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The catastrophe that is Los Angeles right now.

Much of this, so much of this, could have been prevented.

You know, it could have been minimized.

That's for sure.

A lot of this could have been mitigated.

It didn't have to sweep out of control like it has been.

But when you go to fire hydrants and there's no water in them, it makes it really hard to put out a fire.

Now, is that scientifically confirmed?

Is that consensus?

Yeah, I think they're looking into it.

Okay.

But

initial research has shown

that water does help

In the event of a fire.

So water would help the situation.

We think that's accurate.

Because they have those things.

I thought the fire hydrants were there just to make sure you didn't park in a particular area.

And for somewhere for dogs to pee?

Yes, exactly.

Yeah.

That used to be the case, but now they're saying, no, no, they can actually help fight fires.

Wow.

Yeah, it's weird.

Wow.

If we knew that in advance, maybe we could have made sure they had water.

Right.

You know, but people, I mean, what are the odds of a fire occurring in California?

You know, other, you know, one to one is probably what I would put that.

Like 100%?

100%.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But not they're not 500%.

It's just 100%.

It's 100% chance.

Yeah.

Every year it's going to happen.

And every year the Santa Ana winds are going to blow.

Well, those are, of course, new because of climate change.

They've never occurred before this year.

They've always blown.

The Santa Ana winds have always been around.

Really?

Yeah.

Is that why they have songs and movies about them?

Yeah, that's why.

Okay.

Yeah.

They've been around for a long time.

And you'd continue to be around.

You'd think by watching the news that they were brand new.

You'd think that this was a shocking development.

There's never been fire and there's never been wind in California.

I mean, Albert Hammond wrote a song about this a long time ago.

It never rains in California.

But girl, don't they warn you?

It pours.

Man, it pours.

Wow.

How deep can you go in that song?

If I were to just quiz you right now,

you could go from the beginning all the way through the the song?

I mean, I wouldn't mind.

I think the people of California are like, we've had a tough week.

It'd be nice to hear a little Albert Hammond now.

Yeah, through

the vocal stylings of Pat Gray.

Yeah.

Or not.

No, they may not be.

Or not.

Okay.

Okay.

They don't need a second tragedy on top of the first one.

No, they do not.

No.

It is.

I mean, because you feel for him

24 dead.

24.

That number is not staying at 24.

No.

That is going to go a lot higher.

This is a.

This is a it's a catastrophe on the level of like what I

you'd look at the United States of America and think it wouldn't be possible.

You know, I felt that was absolutely true.

Yeah.

At the time.

Yeah.

Like it didn't seem possible that that sort of chaos and destruction could happen in a country like America.

Yeah.

You know it can.

You know it's there.

You know the possibilities there.

But you think we're not going to blow it so badly that the response to the fire is going to make it seemingly worse.

Well, I heard you and Glenn talking last week about the fact that this reminded him of an Irwin Allen movie from the 1970s.

You know, one of those disasters.

Fire!

Yeah.

That's what it's like.

It's, you know, with a, it's a really bad Charlton Heston feature.

And, you know, he's the fire chief of Los Angeles, and

they're out of water, and somehow the embers are really big and fat now, and they're blowing all over the place.

Like that's, again, like, that's never happened before.

But it is, it's freakish like a

like one of those disaster movies that we used to see all the time.

Except it's playing out in real time right before our eyes in the greatest nation that's ever existed.

How is this possible?

Yeah, you know, we've said that a lot lately.

Yeah.

You know,

I said that during COVID.

How is this possible?

I said that during Afghanistan.

The withdrawal there.

How is this possible that we could be involved in such a thing?

Yeah.

And here we are saying saying it again.

And the answer that you've come up with is climate change.

Is that

safe to assume?

Seemingly didn't have much to do with what was going on in Afghanistan, though they have tried to blame it on climate change.

Yeah, no, I mean, climate change is mentioned in every news story.

Every

single one.

And that's what Gavin Newsom and

Karen Bass are turning to.

Because it's the only thing that they're doing.

It's the only thing they have.

If you think of a Fast and Furious sequel

and Vin Diesel's driving his car

on a bridge at 147 miles an hour, and as he comes over the hump of the bridge, he realizes the bridge in front of him is out, right?

And luckily, there's this one like

incline, like someone left up.

You can launch him a certain

over the.

And as he's pulling up, his options are either to just go down into the canyon or aim for that one board that's leaning up against the traffic cone that's going to bring him across the gulch.

Yeah, but surely he can't hit that.

And you know what?

It's a terrible option, Pat.

Yeah.

But there's no other place to go.

It's either die for sure or attempt to go over the gap in the bridge.

And so he goes and he aims for that

one board and he hits it and he goes up in the the air and he flips over like four times and you know the girl he's with tops falls off and as they're in the air in slow motion that's convenient it happens you know yeah it does and so you know these these a halter top is not built for such things no you know that's not what it's made for no anyway so that and then of course they land perfectly in their you know juiced up you know dodge challenger uh and uh with really good suspension really good suspension it's it's completely fine they drive off but that's kind of what they're trying to do here every other road ends in their own destruction.

Every other excuse, every explanation for what has occurred here points back to Democrats and the way they've done their job, except climate change, because that's the one they can blame on you in Ohio.

They can blame that on you driving around a minivan in Indiana.

That one's your fault.

Every other explanation for this is their fault.

And they can't go to any one of those roads.

Every single one of those roads leads back to them.

So they have to go with climate change.

There's no other way.

That's it.

They are absolutely screwed if you don't believe that a 0.9% Fahrenheit Celsius, excuse me,

climate

temperature increase over a century, if you don't believe that is responsible for these fires, it's them.

It's their jobs.

It's their reputation.

It's their party that dies.

So it better be climate change.

And that's what they're going for.

Yeah.

It's just, will it work on the American people again?

Will it work on Southern Californians right now?

I think a lot of them are starting to wake up a bit.

You know, I hope so.

You have to.

If they don't, it's hopeless.

When your house is

sitting there in ashes

and that's what you come back to after you've evacuated and then gone back to see what happened.

You can't be buying into the climate change garbage, can you?

I mean, it's just every single year they have these fires in California.

Every single year.

It's not new to the 21st century.

It wasn't new to the 20th century.

It just, it happens all the time there.

This happens to be

in a more vulnerable area of Southern California than normal.

And so it's burned down more structures than normal.

But that's not climate change.

That just happens to be where this fire began and then spread because of the wind.

It has lots of fuel in that area.

Obviously, the houses are close together.

Yeah.

And it spreads pretty easily.

Particularly, Pat, I've noticed it spreads pretty easily when you don't have water to fight it.

Yeah.

You know, I mean, when you can't do anything to stop it, fire just keeps going.

It's like a perpetual motion machine.

It just keeps going and going and going.

And when you don't stop it, it just keeps going.

That's what fire does.

And apparently no Democrats in the entire state of California were aware of this fact

because they didn't prioritize, you know, having water to fight it.

But, like, you're right.

You know, even if even if you take the climate, like the climate change argument seriously, which is hard to do, frankly, in this position, like climate change, you know,

it's just a catch-all for every single problem that they have.

They just blame it on climate change.

But even if you take it seriously, what you're talking about is these wins that have existed forever, are they a few percent worse?

Okay, let's just take that seriously.

Okay, maybe they are.

Is that the difference between this entire city burning down or not?

No.

Is it dry?

Yeah, it's dry.

Is it a little bit drier than normal?

I mean, I don't think there's a ton of evidence to support that.

But okay, it's a few percent drier than it normally was 50 years ago.

Is that the reason that the entire palisades burned to the ground?

Like, no,

of course not.

No person could possibly believe such a thing.

It's so inherently and obviously stupid that they just hope your emotion or distrust or hatred for the other side, hatred for Donald Trump, hatred for Republicans.

They just hope that built-in foundational part of California life is strong enough to absolve them from their own actions.

Yeah.

Right?

That's it.

That's all they have.

That is it.

And let's hope and pray it doesn't work this time.

I mean, because it's going to happen again if they don't do something about it.

You know, if they don't change their policies,

then this will keep happening.

It'll happen every year at about this time.

All right, we're going to play for you what the L.A.

Fire Chief had to say over the weekend.

Pretty amazing.

Coming up in one minute.

I will say too,

Pat asked for your prayers as we were going to be starting the show for Glenn.

And there was a couple of different ways his health issue could have gone.

One was a little bit more negative and one was a little more positive.

And I don't know, I don't know if you're sitting in your car and you said some prayers right then because I just got a text message that it went the good way.

Oh, good.

So

good.

A very good outcome here for Glenn.

And we hope now to see him back tomorrow.

So he'll tell you all about it, I'm sure.

I'm sure.

In more detail than you could.

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He will tell you about it.

Hopefully there's a hemorrhoid video coming out or something.

Who knows?

Is that on the way?

No, I don't think so.

I didn't get that in the technology.

No, no.

He certainly didn't send the video.

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Have you seen this animation of the fire spreading?

No.

Let's take a look at that real quick.

If you're watching on Blaze TV,

we've got together this incredible animation that shows the timeline of how this fire advanced through the communities of Pacific Palisades and Malibu.

Here it is, January 2017.

It's a huge area.

At 6.17, it was at 2,900 acres.

And then on January 8th, that explosion to 15,000 acres.

And then the next day, 17,000 acres as it progressed into the mountains.

And then on the 9th, 19,000 acres.

And you can see how far it had gotten into Malibu.

And then we come to yesterday at 20,000 acres.

And you can see

21,000 acres, but you see how far across it spread and all the way up to the 11th, which is today at 22,660 acres.

This is just information from 7.30 a.m.

today.

Wow.

I feel terrible for these people.

I mean, video after video.

My wife, I don't know if your wife's like this, but my wife is like, you know, lying in bed before she goes to sleep, just watching video after video of like really sad people coming back to their homes and, you know, like rediscovering their,

you know, she was watching one with

the dog was still alive.

Like some of them, the dog was in the house, but got, I guess, got out, stayed in the area, and came back to his house, which is totally burned down, and the dog like runs out.

Oh, wow.

I mean, like, stuff like that.

It's just stuff like that constantly.

