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Glenn starts the show by playing his speech at President Trump’s rally in Prescott Valley, Arizona. Glenn issues a challenge to his voting audience and exposes the blind spots some voters have in this election. Strategic intelligence editor James Rickards joins to predict what could happen over the next three months if Trump wins the election. Will the Democrats attempt to disqualify Trump if he wins? Blaze News senior editor for politics Christopher Bedford joins to discuss how President Trump’s likeability is winning the "vibes election."
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On today's podcast, I spoke at the Trump Rally in Arizona.

You'll hear what I said, and you have to hear this crowd.

It was crazy.

It was so excited to be there and just moved as one.

Wait until you hear.

I walked in to the building and the place went nuts.

Plus, a challenge for you as we get closer to Election Day.

It's going to come down to each one of us.

Also, Jim Rickards is here.

Is it possible that we'll see a Harris Vance administration or even a JD Vance as an acting president?

And Chris Bedford joins me to talk about the vibes of this upcoming election.

Historically, they're swaying in the direction of Donald Trump.

And don't forget to check out the full show on the podcast, but this one, this podcast is the best of, and it starts in 60 seconds.

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Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage founder of Blaze Media and conservative commentator, Glenn Beck.

Well, hello, Arizona.

What an honor it is to follow the next senator from Arizona, Kerry Lake.

I am here

today

because

this is the election that will decide who we are, where our children live, the opportunities that they will have.

This is a sacred, to me, a sacred duty and honor not to just be here, but also to vote.

We need to get people out to vote for Donald Trump.

You don't need me to tell you we live in what I believe are prophesied times.

We are living in a time where evil is literally called good and good is evil.

Where men can become women and strangely, men can also become little girls if that's not creepy enough.

We know about what's happening to our girls.

This is the destruction of women.

I know there are some women that say, I don't know, I just can't vote for Donald Trump.

The policies of the left and Kamala Harris are destroying our women.

They are undermining us as parents.

Anybody who says that they should be able to counsel my child in secret is a predator.

This is what we're up against.

And for people who say, I don't know, I don't know if I can vote for Donald Trump,

the one thing that you cannot question

is his children.

His children love him.

and honor him.

His children, quite honestly, with that much wealth and that much fame, they should be crackheads.

Well,

trying to think if there's an example of that anywhere, but.

Where did I leave my Hunter Biden facts?

These are people who contribute to society, who honor their father and their mother.

I don't know how he did that.

He's a genius at business.

The man should write a parenting book.

How did he do it?

We are also.

I feel

prompted to tell you that the biggest,

the biggest, most obvious and dangerous perversion, one that should set everyone's alarm bells off, is

every Sabbath, every Sunday, if you go to church, you go to church, you break bread in remembrance of Him.

This is my body, which I have given up for you.

The left has perverted that to the point to where it is,

this is my child's body, which I will give up for me.

That is evil and must

not continue.

We are looking at a relationship with evil that cannot be tolerated.

We must.

The Constitution is hanging by a thread.

It is time for the good people that know the difference between right and wrong to stand up and save the republic.

It is time to call on God's army that is armed with our voices and our vote.

You know, Kamala Harris said just the other day in an interview that if she could do it all over again, what would she change?

Is there any policies or anything that she would change?

Immediately, the list was endless in my head, and she responded, no,

nothing.

How is this woman the agent of change?

How do people get that understanding of who she is?

Let me tell you something.

If you want change, vote Donald Trump.

Things are going to change.

Thank you.

It was an amazing,

amazing rally.

And the day before, he was at Coachella.

I don't honestly know how the guy does it.

He is on the road.

I flew back as fast as I could.

I had to leave before his speech started so I could fly back.

And I was part of a conference call

last night

that he was on.

And he was on his plane doing the conference call.

I was back at home.

I was exhausted by the end of the day.

He's in his 70s.

And the guy just does not stop.

He is very, very confident in a good way.

He is cautiously confident, I should say.

You know, his internal polling is good.

He is he, you know, he pulls

about traditionally eight points behind.

