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Well, hello, America, and welcome.

Freedom of speech.

Now, that's an interesting concept.

We're going to get into that here in just a minute.

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Also, Zuckerberg admitted to Congress yesterday in a letter that, yeah, yeah, okay, we did shadow ban people,

but we did it because they were really mean to us.

So we had to do it.

We just had to do it.

I think it was the most important thing in our lives.

We had to do it.

so they did it my question is where do i go to get my reputation back where do i go to get my uh my following back

why why am i still suppressed today mark zuckerberg just just wondering wondering maybe you jot down a you don't have to write a formal letter just maybe jot a note down to us and let us know we'll give you that and so much more in 60 seconds First, let me tell you about Relief Factor.

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well hello uh Stu how are you Glenn how are you good morning oh my gosh okay so you know we had

you just wanted to just touch on freedom of speech here you know we had Tommy Robinson on with us and Stu can you give a recap of who Tommy is and what the controversy was

remember barely I was I was away when you actually had him on oh okay but let me remember okay okay okay I'm sorry

so Tommy Robinson is this guy who is very outspoken on all of the

rape of children,

the pedophilia.

Hopefully against.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's outspoken against.

Yeah.

And he's in England, and he's saying that there's two levels of justice.

There's one for all the white people, and then one, or I shouldn't say that, one for all of the English people that were born in England, and then one for the

newcomers, you know, the refugees.

And by the way, me just saying that that way could get me arrested if I were in London or England.

So here's the thing.

He came out and they've been blaming him for all of the violence.

And he said, no, don't, you can't blame me for the violence.

It's your policies.

And he said, I have done a, just recently, I did a big rally and I said, peace is the only way to do this.

There can't be violence.

When I asked him if he was for violence, he not only reiterated that, but he said, just like your January 6th,

violence will be the end of our movement.

So we can't have any violence.

Violence hurts our movement.

So why would I be for it?

Well, after that interview, we posted it and it was up on YouTube.

And they immediately said that we couldn't post it because

it was inciting violence.

No,

it wasn't.

It was doing the exact opposite of that.

However, I don't think this was YouTube's call.

I think YouTube got pressure from the European Union and also pressure from England to make sure that that didn't get out.

So we've been suppressed and we appealed and we said to

YouTube that it didn't have a show us where the violence was.

Show us.

They didn't call us back.

They just put on the video, appeal rejected.

We looked at your content again and confirmed that it should stay limited.

This may be disappointing.

Oh, no, it's not disappointing.

It was expected.

But it's important that we keep the YouTube community protected.

YouTube, thank you for protecting me.

That is so important.

Meanwhile, you're convincing my kids that they can be, you know, another gender, which is scientifically impossible.

But thank you for the protection on this one.

So we tried to embed the video in a story that we were sending out.

And once we just, we just did, embed.

And what happened?

This video cannot be played here.

Its content has been identified by the YouTube community as inappropriate or offensive to some audiences.

So we are now

being

suppressed.

We know that Facebook has suppressed us a great deal in the last couple of years.

They are now looking into it, and I'm waiting to see what they find.

I'm sure they're honestly looking, especially after what happened yesterday with Zuckerberg.

Zuckerberg wrote a pretty astounding letter to

Jim Jordan and

the chairman of the judiciary looking into the weaponization of government.

He said, this is Zuckerberg's letter.

There's a lot of talk right now around how the U.S.

interacts with companies like Meta, and I want to be clear about our position.

Our platforms are for everyone.

We're about promoting free speech and helping people connect in a safe and secure way.

As part of this, we regularly hear from governments all around the world and others with various concerns around public discourse and public safety.

In 2021, senior officials from the Biden administration, including the White House, repeatedly pressured our teams for months to censor certain COVID-19 content, including humor and satire, and expressed a lot of frustration with our teams when we didn't agree.

Ultimately, it was our decision whether or not to take the content down, and we own our decisions, including COVID-19 related charges we made to the enforcement in the wake of this pressure.

I believe the government pressure was wrong and I regret that we were not more outspoken about it.

I also think we made some choices that with the benefit of hindsight and new information, we wouldn't make today.

Do you think?

Like I said to our teams at the time, I feel strongly that we should not compromise our content standards due to pressure from any administration in either direction, And we're ready to push back if something like this happens again.

Okay, good.

Okay,

all right, good.

In a separate situation, the FBI warned us about potential Russian disinformation operation about the Biden family and barisma in the lead up to the 2020 election.

That fall, when we saw New York Post story reporting on corruption allegations involving the then Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's family, we sent the story to fact

checkers for review and temporarily, temporarily demoted it while waiting for a reply.

It's since been made clear the reporting was not Russian disinformation, and in retrospect, we shouldn't have demoted the story.

We've changed our policies and processes to make sure this doesn't happen again.

For instance, we no longer temporarily demote things in the U.S.

while waiting for

oh, kneel down and bow down to the fact checkers.

Apart from content moderation, I want to address the contributions I made to the last presidential cycle to support electoral infrastructure.

The idea here was to make sure local election jurisdictions across the country had the resources they needed to help people vote safely during the global pandemic.

I made these contributions through the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative.

They were designed to be non-partisan,

spread across urban, rural, and suburban communities.

Still, despite the analysis I've seen showing otherwise, I know that some people believe this work benefited one party over the other.

My goal was to be neutral and not play a role in one way or another, or even appear to play a role.

So I don't plan on making a similar contribution this cycle.

Respectfully, Mark Zuckerberg.

Well, Mark, that's big of you.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

I appreciate that.

I would like to ask if I can get, you know,

unbanned now.

You know, can you not shadow ban me now?

You know,

I guess I could sue Facebook because now they're admitting that they are doing this thing.

I think there's probably a lot of lawsuits.

Or, Stu, does

Section 230 cover lawsuits like that when you're actually injured?

by Facebook?

No, Section 230 would not protect them in that way.

It would protect them against what the Telegram guy is facing in Russia.

Or France, excuse me, the Russian telegram guy.

So

in France, they just arrested the guy who

does something like Signal, where it is an encrypted communication device.

And you can just download the app and you can write to people in, like just like Signal

in Telegram, and nobody can read it.

Well,

because they don't have Section 230,

we're now having to live by

European standards.

This is why YouTube

is censoring me now.

They're censoring me because we could throw Glenn Beck under the bus or we could lose all of Europe.

Which do we choose?

Well, our principal, shut up, shut up.

We know we don't want to lose Europe.

French prosecutors released information on Monday about the potential criminal charges that the Telegram founder and CEO is now being investigated in connection that he was arrested last week when a private jet was landed in the country from Azerbaijan.

So

these are the 12 charges that they are investigating that appear to stem from Durov's alleged refusal to moderate illicit content on the platform.

So the idea here was with Section 230, you are either a publisher

or you're just a free space platform.

You either edit and hold standards or

you don't.

And if you don't, you can't be held responsible for anything.

But again, Europe doesn't have that.

They have publisher status.

So if you're doing an app and something's happening, well, you better know about it

well if you have an encrypted service how are you going to know about it unless you're listening in to all of the things that they're doing which would then negate the reason you would have encryption

so they listed 12 charges they're uh yeah i think they're all complicity okay

webmastering an online platform in order to enable illegal transaction in an organized group.

Complicity.

Now, I would like to know, has any of these guys from the WEF, are they ever going to be charged with complicity on destroying the Western way of life, destroying the Western hemisphere?

Because I know they're complicit in it.

I know they're talking to each other all the time.

I wonder if they're using anything like Signal.

Then refusal to communicate at the request of competent authorities.

I think you could argue that.

Competent authorities, are there any?

Information or documents necessary for carrying out and operating interceptions allowed by law.

Complicity, possessing pornographic images of minors.

Wow.

He doesn't have pornography of minors.

He's complicit with the people who do because those people were using his app.

Can you imagine?

Complicity, distributing, offering, or making available pornographic images of minors in an organized group.

So they're going to make this guy into a guy who is selling children for pornography or prostitution by making him an accomplice.

