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Let me give you a couple of things that are going on.

It happened in the last 24 hours.

And we're going to get to Alibstucke in just a second.

First, Israel.

Israel was hit yesterday

by ballistic missiles.

Miraculously, I don't think anybody was killed.

That is a miracle.

They wiped out a lot of F-35s.

Israel is going to respond.

The question is, and the thing to look for, is if Iran responds and shuts down the two straits where we get our oil from.

If they disrupt the flow of oil, we will get deeply involved in that.

Other than that, I hope we stay on the sidelines and we just support Israel and give them what they need, but let them take care of business.

We don't need another war.

The labor strike we talked about yesterday at the ports, it's day number two and they have doubled down.

And the president gave it his reason for not getting involved.

He doesn't think the president should get involved in union disputes right now, and he doesn't want to tell them to go back to work either.

Translation, he doesn't want to lose the union vote, but he could lose a lot of other votes.

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So the debate last night, the debate.

My view on this, the best vice presidential candidate I have ever seen in my lifetime.

I don't think there's been a better vice presidential candidate.

Trump is not going to thwart the Constitution and just say, I'm going to be a king and a dictator forever.

How do I know that?

Did you see that vice presidential candidate?

He picked a successor.

He picked someone who can carry on after him.

Second thing I learned, Tim Walls apparently wasn't at Tiananmen Square

and didn't happen.

Didn't happen.

But he's a knucklehead and everybody knows him.

You know, he's fine.

Now,

the final point on the debate last night, I don't think it changes any minds.

But if you did watch the debate and you were hesitant on Donald Trump,

you don't like the Democrats.

You're an Independent.

And you just, I think

personally, I think

J.D.

Vance made people comfortable that there's an adult in the room and

you can vote for Donald Trump.

That's what I think, if it changed any minds at all.

But

I want to talk to Ali Bastucci because Allie was watching it last night and I didn't get a chance to hear your comments last night after the debate, Ali.

And if, I mean, you're a woman, if you're a woman and you hadn't decided, how were you watching that and how did that play to women, do you think?

If I were a woman who hadn't decided, I probably would be

seeing

how much J.D.

Vance turned me off and made me mad.

I think they already are probably leaning towards Harris, and they probably already have a critical eye towards J.D.

Vance just because of the...

childless cat lady stuff and some of the misinformation they've heard from the media.

And I think he, at the very least, did not turn that suburban woman mom off of voting Donald Trump.

He had a really good mixture of aggression when he needed to, but also softness and compassion.

I think the way that he

effortlessly weaved his personal story, his background with his policy prescriptions was really good.

I wasn't sure if anyone could pull that off.

That's really hard to do.

And he did it really well.

So this morning, I got up early and I was watching a focus group.

And

this focus group, the women were saying that they didn't like that he was demonizing illegal immigrants.

My gosh.

I know.

I know.

Yeah, that is, I mean, that's that toxic empathy that I talk about, that tool of manipulation that progressives use to convince women, even Christian women, that the more compassionate and righteous side of an issue is the progressive one.

They hoist up the victim.

They blind you to everyone else involved in the immigration debate, the people actually being negatively impacted by illegal immigration.

And they make you feel that you are standing up for the most vulnerable, for the marginalized, if you vote for Democrats.

They don't have to think about how.

It just feels good.

It is toxic empathy.

It's misplaced mothering.

I understand.

I understand where that's coming from.

But unfortunately, that leads us to a very dangerous place.

So, Allie,

I have not read your book, and I am going to get a copy of your book and read it.

Of course.

We were talking last night about it.

For anybody who doesn't know about this, can you just explain what your book is about, toxic empathy?

Yeah, it's out October 15th.

It's called Toxic Empathy, How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion.

We go through in five chapters the five subjects that I see them doing the most, this the most on.

It's abortion, it's gender, it's it's sexuality slash the definition of marriage, it's immigration and social justice.

And so what they'll do is hoist up a particular victim.

For example, the woman who fled Colombian gang violence is here illegally, but she's raised her family here.

She is terrified of the specter of the Donald Trump presidency because she fears that she's going to be deported and leave her small children here.

That's the only story that these women many times are hearing about immigration.

And if that's the only story that you are hearing, you believe that it is your obligation via the empathy that you have for this woman that, say, NPR just told you about to vote against the president that this woman is scared of.

But what we do in the book is that we zoom out and we say, okay, but who is affected on the other side of this issue?

And we look at the competing anecdotes.

We look at Wake and Riley.

We look at Molly Tibbett.

We look at Kate Steinley.

And we say, at the end of the day, there are victims on both sides of this.

You could say there are people that you can feel for on both sides of this, but Christians are not to be primarily led by our feelings.

We can compete with anecdotes all day.

We're to be led by the truth.

The truth in love approach is the wiser approach.

It is the more beneficial approach to people on both sides of the issue, but it takes a little more effort, a little more thought to see what is factually and biblically true.

So we do that on all of these controversial subjects.

People are going to feel so equipped to have these tough conversations after they read it.

How do you address abortion?

And how do you think

J.D.

Vance did on abortion?

It drove me out of my mind that Waltz was saying, no, we're not for nine-month abortion.

Yes, you are.

Yes, you are.

I mean, babies have died in Minnesota because they let them die if they weren't killed in the abortion.

It is horrific.

How do you think that was dealt with last night?

You know, I think he could have pushed, I think he could have pushed harder on that.

I think J.D.

Vance overall did a good job.

I thought his weakest moment was on abortion.

And I understand it's a for Republicans, they feel like it's scary, it's a sticky subject, and they don't want to be really strong on it.

I didn't really understand what J.D.

Vance was even saying about Republicans winning back trust, yada, yada.

I don't know.

I would have pivoted harder.

If you don't want to answer the question, pivot harder to abortion extremism.

He is the first one that

that I've heard bring up the fact that Kamala Harris, a senator, voted against the Born Alive Infant Survivors Protection Act in 2019, written by Ben Saff, that just said, you've got to provide these babies who survive abortions health care.

She voted no on that.

So she and Tim Waltz are right in line with believing that babies who are born alive deserve to die.

That's infanticide.

That's like Roman Empire exposure,

leaving your babies to die in the wilderness kind of pagan stuff right there.

So I think he could have pivoted a little bit harder to that.

Allie, thank you so much.

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Yeah, we have binders of women here at the moment.

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Women, yeah, yeah.

And a stable, I meant we keep them in a stable.

Yeah.

But anyway, I think we have the best women on the air.

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I only have time to talk to three of them today.

But anyway, we're going to get to Liz Wheeler here in just a second.

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Let me go to Liz Wheeler.

Hello, Liz.

How are you?

Hi, Glenn.

Hi, Stu.

Hey, Liz.

You know, I am so grateful.

Last night it became very, very clear.

The very smart, strong, conservative women are outnumbering the men here.

And it is so great to watch.

It is so great to watch.

I'm so glad that you're part of Blaze TV.

So what did you think?

Thank you, me too.

What did you think last night?

Oh, that's the kind of debate I like to watch.

That was thoroughly enjoyable from start to finish.

That caused me a lot less stress than the last one.

Let's just say that.

Jamie Vance performed masterfully.

He started off stronger than he ended, I thought.

But overall,

no question that he won the debate.

He did something during the debate that I'd advised him to do, and I thought he did it very well.

And that is he treated Tim Wallace like no one's going to remember Tim Wallace in four years, which hopefully will be true.

And what I mean by this is if you think about Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump, we are all for the rest of our lives going to remember that campaign.

It was a campaign of epic proportions.

Yet, how many of us can actually picture the face of Hillary Clinton's running mate, Tim Kaine?

Not very many of us.

No one knows him.

No one cares about him.

I heard you say this last year.

I remember his name, but I can't remember his face.

He's just this generic blob.

I couldn't even remember his name.

I didn't even remember his name when you were saying that.

I'm like, God, who was that?

It's crazy.

Well, that was my advice to J.D.

Vance is treat Tim Walz like no one's going to remember him.

Don't make it a J.D.

Vance versus Tim Walls debate.

Make it a Trump campaign versus Kamala Harris campaign event and do that by just using Tim Walls as a punching bag in a sense.

Just punch him and pivot right to Kamala Harris's policies.

Just use him as your stepping stone.

