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So over the next few hours, we've got a lot to say because I haven't said much over the last few weeks on a holiday break.

I've got some New Year's resolutions that I want to lay out for you in the next hour of the show, including a tease of a project that I have been clandestine working on for much of 2024 that we are going to tease later on in this program.

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And we'll tease it and leave it at that until the next hour of the show.

Congressman Thomas Massey will be joining us.

The speaker vote is later this morning.

And

the two men that are now at the focal point of that vote, Speaker Mike Johnson, and then the one at least announced dissenting voice, Congressman Thomas Massey of Kentucky.

It only takes one more voice to join him this morning at around, what is it, I think.

1 Eastern, I think is the vote.

It only takes one other voice to join him,

and then we have a vacated chair.

So, Congressman Thomas Massey will be joining us later this hour.

Why is he defying the edict of President Trump?

Why has he determined he will not vote again for Mike Johnson for Speaker?

And we'll let you hear him make his case a little bit later on.

And then I've got some other personal things that I think are important for you to know about that we'll talk about with some special guests later in the program as well.

But I want to lead off here this morning

and I want to talk about

one of the iron laws laws of the universe that I think we have kind of forgotten.

We have holistically forgotten it as a country.

We are living in what I like to call an epistemological nuclear winner.

And epistemology is just a nice fancy stained glass window word for how do we know what we know and how do we know what we know is true.

What does that mean?

Truth is a lost commodity in our culture today.

We have watched our corporate media, as many of you tuning in today know, our corporate media has gone from biased but largely factually accurate to just a force of malevolence in the culture now.

Anything that opposes the narrative of the spirit of the age is verbotin.

And that's how you see a corporate media go from corporations are evil liars.

to we now just rip and read press releases from Pfizer and put them on the front page of the New York Times without any scrutiny or skepticism or questioning whatsoever.

These institutions are captured.

What's happening on the right, though, and a lot of that is because we live in an era today where the church, by and large, sadly in America, has abrogated its position

of prominence in the culture.

It's the institution that God gave.

It's the only institution God made that stands outside of time and space, the church.

And one of its primary duties is to be a conduit for truth in the culture.

And many of our churches in the last generation have chosen to be conduits for sales of Hawaiian shirts, skinny jeans, pleated khakis, and sweater vests, and just racking up the biggest numbers they can.

To quote from the movie Bonhoeffer, which if you have not seen it, you're doing yourself a disservice.

You should.

What does it matter how many people are here?

What matters is why they are here.

So we're selling widgets.

We're filling barns, but souls and hearts and minds are walking out largely unsatiated and unfilled and undiscipled.

And so the counter to the malevolence on the left is all too often now on the right is our own counter narrative, whether or not it's true or not.

And this is kind of unavoidable.

We're in a flat-out cold civil war now.

And in any war, eventually you reach the tipping point where victory becomes a more important objective than objective facts do.

And if we're not at that point in our culture war, we are pretty close, especially after events that occurred in New Orleans here, which I'm leading to in a moment.

But you need to know the backdrop.

You need to know the backdrop.

I mean, how did we get here with Grandma Ethel as the police chief of New Orleans, who doesn't know what a barricade is?

How did we get here importing this worldview that now we don't even have to wait for the black swan event over our border?

We just have people after they've been Americans, after they've served in our military, are now capable of this level of brainwashing and then demonic acting out.

How did we get here?

It's important to understand the backdrop of this because there's going to be a lot of debate about policy and what to do moving forward.

But I don't think we can move forward until we understand why we're having this debate in the first place.

No other previous generation of Americans debated how much

of an enemy worldview to inject and import into its own institutions and culture.

In fact, they had the opposite impulse,

which was to radically act out too harshly.

Well, let's just take anybody that looks Japanese and intern them.

Because now, I don't agree with those policies.

I think they're inhumane, but at least I understand taking that premise too far.

I can understand that.

And that's where you do need dissenting voices like Bonhoeffers and every age that will stand up and say, you're not allowed to do that.

There's a higher law here.

Well, we've abandoned that debate wholly and completely in our day and age.

And instead the debate is how much of our values should we abandon?

So I don't get called racist, so I don't get called xenophobe, so I don't get called homophobe, so I don't get called a Christian nationalist, or woke right, or dissident right, right or any of these other stupid silly terms that are all psyops no matter who's wielding them people who pretend to be on our side who get all kinds of high-end bookings in on in right-wing conferences who are either fools or or double agents and i repeat myself or people who are just frankly too weak in character and integrity that they just can't take someone they're never going to like and who's never going to like them calls them a name.

84 years ago, 84 years years ago, British men were the last line of defense for the West against Hitler for months.

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And British men, even to the point of commoner British men, getting in their own boats and injecting themselves into battle to save their soldiers on the beaches of Dunkirk,

were the last line of defense for months against the Nazis.

84 years later, British men cannot be bothered, by and large,

that their daughters might be mass gang raped by illegals

because their religion tells them to.

After all, we might get called racists, and in fact, we'll elect Prime Minister one of the guys who's going to help them do it.

No, it is important to understand why we are here before we discuss where we're going to go.

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killed 15 people and tried to kill a lot more.

And you're lecturing us?

How did we get here?

We forgot a simple truth.

Worldview is destiny.

I'll discuss that more here in a moment.

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For now,

I'm going to choose to set aside the Las Vegas explosion and not discuss that today because there's just too many narratives, counter-narratives, and I'm big into waiting until I have certainty before I take a side on something, waiting until I have certainty before I discuss something.

So for now, we're going to set that moment aside.

Although the coincidence, I'll say this, the coincidence of an explosion using Elon Musk's technology in front of a building that is owned by Donald Trump when those two men are really the reasons the last election was won.

And it happening on the exact same day

as the New Orleans bombing is incredible, incredible.

But there's too many facts there that are still in dispute, so we'll set that event aside.

And I want us to focus on where there is much more certainty about what happened and why, and that is in New Orleans.

So again, let's set this scene here.

We have an American who served in the military,

then gets radicalized by Islam.

He successfully bombs a blue city with Grandma Ethel for a police chief.

Just

if I wrote this script and sent it off to Angel Studios, they'd be like, this is too hackneyed and partisan.

No one would believe this is real life.

While the feds ignored numerous warnings about him being a threat and are now claiming they didn't get any

because they have grandmothers, of course, to arrest for praying.

They've got other grandmothers they're concerned about, not the fact that New Orleans has a grandmother, and I don't mean like a new grandmother, like

grandma got run over by a reindeer, grandmother.

for a police chief.

No, they've got other grandmamas that they're more concerned about.

They have to arrest for daring to pray for babies.

So we're not focused on that.

This story is the last 30 plus years of Democrat policies wrapped up and summarized into just one colossal self-inflicted tragedy.

All we're missing here is grandma Ethel needs to just be in a non-binary marriage with an illegal alien.

And we've touched them all, man.

I mean, there's literally, there's nothing left.

I've bemoaned on my own show for the last few years how sad it is that this is the dumbest collapse of an empire slash superpower in human history.

It's the dumbest.

Like, there's no Attila the Hun.

There's no Genghis Khan.

There's no Alexander the Great.

There's no Peter the Great.

There's no Ivan the Terrible.

We don't even have an evil Soviet empire.

No, we are so

fixated on clowning ourselves to the ash heap of history here

that we're not even worthy of a great conqueror who just wants to pick up our mantle after they've taken us out.

We're just doing this all to ourselves.

And here's why.

Because worldview is destiny.

What we believe and why we believe it

matters almost as much as anything else in this world.

What you think about all day long and the way you think about it

will shape the person you will be on that very day.

We have acted for a long time now

like those things aren't true.

How long?

I'd go back to 2009 in the Fort Hood shooting.

It was the worst terrorist attack on our soil at the time since 9-11.

The worst mass shooting ever on a military base.

I'll never forget watching the commandant of the army on CNN doing an interview, and his primary concern was about whether this was going to impact their Muslim outreach in the army.

I was relatively new at this job.

I just made the switch from Sports Talk Radio just a couple of years prior.

A young dad doing a show on, you know, WHO in Des Moines, Iowa.

And I'm like, are you telling me the people running this thing are this dumb?

And the answer, every time I've asked that question ever since,

has sadly been yes.

Yes, they are.

Let me give you some more evidence of how dumb this is, how much of a clown show this is.

Since 9-11, now again, previous eras.

Previous eras would have taken the right premise too far.

Would have taken the right premise too far.

There's nothing wrong with saying, hey,

now that we've been attacked by an access of evil, and we've just had a massive wave of immigration in our country here at the turn of the century in the last generation, maybe we need to kind of see

how many people are loyal to the United States and how many people in here are not.

There's nothing wrong with that at all.

Nothing wrong with vetting belief systems at all.

In fact, that's the government's job.

To be an avenging angel according to the word of God.

Romans 13, verse 4.

Bringing the sword of righteousness against the evildoer.

What's wrong is just assuming people based on how they spell their name or what their face looks like or what color their skin is, that they just happen to instantly be guilty and rounding them up as such.

That is what is wrong.

But begging that question and asking it, nothing wrong with that at all.

That's healthy.

What's unhealthy is how far you're willing to go because we still, that we still have to, you know, the same word of God that says the government's job is to punish evildoers also says to love your neighbor as you love yourself.