Complicity, offering or selling, making available without legitimate reason, equipment, tools, programs, or data designed or adapted to get access to and damage the operation of automated data processing systems.

Complicity, organized fraud, criminal association with a view to committing a crime or offense

punishable by five years or more in imprisonment.

Laundering of the proceeds derived from the organized group's offenses and crimes.

I guess that's because they were paying for the app.

Providing cryptology services aiming to ensure confidentiality

without certified declaration.

Providing cryptology tool not solely ensuring authentication or integrity monitoring without prior declaration.

You know, I love the cryptology where the government can monitor it.

I mean, don't you?

Or just anybody, maybe a third party, you know.

I love that kind of, I want a private conversation,

you know, with my friends, my family, my coworkers, whatever.

I want it to be private that nobody can hack into and take and put it online.

Well,

well, yeah, you can have that, but there's got to be a third party that's looking at it.

No, I don't think so.

Importing a cryptology tool, ensuring authentication or integrity monitoring without prior declaration.

That's what they're charging him with.

And we need to make a decision as a society.

Are we for freedom of speech?

Or are we not?

You know, there's always been conspirators that are walking around and having secret meetings, you know.

They're always having these secret meetings.

Quiet, quiet, quiet.

Now,

can we have those electronically?

Apparently not.

There are no secrets from the state.

So are we going to allow people who make this kind of stuff possible, are we going to allow them to go to jail, or are we going to allow them to make it available for all the good guys, knowing that some of the bad guys are going to be swept up in it, and then just go after the bad guys?

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Yeah, yeah, big endorsement.

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So, the founder of Telegram, which is very much like Signal here in America, was arrested in France.

He's the CEO of Telegram.

And he was arrested and charged, 12 charges, most of them conspiracy, for anything that anyone did wrong on his app.

But it is not a monitored app.

It is one that is encrypted for personal security and private conversations.

So how is he complicit?

Well, the answer is they don't have Section 230 over in Europe.

And as much as I hate Section 230, because it's not being upheld here in America, Only part of it is.

We have to have this.

Otherwise, there will be no freedom of speech.

I want you to listen to the founder.

He was on with Tucker Carlson,

I don't know, a couple of months ago.

Here he is talking about

how the U.S.

government is trying to shut him down.

The

FBI, the security agencies, wherever we came to the U.S.

So to give you an example, last time I was in the US, I brought an engineer that is working for Telegram and there was an attempt to secretly hire my engineer behind my back by cybersecurity officers or agents, wherever they are called.

The US government should hire your engineer?

That's my understanding.

That's what he told me.

To write code for them or to break into Telegram?

They were curious to learn which open source libraries are integrated to the Telegrams app, you know, on the client side, and they were trying

to persuade him to use certain open source tools that he would then integrate into the Telegram's code that, in my understanding, would serve as backdoors.

Would allow the US government to spy on people who use Telegram.

The US government, or maybe any other government, because a backdoor is a backdoor regardless of who is using it.

So that's pretty amazing,

isn't it?

Opening it for any government to be able to spy.

Now,

here's what

here's what Section 230 is supposed to do.

It requires the company to decide whether they're

an opinion place

or

or just a

publisher.

So if you're going to be a place for opinions and you want to censor,

you can't do that.

You can do that, but you're going to be sued every time you miss something.

So the government wrote Section 230 and it allowed Facebook and other places to say, we'll just be a publisher.

We'll just be a place that publishes anything.

It's an open space for everything, and we will not moderate the content.

We won't take anything down unless it's illegal.

If it's illegal, then we'll take it down.

But other than that, we cannot touch the content because if we do,

then we can be sued.

Well,

they are having it both ways.

They are editing the content, which should open up the door for them to be sued,

but they're not because they're claiming the other part of Section 230.

They're claiming the other choice, but doing

the opposite.

Does that make sense?

Can you explain this better than I am here, Stu?

I know what you're saying.

I mean, there's a disagreement on this, right?

And

the sort of modern conservative take on this law is how you basically just outline that.

The law itself, I think, is much more

kind

to big tech companies in a way that says basically, like, you, they can edit and not be sued.

They can moderate.

In fact, they have like really wide,

I would argue,

too wide in some ways,

ability to

edit and moderate their content.

And so they still retain.

If it's illegal, no?

I mean, the way it's written really, I think, opens it up for them to be able to do anything they want.

And in some ways, I agree with that, honestly.

I mean, it's their website.

Like,

if you started having message boards up on Glenbeck.com, you should be able to take down any post you want.

It's your site.

Right.

But anything that I leave up there,

I would be responsible for because it's my site.

Now, I mean, and of course, the social media companies argue there's no way we can moderate all of this.

And they they are.

There's no way we could do it at Glenbeck.com.

And they are probably right about that.

There probably is no actual way that they can moderate.

There's no way Telegram can go through a 200,000-person

text chain.

and moderate every one of the comments every day.

There's no, there's obviously no ability for human beings to do it.

At some level, you can do it on the algorithm level with that approach.

But at the end of the day, people get pissed off at that because these things are wrong all the time with the stuff that they take down.

It is a very difficult spot.

I don't have all that much sympathy for them because, frankly, I don't care about social media and want it all to be

launched into the sea, if at all possible.

I would love to have it launched in the sea.

My outcome is similar to the one of Max Zorin from A View to a Kill, where you just start an earthquake underneath Silicon Valley and then things turn out a lot better.

That's not necessarily

a biblical policy.

I recognize that.

And I don't actually want it to happen, but I do.

Like, I have no, no, when they say, well, then all these social media companies would go away.

I kind of go, eh,

okay.

God forbid we go back to a more sane time.

But I think

Section 230, unlike these other countries, it does protect these founders.

And like, we can all say we'd love to have Mark Zuckerberg arrested.

I mean, you know, I'm sure that's all over the internet and not being

throttled by

his opponents.

But I mean, in reality, we don't want a country where CEOs of tech companies get arrested because some crazy person posts something crazy on their service.

Like, that's not a good country either.

That's France.

That's what you're seeing right now being shown in France.

And while we might like the Telegram guy more than we like Mark Zuckerberg, I don't think that's an outcome Americans really do want.

No, I mean, Elon Musk would go to jail.

I mean, Elon Musk.

In an instant, with this leader.

In an instant.

With a Harris administration?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

In an instant.

He is protected somewhat by the law today, but they're trying to put him in jail, just like they're trying to put Donald Trump in jail.

In Europe, I think if he went over to Europe, I think they would arrest him.

The minute his plane arrived, I think they would arrest Elon Musk.

So he can't really travel over to Europe, at least I wouldn't if I were him, because they will do to him exactly what they did to the telegraph guy and charge him with all kinds of crimes.

Now, if we are that country and we have to not even change our laws but abide by the rules of Europe,

well then

where do you go?

You know, it's always been, you know, we lose America.

Where do you run?

Well, let me ask you, if we lose freedom of speech in America, this is becoming real.

Where do you run?

You're not going to Canada.

You're certainly not going to Europe.

Where are you going?

Russia?

China?

Where do you go?

What country will protect freedom of speech?

Which country?

I mean,

and I don't even know if this is true, but I would think maybe Israel,

maybe.

But unless you're Jewish, you can't become a citizen.

So where do you go, gang?

Where are you going to go where they're not going to extradite you?

I claim, and I believe this to be true, if Kamala Harris wins, these social media companies will bend the knee to Europe because all that has to happen is for our president to say, you know what, Europe, we're not playing that game with you.

You don't want that stuff?

Fine, but we're not extraditing and you got to knock it off.

But if Harris wins, I'm telling you right now, they will extradite people like me, like Ben Shapiro, like anybody else that you're listening to that is saying something

that offends people in Europe or, quite honestly, just tells the truth about what's going on in Europe.

They'll extradite.

And that way this administration could get rid of its enemies and they could say, we didn't have anything to do with it.

