guarantors of this deal.
And Egypt and Qatar will push Hamas to stay at the bargaining table and to get from stage one to stage two.
And the United States will push Israel to stay at the bargaining table to get from phase one and phase two.
So obviously, those are promises we cannot make on behalf of the United States for any longer than the next five days.
And so it's critical that all of the parties to the agreement and the other mediators see that when the United States is in the room making commitments, those are lasting commitments that extend beyond this administration into the next one.
Okay, so stop.
They're long-standing commitments.
They will go long past the five days.
Well, they didn't even make it to day two.
Overnight, this deal has started to fall apart.
And it started to fall apart with Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israelis.
Okay.
Well, wait.
I thought that's the critical role that Donald Trump was playing.
That's what he just said.
We can bring Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel to the table.
Well, Benjamin Netanyahu did not go to the table
under Biden, didn't come to the table.
No, Hamas didn't come to the table because of Biden.
This is all happened because Donald Trump said this.
Cut one.
I think they heard him loud and clear.
Better get done by the inaugural.
But when you say all hell must be paid
up.
All hell must be paid if they don't release the hostages, don't you?
Do I have to define it for you?
Look, all hell will break out.
If those hostages aren't back, I don't want to hurt your negotiation.
If they're not back by the time I get into office, all hell will break out in the Middle East.
And it will not be good for Hamas.
Okay.
So, wait, how is Donald Trump responsible for a deal that looks like it's really good for Hamas and not good for Israel?
All hell will break loose.
This is the only reason why they're talking.
And Joe Biden, eager to make a deal, made a deal that's good for Hamas, not Israel.
So that's falling apart right now.
The deal's falling apart already?
Yeah.
It fell apart overnight.
Looks like
it's not holding.
Well, because I mean, it is, obviously, has some good in it for Israel and potentially America, right?
With potentially American hostages released.
But potentially, we don't know.
But it's something like 33
for 1,000 or something of that.
As always with these deals, it heavily favors Hamas in the power of the city.
And
power,
all kinds of things that are bad for Israel.
It is not, it does not end the war, though, right?
It is a
ceasefire.
Okay.
That's important.
So, yeah, that's important.
So, Donald Trump is the reason why something will happen.
Okay.
Biden has not been able to make a deal, get them at the table.
He can make a deal now, but it's a Biden deal, a bad deal.
He can make that deal with them right now because they all know
daddy's coming home.
We better stop our bickering because daddy's going to solve it.
And I'm not sure we're going to like the solution coming from daddy.
So they try to get into a deal.
Notice if the Israelis are the ones pulling out, you don't think Benjamin Netanyahu is just springing that on Donald Trump.
He's not just like, Donald Trump's not getting up today going, wait, the deal fell apart.
Benjamin Netanyahu and and the Israeli Knesset don't want to deal with it.
What happened?
Uh-uh.
They were on the phone with him.
So he knows that.
This is, no matter what the White House tries to do and rope him in, this is not his deal.
It's moving because of him, but that's all.
And I take him seriously when he says, I mean, let's talk about this in a week.
Let's talk about this next Friday.
Where will this story be next Friday?
Because I don't think it will be here.
You'll notice he said, make a deal before I even get into office.
There's going to be a lot of talk with Hamas on what exactly they have to do and what the ramifications are.
Because I would not put it past Donald Trump by
Monday evening,
drones to be flying over Hamas.
He will release hell on them.
He is a guy that keeps his word because he knows if I don't,
then I'm known as somebody who just bluffs and I am not going to do that because that puts the United States into real trouble.
And he's been real clear on this over and over and over again.
Hell will be paid
if you don't don't release the hostages by the time I'm in office.
So we'll see exactly what is coming on.
By the way, we have
we're going to talk about China and what's going on with China
because there's some
there's some interesting things going on with China.
Is China preparing for war?
Is China falling apart?
What is the truth?
Gordon Chang is going to be with us.
China, he says, is going to war and the Panama Canal could trigger that war.
It's really important to understand the Panama Canal, especially since Donald Trump is getting in next week.
What does it mean?
Gordon Chang is going to be talking about that here in just a few minutes first.
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I've followed for a very very long time, and we don't always agree on everything.
He has said for a long time that
China is going to fold.
It's on the economic edge, and it is on the economic edge.
But when you're on the economic edge, sometimes
you are backed into a corner, and an animal backed into a corner is never good.
I'm having him on because he's now saying that China could take down.
In fact, he said, if I quote, they're going to take down our grid.
They're going to take down everything we have.
We are going to be like an 1850s country without the things that we've been accustomed to,
all of the things that operate in our country.
I don't know, that sounds pretty dire.
He also said what happened to the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore is going to happen to the Panama Canal.
He says
that
that is strategic to them and will be the start of the next world war.
Will it start in the Panama Canal was the name of his article for Newsweek.
People are not paying attention to the Panama Canal.
Over the summer, the president said to me, and I didn't know anything about the Panama Canal, and he said to me, you know, the real crisis, the real choke point is the Panama Canal.
And I said,
oh, yeah.
I said, really?
And he said, yeah, do your homework on the Panama Canal.
That's going to play a very important role in 2025.
He said that to me months ago.
And I started looking into it, and I'm like, he's right.
He's right.
I mean, he is way ahead.
They have positioned companies, and companies are all part, especially in wartime, they become representatives of the Communist
Chinese Party and military.
And
they have, their companies run both the mouth and the exit, if you will, of the Panama Canal.
And they have companies all the way along.
They could take that thing quickly if they wanted to.
What do we do about it?
I don't know.
How much of a threat is it?
I don't know.
Gordon Chang says a big threat.
But he is also on record saying they're so close to collapse.
So
which is it?
Are they stronger than we think or are they
a tiger backed into a corner, ready to do something to galvanize their society, which is what I think.
They need some sort of nationalistic movement because their society is starting to revolt against the Chinese Communist Party.
We'll talk about that.
Gordon Chang, next.
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So I want you to be prepared for some of the things that are going to happen because some of them are going to happen quickly.
First of all, the Israeli Hamas deal has fallen through.
What a surprise.
Donald Trump is the reason why they came to the table, but this is still a Biden deal.
But he was very, very, very clear.
This has to be done before I get into office.
If those hostages aren't returned by the time I get into office, there'll be hell to pay.
And he is a guy who makes promises.
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One of the things he told me over the summer before he was elected, he said, Glenn, I have to tell you, one of the places you really have to keep your eye on is the Panama Canal.
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Now, Gordon Chang,
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And turns out, he's right.
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Gordon, welcome to the program.
How are you?
I'm fine.
Thanks, Glenn, and thank you so much.
Yeah,
I've wanted to talk to you about the Panama Canal.
There's a lot of things I want to talk to you about with China.
You know, you have been saying for a long time China is a paper tiger.