I mean, you wouldn't want to be instantly suspected of something, Todd, when you've done nothing or demonstrated nothing to show that you are guilty of such a thing other than just the way you look or the way you spell your last name or what your accent is.

You wouldn't want that, right?

I've got some experience with that, in fact, yeah.

Correct.

But the premise of wanting to find out, okay, well, now that we're at an existential war, literally, for the future of civilization, we probably need to find out after we just did this massive wave of immigration, how many people here really are loyal to the country they just came to.

There's nothing wrong with that at all.

Well, we do take oaths to become citizens and be the government enforcers of the laws thereby.

Correct.

We won't even go to that premise today.

Let me give you some more evidence.

Since 9-11, now, again, previous generations would have been tempted to take that premise I I just articulated and go way too far with it and just start violating God-given rights, social compacts.

But we've abandoned that premise and have abandoned really the right to remain a sovereign people.

And as a result, let me give you some data.

Since 9-11, we have imported at least 2.5 million, million, million people from Islamist countries since 9-11.

Our impulse after 9-11 was not to do the vetting, but to actually just do the invading ourselves.

Just open it up.

Just open it up.

We've had more Islamic terror on our shore since 9-11 than we did all the years prior to it combined because of what I'm about to tell you.

According to the 2023 census update, those two and a half million people, if they were their own state, that would be the 37th most populous state in America.

How about if they were their own city, it'd be the fourth most populous city in America.

Now, let's say every single one of these people were closely vetted.

I think we all know that they weren't.

I think we all know this, right?

We do, yeah.

But let's just say they were.

And let's say the hit rate of that vetting is 99%.

They weren't vetted, and we know the hit rate is at 99%.

But let's just go with it, run with it, right?

Wait till you hear what the data shows they would represent.

It will blow your mind when we come back.

Stay tuned.

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Given up on the American worldview to the point

that they have de-Christianized our society.

At the same time, they decided to mass import

another religion into this society.

Two and a half million people since 9-11 from Islamist-dominated countries.

Two and a half million.

Now, let's say they were all carefully vetted.

We know they weren't.

And let's say that our vetting hit rate is 99%.

We know that's not true.

But let's just make it for the maximum amount of grace we can for our fellow countrymen.

Let's do that.

Fair?

Okay.

If they missed by even 1%, that would represent 25,000 potential

terrorist cells in the United States.

To put that in perspective, that is larger than the standing armies of NATO members Finland and Norway.

So we are allowing it to brainwash our own citizens,

like what happened to a military veteran

who got brainwashed by Islam

as an American.

We are importing it, mass importing that same worldview into our society.

For reasons only Allah knows, we have chosen as a people

to assent to and tolerate a mass importation of a Quranic worldview into our culture.

And it's important, therefore, to know what this worldview is.

So I'm going to tell you, because you need to know.

Muhammad spent the last 20 years of his life in constant perpetual warfare,

committing atrocities, in fact.

After he died, he left no heir.

So his followers divided into two sects.

You know them today as Shias and Sunnis.

They instantly went to war against each other.

Each side wrote their own hadiths.

You think there's just one hadith, there's not.

There's multiple hadiths.

Writing their own clarifications.

We don't have Pauline letters.

We don't have John Mark taking dictation from Peter.

Muhammad couldn't read or write.

So they started making stuff up to go at one another.

to claim dominion over one another.

They've been at war with one another from the very beginning.

One of the worst empires in human history, the Ottoman Empire, what was it?

Muslims conquering Muslims.

That's what it was.

And when it wasn't that, they were at constant war with the West.

Within a generation after Muhammad died, Islam launched its first attack against the Holy Land.

No nation called Israel had existed on the earth for 500 years.

Because some of you think, well, you know, if you weren't so closely aligned to Israel, they would just leave us alone.

You're morons, and I'm going to prove it to you.

Or you're just anti-Semites.

And based on how you react to the following information I'm about to give you, you'll just doubt yourself.

There was no nation of Israel for 500 years, and Islam attacked the Holy Land nevertheless.

Over the next 1,300 years, Islam has waged perpetual war with Christendom in the West.

During a period of time, there was no nation of Israel.

From 110 AD to 1948, there was no nation of Israel upon this earth.

Those 1,800 years intersect with 1,300 years of Islamic history.

And Islam has attacked and gone to war against the West that entire time, including periods of time when, frankly, anti-Semitism was mainstream within much of Christendom.

They attacked us anyway.

First war this country ever fought.

Barbary Coast pirates.

Islamically radicalized.

These are facts of history.

Let me give you some more.

Some of the greatest and earliest enclaves of Christianity were in places called Lebanon.

Were sects called Coptics or they were Egyptian.

Antioch, which the New Testament says it's the first place people were called Christians, was in Antioch.

That's Syria.

Assyrian Christians were one of the massive early Christian enclaves, Iraq.

The book of Revelation, which there's so much discussion and speculation about today, opens with seven letters to churches, seven individual churches in a country called Asia Minor.

You know what today is Turkey?

Where did all these Christians go?

Where did all of these Christian sects go?

They had a referendum.

There was a vigorous campaign.

Both sides, the Sheikh and the priest, presented their facts and viewpoints, and the people rose up, vote popularly, and said, Muhammad did it.

No, no.

That's not what happened.

And that's never what happens.

Instead, what always happens is what just happened again in New Orleans and keeps happening again and again and again.

So, no, our relatively recent realignment with this relatively recent iteration of Israel

is not why they come after us.

It shouldn't matter what you prophetically view of Israel.

You should see them as an ally anyway

because we have a common enemy who sees us as their common enemy: infidels, people of the book.

This is what happens when you give up on your own worldview.

Nature abhors a vacuum.

There is no secular realm.

Our secular elites are just God-hating doofuses.

They're not enlightened.

They cleverly thought they were using things like Islam to destabilize Christianity so that they could then take over.

They're wrong.

Islam's going to take them over.

For over 20 years running, the most popular baby name in London has been Muhammad.

Some of you are just hearing this story for the first time.

It's been going on for 20 years.

Many of the old great cathedrals of Europe are either vacant or mosques.

Because something will

always rule and something must always be worshipped.

There is a heaven and a hell.

So something will always rule and something must always be worshipped.

There is no secular realm.

There never has been.

There never will be.

It's just a place where you go to get conditioned for the new religion you're about to receive.

And the reason why

our generation

has been oppressed by this more times than we can all count.

And previous generations weren't.

They had their own issues, but this wasn't one of them.

Is they understood everything that I just told you.

They taught it in their schools.

It was well-known history.

The church was active and engaged.

Citizenship mattered.

Culture mattered.

People wanted to assimilate into the superior culture.

You know, the biblical one that says, love your neighbor as you love yourself.

So, no, I am not allowed to just instantly take away the rights of my Muslim neighbor because I disagree with their religion or to treat them as lesser than me because of their beliefs.

Jesus died for them too.

This narrow road of tension between justice and mercy that you can't always successfully navigate it.

And previous generations were certainly not perfect at this, but they at least tried.

They at least tried.

We don't.

So we run ads on television that Jesus was a refugee, which was never true.

Never true.

Not once.

Not even factually accurate, let alone theologically.

This is foolishness.

And we're doing this all to ourselves.

There is no nation that would dare stand against us.

We're doing it all to ourselves.

And I'm telling you right now, if you send another

quasi-pretend secular movement at radical Islam, you will only strengthen it.

Because you'll be lying to yourself and forgetting what I just said.

Something will always rule.

Something must always be worshipped.

There is no secular realm.

And the only antidote to a bad theology is a good one.

Now, I know for a lot of you, a lot of what I just told you is new.

You've never heard this before.

Well, I've been going to church for 40 years.

No one's ever told.

That's the problem.

That's the problem.

If you are a pastor or a priest in this audience, and you have not taught your people what I just said to you, you have failed in your calling.

This has only been the predominant cultural clash for the last

25 years almost.

Do your jobs.

And it shouldn't be up to a freaking talk show host to do it for you.

Do your job.

Because my people perish for lack of knowledge.

And we are perishing.

15 perished that didn't have to because of this.

every crime committed by an illegal alien didn't have to be committed could have been completely avoided because they weren't supposed to be here

we cannot outrun worldview

and the reason why

A Muslim who wants to live an otherwise peaceful life has a better chance at a peaceful and prosperous life here within the country Islam calls ironically the great Satan

than they do anywhere else on earth is because the biblical worldview is superior to all other worldviews.

That's why.

American exceptionalism in a civic realm

has proven to be superior to all other governing systems, philosophies, and styles in all of human history.

This is why.

Worldview is destiny.

Dread it.

Run from it.

Or in our case, ignore it.

Think you can defy it.

And destiny arrives all the same.

So now that we've talked worldview, what would be some solutions?

What would be policies?

I'm going to give you a very specific one here.

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So now that you have just a little morsel of knowledge and understanding of how we went in a generation from

running commercials,

demanding in Billy Graham crusades on national television, demanding that you get Jesus to now spending billions of dollars to run TV ads saying that Jesus gets you.

Okay.

If you want to know how all that happened and then why we just decided to import

an aberrant worldview out of complete and total willful ignorance, now you know.