He broke the rules over in england uh he was very well aware of it and uh he decided to you know take that chance and they came a calling that's exactly what we're headed for

i think when when when half the country wakes up they're going to be in for a terrible terrible shock yeah no i i i i think you're right and i don't know where you go right like you know think about if something like this were possible in america which i mean of course it's it is possible we shouldn't put anything by our particular,

especially this administration, who does not seem to care at all about what the restrictions are when it comes to law or the Constitution.

So anything can happen here.

But if that sort of world does exist, I don't know where you go.

I mean, if you are Elon Musk.

You don't go to us.

Yeah.

You don't go to Australia.

You don't go to Europe.

You don't go to New Zealand.

You don't go to Europe.

I mean, you're probably.

You don't want to go to South Africa?

No.

No, you're probably.

I mean, he can't even, though he was born there, you know.

I mean, it's almost like you're going to wind up with him on some island, which

lasts probably as long as it takes until America or Europe decides to pressure that country to turn him over.

Which is

that's a disgusting state of affairs.

I mean,

I don't know.

Maybe you're going to El Salvador.

I don't know.

You can go to El Salvador.

You could go to Argentina.

But if there's a regime change.

Yep, who knows?

Good luck.

Yeah.

Argentina's a good example.

Like, there's some little, you know, I don't know,

you know, little rays of sunlight that you might be able to find around the world, but it's not a lot of people.

That's it.

And it seems like the ones it is completely on, Canada, you know, Europe, all these places are, are, are getting worse and worse by the day.

Yep.

Yep.

And can you think of another country other than El Salvador and Argentina?

Not really.

You know, Argentina is one that you would think, at least with this current leadership, is pretty hopeful.

They seem to be going certainly in the right direction.

But what happens if Argentina, if like, let's just say Ben Shapiro and me and Dave Rubin and Elon Musk and whatever, we all go to Argentina.

What do you think the world would do to Argentina?

Do you think they'd be trading with Argentina?

No.

Do you think there'd be any global pressure on Argentina?

And I just feel like the whole thing of taking in people who aren't appreciated politically into Argentina just has a negative connotation with me historically.

I just feel like I don't really want to run.

No offense to the current regime in Argentina, but there's just been some negative things that have happened historically.

Historically, it's not so great.

And what a surprise.

That's exactly what they would call us, and that's what they'd say about Argentina.

They would say, look, they're taking in the Nazis again.

And then there'd be there's that one town in Argentina that has like the German festival every year that has like swastikas all over the place.

And they'd have some visuals to back up the argument, unfortunately.

Yeah, they would.

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So, I asked Stu during the break,

break this out for me

because I think it's the same argument that Ted Cruz is making, and I'm not sure if this

is true.

No, actually, he's making the opposite.

He's dismissing, and I'm not sure which one is right.

If it comes to Stu and Ted Cruz, definitely Cruz is not really

not a legal mess up here.

But I'm not, I mean,

there's a lot of scholars who go back and forth on this.

You're not alone.

And I'm looking at it, but this is where I come back to, because in Section 230, there is this section that says basically, if someone posts something on Facebook, you can't be sued for what they posted, which I think is generally speaking

a good protection for these companies.

It would be impossible.

This is the opposite of what France has.

But the second part of it is civil liability.

And we talk a lot about them being able to moderate content and it changes their,

maybe they should be able to be sued or they should not be able to sue or to moderate content.

Section two of that particular part of Section 230 basically says Facebook or one of these companies cannot be held liable on account of any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing.

That's pretty

pretty clear.

That's pretty clear.

But listen to this term or otherwise objectionable.

So anything they object to in any context, that's basically what that says, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected.

So

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Okay, so here's where I think it should fall.

I think these companies should be able to run their company.

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My problem is that it is used as a political tool and especially by the government.

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You know, it's why I looked at it.

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We welcome to the program now Tulsi Gabbard, the author of For Love of Country, which really

took on a whole new meaning, Tulsi, yesterday when you endorsed Donald Trump.

Welcome.

Yes.

Good morning, Glenn.

It's great to be with you.

Yeah.

Did you realize how much you look like Wonder Woman?

I'm just throwing that out there.

Hey, I'll take that compliment any day of the week.

So tell me

why it is so important for you to now take the step that will make you even less popular with people on the left

and put a target on your back, honestly,

because they think he is absolute Hitler.

Why are you joining the campaign?

I mean, the title of my book says it all.

It is truly for love of country and because I know firsthand what's at stake in this election.

You know, so often we have elections that are kind of reduced to partisan differences of, well, you know, Democrats think this and Republicans think that.

But this election is very different.

It's much bigger than one party versus another.

What's at stake here is freedom and the fact that we have a candidate in Donald Trump who believes in freedom and the Constitution and who,

and I've had personal conversations with him, who understands the costs of war and the seriousness of the fact that because of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, we are closer to the brink of nuclear war now than ever before.

That's a serious issue that he looks forward to as president, commander-in-chief, to taking on and walking us back from the brink of war.

And you contrast that with Kamala Harris, who

in so many ways over the last three and a half years has shown that she will not hesitate to undermine our freedoms.

We just saw Mark Zuckerberg come out publicly and say, yeah, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris essentially bullied Facebook into censoring Americans' free speech.

We've seen the political retaliation against Donald Trump.

We've seen the political retaliation against the free speech of everyday Americans.

And I'm the most recent target for the Kamala Harris administration for criticizing Kamala Harris.

They put me on a secret domestic terror watch list, which I'm told is still operational and still going on.

And on the issue of war and peace, which doesn't get talked about often enough in these presidential elections, but really is core to our ability to live in a free and peaceful and prosperous society.

Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have gotten us embroiled in multiple wars in different parts of the world.

And it is directly because of their foreign policy that we sit here one spark away from nuclear war.

So

were you shocked?

Because I was shocked.

It was almost like part of her acceptance speech at the convention was written by John Bolton.

She was,

I mean, she sounded like an absolute hawk, like Lindsey Graham when it comes to war.

Did you feel that way?

I did.

I did very much so.

But it didn't surprise me because

it was just another proof point showing that

Joe Biden hasn't been calling the shots and making decisions over the last three and a half years.

If Kamal Harris is elected president, neither will she.

She is the latest figurehead for the military-industrial complex, the deep state national security state, all of those who derive the mainstream propaganda media, those who derive power or profit from us being in a constant state of war wrote those talking points and that script that was fed into that teleprompter and Kamala Harris declared it loud and proud.

So we know exactly who she'll be working for, not for the American people, not for our national security, nor, quite frankly, does she care one iota about those of us who wear the uniform and those who serve.

And this was very

compelling, especially yesterday that I made this announcement on the third anniversary of the Abbey Gate bombing and Harrison Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.

So who is running the country?

And I saw, who was it, some Hollywood celebrity today came out and said, it doesn't matter if she doesn't give an interview and it doesn't matter if she doesn't articulate her platform.

She just has to win.

And I thought, you know,

that is voting for an oligarchy.

Because we don't know who's running the country right now.

It's obviously somebody or a group of people.

They have an agenda.

None of us have voted for those people.

We don't even know who it is.

We're an oligarchy.

That's exactly right.

And

this is important for voters to recognize.

And, you know, the more these Hollywood celebrities and other people say those kinds of things, it just reinforces that fact.

and also the fact that they think that we as voters are so stupid as to fall for it, to fall for the lie, the facade that

they are creating.

Yes, it is Tony Blinken who has turned the State Department, which is supposed to be the department that's responsible for diplomacy and preventing war, into what is essentially a war department.

And we see Jake Sullivan,

who's the National Security Advisor in the White House.

And we see people like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton who are still calling the shots, and many others whose faces and names will not be on the front page or on your television anytime soon, both in the government as well as outside of the government in the military-industrial complex,

who

they are part of this.

They are of this cabal of

neocon elitist warmongers who will put their power and their profits ahead of people every day of the week.

Let me play a couple of things for you because Donald Trump,

I think, would be wise to have you in his Department of Defense, and there is a lot of work to do.

Here's Susan Rice in 2016 on

the imperatives of national security.

A diverse national security workforce enables us to unlock all of our nation's talent.

There are some 320 million people in the United States.

Nearly 40% are minorities.