Use him as a tool and highlight those policies.

This is what J.D.

Vance is best at.

This is one of the reasons why the Trump campaign picked him to do opposition interviews because he does them brilliantly well.

And he highlighted the three things that I thought independent voters, anybody who's still undecided about who they're going to cast their ballot for, wanted to hear about.

The economy, he highlighted that.

Inflation, he highlighted that.

Immigration, he highlighted that.

These are really important topics that

people care the most about.

And he really very well made the case against Kamala Harris using Tim Walls that Donald Trump is the better choice on those on those topics.

So I was very happy with how he did.

I did think he faltered a little bit on the abortion question.

I personally am more pro-life than Donald Trump.

So that wasn't a misstep in the campaign or a misstep in J.D.

Dance's performance so much as I think a miscalculation of their campaign strategy.

But Tim Walz was a blustering idiot.

I mean, he was embarrassing.

I don't know that anybody could watch that and think, well, there's someone I want to lead the country.

So help me out on this.

You know, there's like 3% evangelicals that are sitting out because they're saying, you know,

I want somebody who's absolutely pro-life.

And we talked about this a little bit during the debate or right after the debate that, you know, we are dealing with somebody who is so pro-abortion, so pro-death, that it's almost bloodthirsty, where you will, where you will vote against the born alive act i mean that that's craziness um

how

how do you convince people who are saying that's my one issue that they need to vote for somebody who might be not as pro-life as they are

well it's my one issue too so i'm very empathetic to how they're feeling i'm not going to dismiss that as being ridiculous no but i also think it's our moral imperative as pro-lifers and as christians to vote for Donald Trump.

And I know that that's a very strong statement to make, to tell someone it's their moral imperative to vote for a certain political candidate.

And I will tell you why.

I am more pro-life than Donald Trump.

I am.

But we also know exactly how Donald Trump will govern when he is in the Oval Office when it comes to issues of life.

He has a proven record of appointing pro-life justices to the point that they overturned Roe v.

Wade, something that no president had been able to do since the Supreme Court handed down that terrible, grisly ruling.

He also took taxpayer-funded money away from abortions, whether that was taking it away from Medicaid money or taking our taxpayer money away from funding abortions overseas through the Mexico City policy.

This is a guy who actually admirably wasn't pro-life and has had a conversion to a certain extent.

And that's a good thing.

Like what we want people who are pro-abortion to do, we want them to convert into pro-life people.

When it comes to casting your vote, I think If you have voted for any Republican candidate ever in your life, then you have voted for someone who is not absolutist on pro-life issues.

I mean, Mitt Romney wasn't absolutist.

John McCain wasn't absolutist.

George Bush wasn't absolutist.

Even Ronald Reagan wasn't absolutist.

So if for some reason you're applying a different standard to Donald Trump and J.D.

Vance, you should consider why you're applying a different standard.

As a Christian myself, not just a conservative, I look at every vote I cast as a lesser of two evils.

It is my responsibility to protect the value and the dignity of every human life to the best of my ability.

And if there's a candidate who is going to desecrate human life at 10 out of 10, and that candidate is running against

another candidate who is going to desecrate life only at a 4 out of 10, meaning he's going to protect life a 6 out of 10, that to me is a very obvious choice.

I will always use my voice to push Donald Trump to be more pro-life than he is.

And it's effective to use your voice to do that.

But at the same time, if we can save millions of lives by voting for Donald Trump just because he's not as pro-life as we are,

that is no reason not to vote for him and every every reason to vote for him.

And that's the case that I would make to Christians and conservatives who are disappointed or even disgusted by the Trump campaign not being as pro-life as we are.

I only have two minutes.

I want to go the opposite direction.

You're talking or you have somebody in your family,

a woman who is

against Donald Trump, but you know if they actually knew the facts, they would not.

If you had to send one clip of the debate last night, what would it be?

It would be the clip about immigration.

I think that that's an issue that women care about a lot, that they don't always vocalize that they care about a lot, because it's a physical threat to women and to children, and to our communities, to our schools, to our health care.

I mean, hospitals are being overrun right now by illegal aliens.

There are illegal aliens that are raping and murdering children and teenage girls.

This is our schools that are full of non-English speaking students, which causes English-speaking students, our children, to be less well-served by these schools.

This is something that's a serious threat.

And I thought JD Vance handled that very, very well, highlighting exactly what Kamala Harris has done to not only encourage and allow, but invite the border crisis.

And I think that that's a clip that a Trump campaign would do well to highlight because I think that that is

a mind-changing issue for people who are not sure how they're going to cast their ballot.

Thank you very much.

I appreciate it, Liz.

Great to talk to you.

Liz Wheeler.

Thanks, Glenn.

Another host from Blaze TV, the Liz Wheeler Wheeler show, and also the author of a book, Hide Your Children.

All right.

When we come back, we're going to continue the conversation.

The reason why I asked Liz that last question was, it's not up to the Trump campaign.

It is up to us.

And I want to try to equip you with some things that you can send out to those loved ones, those family members, that think differently, but are not hardcore.

They are open to some reason, and they just need a little push.

We'll continue that over the next few weeks.

Glenn back.

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And welcome to the program.

How are you?

I am doing great.

I'm doing great because we don't have to go through and say, oh, how did it go last night?

Was it good?

Was it bad?

No.

Everybody on the right that watched that, everybody that is a normie Glenn that watched that is like, wait, this J.D.

Vance guy, they're trying to tell me he's weird.

They're trying to tell me he's out there and crazy.

This guy looks pretty normal.

And you know what we get from that?

The media, of course, anytime he's going to have a sit-down interview, of course they're going to try and frame it as whatever they can to make the right not in a good glowing image.

Boy, they worked hard at that last night.

But with live debates, with live television, you can cut right through and speak directly to the American people without anyone interfering.

And he shined so bright on that stage last night.

Yes, he did.

The moment for you.

The moment for me was when J.D.

Vance came out, his opening remarks, and he hit it later with the economy stuff, but he brought back the American dream.

Glenn, on this show, on any show that we're looking at over the last weekend, there's so much doom and gloom out there in the world.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Right?

We could have potential World War III, inflation, the port strikes.

What's going on?

People don't need to be reminded about how bad it is.

You can tell you've been listening to the show for a long time.

I love this show.

I am one who wants the doom and gloom tell me.

She actually started watching when we were doing headline news at CNN.

She was the one.

She was the one who watched that.

But I look at it and say, okay,

people are living their lives.

It's hard enough as it is.

And J.D.

Vance went out on that stage multiple times last night and said, it's okay to still have the American dream.

That to me is so important because we see poll after poll with millennials, with Gen Zers, and they say, you know what?

I don't think that my life, my quality of life is going to surpass that that my parents had.

Whether it's true or not, that's what they believe right now.

And you need somebody to come back and say, no, it is still possible to live the American dream.

So I want to play that clip here in a second, but,

you know, J.D.

Vance, if I hear one more person say, you know, I grew up in a middle class, first of all, that's great.

If you grew up in a middle class and you're now in upper class, fantastic.

That's the story of America.

But J.D.

Vance came out and said, you know, I grew up in a middle class.

I don't think he he did.

He did not.

He grew up in the lowest of lower classes.

I mean, his mom was addicted to heroin.

I mean,

he had a horrid, horrid upbringing.

He's underselling his story, which is hard to do.

And they made the movie about it.

Again, go watch it this weekend on Netflix, Hillbilly Elegy.

But when you look at what he was able to overcome from that childhood, and then Tim Walls is out there making fun of J.D.

Vance for, oh, he went to Yale.

Okay.

At what point are the leftists the one that are making fun of the Ivy League colleges?

That's that's weird in and of itself.

But the fact that J.D.

Vance could stand there on stage at the RNC and say, my mom had struggled with addiction.

And you know what?

If I get into the White House along with Donald Trump, she will have her 10-year sober chip and we'll have that party in the White House.

That story is incredible.

And that's why the media will hate him even more.

So listen to his opening statement.

This is what Jill was talking about of hope.

Listen to this.

I want to answer the question, but I want to actually give an introduction to myself a little bit because I recognize a lot of Americans don't know who either one of us are.

I was raised in a working-class family.

My mother required food assistance for periods of her life.

My grandmother required social security help to raise me.