A bunch of people believing themselves to be enlightened thought this was the way to destabilize the Christian civilization of America.

And they're cosmic useful idiots.

They thought they were going to bring an aberrant view like Islam in here to destabilize Christianity.

And Islam is treating them like the useful idiots they are.

So then, what are solutions then?

You know, there are times that authorities have to just act.

For example,

a cop comes upon a bank robbery and a bank robber has a knife or a gun to the throat of the teller.

Do we want the cop Todd to call timeout?

Let's get on a Zoom call and let's just have a trial right here, okay, before I act?

Is that what the cop's line of duty rules of engagement in that situation are?

Not for most.

Maybe the grandmother in New Orleans, but maybe.

Yeah.

Who doesn't know what a barricade is, apparently.

But at her age, you forget things.

So, yeah, no, we want them to act.

That's the charge.

That's why

it's explicitly expressed by the fact the officer's carrying a weapon, correct?

Yes.

So, act.

We want them to act in that moment.

Now, after the fact, you know, you got to clear things, make sure that that act was justified, because it is a grave thing to act as a cop would have to in such a case, right?

So, we'd want to make sure that everything was followed accordingly.

But because of the level of threat at that time, it would be less prudent to then not act at all and then find out after the fact we acted too harshly, right?

Yes.

That's the calculation that we take.

So there are moments when authorities that we grant government by the consent of the governed, we grant them the authority.

And the authority they are to exercise.

according to the biblical worldview our country was founded on is to bring the sword of righteousness and be an avenging angel against the evildoer paul writes

so there are times that we just act because the threat is so grave I submit, one of those events happened New Year's night in Manhattan.

Just hours.

In fact, while they were still counting the dead bodies in New Orleans,

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to protest the glorious intifada.

Round them all up and deport them all, every last single one of them.

They've self-deported themselves.

They've announced themselves as enemies of the United States.

Put them all on a raft a thousand feet in the open waters and then come and see if they're glorious and Tifada will come and claim them.

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So like everybody else, I've got some New Year's resolutions.

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I don't make them very often, but I've got a few I'm going to make, and I'm going to put them out over a few hundred radio stations here this morning, just a matter of holding myself accountable, including the lofty goal of launching perhaps the most effective takedown of Pride Month that we've ever seen.

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Hi, I'm Steve Days, filling in today on the Glenn Beck program.

I return to my normal show right after Glenn here on the the Blaze on Monday, noon to 2 Eastern.

If you want to check it out on the Blaze, you can subscribe to the podcast version on iTunes and elsewhere.

Just look for my name, Steve Dace, D-E-A-C-E.

Check us out on YouTube as well.

We had to start all over on YouTube because I told too much truth during COVID.

So they censored the H-E-double hockey sticks out of me.

So we have a new YouTube channel at Day Show on YouTube is where you can go at Day Show on YouTube.

Again, I'm Steve Dace with Todd Erzen and Aaron McIntyre.

Check us out Monday through Friday, right after Glenn here, most days on the blaze from noon to 2 Eastern.

And like everybody else,

I've got some New Year's resolutions.

I posted these a couple days ago on my ex-account.

You can follow me there at Steve Dace Show.

But I like accountability.

I'm just a true contrarian.

And it's because I just know myself, right?

Like

it's very limited how much workout stuff I'll put in my house just because typically I have to get out of the house.

My house is my castle.

I'll work out if I have to leave the house more consistently than if I stay in the house, right?

I just have to understand, you know, be self-aware, okay?

And so to that end, I'm going to put these out into the ether on hundreds of radio stations

so that you guys will hold hope or

will help hold me accountable.

Easy for me to say.

You'll help hold me accountable to these for the rest of 2025.

All right.

So let me start with something very basic that a lot of people have.

Okay.

So last year I wanted to lose 50 more pounds.

I'd already lost well over 100 over the last several years, but I needed to lose another 50.

I got to about 40.

So I've got 10 more to go, but I think I need to punish myself

because I didn't hit the goal.

So I'm now going to lose another 10.

So I want to lose another 20 this year.

That is my goal.

And I had people ask me, hey, you know,

why do you want to look at it as punishment?

Because I, you know, if you know me for more than 10 minutes, I tend to respond well to negative reinforcement.

If you tell me, I think you're good, I'll think I'm good and I won't try any harder.

If you tell me that sucks, then I'm going to try to prove you wrong and defy you.

We're all different.

Some people are, you know, my wife took me about 20 years to learn.

She's much better at positive reinforcement than the negative.

I finally learned it and our marriage got better.

Who knew?

Okay, but yes, I respond well to negative reinforcement.

So to punish myself for not hitting the goal that I made last year, I'm going to have to now lose another 10 just to call it even.

I think that's fair.

Good.

Hey, I mean,

the pumpkin spice quotient is yours to figure out.

I mean, it's one of your many idiosyncrasies.

So, you know, I think that's the thing.

And I've got nine months till pumpkin spice comes back.

So I've got nine months to lose 20.

You've done the math.

I trust you.

All right.

New Year's resolution number two.

I know a lot of you saw the movie I helped to executive produce, Nefarious, when it was out in 2023.

My next New Year's resolution is we will officially begin pre-production on the Nefarious sequel this year.

So

we are making some pre-pre-production machinations, but the kinds of things you do when you hope to eventually get to official pre-production.

So my hope is that we will get to official pre-production this coming year.

And we do have Sean Patrick Flannery lined up to return for the sequel series along with Jordan Belfee.

The two of them were so great in the movie together.

And maybe

another

addition to the cast that some of you might find exciting if we're able to get across the goal line with that one.

You're kind of aware of what it is without letting the cat out of the bag.

Will you agree or disagree?

That is something that probably a lot of our people would be very excited about.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

So some of you might be wondering, how can Sean come back?

Oh, we've got a great idea for how how that's going to happen.

But if I told you, then it wouldn't be fun for you to find out later.

But we are working on that.

And we're actually hoping to make it into a series to explore these characters now a little bit more and put it on

a wider platform and have it be more than an hour and 40 minutes this time.

So that's what we're working on.

So that's my next New Year's resolution.

Here's another one that I have.

I spent a lot of time the last couple of years not caring what atheist, self-appointed sheriffs of Nottingham thought about my faith and worldview and that they thought it was their job to check it somehow and to rein it in or the

internal intra-personality squabbles that often go on that are largely just mere urination matches.

You guys ask me, I get emailed, I got like 15 emails already in the last few days and delete, delete, no.

My answer is just no.

I'm not even going to respond no, no.

I'm out.

I'm just, I'm not getting getting involved in these things.

I got enough of my own fights.

I've got enough of my own enemies, enough of my own problems.

And as long as you don't make me your enemy or my belief system your enemy, as far as I'm concerned, we're friends.

Okay.

If you want to make me or your belief system

your enemy,

I'm your Huckleberry.

I'll play.

Okay.

But barring that, I'm out.

I don't care.

And a lot of this stuff, frankly, gets crazy.

Okay.

Listen, I put the fun in fundamentalism.

I'm a solo scriptura guy.

Todd, who I hired to work and edit my stuff,

is a guy who would do the Latin Mass in his basement if he thought he was qualified.

Fair?

Fair.

Okay.

So there's some differences of opinion and convictions, even on our own show here.

But some of this stuff gets so crazy.

Like, there are people I know and respect who are adamant that Catholicism, Todd's sect, is a fake Christianity, but yet at the same time, they're very adamant that we need to return to the politics of Pat Buchanan.

Correct.

Who was

Catholic.

I don't know how to navigate that.

So guess what?

I'm not going to try.

I resolve again this year to not even try.

Catholicism is a fake religion, but we must return to the politics of Pat Buchanan,

who's Catholic.

I don't know how to navigate that.

It's beyond my qualifications and capabilities.

So guess what?

I resolve again this year

not to try.

So I won't.

So my answer is no, I don't.

I don't have an answer for you.

And I'm not going to play referee.

And if two people are arguing about something that I happen to like, go ask them why they're arguing about it.

Because if I'm not in the argument, there's no need to involve me.

Fair.

It would seem so.

It would seem so.

You may as well have said you were going to lose like 40 pounds because that would have been easier than to accomplish what you just said.

Yes.

But I resolve.

And if you think I can't be petty and stubborn about, I can be even pettier and more stubborn about not involving myself in something that I can be about involving myself in something.

You have not even begun to see the level of uninvolvement I am capable of.

Yes.

I mean, I had one, I won't name him, I had one Christian influencer.

Reach out to me over the holidays who has not communicated with me about anything for the last several years.

I even went to him because I'd known him for years about nefarious.

Nothing.

No replies, nothing.

And out of nowhere, he finally decides he's going to DM me over the holidays to warn me about a conference I'm going to speak at next year.

What do you think my reply back to him was?

Or this year now, because it's 2025.

The same sound of silence?

It was the sound of silence.

To quote the great prophets to Peshmod, enjoy the silence.

Yes, nothing.

Nothing is my response.

Yes.

I started keeping this New Year's resolution like the last few days of 2024.

So no.

No is the answer.

All right?

No.

You went Willy Wonka.

You get nothing.

You get nothing.

Correct.

Yes.

However, one of the other

New Year's resolutions I have, I did the Bible in a year for the seventh time last year.

And I want to now make it

for the rest of my days.