And, you know, this is a very online social media friendly community, right?

Like a lot of people there, like they, they, they post all the time anyway.

A lot of influencers live in this area.

So there's just, and obviously celebrities.

So you have that unending flow of content from the area.

And it just, it's so terrible.

It is.

And like, it is.

You know, these people have more resources than others that have gone through natural disasters.

And that's maybe a positive for at least the recovery.

But geez, man, this is terrible.

I don't care who you are.

It is.

I feel real empathy.

And it's not all celebrities.

No.

You know, like there was this, there was a guy who ignored the evacuation order and stayed to try to save his house.

And so he did.

And he was saying

that he inherited that house from his parents.

He lived there since 1960.

In 1960, that house was probably $15,000 or $20,000.

You know, it might be worth $5 million now, but he doesn't have $5 million to rebuild.

So he stayed put, ignored the evacuation order, took his garden hose and put out all the fires anywhere near the area

that started to flare up near his house.

He saved two of his neighbors' homes and his own

by just soaking them down when they sprang up.

And I guess he soaked himself down too so that he wouldn't catch on fire, soaked down the homes.

You know, and it just shows you what could have happened if they had the manpower to get ahead of these flames and do these kinds of things.

How did he know before the fire started that water would do anything to them?

How is he?

I guess he's like a

scientist of some sort.

Yeah, and he'd been doing some research into the physics of fire

for the last several years.

And

what a miracle.

I know.

Thank God.

He hadn't thought of that.

I mean, a garden hoe, because you do watch it as it spreads.

You know, they start off really small.

Like an emperor hits a house and there's a little tiny thing.

If you're there with a fire, with your garden hose, you can put it out easily.

You can put it out easily.

Of course,

it's really, really dangerous to stay there.

It is risky.

And it was for him.

But he said based on his experience with previous fires, he at least knew something of what to do.

For instance, that water may put out the flames.

That was one of the things he knew.

Incredible.

It would have been.

It was great to know that beforehand.

Yeah, it would have been pretty helpful, I think.

But

I don't know if this will make any difference to the officials in California.

Will it make any difference to Gavin Newsom?

Or will he just continue to chalk it up to

0.9 degrees Celsius over a century?

Yeah.

Because this will happen again, again and again and again if they don't do something about it.

Yeah.

And by the way,

globally, we're not seeing any increase in the amount of acreage burned.

So, I mean, if it's climate change, you'd think.

Now, this is a really terrible event, but

this is not going to

make the global percentage of acreage burned any different, right?

Like, it's a small area when you think about the Earth, right?

It's just where all these structures are.

That's why it's, you know, these things burn in the middle of nowhere often, and we just don't really notice them.

And we had those Australia fires a few years ago, and what they found found out, it was actually a below average year.

We hear non-stop coverage about how terrible it was for Australia.

At the end of the year, it was a below average year for the amount of acreage burned.

Incredible.

I mean, look, you know, this is.

Incredible.

You'd think only the opposite if you actually looked at the news

because they try to tell you the opposite.

And like, look, climate change, you know, can it have a factor around the fringes?

Maybe.

But like, that's not the difference between, that might be the difference.

Let's say it's the difference between 1,000 homes burning and 998 homes burning.

Now, if you're in those two homes, probably means a lot to you.

But at the end of the day, that's not the cause here.

You need to be able to be prepared to fight these things because they're going to happen whether you think you can control the global temperature or not.

These fires are coming.

They're going to happen.

You need to be prepared for them.

And not managing the land, not having the water ready, sitting here and using your resources on DEI nonsense and seeing how many lesbian firefighters you can hire is not a good process to make that happen.

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We were foes yesterday, friends today.

But

my NFL team played his NFL team.

No, hey.

Sort of.

Packers were down to like no players.

No.

They had to have some substitutes from Oshkosh Junior College

JV team.

And that's who played the second half yesterday.

I don't know if I've ever seen a game like that.

I haven't either.

Everybody was getting hurt on every play.

And they weren't even like, you know, because I do remember one or two games where there was like people trying to intentionally injure the other team, where I remember that happening like back in the old Saints teams that happened with.

Yeah.

But

actually, I think an old Eagles team as well, of course.

But this one was like a lot of them were just like friendly fire.

It was like, you know, guys just rolling into their own teammates' ankles.

Like, it was just.

No, it didn't seem like dirty play.

It just seemed like it was.

Just happened.

Yeah.

Just happened.

And so the Packers lost their top three wide receivers, their offensive line.

It was a lot.

There was a lot to do with.

I do feel for you in some way.

But in some evil way, wound up winning.

22-10 and moving on.

So, who do they play next week?

We don't interrupt tonight's game,

which is

the Rams and the Vikings.

Okay.

Should be an interesting one in Philly next weekend.

Do you believe that the football season is almost over already?

I know.

Incredible how fast that went by.

I will say I did note that next Sunday, they're the early game, I think 2.30 Eastern time, the Eagles are playing in Philly.

And I did also

just get the approval or final okay

that I'm going to be going up and covering the inauguration of President Trump next week, which is on Monday.

Oh.

And I noticed the Eagles,

D.C.

and Philly

close.

So they were just going to sell it right away.

And I was thinking, maybe I need to get up there

early,

you know, and just kind of make my way over to the Eagles just because I'm since I'm right there.

Plus, I will say, thinking about trying to take a plane into Washington, D.C.

for this thing,

I mean, it's going to be a catastrophe.

Oh, yeah.

I can't even imagine what the travel is going to be like going there.

I'm already dreading it.

But I'm just going to say that.

So it would make more sense to fly into Philadelphia, wouldn't it?

People aren't going there.

It's what, an hour, hour and a half away.

Something we don't.

It doesn't matter what the details are on that, Pat.

Whatever it is.

I will say it's going to be pretty exciting.

We're going to be hosting coverage on Blaze TV.

The inauguration falls live in the third hour of this broadcast,

the lead up to it.

And then I think the inauguration happens immediately after that.

We'll be on Blaze TV.

And then hosting that and showing all that.

At least

this is what we're talking about.

So I'm excited about it.

Yeah, I'm excited to see it.

And I've never been to one of those before.

It'll be interesting to watch all that play out.

You know, kind of an

amazing piece of history and a good one, too.

I mean, we do have a lot of negative things going on right now.

I will be happy to see someone, really anyone in the White House because I don't think currently we have anyone.

We did have Joe Biden for a time.

I'm not sure when that ended.

Maybe 2022, 2021.

Right.

Not exactly sure when he stopped being able to get it.

It ended about the time it began.

I think that's when he was pretty well

gone.

He certainly wasn't...

couldn't have been president when the Afghanistan withdrawal happened.

So sometime before that.

So I don't know.

He claims that went as well as it possibly could, though.

Yeah.

So I know.

It's interesting.

It's interesting.

I mean, nothing went wrong with this administration.

They were completely scandal-free.

I don't know if you're aware of that, but completely scandal-free.

Completely scandal-free.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Completely scandal-free.

I keep hearing that he's going to make a bunch of speeches this week.

Joe Biden.

Oh,

yes.

To cement his legacy.

Oh, my gosh.

You know,

and

okay, you keep trying.

Keep trying.

I don't think you want that legacy cemented.

I think you'd want it to be washed away.

Yeah, you want people to forget.

Yes.

You ever have a job that you just leave off your resume?

And now, thinking about this, you worked with Glenn Beck.

So, yes, of course, you wanted to leave certain jobs off your resume.

I never worked.

Who?

Pat, who?

No, that wasn't Glenn and Pat.

Uh-uh.

That's a different person completely.

But like, that's what you should do if you're Joe Biden.

Just what if you claim you weren't president?

I mean, they might as well.

They lie about everything else.

Why not?

And then we'll start getting think pieces like, why the right is seizing on Joe Biden's claim that he was not president?

Like, wait.

I feel like he really...

Shouldn't we be seizing on that?

Yeah.

They've been doing that with Elon Musk now because he's been talking about this huge scandal in, was it Britain, Great Britain, where they, with the abuse of young women by Pakistani immigrants.

And it's terrible.

There's Germany.

I can't remember this story off the top of my head.

It's seemingly all over the place.

Anyway, they're like, ah, can you believe he's seizing on this?

What's up with that?

Why does he care so much about kids being abused and molested?

That's weird.

What a weird interest to have.

What's going on with Elon Musk?

What does that say about him that he cares that children are being molested?

Something bad.

We're not going to say what it is, but you can put two and two together.

Wait, I think we should all be

concerned concerned about that?

Yeah, definitely.

Let's shine a little light on that situation because up until now, nobody has.

It's been going on for a while.

I mean, there's like thousands of these rapes that have happened, and we haven't heard a thing about it until now.

You know, if Musk doesn't talk about it, who is going to?

Probably nobody.

Seems like accountability is important.

Yeah.

And in raising the possibility of accountability is a worthwhile pursuit.

Yes.

Now, as far as the accountability on this Los Angeles wildfire,

who will accept accountability for that?

I think no one will.

That's basically the way this goes every single time, especially in California.

We're just talking about football.

Things are so bad, obviously, they had to move the Los Angeles Rams, Minnesota Vikings game from Los Angeles to Arizona tonight, which is

problematic, I guess.

In the grand scheme of things, a smaller problem.

A smaller problem.

It's still an inconvenience and a weird thing for a lot of people who paid a lot of money to be there.

And also the team having a home game, which they basically don't have now.

Right.

Right?

It's a neutral field now.

Yeah, so obviously football well down the list of concerns in this particular situation, but that is a massive thing.

A concern.

Yeah, your team loses a home game.

Maybe you've gone through a bunch of stuff here and you want to go see your team play.

And it's going to be like that one night of diversion from all the horror that's going on in that area.

I was kind of wondering why, is it because San Diego is not an NFL town anymore?

They didn't move it there.

It seems like San Diego would have been, I don't know, closer, more convenient.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Seems like it would have been more San Diego.

San Diego where the Chargers used to play

instead of moving it clear to.

Phoenix, Arizona.

Yeah.

Or, you know, you could have gone to Oakland or San Francisco.

Right.

You know, but, you know,

yeah, you can at least keep it in the state.

Right.