And she raised me in part because my own mother struggled with addiction for a big chunk of my early life.

I went to college on the GI Bill after I enlisted in the Marine Corps and served in Iraq.

And so I stand here asking to be your vice president with extraordinary gratitude for this country, for the American dream that made it possible for me to live my dreams.

And most importantly, I know that a lot of you are worried about the chaos in the world and the feeling that the American dream is unattainable.

I want to try to convince you tonight over the next 90 minutes that if we get better leadership in the White House, if we get Donald Trump back in the White House, the American dream is going to be attainable once again.

This is one of the reasons why I said

he is the best vice president candidate of my lifetime.

I can't think of anybody who's even in the category of this guy.

He walks on stage.

This is the first time Americans have seen him.

Many Americans have seen him and seen him in a presidential debate.

He could be president tomorrow.

You know,

after

in 2028, assuming we still have elections,

in 2028,

Ron DeSantis will have a run for his money because this guy is really solid.

Absolutely.

And he came out like a professor, right?

What did he do last night in his opening statement?

Here's what I'm going to tell you.

Yes.

We're going to learn.

Here's what we're learning in the middle.

And then at the end, wrapping it back up.

Here's what we can do as a country.

He knows how to frame a message.

And oh my gosh, you guys on the right, please, can we have more of that?

Ron DeSantis is very good at it.

J.D.

Vance is very good at it.

It feels like the politicians, though, they forget that when they get on stage.

All the messaging goes out the window and they're in front of the media.

We need to clearly articulate our values, our principles, because we have the winning message.

The masks are off.

They are telling you on the left that they are flat out demonic.

It's not a hard game to play right now.

This should be the easiest one to go through and message.

It is a battle of good versus evil.

And we're on the winning side.

So,

you know,

I agree with you that this is a battle of good versus evil,

but I don't think we get anywhere by calling, and I'm not saying you did this, by calling Kamala evil or whatever.

I think it is a bloodlust that comes from evil.

But I actually think these people really think they're right.

It's a funny line you just drew there.

Like, don't call them evil, but it is from a bloodlust that it results in evil.

No, but

you're saying it's.

I'm not saying that it is a...

I'm not saying that they are knowingly doing this.

They have built this bloodlust up

thinking they're doing the right thing and not recognizing you might be in the service of the wrong guy.

It's that Nazi and that famous skate where he's like, are we the baddies?

Yeah.

Like, it's that, yeah, yeah, yeah, that type of thing at this point.

I mean, when you're sitting on stage arguing about the benefits of ending the lives of 63 million children,

we should all note, that's their good polling argument.

Yeah, it's not just their fault.

The fact that that is the argument that works in the polls to the point that our party is seemingly halfway running away from it is despicable in every way.

I think the reason why so many conservatives have changed is because they demonized us.

They called us Nazis.

And so when somebody calls you a Nazi and a racist, if you're a thinking human being,

you do a little inventory on yourself.

Am I, what am I saying that is like that?

And then you understand,

well, no, I'm not.

And here's why, yada, yada, yada.

They haven't done that.

They have not been pushed in any of their positions.

So they just keep sliding lower and lower and lower, and you can't defend it.

That's why she's not doing any interviews.

That's why Walls, this is the last you'll see of him doing any interviews or anything else, because they've never been pushed.

So they can't, they don't know how to defend it.

Absolutely.

And it showed on stage last night that Tim Walls has done one interview with Kamala Harris, and it was a very powder puff CNN sit-down interview.

And J.D.

Vance has been thrown out there.

And you take all the press that you can, if it's on a tarmac, if it's a sit-down interview, we don't care.

We're going to push him out in front of the American people and you are going to clearly articulate our vision.

But the leftists, they have, they've gone so far down the wrap.

You just look at it and you say,

where do they even start to come back from this and get them back in the center?

I think that it's too far gone for the leftists

that are truly believing that the abortion is

the the number one issue and they will not budge from that.

So what do you do with the rest of America, the normies that are still out there that still say, you know what, I don't think that that's exactly the way that I want to go.

Well, I think J.D.

Vance articulated that in a very clear, decise manner last night.

You're sending a

text to a friend and you have one clip to pick.

You would pick the opening statement.

The opening statement, yeah, and just the fact that he would come back and talk about the American dream a couple different times in that debate, because

people need to feel that there is still some hope out there.

They can't go about living their days with the doom and gloom that is hanging over their head.

That's going to be there anyway.

We need somebody that is inspirational that can say we can get through this and get out of this and end up better on the other side.

Let me just end this.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, Jill.

Let me just end this segment with his closing statement, which has bookend the entire debate.

Senator Vance, your closing statement.

Well, I want to thank Governor Waltz,

you folks at CBS, and of course the American people for tuning in this evening.

And one of the issues we didn't talk about was energy.

And I remember when I was being raised by my grandmother, when she didn't have enough money to turn on the heat some nights because Ohio gets pretty cold at night and because money was often very tight.

And I believe, as a person who wants to be your next vice president, that we are a rich and prosperous enough country where every American, whether they're rich or poor, ought to be able to turn on their heat in the middle of a cold winter night.

That's gotten more difficult thanks to Kamala Harris's energy policies.

I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford a nice meal for your family.

That's gotten harder because of Kamala Harris's policies.

I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford to buy a house.

You ought to be able to live in safe neighborhoods.

You ought to not have your communities flooded with fentanyl.

And that too has gotten harder

because of Kamala Harris's policies.

Now I've been in politics long enough to do what Kamala Harris does when she stands before the American people and says that on day one she's going to work on all these challenges I just listed.

She's been the vice president for three and a half years.

Day one was 1,400 days ago and her policies have made these problems worse.

Now I believe that we have the most beautiful country in the world.

I meet people on the campaign trail who can't afford food, but have the grace and generosity to ask me how I'm doing and to tell me they're praying for my family.

What that has taught me is that we have the greatest country, the most beautiful country, the most incredible people anywhere in the world.

But they're not going to be able to achieve their full dreams with the broken leadership that we have in Washington.

They're not going to be able to live their American dream if we do the same thing that we've been doing for the last three and a half years.

We need change.

We need a new direction.

We We need a president who has already done this once before and did it well.

Please vote for Donald Trump.

And whether you vote for me or vote for Tim Wallace, I just want to say I'm so proud to be doing this and I'm rooting for you.

God bless you and good night.

Let me make both those clips.

I'd like to turn that into one clip and we'll post that so you can send that out.

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Yeah, I think I did a good job hosting.

You're right.

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It'd be a weird title.

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Toxic Masculinity.

Oh, yeah, sorry.

First of all, she's great at naming books.

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Hi, Selena.

Hi, Glenn.

Hi.

I just want to first, I know we want to talk about the dock workers, but I've only got like eight minutes or so.

Can you talk to me about

what you thought of the debate last night?

So I did what I have done since 2012 and not gone to wherever the debate is because they put you in a room and you're just with other journalists and I watched it in a bar and

I try to pick places

where I know the vote swings a lot, right?

Pick counties

or towns or municipalities where the vote is sort of up in the air.

And there was a diverse group of people in this particular bar.

And

based on them, I mean, my own assessment is the Vance that I have covered since 2016, that I have known since 2016,

showed up.

And these voters thought the same thing.

In fact, there were

two people at the bar who were undecided, and they flipped to Trump Vance.

I thought that

the event was for the most part cordial,

mature, but I thought that Vance showed the side of himself that people have not seen mostly because of the way he's been covered.

You know, he's sort of been covered to be this, you know, freak or weird or whatever the word that they're, you know, or extremist, whatever the word is, the going, you know, go going description of.

But he showed what I have always thought was his greatest strength.

He's a happy warrior.

Yeah.

No matter what argument he is making, he does it in an aspirational way.

He always brings the facts,

and he is,

he's happy.

He does it with a smile.

And people have, it has astonished me, as I've watched the coverage of him since he was picked, that no one in my profession has picked up on that.

And that was my first impression of him in 2016.

It was my impression of him when I covered him in the 2020 primary race in Ohio and the general election race.

And I think people see that, and

my fellow journalists tend to not see that because they don't know anyone from Appalachia.

Okay, so before we get to

the economy and the wharf or the ports,

tell me what you're feeling on the election right now.

