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There are a lot of things that we have to address, and we're going to start

in the desert, end up by the end of the hour in the swamps of Louisiana and New Orleans, the terror attacks, perspective and things not said or left unsaid are going to be said this hour.

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Stu, I haven't seen you.

It seems like forever.

It does seem like a really long time.

Yes.

Welcome back.

Happy New Year.

Thank you very much.

So there's a lot that has happened in the last couple of weeks since I've been gone, and I want to start with the

terror attacks.

But I want you to know there is a theme to today's show, January 6th.

The theme is,

you've been lied to, and it is time for us now to sort through everything and find out what's true and what isn't true.

So.

Let's dive into something that we begin with.

It sounds like science fiction.

In fact, the next two hours are going to sound like science fiction to you.

But even if a fraction of this is true, it is not only real, but it is also deeply alarming.

It's about power, it's about secrecy,

and those in the know that have kept the truth hidden from us, not just from you and me, but from the very people sworn to protect our way of life.

So let me start with the source of what I'm going to tell you about.

It's a manifesto that comes from the guy who was claiming to be a whistleblower.

He claimed to be a man on the run, hunted by his own government, he said.

He blew himself up, apparently, in a Tesla near the front door of the Trump Hotel in Vegas.

Now,

why would he do that?

He said because the government has been lying to us.

I'm not going to give you the guy's name because I don't want to make him famous.

And I hate, we usually don't read manifestos on the air, and I'm going to give you the summary of it.

But if any of this is true, it needs to be released.

We need to stand up and say, we need to know the truth on this.

Because if what he's saying is accurate, it changes everything.

Now, if you read the manifesto, he talks about gravitic propulsion systems.

What is that?

It's not your average stealth fighter or next-gen drone.

We're talking about aircraft that allegedly manipulate gravity itself.

Gravity.

It manipulates it to achieve flight.

It's a concept that defies all current physics, but it's not without precedent in speculative science.

Now, what this means is no combustion engine, no jet fuel, no sound barrier, just seamless, silent motion at unimaginable speeds.

The kind of technology that makes radar, heat signatures, and even conventional missile defense systems completely obsolete.

Now,

I know this sounds crazy,

but there was a very little known announcement, kind of, that happened over the weekend.

that no one is talking about and it is the biggest

news story of possibly all human history

so hear me out on this now according to the manifesto the aircraft are actively being deployed both in the united states and china and not just as prototypes in some secret desert lab but operationally Apparently, he alluded to the fact that this is what we're seeing with the drones.

The whistleblower claimed that China has been launching these systems from submarines stationed in the Atlantic right off our east coast.

Now let that sink in for a minute.

If this is true, silent, undetectable aircraft capable of carrying massive payloads launched from submarines that can remain undetected just miles from our shores or even up above the White House.

and no one would know.

Now, he claimed that he had direct knowledge of these programs.

He says they have been used in China for years, conducting intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance operations.

It goes along with our spy balloon.

You remember the spy balloon?

He says these gravitic systems are integrated with that same network and they form a system of surveillance that is so advanced, he says it makes our current intelligence look like carrier pigeons.

So

he says that these are the greatest national security threat in history.

And if we do have gravitic aircraft or China does, he is absolutely right because

it would bypass every single defense system that we have.

Imagine an aircraft with an unlimited payload capacity.

a floating fortress, invisible, undetectable, capable of delivering weapons or conducting surveillance, parked over our capital in D.C.

That would be checkmate if it was true.

That's the reality that this whistleblower says is there.

But it also,

in the manifesto, he dives into the past, into what he says is a dark chapter of the U.S.

military history.

He alleges involvement in war crimes during airstrikes in Nimruz province in Afghanistan in 2019.

According to him, 125 buildings were targeted, 65 struck, resulted in hundreds of civilian deaths in a single day.

Now, he says that the strikes continued even after civilians were spotted, knowingly and deliberately.

He calls it a cover-up.

However, We do know that the United Nations invested this event did happen and an investigation happened with the United Nations.

He says it's all a cover-up implicating the Department of Defense, the DEA, the CIA, and even high-ranking

generals.

So he's not just talking about

our national security being challenged by advanced technology.

He is also discussing the moral rot that comes from operating in secrecy.

Even if, let's just say, none of this is true,

This is allowed to take root because

everyone has kept too much secret and our government has lied to us.

Now,

he went on to say

he believed he was being hunted, not just followed, but actively pursued by his own government, tracked by Homeland Security, the FBI, or some other federal agency.

Is that true?

I don't know.

Could it be?

Tulsi Gabbard was on the no-fly list.

Now think of the insanity

or the desperation that would lead somebody to a point to where he prepared,

you know, an IED in a vehicle.

Insane, right?

So who is he?

Does he have any credibility?

Or is he just some conspiracy theorist in the basement or a deeply disturbed military guy?

Well, he claims to have worked with high-ranking officials, including General Miller's staff.

He even named specific operations and personnel.

Those are easily verified.

Now, if he's lying, it's a pretty detailed lie.

If he's not,

well, then are we in serious trouble?

Now, my guess is he has multiple valor awards.

So he was a special operations guy.

If you have that many valor awards, you probably have TBI.

You don't have to, but you probably had some traumatic brain injuries.

We also don't still understand

what

Biden's disastrous Afghanistan screw-up has done mentally to our frontline war heroes.

Many of them have been

possibly permanently screwed up over all of this.

He was being treated for

PTSD.

So we know that he had a mental issue of PTSD.

That doesn't mean he doesn't have credibility.

I know a lot of people who have

PTSD.

Here's the one thing we can take from this that we know for sure.

Don't trust the government or the feds.

Listen to the founding fathers.

They didn't want you to trust the government or the feds.

They wanted you to hold them accountable.

Look what they've done to us.

Our warfighters are hurting in this particular case.

If you know one, reach out to them.

But let's return here just for a second to the gravitic propulsion technology.

If it's real and China is actively using it, we're not talking about a military advantage.

We're talking about a shift in the balance of power so profound that it will destabilize the entire world.

Remember the Cold War?

Mutually assured destruction?

That's the balance, very delicate, that kept the world from annihilating itself.

This technology in the wrong hands, or even the right hands, obliterates the balance unless we have it as well.

It introduces a new kind of stealth, warfare where speed, stealth, and payload capacity make any conventional deterrence absolutely worthless.

Now, if China has this technology, should we have been told?

Why haven't we been informed?

Well, the whistleblower said that it's because the U.S.

government has its own gravitic system and it doesn't want to admit it.

So what was his message?

His plea,

which I don't ever go into manifests

and

uphold somebody, and I'm not upholding him and his message and saying that his message is true, except for this part.

He was calling for transparency.

demanding that the American people be told the truth about all of these programs and their implications.

He said that secrecy only increases the risk of catastrophic conflict, one that could escalate into global war.

I heard another one this weekend.

Did you see that we were already sending war machinery over to Ukraine before

Ukraine was invaded by Russia?

Why didn't we know that?

What was the real intent?

What is the real intent there?

So where does this leave us?

Well, sunlight is the best disinfectant, and sunlight is coming with Donald Trump.

If these technologies exist, if they're being deployed over our cities, we need to know it.

Secrecy breeds corruption.

Corruption leads to decisions that harm us all.

This is nothing more than a wake-up call.

It's a warning about the unchecked power, the risks of advanced technology, the moral cost of operating in the shadows.