But no, they did not do that.

So, you know, I guess it's the facilities are, you know, nice there and ready to go.

Yeah.

And it's in an affiliate city.

So maybe that has something to do with it.

I don't know.

Yeah.

But apparently a lot of people are pissed off at millionaires

who have hired private firefighters to come and guard and protect their home.

This is amazing.

I'm not sure where the anger comes from.

If I had the means to do that, you better believe I would do that.

I would obviously, if you're a multi-multi-millionaire, are you going to pay $2,000 an hour to have some private firefighters come and save your house?

Of course.

That's worth maybe $10 or $20 million or $30 million.

Who knows how much some of these homes are worth?

But of course you'd do it, right?

And just because not everybody can do it doesn't mean you shouldn't, does it?

Or am I mistaken on that?

I guess you should only do what all Americans can do, and that's watch your house burn to the ground.

Yeah.

It's a nice nice picture of what the left really thinks about this stuff.

Yeah.

Because they don't want everyone to be better.

They want everyone to be equal, even if that means a lot of people have to get worse, if their life has to get worse, right?

Like they'd rather have those homes, those multi-million dollar homes, burned to the ground like everybody else's, because that would be fair, right?

It would be fair to them to see those people get punished in the same way.

When in reality, what you'd like to do, and this happened with a lot of very wealthy people who brought in private firefighters, not only did they save their house, but they saved a lot of houses around them.

Neighboring houses.

Caruso, who was the guy who almost became mayor of Los Angeles, God, this one looked a lot different if he was.

He wouldn't have been in Ghana

when this started.

I can promise you that.

But he has the Palisades Mall is his property, and he brought in private firefighters.

They were able to protect it and a bunch of homes

and structures around

the mall.

They saved that whole area.

yeah and it was a pretty big area yeah and what what happens with these private firefighters is they have their own water tankers and so they bring them in and they don't have to rely on the fire hydrants they've got these tankers filled with water and they saved the whole thing because when the embers start flaring up you just put them out like the homeowner did with his garden hose these firefighters did the same thing uh for that outdoor mall and as you mentioned the surrounding area saved that whole area And there was some video taken of it, which we can't play because I don't have the rights to it, but we,

of some people driving through the area showing the mall in pristine condition, mostly, although Caruso said there was some damage.

But then they get to the end of the street and they show

what happened across the street from the mall, complete devastation.

It's totally burned to ash.

Jeez.

I mean, of course you're going to save your property if you can.

Why would you begrudge somebody doing that?

I don't begin to understand that.

And places like the Associated Press are saying, you know, this event could increase inequality.

Could it?

Could it?

Could it?

And I saw that headline.

Yeah.

I was too irritated to even

read the article.

What about it will increase?

Is that because my place is standing and yours isn't?

Right.

That's the inequality.

I mean, that's terrible.

We don't want that to happen.

We don't want that.

We don't want that.

Yeah.

If your place burns down, all places should burn down.

Is that

would be equal.

That would be equality, Pat.

Yeah.

That's what we're searching for.

Right.

We're searching for equality.

Above all else.

To heck with every other concept known to man.

Let's just have equality.

So if your house burns down, I got to let mine burn down, whether I have firefighters there or not.

Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

That's really good.

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All right, we're talking about the inequality that this fire is now bringing.

It could actually increase, we're finding out, the inequality in this country.

Yeah.

And you might be wondering, well, how?

Right.

The California wildfires could be leaving deeper inequality in their wake.

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you would be wrong.

They give you some examples.

Samantha Santoro, who's 22, a first-generation college student at Cal Poly Pomona, remembered being annoyed when the initial news coverage of the wildfires focused more on celebrities.

She and her sister, who attends UC Berkeley, worry how their Mexican immigrant parents and working-class neighbors who lost their homes will move forward.

We don't have like, oh, I'll just go to my second home and stay there, she said.

The landlord of their family's two-bedroom house, probably evil.

Probably.

Well, you know,

it could be.

We don't know for sure.

And we have to find out the skin color and their genitals and who they're attracted to before we know if they're a villain in the story or not.

But the landlord of the family's two-bedroom house with a pool.

Again, this is not exactly like, usually these sad stories aren't homes with pools.

It's not the way that this normally goes.

They had increased the $1,650 rent, making it possible for the Santoros to affordably raise their, or they had never increased the rent, excuse me, so they must be good guys.

They were able to raise their daughters affordably.

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The family has renters, insurance, but not much else.

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If you're a huge celebrity, you got millions and millions of dollars.

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this is what it doesn't mean you're going to be rich you try but why do you try to get rich pat is it because you want 9 000 ferraris look 9 000 ferraris i'm sure is wonderful however the reason you actually do this is because when you have bad events like this you're able to make it better yeah i could stay at the beverly hills uh inn if i if you know if you have that kind of money then you know you can kind of weather a situation like this if your house burns down you're staying staying at a nice hotel.

It's kind of the point.

It's why you go to work.

It is the point.

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But of course,

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It was Joe Rogan, wasn't it?

Yeah.

And what he had to say about censorship from the Biden administration.

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okay so mark zuckerberg uh talking about censorship from the biden administration hmm interesting uh here's what he had to say on uh rogan's show these people from the biden administration would

call up our team and like scream at them and curse and it's like these documents are it's all kind of out there did you record any of those phone calls?

I don't, no, I don't think, I don't think we were.

But I think

there are emails.

The emails are published.

It's all kind of out there.

We just said, no, we're not going to take down humor and satire.

We're not going to take down things that are that are true.

And then at some point,

I guess,

I don't know, it flipped a bit.

I mean, Biden, when he was, he gave some statement at some point.

I don't know if it was a press conference or to some journalist where he basically was like, these guys are killing people.

And

I don't know.

Then, like, all these different agencies and branches of government basically just started investigating and coming after our company.

It was brutal.

It was brutal.

Hmm.

They're not going to take things down that are true.

Hmm.

The Hunter laptop comes to mind.

You did take down things that were true.

And you did

squash conservatives and conservative sites and

hampered traffic and really shut us down for what four years and now all of a sudden we get this mea copa okay it's a little irritating to me i mean i believe that he i think that's fair i i yeah i think he believes it now yeah where were you four years ago mr perm where were you four years ago come on yes i think that is entirely fair i i i'm a bit torn on it overall because I, first of all, really want, I would love to have another Elon Musk on our side.

Yeah, so whatever.

That would be great.

Yeah.

That would be great.

And I don't know if this is legitimate from him.

It could very well be.

Like, he's just seeing the writing on the wall.

He knows the next four years are going to be very Trump focused.

And

he better get back on board.

Yep.

You could see that.

It's probably the most likely.

Part of this.

Yes.

That being said, first of all, on that,

that's not necessarily bad.

You know, one of the reasons why you win elections is for things like this to happen.

Yeah.

Right.

Sure.

It's one of the reasons we organized and we all went out to vote.

I welcome we did all that.

I welcome it.

It's because of this, right?

Yeah.

You want the pressure on these guys to be towards sanity instead of insanity.

Right.

And

where like I'm at the point now with Elon Musk that I think he's had

a significant transition from where he was a while ago.

Because I was, just like with Zuckerberg here, I was very skeptical of the Elon Musk thing at the beginning.

I don't know what this guy's been telling me non-stop about global warming and how we have to build spaceships to avoid it for the last 10 years.

Why am I going to believe that all of a sudden he's some big conservative or whatever?

And I know

there's splits within the conservative movement over a lot of things that Elon Musk supports, but generally speaking, I think

what he's saying is real.

I think he's had this transition.

He really does believe a lot of these things.

And this is how it started with him.

And maybe this is a a start of it with Mark Zuckerberg.

I hope so.

I hope so.

But like, if it's not,

one of the reasons you go out there and you win elections is to change the tides.

The tides during the Biden administration, particularly early, were pulling people toward woke nonsense, woke craziness.

And all these companies were proudly touting their DEI initiatives.

They sure were.

And now they're dropping them.

And now they're dropping them.

Including Facebook.

Facebook, you know, McDonald's, Walmart, like huge brands.

While I think it's possible it's real with Zuckerberg on a change, I don't think it's possible that Walmart has had some big change.

I don't think that's what's happened here.

Walmart is just saying, like, okay, this is

doing us more harm than it is good.

So let's switch.

McDonald's.

There's like, why are we dealing with this?

Right.

Everyone told us this is going to make us look good.

And now it's pissing off more people than

it's helping us with.

So let's change it.

Like, those are corporate decisions.

And that's like the positive of winning an election and sending a message like that.

On the other hand, it could be that Zuckerberg really is having some sort of transition, you know, which is

the best case scenario.

Yeah.

It'd be great.

Great to have another person in that sort of powerful position who adopts and appreciates free speech.

But in the meantime, it would just be nice if they would allow free speech on Facebook.

Yeah.

Even if it's not real, even if it's a transition only for convenience

for Facebook for the next four years, that's okay too.

I'll take that too.

If you just don't, you know, stop censoring, stop squashing conservative thought.

And who decides, by the way, what's true and what's not?

Because

there's some differing opinions on that.

Really?

Yeah.

I haven't noticed that.

Are there some people who are still saying that water will put out fires?

I hope they're suppressing that.

Because that's crazy.

They should.

Yeah.

But I think that's true, Pat.

And it's like,

you know, you listen to the way Zuckerberg is talking.

We can play some more of the clips if we want, but like he was talking about how

we saw a real problem, which I think is real.

At the beginning of this, I think there really was a problem that tech companies could have helped solve in some way.

Like, I remember when the fake news term first started, it wasn't like, hey, people disagree on climate change, or hey, why aren't you saying that people can transition from one gender to the other with a series of magic words?

It wasn't that.

It was like someone would say,

you know, look at this.

This guy murdered 10 people last night and no one's doing anything.

And then you'd look at it and be like, this person is,

I think that's Robert Downey Jr.

That's not even like, what do you mean this person?

Like, it was just completely fake news.

People were just putting crazy stories out there that were just completely made up to get clicks.

And it was something that was hurting people's online experience because they would be like, oh my gosh, I'm outraged.

They would retweet it, they'd repost it.

And it would just be like some account trying to make money on totally fake news stories.