Who do you think

any idea?

Yeah,

this feels very much like 2016.

If the election were held today, now, as we have learned, crazy things happen minute by minute.

We don't know what's going to move anything.

However, if the election were held today, I believe Trump dance would win.

Wow.

Okay, good.

All right, let's talk about the dock workers because President Biden yesterday said he's not going to get involved.

He doesn't want to get involved.

He doesn't want to force them back to work.

But he's doing it, I think, because he doesn't want to lose the union vote or hurt the union vote.

But at the same time,

I mean, 90% of our, like 93% of our medication come through those ports.

Food,

cars come through that, car parts come through those ports.

This is very dangerous to play for more than a week.

Yeah, and also, as I wrote about yesterday,

all of our farm commodities go in and out of that port.

And

that's going to have a direct impact on food inflation.

You know, farmers are always at the short end of the stick of whatever is going on in the American psyche: politics, weather,

trade deals.

But, you know, this is a really, really

interesting

strike to navigate.

And here's why.

Forever and a day,

or at least since the 1920s, so for the past 100 years,

automation is what has been killing the jobs for the working men and women in the country.

And they brought that up as a sticking point in their negotiations.

And I think it's really making

people think

about all the impact automation and eventually AI is going to have on everyone's jobs.

And also,

you know,

they have incredible, meaning the longshoremen right now, they have incredible power right now and attention,

something they rarely get.

And how they navigate that moment is incredibly important in the union movement, right?

I would argue that there's no holding on to the union vote anymore.

For the Democrats, they're going to get a certain percentage of it, but not much.

The Republican Party has become the party of work.

It's not divided down by race in the way that my profession tends to look at it, as well as pollsters.

They're like, you know, black working class, white working class, Hispanic working class.

No, they don't vote by race.

They vote by their community and what they do.

And they're all living shoulder to shoulder.

So

I think that

Biden has missed a moment to, you know, look like he's taking leadership and trying to get these guys to work together, meaning

management and the union workers.

And I think that voters believe that that is something that Trump would be better at.

Let me and so.

Go ahead.

No, finish up.

And I think that's where we're at right now with this whole scenario.

So can we please play Cut 40?

I want to play the longshoreman's president.

Yesterday, what he said about the strike.

You are going to grind the economy to a halt here on the East Coast and the Gulf Coast.

Are you worried that this strike is going to hurt the everyday American, the farmers that need to reach the export market?

They're telling me that they're going to hurt the Romania.

You start to realize who the longshoremen are, right?

Nobody cares.

People never gave a about us until now, when they finally realized that the chain is being broke now.

Cars won't come in.

Food won't come in.

Clothing won't come in.

You know how many people depend on our jobs?

Half the world.

And it's time for them and time for Washington to put so much pressure on them to take care of us because we took care of them and we're here 135 years and brought them where they are today and they don't want to share.

What are your thoughts on that?

How does that play with the American people?

Well, here's the thing.

You know, he's bombastic.

He's a character.

He wears a lot of gold, right?

Yeah.

However,

however, he does speak to something that is at the core, very important

to a lot of people in this country, and that is being seen.

Right?

Yes.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing what they're doing.

This is

going to have a devastating impact.

Yeah, devastating.

However, the thing that we are missing is, and what they're telling us is, and this is whether you support the strike or not,

they are finally in their mind and a lot of other people out there that work jobs that make our economy go, that are

important cog in our supply chain, they're saying we are being seen.

And I think that's the missing component of this.

Yes, they're hurting all of us.

They are hurting all of us.

However, there is that part that I think is most important to explore as there's a whole bunch of people in this country who don't believe black, white, Asian, Hispanic, whatever.

They don't feel as though they are seen.

And that is at the heart of what's going on right now.

I think that is the heart of the Trump campaign.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

I mean, I've written about, you know, East Palestine, right?

Yeah.

When Trump went to East Palestine in February of 2021,

no, or was that 20, no, 2023.

I'm sorry.

It feels like forever ago.

In 2023,

he

was at the down that was he was the worst in his polls against Ron DeSantis.

In fact, Ron DeSantis was beating him in every primary poll.

Now, again, it's a year before, but whatever.

You know, voters were still a little bit irked by losing a winnable Senate

race a couple months before.

But he showed up.

I mean, I was there.

He had galoshes on, right?

And he's walking through these muddles and pud, and it was sleet and raining, and nobody knew what was in those puddles.

No one knew what was in that soil.

We still don't know.

But he showed up and that was the pivotal moment for Trump.

That's when he started to regain

the trust in the American psyche.

That's when he became

the potential that he has always had.

And that's when he never stopped looking back after that moment.

Everyone says, sort of, okay, it's because of, you know,

these lawsuits and whatever that make people like him more.

Maybe, possibly, probably.

However, I think it was that pivotal moment, and that goes back to being seen.

It's the same in showing up in Butler.

Why the heck does he go to Butler, Pennsylvania?

There's not a big population there.

However, it's very representative of the people who don't feel seen.

And there's 42 miles between East Palestine and Butler, Pennsylvania.

And there is no more important 42 miles in the entire country.

You can take those 42 miles and place it just about anywhere.

And there are people in that

spread of mileage that feel the same way about not being seen.

So, Selena, can I ask you to hold on for just a second?

Because I want to continue our conversation.

Because I have an

important

question

about

the lack of seeing the victims of this hurricane.

And

I have a

very cynical view of this, and I'd like you to talk me down from the tree on it.

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Okay, so there is

what's happening in North Carolina is

just dreadful, tragic, and shameful.

I mean, I feel to some degree like I felt with the Afghanistan withdrawal.

This is shameful.

America doesn't do this.

To have such a lackluster FEMA response

and people still helping each other,

There's no soldiers coming.

There's nothing.

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And I wondered, why would you do that so close to the election?

Why wouldn't you have been prepared like crazy?

There's lots of excuses that could go, but one is looking at the FEMA website that

they're about preparedness.

They're about equity.

They're not that equity is their number one goal,

not disaster relief.

So I think there's a change in FEMA, but more importantly, and this is the really cynical part,

you've just taken out a whole swath of Trump voters.

You have taken it, where if they don't have electricity, they don't have food, they don't have roads, they don't have cars, they don't have basic necessities, they ain't going out to vote.

Is that too cynical?

Okay.

I have been writing about Appalachia for a while.

I live in Appalachia.

It is 423 counties that diagonally spreads from southern New York all the way down to the tip of Mississippi.

And it has long

been a place that has been ignored by our cultural curators.

What do I mean by that?

I don't just mean government, which is shameful.

Government, but also corporations, Hollywood,

you know, institutions, academia.

This is the place that they always ignore.

They do not understand it.

Why?

They don't live anywhere near it.

They don't know anybody that came from there.

And if they happened to have originally been born there, they have long shed any cultural connection to the region.

So Appalachia used to be

this whole diagonal part of our country, used to be majority Democrat.

Didn't change until start changing until 2014.

Changed dramatically by 2016.

But they are still the same people, right?

It's that the parties have left them.

But they don't, you know, Appalachia is hard to navigate, it's hard to get to, and it's easy to dismiss because there are no there there's no centers of power or wealth in any of them.

It doesn't behoove our cultural curators to pay attention when disaster hits.

Remember last year when Kentucky got ravaged by flooding?

Yes.

I mean, you probably don't,

unless you were paying attention or lives in Kentucky?

No, it was like a story for five minutes.

Yeah.

And this happens all of the time.

I will tell you this.

These are the most resilient, hardworking,

persistent people, and they will find a way to vote.

They will crawl through mud to vote.

But it is shameful the way, let's just stick with my profession.

It is shameful the lack of attention that it has given to this, given how devastating it is.

It is so shameful that

I believe that Mercury One was the first

drop of food and water, if not the first, one of the very few at the very beginning, that that shouldn't be that way.

The federal government has the resources.

They have the airplanes, the helicopters.

They could have been flying in food and emergency supplies within an hour, and they didn't.

And it's shameful.

It's absolutely shameful.

But look who stepped up.

Look at who stepped up in this moment.

It is people like like you it is people like nine line like all of these sort of black rifle all these organizations that are based on people that have served our country right and who else is helping each other fellow north carolinians fellow virginians people from south carolina fellow georgians and and and and west virginia and virginia who you know who have also been hit these are the people that have stepped up and maybe the biggest lesson is here is that these people are resilient and they can take care of themselves.