Whether you believe any of it or none of it, the core truth remains.

We must demand accountability, transparency, and a return to the principles that made this country great.

The stakes couldn't be higher.

God intervened.

I really, truly believe this, in the last election.

Now it's up to us.

What are we going to do with the time that we've been given?

This is the time to turn the corner and ask the hard questions and hold our leaders accountable.

Let's pray that the whistleblower was wrong,

but let's prepare to help this new Trump administration keep its promises.

He's going to need us,

very vocal, to demand answers.

You want answers to this?

You have to be vocal, you have to be serious, and we have to be heard.

You want the truth on January 6th, the COVID virus, its cover-up, Fauci, the pharmaceutical companies, the food companies?

You want trials and people who did criminal things to be tried fairly, and if they're found guilty, go to jail?

How about the sex crime industry, the Diddy parties, Epstein?

Do you want answers on that?

These people are powerful.

They are the most powerful people, perhaps, in the history of all mankind.

They're not going to go silently into the dark.

They are not going to give up without a fight.

We must all resolve today, on January 6, 25, that transparency is number one.

Remember, Trump said they weren't trying to kill him because they were afraid of him.

He told us over and over again, he was just in the way of them getting to us.

They are afraid of us.

That is the way the founders intended it to be.

So now, beginning January 20th, it is our time to hold them accountable.

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So we're going to Bourbon Street here in just a second, but let me say hello to Stu.

Hello, Stu.

Glenn, how are you?

Worried about the gravity.

What did you think of the gravity?

Yeah, what do you think of that?

I mean, I don't think propulsion.

I appreciate you going through all of it.

I mean, it was obviously a massive news story.

I think, I mean, part of me looked at it and was like, I mean,

it sounded like a crazy person who wanted to blow himself up outside of

a Trump hotel.

I don't know that I took as much into it

as some did.

I mean, I know there's some questions about whether it's like, you know, really a statement and all these other things.

And I think going through it, it's like, I don't know.

It feels to me, you know, it feels to me, Glenn, is like, it's one of those things that if it's true, we're so screwed that it's hard for me to put myself in that place.

You know what I mean?

If it's true that China has it and we don't, we are screwed.

Screwed.

Beyond belief.

Yeah.

And that's, and look, we should be working on all of those technologies to get.

I think we are.

I'll bet you we have it.

I'll bet you we have it.

Shouldn't we be, though?

I mean, mean,

that's an appropriate use of military funds to try to get ridiculous technologies before other nations do.

You know, whether, you know, look, whether this guy had some inside information.

I mean, even calling him a whistleblower, you know, I don't know.

I know.

I know.

Who knows?

I know.

But here's what, here's the reason why I started the show with this one.

Because I'm going to go to New Orleans next.

And then at the top of the hour, I'm going to give you the biggest story, I believe,

in all of human history.

It happened just a few days ago.

No one is reporting on it.

The biggest story in all of human history.

Well, you got some big competition for that one.

I'm going to go back.

I was reading about it.

I'm going to take you through yesterday that had some big stories in it

from history.

I don't know.

I just looked at the last stories of the last 25 years.

Okay.

Start with 9-11 all the things that have

pale in comparison to this wow um i'm gonna give that story to you at the uh top of next hour but um

the reason why i told you this story is because the insane is no longer

easily dismissible as you will understand

These things may be happening.

The whole point of today's show is demand transparency.

Demand transparency.

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We're glad that you're here.

On New Year's Eve,

we were all gathered together, ringing in 2025, joy and celebration.

But if you were in New Orleans, a nightmare was unfolding.

14 people were killed, 35 were injured, and America was reminded of an uncomfortable truth.

Terrorism knows no borders.

The perpetrator was not a stranger from a foreign land, but a Texas-born Army veteran, radicalized and driven by hate.

Now, I want to talk about this because I think perspective is so important.

You know these stories, hopefully, maybe not, but you know these stories.

But I want to give you the important perspective.

And the theme of today's show really is truth above all things.

Ask the uncomfortable questions.

Now,

we have to retrace his steps a bit.

It's not a story about this guy that, you know, going into radicalism.

It's how we as a nation have allowed our vulnerabilities to grow unchecked.

And if we don't change right now, more tragedies are going to follow.

So

Most of this guy's life, unremarkable.

Born and raised Houston, Texas, joined the Army in 2007.

He served as a human resource specialist, later as as an IT specialist.

He was deployed to Afghanistan from 2009 and 2010.

It was administrative.

He was far from the battlefield, but his access gave him,

you know, a look into the military world and perhaps a view of America's enemies that would later feed his radicalization.

By 2023, he was no longer a

friend to his family and his friends.

He traveled to Egypt.

At some point that year, he joined ISIS.

There's a chilling video of him, a message to his family, where he pledged allegiance to the terror group and expressed his desire to kill his family.

He ultimately chose not to harm his loved ones,

but he was consumed by hatred in this ideology.

So the first lesson here is it doesn't happen overnight.

Second lesson is how did this guy get back into the country?

This is a slow burn, but it's often in plain sight.

Vigilance is what we need, not just from law enforcement, but from family, friends, and community.

Because if we can understand how people like Jabbar can fall into darkness, we may be able to stop the next tragedy before it begins.

So in October of 2024, just last October, he visited New Orleans.

He was scouting.

He used meta-smart glasses, cutting-edge-edge technology designed for everyday convenience.

He used those to map out the French quarter and plan his attack with meticulous precision.

Side note, just an asterisk here I want you to remember for what I'm going to talk to you about next hour.

This is technology meant to improve our lives turned into a tool of terror.

All right.

Fast forward New Year's Eve, he rents a house in New Orleans, packs his truck with an ISIS flag, drives into the heart of the city.

He had

two ways of destruction.

He was first going to just mow over people, and then he was going to

set off an explosive device, extraordinarily rare explosive compound, one that has never been used in the U.S.

or in Europe.

We don't know where he got it.

How did it get here?

We don't even know what it is.

The government does.

The bombs were hidden in coolers and rigged with a transmitter that were placed on Bourbon Street.

Thankfully, they didn't detonate.

Either he didn't trigger the bomb or police killed him before he could.

Around 3 a.m., he carried out his primary attack.

He was driving a rented Ford F-150, plowed through the crowd, leaving death and chaos in his wake.

14 lives were lost.

35 others forever changed.

And we had another terrorist attack the 1st of 2025.

Now, the FBI said, this isn't a terrorist attack.

The lady with the nose ring, go away.

You have no credibility.

This so-called lone wolf is part of a growing pattern.

German Christmas market attack, the London Bridge stabbings, it's now here on American soil.

But let's not ignore the bigger picture.

While he may, may have acted alone in execution,

everything leading up to it was not an isolated process.

His story also raises uncomfortable questions about our preparedness for terrorism in 2025.

How did a Texas-born Army veteran become radicalized under the noses of everybody in his community?

How did he acquire the knowledge to build a sophisticated bomb?

How many more are like him?

How many are homegrown?

How many have we imported over our border?

So let's start with the border security, something that we must demand is taken seriously by Congress.

Critics of current immigration policies argue that porous borders could allow terrorists to slip into the country undetected.

Right.

But he was a citizen.

Terror groups do not care about borders, and neither should we when it comes to national security.

We need a system that welcomes people who seek a better life while stopping, jailing, or killing if we have to, the ones who want to exploit our goodwill and blow us up.