And an increasing number of them are earning college and graduate degrees.

As America becomes more diverse, so too do our best people.

The next Colin Powell, or Madeline Albright, or Bill Richardson.

Stop.

She goes on for, I don't want to waste your time.

She goes on and she says in that, inclusion is a national security imperative.

Now I want you to listen to the lieutenant colonel,

who is a man

posing as a woman who is with Space Force.

Listen to this.

So inclusion is a national security imperative.

We fight today and we are going to fight in the future using brain power.

And if that brain who's going to revolutionize the way we fight in space, we fight in cyber, just happens to be in a trans body, you should want them all serving alongside me.

And for your organizations, it's the same way.

Those perspectives that we get from a diverse set of individuals, it's been talked about on stage a lot regarding the science behind high-performing teams.

We need those perspectives.

But it's inclusion that actually drives that.

Because you can bring people in, and if they don't feel safe to speak up, if they don't feel safe to bring their full selves to work, you're not going to get the value of the diversity.

So, Tulsi,

the kind of inclusion that I look for, and I think most Americans are for is diversity of thought.

Somebody at the table who has the guts to say, General, Mr.

President, please do not do that, and here's why.

We are focused on all the wrong kind of inclusion that means nothing to people.

Where does this fit on a priority list for you?

Well the fact that they care more about

the color of your skin or how you identify or your sexuality than they do about your capability and what you bring to the table in service to our country is really indicative of their entire philosophy of their identity politics.

And it's put our country in a dangerous place.

I've served now in the Army for over 21 years, and I can tell you, having people surrounding myself with people in different positions, I started as a private, I'm now a lieutenant colonel.

I tell my soldiers now I'm a battalion commander, I tell them, if you disagree with my plan or my position, I want you to tell me that you disagree and tell me why, because you may have a better idea.

That's exactly what we should be looking for, that diversity of of thought, that environment that is inclusive of people who have

a different way of doing things, so that we can come up with the best plan, the best course of action, the best outcome.

And that's true of the military and every agency across the government.

That, to me, is what real leadership is about.

And that is essential that that changes another one of the many reasons why it's important that Donald Trump wins this election.

So, a couple of other questions, and I'll let you go.

You debated

Kamala and you pretty much wiped the floor with her.

What advice are you giving to Donald Trump, if any?

And what do you think about the

attempt to change the rules now by Kamala in the debate?

Yeah, you know, Donald Trump is not a politician.

I think that's what a lot of people really, really love about him.

And so it wouldn't surprise you to know, Glenn, that he doesn't do debate prep like a typical politician would.

But it's been great to be able to spend some time with him and his team.

Really, for me, if there's anything that I can help with at all, it is just the fact that I've shared a stage with Kamala Harris.

I know how she thinks and how she is going to

how she's going to try to lay some traps, try to bait Donald Trump into

walking into the narrative that she's going to try to push for the American American people.

And quite frankly,

how she will try to hide her record.

That to me is the biggest thing.

She says one thing that is directly opposite to what her record shows.

And so this really will be an opportunity for Donald Trump to expose that to the American people.

And to your second question about, you know, Kamala Harris is trying to change the rules here now less than two weeks before the debate, I think it points to that fact, points to her weakness that the American people need to see.

She's demanding that the debate be seated and that she be allowed to bring in notes into the debate.

Why does she need notes?

If she knows the issues, if she knows her stands on the most important policies and the challenges the American people are facing today, why does she need notes?

Well, we know why.

It goes back to the thing we started our conversation with.

It's because she needs someone else to tell her what to say.

Yep.

Okay, last question.

Yesterday I had RFK Jr.

on at this time, and conservatives like me, people who have been waiting for people to wake up and see the insanity in the country, are excited because you're now campaigning for Donald Trump.

RFK is campaigning for Donald Trump.

And it seems like there are people waking up to see this This party that says that they are protecting democracy is the furthest furthest thing from

defenders of democracy.

Do you see people waking up?

Have you experienced,

you think it's happening or are we being too hopeful?

No, it is.

And this is, I'll give you just two brief anecdotes that happened within the last 24 hours.

I landed in an airport late last night at about 11 o'clock at night, was walking off the plane, and a guy named Jake walked up to me and said, Hey, you know, I really appreciate what you did today.

And he talked about his family.

His family comes from a long line of traditional Democrat, you know, construction union, hardworking American families.

They have voted Democrat almost their entire lives.

And it is not until just recently, just over these past few days, that they have, he got calls from his dad yesterday after I made my announcement.

He said, wait, hold on a second.

What's going on here?

I need to pay closer attention to this and rethink the way that I thought I was going to vote.

Second story, there's a teacher at a small private school who I met during my campaign for the presidency in 2020, follows me on Instagram.

He talks about real education, not the broken education system, but he has always voted for a third-party candidate.

He voted for me, but he had voted for third-party candidates, and that's what he was going to do.

And his statement yesterday to me and on his Instagram was, hey, I think we need to rethink things.

If Bobby Kennedy and Pulsey Gabbard and other common sense-minded Americans who we support are now endorsing Donald Trump,

he's like, I need to check myself.

I need to look in the mirror and say, what am I doing to actually make a difference rather than just make a statement?

That is fantastic news.

Tulsi, thank you for everything.

And I'll see you Friday and Saturday, right?

For the Barge for Children.

Yes, I will see you there.

I look forward to it, Glad.

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Well, a couple of things.

First of all, you know, listening to Tulsi, I thought of Winston Churchill when he said, trust the Americans.

They'll get it right, but only after every other alternative is exhausted.

Thomas Jefferson said, trust Americans.

They may may get it wrong, but eventually they'll get it right.

Maybe we have gone through enough pain.

I hope.

I hope.

I've wondered for 25 years, what is our bottom?

You know, some people who are alcoholics, their bottom is death.

Mine wasn't, thank God.

And so I lived and changed my life.

Have we reached the bottom,

at least with enough people to make this change?

change, or enough people seeing what's going on.

I tell you, if you're not following what's going on in Europe on

especially X,

you have no idea.

Every time I see something from Germany, Austria, England, France, especially the Netherlands.

Every time I see something coming out of there with these riots and everything else, it is what we're going to turn into.

It is our future if we don't turn around now.

And hopefully, we're going to get it right this time.

And there will be enough of us, and hopefully, there will be enough of us that it will be a commanding victory, because that's really what we need, a commanding victory.

And that's only going to happen if every single person comes out that has thought, you know, I'm going to support Donald Trump.

If every single person comes out and actually votes, I don't care where you are in the country.

You can be in the deepest red or deepest blue state.

You have got to vote.

Get your neighbors to vote.

Take them

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He's also the guy, I think, that helped get Benjamin Netanyahu re-elected in 2020 as the Prime Minister of Israel.

We welcome to the program Corey Lewandowski.

Hi, Corey.

How are you?

I'm great.

Thanks for that warm introduction.

Yeah, well,

I want to talk to you about a couple of things.

First of all, I think this is just manna from heaven with Tulsi Gabbard and RFK.

They're trying to make it look like it's no big deal.

I think it's the opening of a door to have

Reagan Democrats go, wait a minute, I should rethink things.

What is your internal polling saying about this?

So Tulsi just endorsed yesterday, and by the way, to

amazing applause.

And the event on Friday with Bobby Kennedy in Grandale, Arizona was incredible.

I mean, Donald Trump has brought a lot of people onto the stage.

I've been to a lot of those rallies.

I've never heard an applause for somebody else on the stage other than Donald Trump to the level that Bobby Kennedy got.

So, you know, what we're seeing across the board is particularly in the battleground states where he was getting anywhere from 3 to 5 percent, those numbers are already moving towards us because there is a huge percentage of the population that feels that the government mandated that they get vaccines in order to keep their jobs.

And Bobby's going to be out talking about that.

And Tulsi, remember, she ran for president just four short years ago.

And she has now said the Democratic Party has left her.

And she brings a very compelling message.

Her National Guard service, her tenure in Congress, she's now fully on the Trump team and is going to continue to bring those moderate women who we need to make sure we are talking to for our success.

