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Pat Gray joins Glenn and Stu to discuss some of Trump’s Cabinet picks and explains why he supports Pete Hegseth for secretary of defense.  American Path President Clint Brown joins to give the current state of the Senate leadership race and makes the case for a private vote for Senate majority leader. Author of "You Will Own Nothing" Carol Roth joins to share her opinion on Trump’s potential treasury pick and how long it wi take to recover from Biden’s economy.
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So, Stu thinks that I'm on a bender.

You'll hear that today.

We talked about Elon and Vivek being put in charge of Doge, the Department of Government Efficiency, and how great it is.

I'm really optimistic.

It's like a freaky Friday on the program because Stu's not as optimistic.

Clint Brown discusses the fight for the Senate and the majority leader today, what options President Trump has to avoid obstruction from the potential new majority leader.

And Carol Roth helps shed some light on a potential Treasury secretary pick.

Can we find someone that hasn't happily worked with George Soros?

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Pat.

Pat Gray joins us now from Pat Gray Unleashed.

It's with us.

And I have some disappointing news for you, Pat.

You've known Glenn a long time, gone through a lot of his times of struggle.

Yeah.

And I regret to inform you he's back on the sauce.

He's drunk this morning.

Yes, yes, it's happened.

Drugs.

I am alcoholic.

I'm so

optimistic.

I don't know how else to deal with this person other than to accuse him of drug use because he's so optimistic about what's going on.

And I have been for several days.

I know.

It's usually a bad thing, too.

But it's not this time.

It's not this time?

No, it's not this time.

Multiple days.

It's called a bender.

That's what they call it.

Oh, that's not.

No, it's not.

I mean, part of it probably is a relief.

Pat, been waiting for someone to stand up and say,

we're going to the moon.

And we're coming back within a decade.

How long have I been saying we need somebody to give us a grand vision?

Yeah, a long time.

The guy has a grand vision.

It is exciting what's going on right now.

It really is.

We're like hitting a new.

This could very well be the golden era of America if he can get this stuff done.

And how much do you love the Elon Vivek thing?

Yeah, that's the part I'm most excited about.

I love it.

I love it, love it, love it.

It's just incredible.

It is so great.

Pete Hagseth, Secretary of Defense.

That's fantastic.

Yeah, now, why do you like Pete?

Because he's a military guy.

He's a no-nonsense guy.

He's conservative.

He has quite a resume, too.

Yeah, I'm sick of it.

The way that the media has reacted is like, who?

You mean the weekend Fox News host?

And I was a little bit like that at first, too.

But then when you dig a little bit deeper into

Pete Hagseth.

Right.

And like,

you look at

the media is just like, oh.

Gosh, well, can you believe this guy?

Who is this guy?

It's like as if they know all the names of the generals that would normally get a gig like this.

Like they have no idea who this major media personality is like they know who he is they're just trying to demean him um and i so i think like it's that part of it is just ridiculous he has a real strong

resume

before this news yeah yeah um he i think he was a major wasn't he did he rise to the level of major he was uh national guard

which isn't usually something i don't did he see combat yeah he did he he was over in iraq wasn't he yeah oh yeah he's multiple times yeah and he has a bronze star.

2001.

Right.

By his description, he's pulling people out of burning vehicles in Afghanistan.

He is a,

I think, a well-balanced individual.

He's not

necessarily the best personally.

They're going to have some opposition research on PC.

He's had some problems with women and everything else.

I mean, far as, you know,

liking them too much.

Yeah, liking them too much.

Liking too many of them at the same time.

Right, right.

But I mean, you know, that's well known.

It's been.

But he also literally wrote the book on ending wokeism

in the Pentagon.

Yeah.

So he may be, I mean, how many people went, did Trump go through the last time?

This guy may not be

somebody that is going to take us through everything.

He might be the guy that Donald Trump says, go in there,

just

rinse it all out.

Get all of this wokeism, DEI stuff, because you literally wrote the book on it.

You know where it is.

Get it all out.

That stuff is toast, right?

All toast.