Just stuff they made up, not stuff that was politically disagreeable, just stuff that was not even political at all, just nonsense.

And so they wanted to try to crack down on that.

And like they went in the direction of fact checkers,

where Twitter/slash X and Elon Musk went in the direction of community notes.

And Community Notes is quite clearly a better system.

And it's been proven to be a better system.

And now Mark Zuckerberg, who very recently was in such a

blood brawl against Elon Musk that they were threatening to have a cage match against each other, is admitting that Twitter got it right and they got it wrong.

It's amazing, isn't it?

That had to be hard for him to do.

Yeah, it probably was.

It probably was.

And you're right.

Hats off to him for that.

That's good.

Now, we'll see.

The proofs of the pudding, right?

He's saying these things.

Like, now that he said these things, I've had several people reach out and say, like, I posted this and they took it down.

And I don't even think they've implemented any of these systems yet.

So I wouldn't be surprised if that stuff is still happening.

Yeah, probably.

But we will see over the next year or two

how loyal they are to this mission.

And it just would have been nice if it would have happened four years ago.

Yeah.

You know, stand up to the government.

You can't allow the government to tell you what to take off your website and what not to.

Yeah.

I honestly like the conversations with Zuckerberg, I listened to a decent amount of the Rogan one because I was curious to see how real this was.

And you came away thinking it was pretty real.

No, I wouldn't say that.

I think it's possible it's real is where I am with it.

The part of me that bothers me, and I think might be the same thing that's bothering you, is there wasn't, it wasn't a mea culpa.

It was an admission of what happened.

I really screwed up for four years.

Right.

He didn't say that.

Now he did say Twitter handled it better, which is kind of a meeting, I guess, sort of.

But it wasn't like, we, wow, we, I'm really sorry for those people who lost their accounts.

Which would make it more legitimate.

Yeah, it would be if he did that.

It was a much more of like, gosh, can you believe the government came after me?

And they said they wanted to take down things that were true.

And we said no.

Well, that's not how I remember it.

No.

Because that's not how it happened.

Yeah.

That's what.

I'm sure at times they did say no.

Yeah.

But generally speaking, they went along with this stuff for a really long time.

And it, Pat, destroyed people's businesses.

Right.

I got to believe.

Right.

I mean,

we live in this.

I gave up on Facebook because of it.

I mean, they just continued

to squash more and more of what we had to say on Facebook.

And so I just gave up eventually.

Glenn's talked about this publicly, that

the reach of his Facebook page is down by something like 90 or 95%.

And it was that way for all of us.

Yeah.

And they outwardly kind of told people,

we want you to see your friend's wedding photos, not take in news content.

Now, they're reversing that now, which I think, again, is good.

I just don't know if it's a real commitment because you have to have a real commitment.

There are ugly things that happen when you embrace free speech.

There are terrible things said on Twitter, and it's hard to defend them.

Yeah.

And it's hard to say, actually, our policy is to allow that terrible speech.

Our policy is to allow that terrible thing to be on the internet.

But that's the right thing to allow.

Yes.

You have to.

The only kind of speech that you need to have

protected is harmful or not necessarily harmful, but stuff people don't like.

Yeah.

It's easy to protect, you know,

basic speech.

Sunshine speech is easy.

I mean, nobody has to, nobody takes offense to it.

It's the stuff that's offensive that is difficult to protect, but that's what needs to be protected.

I think, too, Facebook has realized they're no longer relevant the way they were.

When they were allowing news content,

everyone, you know, people were talking about it.

People were on it.

They were sharing things.

And I think because they decided, hey, let's make this all about your friend's new job announcement, which again might be important if he's following your friend's life, of course.

But

it doesn't happen enough in people's lives for it to be, to make it a relevant place to go.

So younger generations completely abandon it in favor of TikTok and Snapchat.

Like MySpace.

Yeah.

And

it can happen to you.

You know, Facebook was able, I mean, the reason why it hasn't fully happened to Meta generally is because they keep buying all the competitions.

Yeah.

Right.

Like Instagram took over, but they own that.

And WhatsApp, but, but they own that.

And

that's smart, smart business, right?

Like, you know, buying up your competitions a smart part of business.

A friend of mine who's kind of a tech nerd had a theory.

And he was like, I think most likely it's just him.

you know, kowtowing to the Trump administration, you know, seeing, seeing the current, seeing the, you know, reading the room,

which is smart to do as a business person.

He's like, but I think there's a possibility that, you know, he's just kind of grown up.

You know, he is only 40, and we've, he's been in our lives so long

that you kind of, it kind of feels like he's been around forever.

Yeah, it does.

But he started this thing when he was in college.

Well,

he didn't start it.

He stole it when he was in college.

He stole it when he was in college back then.

Yes.

So he was young when he stole it.

He was younger when he

allegedly stole Facebook from the Winklevoss twins, who, by the way, have gone on to build a totally separate multi-billion dollar business of their own.

Congratulations to them.

Actually, pretty impressive guys.

They are.

They've been at the forefront of two separate revolutions.

It's incredible.

It's really incredible between crypto and

previous Facebook.

But

Zuckerberg obviously built this thing into a behemoth,

but he built that.

His argument was, and I think there's something to this maybe, that number one, this happened when he was very young.

He

was probably more likely to be pushed around by the government and pushed around by people around him telling him this is the way it should be, number one.

And number two, he sees himself as sort of this free speech libertarian guy in his words on like Rogan and these other statements, which sounds absurd to us.

Yes, it does.

But when you think about him

being in

this San Francisco tech bubble, he probably was the most libertarian guy around that he knew, or at least one of them.

He probably is to the right of most of the people he's been around his entire life.

Yeah.

Which is not.

Which is not right we are.

Right.

No, it's very left to us.

Yes.

But center left, if that's what he is, is like a hardcore conservative in this community.

Right.

With the exception of a few people like Musk and Peter Thiel.

There's some libertarians out there there and conservatives, but it's very few and far between.

And so the people who kind of like, hey, I think free speech, you know, I want a platform for that,

that may have been what he really saw himself as.

And maybe as he's growing up and he's, you know, seeing adulthood for what it is and seeing the government for what it is and seeing these pressures as what they are and these nonsensical leftists, like maybe he's seeing the light a little bit.

And that would be good.

It's possible.

Yeah, it's possible.

I mean, we can see it's possible to look at at this in a positive way, right?

Ben?

You could.

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You know, just to give credit where credit is due to Mark Zuckerberg, he did steal it, allegedly, from the Winklevoss twins out of Harvard.

Yes.

But you know what?

He had some real business acumen.

Had I stolen it, I wouldn't have really known what to do with it no i don't think so

really

thinks would have taken off no i don't think so uh but he turned it into a multi-billion dollar business and there's something to that you know same with bill gates yeah bill gates stole everything he ever had from xerox and ibm and turned it into a multi-billion dollar business so they're you know they're good businessmen i remember thinking when he was offered i don't know something like three or four billion dollars for facebook i remember that we were on the air together I think, talking about that.

Yep.

And I remember thinking, he's insane.

Yeah.

Why wouldn't you take that?

He turned it down.

And the reason he turned it down was he wanted to build what he wanted to build, which again kind of plays into what he's talking about now.

At the time, I thought it was insane because it could have been MySpace in six months and gone.

Right.

And be zero dollars.

And this has happened to a lot of people since.

But he bet on himself and it worked out.

And to say he had nothing to do with it, because

I think the Winklevoss twins got kind of the shaft shaft a little bit in the initial treatment of the Facebook story.

They were kind of like dopey frat brothers who had nothing to do.

They just had this with a stupid idea.

And so I was like, what was the name of the movie that kind of presented it that way?

And I think that's become the reality.

Yeah, the social network.

The social network.

Now, that's based on a book called The, I think it's called The Accidental Billionaires by Ben Mesrick.

And what's interesting is he wrote another book later on.

called

Bitcoin Billionaires, I think it's called.

It's something like that.

And it's about the Winklevoss twins basically after the Facebook fiasco.

Yeah.

And what are they worth?

65 billion now or something?

Something insane.

They bought

really, really low.

They saw the Bitcoin thing coming really, really early.

And they built a huge company based on it, Gemini, but also just bought a ton of Bitcoin and were trying to, you know, going around the world.

When all the fallout from the Facebook thing was happening, they were doing Bitcoin stuff and no one was paying attention to it because what the hell it was like, you know, you know, $10 at the time.

They

built, you know, helped build this thing, saw it very, very early.

And his book about

the Winklevoss twins, the Bitcoin one, is way more positive on them.

Like, it basically he kind of says, like, I saw them as sort of a joke in this first book.

And then I saw them and really understood what they were doing.

And now I'm really, really impressed by them.

Interesting.

Yeah.

I mean, it kind of

turned me around on them.

Cause I kind of thought, oh, God, they like to row.

I remember that from the movie.

They were rowing all the time.

They were kind of goofy twins.

That's how you thought.

And I

totally like the wrong read, I think, on them.

And it's all about rowing, Pat.

No, it wasn't all about rowing.

No, you don't make a billion dollars rowing.

There's very few professional rowers

who have maintained that kind of fortune.

That's really true.

Except in Norway.

I think there's a lot of billionaire rowers in Norway.

Filled with them.

But not here.

Filled with Norway's filled with them.

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Meantime, Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona says that TikTok will likely go dark in the United States next weekend.

Wow.

So they're going to shut it down.

Is that what that means?

Are they going to just turn off TikTok in the United States?

First of all, I hope they do.

I'd love that.

Because it's just so annoying.

I know it is.

That's separate from what is reality.

And that's not going to happen, right?

No, I don't, that's a terrible way of describing it.

Dark sounds like, okay, it's just gone, right?

It disappears from your phone or your iPad.

Yeah, like I think

that's the impression I would have of it, right?

Like if you told me that, I would think, I'm going to look down at my phone, which, by the way, it's going to look exactly the same as it does now, which is without the TikTok app.

Yeah.

But in theory, you'd look down at your phone if you had TikTok and you'd look down at it and it would not be there.

Or you'd click on it and it would not operate.

It would just be a blank screen.

That's what I would take from Kelly's description.