Yeah,

I think he has two very strong advocates now.

And, you know, I even find RFK Jr.

interesting.

He's got a lot of things things I don't like,

but even his stance on the deep state.

I mean, you know, with his heritage of his uncle and his father,

I think he could find the bodies that are buried.

He'll be able to perhaps even just give advice on where to look in the deep state to cut this head off.

Well, that's exactly right.

And look, if this would have been a fair system, he would have been able to challenge Joe Biden as a Democrat and probably would have beat him.

But it's not a fair system, and he knows that.

And so instead, he had to go and run as an independent, do all the things that was required, and was still on the ballot in a number of places.

But he is angry about the way he's been treated.

And instead of having an opportunity to bring his ideas to the American people, they've coronated Kamala Harris to go and take this mantle, the furthest left mantle we've ever seen by a mainstream candidate in American history, and her running mate.

And now Bobby Kennedy Jr.

has an opportunity to use the microphone of the Trump campaign to go out and talk about how broken the system really is, what they've done to him, and why he's joining this team.

So I was just talking to Tulsi just a few minutes ago, and I said, you know, I'm hearing people say, I don't care if she doesn't have any policies or she does any interviews.

She just has to be elected.

Well, that's voting for a machine.

That's voting for an oligarchy.

You're voting for people you didn't vote for and you don't know what they're really going to do.

Is she going to be able to get away with either just really softball interviews or no interviews

and no policy being stated?

Well, it sure looks like that, Glenn.

I mean, look, she was, you know, on the 8th of this month, she said she hoped to be able to sit down for an interview by the end of the month.

We're running out of days.

She's now going to sit down with her running mate to some outlet, which I'm sure is going to give her her the questions ahead of time, just like they gave Hillary Clinton the questions ahead of time during the debate.

And then she's going to come across as a person who has continuously changed their positions.

She's changing her position that we know of from when she ran four years ago, and she's changing her position from when she was simply the vice president of the United States in the last week.

And we haven't heard from her.

Yeah, she isn't changing her positions.

Her staff is saying she's changed.

The latest is she's all for the border wall now.

What?

Come on.

Nobody crazy believes that.

Nobody honestly believes her idea was no tax on tips, right?

Nobody believes she's actually for the border wall.

Nobody believes that she doesn't think Biden economics is what the process is going forward.

People do believe, and they should, that she wants to have price controls.

She's a Marxist on a good day.

And

the problem is the media has covered for her, just like they covered for Joe Biden's cognitive decline until the American people saw it with their own eyes when he went on that debate stage.

And they're going to see it with Kamala when she has to debate Donald Trump.

Look, Glenn, you know this.

She wants to sit down for the debates.

She wants to bring notes to the debates.

She wants to have a hot mic on the debate so she can say, I'm speaking.

Let me finish, Mr.

Trump, which is the business that she told last time she was running for office.

We've already agreed to the rules of the debate.

She won't do a Fox News debate.

She wants to change all the rules here because she's afraid to debate Donald Trump.

Will there be a debate on ABC September 10th?

Well, look, I sure hope there is, and I think the president wants to do that.

But, you know, Glenn, your listeners are so smart.

They saw what Jonathan Carl did this weekend as he was talking to Senator Tom Cotton.

It was crazy.

Just for her policies.

And by the way, Tom Cotton was amazing.

He said, how do you know?

And Jonathan Carl was caught flat-footed because this left-wing mainstream media cabal continues to be in the tank for her, and they're continuing to defend her policies when they don't even know what they are, but what they want them to be.

Yeah.

So Donald Trump, though, tweeted, you know, on, I think it was X,

Why would I do the debate against Kamala Harris on that network after, you know, lightweight reporter Jonathan Carl and his ridiculous, biased interview with Tom Cotton?

He makes a good point.

He absolutely makes a good point.

But listen, I think what we know is Donald Trump has always been the underdog going into these debates.

We saw with Hillary Clinton when they told us she was the greatest debater.

We saw it in the Republican primaries back in 15 and 2016.

We saw it against Joe Biden, who's been the senior statesman for 50 years.

Donald Trump has demolished all of these people.

He has been preparing for a debate his entire life.

And here's the difference, Glenn, and no one's giving Donald Trump credit.

He's out talking about substantive policy issues.

I was with him at the border last week as we heard from the families who were victims of illegal immigration.

Some assume, some say, 20 million people have come into this country under the Biden-Harris administration, 10 million that we know of, and then the 10 million gotaways.

When you think about that, I mean, it's incredible.

Donald Trump has a plan.

He's laid out what that plan is, and now all of a sudden, Kamala Harris's, not her, but her staff, is saying she's for the border wall.

Well, when were you for it before you were against it?

Right.

It's absolutely nuts.

I have to tell you, listening to Donald Trump talk to Elon Musk,

you know, anybody who is honest that listened to that,

that man is up on everything.

He can talk about, I mean, talking to Elon Musk is hard enough, but when Elon Musk starts to talk about technology or other things, he followed him and participated in the conversation really intelligently on every single topic

Elon was bringing up.

It was quite amazing, impressive.

It is.

But the other thing, Glenn, is when it comes to sports, Donald Trump understands what's going on with the NFL, with you know, with

obviously

anything that goes on in Dana White's world.

Donald Trump can recite chapter and verse of who the fighters are, where they're from, what their record is, and what their special move is.

I mean, he's done that in the boxing world for years.

This is what people don't understand about Donald Trump.

He's an everyday guy who loves to watch sports, loves to watch golf, loves to go out and have fun, right?

They portray him very differently.

And now, what is the media saying?

His age is a factor.

Donald Trump has been in seven states in the last four days

and Kamala Harris and Tim Walls are still hiding in their basement.

Yeah.

Was it your strategy to have Trump start to do things like UFC Unfiltered and the All-In podcast and Logan Paul, Sean Ryan.

I saw him on Theo Vaughan,

and that was a completely different interview.

It went to what you were talking about at sports as well.

I mean, this is a great strategy.

Is that yours or when did we change that?

That's really good.

I will say this, Glenn, everything is Donald Trump's idea, right?

And we just help implement it.

But the truth is, he's the best in those scenarios.

When he's talking in those long formats and people can understand what he's actually saying and not being obligated to listen to the mainstream media seven-second snippet that they want to attack him on, this is where he's the best.

And by the way, you know, we did a rally in Glendale, Arizona the other day.

We live streamed it on TikTok and on a couple other applications.

20 million likes.

Think about that.

During one rally.

So we're bypassing most of the mainstream media these days because they don't want to cover Donald Trump's rallies anymore.

So we're going directly to the American people and we are seeing just an enormous response when he's out giving those rallies and people are having the opportunity to watch it online.

Well,

I'm glad you're with the campaign and

best of luck to you.

We have to win this and we are all in.

And I

hope more Democrats wake up and even start to confess my party is corrupt.

I thought it stood for something and it doesn't.

And quite honestly, when I saw yesterday that, you know, you had 200 people from Bush, McCain, and Romney, you know, I guess the people who did the photocopies, all come out and endorse Harris for president,

I thought it was sad because, you know, you'd like every vote, but

it just shows you this progressive gene is in the Republicans and in the Democrats, and America's done with it.

I really think it's done with it.

I do too.

And listen, we do want every vote, but I want every guy who's been subjected to the terrible policies of the Biden administration and the Harris administration to remember that when they go to the ballot 10 weeks from today.

I want everybody whose family has been impacted by illegal aliens or the fentanyl crisis to remember it because that's on their watch.

I want everybody to remember that, you know what, Donald Trump cares about everybody equally.

And when he was in office, we had the best economy this world has ever seen.

We had a strong national defense.

Our enemies around the world feared us, and our allies respected us.

And all of that has gone away.

So if you want safety and security for your family, 10 weeks from today, 70 days exactly, is Election Day.

Get out and vote and make a brighter future for this country because our best days are still in front of us with Donald Trump in the White House.

Gory, thank you very much.

Appreciate it.