You know, there are how many employees, you know, hundreds of them in like HHS that are just diversity employees.

They're all gone, right?

That's all gone.

Don't you think?

Yeah, I don't think there's going to be a lot of stuff.

No, there's not stuff he's really going to be targeting.

Oh, no.

But this is the, now you were saying, you've been incredibly positive here.

You did mention a dark side, the ducks.

Okay, so here's, and

it's not a dark side.

I just don't want people to think, like when I'm really, really pessimistic, everybody's like, you're so depressing to listen to.

Yeah, I know, but

for God, okay, what did I say?

I could come up with a million ways this falls apart, but to thread this needle in this election, it's going to take God.

And I think God acted.

I do.

So here we are on the other side.

We see that God is not neutral in the affairs of men.

We have to stay focused on him and doing the right thing for him, not get too big for our britches, not be sitting here going, you know what, we're going to smash them.

And that feels good because we are, but we're doing it for the right reasons and we want to bring everybody together.

Blessed be the peacemakers.

It doesn't mean, you know what, let's all get together.

It means I'm standing up.

Bonhoeffer is a great peacemaker.

What did he do?

He tried to assassinate Hitler.

I mean, the real Hitler, not the latest Hitler that everybody's talking about.

The real Hitler.

He stood up against all odds.

He lost his peace to be able to fight for God's peace.

Okay?

So We have that fight in front of us.

They're not going to sit down and roll over.

They're not.

But for the first time, perhaps in my lifetime, since Ronald Reagan and Ronald Reagan was good, but not

like this team.

Okay.

Reagan's time was different, different problems, everything else.

But Reagan

stood up and he didn't care what anybody else said.

And he said, that is evil, and we're going to destroy it.

And everybody said, no, don't say that.

That's Trump.

This is evil.

You're not going to mutilate our children.

You're not going to take the rights away from people.

You're going to return this to the hands of the people.

What's happening with DEI is evil and destructive, and we're going to take it down.

What's happening to our country is evil and destructive because you're saying America shouldn't exist anymore.

No,

that you can't do it without some big government.

No, that's evil.

Trust the people.

We finally have a captain who's saying that.

So in the midst of battle,

look to the Lord and then look to the leader who is saying, remember,

when this burns up on launch, on the launch pad and we lose eight people,

we know, we knew, we should have known that that's going to happen when you're doing something this massive.

Don't cut the cord on it.

Remember, when they burned, when we burned up, what was it, Apollo 8 on the launch pad and all of those people died, there were people who were like, see, this is too big.

We shouldn't do this.

This is going to be bad.

No,

keep

going.

That's what we have to remember.

Be a peacemaker.

Keep

going for what will bring people peace.

So I think it's a downside, but it's only if you don't know that that's coming.

A fight of your life is coming soon.

What's your optimism level on this stuff, Pat?

Do you think they can get a lot of this stuff done?

I hope so.

But I always think when they have control of both houses of Congress and the presidency, they're going to get something done, and they never do.

So it's tampered with a little bit of...

Have you seen a president like this?

I mean, I am counting on Donald Trump being a man of his word.

I didn't believe that in 16.

Okay, I didn't believe he was going to do it.

Right.

When he said, I'm going to make Jerusalem the capital.

Yeah, right.

Sure, you you are.

And he did.

And he did.

Well, he didn't make it the capital.

It actually just is the capital, but he moved our

embassy there.

I mean,

he now knows more than he knew the first time, a lot more.

Look at the way

he's laying this all out.

He's not letting us guess what's going on.

He's releasing these videos every couple of days to say, this is this section, and this is how we're fighting.

This is not by the seat of your pants.

This is well planned and it's not Agenda 2025.

It's his agenda and it is taking everything apart that we've all dreamt of forever.

I'm in this fight, man.

I am all in on this fight.

If this is the way this guy is going to go, I'm all in.

I'm all in.

Yeah, I mean, that's, if he can succeed at this, it would be one of the, I mean, we look back at the Calvin Coolidge presidency and say that, how did he do that?