They've got, you know, the real problems with their economy, which has proven to be absolutely right.
They're in real trouble, which kind of makes me nervous because when somebody is backed into a corner and because of their economy, they're starting to have uprisings, or at least people vocalizing that we're not with everything that China is doing.
They're going broke.
They're losing all of the money they've put towards housing, et cetera, et cetera.
They need some sort of a nationalistic kind of move
to galvanize the population behind the party.
At least that's the way I look at it.
Do you think that's accurate?
And what is coming?
Xi Jinping clearly needs a war.
And the reason is that he is being held responsible for China's simultaneous crises, which is not just a crumbling economy, but it's also, as you point out, plunging property prices.
That's really important because 70% of the wealth of the Chinese middle class is in property, and they're losing double digits every year.
But you go through the list of all the problems, and Xi knows that the only way out for him is a misadventure abroad.
And I think he wants it for one primary reason.
And that is, if he has a war, he prevents other Communist Party leaders from challenging him and deposing him, because he knows that they can't move against him in a warlike situation.
With the Chinese people, I suppose he wants to galvanize them, but we've got to remember that the Chinese people right now are really unhappy.
They don't want a war.
They just want peace and prosperity.
They know the Communist Party is responsible for taking away those two things.
And they're not very happy right now.
So a couple of weeks ago, I did a show on what
I thought might happen in 2025.
And one of them was China's going to war.
But I thought it would be something that was not the Panama Canal.
It would be something where we wouldn't get involved, but
it would help them and their people.
So they would go into one of the countries around them and just take it and go to war.
Do you think that's likely, or more likely it's going to be something big?
Well, right now, we've got proxy wars that China is waging in Ukraine, North Africa, and in the Middle East, in Israel.
So one more war looks like global conflict, World War III.
So anything can happen, Glenn, and so we have to be prepared for anything, at any place at any time.
I think that Xi Jinping is going to stumble into a war someplace in East Asia.
South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, something like that.
But the first sign that we will have of a war could be an incident in the Panama Canal because the Chinese want to prevent the U.S.
Navy from taking ships and submarines from the Atlantic Fleet to the Pacific Fleet.
So we may know about this first, and this war may start in our own hemisphere.
And you've written that you think that an
quote-unquote accident, something like what happened at the Francis Scott Key Bridge, where something just goes wrong with a ship and then just destroys the Panama Canal for at least a few days.
Is that what you think how it would begin?
Yes.
There are any number of ways for China to do that.
So, for instance, they could take a ship, they could ram one of the locks, they could scuttle it in the Calibra Cut, which is a narrow portion of the canal.
They could also take down a bridge.
They're building the fourth bridge over the canal.
They can design that bridge to come down easily, or they could construct it so that it falls apart.
These are things that we've got to be worried about because the Chinese have a thorough knowledge of, and they've penetrated Panama, so they know what to do.
You know, one thing that we learned in New Orleans on New Year's Day, and that is when you have a determined adversary who knows a lot about the territory, the place is crowded, it's very difficult to prevent a terrorist act.
It's the same thing with the Panama Canal.
The Chinese are there, they've thoroughly penetrated everything, they know what to do.
Yes, we can think about contingencies, but the Chinese will be one step ahead of us.
So explain to people, because China says they're not there, but there's, what is it, CK
Hutchinson or something like that, a company that that was from Hong Kong, has been there for a long time, and they're saying that, no, that's not the Chinese.
Explain what they actually have in assets there.
They have, well, you talk about Hutchison.
They've got ports at both ends of the canal, at Balboa on the Pacific end and San Cristobal on the Atlantic side.
But they've also got Chinese state enterprises there.
When Laura Richardson, who was
head of U.S.
Southern Command in the middle of 2022, she flew over the canal and she pointed out all of the Chinese civilian, quote-unquote, operations.
She said they were dual use.
They would be turned into military facilities at a time of war.
Now, Hutchison is a private Hong Kong company, but the point is, in the People's Republic, no company, regardless of ownership, can disobey an order of the Communist Party.
So Hutchison port operations in the Panama Canal Zone will be military bases, as will other Chinese facilities in the area.
So what does Donald Trump, I mean, when he told me this and I started looking into the Panama Canal, he told me this months ago and he said, do your homework.
And I did.
And
I saw him as
somebody who actually knows what's going on and cares about the country and was way ahead.
What does he have to do?
Because people are poo-pooing everything he's saying about the Panama.
Oh, he wants a war in Panama.
No, he doesn't.
He just doesn't want that canal to block everything we need in case there is a war.
What does he have to do?
It's going to be very difficult, but I'm sure Trump can do it.
And one of the things is we've got to make sure that China doesn't have port operations in the canal zone, which means Panama expropriating them.
That means we need to have American businesses who are willing to take it over.
Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
How do they do that?
Didn't they just sign a big contract?
They renewed for 25 years the franchise for both of those port operations.
But a country can expropriate.
They can void contracts.
We can do it.
China can do it.
Any country has a sovereign right to do it.
So does Panama.
And we've got to convince Panama that it is in their interest to do that.
So we've got to get the Chinese businesses out of the canal zone.
Not easy.
It's going to take a lot of effort.
But when you know what the problem is and you're determined to protect the United States, you can do it.
The other thing, and this is last resort, and that is that when we turned over the Panama Canal to Panama, there were two treaties.
One of them is called the Neutrality Treaty, which is the treaty that survives, still in existence.
We believe the United States, when we ratified that, we had a reservation that allowed the U.S.
military to move into the canal zone to protect it from a third country.
So that is our ultimate card.
Panama won't like that, but there's nothing they can do about it.
So clearly, we've got a lot of cards to play, but hopefully we don't have to use that one.
Right.
We wouldn't necessarily use that if we convince Panama,
cancel those leases.
Right?
Absolutely.
And we've got to make sure that American businesses are interested and alive to the possibilities of actually doing business and making profits in places like Central America, South America, Africa.
American businesses have, I think, made poor business decisions in allowing those regions to be taken over by the Chinese.
We have a strong diplomatic presence in Latin America.
These are things that we need to do.
And by the way, it's also the Caribbean.
Just to give you an example, talking about port operations, China has a port operation 87 miles east of Palm Beach, Florida.
That's in Freeport in the Bahamas.
That container port could be turned into a naval base in an instant.
So we really need to make sure that we look at all of these Chinese port operations in our hemisphere.
They've got 40 of them, Glenn.
40.
I will tell you, Gordon, I look at what's happening, and again, I credit Donald Trump for bringing attention to this
in a global sort of way.
It feels as though we are possibly headed towards a kind of a Cuban missile crisis moment.
Well, funny you mentioned that because in Cuba, China has taken over the Soviet listening posts, and China has at least.
Oh, we lost him.
Hello.
Let's get him back on.
Let me take a quick one-minute break.
Be back in just a second with more with Gordon Cheng.