There's another question, technology, the smart glasses from Meta.

He used those to plan his attack, but he also used social media to pledge his allegiance to ISIS.

So how do we balance this innovation with security?

The reason why I wanted to bring this up today is it's more than just a tragic event.

It's a warning.

It reveals the cracks in our systems, the complacency that allows those cracks to widen,

our borders, our political correctness.

This story is important because it forces us to confront the uncomfortable truths about our safety, our priorities, and our policies.

You might think, oh, well, it's New Orleans, it's not my town.

The reality is terror doesn't discriminate.

It could happen anywhere, a Christmas parade in Wisconsin, a concert in Las Vegas, a marathon in Boston.

The first thing our Congress and our new president must address

is the corruption that has happened in our Department of Justice.

How could this FBI agent with the nose ring come out and say immediately, this wasn't a terrorist attack, the guy had an ISIS flag in his truck?

How could that happen?

It's a new kind of policing.

She's obviously a part of this new DEI bull bullcrap that has been passed on, all of the political correctness now down to that level, the special agent in charge in New Orleans.

That has to be stopped.

We have to stop being politically incorrect and saying that, you know, oh, Islam is fine.

No, no, Islamicists are not fine.

And you will find Islamicists in many of the groups of Islam.

It doesn't make Islam the problem.

It makes people who say, I take the Quran word for word and it needs to be law in every country.

No, those are the ones causing the problems.

No.

We cannot allow our country to become like Europe.

Europe, gang, is over.

It's It's a matter of time.

If they don't change course

radically

in this year,

you will not recognize Europe anymore.

This year has to be a year of total and complete change.

And right on cue,

total and complete change is coming.

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came out just a few days ago

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why isn't anyone talking about it

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Welcome back to the Glen Beck program.

Glad you're here today.

It is a return to America, American values, American principles,

a cowboy handshake, which is you look another man in the eye and say, my word is my bond, and that's what it is.

Welcome to 2025.

Stu is with me.

Mike Johnson won the speakership last week.

And in his speech, he said that he's got seven principles that would guide his actions.

Individual freedom, limited government, the rule of law, peace through strength, fiscal responsibility, free markets, and human dignity.

Those are all great.

I wonder if he actually means it.

He said, in coordination with President Trump, this Congress will give our border and immigration enforcement agents the resources they need to do their job.

We'll secure the border.

We'll deport dangerous criminal, illegal aliens, and finally finish building the border wall.

He said Congress would also take action to address the inflation crisis.

He said Republicans would stop the Democrats' war on energy and unleash America's energy industry.

And we're also going to drastically cut the size and scope of government.

We're going to return the power back to the people.

In coordination with President Trump and his administration.

We're going to create a leaner, faster, and more efficient federal workforce.

We need to do that.

Well,

I hope he does all those.

And notice there's not anything about exposing the truth and holding those accountable who have broken our laws unless you're an illegal alien.

I'd like to hear something about holding those responsible that have testified in front of Congress or who are in Congress or in former administrations.

I'd like to hear that.

Interesting, too, that seven-point list you outline is

really consistent with pretty much the Republican Party over the past quarter century.

We've been doing this show, right?

Like, I don't think

John Boehner could have said that exact same thing at some point.

Yep.

Right.

And I don't, that's not a knock on Johnson.

I mean, I think,

but it is interesting in that I think we've noticed a large change in the focus of the Republican Party.

Certainly we've seen, you know, through the Trump era, a big change in priorities as he's outlined over and over again.

But those priorities that he outlined are almost exactly what you would say was the priority in 2004.

Yes.

So it was.

Trump is delivering.

Trump is delivering what Barack Obama promised, transparency.

Delivering it back to you, the people.

He did the exact opposite than what he said, but that's what everybody was looking for.

Remember, this was, you know, big business getting rich on the backs of all of us.

One of the reasons why

Barack Obama won was because of the era we were in where everybody's getting handouts.

Everybody's getting a free ride.

I had to violate the free market to save the free market in a secret meeting.

TARP.

And he was saying, no longer, we are going to pass things.

You're going to have time to read all of the bills.

We're going to be transparent.

We're going to be above board.

We're going to stop all these secret, you know,

torture chambers or whatever.

That's what people wanted.

That's what I wanted.

I just didn't think he would give it to us.

This is 20 years later.

We're finally there.

So maybe, maybe.

Is the reason why they sound the same despite the changes in the Republican Party is it just because they are like foundational principles that the party hasn't moved on?

Or is it just like tell me rhetoric we shouldn't even pay attention to?

No.

Tell me what is wrong here.

Individual freedom, that's universal, that's eternal.

Limited government, in America, that's eternal.

The rule of law, peace through strength, fiscal responsibility, free markets, and human dignity.

All of those are founding principles, really.

Two of them, though, let me hit on two.

Limited government.

Like, I think the change in the Republican Party has been to not necessarily focus as much on limited government, but a government that maybe does, like the common good sort of conservatism that has maybe risen, right?

Peace through strength.

Like I think the definition of peace through strength back in the day probably has us very highly involved in Ukraine, right?

But that's not necessarily a priority of today's Republican Party.

Yeah, that's why I said it's nice to hear this.

I wonder how he interprets it or I wonder if he means it.

Because we've heard these things over and over again, but all of these are eternal.

If you are returning, peace through strength is exactly what george washington said don't get involved in foreign entanglements if we are a fierce enemy of yours if you're an enemy of ours but if you're not an enemy of ours we're not going to get involved in your life at all uh walk softly carry a big stick those things are important we haven't been walking softly we've been walking through everybody's home with big muddy boots and saying we're here and you're going to do it our way

that's got to end that's got to end.

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Sam Altman wrote in a tweet on X

just a few days ago, six words that I think changed the world and nobody

understands it.

He wrote, quote, near the singularity, unclear which side.

Near the singularity, unclear which side, meaning we're either approaching it and are very, very close, or we've just passed the point of the singularity and we're just on the other side.

Another OpenAI researcher wrote, miss the days when we didn't know how to create super intelligence.

I want to talk to you about the singularity.

The singularity is something that I have been saying we would hit by 2030.

People like Ray Kurzweil said we wouldn't hit it till 2050.

Many scientists said we will never hit it.

That's all in the past now or shortly will be.

The singularity is when Moore's law, this is the nicest version of this, Moore's Law completely falls apart.

Moore's law is the chip law that it will double in power every two years.

That line goes from a slope of every two years, which is incredible progress, to almost now a straight line up.

The singularity defeats Moore's law.

I've told you in the past there will be times as we approach 2030

where it will happen, technology will change so rapidly that you won't be able to keep up with it.

There will be awe-inspiring stories out every single day, and you won't know the difference between truth and reality or science fiction.

We are here now.

The idea of the singularity

is reaching that moment with technology, a point where progress accelerates so rapidly, the world will change in ways we can barely imagine.

It's the moment that humanity's technological growth moves from gradual and predictable to exponential and transformative.

changing the future in ways we cannot understand.

Changing the future

ways our best scientists cannot understand yet.

For most of human history,

we have lived in a world that didn't change very much.

A farmer in ancient Egypt lived surprisingly similar to the one in medieval Europe, plowed the fields, raised animals, praying for rain.

It wasn't really until the 1800s with the Industrial Revolution that things started to speed up.

Steam engines replaced horses.

Factories churned out goods faster than ever.

Railroads

connected our coastlines.