It was 10 points in 16.

It was six points the time, you know, in 2020.

Meaning the polling error moves in his favor.

Moves in his favor.

Okay.

And it's been between six and ten points.

If that stands, even if it's four points, he wins.

Oh, yeah.

He wins everywhere.

If he's on the right side of that polling error, he wins easily.

Yeah.

He'll sweep all seven of those swing states.

But he said to me, because

we sat down and we had a chat beforehand, and he is, he is not taking a single vote for granted.

He was like, Glenn,

it's this all going to be about turnout.

Are people going to turn out?

Are people going to turn out?

And I'm like, Yes, they're going to turn out.

So I made a promise to him, so let's turn out, please.

Here's what I would like to ask you to do.

This will make all of the difference, especially people of faith.

I don't know a clearer

time in my life.

I don't know of a clearer choice between good and evil.

I'm not calling Kamala Harris evil.

I am calling the policies absolutely evil.

Evil.

Everything that they have said,

they lied about.

Oh, he's stronger than he's ever been before, Joe Biden.

No, no, we find out.

No, you were lying.

How long were you lying for?

How long was he in that condition?

Who's actually running the White House?

Who's running the country?

Clearly not somebody people who voted, who we voted for.

So who's running it?

Everything that they have done, it's a conspiracy theory until it's not.

This is a long con.

Just the abortion stance.

Look, you might not be for, you might be for no exceptions on abortion.

But do you have any idea what's coming our way if she wins?

And the way for that to happen is for good men and women to do nothing

this vote counts in the eternities you know there's some people who hesitate getting into the fight

because it's controversial I can't really make a choice I'm not sure if we're gonna win

Let me talk to those people.

Let me talk to the people who have blind spots here.

First of all,

life's decision should be based on principles, not polls,

not personalities, but on principles.

You know, there were men at Valley Forge who weren't sure how the revolution was going to end, but they were in a much better place to save their own souls and their country

than those people who stood on the sidelines and like,

I don't know who's going to win.

And I don't want to get involved in any controversy.

The basic purpose of our life is to prove ourselves, not to be with the majority when it's wrong, but to prove ourselves.

This is such an honor to live at this time, to be counted.

Your vote counts.

Not just if you're in Texas and you want to vote for Trump, you might think, well, my vote, you know, my vote's not going to count anyway because Texas is going to go, A, are you sure of that?

And B,

your vote counts eternally.

At this, I've never made this case before.

This time,

liberty and freedom, not just for our children and our grandchildren, is at stake.

The whole world's liberty is at stake.

If we lose this election, I fear we will go into a massive war

and the Republic won't survive.

We can't continue to do the things we're doing and survive.

Where were you, Grandma?

Where were you, Grandpa?

What do you mean you didn't vote?

There are people all over the world who, in their own courage,

sometimes quietly, work for freedom.

In many cases, we're never going to know until maybe, you know, we die and get up to heaven.

We won't know everything that people sacrificed for liberty all over the world.

Those people are going to receive heaven's applause.

They're getting it right now for the role that they're playing.

In the long run, the applause will be louder and longer than anything they could have received in this world, but most people are just quietly toiling for freedom.

This leads to the second blind spot: those who hesitate to get into the fight.

That comes from a failure to realize that we win in the long run and for keeps.

You're passing up great blessings by not getting into the battle now when the odds are against us and the rewards are the greatest.

Prove yourself.

Prove yourself worthy.

If you truly believe these rights come from God,

then anything that are squashing those rights must be overturned.

They're God's rights, not yours.

You're not just losing your rights.

You're losing the rights for all of humanity.

You're losing it for your children.

Do you

do you feel like your children are going to have a better life, an easier life, could even compete with your life?

Most Americans don't.

I don't want to feel that way anymore.

It doesn't have to be this way.

I'm not going to condemn my children to wallow in misery,

to be strapped with

God only knows what that's coming our way.

The question that we should be asking,

what stand will each of us take in this struggle?

How much tragedy can be avoided by doing something now?

Think of that.