No thank you, government.

Thank you.

Selena, thank you so much.

We'll talk again.

Stay safe.

By the way, I will be in Appalachia tomorrow afternoon.

I'll be in Asheville, North Carolina.

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Let's first start with the debate last night.

Yeah, I thought J.D.

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Well, he vindicated Trump in his own dissenting.

It's the first time I think anybody has done that really well.

Yeah, and he almost vindicated the virtues of an Ivy League education.

Of course, Tim Waltz boasts that no one he's ever taught has gone to an Ivy League school.

That's something a teacher should say.

He takes a certain pride in the lack of achievement of his.

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Absolutely.

I mean, this, the thing about Waltz is he's conveying a certain, I guess they brought him on to bring up, to make a left-wing populism, to counter

JD's appeal to like the white working class, but I'm really not sure that that's Waltz's appeal at all.

He has a kind of.

What is his appeal?

Well, it's a kind of Aushuck's goofballism, which is a little unbecoming the way I see it.

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The emotionalism is out of proportion with the event.

And it's that exaggerated mannerism.

I think there's a, you know, we all know there's a kind of fake fakery with Kamala Harris.

I think there's a different kind of artificiality or fakery with with with Tim Waltz.

The thing about J.D.

Vance and Trump, by contrast, is authenticity.

I mean, they're both the real deal.

They are.

Right?

JD came out from the kind of the dregs of society as he writes himself.

He said

twice, I'm from middle class.

No, he's not.

No.

He's from low class.

And not only that, but it's in a kind of way worse because it's one thing to grow up in poverty, right?

There are Indians who grew up in the slums.

But you take a slum kid and you give him opportunity and he'll thrive.

Why?

Because he's actually got a family.

He's got a kind of a social structure even in the slum.

He's just missing opportunity.

With J.D.

Mance, if you read about his family, his grandmother setting his grandfather on fire,

the cultural dysfunctionality

mirrors anything you'd find in a barrier or in a ghetto.

Yeah, I mean, his mom is addicted to heroin.

How many people do you know that grew up like that that have achieved just breaking that cycle?

Just breaking that cycle is a huge victory.

Going on and being a vice presidential candidate who held his own like he did last night, that is only in America, literally only in America.

You know, it's funny, he has the Indian wife.

I had him on my podcast, and my name, Dinesh, is said Dinesh in America, but in India, it's said a little differently.

It's actually said more like Dinesh, right?

So anyway, JD comes on, he goes, hello, Dinesh.

and it kind of startled me.

But then I remembered he got it from Usha.

He probably said, Call him the niche, you know.

And so I chuckled out loud.

But so JD has this kind of wonderful life story of moving in a way from kind of rural Appalachia into a certain cosmopolitanism and a certain urbane style, which is very fact-driven, very measured.

So I thought he was very effective.

So

I think he was most effective last night at giving people who might want to vote for Donald Trump but are just a little hesitant.

You know, I don't know.

I thought

he made it okay to vote for Donald Trump for those people who are edgy.

about it.

You know what I mean?

We also can't forget that Trump is well into his 70s, and I think people who are voting for Trump have to look a little bit beyond Trump.

And so JD has to make people comfortable that, hey, you know what?

If something happens to Trump and I'm in the saddle, I'm going to be fine.

And I think he did do that last night.

And it was, I mean, it shows Donald Trump is not planning on, you know, becoming king forever, because that is clearly a successor.

He picked a successor.

Yeah, and I think also Trump dispelled the idea, which was kind of circulating with Mike Pence, that somehow Trump is this alpha male, and he picks people who are very passive, people who will never steal the limelight, people who are not smarter than he is.

But JD is, in a way, competitive on all those fronts.

And Trump appears to be very comfortable in picking a guy like JD.

So I think it says a lot about Trump as well as about JD.

He really likes, he likes JD.

Let me take that same kind of path of making it okay to vote for Donald Trump.

I have been saying for a while, and I'm so glad you're doing this, somebody has to compile

all of the things that have been said about Donald Trump and compare it to what the truth is now that we can prove all of the things that are true.

I just, I just saw Leslie Stahl on 60 Minutes back in 20, I don't know, 2017 or sometime, and they were talking about his Russian collusion.

And he said, Leslie, that's not true.

And they are, they, they bugged my office.

They were spying on, and she just became indignant.

That's not true.

There's no evidence of that.

Well, now we know the evidence.

So the

vindication of Trump is so important.

And the vindication of Trump is important because Trump himself does his own thing.

There's a certain appealing shtick.

Trump is a bit of a stand-up comedian.

Of course, in the two assassination attempts, he showed, I think, a sublime level of courage.

Oh, yeah.

And I don't know anyone alive who would respond to either assassination attempt that way.

Not to mention, by the way, the 91 criminal charges.

Think of it.

Any other Republican facing two criminal charges would probably have exited the field.

Yes.

May never be heard from again.

And Trump not only survives and endures, he is such a, he does so much legal rope-a-dope.

He thwarts all the gag orders.

You know, he comes right out of the courtroom and starts speaking and taking on the judge.

So his ability to forge ahead is sort of legendary.

It is.

Now, that being said, when I remember flashing back to the Reagan days, Reagan would stand up and make the case for himself.

Here are the reasons to vote for me.

Trump does not do that.

And that's why this film, Vindicating Trump, it's in theaters now, by the way, 800 and some theaters around the country.

And I have a book of the same title coming out in about a week.

Right.

VindicatingTrump.com, if I can give the website,

type in your city or your town, and boom, the theaters will pop right up.

So this has been, I think, an exciting project because, like you say,

we can now look back and see all the ways in which devious things were done and presented as true.

Here's a small example.

Fauci recently comes out and says, you know that six-foot social distancing rule?

There were no studies behind that.

There was no science.

All the follow the science was made up.

The rule was made up.

But then I always think to myself, why?

Why did you make up that rule?

And the answer, I think, is obvious.

And that is, if people have to be six feet apart from each other, you can't have a normal election.

Because in a normal election, people stand in line to vote.

So the justification for mailing out millions of ballots, mailing Dropboxes, changing all the rules, all of this was connected in some way to the social distancing that was presented as something that was a mandate, but as it turns out, was a conjecture.

Have we even

begun to turn the corner on any of this?

I mean, I'm seeing, like, I think Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., his running mate, who is, you you know, now she's even saying, no, the election was stolen in 2020.

She said, I didn't believe it before.

I believe it now because I've seen the inner workings of the Democratic Party.

This is the point.

I think there's been a real, certainly a breakthrough in people grasping how deep this problem lies.

In fact, I think we have to give a little bit of rope to Trump in the sense that some of the mistakes that Trump made were he came in from the outside.

I think Trump thought, we know the media is left wing.

We know that Hollywood is left-wing.

but is the FBI left-wing?

Yeah.

The CIA, the military, really?

I think Trump thought, if I bring in a general, John Kelly, this guy's going to do what I say.

He'll get it done.

So the idea that the guys in the lab coats at the CDC and the NIH were ideological, were corrupt, were lying, I don't think that crossed his mind.

Yesterday, a couple of days ago, I saw George Conway raging on one of these shows and he was saying, you know, Trump is such a narcissist.

He only cares about himself.

You know, he doesn't care about people.

He He doesn't care about the country.

And I'm thinking to myself, my mind flashed back to COVID.

And I thought, here's Trump in March of 2020.

He's got a roaring economy, which is going to carry him on his little surfboard right across the finish line.

And then the people in the white coats come to him and say, you got to shut it down.

Right now, if Trump only cared about himself, he'd be like, I don't care.

Let the pandemic rage.

That's not my problem.

I want to get across the finish line.

That's my goal.

But no, Trump immediately goes, you know what?

I actually know know that I'm killing the golden goose that I created and I'm going to jeopardize my own chance of reelection.

And he did it.

And he did it more effectively than what they're saying now.

He went beyond what they were saying.

They were saying, you know, the left was saying at first, you know, he's a racist.

And he's like, I'm shutting it down.

I'm shutting it down because this is the advice.

That is not remembered either.

No, no.