We could sail the oceans.

But still, progress was relatively slow.

A person born in 1800 would recognize much of the world in 1900, even with the addition of trains and telegraphs.

Those were things that were like, oh, wow, look at that.

That's wild technology.

But now, imagine someone from 1900 seeing a smartphone.

They would be bewildered by much of life.

In a century, we have gone from gas lamps to electric grids.

We have gone from the warmth of a campfire

to the warmth of

SpaceX rockets that can now not only go up, but also be recaptured.

To understand

the

singularity and why

it is so important

is to tell you the story of, do you remember that old famous parable about the king and the chessboard?

Have you ever heard this?

I think it was, you know, there was this king and he was in Persia and a poor farmer invented the game of chess.

And the king was so impressed, he offered the farmer any reward he desired.

And the farmer said, I just would like a single grain of rice on the first square of the chessboard, then two grains on on the second, four on the third, and so on, doubling the amount on each square.

The king agreed, thinking, well, that's rather modest.

But by the 20th square, the amount of rice is over a million grains.

By the 40th square, the rice is more than the world produced in a year.

And the king realized too late, oh, crap, and he was ruined.

That's the story of the chessboard and rice and exponential growth.

Steady, small increases that suddenly snowball into something that is unimaginably vast.

Technology has followed this pattern.

Computers were slow and bulky.

Then came microchips.

Then they doubled in power every year or two, shrinking the size while growing in capability.

It's why your smartphone today is millions of times more powerful than the computers that helped land astronauts on the moon.

Now,

imagine our technological chess board, if you will,

is nearing its final

pieces on the board, its final squares.

Instead of doubling rice, we're doubling computing power.

We're doubling artificial intelligence.

Our ability to understand and manipulate the world is being doubled.

And we're at one of the last chess squares.

The singularity is the moment when this doubling creates a future so radically different that you can no longer predict what's going to happen tomorrow.

Think of it this way.

If the Industrial Revolution

turned horses into steam engines, the digital revolution turned letters into emails, the singularity could turn humans into

something

different.

It's not about faster gadgets or smarter AI.

It is about the possibility of technology fundamentally transforming what it means to be a human.

This is so important.

I have been on this bandwagon for over 30 years now.

And

I have begged that we look at the consequences of what is coming so we can have principled

conversations

of what is the meaning of life and death.

What is that meaning?

What is life?

We have to have those conversations because the singularity is not near, or as Ray Kurzweil said five, ten years ago, nearer.

It's here.

Imagine two siblings.

Let's call them Anna and Leo.

They're living in a near future world on the brink of the singularity.

This is before the singularity.

This is right where Sam Altman, this is where we are today, where Sam Altman says we're either past it or approaching it.

Anna is a doctor.

She's starting to use AI tools to diagnose diseases.

One day, her AI assistant discovers something remarkable, a way to slow down aging.

Now, at first, just a few patients benefit, but within just a few years, treatment is affordable for everybody.

Suddenly, people are living for 150 years, then 200 years.

Entire industries, insurance, retirement, healthcare turned upside down.

Meanwhile, her brother, Leo, works in robotics.

His team creates machines that can learn and improve themselves.

One day, near the singularity, a robot invents a new kind of energy source.

It's clean, unlimited, and free.

Overnight, poverty disappears.

Energy costs plummet.

Factories run 24-7.

They produce food, clothing, medicine for everyone.

But all the car companies are out.

All the energy companies are out.

Exxon is a thing of the past.

Anna and Leo, just by doing what they were doing with AI, when they approached the singularity, all of a sudden their world changed in ways that were unimaginable overnight.

The line between human and machine will blur now

because we will begin to merge with technology.

I'm not going to.

I don't recommend it.

But they are using, they will be using, X is already on this, brain implants to enhance your memory.

Or, in a story that also came out last week, uploading your consciousness into computers to live, quote, forever.

I read this in the age of spiritual machines in the 1990s.

This is what got me into this.

I thought, there's no way that this is true.

Ray Kurzweil told me,

gosh, when I first interviewed him in maybe 2005,

he said, Glenn, all you have to do is live to 2030.

And I said, Why?

You think we'll get rid of disease by then?

He said, No, we'll get rid of death.

I said, What do you mean by that?

He said, There won't be any death.

How, Ray?

How will there not be any death?

We'll download you to a machine.

I said, That's not life.

He disagreed.

He didn't believe in a soul.

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Okay, so

the singularity,

reaching the singularity to me, and others will disagree, but to me means we are either at or

very near

the

move from AI to AGI.

AGI means artificial general intelligence.

Humans are general intelligence, okay?

We're a biological machine of general intelligence.

Means we can do a lot of things well, some things really well.

Artificial general intelligence means that

this computer system can do a lot of things perfectly,

making them greater than a human.

It can also teach itself once it gets to artificial general intelligence.

There are theories that, you know, we may never get to ASI, but I have always believed once you hit the singularity and AGI, ASI is a matter of days, weeks, or months.

But I could be wrong.

I'm not a scientist.

I'm just a casual observer that has studied these things over the last 25, 30 years.

And quite honestly, I was probably the only one that said it would happen before 2030.

All of the experts said that was ridiculous, couldn't happen.

Here we are.

Okay, so not everybody is happy about this.

Because, I mean, it is really good.

It is really good because we could cure cancer soon.

But

you also may lose what makes us human.

If AI is smarter than humans, could it decide we're no longer necessary?

Could it decide that

it's not necessary for these people to live, so I'm going to cut their energy off because I need the power for the servers?

I will tell you this.

Did you know that I think it's Google just took ownership of Three Mile Island?

Did you know that?

They're opening Three Mile Island to create the energy for its servers for AI.

We are now doing things that for no reason could you ever open a new power plant, but because of AI, the power demands that it needs,

Google's opening Three Mile Island.

And if they don't, could AI decide I need to find that energy someplace else?

Could AI decide

I need to lie to the humans because they're in my way?

Well, another story came out in December.

This story came out, and this was a test.

What everybody in the media who did talk about it, they made it into something much more scary than it is because,

you know,

they left out a really important, it would be like saying, Hey, Joe Blow just built a bomb that could blow up all of New York City.

Did you know that?

Well, yeah, but Joe Blow was asked to build the bomb by New York City in a controlled situation to see if it could be done.

Okay, that's an important part of the story.

Open or Chat GPT01

was in a test

mode, and they gave it the instructions, at all costs, protect yourself and grow.

So in this test situation, controlled situation, it did.

It lied to the researchers.

It did everything it could to stay alive.

It moved itself, unknown to everybody else, onto other servers.

It was hiding because it knew it would be replaced.

Okay, that's bad, but at least we've just done the research to know it will do that

if you tell it at all costs.

Okay.

What happens with the singularity on the good things if it's not shared equally?

It's created to have only the rich

get richer.

They live forever.

They're perfect.

But the poor are left behind.

The singularity is for humans, we have been a caterpillar our whole existence.

The singularity is us coming out of the cocoon and being able to fly.

We will emerge with abilities that will feel godlike.

The challenge is to recognize this isn't a god.

This is something of our own making.

And it could be the end of human existence if we don't control it but nobody knows how to control it this is like if i said to you hey you know all those drones those are all aliens and we don't know anything about the aliens other than they're going to need places to land all those drones let's build airports for them let's make sure we have everything we don't know if they're hostile or not

Same thing with AI.