Think of what what would have been avoided in Afghanistan alone.

Think about what would have been, what tragedies would have been

missed just in the FEMA hurricane relief.

Imagine the tragedy that is in front of us if Kamala Harris gets in.

Time is on the side of truth, and truth is eternal, and truth is coming roaring back.

You want to be on the right side.

Those who are fighting against freedom, they might feel confident now.

I don't think they do.

They know, oh, time is not on our side.

They are short-sighted.

This is God's world, God's freedom.

And the forces of evil are working through some people.

And they've made a good mess of part of what's happening in the world.

And then we helped because we weren't paying attention.

We didn't hold up our end of the responsibility.

But it's still God's world.

In due time,

once we've had a chance to prove ourselves, including whether or not we're going to stand up, whether or not we want our name to be counted,

then God will interject Himself.

And then the final victory comes.

But

that victory is for free agency.

Then the people on the sidelines, people who took the wrong but temporarily popular course,

will lament.

You love your country.

I love my country.

Take that long, eternal look.

This...

We are living in prophesied times.

I believe that.

Stand up for freedom, no matter the cost.

It can save your soul and maybe your country.

Here's what I would like to ask you to do.

I'd like everyone in this audience to find one person

that you can get out to vote.

And not somebody who's like, yeah, Jim, I'm going to go vote for Trump.

Yeah, we'll go together.

I mean somebody, there's one person that you know that is so close,

so close.

Okay?

Help them over the hurdle.

Bring them to the polls.

That person who says, yeah, I vote for Trump, but I don't think my vote is going to count.

Get them to the polls.

This audience alone would save the republic if half of us did that.

If half of this audience did that,

he'd win in a landslide.

So that's your assignment in the next, what, 22 days.

Find somebody who's not going to probably vote.

They're very, very close.

They agree, but they just, it's not going to count.

I don't care where.

Even in Texas, first of all, I don't think the Texas thing is solid.

Second of all,

they are already talking about getting rid of the Electoral College.

They're already saying that.

They made a real move on it last time.

This time, they're not fooling around.

If they don't win, they're going to try that.

If they do win, they will do it.

They'll change the Electoral College.

They're talking about changing the Constitution in all kinds of ways.

Here's how you stop that, by winning the popular vote.

And that means everybody in Florida that thinks, ah, you know, my state's going for it, get out and vote.

It has to be overwhelming.

Take one person with you to the polls.

Fine, in the next 22 days, find that one person

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This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

Jim Rickards,

he is the Money GPT author, strategic intelligence editor.

He's a guy who historically has been calling all the big ones,

all of the big disruptions in our society and our economy.

And Jim, I don't think...

I mean, I've heard you be pessimistic.

I don't think I've heard a more stern warning than the one you're giving right now.

Well, thanks, Glenn.

It's great to be with you.

Yeah, I don't think of myself as a pessimist.

I am an analyst, and I just try to be realistic.

So if that is kind of bad news,

so be it.

But I try to

have a lot of readers and followers and so forth and listeners on our show today.

And I just try to get it right.

But I am looking at the election.

Of course, everyone is

coming up November 5th.

I remind people, the election's pretty much over already with the early voting and all that.

So we know that and the Dropboxes and the mail-ins.

So people understand that, but we'll get to November 5th.

I don't think we'll know on November 5th or even that night or early the next day.

You've got the usual trouble spots, Philadelphia, Maricopa County.

I don't know what's going on in Arizona, but they seem to ship the ballots off to a warehouse.

But beyond that,

most Americans are not familiar with the actual electoral calendar, so to speak.

And it was devised in the late 18th century.

And people say, well, why does it take from November 5th to January 6th 2025 to figure things out well you know back in the 18th century they got around by horses and carriage and all that and it just took time but anyway the when you get past that let's just say Trump wins now that's not a short thing it's going to be a close election but but my my models show Trump winning so he gets more than 270 electoral votes so we come up to

December 17th when they actually count those votes in the state capitals and they're going to be disputes and litigation but let's say we make it, I'm just kind of looking ahead as far as we can to January 6, 2025.