I resolve I'm going to do it every year.

I'm going to go through it every single year.

And then there's a million plans.

You know,

I'll do some reading.

I'll do some audio.

I do audio every day over breakfast, right?

Like, so even before I came in here to do this show, had about 20, 30 minutes over breakfast, all right?

So I had, that was the only audio I had in the room because I was the only one up this early over the break.

Okay.

So,

you know, find the plan that fits and works for you.

Okay.

But

if that's what you want to do, but I'm going to try to make it an annual thing for me every single year.

All right.

And then another New Year's resolution, number six.

I'm going to try, just like we did this first hour of the show here today on Glenn's program.

I'm going to try to analyze things from even more of a worldview than a political process viewpoint, even even more than we have typically done that in the past.

And the reason why is because we're having some serious governing debates on the right.

We're going to have this with Congressman Thomas Massey next hour.

And frankly, I'm not even sure where I even stand on whether to vote for Mike Johnson or not.

So, you know, I'll work this out with him when he comes on the show next hour.

The H1N1 discussion was a perfect discussion.

Yes, it was.

And then the continuing resolution discussion

right before Christmas.

We are serious about governing on the right now for the first time in many, many moons.

And that's great.

Now, the trade-off is going to be a lot of the differences we have on policy have largely been papered over while we were in a unified front against the left.

And now we have to govern now.

And the country is trusting us to finally govern and not just give them talking points like we're going to repeal Obamacare and then not do it, for example.

We're going to build a wall and then not finish it, for example.

All right.

That we're going to do the things.

Trump is clearly laying out a level of messaging and policy specificity way beyond what he has done in the past.

So he's clearly serious about governing.

All right.

So these fissures are going to come up now that we're going to actually act on policy.

We're not all going to agree.

And so I think it's going to be paramount, at least some of us, try to analyze this as much as possible from a worldview standpoint

than just a policy standpoint.

And so I'm going to resolve to do that even more intentionally this year.

And to that end, I'm going to give the Trump administration a lot of grace this first year

because we need them to be successful.

Because if they're not, the amount of time we're going to have to turn on each other and criticize,

we're going to have plenty of time for that later

if they're not successful this year.

All right.

That brings me to one final New Year's resolution I teased here at the top of the show.

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All right, Steve Dace, back here on the Glenn Beck program.

Happy New Year to all of you.

So, going through my New Year's resolutions, you guys have any thoughts on the first six that I've laid out here so far?

Anything that you think are unrealistic, you disagree with, et cetera?

Well, I think from the Bible perspective, personally, but more broadly, we on our own show

started Romans Bible study last March, was it?

Got through

in the middle of chapter six, I think.

Right.

And like I said, it seems like we all agree that it's gone about as well as we could have expected, and that's pretty darn good.

So I think, why not up the ante on that kind of thing, both personally and more broadly in terms of worldview?

Yeah, I think a lot of people, I mean, this is an evergreen question that a lot of people have, but why are things happening the way that they do?

Why do things go down in the political world and the scene realm the way that they do?

Well, the only way you can attempt to answer those questions is by applying worldview and applying three-dimensional thinking.

And I'm going to butcher this, Steve, so you might have to correct me, but that's something along the lines of knowing what you believe, knowing why you believe what you believe, and knowing why others believe what they believe.

And there's other tentacles to three-dimensional thinking as well.

That's going to be badly needed because there's a hundred different places you can go for rote political analysis, but that's kind of the exciting part of this year because there are going to be some things that we're really excited about and really optimistic about with the incoming Donald Trump administration.

There's going to be some things that we might be disappointed about, particularly as he attempts to navigate the political mores that are present right now, not just on the Democrat side in Washington, D.C.

and the deep state, but on the Republican side that we're going to see play out before our eyes even today with the speaker fight.

So I think if there was ever a time to apply a biblical worldview over and over again, it's going to be the year 2025.

Amen.

So to that end,

last year, I began working on a clandestine project that you, Aaron, actually inspired just as a throwaway line when I came in one day, last May, I think it was.

And you mentioned it, and the light bulb went off in my head.

All right, so over the next six months, I've been working on this project with a team of people.

And this is the New Year's resolution that I was teasing earlier.

I want to launch the most, what I, my goal, you know, I don't aim low here.

It's go big or go home.

It's kind of one of my life philosophies.

Solve your problem with aggression and go big or go home are like two of my absolute

stasisms.

Okay, so

I want to launch perhaps the most effective takedown of Pride Month that the right has ever seen.

But I think to do so, we have to remember the old Irish Catholic saying that what the devil hates the most

is to be mocked.

It's to be mocked.

So I have a project coming out later this year.

I can't tell you more about it right now, except this.

You can go to richiemeatsthereainbow.com, R-I-C-H-I-E,

R-I-C-H-I-E,

Richie Meatsterainbow.com.

Keep that website handy throughout the course of this year.

It's only going to be another couple of months.

You're going to hear more.

All right.

But Richie MeetsThe Rainbow is where you can go.

If you want to be caught up on

the full announcement of this project that I'm teasing right now.

And you can make sure that when more information becomes available, that you are in on it and you're going to want to be.

And

I've said the last several years, I will never write anything better than a nefarious plot, the movie that inspired Nefarious.

Even though I've written several books since then.

And I'm not saying that this is going to be better than a nefarious plot.

It won't be, because I don't think I'll ever write anything better than that.

But I do think it will be every bit as effective.

I think

when this comes out, it's going to blow people's minds.

There has never been a takedown of Pride Month quite like this.

And I think before

you can...

full onslaught a worldview, you have to show the audience that the emperor has no clothes.

That this has been a scam from the beginning.

So there's no need to fear it.

It's a joke.

It's not serious.

There's no need to fear it.

Much of the reason this has continued to invade and infest our culture is our own fear.

To remove the stigma of fear in something, you have to demystify it and then re-stigmatize it.

And boy, how howdy, I intend to make

stigmatizing great again in 2025.

We're going to make stigmatizing great again.

Needs to be a little bit more stigmatizing happening.

Not enough stigmatizing, I think, happening in America.

I'm going to get amen on that from both Catholics and Protestants.

Amen.

Can we get hats?

What color will they be?

Black hats.

These have to be black.

All right.

Make stigmatizing great again.

Yes.

All right.

So go to richiemeets the rainbow.com, R-I-C-H-I-E, if you want to get more information on this.

More information will be forthcoming here later in the first quarter of 2025.

Let me tease it with this.

And if I say anything more,

I'm going to get a call from my team when I get off the air.

When we went to put this thing together,

when we went to take it from concept to a product,

We had to go outside of America,

finding someone within America that would produce this product and put their name on it.

And I'm not joking.

It was not.

To be clear, to make America great again, we had to go outside of America to make America great.

And let me tell you, I'll just tell you where we had to go.

We had to go to Hungary.

We had to go to Victor Orbans, Hungary.

That checks out.

That means so we're on brand.

Just so you know, we are on brand.

We had to go to Victor Orbans, Hungary hungary to find someone that would produce our concept for us all right

because

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Return to my normal show Monday.

Todd Erzin and Aaron McIntyre are here with me as they normally would be.

You can follow me on X as well at Steve Dace Show.

That's D-E-A-C-E at Steve Dace Show on X.

And then finally, don't forget, if you want to get updated on a project I was working on Top Secret

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And when you see that product here in the first half of 2025, you're going to realize why we kept it top secret.

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Again, Richie Meetsterainbow.com.

Now, along those same lines,

we are joined this morning by my oldest daughter, Anastasia.

Good to see you, sweetie.

How are you?

Good.

I'm doing good.

I haven't been here in the office for a long time.

You have not been because you're in your mom era right now.

Yes.

So you're at home with her.

Yes.

With our mutually beloved autumn.

How is she this morning?

She, I mean, she was hype this morning.

You know, she loves the new like Mufasa soundtrack.

We've never seen the movie, obviously, but for some reason, she loves it.

So, and she loves her.

Like your mom, she likes a lot of music.

And she just loves to dance.

So I just told her and she dances.

I mean, she's pretty easygoing.

She is.

You were the same exact way.

Big day for you, by the way.

Yes.

You got you and your husband, Stephen.

Just a coincidence, the same name.

You and your husband, Stephen, are closing on your first house today.

So that's pretty cool.

Yes.

We're excited, and everything's been going smooth so far.

So hopefully it goes well today, but we're really excited.

You're all grown up, and I'm old.

That's what it is.

Yes, you are.

That was accurate.

Just remember.

Confirmed.

What goes around comes around.

Just remember.

Yes.

I will remember that.

But that's not why we are having you on the show this morning.

You are launching something that

I think is really important.

And I want to see it be successful, not just because you're my kid, but because you're basically a prettier clone of me, you know, that if I thought it was a terrible idea and wasn't going to work, you wouldn't be here this morning.

Yes.

I would still tell you, I love you very much, sweetie, but no, we're not putting that on Glenn Beck's show.

Yes.

All right.

So it's because I think you have

some giftedness in this area, for sure.

And then I think you have a willingness to be transparent, which I think is very important in relating to the next generation.

And there are a lot of concerns about

the direction of future generations in America.

We are living in a situation right now, for example, where for the first time in American history, the average 25-year-old American male is more likely to be living at home with a parent than in another home with a wife and kids.