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Station ID.
So, Gordon, we lost you a minute ago.
You were talking about the listening post
of that former Soviet that now has gone to China in Cuba.
Yes, and there's also a base that China is building.
They say it's a training facility, but it's probably going to be turned into a full military base.
And China could easily bring missiles into Cuba.
Because they know what happened the first time.
Okay, hang on just a second.
Hang on.
Let's disconnect with Gordon.
Try to get one more chance at this line.
You know what the problem is?
Chinese technology on these phone lines.
No, that's all American.
We did it.
We stopped them from doing it.
So it's good old American.
It is you know, we haven't even talked about the drones yet.
I don't know what his approach on the drones is, but some people think that is China saying to America,
don't even try to stop us.
We're going to be making some moves here, and don't even try to stop us.
You know, we didn't bring a single one down.
I'm not sure we could have brought a single one of the actual concerning drones.
You know, some of them were, you know, drones that you could buy and we know about.
But the ones that are uh operating differently, we didn't bring a single one down.
I don't even know if we tried though.
Uh Gordon, are you there?
I'm here.
Okay, good, good, good.
Okay, so you were talking about now maybe China could move missiles into Cuba.
Yes, because, you know, the Soviets did it.
The Chinese could easily do it.
They don't really respect the United States.
They certainly haven't during the Biden administration.
Hopefully under Trump, they would have second thoughts.
But right now, Xi Jinping is extremely arrogant.
And as you pointed out in the beginning, he is desperate.
So I was talking to Donald Trump.
This must have been, I don't know, about a year ago.
And he said,
you know, I was meeting with Xi Jinping when he was president last time.
And he said, we were having dinner at Mar-a-Lago the day they killed the
Solomani.
And he said,
I had him at dinner, and I planned it so I could walk away and and say, Excuse me, I have to take care of something.
He said, Then I came back after we killed Soleimani, and he said, Yeah, I just sorry, we just had to kill General Solimani.
And Xi Jinping was, you know, kind of taken back by that.
And he said, Yeah, you know, just got to take care of business.
And then they started talking.
And Donald Trump, they were talking about something.
And he said, You don't ever want to do that.
Just don't even think about it.
Xi Jinping, because I will, you know, I can make Beijing disappear.
And he said
he laughed, the Chinese president laughed and then kind of stopped laughing.
And Donald Trump just smiled at him and left him
with the thought, gosh, this guy might just do that.
I'm not sure if he was joking or not.
I mean, he plays hardball.
Do they respect him?
I think they do.
And the tone was set in April 2017 when Xi Jinping first met Trump as president.
And that's when at Mar-a-Lago, where you have Trump standing up at dinner and saying he had just launched 59 missiles at Syria, which happens to be a Chinese friend.
And Xi Jinping was flummoxed.
So that's another story of Donald Trump playing power politics.
And it worked.
Because Xi Jinping was relatively well-behaved during the four years of Trump.
Yes.
He certainly wasn't well-behaved during Biden's four years.
I heard a story last night that said that
China didn't talk to the United States for several months after we blew their balloon out of the sky.
And I'm like,
we should have been the ones pissed, not them.
What's that all about?
You know, and that's an important point because the State Department, after we shot the balloon as it crossed into the Atlantic, desperately tried to reestablish communications with China.
And that's wrong.
I mean, American diplomats have been doing that for decades, and it's not produced good results for us.
You know, we should make the Chinese come to us and beg for discussion.
We shouldn't be going to the Chinese and saying, we want to talk to you, because that's all wrong, because the Chinese are doing, engaged in very bad behavior, and then we end up looking craven.
I've got to, I hate to do this to you now.
We've lost you so many times, but I've got to take a break here in a second.
But I want to come back and talk to you about the drones and what you think those are.
I was talking to somebody the other day and they said, well, they think this is China warning the Americans that we're going to take Taiwan or whatever it is and don't mess with us.
But I think that almost defies logic that they would be that far ahead of the United States.
Why would you be stealing our
plans for our
military jets if you can do that?
Does that make sense to you?
Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
The drones are a little bit complicated because there are a lot of different drones and there are different explanations for each set of them.
Okay.
All right.
So let's come back to that.
If you can hang on just a second, we'll come back with Gordon Chang.
He has a book that is out now, China is going to war.
I think he's right.
There's something we,
you know, we all think, well, China doesn't want war.
Yet, I think they're backed into a corner and I think they do want war.
Xi Jinping needs it to survive.
Gordon Chang.
More in a minute.
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It is Ashley Moody.
She's the Florida Attorney General.
She is fantastic.
I have met her.
I think she's really, really strong.
You know, he's talking about immigration, cash crunch, getting rid of the money printing, downsizing the government, abolishing departments in the national government and restore constitutional order.
And he says she is the one to do it.
I've got to go back and look at my notes on her.
But I met her probably a year ago uh because i was concerned who's going to replace you
the governor de santis and he said i'd like you to meet our attorney general uh she's really interesting yeah yeah yeah so gordon chang is with us uh he is the author of china is going to war uh you can follow him on twitter at gordon g chang uh his website is gordonchang.com uh we've been talking about the panama canal and the disorder uh that xi jinping has in his own country,
the unrest that he has, can't happen in a communist country.
That's not good.
But I want to talk to you, Gordon, now about
the drones, because the drones were a big deal
before the holiday, and now all of a sudden just nobody's talking about it.
And I think it's important that we paid attention to those drones.
What do you think they were, and do you think China was involved?
Well, China is involved in some of the drone incidents, and we know that.
So, for instance, a Chinese national flew a drone through Vandenberg Space Force Base at the time of expected launches.
So that clearly was China.
Also, there have been drone incursions in other military facilities in the U.S.
Some of them were China.
Some of them could only have been China.
In the category of it could only have been in China was Langley Air Force Base, where there was a series of drone incursions.
These These incursions were far too organized to be hobbyists.
The drones were far too large to be hobbyist drones.
China was involved there.
Over my great state of New Jersey,
there have been a lot of drones and I'm sure there are a lot of different explanations for different drones.
But there is one thing the Pentagon and the Biden administration has refused to deal with.
And that is drones entered U.S.
territorial airspace from the Atlantic Ocean.
Those could not have been domestic drones.
The Pentagon said that they were.
I don't think so.
So clearly some foreign power was doing this.
We know that some people in my state think it was Iran.
But if Iran was doing this, Blenn, it had to have been doing it with the approval and the support of China.
Yeah.
Because Iran does not have the capability to do that on its own.
Correct.
So Donald Trump.
says he knows what it is and he doesn't know why the government won't announce what it it is.
It makes sense to me that some of these drones are coming from a foreign power, but it's awfully provocative.
But if you're going to do that, the time to do it is under Biden because
he ran like a little girl after
we shot down the balloon, begging them for forgiveness.