Now everyone's spun up about January 6, 2021.

We know what happened.

But this is January 6, 2025.

Those electoral votes go to the House and the Senate.

Now here's the key.

And this is why Trump's campaigning in places like New York and California, he's not going to win New York or California, but they're fighting over House seats.

Because if the Democrats take a majority of the House of Representatives, which is possible, they're only a four or five vote difference right now, Led by Jamie Raskin, they're going to pass a resolution saying that Trump is an insurrectionist under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

Now, a lot of people say, wait a second, didn't the Supreme Court throw that out?

Not exactly.

Colorado and Maine tried to kick Trump off the ballot on that ground.

It went to the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court said states cannot do it.

So Colorado and Maine couldn't do it, nor could any other state.

But they explicitly said the Congress could.

And it was a federal issue, exactly.

So now you pass this resolution, what happens?

Trump's votes would be disqualified.

Let's say he has 300 electoral votes and pick a number over 270.

Those are disqualified on the grounds that he's an insurrectionist.

So then what happens next?

Well, now

nobody has 270, because in this scenario, Camille Harris doesn't get 270.

Trump does, but he's disqualified.

So now the election goes to the House of Representatives.

This, by the way, has happened before, 1800, 1824, and then 1876.

They still can't figure out what happened, but it has happened before.

But now you flip over from the 14th Amendment to the 12th Amendment.

I should have let the listeners know, I happen to be a lawyer, so I'm enough of a geek to read all this stuff.

Now you're in the 12th Amendment, 1804, and what does that say?

Well, the House votes to choose the president, but there are a couple of caveats.

One is they can only vote for

someone who got in the top three electoral votes.

And this is, you know, back in the days, maybe three or four people would get electoral votes.

George Wallace got electoral votes in 1968.

Top three.

But there's only going to be one.

If you disqualify Trump, no one else is going to win a state.

And Kamala Harris is the only one you could vote for because top three, but she would be the top one because that's it.

Why wouldn't it go to J.D.

Vance?

Why doesn't he take those?

Well,

I think that's what's going to happen, but you have to sort of follow.

The 12th Amendment is a playbook.

I think that's where it will end up.

I agree with that.

But you have to kind of look at the sequence.

Now, in the House, here's the interesting part.

There are 435 members, but you don't vote by member.

You vote by state delegation.

So Texas would get one vote.

I live in New Hampshire.

We'd get one vote, the same as Texas.

The Republicans control a majority of the state delegations by a bigger margin.

They barely control a majority of the House.

But when you go by state delegations, it's more like 28, 22.

The Republicans have a substantial majority.

But the problem is you can only vote for Campbell Harris no matter what, because nobody else has any electoral votes.

The answer then, and the 12th Amendment says this, is for the Republicans, if they have ecojonus, to go out and stand on the mall in the snow and then the House lacks a quorum.

And the 12th Amendment says you can't do anything what we're talking about if you don't have a quorum.

So if you lack a quorum, then what happens?

The 12th Amendment says the vice president becomes the acting president.

Now, J.D.

Vance would not suffer this disqualification, going back to the insurrection.

insurrection.

So J.D.

Vance would become the acting president of the United States if the House lacks a quorum.

And, you know, I described this, Glenn.

It's all in the 12th Amendment.

It's in the 14th Amendment.

Some of this has been litigated in years past.

It sounds crazy, but just think about what we've been through the last three months.

Two, maybe three assassination attempts, a coup d'état on Joe Biden, a nominee who didn't get one vote in two tries, not one vote in a primary.

And so there's enough craziness to go around.

So again, I'm just kind of reading the Constitution and applying it.

And it has happened before.

In SA 1800, we ended up with

Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr, who were bitter enemies and opposing parties.

But that's what happened.

And here you could have Kamala J.D.

Vance's worst case or J.D.

Vance's acting president if the Republicans walk off the floor and they lack a quorum.

Oh, geez, this is craziness.

So,

you know, one of the reasons we are successful, we had had cheap energy, don't have that anymore.