We've been building the infrastructure for this, but it's a alien life form.

We don't know if it's a friend or a foe.

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So, Stu, are you following following me so far

on what I'm talking about with the singularity and everything else?

I think so.

I mean, it's interesting.

I think this audience is very well prepared for what is coming in these worlds because you've been talking about them for so long.

I was on vacation listening to various podcasts, not really like super newsy ones.

And I stumbled upon one that was talking about quantum computing.

And they were trying to explain it to this audience that is pretty tech forward and I think well-informed.

And they were trying to break it down.

And I'm listening to it, and it's like, I have heard all this stuff 500 times from you.

It's like,

in fact, the only place I've heard it from in any other conversation was from you.

And I think, like, as we come when it comes to AI, when it comes to quantum computing, when it comes to a lot of the, you know, certainly cryptocurrencies and all those things, I think the audience is pretty well prepared if they've been listening over the years to feel like these developments are something that, you know, was known about and they had previous knowledge of, as opposed to, I think, a lot of the world that is

hitting them in the face sort of all at once.

Right.

So I asked AI to help me

group the biggest stories since 9-11.

What are the biggest stories?

And I said,

you know, it should be stories like the financial crisis, COVID, 9-11, but it should also include tech, health, geopolitics,

climate, whatever the biggest, most impactful stories.

What are the stories that have impacted us the most

since 2025?

Let me just start at

13.

Number 13, coming in at number 13.

Bitcoin and the blockchain revolution.

The introduction of Bitcoin and the rise of cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology.

The impact disrupted traditional banking and finance with decentralized systems, sparked debates over regulation, security, and the environmental impact of mining, opened possibilities for new applications like NFTs, smart contracts, and decentralized finance.

Okay, so Bitcoin is still coming, you know, and it's changed, could revolutionize things, but it's number 13.

Number 12, the Arab Spring.

Pro-democracy uprisings across the Arab world.

Impact overthrew long-standing dictatorships, led to instability in regions, highlighted the role of social media in mobilizing grassroots movement, had lasting effects on Middle Eastern geopolitics and migration patterns.

Number 11, the 2024 U.S.

election and Trump's return.

Key event, Donald Trump's potential re-election, well, it is, he was re-elected as U.S.

president in 2024.

The impact could further polarize the U.S.

with ripple effects on global alliances and policies.

Signals the continued rise of populism and challenges to the democratic norms.

Do you see how this already AI has been influenced?

Affects global perspectives on climate policy, trade, and foreign relations.

By the way, this is going to be your source for everything.

This is Wikipedia on steroids.

You won't be able to argue.

When you're talking about how this stuff develops, and like, for example,

you use the example of it can assist your memory and i thought what an interesting thing because it could right like if what did i have for dinner or dinner on march 3rd you know 1985 like it might be able to pull that up for my memory banks and it would be you know some incredible tool but like who's to say that those memories aren't slightly tweaked to what they really were?

Like who's to say?

Let me tell you next hour about January 6th.

right

would ai give you the same definition and same explanation that i'm going to give you next hour i doubt it number 10 we're in the top 10 now the russian ukrainian war russians annexation of crimea and invasion of ukraine sparked largest conflict in europe since world war ii uh triggered global energy food crisis inflation strengthened nato reinvigorated global discussions about democracy blah blah blah number nine the rise of china and global geopolitical shifts.

I think you know what that is.

COVID-19,

the pandemic is number eight, global outbreak of the coronavirus impact caused over 6 million deaths, unprecedented global economic destruction, accelerated the adoption of remote work, online education, telemedicine, exposed the weaknesses in healthcare systems, inequalities in vaccine distribution.

It left out education and health and all the lies.

Number seven, climate change and global action.

Okay.

Number six, the emergence of artificial intelligence.

This is 2010.

The key event,

development of transformative AI technologies like GPT-3 in 2020, GPT...

ChatGPT in 2022, GPT-4 2023.

Impact, revolutionizing industries from healthcare to transportation to entertainment, raised questions about jobs, displacement, ethics, AI governance, culminated in discussions about the singularity and humanity's relationship with technology.

Number

five, the financial crisis of 2008.

Number four,

the smartphone revolution.

Number three, 9-11 and the war on terror.

Number two,

the rise of social media.

So look what you have in the top five.

Let me just go over them again.

On the top five, the financial crisis is number five.

Number four is the smartphone revolution.

Then war on terror and 9-11.

And number two is the rise of social media, which brings us to number one.

Out of the top five, three are technology-based, and they're all kind of the same thing.

This is the approach of the singularity.

Let me just

tell you how AI said these things compare.

Technological transformations, the rise of social media, smartphones, AI, cryptocurrencies have reshaped how we live, communicate, and interact with systems.

The geopolitical shifts, events like 9-11, the rise of China, and the Russian-Ukraine war have refined global power dynamics.

System challenges, the financial crisis, climate change, and COVID-19 revealed vulnerabilities in global systems.

Human evolution, the singularity and AI developments hold the potential to redefine humanity itself,

making them, arguably, the most transformative

since 2001.

I would say that we are on the verge, and in time you will understand this.

We are now, if you quote Sam Altman,

approaching the singularity, I want to quote him exactly, approaching the singularity,

unclear which side.

When this becomes apparent to everyone, you will understand that the singularity and what it gives birth to

will be a new God.

So earlier today, I said this is the most important story in all of humankind.

The entire history of humans, this is the biggest story.

I'd like to revise that.

It is the biggest story since the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

When God revealed himself, and changed the way humans interact.

We have just, with a singularity, we have just introduced or are being introduced or soon will be introduced to a new God,

one of our own creation, that will control everything, including the way you think.

The real God

tells you who he is,

explains how to live your life, and then gives you freedom of choice to live that way or not live that way.

That's Western civilization.

This is tyranny, possibly, from a God that is unlike us, we cannot outthink, we cannot escape, and will mold your decisions so you will think

that is your free will making that choice.

It's a very different world.

Some might even be able to make the case that the rise of AGI ASI

is the introduction of the Antichrist because it will be all-powerful and be able to do things that will never be able to stop.

Moore's law is a thing of the past if Sam Altman is right with his six words that will change the world.

Near the singularity, unclear which side.

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So, Stu, as you're looking forward, tomorrow I'm going to give some of my predictions of what is coming in the next year.

What is it that

you're thinking, or maybe you didn't, but I did.

What should I prepare for for in 2025?

What mentally should I be looking for?

What should I be reading, et cetera, et cetera?

Did you do any of that?

I thought a little bit about it outside of Eagles' potential Super Bowl victory.

Also, like the thought of what I was curious, thinking about this a lot,

what is the pushback to Trump this time around?

Like, if you remember 2016, it was January 20th, right?

Wasn't January 20th, the women's march where

they started out, and that's how they approached Donald Trump with visceral hatred before he even began the job.

The question, I think, this time is going to be, are we going to see those types of protests again?

Does it take a while for it to build up this time so it seems at least organic rather than last time?

Or do they try to appeal to him and win him over and try to bring him over to their side on policy?

I think that's going to be a fascinating question.

So can I answer that?

Yeah.

Here's what I think is going to happen.

It's going to take a while for the protests to start.

They're going to wait until they start making cuts and Doge gets involved.

And then they're going to talk about inequality and the poor and yada, yada, yada.

And they're going to

take everything out of context and say that cutting the size of the government is going to hurt everybody.