We're so sorry.
We're so sorry.
Excuse me?
It's the kind of, he's the kind of guy that would allow them to cross into our airspace and do whatever reconnaissance they want to do.
That's really bad.
Have we ever done anything like that to China?
No,
certainly not.
We have always tried to encourage China into responsible behavior, even though the Chinese were engaged in extremely bad conduct.
And certainly during the Biden years, he was trying to be as nice as possible to Beijing because he thought that would entice the Chinese into reciprocal good behavior.
But as we know, the Chinese just took advantage of that and saw him as weak, and they pressed the advantage.
What should Trump do if that indeed some of those drones were Chinese?
I mean, that...
That is,
in other times, that would have been almost an act of war, if not an act of war.
You don't do that.
You're violating our airspace and flying over our most sensitive air bases.
Well, it is an act of war, especially in these circumstances.
And I think what Trump should do is to start imposing asymmetrical costs.
Because we don't want to fly a balloon over China, and we don't have the balloons to fly over China, but we don't want to do something like that.
What we want to do is make them hurt.
And the way to do that is what Trump has been already talking about, which are tariffs.
Tariffs would certainly drive the Chinese economy into an even more desperate situation.
I think the Chinese would understand that they cannot continue that.
So there are things that we, all sorts of things that we can do to make sure that China engages in much better behavior towards the United States.
So who is in the driver's seat?
Us or China?
I mean, they're making 80% of all of our
non-name brand drugs.
I mean, that's, we are, we're in trouble if they cut us off.
That's the one area where I worry the most about.
You know, I think that,
you know, if you go back to the last months of the first Trump term, Trump actually had implemented a plan to bring pharmaceutical manufacturing back to the United States.
He had a $750 million loan program to Eastman Kodak to make APIs, active pharmaceutical ingredients.
That plan was executed poorly, but I think that given another term, he would be able to come up with even better ways to deal with this.
And so I think that we can eliminate that vulnerability to China.
We absolutely have to do it, Glenn.
Are we at war with China in the next 12 months?
Your prediction?
I don't think they're going to take Trump on in the next 12 months.
I think they could easily stumble into a war in East Asia.
I hope to God that they won't.
But right now is a time where the Chinese regime is desperate, and Xi Jinping is desperate because he knows that he has probably no way out other than to engage in some sort of hostile behavior towards a neighbor.
Could be Taiwan, but more likely the Philippines.
It's anyone's guess, though, because there are any number of targets that Xi Jinping has already been going after in various ways.
Gordon Chang, thank you very much.
China is Going to War is the name of the book, and you can follow him on Twitter.
His handle is at GordonG Chang.
At Gordon G Chang.
Gordon, as always, thank you very much.
Good to talk to you.
Well, thank you, Glenn.
And I'm so happy you're raising these issues because they're critical to the United States right now.
I know, and I don't think people understand.
You know, it's really weird that the mainstream media is focusing on Donald Trump is going to send troops into Greenland.
No, he's not.
Can you focus on the Panama Canal and China?
that's a real threat not us sending troops into Canada or Greenland it's insane
yeah you know Greenland is a China issue by the way as Giorgio Maloney the Italian prime minister said last week this Greenland talk is all
it's all what
It's all about Beijing.
It's all about China.
Because of the resources there?
Because of the resources there, because China and Russia are cooperating in the Arctic trying to push out the United States and Canada.
It's all about China.
Boy, I really sincerely hope
the press will someday get a clue and start talking about the things that actually matter.
That's the one thing when he started talking about the Panama Canal that I took away from.
And I thought, this guy is actually, he's not talking about paper tigers.
He's not talking about politics.
He's talking about something that actually is important that nobody's paying attention to.
So, Gordon, thank you.
God bless.
Well, thank you, Glenn.
You bet.
Gordon G.
Chang is Twitter handle at
X.
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Still want to play a little game.
I'm going to give you some names.
And you tell me if they are Republican and Democrat.
I want you to keep score.
Okay.
And I also want you to just keep track, and we'll talk about it after, which, how many of them are real conservatives and how many are rhinos?
So I need multiple scorecards here as we do this?
No, you just need Democrat, Republican, and Rhinos.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
So count the Rhinos in the Republicans as well.
Okay.
You got it?
I'll try.
All right.
David Rauser.
Okay.
He's a Republican.
Debbie Schultz.
A Democrat.
Ron Wyden,
Democrat.
Roger Williams,
Republican.
Make sure you remember
if you mark a Republican.
Make sure you mark it.
That's going to be your tougher one.
Morgan McGarvey,
Democrat.
Larry Bouchon,
Republican.
Pete Sessions, Republican.
Susan Collins, Republican.
That has gotten a little easier in the secondary.
David Kustoff, Republican.
Nancy Pelosi.
I'm pretty sure she's independent.
Democrat.
Ann Wagner.
And Wagner is a Republican.
Tom
Suozi.
Democrat.
Dan Crenshaw.
Republican.
Kathy Manning.
Democrat.
Dan Sullivan.
Republican.
Seth Moulton.
Democrat.
Tina Smith.
Democrat.
Mark Garcia.
Well, I got two more names.
Mike Garcia.
Look that one.
Let's see.
Republican.
Brian Donalds.
Byron Donalds?
Yep.
He's definitely Republican.
And John Curtis.
Republican.
A new Republican senator.
How many, what is the total?
So 12 Republicans, eight Democrats, if I counted that right.
Okay.
How many of the Republicans are Republicans in name only?
I mean, it's tough.
I mean, I certainly wouldn't say Byron Donalds is.
I would say Dan Crenshaw is.
Yeah.
I would say
over 50%.
Okay, over 50%.
Yeah.
Okay.
Last night, the President of the United States gave a speech, and what was he worried about?
What was one of the things he said had to stop?
I mean,
he said many things.
Yeah, I know.
The oligarchy.
Yeah, the oligarchy.
And the fact that congressmen can benefit from the stock market.
Oh.
Okay.
This is the latest report of 2024.
Members of Congress who made the most in the stock market.
Interesting.
Number one, Republican with a 149% return.
It's a good year.
It's a good year.
Yeah, Debbie Schultz, 142.
Ron Wyden, 123.
Roger Williams, 100.
How much did 111?
How much did you, what were your returns like?
I mean, your return's got to be, no, 300, 400?
No, it's less, significantly less than 100% in return.
Less than 100%.
I thought I did pretty well, too, but no, apparently.
No, apparently, no.
Morgan McGarvey at 105%.
Lots of triple-digit annual returns.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
How is that?
How is that possible?
Everybody complains about Nancy Pelosi, but let me find her on the list here.
How good she is.
Now, she's been higher on some years, but she's only a 70% return.
Okay.
Yeah.
the raw numbers are very large with Messi because she's had a lot of money in the market.
Yes, that is.