A well-educated populace, we don't really have that anymore.

Cheap labor, we don't have that anymore.

And

a stable country.

If this happens,

what happens to the economy?

Well, the stock market, you know, it can, there are, you know, bull markets and bear markets.

It goes up and down.

But the one thing the stock market hates is uncertainty.

Right.

What we just described is maximum uncertainty.

Because I just gave you a scenario.

It is laid out in the 12th Amendment, 1804.

But you can bet that every step that I described will be litigated in some manner.

And the courts want nothing to do with this.

I mean, you go back to 2020, the New York Times and all these people say, well, there were 15 cases, and

all of them were decided that there was no voter interference and no election prior.

That's not what the courts said.

The courts dismissed all those cases, either on standing,

jurisdiction, timeliness.

They went to all these procedural things to get rid of the cases.

But the actual fraud was never litigated.

There's been a lot of forensic examinations since then.

And that's just the courts saying, hey, you, Congress, states, state legislature, you guys figured it out.

We don't want to be involved in this.

They still feel burned by Bush versus Gore in 2000.

Having said that, they have a job to do, and I think these things are going to end up in their lap.

But

if you put the course course to one side and just go by the playbook and the 12th Amendment, and that was based on what happened in 1800, you would end up with J.D.

Vance as acting president.

And

because the Congress can say that he's an insurrectionist, you don't need a trial?

I mean, he's never even been charged with insurrection.

Of course, you're right, and I agree completely.

But that 13th Amendment hasn't been ⁇ sorry, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, sorry, hasn't been litigated since the well, we had the case last summer with Colorado, Maine.

But before that, you have to go back to the 1930s.

And

even, of course, that was designed, that came after the Civil War.

It was 1868.

It was designed to disqualify Confederates from federal office, et cetera.

Over the years, but Section 5, Section 3 is the Insurrections Clause.

But Section 5 empowers the Congress to make laws to interpret Section 3.

They, sometime, I don't know the exact date, sometime in the 1920s, the Congress granted full amnesty to Robert E.

Lee and Jefferson Davis.

They said they were not insurrectionists.

And so

there has been legislation and it has been litigated, not in recent decades.

But if you were willing to cut Robert E.

Lee a break, I don't know why they wouldn't do it for Trump.

Well, they did that.

They did that to heal.

I mean, that's why we have these statues of Robert E.

Lee.

The North said, build a statue.

These are heroes for you you as well.

You know,

they didn't prosecute these guys because they said, we've got to come back together as a nation.

Nobody's going to do that this time.

That's exactly right.

The bitterness is we're sorry to say that, but it's there.

And by the way, the leader of this, and he's open about it.

I mean, I read the Constitution, did the legal homework, but the guy who says this is what we're going to do is Jamie Raskin and the member of Congress from Maryland.

But most people are, you know, they're worried about election fraud on November 5th.

They should be.

I think Larry Trump has done a good job of, I think they've mobilized 500 lawyers and they're on that.

Republicans are finally waking up to the fact that you may not like Mailons, but you got to do it.

But this is way much further down the road.

This is the end game.

This is the final lawfare attack.

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There's a great article at Blaze.com, How Donald Trump Won the Vibes election.

And I wanted to get Christopher Bedford.

He is our Washington, D.C.

chief.

And

he wrote this great kind of historical look at vibes, man.

And I wanted to get him on to explain it.

Hi, Chris.

How are you?

I'm great.

Happy Columbus Day, Glenn.

Oh, yeah, it is Columbus Day.

You bastard for knowing that.

How much hate do you have in your soul?

You know, I'm in Baltimore Harbor right now, which is where Nancy Pelosi's father erected a statue of Christopher Columbus, and she applauded as that statue was taken down.

Unbelievable.

Okay,

happy Columbus Day.

So, Chris, tell me about the Vibes election and the winning the Vibes war.

So I was looking at kind of the historic precedent because we sit there in D.C.

poring over numbers, poring over polls.

trying to divine

the public sentiment from these people who just call folks at their home phone numbers and their cell phones and try to gauge where the public's at.