That's what it sounds like.

Of this.

That's not at all what's going to happen.

Now, if it goes through, again, this is the law.

You could still see some more challenges popping up.

Shockingly,

the Chinese

Communist Party does not necessarily want to give up control of all the minds of our children.

They were supposed to have to sell it to an American, right?

And that American would have control over all our children's minds.

Right, which is so much better.

So much better.

Because surely China can't find one American who would buy it and then just agree with them.

Not out of 339 million people.

No.

No.

No way can they find someone?

Because it's funny.

We're electing people to be president of the United States that are super friendly with China, as we did in 2020.

Well, if they were giving you $10 million, you'd be pretty friendly, too.

Oh, my gosh.

I would just sell this country.

$10 million.

$20.

Just sell this country right down the river to the Chinese Communist Party.

It's funny.

A lot of parents are doing it for free.

Yeah.

They're just like, hey, take my child's brain.

Why don't you manage their thoughts and aspirations instead of me?

I don't think TikTok is a good thing.

I don't think it is the type of thing that

benefits the country at all.

I wish it was never invented.

I can't believe how many homes it's in, right?

Like I can't I can't believe it.

Because it's what?

350 million subscribers or something like that?

That's massive.

It's huge.

If it's not the big, it's right up there as one of the biggest apps, and especially for younger kids who are on it all the time.

And honestly, there is a real

national security risk with letting the Chinese government run your kids' lives.

That's not necessarily a good policy.

One we might want to rethink going forward.

But secondarily, it's just so terrible for their attention spans.

It's so terrible for their brain.

It's just brain rot.

It's just not, I mean, that's not to say there's nothing good on it.

Like, you know, there are occasionally things.

I see them played from time to time on other social media platforms.

Like, I don't know, good recipes.

There's people that do productive things with it.

I'm always looking for a good recipe, too.

I guess

I should probably subscribe and download the app.

You're a big recipe guy.

Big recipe guy.

Huge.

You're Chef Pat.

I love you.

A good recipe guy.

You're always in that kitchen after the show, just baking up

a nice bisque.

Yep.

Oh, or maybe

a gumbo of sorts.

Do a recipe for pheasant under glass.

I'm always on the lookout.

It's weird.

Always.

A lot of people are going in there like microwaving cheeseburgers, and you're like, no, uh-uh.

You go for the whole thing.

Yeah.

So, I mean, but you know, there are people like, they have stuff like, you know, interior design or like life hacks.

I mean, there's stuff that's of value on it.

But, of course, they can find that anywhere.

You can find that.

Instagram, every other freaking social media.

As you point out with Mark Zuckerberg, who allegedly stole Facebook at the beginning, he's also allegedly stole Snapchat with

X with threads.

He allegedly stole

TikTok with Reels.

This stuff is available on 50 other things not controlled by the Communist Party of China.

But taking all that out for a second, what's actually going to happen with TikTok?

Basically, what they're going to do is it's not going to disappear from your phone.

It's not going to go.

It's not going to stop working.

It is basically the way the law is written is the app stores can no longer offer it

as an app.

So no new people could get on it in the app store.

Now, my understanding is you could probably just go to the website.

I don't know how they're stopping that, but you can't go to the app store, which is of course how most people use TikTok.

So you can't go to the app store and download it as a new app once they, once this goes through, if it goes through.

And secondarily,

there won't be any updates from TikTok.

So if Apple releases a new iOS, right, and they need new requirements in there,

your TikTok app might not work anymore, like the way it's supposed to.

If you download the new, the update from Apple.

Yeah, like once you get the new software, it's not going to work as well.

Yeah.

Now, you might be able to avoid that for a while.

If you remember Flappy Bird, remember this story from years ago?

Flappy Bird?

It was

a game that came out, super simple game where you just have to go in between pipes, your bird would have to, and you'd keep tapping the screen, and your bird would kind of go up, and you have to go in between these pipes.

It was a really stupid game.

It was very, very hard, very difficult.

And it was created by some guy, I don't know, in some place that I never want to visit,

and he wanted to do it, and people got really addicted to it and became super popular.

It went to like the top of the charts.

And he decided in the middle of the viral craziness that he thought it was becoming a bad influence on people.

People were playing it too much and he decided he didn't want it.

So he took it down just on his own, took it down from the app store.

And so if you had it on your phone already, you could keep playing it for as long as you wanted until

their updates made it irrelevant or something.

But it was still there.

If you deleted it, you couldn't redownload it, though.

And that will be the same with TikTok.

If you delete the thing, you're not going to be able to re-download it if all this stuff happens.

Which it may not.

It may not.

They may find some last-minute legal reprieve.

They may,

you know, they've gone through

a lot of their options, though.

It does seem like this is going to happen.

And, you know, I don't know.

Look, fewer people being on this is good for America

in every way imaginable.

And it might be bad for certain influencers.

And I do think that is, that really sucks.

Like, if you, you, if you built a business, you built a business on 10 million followers on TikTok, you'd probably have been smart enough to go over to Instagram and probably have built a good business over there or wherever else, too, to shield yourself, but maybe not.

And, you know, if you're making all of your money from TikTok, this is pretty rough on you.

And I don't generally like the idea of the government coming in and banning things after people that don't do their assistance.

But this is a little bit different.

I do think the national security risks are pretty high on this one.

Yeah.

It's coming from the CCP.

That's an issue.

That's a problem.

And there's all sorts of evidence that they are looking at this, that they are influencing what kind of content comes to us.

Like

they are intention.

Like you look at the stuff that comes, first of all, they don't let TikTok into China.

Tells you kind of a little bit.

TikTok, you cannot get it in China.

Yeah, that's amazing.

Because they know how bad it is for people.

They know

how terrible it is for a society.

They're poisoning us instead.

And so that's a terrible idea, but it's not going away.

Again, Reels is doing the exact same thing.

You know, the hope is that with an American force behind it, an American mindset behind it, at least they're not intentionally seeding

chaos.

At least they're not intentionally trying to put harmful things into

the American population, which I do think China is actively doing.

I mean, that's actually happening.

Yeah.

I think there's plenty of evidence to back that up.

Also, how good will it be for America if we take over Greenland?

I think it'd be really good.

I'm not sure we should just do it.

No, the president to be, the president-elect, didn't rule out military intervention.

I think that's just part of his negotiation process.

I don't think we would actually invade Greenland and take it over militarily.

But I do think he's serious about trying to acquire it from the Dutch.

I think that's real.

If he had possibly,

he would do it.

Yeah.

And Denmark is saying now they're apparently open to discussing a more prominent role for the U.S.

They say they don't want to sell it outright to us, but they're willing to talk about sharing it, which I think is pretty interesting.

They're trying to avoid a public dispute with the incoming Trump administration, though.

And they've sent messages to Trump officials offering a discussion on a new partnership regarding Greenland's future.

That's interesting.

Yeah.

I mean,

this is probably really what Trump is going for.

He probably doesn't think he can buy it outright, but wants to get a stronger foothold there.

He doesn't want China to get a stronger foothold there.

Yep.

And is negotiating.

This is, you know, this is the way he does it, it, whether you like it or not.

I will say this.

Just that he's able to get people talking.

And this is the most fascinating thing about Trump is just how he can come up with this idea that no one's talking about and wrestle the entire attention of the United States toward it.

It's incredible.

The New York Times even wrote a piece.

The headline was, How much would buying Greenland cost?

That's great.

Which is a great one.

Now,

I did this experiment with

one of the AI services and asked it how much would Greenland cost.

And it came up with something like, it was like, it could be anywhere from 50 billion to 1 trillion.

And Glenn's like, a trillion?

I'd do that in a second.

Let's do it.

We spend a trillion dollars on nothing all the time.

Let's go out in there and get Greenland.

No, Greenland's like as big, even it's like as big as the eastern seaboard of the United States.

It's gigantic.

Really big.

It looks bigger than it actually is on the map.

But it's big.

But it is still really, really big, even when you look at the proper perspective.

And it's got a lot of

precious minerals.

Yep.

It has a lot of stuff there that would be fun to have.

The strategic positioning is really important.

Yeah.

However, the New York Times asked an expert, David Barker, he's a real estate developer, former economist at the New York Fed, how much should it cost?

He had at one point

had talked about, he was, I guess, famous previously back in 2009.

He argued that the American purchase of Alaska in 1867 for less than two cents per acre was a bad deal from a purely financial investment perspective.

You think?

Yeah, that's fascinating.

I don't know.

I think it was a good buy.

I feel like two cents an acre was the right price.

But

he says a back of the napkin math for value in Greenland, which he bases on the purchase of the Virgin Islands.

So basically, kind of like projecting that into the future, looking at the changes of GDP, going through all of this.

He has the whole, they have the whole analysis in here.

But bottom line, at the end of it, comes out between $12.5 billion and $77 billion.

Oh, come on.

I'd pull the trigger on that.

I might buy it.

I might see if I can get a mortgage for that.

Yeah.

Just personally.

Let's see.

Let's see what.

Can we get American financing on the phone?

See if they'll give us $12.5 billion between Pat's Du and Glenn.

Maybe we can pull this thing off.

I don't know.

It'd probably be a high rate.

I mean, you can't

pass that up.

There's no, first of all, no way would they take $12 billion.

Imagine that.

They're like, yeah, $12 billion.

I mean, let's say it's $100 billion.

Let's say it's $500 billion.

Yes.

Wouldn't that be worth it?

It would be worth it.

And Denmark would really benefit from $500 billion.

I don't know what their GDP is, but it

can't be too much more than that.

Do you know the number off the top of your head, how much money we've given Ukraine?

I don't know it off the top of my head, but it's a lot.

According to some sources, it's like $250 billion.

I mean, that's like several salons.

Yeah.

Even at the high number of $77 billion.

I mean, I am all in at that price.

And I think like, you know, you kind of...

You kind of look at it like a baseball free agent.

Right now,

America's team, the Toronto Blue Jays, are trying um sign sign uh our my my my son's favorite player vladimir guerrero jr to a long-term contract and like they're they you know they negotiate like i think the blue jays have offered 340 million dollars for and uh wow and he wants 400 450 i think it's 10 years and he wants 450.

and it's like

guys

Nobody wants to come to your team.