It's nice to have a 70% return.
Correct.
It would be nice.
Can you imagine having at least a 70% return on your money every year?
It's very nice.
Yeah.
People fight for 5% return.
I picked a couple of good stocks recently, too.
I'm nowhere near 70% annual returns.
I'm not close to that.
I'm not close to that.
So,
yeah.
My point is here: is that this is both both sides of the aisle.
And
it tends to be those who are more liberal and big government that are the ones involved in this.
Now, not all of them,
obviously.
And there are some big government rhinos out there that aren't on this list.
But,
you know, if you want to know who
who's working the system,
I would just look at their portfolios.
There's the top 30.
You know, Tommy Tuberville,
5.7% return.
That's not
okay.
Tuberville.
Tuberville.
That's fairly normal.
Yeah.
It's like maybe a little below what you'd expect in a year like this.
Right.
With this huge, with this Bidenomics working so well, you'd think you'd get more than 5%.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you can get 5% at a bank account if you're in the right one.
Correct.
I mean, maybe a little bit less than that these days, but it's right around that.
I mean,
you're making 10%, maybe.
Yeah, 10% returns, I think, are over a long period of time, totally rational to
the market recently, you know, with the stock market just being completely bogus.
You could probably make that.
But we're going to go over the farewell speech.
You know, because they always try to leave us with some ancient wisdom.
You know, we got to avoid this and this.
And if you just listen to me in my farewell address.
So, what were the things that Biden was warning us against?
Oh, you won't believe it.
I'm only going over it because I know you didn't watch it.
You know, I thought about having just AI watch it,
but couldn't figure that out yet.
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So the ceasefire deal and the
whole deal that, you know, oh, that was Donald Trump.
That was a...
Fell apart.
The Israeli cabinet has delayed the vote on that.
Now,
I gave you some perspective on this in hour number one.
If you were there, thank you very much.
If you missed it, all you have to do is listen to the podcast today.
This is something that I don't think Donald Trump was surprised by overnight.
I don't think Israel is going, nah, we don't want it,
without at least talking to President Donald Trump, because he's very clear there will be hell to be paid coming probably Wednesday if
all those people are not out.
It was a bad deal for Israel, which leads me to believe the reason why it was even struck was because of the threat from Donald Trump.
But the people who made the deal, of course, was Biden and his administration, which they're not going to give Israel a good deal.
Of course not.
It would all be in favor of Hamas.
Now, the president,
he gave his farewell speech.
And boy, wasn't it good last night?
Did you
know you didn't see it?
Reportedly, it was,
Glenn.
Yeah.
Reportedly, it happened.
It occurred.
But,
you know, if...
You know, if a tree falls in the forest and no one heard it, did it really happen?
We're going to go over it because it was
incredible what he said last night.
We'll go over that here in just a second.
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So Joe Biden, and I know this is all going to come as new news to you, Stu, because
I'm not going to lie, it came to me as new news this morning
when I read it in the show prep.
This is not something I would even care about
from this president, but I think it's important just to notice how he's leaving office.
And there's a couple of things.
One,
have you ever seen a president that nobody gives a flying crap about more than this one?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I mean,
have I?
No.
Has it ever occurred in American history, I think, is more of the question.
Right.
It could be like, you know, John Tyler or Taylor.
I don't even know Tyler.
Tyler, right?
That was the one I didn't even realize existed.
Right.
John Taylor, I think, is the basis for Duran Duran.
John Tyler, former president.
Right.
So former president.
I care about what's happening in this administration just a little bit more than John Tyler or John Taylor.
Or John Taylor either.
I mean, I care a little bit more about John Taylor.
I do, yeah, you too.
Because he had, I mean, they did have some great songs.
They had some great songs, man.
Just admit it.
So, I mean, I just don't care.
I don't care.
The only reason why I do care is because what is he doing today to destroy our country?
Okay.
Yeah.
You know, we've been doing the series of Biden's parting shots on our show, Studios America, by the way, Blaze TV.
And there's a lot.
You could say he's not doing anything because you think he's incoherent and falling asleep on the job.
No, he's not doing anything.
Yeah, it may very well be true.
But it also doesn't matter.
He is doing a lot to the country here as he walks out the door.
Sure.
But it does not seem like anyone seems to really care.
Like there was another, what, $500 billion
forgiveness of loans yesterday?
Not that much, no.
How much was it?
He did 150,000 people and then another 200,000 people, I believe, over the past few days.
A lot of money and a lot of people.
Yes.
And this one, he's saying, because the university scammed them.
Oh, God.
Okay.
So,
I think that's just, it's amazing.
It's like, okay, if the university scammed them, you go through a legal proceeding.
Yeah.
And that's how they get their money back.
That's how you get your money back.
They don't get the money back.
We don't have to take that on as a country.
Correct.
And again, none of this is legal.
None of this is constitutional.
Most of this will be overturned after he's out of office.
Most of these poor people who believe they no longer have these loans will wind up having these loans.
Right.
But they're still going.
They're still going.
I mean, they're filing all kinds of suits in courts, and you're like, that's not going to stand under Trump.
They're not going to pursue that.
It's just, okay, well, then stop it.
Spend the time to stop it.
That's what he's doing.
He's just lighting little brush fires everywhere.
Thank goodness, Donald Trump is not California.
He'll put them out quickly, I think.
Now,
Biden gave a speech, and I just rewrote it.
I'm sorry.
I rewrote the speech because
I said everything that he said, but I added a little bit of the truth.
Okay.
So.
Let me give you what he said last night.
I mean, first, I mean, do we have the
hail to the chief or something that makes it sound official because it was a very official it was in the white house he was sitting on i'm not kidding he was sitting on a pillow last night yeah no the real one just go ahead and so he's
and now a message from the president of the united states
my fellow americans folks i'm serious this is it this is my last address as your president no joke I've been in public service
for 50 years now, maybe more.
I've seen a lot in my time, but I got to tell you, still believe in America.
But there's some things we need to talk about, things that really worry me.
I'm not kidding.
This is serious stuff.
First of all, the oligarchy thing.
Yeah, it's bad.
Folks, we got billionaires and corporations running the shows right now, and it's dangerous.
I mean, come on, we can't have people, billionaires that think they can run everything like George Sort.
Well, no, okay, probably he deserves a medal, but other people like that that vote differently than the way we want them to vote that's just gotta stop gotta stop okay
he's a good guy mostly you know and big tech don't even get me started folks don't don't it's like my dad used to say when i was growing up in scranton you know just an average scrappy kid hanging out with black people and minorities mainly uh you know my dad used to say to me don't trust big tech he was way ahead of the game way ahead i loved my dad i'm gonna cry cry.
By the way, California, I can relate because I've had a kitchen fire once.
Anyway, back to big tech.
Don't even get me started.
We had to work with them, you know, to protect democracy.