And I was talking to some longtime political consultants, and they pointed out, and we were chatting about this,

how often politics is actually kind of a game of the obvious.

We make it very complicated.

We pour through this really imperfect science.

But it's not like the economy.

It's not like a lot of other things that are difficult to predict.

If you look back for the last 50 years of elections, whether it's Gerald Ford, who no one ever elected anything other than congressman, versus Jimmy Carter, whether it's Ronald Reagan, just an incredible movie star actor with a pitch-perfect radio voice versus Jimmy Carter, or whether you move up to Mitt Romney versus Barack Obama, you start to notice that these things are kind of obvious.

The people who are likable, Bob Dole, no matter what the scandals and no matter his heroism and no matter his sense of humor, was not going to beat Bill Clinton, who was young and energetic and charismatic.

And the Democrats really played a strong and bold hand here.

Not maybe strong, but extremely bold bluff when they put Kamala Harris, who was literally no one's first choice, to be in charge, someone the Obamas can't personally stand, someone who Joe Biden doesn't really even personally like.

They put her on the ticket and they tried to make her into a rock star, into a transformative figure.

They tried to run simply off of vibes, how she makes you feel.

But in the last six weeks or so of the election, or the last two weeks, and then we got four weeks ahead of us, people have really started to notice and tune in, and they don't like what they see.

And the Democrats who based everything on vibes are actually turning away from Kamala Harris.

And at the same time, Donald Trump, who in 2016 was a maverick, In 2020, kind of ran an angry campaign, one that was a lot about how he'd been wronged, and he had.

But now in 2024, he's at at the top of his game.

He's hysterical.

He's light-hearted.

You were with him over the weekend.

You saw he's a changed man.

Yeah, he is.

And every single poll is showing that the American people are noticing this.

He has really changed to

a

much more light-hearted guy.

You know,

after he lost in 2020, he was angry about it.

I don't see the anger in him anymore.

He's, he's, um,

he's really a positive guy.

Don't worry.

I can't tell you how many times I heard him say to people, this is backstage.

They said, well, you know, we're worried about this.

Don't worry about it.

Let's just, let's win this election and that's all going to solve itself.

We're going to take care of that.

Don't worry.

Let's just win the election.

You know, you know this, Glenn, from your life.

And I think we all know this, that.

There's sometimes there seems like something's happening that you can't understand why.

And it's bad and it hurts you.

And later on, when you step back, sometimes years later, you realize it was all part of God's plan.

Yes.

And it suddenly starts to make sense, even those difficult trials.

And that may be where we are right now.

So you believe that he's surging in the polls?

Because that's what he said to me yesterday, Glenn.

And I'm seeing it in some, that he is starting to surge and it comes at exactly the right time.

And Kamala is starting to fall in the polls.

You believe those numbers are real?

Yes, and

I've really not seen a good poll for Kamala Harris in a few weeks.

Every one that is coming out has been bad.

Donald Trump is literally starting to pull ahead in the popular vote.

The Barack Obama speech trying to shame black men doesn't seem to have worked.

Oh, boy, was that bad?

Kamala Harris media blitz didn't work.

The only polls that we have since she did a week of these strange shows have shown her consistently further and further down.

And I don't actually think that pollsters are undercounting Trump voters as often as they have previously, because for eight years, it was a shameful thing to be a Trump voter.

It was where I used to, I used to be a punk rocker.

I'd walk around with a mohawk and a t-shirt with a curse on it, and people will look at you way meaner if you have a MAGA hat on than that.

They just, they cause this to stain in so much of the country, but it's no longer uncool.

Well, wait a minute, wait a minute.

I have a theory on this.

I think they undercounted the MAGA people in the past,

and they did it by, I think, eight or 10 points in 2016 and then six points in 2020.

I think the hidden MAGA voter

are the people that do not want to tell their Democratic friends, I can't take any more of this.

And they will go in, either not vote.

or they will go in and vote for Trump and they're not going to tell anybody.