So your husband is a rarity among the young men, even of his own generation.

There's a lot of confusion about the direction

for the next generation of young women.

There is a podcast, I just showing my age, and I'm certainly not a prude, but I was not even aware of

Call Me Daddy is what it's called.

Call Her Daddy.

Call Her Daddy.

Okay.

I didn't even know what it was, never heard of it in my life until one of the presidential candidates, Kamala Harris, went on the show.

Yeah.

And I, and then you texted me after the news broke and you were like, hey, dad, do you know what this is?

And I was like, I have no idea.

I never heard.

I'm 52 years old.

I don't know what it is.

Right.

And you proceeded to tell me what it was.

Okay.

And I was like, whoa, right?

And so this is now

where we go to have campaign conversations, platforms like this.

Okay.

So you kind of were also inspired by what you saw there.

Right.

And you want to counter that programming for the young women of your generation.

So tell us about that.

Yeah.

So my podcast is called Let's Talk.

And yes, the inspiration really came from that podcast, Call Her Daddy.

But a lot of it also came from my husband, Stephen, a lot of the time was listening to a lot of male conservative podcasts about specific topics.

I mean, your guys's or, you know, other ones like the Sean Ryan Show, stuff like that.

And they would cover a lot of topics.

And it made me start to realize that there aren't a lot of female podcasts that really go in depth about serious issues.

You You know, there's a lot of like political side or biblical side, but what about when, you know, I'm struggling with, for example, we did an episode recently on self-harm.

One of my closest friends has dealt with that almost her whole entire life, you know, and there's not a lot of episodes where there's just one topic, breaking it down for young women, or even I've had a lot of moms and grandmas like, this was extremely helpful in, you know, listening to this conversation about how to approach this conversation with my daughter or niece or whatever.

And so, and the whole podcast, you know, idea is that it's not meant to be sequential.

You don't have to listen to it, you know, every single episode.

It's, oh, I'm dealing with, you know, self-harm or I had my sister on to talk about her struggle with an eating disorder.

So I'm struggling with this.

So, and you can kind of go to that as a resource.

And I've had a lot of amazing women who have stepped up to talk about their journeys.

I mean, I've had Aaron's wife, Bella, on.

She was a great guest just to talk about all of her knowledge with labor and delivery and arm mutual, you know, having

kids.

She's in her mom era now, but she's a nurse.

Yes.

And so even, you know, not so serious episodes, like I just did an episode about homeschooling and talking to a close friend of mine, Rebecca, about her journey.

I have who a lot of people on the Blaze will know, Jill Savage.

That's my next guest.

I actually reached out to Todd's daughter, Ainsley.

That's going to be another one of my guests.

So it's really just...

fully women woman focused to say, listen, these are issues that the devil tries to get us at, and the devil devil likes to make us feel alone in those issues so that we don't, you know, turn to a friend, turn to a mom, turn to a grandma, turn to our pastor, et cetera.

And it can be hard, especially in this era where a lot of youth groups aren't handling these situations very well.

And I even dealt with that myself, where a lot of us were going to these youth groups, like, hey, I'm dealing with this issue.

You know, what does Jesus say about it?

Well, we're in this Bible study, like, that's not really what we're talking about, or that's too deep, or that's too inappropriate to talk about as a group.

But if I'm dealing with it, or am I'm hearing my friends dealing with it, you know, and Jesus obviously speaks about every single topic that we could possibly, you know, need, it's like, this isn't inappropriate.

This is where the devil's coming at me.

You know, how do I combat that?

But also just hearing women having a blunt conversation like, this sucks.

And or what did you deal with this?

So that's kind of where the inspiration really came from.

What has been the most surprising how many episodes have you done so far?

Six episodes.

My next with Joe will be my seventh.

What's been the most surprising reaction you've gotten so far, would you say?

I think I've had some people say that I shouldn't be so open with things that I've dealt with.

I've come out and talked about sexual assault and my own history and everything.

And I mean, my own sister came and talked about her eating disorders.

And I've had episodes where I talk a lot about my past.

And so I've had a lot of people come out and be like, that's too open.

That's too much.

And that's the whole point of the podcast is, you know, I never divulge other people's, you know, history.

Every time before I have a guest on, I send them the questions because it can get really real and it can get really serious.

And so I've given every single guest that opportunity to push back if they're, you know, if it is too open.

But the podcast point is to be that open because, like I said before, the devil likes to make us feel alone.

And that's his whole point is he wants us to make, he wants to make us feel alone.

Nobody else is struggling with what you are.

Nobody else is thinking the way you are.

Yes.

And so that's the whole point is it's when other women are like, wow, this is a lot.

I can't believe you're talking about things that you've dealt with in the past.

But that's how I'm overcoming it.

And testimony is one of the biggest tools that we can use as Christians to help not only gain people to our side, but gain people and helping them through those issues.

Because I never had anything like that growing up, a podcast to listen to or other women's open conversations to listen to when I was dealing with these things.

And every single guest I've had has said the same thing.

If I had had a podcast to listen to when I was struggling through this, even just to know that I wasn't alone, my life and the decisions I made would be different.

I wonder if that is particularly significant for women.

I mean, I've said this to men I've spoken to around the country for years, and that's why I've also been so open throughout my career with my own issues as well, because you're not alone.

Men

want to fancy themselves, particularly men that are strong with their convictions, that they are willing to stem the tide.

And that's great.

And you probably are to a point.

But eventually, if you feel isolated, you'll get worn down and broken down as well.

But I think, you know, for women, you guys are not singularly, but primarily relational creatures.

We are too, but we are primarily driven by significance more than relationship as men.

So I think this might be even more important for you guys as women, this level of openness and honesty, because

for women, what's it like if you feel disconnected relationally from other women?

How much harder is that for you to confront and overcome your own issues?

Well, and I think one of the main problems, especially when I was younger and I was dealing with a lot of these issues, was a lot of my friends were encouraging me to actually go out and do these things, you know, to have, you know, promiscuous sex or to meet random people.

Or, you know, a lot of my friends were, you know, starving themselves or things like that and so it's like so you were in the theater community here in town because you're very gifted in that area and that's an episode i talk about as well but that also introduced you to people of different belief systems at the same time and when i didn't have that community you know where our church was failing in that sense of you know not discussing those issues because they didn't want to be too much well then you only have one option which is to turn to your friends and with the friends that i had you know and i wasn't as strong in my faith because my church wasn't preparing me to have these conversations You know, I talk about in one of the episodes when you taught my worldview class at the homeschool co-op we went to.

And a lot of the, you know, kids' answers for things were, well, I'm just going to talk about the Bible with them.

I'm just going to share the Bible with them.

And then you would say, well, what happens when that doesn't work?

And it was like, there was nothing.

You know, and because that's...

It's an incantation.

Yes, because that's what their youth groups were preparing them for.

Just go out and talk about the Bible with your friends and everything will happen and everything will go down.

And that's not what happens.

And you get extremely beat down to the point where I was being encouraged to do, you know, horrible things because I didn't have that background from the church or that relational aspect of a podcast like this one to listen to to be like, okay, wow, I'm struggling with that too.

Maybe I'm not as crazy as I think or maybe I'm not as turned over to this because you can feel like that as well.

All right.

How can people tune into it?

Yeah.

So you can go to YouTube at Let's Talk Podcast or you can go to my ex account, let's Anastasia underscore hibbs as well.

And it's on Spotify, Rumble, at the same Let's Talk podcast.

All right.

We'll have a few more minutes with Anastasia here in just a moment.

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I'm still getting used to that.

I really like my son-in-law.

Just not used to

20 years with the name one way, still getting used to it being another name.

Okay, so Anastasia Hibbs, I got a question for you, sweetie, that I know a lot of people are probably wondering.

All right.

All right.

Given the sensitive nature of the issues you're talking about, but also the fact that your dad is somewhat of a public figure, okay?

Okay.

Do you have any concerns or anything about that?

I've never addressed any.

I trust you, and I want you to use your testimony to help other people the way that I've used mine.

But

it would be obvious if I didn't know the two of us and just heard this, I'd probably be wondering, well, are you a little concerned about any of this, you know, with who your dad is and those kinds of things?

So how would you answer that?

No, I'm not.

I don't think I have any concerns for it.

I think for a really long time, I've been through a lot in my past, and I have a lot of friends who have also.

And so for a really long time, I had considered writing a book, but I'm so much better well-spoken than writing.

You know, there was so much information.

So no, I wouldn't say I'm concerned at all.

I think the important part is being brave and having courage from what I've been through and what I'm even still working through to this day to help women or moms or grandmas, you know, have these conversations with their daughters or whoever.

So I don't think I have any concern over it.

As your dad, I don't either because, you know, I want you to have your own life and you have your own walk now and you have your own testimony now and you have your own family now.

And I wouldn't be much of a dad if I didn't want you to take full advantage of that and did my best to raise you to be prepared for it.

So I'm very proud of what you are doing.

And that's why I wanted to make sure to give you a free plug here, Uncle En Show.

How can people tune in, again, if they want, particularly young women, but also, I think you made a great point.

Mothers and grandmothers that want to know what's going on

with their granddaughters and daughters.

I think that's a great target audience as well.

So how can they find it?