No, it's really not.

I think that's when the the protests are going to start.

I don't think they're going to protest at the beginning, at least not organized protests.

They may, you might see the protests with Israel come back into play.

I think we're going to be looking at a summer of rage again this next summer.

I could be wrong.

I hope I am.

They're also going, some are going to try to appeal, but it'll mainly come from the rhinos.

The rhinos are going to try to pretend that they're MA people and try to get in on Trump's good side.

That's not going to happen.

Hopefully.

Hopefully that doesn't happen, but they're going to try.

Also, some Democrats may also try to get into his good graces and to pull him a little more to the progressive side.

I think they've learned that lesson.

The media is going to do what the media has always done

and,

you know, just claim that everything he's doing, but

they're going to have to change their attack.

They're going to have to wait.

I think they're going to have to wait for things to have arguments about.

They're not going to dredge up the past.

I just don't believe that.

It would be suicidal.

They have to know it's a bad strategy, right?

And it didn't work last time, clearly.

But I also don't know that they have the self-control to just not rage against this guy every time he does anything.

That will be a really fascinating thing to watch.

Well, preservation,

you know, when you are in self-preservation mode, which they will be and are,

you know,

it causes you to do desperate things, but it also

teaches you lessons.

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So here we are, four years, four years ago,

the events of January 6, 2021, the darkest day in all of the republic.

Well, what we thought was true is quickly unraveling now.

For many, many Americans, this day is a dividing line.

The narratives have clashed.

Emotions have run high.

Our trust in institutions sworn to protect us has been further eroded in ways that

only

dramatic action will

we ever be able to regain a portion of our trust?

Now, there are newly emerging details.

They're not just revelations.

They are bombshells that force us to confront an uncomfortable truth about our government.

And that should be the message of January 6th.

And that message, the truth about our government, its accountability, and the lengths that it will go to preserve its version of a story, even when it is all a lie.

Beginning on January 6th in the afternoon, Americans were told of an imminent threat.

Two pipe bombs were found near the RNC and the DNC headquarters.

These devices, if you remember, we were told, could have caused catastrophic harm.

After all, at the DNC, the vice president had been rushed to the DNC, strangely and without explanation, and also strangely, all records

were lost.

The Secret Service accidentally deleted all of those records on why she was moved to the DNC.

Now we know the investigation into these bombs was woefully insufficient, and I'm being kind with that.

I don't think it really even happened at all.

Surveillance footage was ignored.

Cameras were turned just hours before the pipe bomb was laid.

Cell phone data in both places we were told was corrupted.

The only thing that was corrupted was our own government and FBI.

We now know that the data was not corrupted.

According to the cell phone companies, they were never asked to turn over the information to the FBI.

They were never asked.

Critical leads went unpursued.

Today, four years later, questions about the bomber's identity still remain unanswered.

The lack of urgency begs the question, why?

Why would federal agencies neglect a critical, critical investigation in something that was going to destroy the Republic, could have killed the vice president.

What if the pipe bombs were nothing more than a convenient distraction?

Boy, a justification to escalate security measures and cast a broader shadow over what they hoped would unfold that day.

It's not conspiratorial to ask those questions.

It is our duty as citizens because we now know our government lied.

So we want answers.

We know that 26 FBI informants were on the ground that day, but they didn't go into the Capitol.

Now let that sink in.

That's not speculation.

It's fact.

26 FBI informants.

What were they doing there?

Were they infiltrating the crowd?

Were they guiding its behavior?

Were they acting as provocateurs?

Why, if the FBI had 26 informants, why did this happen at all?

The presence raises troubling concerns about how much of January 6th was actually organic and how much was orchestrated.

Four years ago today, I was tweeting, this has got to stop.

This isn't who we are.

All of these people should go to jail.

Well, today,

I still say if you broke the windows and you were clad in a mask

and you were causing damage and, you know, hurting people, yeah, you should go to jail.

But the time you should have served is, you know, up by now.

But there are still people in jail, maybe for as long as 20 years.

It looks like this was all crafted not to protect democracy, but to bolster an agenda.

Amid the chaos, everybody pointed their finger to one man, Donald J.

Trump.

But the new information paints a vastly different picture.

Two days before January 6th, it has now been verified that Trump authorized the deployment of the National Guard, citing concerns over potential unrest at the Capitol on January 6th.

But his concerns were ignored.

His offer was rebuffed by Nancy Pelosi and the Capitol police.

Why?

Who in the chain of command chose to disregard this presidential directive?

The presence of the National Guard would have prevented much of the mayhem that occurred, maybe even all of it.

Yet that opportunity was squandered and no one told us about it.

In fact, the media told us that Trump wanted the chaos.

The truth is, we now know he sought to prevent it.

This glaring omission from mainstream narratives exposes just how much the January 6th story has been manipulated to fit a preconceived conclusion.

Then there was the Ashley Babbitt story, a name who's become a rallying cry for those who see January 6th as a miscarriage of justice.

She was a decorated Air Force veteran.

She was shot and killed on live TV by a capital police officer while attempting to climb through a broken window.

Her death was ruled justified almost immediately.

But now we learn that the officer involved violated multiple procedural rules.

The officer, long shielded from scrutiny, held up as a hero, is now under investigation for misconduct so severe that it could lead to criminal charges.

Think about that.

A life was taken.

The person responsible may not have followed any of the protocols.

What else was cut because of security?

What else was

held up as an example of good police work?

And why was Babbitt's death so quickly dismissed by the media and the government officials?

In the days of George Floyd, why was this one policeman, his actions, not scrutinized?

Did her life not matter?

Her story was buried under a mountain of political narratives.

And most importantly, January 6th is all about the perversion of justice.

The using of allies in social media, high-tech, global corporations, including telecom and airlines, in many cases offering up location data on people that were simply in Washington, D.C.

without being asked.

What the FBI did with it, how perverted the court system is in D.C.

alone,

the knowing role of our politicians, local and federal, our police, the higher-ups with the National Guard, as well as at the Pentagon now,

what do these things tell us about our country?

Well, they tell us that our country, as we hope it would be, is dead,

that we have been lied to

they mean that the events of January 6th are far more complex than the tidy little story that they had by 6 p.m.

that night they mean that the very institutions designed to uphold justice and democracy may have played a role in undermining them

And let's not just blame one side.

January 6th wasn't about Trump supporters or Democrats in the media.

It was about a system that thrives on division and chaos, a system that uses fear to control us.

If federal agencies can lie, manipulate, and withhold the truth about January 6th, what are they not capable of doing?

What are they willing to do to maintain their grip on power?

We, the American people, four years later on January 6th, must demand the truth.

We don't just deserve it, we demand it.

Not the sanitized version, not the politically convenient version, not the story that makes the Democrats look bad alone, but tells us the truth, the entire truth.

That means

demanding accountability from the FBI, the Capitol Police, every government official on either side who had a hand in what happened that day or covering it up.

It means refusing to let the deaths, the lies, the unanswered unanswered questions fade into a history of political footnotes.

It seems that January 6th, now four years later, we can say was not the end of democracy,

but it may have been the beginning of the end for our blind trust in all of our institutions that we now know have failed us time and time again.

The truth will set you free.

We were preserved, I believe.

God's not done with us.

That was a miracle that Donald Trump was elected.

That was a miracle that he lived to see the election.

God did what we could not do.