He cut 50% of the government.

Like, how is that even possible?

So that's the type of heavy lift he's looking at.

Because now you can't even cut the increase in spending.

Right.

They're pissed about that.

You can't cut it 1%.

Yep.

So, yeah, 50% in two years was amazing.

But you know what?

Cutting,

you still have to cut the programs because it will be unmanageable with 50% of the employees, but you cut the salaries of 50% of the people.

Do you know how much that saves alone?

A lot.

A lot.

A lot.

And cutting out the Department of Education, which he has promised to do already,

that would be huge.

But that's going to be a bloodbath to get done.

So what if

Okay, all right.

So

let's put

I want to I want to put you on the spot here a little bit.

If he doesn't get rid of the Department of Education, are you disappointed?

I don't mean like disappointed, like, oh, gosh, I wish we had done that, but like, is this a failure if he doesn't do that?

Is it a failure if he doesn't want to cut the government by 50%?

Depends.

What has he done?

I mean, if we don't get any of this stuff done, I'm back to the depressed Glenn of we have no chance.

Okay?

Right.

Because it's true.

Because he's.

He seems to honestly

want to do this.

Correct.

Yeah.

And he has the will, and he has, obviously, a mandate.

We have always said you can't eat around the edges.

You can't do that.

You've got to take the whole thing and throw it out,

restore it back to the constitutional principles.

That's what he's saying to do.

He's not saying, well, you know what?

I'd like to reduce this by 5%.

He's saying this is wrong constitutionally.

We're going to throw it out.

We're going to restore it by 2026.

July 4th, 2026, the 250th anniversary, we're going to give America back to Americans on our 250th birthday.

That's brilliant.

And that is something that he's pointing to the sky and saying, not in 10 years.

We're going to return this Constitution back to you in a year and a half.

Oh, yeah.

I love it.

It's shooting for the stars.

Yes.

Yes.

And if we only get to the moon.

That would be great.

It'd be great.

It'd be great.

Because I would be absolutely over the moon thrilled if they cut the government 10%.

I would be over the moon thrilled with that.

Do I think that's going to happen?

Probably not.

Like, what if we spent 6.2?

So you're telling me, how about this?

2026, if they spend,

what do they spend, 6.2 trillion?

You guys should do another massive bet.

5,000.

That's what I'm leaning into.

That's what I'm leaning into.

No, but like, if they spend instead 5.6 trillion,

I would be over the moon thrilled with that outcome.

I don't, I, this is just the way this city works.

If he can pull that, just that off, I will be over the moon thrilled with it.

Me too.

I'm, I'm a bit skeptical that he's going to be able to do it.

Not because he doesn't have the will, not because he's not the president with a mandate, not because he's not very, very capable.

It's just there's a lot of crap in the way.

Yeah, and it's hard.

And there's a lot of things that could happen.

I mean, we're going to talk about this next hour.

What happened with Biden and the fudging of the numbers, the economic numbers?

Oh, we're the strongest we've ever been.

Not true.

Now those numbers are all being revised, and now we are going to start seeing them for what they really are.

We are on the verge of a recession.

We are on a verge of a really bad 1980s recession.

So he's being handed garbage because they lied about it.

So I don't know what that's going to mean and what that's going to take to dig us out.

But if he gets his way and he lowers, and I mean dramatically lowers income tax, even if we had a flat tax of 18%,

flat tax of everything, 18%.

I'd be throwing away from that.

It would be unbelievable.

Just that, I'd be sure.

Just that

would push us into a new stratosphere that would give us time to save the Republic.

It'd be awesome.

Awesome.

I love it.

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Well, let's say hello to the one and only Carol Roth.

Hello, Carol.

Hi, Glenn.

How are you?

I'm pretty good.

I'm pretty good.

You know, I'm feeling very optimistic, and I don't want anybody to knock me down from the street, but I'm feeling like we finally have

everything I have asked for in a leader, somebody who is pointing to the horizon and giving us a huge goal like JFK did.

We're going to go to the moon and come back within 10 years.