And I think it's great also for them to listen together too if they have that kind of relationship as well.

But X Anastasia underscore hibs and then Spotify, Rumble, YouTube.

You can find me at Let's Talk podcast.

And then Anastasia, just like you think it is.

And the underscore.

Got to add the underscore there.

Yes.

And how many more episodes of this are you going to do, do you think?

I think it's, I honestly don't have a plan.

I think it's until, you know, God calls me to something else or, you know, I don't think women will ever run out of dealing with their issues and people don't we don't run out of problems none of us you know but i mean and also one of my main things was leaving this for my daughter autumn also i want her to be brave in things that she faces but also know that her mom has dealt with things and that she can come to her mom to talk about these things as well so i think honestly probably until maybe autumn's older or whatever works so

very proud of you sweetie thank you you know you're my princess and uh i love the fact that uh you are now uh doing what you can to help other people with the things that God has showed you.

And

all you can ask for as a parent is that you see your kids have an opportunity to exceed you and maybe make their own mistakes rather than the same ones that you did.

So, I think we're probably two for two in that area.

So, congratulations again today with a new house.

Thank you.

It's a big day.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

We're excited.

We're really excited.

I'm excited too.

I know you're only moving like a half an hour away, but it feels like you're moving like across the country.

It does feel like that.

I told Steve.

I mean, our family has not spent a lot of time apart from one another.

I've never been more than 15 minutes away from you guys.

So it does feel like you are going to need a passport.

Thank you, sweetie.

Congrats.

Thank you.

All right.

Hour three is next.

Congressman Thomas Massey on the speaker vote is going to join us here.

Stay tuned.

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We are on the brink of the first big political fight of 2025, who will be the next Speaker of the House.

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Happy New Year to all of you.

Steve Dace here filling in for Glenn.

Normally, I'm noon to 2 Eastern, right after the Hall of Famer here on the Blazed.

I returned to that time slot on Monday, filling in for Glenn here today.

Joined now by Congressman Thomas Massey from Kentucky, a guy I genuinely like a lot and have even more respect for.

And he joins us now here on the program.

And Congressman, Happy New Year to you.

Thanks for joining us today.

Happy New Year.

We're about to kick it off here today in Congress.

So I want to begin with just the obvious question, Congressman Massey.

So far, you're the only public voice

in the House to come out and say they will not vote for Mike Johnson for Speaker.

Let's start with why.

Why are you making that pledge here today in advance of the vote later today?

Well, you know, in case people weren't noticing, while Trump was out campaigning on an America First agenda, Mike Johnson has spent the last 18 months passing through Congress, shoving it through an America last agenda.

He authorized spying on Americans without a warrant.

He sent $60 billion to Ukraine.

These are not the things that Trump ran on.

Why do we think he's going to suddenly be different when the new Congress happens?

Now, if you needed a recent example or reason why I'm voting no, just look back to the week before Christmas where we got the Christmas omnibus.

I put on my social media video of Mike Johnson saying we would never do a Christmas omnibus again, but he rolls out this 1,547-page bill.

I suppose he didn't show it to Trump, but these are the laws that Trump will be operating under when he gets in office because we just passed them.

And fortunately, Trump said, I don't pass that, and a lot of us wouldn't vote for it either, so that went down.

And then Mike Johnson didn't have the courage to tell Donald Trump he couldn't get a clean debt limit increase across the finish line.

So what did he do?

He drug us all through that where we all looked bad.

He put a clean debt limit increase on the floor right before Christmas, attached it to funding the government so you'd be blamed for shutting down the government if you didn't vote for the debt limit.

That fell flat, forcing 38 Republicans to vote against what was

something the president wanted, but Mike Johnson didn't have the courage or the charisma to get the to tell President Trump it couldn't be done or to get it across the finish line here in Congress by guaranteeing the spending cuts to go along with the debt limit increase.

In any case, he's not qualified.

He's not the right

ideology.

And we've seen this play before.

Eight years ago to this day, on January 3rd,

we elected Paul Ryan as Speaker.

Donald Trump

had endorsed Paul Ryan.

I was the only Republican who stood up that day and voted against Paul Ryan.

I said, this is going to be a disaster.

Turned out to be a disaster.

Paul Ryan worked against Donald Trump and is still working against Donald Trump.

Why do you think President Trump has therefore, nevertheless, endorsed Mike Johnson?

If I had to guess, he would say, if he were here, Congressman, he would say, the last time we went through this, you guys took nearly a month to find a speaker.

I don't have that kind of time to waste.

We've got to hit the ground running right away on fulfilling this mandate.

And I don't believe there's somebody else out there you can demonstrate is better that can get the 218 votes necessary to succeed.

So it's just, it is what it is.

My guess is that's what the president would say.

How would you respond to that?

Well, if he doesn't get the 218 votes on this first round, he's definitely

not the guy who can get to 218 and not the only guy who can get to 218.

Let's remember why Mike Johnson got elected at the end of all those votes back when they got rid of Kevin McCarthy.

He got elected because he had done nothing and because he had served in no form of leadership and so nobody knew anything about him.

We had voter fatigue and nobody disliked him.

So he was the least objectionable person in the House of Republican, in the House of Representatives.

Everybody liked Mike.

That is not the case today.

He's one of the most objectionable candidates.

So he doesn't hold the title of least objectionable that got him elected back in, I think it was October of last year.

Let's find somebody who can at least do the job.

The best thing that could happen is if the Freedom Caucus guys who are on the bubble right now, they haven't said if they're going to vote for him or haven't said if they're going to vote against him, if they could get off the pot, if they could make up their minds, and then Mike Johnson could read the tea leaves, Donald Trump could read the tea leaves, and Mike Johnson wouldn't even have to be on the ballot in the first round.

But

what's going to happen is they're going to drag us through this, and it's going to be at about 1 o'clock Eastern Standard Time is when that vote will start, roughly.

That's when it started two years ago.

And if he's got the votes, he's going to be the speaker.

If he doesn't, well, it's the people who wouldn't who try to surprise us all today who you're going to have to look to and say, why couldn't you make up your mind the day before?

Or why couldn't you make up your mind before Christmas like Massey did?

Who do you think is demonstrably better than Mike Johnson, who could get to 218 and not have it take three weeks?

Is this something you guys would stay through the weekend and not go home until you figured that out?

If Mike Johnson were to not be retained, how would that work itself out?

Yeah, absolutely.

We could actually get it done this evening.

Okay.

There are at least three qualified candidates.

There are a number more that I would vote for.

We would stay here either this evening and get it done by tonight, or we would stay here through the weekend.

I'm not going anywhere.

I have plans to stay here this weekend.

We're going to be right back here on Monday.

And it only takes, you know, we voted 15 times for, I think, McCarthy or 20 times, whatever it was, 15.

It only takes about an hour to go through the roll call.

Let's put another candidate up as soon as Mike Johnson goes down, if he goes down, and let's get this thing done.

Now, I know everybody wants me to name a person.

Here's the problem with naming a person.

First of all, I'm the only one who says I'm going to vote against Mike Johnson, so I'm the lightning rod and I'm persona non-grata among a world of people who thinks that Congress works for the president.

Congress works with the president.

Given that I'm a lightning rod, I don't want to transfer that lightning to a candidate, and then they'll be persona non-grata and be disqualified by virtue of me calling their name right here on your radio show.

So I have a name in mind.

I have actually three in mind.

And

I'll cycle through them as we go through these series of votes and we'll see who gets the votes.

But it's ridiculous to say that Mike Johnson out of 219 Republicans is the only one who can be elected to speaker and that's why we should elect him.

Thomas, I was talking about this before you came on.

You can always tell when I'm not sure about something, I don't comment on it or take a strong stand.

Okay.

And on this one, I can see this both ways.

I don't know how anyone can objectively not come to the conclusion Mike Johnson has been a weak speaker, a weak leader.

I don't, I mean, I think you'd have to be a member of the Johnson family to come to any other conclusion around his payroll.

The question is,

what is the process for his successor?

Given how divided and narrow the majority is in the House to begin with,

the reality is, you know, somebody like you or Chip Roy, that a lot of our listeners would love this speaker could not get to 218 because of some of the other kinds of elements that exist within the Republican Party.

So who could actually get to 218 that could be trusted to enact Trump's mandate and agenda?

And while I don't trust Mike Johnson to enact it, the argument is he is so weak and desirous and needing of Trump's, you know, power to retain his own.

He'll do essentially anything Donald Trump tells him, so let's just get on with it.

How would you counter that argument?

Well, first of all, as I said before, Congress doesn't work for the president.

We work with the president.

And if you think you can get a weak speaker and put it in neutral and just have a speaker who rubber stamps or follows whatever the president wants, you're actually not going to get the president's agenda.

The swamp is alive and well in the halls of Congress.

You need a fighter who's going to fight for President Trump's agenda in the Senate and in the House.

Mike Johnson is not a fighter.

He has never fought in his life.

And

at the first sign of trouble, he runs the Democrats.

Right now, he's going through a job interview.

It's kind of interesting.

He is talking to the people who are undecided.

And if he has the skills to bring them on board to negotiate with them, you know, Chip Roy, Victoria Sparks, a lot of the Freedom Caucus members, Andy Harris, Andy Biggs, those folks are talking to Mike Johnson right now.