That's why we had an open line to Facebook and Twitter.
Some people called it censorship.
That's malarkey, okay?
It was just
guardrails.
Yeah, guardrails for democracy.
That's what that was.
And misinformation.
Folks, I'm
It's everywhere.
No joke.
Americans are buried in misinformation.
But let me be clear.
We weren't part of that.
Okay, maybe a little bit, but not very much.
I mean, not that you know of.
It's coming out.
Okay.
Well, all right.
Maybe a little.
I mean, we did say Hunter's laptop was fake.
Turns out wasn't.
That was a surprise.
No joke, people.
I had no idea.
You know, maybe we got a few things wrong about COVID, you know, like the origins, the lockdowns, the vaccines, you know, but come on.
Come on, folks.
I'm serious.
It was confusing.
You try keeping it straight.
Come on.
Look, I know some of you are mad about my family making a few bucks overseas, but folks, let me tell you, that's how business gets done sometimes.
You know, what are you going to do?
My son, Hunter, good kid, smart as a whip.
Oh, my gosh, what a talented painter he is.
Did you hear $500 million of his paintings have been lost in the fire?
Damn it.
But a good thing we had insurance on all of that art.
You know, he got some deals, you know, China, Ukraine, whatever, but it was all above board.
I mean, I'm serious, folks.
It's fine, totally legit.
And here's the thing about AI.
It's scary.
Artificial intelligence, that's what they call it.
I don't trust it.
One day you're talking to your phone.
The next thing you know, it's running your life.
That's why I wanted Congress to ban stock trading for government employees.
No joke.
No joke.
You can't have senators buying stocks when they know
stuff about stocks.
It's just wrong, folks.
Never.
I mean, not recently.
I've not recently benefited from stock trading.
No joke.
My family made it the old-fashioned way through bribery.
Okay.
That's what we did.
All right.
And that's America.
Let me tell you about America and unity.
Folks, we need unity now more than ever.
But you know what's stopping us?
And I mean it, people who don't listen, they spread lies.
They stir up division, some of them even vote for the other guy and I'm not kidding.
These people are dangerous, folks.
I'm not kidding.
Makes me so mad.
I could.
I don't know.
You know the rest.
Now I know I've made some mistakes.
Nobody's perfect.
I mean I'm pretty damn close, but come on folks, give me a break.
I'm just doing what's right, you know?
You got to trust me on this.
In closing, I want to remind you of the Statue of Liberty.
That lady's been swaying in the wind for years, but she never falls, just like America.
She might lean a little to the right or to the left, but she stays upright.
No joke.
It's a miracle.
They wouldn't let me change that torch to an ice cream cone, which I think would have been great.
You know, and her feet, we should have given her some socks or something because her feet's got to be cold.
They're made out of metal, you know.
Seriously.
Seriously, folks, I'm not joking.
What's her hair smell like?
So now it's your turn to stand guard.
Keep the faith.
Protect democracy.
And remember, I love the little children.
Hey, God loves the little children.
He keeps them in the palm of his hand.
I've got my palm of my hand on little children.
It's good.
Folks, come on.
I'm being serious.
It's real.
I love it.
I'm serious.
God bless you.
And
God bless something else.
I don't remember what it was.
So that is the summary of his speech last night.
And
then he walked off into the
sunset with the.
And they're pretty close.
He had the seniors come in, you know, from his senior center.
And
right up.
It was pretty good.
Ow, that one hurt their butt.
Hey, he was trying.
No, folks.
Seriously, they're trying their best.
They're seniors.
And
look at them go.
Look at them go.
The Joe Biden players, ladies and gentlemen.
And we're going to miss them.
We're going to miss them.
We really are.
We really are.
You know, I was thinking, I really don't care except for the destruction.
And I think Democrats...
kind of have it in the exact right place because they don't care about the destruction, I don't think, you know, at least the ones in Washington.
And they're not paying attention to him at all.
They do not care what he's doing.
They don't don't care.
Okay.
Isn't this exactly the way we should all feel about our president all the time?
Without the fear of, good God, what is he doing behind the scenes?
Without that fear, he should not have that big of an impact, nor should all those clowns in Washington.
You know what I'd like to do?
I'd like to go back to doing comedy.
Like, remember, Stu, in the old days, 25 years ago before 9-11, we were doing comedy.
Wouldn't that be nice?
That would be nice.
I'd love to do that.
But we suddenly had to care because these people are completely out of their mind and out of control.
The way the Democrats care about Joe Biden right now is the way we should care about every president.
Okay?
They should have such little power.
I'm not joking, folks.
I'm not being serious.
Such little power, we don't care.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now let's go have some ice cream.
I mean, that's, you know, what the founders kind of wanted, right?
They wanted a country in which
you didn't have to think about the king all the time.
And you would say, shut up.
Shut up a you.
That's what I think our founders, our Italian founders.
Italian founders say, shut up a you.
Shut up a you.
Shut up a you.
Because, again, it's easy to think about it now as someone you probably like is coming into office, right?
So you might, you know, like the focus on him.
Well, I like the focus on him because he's going to fix it.
He's going to undo a lot of the things that Biden had to do.
And then
we need to care enough to get those things out of an executive order and, I don't know, passed as laws.
Otherwise, four years from now, we can have somebody even Karl Marx, they might bring back from the dead.
And they'd be like, Karl Marx, you know, his first time around didn't go well.
But I'm serious, folks.
He's great now.
And look at that beard.
I mean, that's a great beard, especially especially for being dead for so long.
And they could bring him back and we'd be facing it again.
And he'd be like, I'm going to do a few executive orders.
What's the problem?
I, you know, no.
We need to pay attention so they actually pass these things as bills.
An interesting thing, development on that front, the Republicans are trying to talk Trump out of doing some of these executive orders when he first starts because
of basically a technicality technicality that comes with this law that they want to pass, this reconciliation bill.
This is coming up.
This is their one big bill, right?
And to do that, they can pass this bill with only 50 senators if it's cutting the deficit, essentially.
And so
some of these executive orders that Trump wants to do will help that, right?
But
they need to have them in the bill to make sure the scoring is right so they can pass it.
I got to tell you, I think there's more to cut than everybody thinks.
You know what I mean?
I'm with you on that.
You know, oh, gee, we've got to reduce the deficit, and you're going to cut a lot of places.
I think you can find more.
I think you can.
I think you can.
I think you can.
I mean, again, if you're going to do it anyway, I'd prefer, like, if it's a good measure and it's going to improve the budget situation, I would rather have it in the reconciliation bill than as an executive order for the same reasons you're talking about.
So, I think that's a good idea.
But I would like to not give away
the stuff that we could get also through executive order.
Yeah.
Like if you can get it through the law.
Get it through the law.
Get it through the bill.
Get it that way.
If it's not available there,
then take it out.
And then you go with the export.