I'm going to be with the president this weekend on Friday night

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So thank you, Corey.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

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Stu, you're going to give us an update in just a few minutes.

Yeah, going on on the RFK Jr.

endorsement and what it means,

looking at the polls and everything behind that sort of curtain, there's a lot there.

I feel like the left is trying to make it seem like it's absolutely no impact at all.

There are some on the right that are super excited about it, understandably, but also maybe overstating what it's going to do in the race.

I think it's an interesting thing to look at, though.

Well, I tell you, you know, you have Chris Cuomo coming out, and I don't think he has much of an impact, but for the five people that are watching him,

he came out at the convention on the floor calling the Democrats just absolute hypocrites.

Jon Stewart, can we play the Jon Stewart clip of what he said about the DNC?

They had a guy yelling, screw the billionaires, followed immediately by a very happy billionaire.

It's all okay if it's our billionaire.

They had guys making fun of people for going to Yale

and a bunch of people who went to Yale.

The Democrats had people who prosecuted sexual predators and

he shows a picture of Bill Clinton.

Oops.

Wow.

Well, that's quite remarkable.

So you have those two.

And then I don't know if you've seen online.

How much time do I have here, Sarah?

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I have 60 seconds.

Let me just play a little bit of it.

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I just got back from the DNC where I signed up to volunteer.

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So several times Bill Maher has called out Kamala for not doing interviews

and he particularly pointed out she needs to do interviews with people who are, quote, more centrist like me.

She needs to win his audience over.

Well, Quentin Tarantino was on, and he says, actually doing interviews is a really good thing.

Can we play cut seven here real quick?

It's amazing.

I think they're just all about winning the f ⁇ ing election, all right?

And then the easiest path to winning the election.

Look, you can talk about maybe she should have had more guts about this or that and the other, but we're the f ⁇ ing president.

Right.

And Trump's not the president and we're the f ⁇ ing president and now it's going to be about this.

But this is about winning.

What most people don't give the Democrats enough credit for, all right, but we give the Republicans credit for.

It's like, no, sometimes it's just about f ⁇ ing winning.

And it doesn't matter how we look at this moment.

It's about f ⁇ ing winning.

Right.

This is about

winning.

Yep.

Okay, we got it.

We got it.

We got it.

That is fantastic.

So what is he saying?

She doesn't, he was defending that she doesn't have any policy points out and that she hasn't done any interviews.

He is pushing for a machine.

He's saying the machine is already in.

It's already running.

She doesn't matter.

So just win.

That is a little terrifying.

And I think people are starting to wake up to it, as evidenced by RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, and others that are starting to say, I'm questioning questioning

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is all of this making any difference at all

looking at the polls?

Well, it's still too early to tell, right?

All this stuff just happened.

The RFK endorsement, the Tulsi endorsement, the Democratic National Convention is going on.

You know, the poll bounce, I should say, is still going to be going on.

You'd expect...

Every time you have a convention, you have a bounce in most circumstances.

It's usually two to three points.

You'd expect that to kind of kick in this week.

So the polling should be very good for Kamala Harris this week if historical patterns sort of follow the norms.

In this election, it's always difficult to say that something's going to follow the norms, but that is what we would expect in this situation.

Right.

Now, I've talked to a lot of people who are

looking for, hoping for Trump to win here.

And I've sensed, I don't know if you sensed this, Glenn, a lot of pessimism.

lately over the past week or two, like

walking very close to the edge of the cliff, considering jumping off, but maybe not quite have taken the leap yet.

I think everybody is in that position on both sides.

I think both sides have good days and bad days where you're like, we're going to win.

The next day you're like, good heavens, where there's no way we can win.

I think everybody's feeling that way.

Yeah, and I felt it was like universal confidence for most on the right when Biden was the nominee.

And now we're into the point of the opposite, into universal pessimism now that Kamala's the nominee, which is incredible.

But you should look back at Kamala's history a little bit.

I think people forget the 2019 campaign and think Kamala Harris just failed.

And it was a different kind of failure than most other failures, if you will.

When she launched her campaign, this is the period we're in now.

When she launched her campaign in 2019, she literally rocketed all the way to the top of the gambling markets for Democratic nominee.

Her launch was really good in 2019.

It was really positive.

She had a well-attended speech.

People were going crazy.

She got all sorts of

incredible media attention around that time.

And she actually went ahead of Bernie.

She went ahead of Biden and went into first place

in the betting markets.

Do you remember what I said about her?

The first time I saw her

on the campaign trail,

she was doing something, I don't remember,

and she was giving an interview.

And I came in and I said, I think I'm concerned about her.

Yeah, I know.

She's relatable.

She seems nice.

Now, all of that that stuff has been disproven.

But it was, again, that feeling that she gave everybody at the speech, that if that's the snapshot you get of her, you're like, I like her.

Yeah.

And I think, you know, we talked about this at the time and were mocked by some for that.

And, you know, of course, she wound up being vice president of the United States.

We were talking about her in sort of a long shot capacity.

Who's the person outside of the major features who could make a run at this?

And she did make a run.

She actually made a second run during the campaign during one of the debates.

Now, remember, we're all looking at this debate coming up and saying, oh, well, Donald Trump's going to crush her.

Well, she has had

minimal but existing success at debates.

When she went up against Joe Biden, she did the very pre-planned story.

Again, brought herself to script.

That's what her goal is always in these moments, to take herself from an off-script moment, but bring herself back to script.

And she was able to do a scripted moment where she basically called Joe Biden a big fat racist.

And that was successful.

And she actually, once again, for the second time during the campaign cycle, went up to first place in the betting markets.

I believe she was second or third in the actual polls at that point.

And that is a significant thing.

The point I make,

the reason I make that point is because she also then collapsed in both circumstances, took a lead that she had been given and squandered it into miserable failure.

And then she didn't even make it to iowa so that that is that that though came from time

yep and the time

is something that we don't have yes this that happened in about three months which is about what we had from the very beginning of this campaign one way to look at this campaign if you kind of want to look at it now and you're saying okay well she's Sure, she was able to avoid some interviews at the beginning.

She's now been able to avoid about a third of the campaign doing any interviews or presenting any policies.

It's a 15-week campaign for her, and she's through five.

And we should note, she said, when finally asked briefly on the runway whether she would ever do an interview, she said she would schedule one by the end of the month.

Well, it's August 27th, okay?

We have nothing on the schedule.

Also, she didn't promise to do one in August.

She just said she would schedule one in August.

So it's very possible she schedules an interview for the year 2038, and we never actually know.

Well, if she does do an interview um

you know it's probably going to be a softball interview anyway but it will make the longer she waits the more important that interview is right but i mean if if i were her in her campaign and did not care about the country in fact probably wanted to destroy it i would i would recommend her doing something like rachel maddow who will present who will come up with a mod a modestly intellectual

interview that is incredibly tilted in her favor to present her with every opportunity not to make a mistake.

And while a lot of people would mock her for doing that, you know, the media doesn't seem to care about it much at all, although maybe some of the pressure is increasing.

Axios had an interesting story on this front today.

But when it comes to

the state of the race, and I do a podcast, by the way, called State of the Race.

It's available on the Studos America feed, wherever you get your audio podcast.

And we update this a couple times a week with, you know, sort of larger, in-depth looks at this type of stuff.

But if you look back back at June, mid-June, okay, this is before the debate, Donald Trump is at 44.6% in the polls.

Currently, he is at 44.4% in the polls.

So there has been almost no change at all from before the debates to right now when it comes to the support level for Donald Trump.

What has changed here is

Kamala Harris, who went,

it was actually Joe Biden back in mid-June, of course, but has gone from basically 42 to 47.

So at the time, Donald Trump's got about a two-point lead over Biden.

Now he trails by about three points, two and a half, to Kamala.

Still all of it in the margin of error.

We're all in the margin of error on both sides.

That is important to point out, Glenn.

But

where does this 5% come from?

Largely, it came from RFK.

What you have is a situation where a decent amount, about about 5% of people who would typically vote for Biden, were over to the RFK side of things because they looked at Biden as embarrassing and unpalatable.