You live in Canada.

No one wants to freaking deal with customs for every home trip.

No one wants to go up there and pay Trudeau's tax rate.

What you need to do to get a player of his caliber is pay a premium.

If he wants $450 million,

call him tomorrow and tell him you have $451 million and you're ready to sign it right now.

The same thing with this.

Same thing with Greenland.

Is there a possibility of just blowing them away with how much money we offer?

If they really only want $77 billion.

Offer him a trillion, see if they'll take it.

Yeah, but start a little lower.

But maybe start $500 billion.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I know it'd be a worthwhile purchase for you.

At least it would be something.

We're taking our money right now and making it explode in Russia.

Yep.

I mean, at least we get something serious out of it.

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We're just looking up

the GDP of Denmark, who has the rights right now to Greenland.

Their GDP

is $404.2 billion

last year.

$404.2.

We could easily

here's a year's gross domestic product for you for Greenland.

I'm looking at, yeah, the U.S.

GDP is $27.36 trillion.

I mean, is there anything we wouldn't sell for $27.36 trillion?

I don't think so.

Maybe not Texas.

Maybe you don't sell California or Texas for that.

Well, California.

I mean, probably.

probably something inside or the contiguous United States.

But I'd sell Alaska and a second for that.

Take it.

For $27 trillion?

You want Guam?

We'll throw in the Virgin Islands.

What do you want?

Yes.

What do you need for $27.36 trillion?

I'm in.

You could almost pay off the debt for that.

Yeah, I mean, that would be massive.

I imagine with Denmark.

I mean, it's got to be tempting for $404 billion.

Seriously, I would think it would be.

And, like, maybe keep a percentage of mineral rights or or something, like so you get ongoing revenue.

Mm-hmm.

They should totally sell us this.

What's going on?

Why aren't they doing it?

Denmark's stupid for not doing it.

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Now, he could have done that.

Well, yeah, but

he couldn't have.

Because he had to leave.

They told him he had to leave.

Nancy Pelosi said,

What did she say?

You can't stay anymore.

Oh.

Because

we don't want you to be the candidate.

So then he, as the most powerful person in the world, needed to fold to her demands.

Right.

Right.

Doesn't make a lot of sense, does it?

No, not really.

Frankly, I don't believe he would have won.

I think he would have lost by more than Kamala did.

But he could have stayed in the race if he really thought he had a great chance to win.

I tend to think that's true.

I think she probably did do better than he would have done.

However, I will say,

what a lot.

I mean, I would say it would be a lifetime of regret, though there's, you know, unfortunately for Joe at his age, maybe not all that much time to regret it.

That being said, you know,

he won the primary, Pat.

Yeah.

I don't know if people remember this.

At least 14 million people voted for him.

That was 14 million people more than voted for Kamala Harris.

So that seems to be somewhat significant.

Yeah.

He won.

I mean, think about this.

His entire life.

This is why I was relatively convinced, even at the heights of these pressures, that he was like, not going to, at the end of the day, he's not going to give this up.

He ran for Senate when he was younger than the allowed age.

His first run.

He had to turn, was it 30?

He had to turn 30 so that he could be allowed into the Senate after he was elected.

He was in the election.

His birthday is November 20th.

Obviously, the election was held before that.

Right.

And then

that was 1972, if I'm getting my years right.

It's been a while.

But I think it was 1972.

I think it was.

Then

just 16 years later, which again

is less than three terms, he's already running for president.

Like, that's how how fast he went.

Now, that's not Barack Obama fast, but that's fast.

He was, you know, not an old gentleman running for president in 1988, then had that campaign blow up over the censor, the plagiarism scandal.

Yeah.

Then waited another 20 years, stayed in the Senate that entire time, waited another 20 years, ran again, again was

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And he didn't think that the American people could accept two exotics, was the quote, exotics

on the ticket.

Oh my God.

They couldn't handle it.

They had to have at least one white person on there.

Yeah.

And they needed someone who was white and old, is what he wanted.

Someone who was apparently a racist who had said things like this.

After you got the first

sort of mainstream African American

who is articulate and bright and

clean, nice looking guy.

I mean it's that's a storybook.

Storybook.

He actually took a shower from time to time this guy.

Really?

Actually took a shower.

Can you imagine a storybook?

African American.

It's a

storybook.

It's a storybook.

It's basically.

That doesn't happen.

It's a fairy tale.

Essentially.

Yeah.

It's right out of a novel.

You know, know you just uh it's incredible we forget sometimes that that was 2008 how was that said i don't know how was something like that said i don't know and he survived it and he survived it and that guy he was saying it about

i mean this might now now that i'm thinking about it maybe this is a requirement of becoming the democratic vice presidential nominee because the same thing happened with kamala kamala called biden racist and then she got the gig Maybe this is what you're supposed to do.

You have to call the top of the ticket racist.

And then they feel so bad about it that they have to come back to you and say, well, you know,

why don't you join me?

Yeah, yeah.

This is like the ultimate thing.

Join me.

Because it proves that I can get those racist votes.

And that's really what Barack Obama was doing with Biden, was he believed the American people were racists.

This is the, if you go back to his comments on the Pennsylvania radio station, you know, people clinging to their gods and their guns,

the people clinging to, you know, the, I can't remember the word he used, but the hatred.

It was basically basically the dislike for people who didn't look like them.

That's how he saw the people of America.

It's going to be hard enough for them to get over a name like Barack Obama, a weird name, a funny name, as he called it.

And someone with dark skin to elect them, the only way they'll do it is if you have a really boring old white guy on the ticket.

And that's why Joe Biden got the gig in the first place.

His career is resurrected.

Then again, he has an opportunity in 2016 to run against Donald Trump, a guy he thinks he can absolutely, he doesn't know it's Trump at the time when he makes the decision to not run, but someone, he believes he can beat anybody in that Republican field.

He has the death of his son he's dealing with, and Barack Obama comes to him and tells him, Joey, don't do it.

And he doesn't do it.

Hillary Clinton runs and loses to Trump.

So he sees this as a major mistake in his life

of not running.

He should have done it.

Comes back in 2020, runs, is

absolutely toast in that campaign.

What did he finish, like seventh in New Hampshire?

I mean, he was way down the place.

Yeah, he was.

I don't remember exactly what it was, but he was a disaster in both.

James Clyburn saved him.

Yeah.

Clyburn saved him in South Carolina after he had lost all the previous

opportunities.

He then turns it all around.

And who knows what would have happened if COVID didn't happen?

Because basically they just kind of ended the campaign.

You know, Sanders, who obviously kept challenging Clinton forever, basically gave up because they couldn't really have elections at that time.

This is like peak lockdown period.

So they stop the campaign.

He gets the presidency.

He gets in there.

He has four years.

He wins the primary to run again and then they take it away from him.

I still to this day I can't believe he gave it up.

Yeah.

Why would he live?

Why would you care what Nancy Pelosi or Barack Obama say about your presidency?

Who cares what they say?

Just stick with it.

Unless they're really the ones in charge.

I guess that's the truth, right?

I guess.

At some level, because it made no sense for him to give it up.

It didn't.

No, it didn't.

Something he wanted his entire life and had.

And then he won the primary.

And then he gave up the presidency, really for no reason, because, you know, at the end of the day, yes, he would have lost, but so did she.

And maybe he would have lost worse.

But I think in your own mind, it's hard to convince yourself of that, right?

I think in your own mind, you're probably like, I can do this.

I beat this guy last time.

Yeah.

You know, I think that's in your head.

He had an interesting answer to the question, though, would you have what was the, it was something like, would you have survived the entire four years?

It was like he's like, are you going to live?

Are you going to be alive the whole time?

Who knows?

Was his answer to that?

Yeah.

Not confident.

Who knows?

Yeah.

So who knows?

Who knows?

And maybe that, maybe that figured into his decision.

I don't think so.

He had already won the primary pack.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He'd already come.

He already made the decision that he was going to...

He was going to be there for another four years.

And

we can look at this world the way it is now, where the media turned on him.

they pressured him, they tried to get him out because they thought he had no chance of winning, which is probably true.

And they thought Kamala did have a chance of winning, which is actually arguably true too.

I mean, you know, she was in a position where she was leading in the polls at one point.

It was a close election.

I mean, we look back at it and we think, oh, there were seven swing states and Trump won them all.

Therefore, it was a blowout.

But really, I mean, you know, she needed to win three blue wall states, which she didn't win.

The biggest blowout of those three states was two points.

So, I mean, this is,

again, Trump needed to win one of those states.

The biggest blowout was two points.

It was not that big of a margin.

So at the end of the day, you think he's thinking he could have won that.

And I do think

if he had stayed, the media would have figured out a way to say, you know what?

Actually, maybe he is sharper than we ever thought.

They would have come back around.

It would have been absurd.

And I don't think the American people would have bought it, but they would have come up with arguments as to why you asked you should elect this person we were telling you was completely incompetent just three weeks ago.

They would have done it.

They would have turned around and they would have figured out ways to support him.

Just based on their Trump hatred, that would have happened.

Yep.

They would have just lied.

Just like they were lying.

And every day up until that debate,

they would have switched back.

And they would have found suddenly some doctor who says, actually, what we've discovered is he's the reason why he seems to stumble is because he's so much smarter than everyone else.

He's got nine thoughts going on at the same time.

He's solved.

He told you he's going to cure cancer.

He only needs one more term to do that.

By the way, has Joe Biden cured cancer.com?

Has Joe Biden cured?

Well, I'm sure by now he has, right?

Because he's only got a week left.

Joe Biden.com.

I'm nervous.

It's one week from today.

He's out of office, so he's got this week left.

Oh, God, I have bad news.

Oh, no.

Has Joe Biden cured cancer.com?

The answer?

No.

Cancer still exists as of Monday, January 13th.

Jeez.

That's terrible news.

He's only got a week.

I hope he's got some.

Terrible.

He does have some speeches scheduled for this week.

Yeah.

Okay, so we're going to announce the new cure.

Maybe one of them is announcing the new cure.

That would be nice.

You know, he should have done that before the election because I think he would have helped.