I think with the Doge announcement yesterday, I think he's saying, I'm going to cut the regulations.

I'm going to cut the size of government and I'm going to give the Constitution and the government back to the people by July 4th, 2026, which is our 250th birthday.

It's exciting.

It is exciting.

Is it an

uncomfortable place for you to be?

Because I know that you're usually a contrarian.

You're the person who gets on the boat and looks for the exits.

Like, are you dealing with all this optimism?

Okay.

I don't know yet.

I don't know.

It's weird.

I haven't been this optimistic.

I don't even know for 15, 20 years.

I have been just seeing the burning down.

And I recognize that this is not going to be easy.

They are going to throw,

they're not going to roll over.

They are going to throw everything at us.

So it's going to be ugly.

But from now until, you know, things get ugly, I think we should enjoy this time

and, you know, mentally prepare, but take a breath and just relax, you know?

Amen to that.

I'm with you on that.

We have had such a weight on our shoulders, like you said, for a couple of decades and it's really accelerated in the last five years.

And the fact of the matter is that now we do have optimism.

We have a mandate.

We have a path forward.

And as you said, it's not an easy path to navigate.

It's one that is full of, you know, pebbles and rocks and barriers.

But that being said, there's a path.

And so, yes, we always need to be prepared.

You know, that's a non-starter, but we cannot live with this giant cloud.

We do have to, you know, hope for the best and make that optimism self-fulfilling, do what we can to push forward this opportunity for the American dream to be seized by everybody.

Okay.

I don't believe anybody's appointment until you see it on Truth Social.

Okay.

Right.

I personally think

he's checking the boat for leaks right now.

You know, I think some of these names are just being said, oh, you know, the only person I told was you.

So he's checking his own boat for leaks, I think.

But one of the names being touted and thrown around for the treasury pick is somebody I don't know.

Scott Besant?

Beset.

Bassett.

Besant.

Besant.

Besant.

Yes.

Okay.

Who is?

Say that 10 times fast.

Besant, Besant, Besant, Besant, Besant.

Okay.

Who is he?

So obviously the Treasury Secretary pick, let's just put it on the table,

is going to be better than Janet Yellen.

Yes, anyway.

Anybody we could be.

I would be better.

Yes, you,

a sock puppet, a random name out of the phone book, whatever it is, is going to be better than Janet Yellen.

The Trump administration tends to go for the jockeying of the billionaires and the Wall Street type.

So that's what you're looking at.

Scott Besant is interesting because he is not necessarily famous, but he is famous for the people who he's been associated with.

This is troubling.

I'm going to set it up and everybody's going to go, ah,

and then let me walk it back a little bit.

So he was,

he started early in his career at the Soros Funds, and he ended up being the CIO of the the Soros Fund and the likely successor to George Soros, which I know right now everybody just fell over in their chairs and has a cold sweat running down.

Right.

What I need to tell you about that is that it's almost like separating the art from the artist.

You know, there are all these bad people who, you know, you enjoy their art, but you don't like the people they're associated with or, you know, that kind of a thing.

George Soros,

I would say that he is a repugnant human being, but I'm not sure that I want want to call him human.

So I'll just call him a repugnant being.

Okay.

All right.

So everybody knows that.

Okay.

But in financial circles, if you put that aside, he is an incredibly savvy, astute investor.

And the best of the best people on Wall Street have been associated with Soros at different points in time, including one of my favorite billionaires, because we all always have to have our favorite billionaires of Wall Street, a gentleman by the name of Stanley Druckenmiller, who is probably the most common sense, rational, like fantastic guy that, you know, honestly, we would all love him to be in the administration, but he's, I think, a bit older.

But he was the one, he was basically, Scott Besson was Stanley Druckenmiller's protege at Soros's quantum fund.

They did in the early 90s, you may have heard about this infamous bet against the British pound that netted them a billion dollars.

That was the team.

So he's super smart.

And from a political standpoint, he has pushed back against George Soros.

I think the most famous time was in 2014 when Soros got pressure from his allies to divest from Israel.