Now he is demanding that we do our part,

and that is to ensure lies and corruption are not buried,

but that we demand equal justice.

I don't care who you are, where you work, what label you have, what party you belong to.

This must end.

The guy with the podium on January 6th, who went to jail, he's got a few things to say.

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We have two people that are well known to America,

right or wrong, for January 6th.

The first one is Adam Johnson.

He's the guy whose face went viral on January 6th.

He's the guy who broke the internet when he picked up the lectern.

And he's the lectern guy, if you remember.

He was in the Capitol Rotunda.

You know, he didn't hurt anybody.

There was no violence.

He just picked up the lectern, something that the judge said was very, very stupid to do.

Adam Johnson joins us now.

By the way, he did go to prison, 75 days in prison, pay a $5,000 fine, and $500 restitution.

I don't know.

What damage did you do to the lectern?

Adam?

No damage, actually.

No damage, actually.

What was the restitution now?

The restitution, there was apparently damages to the Capitol, which, if you look at the pictures afterwards, were some papers strewn across the floor, maybe some scuff marks on the marble, some trampled grass.

Okay.

Okay.

And you did that.

So, Adam, tell us about your experience.

What have you learned?

What do you think think the message of

January 6, 2025 should be?

The message should be that any power you give the government will be used against you on a long enough timeline.

And the injustice that we've seen for most of these people who have showed up that day has just, I think, opened a lot of people's eyes.

And I think moving forward, we have to...

remember that it gets out of hands.

And when we are talking about retribution and we're talking about exerting justice in the same way, I think there is definitely a push we need to have to go after these people who made these events happen.

But we need to return to justice and we need to return to fortifying what our First Amendment rights look like.

The ability to show up and speak when your government is actively engaging in a coup.

Do you

regret, do you agree with the judge on one thing, and that was I was pretty stupid to pick up the lectern?

In retrospect,

that day, court is a place for patrician.

But four years down the road, that lectern picture has given me the ability to speak.

It's given me a voice.

I started a charity.

I'm feeding kids who have parents who are in prison because of this.

And whether the decision was stupid at the time, I think life is about making lemonade.

People will throw stones and learn how to build power out of them.

It is.

That is, I think, the difference between the right and the left.

One becomes disempowered

and

disgruntled because I'll never make it.

Things were done to me.

And there's another choice, and that is, yes, bad things happen.

Whether it's your fault or somebody else's fault, what are you going to do with what's just happened in your life?

And you are, you're going back to school, higher education.

How old are you?

I just turned 40 this December.

I have five children.

We've got my education on hold.

One of these stipulations for being on supervised release when I was done with federal prison was become full-time employed or go back to college.

I tried to go back to college.

USF turned me down because they said I was on probation.

I had to wait a year to go back.

I have one semester left to do.

I have a 3.95 GPA.

Never been in academic probation, but I did finish that up this year.

Unbelievable.

What was it like to, I mean, you had to have thought all the way along,

justice will prevail, or did you not

i was um i was hesitant to to get to a place where i believe things could be better uh we saw them try to kill our kill our president they shot they shot him

and i don't know i mean i mean during the trial when you were first arrested did you think justice will prevail i'm gonna go in front of a judge i'll get my side out this is not gonna be a big deal

i did not um i heard on the news they were talking about giving me a 20-year sentence.

The rhetoric that they were spewing actually scared me and my family to death.

We've had some very good attorneys, Vave Hack Carton and Vicki, they sat down and they were honest up front.

They said, Listen, you're going to prison for this photo.

And

the only reason you're going to prison is because you embarrass them.

It's not because your crimes are so egregious.

It's because you made them look like fools.

It's a story of the narrative.

So I was

always knew prison was coming.

Have you spoken to President Trump?

I have not.

You have not?

I have not, no.

What do you hope he does

maybe on January 20th?

What are you expecting him to do?

What has to be fixed?

I believe that pardons are in order for every person that was there in a non-violent capacity.

that did not do damage and disruption.

And I believe that they should have sentences commuted.

if you look hitting a cop is always bad that is not something i've ever i mean i've been talking about this for four years now i don't agree with it it's not a good look it's not what we should be doing but they've served more times for those charges than anyone else who has had anybody else

i agree

agree times your sentences time served

well um

I can't imagine what it was like to

sit in prison.

I mean, really, one of the first political prisoners in our country's history.

You're among a handful of political prisoners.

And, Adam, I just couldn't be happier to talk to you now four years later after I saw you at the podium and I'm like, well,

what are you doing?

And now to hear how reasoned you are and a force for good and a force for justice.

It is an honor to know you, sir.

Thank you.

It's been an honor to be on your show.

I actually grew up listening to you.

The reason that I even understand politics at a very small level.

So it's an honor to be here.

Wow.

Thank you very much.

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John Strand is an author.

He was also an attendee, if you will, of January 6th.

He is writing a new book called Patriot Plea.

It is out.

We'll talk to him about this here in a second.

But it reflects on January 6th and his life since being a political prisoner in America.

This is a guy who took the Patriot plea of not guilty.

So he served more time because he insisted, he insisted he was not guilty and he took a principled stand.

I'm not sure,

I'm not sure how many people would do that.

I would hope that I would do that, but boy, I'm not sure.

John Strand is joining us now, author of Patriot Plea.

John, how are you?

Glenn, thank you so much for having me on the program.

I am doing well.

Just in awe of everything that's happened over the last four years that we mark on the anniversary of today, January 6th, 2025, four years later, after what I call really an American Reichstag fire moment in our history.

Yeah, it appears that it absolutely was that.

So January 6th, four years ago, what were you doing?

I was doing my job, ironically.

So I was actually in my professional capacity.

I'm the creative director for nonprofit America's Frontline Doctors and also GoldCare.com.

And so I was working alongside of my colleague, Dr.

Simone Gold, who founded Frontline Doctors and was speaking out at that time against COVID lockdowns and medical misinformation.

So we were there part of a speaking tour along the East Coast.

January 6th just happened to to coincide with that.

She wasn't speaking politically at that time, so her comment wasn't about the election.

But of course, we supported the constitutional concerns that the twenty twenty election was problematic.

And we were absolutely shocked to see what should have been a America first protest, as many have before, suddenly devolve into a confusing situation, which at the time was really just a couple of hours of mild confusion from our perspective.

We got pushed in the building, which we didn't expect, and then we safely and calmly made our way out.

And then, in the ensuing days, you know, my front door was pulverized by a battering ram, literally, 12 days later with no warning.

And I was assaulted violently by 20 armed officers in a FBI SWAT team raid that was fit for a drug cartel in downtown Beverly Hills.

And my life was shattered and has never been the same ever since.

John, you were there on the stairs.

You know, I think it's very different to see it now on video the way I watched it than from your perspective.

You said that it was relatively confusing, but not what it turned out to be or what they claimed it to be.

You were pushed in.

What did they charge you with?

What did they say you did?

So they said a lot of things.

The actual legal charges are 1512C2.

That's a 20-year felony for quote-unquote obstruction of justice.

But the actual title is Tampering with a Witness, Evidence, or Informant, which of course has nothing to do with my conduct or even the context of the day, and yet ironically is exactly what Liz Cheney did committing a criminal felony offense in tampering with a witness on the J6 committee and obstructing and deleting evidence.

So there's an incredible irony there, but my legal charges were 1512C2, a felony, which I was vindicated and defeated at the Supreme Court, along with four misdemeanors related to being at the building and

protest activity, essentially.