I consider it a job interview.

If Mike Johnson has the skills to bring them on board to bend a little bit to the conservative wing that are closest to Trump, then maybe he could be Speaker.

But if he fails to bring them on board, he won't be Speaker.

And it's actually a good litmus test for him, what he's going through right now.

Final question, Congressman.

I think you just need one other member to join you, right, for the chair to be vacated.

When they take the vote here in about two hours, what do you suspect is going to happen?

Oof, I don't know.

I'd say there's a, I honestly, the way the swamp works, I never bet against the swamp.

I always fight against it, but I never bet against it.

I'd say there's a 70% chance Mike Johnson's going to be Speaker, that everybody but me will eventually vote for him, even though they know he's the wrong guy, because that's just the way the swamp works.

But if one more person joins me, I think that will embolden half a dozen more.

And I think the second round, he loses more votes.

The third round, he loses more votes.

President Trump calls him up, says, Mike, I thought you were the guy turns out you're not the guy step out of the way and i think mike will keep trying until trump tells him to give up and at that point uh hopefully you know i joke i say they're going to be my colleagues are going to step on each other's backs trying to get to the top of the heap once mike johnson pulls out of the race and that's how it would go down and there are there are qualified candidates i think you need somebody who's already got a staff of 50 people this is why it would be hard for me to do the job i've got like six people that work for me in D.C.

This was Mike Johnson's problem when he went into the job.

He hadn't been majority leader.

He hadn't been whip.

He hadn't been a chairman.

So he didn't have a cadre of 50 staff who were battle tested.

So I think given the situation we're in, that's the kind of person you need to get.

Somebody who's already, they're not swampy, but they've got enough time and experience and staff.

here to get the job done.

Congressman Thomas Massey, always good to talk to you, brother.

Thank you.

Take care.

Thanks, Dave.

Bye-bye.

You bet.

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All right, Todders and Aaron McIntyre, you guys sat there and heard me discuss with Congressman Thomas Massey why he is so far the only vote to vacate the chair and not have Mike Johnson remain speaker and is hoping others will join him.

I went into this undecided.

All right, so let's pretend you guys are members of the House Freedom Caucus.

You're undecided yourselves.

After you listen to Thomas Massey, you now think what?

Aaron, I'll start with you.

I would probably vote for Mike Johnson, and here's why.

This is just a systemic problem, problem, not only in Congress as a whole, but on the Republican side of the aisle in Congress.

It is such a cesspit there.

I'm kind of viewing this,

viewing all of the machinations and all the political machinery.

I'm kind of viewing that how I view foreign policy.

I'm not going to be super dogmatic about it because this is a problem generations in the making.

You look over at the Democrat side of the aisle.

Look over at there.

Are any of them, do you think for a moment any of them will vote for whomever they put up that's to the right of Bernie Sanders?

No, they're all in lockstep right now.

Republicans, not so much.

That's a generational problem.

So five years ago, I would have been dogmatically right behind Thomas Massey.

and Chip Roy and the House Freedom Caucus.

Let's just blow this thing up.

What do we got to lose?

Now I'm like, hey,

if you want to throw

a sabote into the machinery, if you want to be a saboteur here and try to make enough noise to affect change for a positive direction, I'm not going to criticize you for that.

But at the same time,

I'm reading the writing on the wall here, and it's just a really difficult situation.

If I was even Trump, I don't know

what I would be pulling for here.

Let's just get a Congress together and see what we can do.

That's probably where I would be at because Congress is broken.

I think you have to start your analysis with that.

Congress is just broken.

So do the best that you can.

Shoot for what you can shoot for if you can.

And

try to vest as much unity out of the Republican side of the aisle as possible, just knowing that over on the other side, their unity is just titanium tough and strong.

So do I love Mike Johnson?

Do I think he's a strong leader?

No.

I'm just

analyzing things the way they are, not the way I would like them to be.

All right.

Todd, what say you?

I understand that take.

I have a different take.

I'm with Massey.

You need a fighter.

And Trump should understand

that by now.

The guy, and I think you framed the question excellently, Steve,

he stands for nothing.

He just

so he'll just do what Trump ever...

Trump tells him to do?

No, he won't, because of the swamp and the power that it has.

You absolutely need a fighter.

And Trump is,

he very rarely admits his faults.

He admitted he did not get personnel right the first time around.

It's obvious he's getting it right right this time.

People are excited, and that's the other point.

You don't just need a fighter in there, you need the people who respect the fighter and then will back him up instead of just saying, oh, these guys are all just empty suits.

No one's going to come to Mike Johnson's defense.

But if you put an RFK Jr.

in there, a Pete Hegseth, people like this, people are like, ah, our people, I got your back on this.

Go to the wall for that person.

Donald Trump needs to get in the game on that level and find out who that person is.

Todd say something there that persuade you at at all, Aaron?

No, because, again, I'm looking at this.

I would like that to be the case.

I don't see who the figure is who could do that right now.

I just don't.

And maybe one will come up.

I mean, Thomas Massey said he's got a name in mind that he would like to put up for a vote for a speaker.

Maybe, you know, I could be persuaded, but based on the available evidence I have right now, you're not going to fix a generational problem overnight.

I don't know how many times this needs to be illustrated.

It's, again, a generational and systemic problem on the right.

And it goes back to how we behave during different congressional primaries.

Do our people actually show up for more Thomas Masseys, for more House Freedom Caucus people?

They don't, generally speaking.

And so that's a generational and systemic problem that has to be fixed, I believe, first before we can even have some of the conversations that you would like to have.

What do you think?

Well, I don't know who that person is either, but we haven't heard Donald Trump just say,

this is who I want, and get outside the box like he did this time.

And it clearly worked.

It excited people, including going.

The speaker of the house can be somebody who's not even in the house.

I just want to say, I want to go all in.

I want to go big or I want to go home.

Because the way we're doing things just sucks.

I got to tell you, I think you both make compelling arguments.

And the reason why is because you are both speaking to the reality of the situation that we are in.

Todd is correct.

We do need a strong hand as speaker.

Aaron is correct.

Systemically, when has this hand, I mean, Aaron was born in 1993.

A year later is when Newt Gingrich became speaker, won the speakership in the Contract with America election.

And then those first six months of 95, as they ramrodded that contract through and worked all hours of the day, that's really the last time

that we had on the right, a truly um active aggressive initiative-taking speaker of the house that's the last time so you know you and i are operating from a framework that we can remember that we were just coming of age politically during that era in fact that was one of the seminal moments of you and i's generation politically right yes aaron's never lived

in that ecosystem on the right you can't can't recall that and there's evidence for both of your positions man it's a very tough call.

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All right, Steve Dace back here filling in on the Glenn Beck program.

We ran out of time there.

I guess I can't be gutless.

So after listening to Congressman Thomas Massey and listening to Aaron McIntyre and Todders, and the two of you each taking opposite views, for all the reasons I came into the conversation with Massey not knowing my own, because I agree with the both of you simultaneously.

And I think your rationales have a strong basis in evidence and fact,

which is why this is

such a tough call for me.

So, then, what would I do if I were in Congress today?

What would I do?

Ultimately,

whether Trump's mandate gets fulfilled fulfilled or not is up to Donald Trump.

The truth of the matter is D.C.

sucks so bad.

If you go back and just look at his first presidency, why is it the stuff that Trump could unilaterally, largely unilaterally act on, executive orders, foreign policy?

Why were those the greatest successes of his first term?

And the stuff that required much more congressional involvement were the things that were left unfulfilled.

Same thing is largely going to exist here, even though the names are different than the first time Trump was president, but you're dealing with a way narrow margin in the House.

Mitch McConnell is not glitching out anymore as Senate majority leader.

But now you have John Thune, who's a younger, dumber version of McConnell.

So basically, you're going to get none of this, all the stuff about McConnell you didn't like, and then none of the stuff you actually kind of admired.

Okay.

So this is all on the ample shoulders of Donald Trump.

Nothing good out of DC.

Nothing.

Nothing good will come out of DC without Donald Trump having his thumb on the scale.

Do we all at least agree on that?

Right.

In many respects, Donald Trump is going to be Speaker of the House.

Whether the name is Mike Johnson, you're Johnson, Johnsonville Sausage, whoever is the name on

the marquee, without

Donald Trump exerting the amount of leverage that he has with the mandate and the people behind him this first year, nothing is happening.

Can we all agree on that?

Yeah, because even if we do have a strong speaker of the kind I'm talking about, he can't do anything that he wants to get done if it runs confidently.

Because the margins are too low.

Right.

So then, here's what I would do.

Before we voted,

I would want to have a direct conversation.

If I were in Congress, before we voted, I'd have a direct conversation with the president.

And I would say, Mr.

President, ultimately, this party sucks.

And you know this and I know this.

A lot of the people that are up here aren't really for you.

You know this and I know this.

But they're afraid of you and your base.

So nothing good is going to happen unless you do it.

So I need you to tell me, because Mike Johnson is a chronically weak leader, demonstrated.

However, as Aaron pointed out, he's also a hydra, part of a system, man, from Boehner to Ryan, we've seen Denny Hastert, okay, we've seen this all before many times.

So the only, I'd say, Mr.