And Scott Besant went into his office with a team of people and said, if you do this, we are going to resign.

And so that to me says this is somebody who's willing to stand up for his principles and, you know, not let who somebody like George Soros, who, you know, again, you're his CIO, you're supposed to be his successor.

he didn't let him push him around.

And so I think that should give people, I'm not saying take it, you know,

he's, you know, that you should throw away every reservation that you have, but he's somebody who's proven that he does not approve who Soros is and is very unlikely to be, you know,

a puppet as you might think.

Is he a guy that will come in?

I mean, we've got to cut all of this DEI crap, all of this public-private partnership bull crap, all of that that has been laid deep into the Treasury Department.

Is he a guy that will recognize that and come in and just cut it all out?

We can't, we cannot have a halfway person.

They got to be deeply into the boat.

Yeah, no, he is a no-nonsense, nuts and bulls, doesn't want any of this, you know, stuff that is not financially related around it.

I think my biggest concern, and this is going to sound very funny, is that the guy's too smart.

This may be the smartest person that we have for Treasury Secretary, you know, potentially in our history.

And the issue with that is that he may be unchecked, that his ideas are so sophisticated.

This is somebody who understands currencies, who understands central banks, who's dealt with financial markets.

I mean, he has so much domain experience in all of these different areas, which is very difficult in finance.

Usually you're kind of a specialist in one area that he may have an idea and nobody else is going to be there to go, well, you know, why are you going in this direction or whatnot?

He's said a couple of kind of crazy things that I just put on your radar.

One is that my biggest red flag is that his favorite Treasury Secretary was Robert Rubin, who was the Treasury Secretary under President Clinton, who repealed the key provisions of Glass Deal that allowed commercial banks to go into investment banking, which we all know has been an epic disaster.

So he is going to be somebody who probably leans into bank deregulation.

So red flag there.

He has come up with the idea of having a shadow Fed to basically reduce Jerome Powell's power, which, you know, as you may think, well, that sounds like a great idea until you realize if you can do that under Trump, you can do that under anyone else.

And I think that's a very bad precedent and could create a lot of consternation in the market.

So we don't want that either.

And then the third one is that he has this 333 plan.

It's not the 999 plan that, you know, we used to have from Herman Cain.

It's the 333 plan that was, he said, was based on Shinzo Abe

of Japan, rest in peace, his three arrows plan.

And it sounds different, but Shinzo Abe's plan is not one we would want here because it's very much, you know, Fed intervention, fiscal stimulus from the government, as well as regulatory reforms.

Now, he's saying his 333 plan is going to be different.

He wants to reduce the deficits to GDP to less than half of what they are, 3%.

He wants to increase GDP growth 3% on an ongoing basis.

And he wants to tamp down on inflation by producing

3 million barrels of oil a day.

So as long as

it was inspired, but it's not the same.

So I think those are the kinds of things that you have to kind of get in the weeds on.

But he's certainly somebody who understands the issues we face, which by the way, are numerous.

They have left us a huge mess, the Biden-Harris administration, in terms of our fiscal foundation.

And by the way, refinancing $13 trillion of debt over the next four years, as well as any new debt that needs to be financed.

So we need somebody really savvy.

And so I would say, guys, don't focus on the Soros connection here.

Focus on the policy.

And is this person maybe a little bit too smart for the position?

Okay, hang on just a sec because I read something from Ed Dowd

today

and he said we have been handed

a book, a record book of fraudulent

records of the economy.

He says it's all a fraud and he thinks we are in real trouble.

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All righty.

Welcome to the program.

So the president right now is meeting with the House.

I don't think he's going to meet with the Senate today, but then he's going right over to the White House

and he is going to meet with President Biden.

That is going to be an interesting photo opportunity with both of them sitting by the fireplace.

But no Melania Dr.

Jill.

Yeah,

I'm glad.

Oh, totally.

I am so happy for Melania.

She has been the most maligned, mistreated

First Lady ever.

She's done nothing.

It's not like Hillary Clinton where she inserted herself into everything and made herself a polarizing figure.