Do you think there's a chance of that?

You know, this is just a story, but my mother's got a book group up in Cape Cod, and the whole book group for years is dominated by anti-Trump sentiment until one day she had enough and said, you know, I actually voted for him, and I'm not a racist.

And it turned out that the majority of her book group felt the exact same way, but they had been overpowered by a few loud voices who shamed them and tried to put them down for it.

I think those people are everywhere.

For every Trump sign you see, you see there's a lot more people who don't have one in the yard who are feeling that same way.

And they're looking at the prices and the groceries, they're looking at the crime, they're looking at the foreign policy, and they're saying, this isn't what I wanted.

Yeah, this is the only time, I mean, you looked into the presidential history.

This is the only time that I'm aware of where if Kamala wins, they will be voting against their own interests.

For instance, Every time an administration has an economy this bad, things starting to look really bad in foreign foreign policy, all of these things, gas prices going up, they don't usually do well.

If she beats Donald Trump's just even just the popular vote numbers, I just don't believe it.

I just won't believe it.

How are these people voting against what they know to be true?

It's so difficult to talk to a lot of these folks.

They're so insulated, it seems.

And what's sad is a lot of things that are very much true are called lies.

Oh, I know.

If you say there's a crisis at the border, even though now Democrats are finally admitting that, folks will tell you straight to your face, college professors will tell you, that's a conservative lie.

No, it's not.

So there's a willful disconnect, and we are more tribal than we've ever been in a long time, at least, not ever.

But do you think we're more partisan?

Do you think, though, the economy is different?

I mean, there was a story out today that said that, you know,

the prices for everything is actually lower

today than it was when Donald Trump was in office.

And I'm like, are you, I mean,

that is, I mean,

everybody knows that.

They remember going to the grocery store then.

They remember going to the grocery store now.

I think they've become so blatant in their lies.

that you have to choose.

I'm believing that.

I'm no longer going to believe my own eyes, my own ears, my memory.

I'm going to, I choose to believe that.

Trust in us reporters has never been lower and it's completely deserved.

For everything, every amount of distrust you have for people in my profession, you should increase it because so many of them are liars.

There's propagandists for the court.

I think there was CNBC who tried to claim that increases in wages are what's covered for us.

Or actually, everything is beefer.

But if you're a native-born American citizen, your wages have not increased nope if you're an illegal immigrant you're doing better than maybe you were three years ago four years ago but that's not at least that's not who's supposed to be voting democrats have tried to block that every chance they get but one thing that's interesting in the polls that i still can't figure out you're this in arizona why the difference between kerry lake and donald trump the difference between trump and a couple other republican candidates in the polling is sometimes 10 points And in this partisan age, I would be surprised if we actually see that kind of vote splitting, that kind of ticket splitting, really reflect when the numbers come in.

And I'm wondering if it's going to, those Senate candidates are going to come up and close with Trump or if Trump's maybe a little closer to where they are.

I would tend to agree with that.

It doesn't make sense.

I talked to Mike Lee yesterday, and he said, oh, Kerry Lake, I want Kerry Lake to win so badly.

He's like, she's a fighter.

I need a fighter that is in the Senate because we've got a battle to wage.

And I said, do you think she's going to win?

He said, Trump, I believe, is going to win Arizona handily.

And he said, I think that's just

going to track with her.

I think she's going to be pulled up past the finish line with him.

That would make sense to me.

Right.

I think Mike Lee is right on that.

Absolutely.

I think he's got a good point.

He's got a good eye on it.

And just like you said, he's one of those senators who's not just going on TV and saying conservative things, but he's fighting hard in the Senate right now on the procedure, on the policy, working to make a difference.

Chris Bredford, thank you so much.

Chris is the Blaze News Senior Editor for Politics.

He's also our Blaze Media Washington correspondent.

And it'll be, are you going to be in Washington

the weeks after the election?

I sure am.

We'll see what happens.

Yes, we will.

Chris, thank you so much.

God bless.

Thank you, Gwen.

Stay safe.

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