And

And the achievement was that Trump said, look, we need to fight this and we need to fight this with science.

And so he deployed

the effort to try to find a vaccine.

Now, apparently, they found a vaccine that reduces the severity, but then they started lying about that, right?

You take the vaccine.

This is Rochelle Walensky.

You can't get COVID.

You can't give away.

Give COVID.

The disinformation was coming from the government.

That's the whole point.

So when Tim Wall stands up last night and goes, well, you can't shout fire in a crowded theater.

We're not talking about shouting fire in the crowded theater.

We're talking about the government censoring critics who are saying truthful things in response to the government's own lies.

We're not the theater already burnt down.

We're outside saying, who started the fire?

It appears maybe the firemen were involved.

That's the difference.

And that's when free speech must happen.

Must happen.

I think the key thing I'm trying to do here with Trump is answer en passant, or along the way, the Republican who says something like this, I don't like Trump, but I like his policies.

Or they'll say, you know, he needs to shut his mouth.

Or Dinesh, tell him to stop posting on social media.

So there's a certain idea out there that we need a new and different Trump, a kind of a reform Trump.

We need to remake Trump.

But my point is that a lot of Trump's greatest qualities come out of the same personality that is over the top.

I mean, Trump is obviously, you know, he's a salesman.

And he'll say things like,

for him, the crowd isn't just big.

It has to be the biggest crowd ever.

Yeah, yeah.

Right?

The burgers at Mar-a-Lago aren't just good.

They're like the best burgers ever made.

You know, that's Trump.

And everyone knows that.

Even his dictator for a day is Trumpian shtick.

Yeah.

Now, I'm not a dictator, but maybe for one day, you know, this is like stand-up comedy, and the left pretends to take it seriously.

I think that's the key point.

They pretend that he poses this severe threat.

Deep down, they know he doesn't.

But deep down, they also do fear him like they don't don't fear any other Republican.

I've only got about 40 seconds.

Tell me about the

idea of 7% in the latest polling coming out of Pennsylvania.

There's a seven-point spread between people who say they're going to vote for Trump and people who say, I know Trump and his policies are better for me economically and for my life.

What's that gap?

And does that go away?

Do those 7%

actually walk in and vote for Trump?

Yeah, I think

if the American people could see

there's a dimension of Trump, he's a genuinely nice guy.

So, for example, he's famously egotistical in public, right?

He loves praise.

In private, he's not.

He's actually self-deprecating, and he shows great curiosity about people.

He also is very,

he has a certain generosity of spirit.

And all of this is evident to people who are around him.

I try hard.

The centerpiece of this film is a one-on-one with Trump, and I try to bring out that private dimension of Trump, which I think will give people a great deal of not just comfort, but enthusiasm in supporting him.

Okay.

You can find out

where this is playing near you.

Just go to vindicating Trump.com.

Vindicating Trump.com.

That's the website.

And find it wherever you can.

Make sure you bring some friends with you.

VindicatingTrump.com.

Also,

we'll have you back when the book comes out.

Thank you, Dinash.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

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It was one of the worst answers I've ever heard.

I don't know how he wasn't prepared for that.

Everyone knew that question theoretically was coming.

I guess.

Theoretically, it was coming.

You've never been challenged before.

You know,

the press never

challenged you.

What do you make of the idea that because they put Tim Walls in bubble rep since he was named, he just

didn't have the reps?

I mean, it looked at times like he was out of practice of doing

interviews slash.

You know, who he reminded me of is,

do you remember Ross Perot's

Admiral?

Yeah, and he was a great guy.

He was really well qualified, but he had never done anything like that.

And

he just got slaughtered by the press.

That is honestly, I kept thinking of him last night.

I don't think he's good.

Like Stockdale, I think, was very well qualified for what he does.

I don't think Walls is, but he's never done it before.

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Hello, Chip.

Good morning, Gwen.

How are you, brother?

I am.

I'm really good.

I wish

people were taking the

crisis that we are facing on the border more seriously.

I think it's getting better, but I don't think people understand what we are actually facing.

And the state of Texas came out and called a spade a spade.

The Venezuelan gang has now been, by Texas, called what it is, a terrorist organization.

Well, you know, look, I do think the election season, JD Vance last night, broadly speaking, where we've been trying to drive the message over the last few years is taking root.

It's taking time.

We obviously have a media that doesn't want to help.

They covered up.

They, you know, they basically make excuses for an administration that is purposely abusing our borders to achieve their political aims.

And in the process, they are endangering Americans.

Americans are dying.

And migrants are getting abused.

JD handled that very well, pushing back on that last night.

I know we'll talk about the debate in a minute.

But on the issue, it's really important because this comes up a lot.

And I know you get this a lot as a man of faith.

We get pushed back on it, saying it is unchristian-like, right?

That we are not being compassionate.

And you hear the Pope out there talking about this.

If we want to have our borders be secure and stop the flow of illegal immigration.

I think that is exactly backwards.

I do too.

The Bible is very specific about sovereignty, about God's plan, about the nations.

You don't have to look any further than the history of Israel itself and how they dealt with boundaries.

And there's plenty of scripture recognizing sovereignty and God's plans.

But importantly, it is inherently un-Christian and uncompassionate to allow these children to be abused, to allow people to be abused, to be put in harm's way, to be used by the cartels, to be then put in slave labor, to be put in the sex trafficking trade, to have 320,000 kids get misplaced by our bureaucratic government who's being supposedly compassionate.

It's ridiculous.

We need to stand up for a sovereign nation because we have a right to do so.

Elon Musk says this very well.

Are you truly going to invite 7.7 billion people on this planet planet to come join the 300 million plus Americans and say that we don't have borders?

Well, then we don't have a nation.

It just defies common sense.

So the rule of law matters, and this is the last point I'll say.

The rule of law matters for the very people that are attracted to come here.

Because if we don't have the rule of law, if we don't have a nation, then they have no place to go.

That's the huddled masses have no place to long for and strive for.

And then we weaken the rest of the world.

We weaken the Western Hemisphere.

We empower our enemies.

And you have 35,000 Chinese nationals coming here.

You have all of these terrorist organizations.

You point out the Venezuelan gangs.

They're real.

I went out to Aurora, Colorado.

I went and met with the residents of those apartments who lost their ability to have a home, who didn't have a manager on site.

Venezuelan gangs were changing the locks.

This is all real.

It's true.

And thankfully, people are waking up.

Some of us have been screaming this for five years, seven in Congress.

Finally, I think the American people are finally waking up.

So tonight on the TV show, I'm exposing some of the things that that are happening overseas where they're training

for activities here in the United States

in places like Iran.

We are in serious trouble.

Our Department of Homeland Security has said

that it's only a matter of time now, and all of the lights are flashing red.

I'm surprised we haven't been hit yet, but I would expect one after the election

or shortly before the election.

What is it going to take for

people to understand

this is not going to get better unless you make a massive change in leadership?

Well, I hope people are starting to see that.

You know, what we see right now is the destruction of America.

Nothing less than that.

And I think it's really important.

And I think I'm in a unique position to make that point.

You no doubt have listeners who have long fully supported President Trump, maybe a few that were, no, I support DeSantis, but now they're back to Trump.

I was out there advocating for Ron DeSantis.

He's a good friend and a good man, and I very much respect him.

I can't overstate how critical it is and important it is that Donald Trump get elected on November 5th.

I cannot overstate that.

If we don't get him elected, I don't believe the Republic can survive.

I don't think it is any ⁇ I don't think that's hyperbole, Glenn.

We live in a world where people do this stuff for clicks.

They do this stuff and they say outrageous things.

I don't like making statements like that.

I believe in our country.

Our country turns 250 years old

in 2026 and July 2nd when we voted to break away from England.

I believe in the values of this country and the greatness of so many Americans, but

this administration, the current radical progressive Democrat regime, have completely disintegrated our safety, security, and culture.

They've invited masses of people into our country, released known criminals, known murderers.

Think about that.

You saw that data that was released last week with the 13,000, 15,000 known murderers and whatever.

We've known this.

We finally get a report from the administration confirming it.

We've known it because you can see it with your own eyes.

Lake and Riley's family knows it.

Jocelyn Nungare's beautiful mama Alexis Nungare knows it.

Kayla Hamilton's family knows it.

Rachel Morin's family knows it.