She never did anything.

No, she just sat back and tried to be nice to people.

And tried to restore the White House back to Jackie O's original plan.

That garden she did, she got raked over the, that is an abomination.

She went right off of Jackie O's plan.

It's not like this case, she came up with this herself.

She restored it to the Kennedy years.

And it's an abomination.

Oh, shut up.

Anyway, they're just, they're whining about it.

And it's like it's never been, it's been, it's understandable for you to dislike a political opponent.

But like, she's not a political opponent.

No, she's not.

Okay, we have Clint Brown on.

He is a guy who was the executive director for the Senate Steering Committee for the Senate and the United States Senate.

He also has held positions at Pacific Legal Foundation as legal policy director, multiple roles with the U.S.

Senate, including policy director for the Senate Steering Committee, Assistant Counsel for the Senate Budget Committee, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

He is now the Vice President of Government Relations at the Heritage Foundation and an adjunct professor at the University of Alabama School of Law.

Clint, welcome to the program.

Can you help us break down what's going to happen today?

with the Senate.

Yes.

Thanks so much for having me on, Glenn.

You bet.

So what's going to happen today is they're voting this morning on who's going to be the next Senate leader.

They're going to vote for positions all the way down from Senate leader to conference leader.

These are several positions that a lot of people don't know about.

Everybody sees the face of the majority leader.

That's where the fight is centered.

This morning, they're giving nominating speeches.

Senators Tillis

Senator Tillis is giving the nominating speech for Senator Cornyn.

But interestingly, Senators Rubio and Haggerty are giving the speech for Rick Scott.

Now, a couple years ago when Rick Scott ran, it was Mike Lee giving that speech, Ron Johnson, conservative right-wing, you know,

troublemakers.

Now, it's our potentially next Secretary of State.

So what does that tell you?

Because he's in second place, according to the latest numbers, and we don't know if they're true or not, but

he is in second place

behind Thune.

That's right.

We don't know the numbers, but what it tells me is the conference, the Republican conference, has moved the way of conservatives.

And even the hill rags who don't really know what's going on in America like your listeners do, they're now admitting it.

This morning, Punch Ball said, regardless of who wins, the Senate could look and act differently next year, due in large part to Scott.

and Senator Mike Lee banging the drum for years about the need for an overhaul in the Senate.

So conservatives are winning this battle no matter who becomes the leader.

They're all moving our way.

So

what do you think of Thune?

Isn't he just going to be almost the same kind of guy that,

what's his name was?

You know, Turtleface.

McConnell.

McConnell.

I never remember his name.

McConnell?

Yeah, that guy, that guy who's always in our way.

Yeah.

So Thune, I would think, would be a little bit more McConnell-aligned.

That is his reputation.

But the conference has changed so much.

Republicans have started to say, hey, wait a minute.

Why didn't McConnell let me amend legislation?

Why did he put bills up, negotiated in the back room on the floor with five minutes to go before the deadline?

The conference, the Republican senators who choose the leader, they are mad about that.

So Thune is going to have to change the way business is done, even if he wins, to accommodate what they want.

Or, frankly, he may not last as long as McConnell did.

Let's put it that way.

Well, that would be great.

I mean, McConnell, I think, is an eternal figure at this point.

I don't remember a time really when McConnell wasn't in charge of things.

So what does a vote mean for

Thune?

That the majority still is kind of on the fence and they just kind of want business as usual, kind of, but not totally business as usual?

Yeah, there's so many factors that go into this.

You know, it's really a small institution.

It's 53 Republican senators.

They all know each other.

They travel together.

Their wives know each other.

It's very personal.

For a lot of them, it comes down to fundraising.

For most of them, it comes down to how the Senate is run.

What are you going to do to make my life better?

And for a select few, it comes down to certain issues.

So a vote for Thune could be about fundraising.

It could be about personal relationship, relationship, or it could be about his position on a select few issues that, you know, maybe more swampy Republicans want to get a deal on some earmark that Thune has promised them, perhaps.