Like they just, they're normally left-wing type voters.

They looked at Biden just like, this is, I can't justify this.

This is insane.

He can't even speak.

He can't walk.

They were in that category.

And what happened with the Harris change is that

that Biden problem that was somewhat unique to Biden was cured by Harris.

The people who were RFK supporters that were Democrat-leaning largely left RFK and went over to Harris.

That caused

RFK's percentages to go from about 10% to about 5%.

That was basically the loss there.

And one of the reasons why RFK looked at the polls and said, okay, like we're going the wrong direction here.

Let's look at a different approach to still make a difference.

And that's when he started calling around and wound up talking to Donald Trump and makes this endorsement.

Now, when you look at that problem where that is solved for Democrats, it still existed for Republicans.

Before Harris steps into the race, RFK Jr.

is typically hurting Biden more than he's hurting Trump.

When Harris steps in, that reverses.

And it winds up being much more significant to Donald Trump than it was to Kamala Harris.

The Harris people who were thinking about Harris went to Harris when she's dropped into the race, where that was not the case with Biden.

So you have this situation where RFK now presents an almost unique risk to Trump rather than to Biden.

RFK Jr.

talked about that in his speech and talked about it in the interview a little bit with you yesterday.

He became something that was not hurting both sides equally, or as it was earlier in the campaign where he was hurting Biden more, he became a candidate that was hurting Trump a lot more.

Now, when you go through this, and I went went through a few dozen polls from the Biden era and the Harris era to try to look at the effects there, and we did see that play out,

where about 65% of the voters that were in the RFK people

category were Trump-leaning voters, and only about 30 to 35%

of those people were Kamala voters.

There's also a contingency of people who are going to vote third party or maybe not vote at all.

You kind of throw them out for the time being.

For this exercise, it was about two to one when it comes to Trump voters versus Kamala voters.

When you go through all of that and break it all down, it looks to be a little bit over a point between 1.2 and 1.5%

movement toward Donald Trump here.

And you might look at that and say, well, that's not that big of a deal, right?

1.2, 1.5 points.

In a race.

In a race race.

In a race, exactly, Glenn.

In a race like this, that is massive.

It's almost impossible to move move a race like this

by that without Google.

Without Google, without some major development, right?

Like, and this is, I would say, on the category of a major development.

Some people are trying to demean it.

You know, other people have tried to run the same analysis.

Nate Silver ran a similar analysis.

You know, he's writing a much more, you know, much more, I'm sure, high-level analysis than I am with my stupid Excel sheet, but he came up with about 0.6 points of effect.

But even 0.6 points is a massive, massive difference in a race like this.

And if you think about the way this race is unfolded, you have a situation where Donald, Joe Biden went through about five of the worst weeks humanly possible for a campaign, right?

He had the horrible debate performance.

His opponent was had charges against him dropped.

We forget that that occurred.

It was almost like not even a factor.

His opponent had an assassination attempt against him.

He had terrible interviews, terrible press conferences.

I mean, it was as bad as it could possibly be.

When that was over, followed by a great convention.

Followed by a great convention by the Republicans.

When all of that was over, Donald Trump led the national polls by about three points.

Three points.

That was at three points.

After all that, Kamala Harris comes in.

She's named the nominee.

She has five of the best weeks possible for any campaign.

Every single piece of media that comes out about her is positive over and over again.

She's treated as the new Rosa Parks.

She is the queen of all of the world.

They have this big convention.

It arguably goes pretty well.

She gives a speech that was well received.

All of that happens.

And now she, in polling averages, leads by about three points.

The entire range of outcomes for this election is probably something like Trump plus four to Trump minus four.

Maybe there's a little more on the margins of that, but not much.

And so when you can move one point of voters in an election like that, that is a massive, massive difference.

And that's why it is a big deal for

the RFK Jr.

endorsement.

People are trying to downplay it on the left, but I don't think that's wise.

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So

one of the things that I'm interested in to see if this gathers any steam.

You know, I think if you can get,

I mean, Elon Musk, RFK,

Tulsi Gabbard,

That's huge.

Everybody's playing down the Elon Musk thing.

I don't know.

I think that affects people.

With Elon Musk coming out and saying the things that he has said, you know, people look at him.

I mean, you know, the left is trying to destroy him.

And yet he went up and said, by the way, I can go rescue the astronauts up in space because Boeing blew it.

I mean, he's an amazing guy.

You know, I thought about this.

Is there anything that you wouldn't buy from Elon Musk that you wouldn't think that's probably better than anything else?

I mean, he just has this reputation of getting it done,

being completely different,

and breaking all the rules.

That's the American spirit.

And for everybody to dismiss the fact that he now has endorsed Donald Trump and he's not a guy on the right,

I just think that has to break through to some independents that haven't decided who they're going to vote for yet.

I think so, too.

I think that one's important.

I think that's another one that's been helpful.

to Trump.

I mean, you think about the kind of the Joe Rogan audience, right?

Yeah.

Who is massive?

It's a massive, massive audience, but looking, people who are looking for independence, not necessarily in the typical, you know, red, blue sort of context.

they don't exist there they're looking for a third way and you know someone like elon musk has a lot of influence i think in that world as does rogan obviously

is did rogan endorse he did not no um okay i didn't think so but i mean if you look at like that crew right like the i mean if include rogan um sort of on the outside of that but like the that sort of silicon valley tech Yeah group that I think often had these sorts of beliefs.

I mean, Peter Thiel was the only one that was outspoken about it, but like a lot of them believed in free markets and wanting business to be able to innovate and want that type of leadership, but were afraid, literally afraid to say it for a long time.

That has changed, and that is a really positive development for Donald Trump.

Yeah, except it makes the polling where you can't say, well, I think there's a lot of closeted Donald Trump supporters,

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Yesterday, Donald Trump showed showed up to honor the fallen veterans, the 13 fallen heroes from Abbey Gate in the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal.

And here is CNN's Jim Acosta.

Listen to this.

Jump to the campaign a little bit.

This morning, former President Trump was at Arlington National Cemetery, where he marked the three-year anniversary of the bombing that killed 13 service members during the Afghanistan withdrawal.

This is someone who, according to his own own former chief of staff, said Americans who died in war are, quote, suckers and losers.

Trump denies that, although John Kelly confirms that Trump did say that.

He more recently said a civilian award is, quote, better than the Medal of Honor.

You're a former Army Ranger.

Is he politicizing these soldiers' deaths?

Should he even be at Arlington National Cemetery if he's going to make some politics out of this?

Stop.

Unbelievable.

Should he even be in Arlington?

If you don't know how Donald Trump feels about the military, you're not paying attention at all.

And if I hear that, you know, suckers and losers thing one more time.

One guy, Donald Trump has like 30 people that were there that all say that never happened.

It never happened.

And I saw an interview with him the other day and he's like, why would anyone say that?

Why?

Even if you believed it why would you say that he's like this just it makes no sense

meanwhile the debate about the debate is happening in fact uh kamala her campaign altered video of donald trump in a very unique way listen to this why not debater no way

but because they already know everything They say, oh, Trump's, you know, not doing the debate.

That's the same thing they say now.

I mean, right now I say, why should I do a debate?

I'm leading in the polls.

And

everybody knows.

This is

unbelievable.

They are calling him chicken.

Are you kidding me?

That is exactly what Joe Biden said right before Donald Trump cleaned the floor with him.

Yeah, when he said, he said, go ahead and make my day.

Let's even do it twice.

And they didn't do it twice because He was defeated so soundly by Donald Trump that he had to end his entire political career other than holding on to the presidency for multiple months, which is another story.

But I mean, that is a like the audacity of them to actually act like he's chicken.

And if I got, if I could get any message to the Trump campaign, it would be this.

When she calls you

chicken, say, here's how chicken I am.

I will do a debate with you every single week until the election on any network of your choosing with any

moderators of your choosing.

Like, he should be so blatant.

Make her get in front of the American people and answer questions.

This is what you need to be able to do.