Because there's a lot that can be cut.
I mean, gee, I don't know.
We're a few hundred billion dollars away from being able to save in the deficit and pass this bill.
I don't know.
Department of Education, where are the keys?
You can't do that by executive order, though.
No, no, no.
I'm saying Congress.
Yeah, Congress.
I'm saying Congress.
I'm going to go for it.
Oh, we can't do it in the bill because
we can't pass it with just 50 because there's not enough.
Where are the keys to the Department of Education?
I'd just like to see them right now.
Let's put them in the pile.
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You know, you really didn't seem to care about hour number one today, Stu.
I mean, you kind of phoned it in.
I didn't care about it?
Yeah, you didn't seem like all that intrigued by, you know, the drone space alien.
I mean,
I'm told you this.
I'm not.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm just not.
It's not my thing.
I'm not saying that other people aren't.
In fact, a lot of people are.
Who is not interested in possibly extraterrestrial life
or
interdimensional beings?
Three times government officials have testified on interdimensional beings.
I'm assuming this is a rhetorical question because when you say who isn't, you just we just confirmed that I wasn't.
You know, I'm just ill.
How is it possible?
It's not my thing.
I don't, I mean, first of all, I don't think it's interdimensional beings.
I think there's.
Michael Schellenberger kind of.
I mean, no, well, I love Michael Schellenberg.
I do too.
Necessarily, I don't know that he believes that either, but he's
like,
I'm trying to figure it out.
That's the most likely that I see.
I will disagree with Michael if he believes that.
I don't think it's the most likely.
I think, I don't know.
I mean, I kind of had felt like the whole story had faded away, honestly.
No, there's we were talking about it a lot in December.
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I try to sell Stew on this story.
I just can't get him.
Yeah, I mean, look,
it's just one of those things.
First of all, you know, I keep thinking if it's some other explanation other than
the
basic earthly types of explanations, what am I going to do about it?
I don't know.
I mean, if
you're not going to be able to do that, I mean, I watched Independence Day.
What was I going to do with that laser?
I can stand up on it.
I can stand under it and it can yell at it, but there's not much I can do.
It's coming.
It's coming.
Right.
So I find this fascinating for in all categories.
Really?
If it is earthly, then somebody, us, China, whatever, we have jumped,
leaped ahead, way ahead.
These things are pulling 700 Gs.
What is that?
I mean, you say that, and have you seen video of it?
Yes.
Yes.
They can tell by the speed and how it just starts and stops how many G's it would take.
Everything I've seen on this looks fake.
I've seen, have you seen the Tic Tac video?
I think so.
Yeah.
I mean, that one's really credible.
And that's
three different, that's three different
military sites tracking the same thing.
So they had a triangle.
It was the same one where they had like the circles going around it.
No, no, no, no, no.
Like that looked completely fake to me the entire time.
No, no, no.
And people took it seriously.
No, this is the one that has, there's just one, it's shaped like a Tic Tac,
and the pilots are talking about it, and it's all of a sudden stopping and then just gone.
And then under the water, and then up above the water.
And they could track it just barely.
But, you know, 700 G, you pass out.
The human body cannot take, you pass out at about 10 or 11 G.
I will tell you, I used to love roller coasters back in the day.
Like my favorite thing when I was a kid, took the kids to
Six Flags here, and we went on the biggest roller coaster they have.
I literally almost passed out like three times on it.
I mean, it was not, it's like probably 1 G or something.
I mean, it's fast.
It's a pretty big roller coaster.
It goes fast, but I couldn't believe it.
I think it's just me getting old.
I was like going around these tight turns.
I used to love them.
I could feel myself drifting to sleep.
I thought I was going to die in the middle of this thing.
And the kids are like, that was so much fun.
I'm like, yeah,
daddy almost died.
Let's do it again, Daddy.
Could you write it all day?
Yeah, I mean, 700 Gs.
There's nothing
that could take that.
So if it is us
or anybody on Earth, we have
crossed a barrier into something entirely different.
What's the skeptical case on this video?
There's got to be one.
There always is.
That it's
Perception, the video doesn't.
No,
the skepticism is,
I think, the best skepticism on about 100 of these videos, or 100 of these.
100.
100 of these actual sightings.
Not everything that was over in the skies of New Jersey.
I think there were about 5,000.
They have 5,000 reported, and there's 100 that they cannot explain.
So 4,900 they can't explain.
Yeah, they just said that's this.
It's a plane, it's a drone, it's a weather thing, whatever.
There's 100 of them they cannot explain.
And those are the ones that move at incredible speeds,
seem to defy all physics.
If that is Earth, somebody's way ahead.
And the stuff that we can now do
is going to blow your mind.
Because if they have this technology, what is the alloy that is holding that thing together?
What is the propulsion system?
How can we use that propulsion system?
How can you keep a human body from experiencing 700 Gs?
If we have that technology, we're going to Mars quickly.
Okay?
We're able to do things we've never, ever been able to do.
You could have transportation with that technology that could take you from New York to China in, what, 10 minutes?
I mean, the ramifications
if this is Earth technology are phenomenal.
Now,
the other thing that is interesting is they're talking about, they're not talking about necessarily space aliens.
Right.
Okay.
They're saying non-human
experience, what, non-human individuals or something like that.
And
the reason why they're saying it that way, they're not calling them extraterrestrials, is they think that this might be something that quantum physics is allowing to happen, but not from us.
You know, we've always speculated in movies and things like that, always speculated that you know, you'll come to a place to where there's a turning point, okay?
And they're going to, you saw this in Star Trek and everything else.
They're about to discover this.
We want to be there.
So when they discover this, it's time for them to know.
You know what I mean?
And here we are on the verge of, I mean, we're opening the quantum world.
We've opened it already, but we're just peeking at it right now.
And now these interdimensional, which is how quantum physics kind of works,
this interdimensional,
I don't know, being
is
kind of being projected into our world.
I mean, that has ramifications spiritually, if it's one way, but if it's if it's a quantum physics thing, I mean, I read a paper last night.
Go down.
Stu, you start going down a rabbit hole.
Just.
Stop.
I have enough rabbit holes.
I don't need any more rabbit holes in my life.
It's fascinating.
It's fascinating.
You know, it is to some people.
You know, it doesn't have to be fascinating to everybody.
I rant about things all the time off the air that you don't care about.
Yeah, because it's not fascinating.
Yeah, because you don't care about it.
Yeah.
These are just
science that is
so.
A lot of the stuff I rant about is science.
And you're like, oh, God.
I can see your eyes glazing over as I start speaking.
Like what?
Give me a science thing I wasn't interested in.
I mean, I was trying to sell you on the red number three stuff the other day.
You were like, oh, my gosh, the red number three.
You would look like Homer Simpson when a donut passes by.
That's exactly right.
Red number three,
who cares?
Right, exactly.