President, the only uncommon denominator here, sir, is you.

So if you want me to vote for Mike Johnson, here's what I need from you.

I need your assurance

that your thumb is so far up.

his backside

that he cannot take a breath into his diaphragm without your consent.

He literally cannot breathe.

He is just a puppet on a string, a complete and total puppet on your behalf.

And you are the marionette.

You're the Svengali here.

And at the minute some strings break off and the puppet's not any good anymore, you'll break him off and put in a better puppet.

Because that's the best we can do here.

But I need you, I need to hear from you that you understand fully that's who this guy is.

You understand fully.

Because whatever BS he's selling you at UFC fights and everything else when he's trying to hang out with the cool kids for the first time in his life, it's just that.

It's all BS.

But you, sir, you have got some belief and faith in.

And that's where the people, more importantly, have placed their faith is in you.

So this is all on you now.

And you know that.

That's why they tried to kill you twice.

They know it too.

So I need to know that this is the vehicle that you went to the lot and you chose this vehicle and you're the one driving it.

I need to know that.

And if you tell me that you know that this is all true and that you agree with what I said, then you have my vote.

You have my vote.

This guy doesn't.

This guy's got nothing.

But that's what I think I would need

is I'd have to talk to him directly and make sure we're all adults here and in full acknowledgement of what the real situation is.

And if I I was satisfied with that conversation, then I would vote

for Johnson out of deference to Trump and his mandate.

But I'd need to have that conversation first.

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All right, so today we have talked worldview, big picture philosophy.

We've gotten into the big policy fights, as well as the big personnel fight today with the speaker vote about an hour and a half from right now with Congressman Thomas Massey earlier here in this hour.

Let's get way more practical, though, because before we can act on that worldview and before we can even have fights like who should be speaker, we've got to actually win elections.

And there's a practical aspect of that as well, particularly in this new digital era.

I've made the analogy before that if you see Trump as a figure is very Lutheran.

I mean, the similarities in terms of persona between Martin Luther and Donald Trump are pretty prevalent.

Well, there would have never been a Martin Luther in a Reformation without Johannes Gutenberg in the printing press.

And that innovation is what allowed Luther's message to get to the masses when previous would-be reformers got burned at the stake.

Similarly, there's no Trump 2.0 without Elon Musk in X.

Never happens.

Does not get re-elected without Musk providing a tool of objective dissemination of information in the information war and the biggest one on planet Earth, which is why you see them already trying to undo that relationship as we speak because of the power of what it produced in its nascent stages in this last election.

And that gets us to what can we do down here in the grassroots.

A buddy of mine, Robert Salvador, has a company, Polytech, I want to tell you about because I've seen it go to work in this last election cycle, in a state legislative race in my own own state, school board races across the country, other state legislative races, congressional races, like earlier this year or last year for Congressman Thomas Massey as well.

Because what you guys do over there, Robert, this is the kind of big dollar data that, frankly, a lot of grassroots candidates cannot afford and cannot get access to.

And yet, even in state legislative races, Democrats are going to make it available to their people to bludgeon ours with.

You're trying to do something about that.

Absolutely.

Well, it's great to be back with you, Steve.

And yeah, you know, one of the things I've always said is that Republicans win on policy, but we lose on media and technology and the things that get out the vote.

And Democrats have had a deep and strong tech apparatus since 2008 when Barack Obama implemented it.

And one of the things you said to me, even in the Republican Party, One of the reasons that everyday people, everyday American patriots, you know, blue-collar people, the people who should lead us, one of the reasons they don't win often is because the rhinos in the party control all of the data, control all of the tools, all of the media, all of the technology that makes it impossible for someone without a political background or major backing to win.

But with advances in modern AI and data analytics, now even the little guy can have a chance.

There is data on everyone out there.

We've seen it for years that big tech will show you your favorite shirt every time you you scroll on Instagram or LinkedIn or something like that.

That's targeted advertising.

And that's because everyone creates a bunch of data.

Data is the new oil.

And if we can utilize it as a party, we can get the right people elected as opposed to the far left and the rhinos who have really gotten us to where we are right now.

Talk about some of the successes, Robert, that your group has had.

with using this data on a grassroots level.

And I mean, I think of how this could help groups like Moms for Liberty that are trying to impact school boards nationwide.

But in terms of revenue, those are Herculean fundraising chores.

If you can perfect this data and make it more available to the grassroots, I mean, you're making it way more cost-effective and less prohibitive to truly take on swamps all over the country.

Exactly.

We always say that the three things that make a winning campaign are a good candidate, a good door knocking and get out and vote apparatus, and then a good digital game.

Especially in the local races, name recognition means so much.

And if you can use data to figure out who are the right people that should be voting for you, who are the people that you want to get your message to, what is the message that matters to them, hitting them with the right message at the right time, every time is so important.

I can give an example.

Obviously, someone that we both know starting in Kentucky was TJ Roberts.

He is an up-and-coming lawyer, great legal mind, America first patriot.

He was running in the primary against someone who was a big-time rhino who had previously held that seat that he was running for.

There was a bigger problem in that the broader seat, the broader district is Thomas Massey's district, who's obviously ultra popular, who was just on your show.

Well, the guy that our candidate was running against locally was a man named Ed Massey.

So he had the same last name as Thomas Massey, but he was not the good guy like Thomas Massey is.

So for a good America First Patriot like TJ Roberts, that can be a problem if you can't get your name out there.

But TJ was smart enough to utilize digital services, utilize data, figure out who are the people in his district he needs to speak to?

What does his district care about?

And he was able to see that in the data.

He was a great candidate himself.

And then he hit all the doors in addition to utilizing our data services like we have at Polytech.

So we were able to get him in front of all of his possible constituents, get the right messages out there.

When we first met T.J.

Roberts, he was losing.

60 days later, he won his election 75% to 25%.

So that goes to show the power of this technology when it's used the right way.

And if Republicans start stacking wins with technology, we could have 10 years of America first patriots winning elections, and that's what this country needs.

And there's only so much to go around.

So obviously, a lot of this on the right is going to be focused on higher offices like president and things of that nature, which of course makes that a much a higher value proposition and cost prohibitive for most people.

But if you can bring it an alternative down here to the grassroots, one of my best buddies, I saw your group just help him win a state Senate seat over the highest ranked Democrat in my state, who in the legislature, who is up for re-election this year.

And he beat him, just a guy that owns a plumbing business, man, great guy, but he's up against the Democratic machine, and he beat him by like 50 votes after a recount, right?

So this could, is it safe to say, Robert, I mean, we could literally have all kinds of people and audiences like this in the past who thought, I couldn't run for city council, couldn't run for state legislature, I couldn't run for school board, I don't have the name ID or the finances.

This could really, this technology really level the playing field for an audience like this.

Absolutely.

You gave a great example with Mike Pike in the Iowa State Senate.

You know, he's a plumber.

He's an everyday blue-collar guy, you know, a father of daughters and just felt called to get involved because of what he was seeing and some of the terrible things, you know, like men and women's sports that he was seeing.

And to your point, the Democrats, the Iowa Democrats put big resources into that race, big money into that race.

But when you have technology that can really highlight the good people, not just highlight, hey, I have more money as a candidate, but highlight the things that voters care about, it can make a big difference.

And Mike Pike won by 43 votes over what many in the Democratic Party of Iowa thought was a promising incumbent who would have a long future.

And so that blueprint can be taken all around the country.

You mentioned mobs for liberty.

You couldn't, we run school board races.

We run congressional races.

We even helped the Miami-Dade sheriff, Sheriff Rosie Bordero Stutz down in Miami-Dade.

So the point is, some of the most important decisions in people's lives are made at the local level.

I mean, you look back to COVID.

In many cases, it was the local ordinances and the local police who were deciding if they were going to enforce those horrible COVID mandates.

So if we can take this technology around the country and help people who actually deserve to win elections, it's going to make a difference for America.

You could look at the smallest levels, at these local races like we've been talking about, or even at the presidential race.

You know, Donald Trump at the highest level did all of this very well.

He was a great candidate with a huge voice this cycle.

He had a massive get out and vote operation.

you know, groups like the PA Ballot Chase and Cliff Maloney, who we work with in Pennsylvania.

And then obviously, as everyone knows, Trump had probably the best digital game we've ever seen.

One of the most impressive venture capitalists out there, Mark Andreessen, was on the Joe Rogan show not too long ago and basically said that the next election will probably be the first all-digital election.

He said that this one might have been like the first spark of it, but in the future, we will have elections won purely by digital means by putting out the right ads, the right emails, the right Facebook messages, the right influencers that you work with, the right

having the data to put the right commercial in the right place.

So, this can really make a difference for the Republican Party and for America and taking back our country that the Democrats have taken for the last 10, 15 years.

Robert, I've got less than a minute here.

People want to learn more about what you guys do.

Where can they go?

Sure.

You could follow us on Twitter, follow me at Robert J.

Salvador, or you could visit us online, republic.com/slash polytech.

That's republic.com/slash P-O-L-I-T-E-C-H.

Let's save America together.

Amen.

Good to see you, brother.

Thank you so much, Steve, and everything that you do.

Quebec, appreciate all of you here at the Glenn Beck program.

Thanks for letting us fill in.

We'll see you Monday on the Blaze.

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