He would have won.

If he cured cancer, I think.

He might have voted for him had he cured cancer.

Yeah.

You know?

That would be quite the accomplishment.

Yeah.

That's a big accomplishment.

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Hear that eagle noise?

Uh-huh.

The eagle noise in there?

Yeah.

Yeah.

just a reminder that the Eagles defeated the Green Bay Packers yesterday.

That's just your reminder.

Thanks for that reminder.

You're welcome.

Really important.

Yeah, well, as a conference,

I want to make sure

you've been reminded.

Each time you hear

that soaring eagle make a little noise here on the program, you can be reminded of that response.

I've already made the shift in my mind.

I'm now rooting for the Buffalo Bills.

Oh, really?

And

the Buffalo Bills.

I think I'd like to see the Bills win.

I mean, it would be nice for them to get them.

They'd get one.

It'd be nice.

It would be nice for them to get one.

I love the Buffalo fans.

They're kind of awesome.

They will power through anything.

Again,

not the Eagles.

I think I'm with you on that.

I'm trying to think off the top of my head if that's true.

And certainly don't want the Commanders to win.

Oh.

Don't want the Rams.

The Vikings are another one who are in that same sort of boat.

They've never had one.

Never had one.

They've been there.

But they've never won.

Never won.

So that's tough.

Of course, the Bills have been there.

No, wait a minute.

No, wait a minute.

The Texans have been there.

I got to say it there.

It's got to be the Lions, I think, for me.

Really?

Oh, okay.

I got to say,

I've never even been there.

Yes, that's true.

And neither have the Texans.

Yeah, the Texans, of course, are new, newish.

However, that's not a surprise.

Houston's franchise has never been to the Super Bowl.

Oilers or Texans?

Yeah.

Never been.

So they've been, I guess,

a lot of teams here.

This is crazy.

The Eagles are the veterans.

I felt like they never won the Super Bowl forever.

Now they've got one.

Yeah.

And this year, you're right.

Gosh.

So the one I think now, other than Glenn, who's normally sitting in your chair, Pat,

the Chiefs, if you're not a Chiefs fan, it's kind of tough to, I mean, they've been so good.

I don't think I want that happening again.

I can't see that.

And why, I mean, Glenn wants the Chiefs.

He's become a Chiefs fan.

Is that because of

Andy Reid?

I think it's Andy Reid mainly.

You know, and I will say, like, for a while, it was just Glenn sort of like liking Andy Reid generally and wanting to torture me because they beat the Eagles.

Right.

There was some of that going on.

I think he's actually kind of turned into a football fan a little bit.

He actually watches football now.

No.

It's weird.

He brings up points and they're like coherent.

No.

Yeah.

It's weird, man.

That is weird.

Yeah.

You should have him on to just talk football one morning.

He's supposed to be back tomorrow.

We hope he's recovering from something.

You should have him on one morning just to talk football.

Just talk sports.

I will say it's not going to be the most in-depth football conversation you've ever had.

I'm sure.

But

he'll make observations that you can tell what he's talking about now.

Seriously?

Yeah.

You're like, oh, yeah, I saw that.

I saw that.

Like, you used the right term for that particular play.

Like, it's.

No way.

Yeah.

Okay.

I'm going to have to hear it to believe it.

It's getting better.

I'm not going to say he's mastered it, but it's getting a lot better.

Okay.

Impressive.

All right.

So, what do you think of the daylight savings time becoming permanent?

So we never switch back to standard time.

What I would prefer is standard time and never switch to daylight saving time.

Why?

But I take either one of them.

I just prefer standard time because then you don't have,

it doesn't stay light during the summer until like 10 o'clock in the north and 9 o'clock in the south.

Yeah, I will say, as a parent,

I noticed that difference because your kid doesn't want to go to bed

when it's bright light outside, right?

They're like, why am I going to bed?

And you're like, okay, you're six.

You need to go to bed.

During the summer, when I'm still working,

I have to go to bed when it's light, you know, because I get up at three in the morning.

So

it's still very light outside when I go to bed.

That's got to be hell.

Three o'clock in the morning, you get up?

Uh-huh.

Good.

I mean, I know your show starts.

Pat Gray Unleashed, by the way, on Belize TV.

You should check that out.

Watch it.

Subscribe to the podcast.

But you don't have to, to hear the podcast, you don't don't have to get up at three in the morning.

You just listen to it when you want to listen to it.

Right.

Yes.

You unfortunately have to get up that early to put it all together.

Right.

I don't have that option.

So

3 o'clock is really early.

It's early.

Yeah.

It's the middle of the night.

I think people would understand if you just woke up about half an hour before the show.

You know,

you wake up a half hour before the show, run right in, just start talking.

You know, I think people would understand.

They don't want you getting up at three, Pat.

That's crazy.

It is.

It is crazy.

Maybe I'll try that.

Yeah, see what they say.

At least run it by them.

Can you tell the difference that I just got here?

I didn't prepare as opposed to three hours ago.

I forgot to prep any news stories for the show today, but so what?

So, what do you think of the daylight saving time going away and just having one time, and we don't switch back and forth anymore?

It's one of those things that I'm in favor of happening, whether it has positive results or not.

Me too.

Because I just can't get over the bizarre idea that we just change the time.

I know.

It's inexpensive.

It's weird.

Well, yeah, we want more hours.

Okay, well, then just wake up earlier.

Like,

Glenn kept saying, like, yeah, but, you know, farmers need more light in certain times.

And I go,

it's 1930.

Yeah, well, yes, but also the light is still there.

It's not going anywhere.

It's just a matter of when you decide what the number says when you wake up.

That is true.

That is true.

All we have to do is just adjust the time we wake up.

We'll have the same amount.

You can wake up whenever you want.

Pat wakes up at 3 o'clock in the morning because he's insane.

You can do that too if you really want to see it all.

or you can wake up later.

Yeah.

Like

the number on the clock makes no difference with how much light there is.

The light is all there, whether it's like it doesn't change the sun.

No, the sun has a routine.

Yes.

And that doesn't change the cloud.

It doesn't change.

It doesn't change the clock.

Exactly.

Yeah.

That's right.

That is true.

And I can't get over like it's, you know what I compare it to, Pat, is

the thing they've done in Major League Baseball where they just plant someone on second base in extra innings.

They're like, oh, it's a

mystery ghost runner at second now.

And like the guy who got made the last out in the last inning just appears on second at the beginning of the inning.

It's like, I don't care if it makes the game better.

It's dumb.

It is.

You don't just place people on bases.

That's not the sport at all.

I feel the same way about the new kickoff rule in the NFL.

I hate it.

It's so

stupid.

It looks stupid.

It's a little different because it's just kind of adjusting the rules.

It's not necessarily like

like inserting something from out of nowhere.

Yeah, but I just don't like it.

I mean, so in that part of it is just traditionalist, but also it's just like

we time is a measure.

Like we use that as a scientific measure.

You can't just change the numbers.

What are you talking about?

Like it drives me crazy.

So for that perspective, I am all it.

You know,

I just don't, I don't like it.

I don't, I don't like the changing the clock thing.

It doesn't make any sense to me.

Just keep the clock the same and then change when you wake up if you you really want to wake up at a different time.

You want more hours in the day.

You get up earlier.

There's never more.

You can't make more hours.

There's not more hours in the day.

It's the same amount of hours in the day.

What?

It's just a matter of what you're calling it.

But when did that start, though?

Always.

It's just like fire has always been able to be put out by water.

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Meantime, on Friday, the big

sentencing thing came down

from Judge Marshawn.

And what a sentencing it was.

Oh, he's powerful.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No jail

and no penalty.

So

what was this 34, 36 felony thing all about again?

What a waste of time.

You say no penalty, but you forgot about the unqualified dismissal.

Yeah.

So

he had to leave without any qualifications.

Right.

So

you say no punishment.

Imagine walking out of there and thinking, gosh, I wish I had some qualifications to this departure.

I don't know.

And you had none.

You didn't get that.

You had none.

Well, it could be good qualifications.

But what if it was something like

you must receive a massage?

And he didn't get that.

And he didn't get that.

No.

Yeah, okay.

He didn't get that at all.

I can see where that might be a problem because he did not get that.

He did not get a massage before he left.

No.

As far as I know, he got nothing of the sort.

He just had to leave

as if none of this happened, which is fascinating considering we spent millions and millions of dollars on it.

And how much time and effort went into

screaming about this guy?

He's a felon.

He's a convicted felon.

Is he?

Is he?

Is he really?

Really?

Is anyone impressed by that?

I can tell you by the election results, the answer to that was no.

No.

Nobody was.

Even CNN did a segment the other, I think, last week, with Harry Anton, who does all their number stuff.

He's actually safe.

Yeah, it's good.

And he was saying

that

5%

of voters saw January 6th as the defining moment of the first Trump term.

5%.

And you think about that, and you're just like, gosh, 5%.

Wow.

They put so much effort into making the entire election about that one day.

Yeah.

About January 6th, January 6th, January 6th.

They did it over and over and over and over again.

They put all that effort in.

And while the one you're talking about, the one he was convicted on,

was not specifically related to January 6th,

most of the other stuff was, most of the other legal attempts.

And they put all their eggs in that basket.

They failed on every count except this one, which was in a far-left district, which they manipulated every rule to get this conviction, including the statute of limitations.

And it meant nothing.

They got nothing out of it.

They totally

blew it.

I love it.

I love that.

I love it too.

I'm glad they failed.

I'm glad this approach failed.

I'm glad lawfare is showing to be a failure.

But it does destroy people's lives.

I mean, Trump luckily does have the resources and the support behind him to do this.

But I mean, look at the people who bake cakes and won't bake cakes for certain you know, events they don't agree with.

Like those people, you know, their lives get destroyed.

Right.

You know, and luckily we hear about some of them, but we don't hear about enough of them.

J.D.

Vance said something interesting about the J-6 pardons, which are supposed to happen starting this coming Monday when Trump is inaugurated.

And here's what he had to say about the pardons.

January 6th pardons, President Trump says there's a process.

Where is the line drawn on who will and wouldn't be considered for a pardon?

I think it's very simple.