You don't care.
I think it's interesting.
You don't care.
How?
Sell it to me.
No, I'm not going to.
There's no reason to sell it to me.
I mean, it's already been banned.
I know.
So sell it to me.
Why was that so interesting?
I think it was fascinating because they did it before RFK Jr.
even got to talk about that.
Barely.
I think
the evidence on it is interesting, which I, again, I'm going to piss everybody off in the audience, but like, you know, read number three, like,
there's no evidence whatsoever it causes cancer in humans.
Does anyone interested in that piece of information?
No, one little bit.
It causes it in rats at massive doses.
Are we rats?
We keep saying there's a difference between men and women.
We're very convinced of that.
Is there a difference between humans and rats?
I don't know.
I think there is.
All right.
So hang on.
So here's how you can get me.
I also don't care if they
really at all.
Here's how you can get me interested in this.
Yes.
Okay.
Something's going on with the human body.
Autism is one thing.
Right.
There's no tie of red number three to autism.
No, no, no, I know that.
Right.
But that's not even alleged.
You get me into the food thing by talking to me about why are peanut allergies through the roof?
What is autism all about?
What is causing that?
I don't have an answer.
Right.
But I'm fascinated by those conversations.
Well, we have these things off the air all the time, mostly, where you try to convince me of something you think is important.
You try to get me interested, and I try to get you interested in stuff that I think is important.
That's part of what goes on.
That's the show off the show, right?
That show exists here.
I know.
I just want to show to the people that you are just, I mean, I just, you know, when it comes to space aliens, I'm just like, I'm not saying they're space aliens.
I don't know what they are, but it's fascinating.
Part of it is that, too.
Like, we don't know anything.
I mean, I told you this.
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
There's a new theory.
There's a theory about,
and there's a documentary on people with,
what were we just talking about?
The this is why I never get interested in anything he says because he can't remember what he was just talking about.
Autism.
Okay, so there's this documentary on autism that now they're showing that some kids who have autism, and I'd hate to put it this way, but this is a simple way to it, can read the minds of their family.
Okay.
They know instinctively what they're going to say.
Wow.
All right.
What's that about?
Which leads me to a story I read 10 years ago, an opinion from a scientist who said that he thought autism was actually
the humankind
mutating or
evolving for the next stage of humanity.
That the way information is delivered so quickly and everything else that it needs kind of almost an autistic mind to understand it and to slow things down and to be able to communicate in a different way.
I don't know the answer of what autism is, but I think those are backed with some science.
I think it's fascinating.
All those conversations are interesting, and your conversations are interesting as well.
As I said to you off the air,
you know, we're always talking to people around us who are always asking us news questions, right?
Like, because that's, you know, that's what we do.
They know what we do.
So they're asking these questions.
One of the most common questions outside of election results that I get asked about lately have been the drones in New Jersey.
Like, people want to know what they are.
And I don't have a strong take on it.
I don't, I mean, what I've seen, I'm not at all convinced.
Did you see the scene with Donald Trump at Mar-Lago meeting with all the GOP governors?
Yeah.
And when he said, don't take it from me, ask the governors.
And they went around the table and they were all like, no, they're over our nuclear power plants.
Right.
No one can give us an idea of what they are.
This is out of control.
Yeah.
Right.
So we know something important is happening.
Yeah.
And maybe it's just our government out of control, but even that has massive ramifications.
I think one of the things at the core of this is just that you
like things
where there's no answer more than I do.
Like you like things like that.
Oh, I think we're on the verge of answer.
I think we're on the verge of answering.
Right, but you don't have it.
As you said, as you said, Michael Schellenberger said, everyone's like, I don't know, but it could be this.
And that's the part.
Like, I'm like, okay, show me.
I'm Missouri on this.
Show me.
Prove it.
Give me the evidence.
I don't know.
This is honestly why we're good partners, but he drives me out of my mind.
I mean, we can wildly speculate, which you like doing, frankly.
I just like tying dots together.
I'm honest about about it.
I like tying dots together.
I go, wait a minute, that one doesn't make sense over there.
That makes sense over here.
That's right.
And I do too, but I like doing it in a different way.
I like looking at some very boring, nerdy documentation.
I'm going to do a very nerdy, boring document today.
You were had no interest in it.
I was like, this is nerd city.
But it was all weird speculation stuff.
It was all like, oh, well, this interdimensional being cannot run out.
You're not interested in quantum theory.
You know,
you've dragged me along on that for years.
Frankly, it's so impossible to understand.
And only after hearing you tell me about it 9,000 times do I have any understanding of it?
And even then, it's still so theoretical.
Okay, all right, all right, okay, all right.
Let me give you a theoretical.
Don't answer yet.
I want to know.
Theoretically,
anything could happen on Monday at inauguration.
Anything.
Anything.
Yes.
Space aliens could suck him up into space.
There would be
a nuclear bomb dropped.
They could assassinate.
Somebody could just try to assassinate him again.
All of those
theory.
Yes.
My question to you is
now that you know you're going to Washington,
are you interested in any of those theories?
My understanding is we're broadcasting from Virginia.
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.
Glad you're here, even though I have to drag Stu along to the party.
Now, he was just telling me how he doesn't care about hypotheticals
that you can't prove.
What I said was, I think I care a little less about them.
It's not like I would never be interested in a hypothetical.
We talk about them all the time, but like those things, I can see your brain and your eyes light up when someone's like, here's some crazy possibility that has a one-tenth of a percent chance of being true.
Oh, I don't know.
You're like, oh, my God.
No, I think this has a good chance of being true.
What that truth ends up being, I don't know.
But something game
game changing.
Something game-changing is coming.
I don't know what it's going to end up being, but it's game-changing.
That's almost certainly true.
But why is that?
That's certainly true.
And why do you even care?
Why is that?
Why do I care what?
That he doesn't like what you like, that he's not involved.
Because everyone must like what it is.
No, because
he has a different kind of mind than I do.
I have a big picture mind.
He has the smart one.
Oh, I'm just praying
for a nuke on Monday.
I am.
I'm praying for the nuke.
And I know we're both going to be there, but
he has the kind of mind that gets into the details and the math and the science of all of it.
And if you were just into that a little bit more, you would be...
Yeah, I would have to be fascinated just to have a conversation with it.
It's hard to care about everything, Glenn.
It's hard.
Oh.
And I do think that, you know, at times you just have to, I know the audience who cares a lot about this story.
It's just not my main thing.
I'm interested in what you're saying.
I just, I don't.
Like, you're overwhelmed with everything that's going on.
There's a lot.
Yeah.
There's way too many things.
If you're approaching the singularity, everything is huge and happening, and you can't pay attention to all of them.
Maybe I could be assisted by an AI implant in my brain.
You know, that's all I'm saying.
We'll see you tomorrow.
This is Glenn Beck.