Do I need to keep going down the list?

That's what they're doing to us.

So to take it back, you ask the question,

what will it take?

I think we're seeing what it will take, I hope, in real time.

But we're going to have to show up on November 5th, and as President Trump says, make it too big to rig.

So let me ask you that question.

FEMA doesn't seem to be pulling out all of the stops to help the people in Appalachia.

That is

Trump country.

I don't know who is working on making sure that the people who don't have roads, cars, electricity, are in five weeks going to be able to pull

a lever for whoever they want to vote for.

Are we doing anything about that?

Well, without getting into the specifics,

some good friends of mine in North Carolina I've been having conversations with about that very point, ensuring that we're able to get all of the people who want to have a say in their elections and should have a say in their elections despite the absolute tragedy that has occurred in the western part of North Carolina and the eastern part of Tennessee.

Don't want to forget that as well.

Oh, I know.

It's Appalachia.

And I know you don't.

I just meant, you know, broadly, we all keep talking about North Carolina and, you know, parts of Georgia, parts of Tennessee.

They all got hit hard.

And but to your point, yes, some conversations are going on to make sure we try to focus on that.

I've had some good conversations with the national GOP.

And there's a limit to what you can do to some degree, right?

It's local, you know, local registrars and they have to figure out how to get it done.

Obviously, right now, we're trying to get, you know, Elon, God bless him, is donating Starlink.

We're trying to get that stuff out.

FEMA's nowhere to be found.

The FCC and all of the federal government that walked away from allowing Starlink to be given out to increase broadband.

Instead, they're sitting around and now these people don't have anything.

So

Elon and others, private sector people are stepping up.

And I will say that's one thing.

Go back to the Cajun Navy from a few years back, right?

You know, came over to help during the floods and the hurricanes.

My friend Corey Mills down in Florida, he's working with some private sectors and some guys that are ex-military.

They're flying in, flying helicopters, and they're just sticking their middle finger up to the bureaucracy, to the federal government, and local government, by the way, that wants to get in the way of it all.

That's the way we save our country.

It's not getting in this weird, like, you know, internet's in battles in D.C.

I do my best up here to try to basically, the way some of my friends put it, we're kind of prophets to a degree.

We have to like kind of go look at what's going on, send up the warning signals.

You know, I wrote a letter in April about the George Soros radio issue because I saw it coming.

That's our job, right?

Is you look out, you go put that stuff out there, and you try to highlight for the people so we can raise the issue.

Because like it or not, I'm one 435th of one half of one-third of this crap hole, and we have to build numbers.

And the American people in our system are the ones that help us build the numbers.

So that's, you know, what we try to do.

I got off target, sorry.

No, that's fine.

Are we going to actually look into the funding of those George Soros

funders?

Yeah, I mean,

we're looking into it.

Like I said, I rose the issue up, got some committee folks looking at it.

I'm trying to figure out there's some lawsuits.

You know, some of our friends at America First Legal, there's going to be, I think, some radio stations and some others that would have standing.

We're trying to figure out who would have standing.

I don't have standing.

I don't think.

We're trying to figure that out how we can at least litigate it to try to stop it because what they're doing is unprecedented.

It's unlawful, we believe.

Do I have standing?

Because I'm on some of those stations.

Do I have standing?

You may be, and you might need to have that conversation.

I'm happy.

Let's have that conversation.

You might have standing because we need to elevate that issue.

It's a huge, huge issue.

You all, you know, better than I do.

And so, you know, look, I was talking to Brendan Carr in the FCC.

He's been one of the leaders on this.

I'm sure you've followed him up on social media.

And Brendan, he's been putting this out there.

I said, dude, what do we do?

He goes, God, we got to win in November because we're outvoted.

You know, they lost three to two.

It was a bad decision, but that's what happens.

Like the people that run FERC, it's like the people that run everything else.

If we don't win in November, back to the point, you know, five minutes ago, we lose the country.

Yeah.

That's what's at stake.

It's things like this, the FCC.

Yeah, Tulsi Gabbard said

Tulsi Gabbard said to me last night, I was talking to her after the debate, and she said, Glenn, this is all about freedom of speech.

The last thing that J.D.

Vance said in the debate was, this is about freedom of speech.

And it is.

We are going to lose freedom of speech if they are re-elected to another term.

And we are going to lose our very way of life as a result.

And we're going to be attacked on our Second Amendment.

We're going to be attacked on all of the things upon which our nation was founded.

These rights come from our creator.

They are our rights.

The government that was created by the founders recognized those rights.

They didn't give us those rights.

We have to flex our muscle.

people who, as the Declaration lists out, as Jefferson and to some degree, some help from Adams and Franklin, as those guys wrote that out, it was very clear what they meant.

And we are supposed to live freely.

And we need this government to reflect that because we love our country.

We look at the flag with pride.

We look at the history and all that it stood for.

I believe we can take it back.

But let's remember, we have a right to live free.

That's the bottom line.

That's what it actually boils down to at the end.

And so

this election is going to decide whether or not these 50 states can stand united and be a

strong and sovereign nation.

This election is going to decide that.

Again, I don't like engaging in hyperbole, but when the founders talk about the right to pursue happiness,

we've got to pursue happiness.

I want it to be with this country.

We better win in November to make that happen.

Okay.

Chip, thank you so much.

I really appreciate it.

God bless you.

Chip Roy from the great state of Texas, Congressman from the state of Texas.

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Can we play the full answer of of Tiananmen Square?

I mean, this is the weirdest thing.

This guy just is a pathological liar.

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And it's not just lying about, okay, my, like, for example, he also lied about the border thing where he said Donald Trump had more people crossing the border than they.

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This is about his life.

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Governor Walls.

You said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly Tiananmen Square protests in the spring of 1989.

But Minnesota Public Radio and other media outlets are reporting that you actually didn't travel to Asia until August of that year.

So later.

Can you explain that discrepancy?

Yeah, well, and to the folks out there who didn't get at the top of this, look, I grew up in small rural Nebraska, a town of 400, a town that you rode your bike with your buddies till the streetlights come on, and I'm proud of that service.

I joined the urban art at 17, worked on family farms, and then I used the GI Bill to become a teacher, passionate about it, a young teacher.

My first year out, I got the opportunity in the summer of 89 to travel to China, 35 years ago, be able to do that.

I came back home and then started a program to take young people there.

We would take basketball teams, we would take baseball teams, we would take dancers, and we would go back and forth to China.

The issue for that was, was to try and learn.

Now, look, my community knows who I am.

They saw where I was at.

They, look, I will be the first to tell you.

I have poured my heart into my community.

I've tried to do the best I can.

It's not been perfect.

And I'm a knucklehead at times, but it's always been about that.

Those same people elected me to Congress for 12 years.

But they didn't know that you were lying.

I was one of the most bipartisan people.

Like farm bills that we got done, working on veterans benefits.

And then the people of Minnesota

were to elect me to governor twice.

So look, my commitment has been from the beginning to make sure that I'm there for the people, to make sure that I get this right.

I will say more than anything.

Many times I will talk a lot.

I will get caught up in the rhetoric.

But being there, the impact it made, the difference it made in my life, I learned a lot about China.

I hear the critiques of this.

I would make the case that Donald Trump should have come on one of those trips with us.

I guarantee you he wouldn't be praising Xi Ji.

Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to the worst.

He wouldn't start a trade war that he ends up losing.

So this is about trying to understand the world.

It's about trying to do the best you can for your community.

And and then it's putting yourself out there and letting your folks understand what it is.

My commitment, whether it be through teaching, which I was good at, or whether it was being a good soldier or was being a good member of Congress, those are the things that I think are the values that people care about.

Governor, just to follow up on that, the question was: can you explain the

discrepancy?

All I said on this was, is I got there that summer and misspoke on this.

So I will just, that's what I've said.

So I was in

Hong Kong and China during the democracy protests went in.

And from that, I learned a lot of what needed to be in governance.

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of Appalachia.

All right.

The other thing that happened yesterday that is so important is Israel.

Israel is going to respond, I believe.

We have Lieutenant Colonel retired Jonathan Conricus.

He's been on with us before.

He is a former Israeli Defense Forces spokesperson and now senior fellow of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

And we wanted to get you on,

Jonathan.