And I'm not sure what the strategy is here.

I know the rules are important.

There's a lot to consider here, but like get her in front of the American people in a position where she's not scripted.

Please, Lord God, let this occur.

Here's a new anti-Kamala ad, got 29.

Everyday prices are too high.

Food, rent, gas,

to school clothes.

That is called Bidenomics.

A loaf bread cost 50% more today.

Brown beef is up almost 50%.

There's not much left at the end of the month.

Bidenomics is working.

The price of housing has gone up.

It feels so hard to just be able to get ahead.

And we are very proud of Bidenomics.

That's a good ad.

I mean, it's unbelievable.

I mean, you know, two different people.

Yeah, we pointed out

on this podcast today.

The latest is that

she's for building the border wall.

Come on.

Here she is, a flashback

back way back in April of this year,

responding to Donald Trump repealing DEI.

Listen to this.

On a different front, Axios this week reported that President Trump, if he thinks he gets a second term, will sort of dial back, for lack of a better term, DEI programs that the Biden administration has put in forth.

I obviously know you disagree with that.

I obviously believe that you don't want him to get a second term.

That said, if that does happen, what do you think that would do to race relations in this country?

Well, let me say we're going to win, so it's not going to happen.

Actually, but I think that

today is actually, I believe,

an anniversary in terms of Dr.

King.

And

I was just in Selma and we celebrated it, well, acknowledged the 59th anniversary of Bloody Sunday.

I think it's really important that we as Americans always embrace our history,

the parts that we're proud of, and the parts that we're not proud of, but that we can't forget.

And

we should all agree that we should teach history, we should learn history, if we're to ever have an accurate idea of where we want to go and where we don't want to go in the future.

Okay, so what the hell is she saying?

This is a response to DEI, cutting DEI.

What is she saying?

We need to learn history.

We have to learn history,

you know, to teach where we want to go and where we don't want to go.

I don't, I agree with that 100%.

I have no problem talking about Bloody Sunday or anything else.

We made a lot of mistakes.

That's not what you're doing with DEI, sweetheart.

Sorry.

And while they're calling Donald Trump a fascist, cut 31

adding to your gun control agenda, Laura?

Yeah, I think it's a great idea.

But I mean, listen, I don't think we lack for great ideas.

As I've said many times, we've been having great ideas for decades.

The problem is that Congress has not had the courage to act.

And that is why, from the beginning, I have said my agenda includes attempting to get Congress to act, but if they don't within the first hundred days of my administration, I'm going to take executive action.

Because what we need is action.

action

so she's talking about taking action within the first hundred days to quote confiscate guns

she'll give the ability to congress to go along with her but if they don't want to go along with her she'll just do it herself but trump is the fascist

uh it's uh i mean she's she's absolutely incredible and just to remind you how you used to feel about her cut 32.

Collective bargaining is about saying, let the collective come together

around a common experience.

Which at its core is about dignity and the dignity of labor.

And then let the people come together to negotiate so you make the balance.

And then the outcome will be fair.

The only problem with that is that's not what collective

bargaining means,

but it was a beautiful, beautiful,

I don't know, limerick or something.

Here's John Curry, John Kirby,

about Joe Biden's vacation.

He just came off of vacation for 10 days in California, and then

he flew right to Delaware where he's going to be on vacation for another 10 days.

Here's John Kirby.

I'm a little confused, John.

I know the president took vacation last week in California after the Democratic Convention.

He's hitting another week to that in Rehoboth, Delaware this week.

How engaged is he in any of this?

He's very engaged, Neil.

I mean, you know, as well as I do, President of the United States, wherever they are, have access to all the communications and all the advisors that they need.

I mean, he was being updated on the attacks over the weekend in real time by his national security team.

He was on the phone with Prime Minister Modi today talking about Ukraine.

And last week, he made several calls to try to make sure that we could get these ceasefire talks off to a good start.

He's watching things very, very closely.

And why should I believe you now?

By the way,

Stu, have you seen the video of the drones hitting the skyscrapers in Russia?

Yeah, I mean, my understanding is

it's unconfirmed exactly what the situation is.

But I mean,

we definitely know know that there are a lot of these types of things going on

in the area.

There was a video that I saw that a drone came up to the side of

a tower, a skyscraper, and

slammed into it and blew up.

And the first thing I thought of was 9-11.

It looked like 9-11 to me.

And I thought, hmm,

you know,

they're using our technology.

They're using our

coordination for all of this.

And

if

somebody was doing that to us,

I think we'd say,

no,

you're not going to do that.

How long

does Russia hold its

action back from us?

You know, the White House announced that

this was wrong.

You know, we're not going to do that.

We're not going to give them more stuff, et cetera, et cetera.

But who at the White House made that decision?

Who?

Do you really think that Joe Biden did?

Who's calling the shots?

Who's minding the store?

And why does nobody care about that?

It's the same reason they don't care about Kamala Harris having a platform or doing an interview because they're comfortable with the machine doing it.

That's not our system.

We elect a president and the president makes those decisions.

We are on the verge of World War III.

It could happen before we go to vote.

Who do you have confidence is making these decisions?

On war?

I don't know.

Stu?

That's a a great question.

Do you have any idea?

You know, I was listening to probably some of the same reporting you were listening to, and it's like, gosh, you know, these are massive decisions.

These are

globe-altering decisions that are being made right now.

Life and death, nuclear decisions.

And I'm sitting, look, I think like most people, looking at this election and thinking, okay, what's going to happen in 2025?

Well, we still got a bunch of time in 2024 where a man is currently president who has absolutely no idea what he's doing.

He was just reporting the other day that he was visibly shaking as he's getting into the car.

God only knows what state he's in.

And who is making these decisions if it's not him?

Is it Anthony Blinken?

I don't know.

I'm very.

Isn't it strange that nobody says it's Kamala Harris?

Nobody.

Who's running the country?

Well, the vice president is.

No, we all know she's not running it either.

She's certainly responsible.

And we can't give her no responsibility.

No responsibility for what she's responsible.

She does deserve, but you're right.

It's not the first impression of people.

And that I think honestly, oddly is helping her in this election right now because people are looking at her as like this sort of disconnected new thing.

They're not looking at her as the person responsible for all the same things they didn't like about Biden.

So, first of all, she's not disconnected.

She violated her oath of office by not invoking the 25th Amendment, not

telling anybody the president is incapacitated.

I mean,

she was the deciding vote on things like the Inflation Reduction Act.

She was proud of Bidenomics.

She was absolutely involved, but she's not the one making the decisions.

And that should bother people.

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And Stu is here getting ready for Stu Does America.

It's happening a little later.

Before that, he's on with Megan Kelly.

I guess trying out for a position.

I'm not really sure.

Anyway, I can get out of this place.

Good luck, Joe.

I'm looking for it.

Always looking for an escape pod.

I know.

What are you talking to Megan about today?

All sorts of stuff.

A lot on the campaign, going into the RFK thing.

We're going to be going into the media and the way they're treating the Kamala Harris situation.

And I keep hearing people say this thing about how she hasn't done an interview in 30, was it 39 days now since she launched the campaign.

And that is true, of course.

You know, she's had bits and pieces of little mini questions here and there, but no interviews since then.

And I was trying to think about, it's really been longer than that, right?

It's not like she did an interview the day before Biden dropped out.

The last actual interview she did was the night of the debate with CNN.

And it was interesting because I watched that interview as it happened.

And I wanted to revisit it.

We're going to revisit it on Studios America tonight.

But, you know, her main thing was damage control.

She's on there saying, well, yeah, yeah, Joe Biden had a bad start, but he had a very strong finish.

And I see him every day.

And he's doing incredible things.

It was her lying about Joe Biden's mental acuity.

That's the last time we saw her in an actual interview.

That's crazy.

That's crazy that right after the debate, she's still shoveling it.

Still shoveling it.

And that's the last time we heard from her.

That was 61 days ago.

Well, we can trust her, though.

Oh, yeah, that's true.

Clearly.

That's true.

Trust her.

Yeah, sure.

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