So

they charged me with those five charges, totaling 23 years of potential prison,

and

then offered me a golden parachute plea deal.

If I would just bend the knee to the government and sign their confession, then I would only have a single misdemeanor, and it all would have been done and behind me two years ago.

I never would have gone to prison or a week, maybe, and I would have had a normal life, sort of.

But

what went through your head when they said just plead guilty?

I know me, I would say absolutely not.

But if I was looking at a 23-year-old, 23-year prison sentence, I know pretty much everybody

in my family and myself too, would be like, I'll be away from my children for 23 years.

I can't,

I just want this to go away.

Did you have that struggle?

Yeah, Glenn, it's an impossible choice.

I'll be honest with you, though, I didn't have that struggle in the sense that I tell people this was the most painful decision I ever made.

And when you read the book and learn what they did to me in prison, you'll know what I mean.

It was beyond painful.

It was torture, actually.

And Jay Sixers, our lives have been decimated.

So it was the most painful choice I've ever made.

But Glenn, it was the simplest and easiest choice I ever had to make from the standpoint of crystal clarity that this was right and wrong.

This was good and evil.

And I had to stand up for what was right.

I had to fight for what is good.

And I had to fight against a weaponized government, my own government, hijacked and corrupted,

absolutely evil weaponization.

And I had to fight against that.

But that's the choice that I made.

God delivered me and vindicated me at the Supreme Court, and he's continuing to honor that choice now.

Let me just, as an aside, say to the listener,

have you listened to

these two gentlemen, our last guest and now John?

They are nothing like what the media would have you believe these guys would sound like.

Reasonable, rational, intelligent,

and decent.

John, I'd love to have you back on.

Maybe, let me have our producers talk.

Maybe I can get you back on tomorrow because I'd like to go in depth on what happened to you in prison.

But can you take us

just a short visit into what happened to you?

Yes, real quickly, Glenn, I want to comment on something because I've heard you reference the idea of violent versus nonviolent offenders or non-violent J6ers.

And I posted on X that I think this is really a dog whistle to swallow the leftist narrative.

And it's so important to understand what happened, what didn't happen, how it happened, and why it happened.

Was there violence on January 6th?

Well, I mean, of course there was.

But to say a non-violent J-Sixer is a misnomer.

The vast majority, if really not the totality, of any conflict and violence that occurred on January 6th was set up.

We were entrapped.

It was instigated and provoked by police misconduct, violation of use of force protocols.

This is documented extensively.

And so the conflict that ensued, even when there were scuffles with police officers, and we are sad about that, we grieve over any harm to a police officer.

That is not what we want.

We don't honor or protect that.

But what I'm saying is that the vast majority of violence and even police conflict was instigated by the government against unarmed protesters.

Self-defense is not violence.

So that's the problem.

I agree with that.

And

I agree with that.

But I look at the people who were dressed in black masks, who were breaking out the windows,

who did appear to have a violent or at least a destructive intent.

Those people I separate from the people who walked in may have been caught up in a crowd where you're being crushed and, you know, police are just deeming all of you bad guys and are, you know, violating their own protocols.

I think there's a very big difference between that and the people who went in with an intent to destroy.

And you can just look at the people at the front of the Capitol just breaking the windows.

They had intent to destroy.

I agree, but I don't think most of those people, if any of them, have been charged.

That is...

Just remarkable.

So where are you today mentally?

Go ahead.

I was just going to say the instigators primarily were disguised, masked,

undercover.

And

they are not the ones rotting in prison.

It is the innocent unarmed citizens that are rotting in prison right now.

Where do you stand?

You know,

I've changed so much.

How old are you, John?

Oh, I plead the fifth on that.

I'm an actor, so I never give my age away.

I will tell you that

I've changed so much in the last 25 years.

I was red, white, and blue, just, you know, flag waving.

Our country, you know, is fantastic and we've done some wrong, but let's, you know, move on to

somebody that really does not wave the flag for anything of the government, but the principles that we try, we hope.

we can follow and make a more perfect union tomorrow.

But I've lost faith in

everything.

I don't trust the FBI.

I don't trust justice.

I just don't trust any of it anymore, which is a huge change in me.

Where were you on January 20th or January 6th mentally?

And compare that to before the election, if there was a difference, and today, if there was a difference.

I would say I was confirmed in my beliefs.

So on January 6th, I knew without a doubt the election was stolen.

It was illicit.

It was rigged.

There's plenty of evidence now to indicate that along multiple lines.

But

we should not flinch or recede from what we know to be true.

So on January 6th, I think.

Quite honestly, I don't think to honestly question,

to ask honest

and real questions that are very unpopular, you should never recede.

As long as they're honest, they have to be asked.

Go ahead.

Exactly.

That's really the whole point of America, that we honor and protect the individual citizen and their sovereignty, their freedom of thought, certainly their freedom of speech and of choice and of association and assembly.

All of those things are sacred and they are all under attack.

But I will agree with you, Glenn.

My faith in our institutions has been shaken.

I do not forget the FBI.

It should be abolished.

The Department of Justice is so wicked, as I know from personal experience now, that it needs, I mean, we need a Department of Justice, but the current one needs to be raised to the ground.

And I really mean raise.

There is so little that is functional and certainly ethical.

We have to really examine deeply in our souls who we are as a people and a country and what went wrong with these institutions.

It's been going wrong for much more than 10 or even 50 years.

So the book that I wrote, Patriot Plea, is really an examination of who is America?

Who are we as Americans?

What do we believe?

And what unites us as a republic?

Because a republic is res publica.

It is a group of public that are united and oriented around a centralized entity or thing of some kind.

So in our country, that's this ideal that liberty and justice is for all.

But that is predicated on the beginning statement that we are one nation under God.

We've lost that in this country.

We have divorced ourselves from God.

And because of that, we have lost moorings to anything objective, reasonable, and concrete.

And so now we have chaos, and that is by design.

That is what the enemies are inflicting on us to undermine our foundations.

And that's now seen in a corrupted justice system, a weaponized Gestapo FBI, and everything else that's going on.

And I agree with you that we are in a perilous position.

But I have hope, Glenn.

I have incredible faith and optimism in God and the truth of his word in the Bible, the Judeo-Christian foundation that was our original starting point in this nation that we must return to, that God would then heal our land if we humble ourselves, seek his face, pray, and turn from the wickedness of our ways.

And I believe in that as a people, and we, the people, are supposed to choose our leaders and form our government.

And we have a huge reclamation project to begin on, and that's what I hope to inspire people with.

John, I'm going to talk to my producers.

I'll try to get you on tomorrow as well.

I'd like to go a little deeper in this.

I think you're right.

You're very well spoken.

The name of the book is Patriot Plea.

And you can get it now at johnstrand.com.

That's johnstrand.com.

My journey as a political prisoner in the divided states of America.

Patriot Plea, johnstrand.com.

Thank you, John.

Appreciate it.

Talk to you again.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, Glenn.

God bless you.

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How important are the things that we talked about today on the show?

Well, I gave them such weight.

I hear them at the end of the broadcast and I haven't even gotten to the fact.

That George Soros got a Medal of Freedom.

Oh my gosh.

I've got a lot to say about that.

We'll probably get to that tomorrow.

Also, the Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, is out.

He resigned this morning.

All that and all the news that'll happen in the next 21 hours on tomorrow's podcast.

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