Look, if you protested peacefully on January the 6th and you've had Merritt Garland's Department of Justice treat you like a gang member, you should be pardoned.

If you committed violence on that day, obviously you shouldn't be pardoned.

And there's a little bit of a gray area there, but we're very much committed to seeing the equal administration of law.

And there are a lot of people we think in the wake of January the 6th who were prosecuted unfairly.

We need to rectify that.

Yeah.

Yeah, we do.

There's a lot of people who weren't even there

that were were sentenced to really egregious penalties in prison.

There were people who didn't go into the building who were sentenced.

There are journalists who currently work at the Blaze, who weren't working at the Blaze then.

Our friend Steve Baker,

who

was,

I guess, pled guilty

to

being in the Capitol, which, I mean, he was.

He was there.

He's on camera.

He's doing things that journalists do in these situations.

There were, by the way, plenty of other journalists in in this building that didn't get charged.

It was okay if you were the New York Times to go into the building and take photos.

We won awards for it.

Right.

Steve's reporting apparently did not agree with the narrative that he was supposed to.

So he got charged.

So I think, I mean, look,

tell me what you think of this because I think.

We had a guest on who was a victim of some of this.

I don't know his entire situation, but he was.

You did hear this.

Yeah, I heard that.

And he was like, basically, even the people who are charged

with violent crimes should be pardoned.

And there's a big push from.

Inside of the fruit from the poison tree, right?

That's sort of his argument that the whole thing was

iffy.

And so all, everybody who was convicted should be set free.

And I understand that thought.

I tend to be more on the J.D.

Vance side, though, of things.

I thought you probably would be.

If we, you know, I've had

relatives who were police officers.

If you're hitting a police officer over the head with a flagpole, I don't care how many times you tell me that

there were FBI informants who were trying to make the event worse.

If you did it with your flagpole to a police officer's head, I don't want you released.

What if I did it in his ribs?

What if I hit him in the ribs with my flagpole?

No.

No.

No.

Don't try to injure police officers.

If you would.

That's fair.

I know.

That's fair.

It's a big ask

but like i that like okay but let me ask you this is four years enough time if i hit some police officer in the head with a poll yes probably yeah i mean i i thought about it this way like because that's why i think yeah they say insurrection right they say uh the day democracy almost died

january 6th worse than the civil war worse than world war ii uh-huh obviously all that's ridiculous what was that day it was a riot it was a riot it was a riot and like if you think of like i was thinking about another riot that would happen, right?

Like, if there was a gigantic bar brawl at a biker bar and police showed up and the biker bar, you know, it got out of control and a couple of the bikers wound up hitting police in the head with a nearby flagpole, which was just sitting by for whatever reason.

It's a beer bottle.

Hit a bottle over the head.

What should happen in that situation?

That person should go to jail.

They're going to serve a term.

Should they serve 24 years?

No.

Probably not.

I know.

My guess is it's probably, I mean, obviously, if you murder somebody or something, that's not what we're talking about here.

That's different.

That's different.

If you have

a police officer,

you should face a penalty, in my view, and you should serve that penalty.

Yes.

That penalty is probably, and I'd have to look it up, but probably not four years.

I remember doing...

Almost certainly not.

I remember in one of Glenn's books, and I remember doing the research for it and being shocked by it and having to check it so many times.

But like convicted child molesters often serve less than three years in prison.

Yeah.

You know, it's like, that's definitely worse than anything that happened on January 6th, molesting a child.

Can we agree on that part of it?

I don't know.

Maybe the left can't.

But I think that's pretty clear.

So I don't necessarily think.

Now, there are, there may be a few people who deserve longer terms.

There is some evidence that some people really were trying to do terrible things.

And I think that that's something you have to look at on a case-by-case basis.

But I think rationally, people who did not commit violent crimes certainly have

served their term.

Steve Baker wasn't doing anything wrong at all.

When every minute of him being in that building is on film, you can look at exactly what he did, which was reporting.

Absolutely should not be facing a crime like that.

You know, what I've read,

Jay Johnston, the actor, who

is a sketch,

he was on Mr.

Show.

He was on Bob's Burgers.

Several other shows.

Very funny guy.

I mean, one of the most talented, I think, one of the most talented sketch comedy shows there's ever,

sketch comedy actors there's ever been.

He was there, and he was in the building for a few minutes.

What they say is

he helped wash.

One of the things they charge him with is helping wash the eyes of someone who got hit with pepper spray.

He helped like...

How dare he?

How dare he, right?

That's what they say.

They say he pushed.

They say he participated in pushing back in one of the

scuffles.

I don't know.

I haven't seen the video of it.

I don't know.

If he really did something terrible,

he should serve his term.

I don't think he does, though.

And how much time for you?

Hey, Jay Johnston.

What?

How much time?

I don't remember.

I don't remember off the top of my head.

It was.

I mean,

I will say a lot of these terms were not 24 years.

It is important to know a lot of people.

There are only a few that got that kind of sentence.

Who have had jail time have already served it and are out.

Yeah.

There are a lot of people on that sentence.

Like the guy that you guys talked to last week.

Yeah.

So that has happened too.

It's important.

But he was in solitary confinement for four months.

Right, that's nuts.

I mean, that's insane.

That has to be recognized.

He didn't do anything violent.

He's in solitary confinement for

four months.

You know, the Oath Keepers trial, which is one that Steve covered, Steve Baker covered, where a lot of these guys,

the people who were accusing them of what they did with these.

And this is why you have to be careful with what I'm saying about violent crimes.

People were saying they were violent against police officers, and then the video didn't back it up.

They didn't have the video to defend themselves.

However, the government wouldn't give it to them.

Unbelievable.

We now know that they weren't even in the place they said that they that the accusers said they were.

Was it the head of the Proud Boys or was it the Oath Keepers that was in Baltimore, Maryland?

Yeah, that's the at the time.

The Proud Boys guys was not there.

Now, they have a lot of

text messages and stuff from him, potentially.

Their argument is that he was helping arrange some of these activities, which again could be seen as a more serious crime.

24 years seems 24 years.

Yeah.

Yeah, it does.

But again, you know, he was one of the,

I mean, even taking out the leadership of some of these organizations, because that can get a little squirrely with other stuff.

A lot of these people just showed up to hear a speech and walked into a building.

It's absurd that this is still going on.

Yeah.

And I think, so I think.

It's a building that our taxpayer dollars pay for, too, by the way.

And should they have interrupted the natural process?

No, they shouldn't have.

No.

No, they shouldn't have.

We've covered that widely.

Yeah.

I mean,

it's pretty clear.

Do you have a problem with what J.D.

Vance said there?

Only that

it depends on who he's talking about.

Yeah.

But that's what he's saying.

He's saying it depends.

On a case-by-case basis.

And he even said with the violent crimes, there is some gray area there, which is

because some of the crimes that were supposedly violent, you know, like I, I don't know if Jay Johnson was included in this, but like they talked about him.

It was a, you know, one of those situations where groups of people were pushing against each other and he, quote unquote, participated.

I believe it says in the charges for a few seconds.

Now, okay, I don't know.

Maybe you shouldn't.

Okay.

But like, is that a violent crime?

I would argue no.

No.

But I, you know, so I don't know how many of those are included in that.

You, you, probably a lot.

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Take a few, they should be doing this already, but take a few weeks.

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That's how you do it.

Hopefully they've done that.

And they probably could have that done already, or they could assign someone immediately the second they get into office to look at it and get this right.

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All right.

Welcome.

I guess we're completely out in left field on the daylight savings situation.

I would not say that at all.

You wouldn't say that?

There are a couple people who are upset with us, though.

Uh-oh.

Oh, no.

Bobby,

we're on X at Stu Does America.

Okay.

At Pat Unleashed, I believe.

I believe so.

Check it out there.

But someone says, Bobby says, hey, someone please educate Pat and Stu on why we have daylight savings time.

Oh, okay.

It's so that it's light outside when school children go to the bus stop in the morning.

On standard time, it's still dark and less safe for children.

Wait a minute.

Okay.

What time are your kids going to school on standard time?

Four?

Very early.

Three?

I mean, I can remember it being, you know, it's dark sometimes in the mornings.

If they're at five in the morning, uh, by six, even in Texas, it's get it's light outside.

Are your kids lining up at the bus stop at six in the morning?

I don't think so.

It's like a Taylor Swift concert.

They get up there very early, Pat.

Okay.

Well, here's the other thing I would bring up, because there's two options here.

Yeah.

One is we can do the daylight savings time approach in which we just tell everyone that the time is mysteriously changed by an hour twice a year.

So all of society goes to their clocks and changes their clocks, and we act as if this scientific measure of time changes twice a year for no reason.

Okay.

Or the other option is an alternative.

Yes, the other option is your school opens an hour later.

Different.

A little hour later.

Right.

So like instead of going at eight, at eight, they just call at nine.

You'd still be going at the same time in both scenarios.

Right.

Because it time is like a scientific measure, but we call it different things.

And in this period, we would just call it, what you would do is just say, hey, just go an hour later.

The school school just changes the schedule.

That's important.

So school changes it twice a year.

Or all of society bends for kids at school buses stops.

I don't know.

One of the changes.

Again, I don't know that you're really, are they getting there that early in the morning?

I don't.

I have not.

I don't know.

I mean, maybe school starts at three for some people.

I don't know.

It does.

I don't know.

Maybe the bus shows up really, really early.

How about this one?

Daylight savings all year so we can drive home from work when it's still daylight.

My understanding is you could drive at night.

Yeah, like there's lights lights on the front of your car

that allow for such things.

But like another thing you could do is just change the hours of your if you really are that worried about driving home at night, you could just just change your hours and drive home during the day.

And you can see, and your employer won't change his hours.

Well, why would the whole country bend for this?

Everyone, Arizona's like, screw it, we're not doing it.

Right.

And that's the only sane approach.

Arizona is the only one that makes any sense to me.

That's why sometimes they're on Pacific Time, sometimes they're on mountain time.

Right.

And they're just like screwing it.

We don't care if it screws everybody else.

I think there's a portion of Indiana that does the same thing.

All right, Glenn should be back tomorrow.

This is Glenn back.