First of all, assuming you're in Israel, you're safe, and that's good.

Tell us what happened yesterday and what it means going forward.

Yes.

Hi, Glenn.

Thank you for having me again.

A pleasure.

What happened yesterday was the biggest missile attack

in Israeli history.

About 200 ballistic missiles were fired from about 800, 900 miles away in Iran.

at Israel.

The Iranians claimed that they were aiming for military targets, but most of the impacts were actually in civilian neighborhoods.

And luckily, and quite ironically, some may say, the only casualty in life was a Palestinian in Jericho.

No Israeli citizens were killed.

And while there were some impacts at an Israeli Air Force base,

nothing of substance and no real damage neither to infrastructure or to military capacity.

Oh, wait a minute.

I heard that several F-35s were taken out.

That's not true?

That is absolutely categorically not true.

Wow.

There wasn't a single plane hit, not a single hangar or bunker, and no single runway.

There were some logistics buildings in one of the Air Force bases.

I'm not going to say the name, but one of the Air Force bases was

hit.

It's already been fixed and patched up.

No damage to the Israeli Air Force's capability to continue to operate and as our enemies know the Israeli air force continues to operate in Beirut in other parts of the Middle East in southern Lebanon over Gaza and so the Iranian propaganda of having 90% of their targets were hit absolutely false and luckily air defenses again proved the enduring return on investment here many years of investing US and Israel doing that together And for the second time in

the moment of truth, air defenses were almost airtight and saved lots and lots of lives in Israel.

I have to tell you,

I mean,

I don't know if you're a religious man or not, but I am.

And

200 missiles being

launched, ballistic missiles, coming in and going into Israel and for no one to be killed and your your air force and your military bases not to be destroyed is an extraordinary miracle, I think.

I would agree.

And you don't have to be you know fearing in every day to recognize that something special happened again yesterday.

This is the second time that the Iranians unleash massive firepower.

And just for you to be, you know, to be able to

understand what we're talking about, the missiles that the Iranians fired are as big as school buses.

And they fired 200 of them, each one of them with hundreds of pounds, with about half a ton of explosives in their warheads.

So we're talking about very serious weapons, large explosions.

My family, we were in a bomb shelter.

My son got caught outside.

He was on the bus and then ran to a shelter.

And it was really a scene out of a movie with explosions and interceptions and hitting in Tel Aviv.

And as you said, the fact that no substantial damage and no loss of life,

many would say, and probably I would agree, that this was a miracle.

Air defenses, idea, and a miracle.

I have to tell you that

I watched those missiles come in live,

but, you know, obviously from the other side of the planet, and

I thought, what must that be like?

You know, I thought of missile launchers, missile launches here going outbound or coming in, something very few people in the world have seen what happened yesterday.

It must have been terrifying for the average person.

Seeing everything, the sky just lit up with fire.

Yes, the sky lit up with fire and each one of those

orange

dots in the air, you know that they're attached to uh hundreds of uh pounds of uh of explosives, they're lethal, and that they're aimed at the Israeli cities.

And there's explosions all around, lots of noise.

You know, we have uh just like in the US, you have the amber alerts uh system on on your phone.

So, the Israeli defense establishment did the same thing and issued like a push notification on all of the phones, even those who didn't have an app downloaded.

And it uh millions of Israelis simultaneously got very strong alarms on their phones, calling them to immediately go to shelters.

And that's what millions of Israelis did.

And that's also what thankfully led to the fact that even though some of the missiles exploded in populated areas in Israel, nobody was hurt because Israelis were disciplined and went into bomb shelters, and nobody was caught out in the open.

So, is Benjamin Netanyahu, do you think, going to respond to this?

Will he strike Iran?

And

is there any fear that they are going to cut off the oil

pathways?

Are you

when we look forward, then I think that the what?

Yeah, I'm here.

Can you hear me?

Yes, Ken.

Go ahead.

Can you hear me?

Yes.

Yes.

Right.

So when we look forward here, I think that two things will determine what happens next.

One is the Israelis

end game.

What does Israel seek to achieve?

Because there are a lot of things when it comes to the Iranian regime.

And

I'll clarify.

And the second

thing that is very important is how well will Israel coordinate with the United States of America and what will the level of support be that Israel will receive.

Now regarding the first part, Israel can go for regime targets, seats of government, leaders and personnel, infrastructure that is part of the Islamic regime.

Israel can go for military and economic targets, specifically the places

whereby the Iranian regime facilitates the export of oil

and whereby they make money, which is used, of course, to fund terror activities, all of the terror organizations around Israel.

And the third option, which of course many are eyeing and thinking about, is Iran's nuclear military facility, the research facilities, the storage facilities, and many others.

These are three distinctly different types of targets.

And it really matters what does Israel want to achieve?

Does Israel want to bring down the regime?

Does it only want to deter the Iranians from attacking Israel again?

Will Israel be told not to do anything significant by the Americans?

And I'll of course remind everybody last time that Iran attacked on the 13th and 14th of April, Israel wanted to retaliate in a much stronger way, but refrained from doing so under American pressure.

And instead, Israel focused on continuing and finishing the job in Gaza against Hamas.

I don't think that we're going to see that today.

And I think that we're going to see in the coming days a strong Israeli response.

It may be aimed at the regime, it may be aimed at their nuclear facilities.

What I think is absolutely important ahead of any Israeli activity is that Israel and the United States of America are coordinated and I hope American leaders will see this current situation, this threat to Israel as an opportunity to really do more in a week than what has been accomplished in 10 years of failed diplomacy when it comes to stopping Iran from going nuclear.

I really think there's an opportunity here.

Yeah, I think that would be good.

As long as, you know, there are calls from both sides yesterday that America needs to send more troops over.

I think we already have 40,000 that we've sent over.

We don't want to be in another war.

This one could go global.

I think Israel is showing the world, don't screw with us.

You guys are doing a great job, and I support that.

I just don't want to see us

inflame things by including ourselves in the actual strikes,

but supporting

agree with you.

And I wouldn't want

a single American serviceman in harm's way.

And I don't think that anybody needs to be fighting Israel's wars.

And I think that Israel, in its history, has many times done the heavy lifting for the rest of the Western world,

whether it's been dealing with Iraqi dictators or with Syria or with many others.

And Israel is quite accustomed to it.

And the only thing that Israel asks is military support, supplies, and of course, political and diplomatic support.

I don't think that Israel needs or wants any American servicemen to be in harm's way.

And I would just say a tremendous gratitude towards American servicemen in CENTCOM, deployed in

the Red Sea

on U.S.

Navy ships in the air.

done tremendous work in intercepting Iranian missiles, very professional and super important.

And I hope that they remain safe.

And I hope that Israel can have the diplomatic and military freedom to do what it needs to do in order to defend itself.

Well, we here support you on whatever you have to do to defend yourself.

I support you, I should say, and I think there are millions of Americans that are listening that feel the same way.

Jonathan, thank you so much.

I really appreciate it.

Thank you.

You bet.

Lieutenant Colonel retired Jonathan Conricus, former Israeli Defense Forces spokesperson.

the only thing that you should really be looking for is escalation, but most importantly, as he was talking about, Red Sea.

When you get into the straits over there, just off the shores of Iran, if they start going after our Navy ships or they try to close those straits down, that is the world's flow of oil.

And we will get involved in that.

And that will become very, very,

very dangerous

because

this one will not be a partial war.

This one

will include,

I believe, bombings in our streets.

I believe we are close to terrorist activity, foreign terrorist activity in our own streets, orchestrated by Iran and a lot of others who are here and want to destroy us.

So we,

especially during this election season, we all need to be good Americans together, not Republicans, Democrats, but good Americans and start paying attention to these issues so we can take care of our own self first

so we survive this time period.

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and everything else, just to give you an idea of where we are on the election.

And the numbers seem far apart, but actually, the way this is compiled, it's a coin toss, at least it has been for the last few weeks, a coin toss on who's going to win.

What do we have today?

Latest update, the last update before the vice presidential debate.

None of the polling obviously is included yet.

Donald Trump with a 44.09% chance of winning the election.

Is that up or down for the day?

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The big blowout one is in Nevada, where Kamala Harris leads by 2.2.

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Pennsylvania and Michigan, she leads by 0.6.

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