I don't know.

Aaron Powell, Jr.: What do you say to the call for this should be

in open air?

This shouldn't be a secret vote.

I would like to know where senators stand on this, and I think most of your listeners would too.

I understand why they don't want it to be.

Right.

Because imagine, you know, at your workplace, you get to vote on who gets the promotion.

You have to select from three of your friends, and then you have to work with that person.

Correct.

You didn't vote for the guy that got the promotion.

Sorry, you're not getting that vacation time you wanted.

There's certainly an element of retribution, and it protects senators to actually be able to vote their conscience for someone like Rick Scott

if they don't face retribution for it.

Now, they could still because they've come out publicly for him, and that's a brave stand.

Why do you think Donald Trump hasn't weighed in on this at all?

I mean, it would be Scott if he just said, this is who I want.

It probably would be him.

Why is he not doing that?

He took a very smart approach to this.

I certainly think he could move the conference if he did, but he has the same dynamic these senators have.

He's got to work with the winner.

So what he did is he said, I want the winner.

whoever it is, to commit to moving my nominations fast and first.

And if you don't, I want you to do recess appointments.

He made it about the issues.

He made it about how the place is run and fulfilling his agenda rather than about personalities.

And I think that was very smart.

It's art of the deal, once again.

When you look at this,

if Trump, he's got to have the Senate move

and move quickly.

He's got 100 days.

He needs to move things massively fast.

If you have a thun and he begins to become an obstructionist, does the president have the ability to say, J.D.

Vance, go in there and take control of the Senate and do what John Adams did?

Absolutely.

So you've talked about this.

You've been great about it.

There is a little known procedure in the Senate that gives the majority leader the right to be recognized on the floor first.

Who decides to recognize them?

The person sitting in the chair at the front of the room.

That chair belongs to J.D.

Vance.

Anybody else sitting in that chair is borrowing his seat.

He can walk in the room, kick them out, take the seat, and recognize whoever he wants who is going to move his President Trump's nominees.

So he can actually decide, really, who's running the show.

Why haven't they done that in the past?

There was talk in the last Trump administration of doing this.

I ultimately don't know why they decided not to.

There's always a negotiation about about these kind of things.

Having the threat of doing that

is certainly powerful.

And maybe Pence just wasn't comfortable with it.

JD would probably be a lot more comfortable with that.

Oh, yeah.

He's been a senator.

Since you're an attorney, and this is unfair to spring on you here, but I don't know if you've seen

the Doge announcement that came out yesterday from Donald Trump about cutting the size of government.

And Ramaswamy said, this is not policy.

This is just a thought experiment at this point.

But if we wanted to fire half of the administration, we can do it just by holding a lottery.

And it's odd or even.

We pull one from

a bowl.

And

if it says odd, then everybody whose social security number ends in an odd number is fired.

That way we don't have any litigation or anything else.

What do you think of that idea?

Can it be done?

You know, I don't know the legal ins and outs of that idea, but certainly the federal government needs the ability to do layoffs.

And

that would probably need some funding decisions from Congress.

But at the end of the day, the president can take that money and it's assigned by Congress to certain things, but he can decide how to execute on that.

And if he doesn't have the right people in there, if government's too big, which we think it is, we know it is, then he should have the ability to do mass layoffs like any company would.

It's crazy that we can't.

Right.

And it's if the executive is not in charge of the executive branch of all of the

cabinet and all of the agencies, then

he works for the people that haven't been elected, not the other way around, correct?

That's right.

It's putting the cart before the horse.

It's putting the administrative state in charge of the government, which is the entire problem that we have right now with the executive branch.

So the president needs the ability to decide who is executing on his agenda and whether they're doing it the right way or not.

It is great to talk to you.

I think they're going in to vote right now, Clint.

Or it was it last hour.

No, I'm looking at Eastern Time now.

They're voting right now for the Senate, I believe, or at least the process begins right now.

So we will see.

Thank you so much for your insight.

I appreciate it.

Thank you, Glenn.

You got it.

Clint Brown.

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