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Blaze Media national correspondent Julio Rosas joins to share footage of the violent anti-Israel protests that took place outside the DNC. Glenn destroys the leftist belief that going childless will make you happy. Gerald Posner joins to discuss the possible connections between JFK’s assassination and the attempted assassination of President Trump.
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I don't know much how much we pay Julio, but I think we should probably pay him a little more.

He's in Chicago and he was in the crowd yesterday with the protesters.

Julio Rosas, welcome to the program.

Yeah, thanks for having me, Glenn.

You bet.

So what did you experience yesterday?

We're going to roll some of the video that

you had taken yesterday, but what did you experience?

So yesterday was the first official march on the DNC.

This is something that a lot of groups have been planning for months.

They made it very clear that they wanted to disrupt this DNC, or at least try to.

And so they started at a park a couple blocks away from the United Center.

They made their way.

Things were fine.

There wasn't anything crazy happening until they got to a park where the park had the security perimeter fencing that goes all around the United Center, which is where the DNC is being hosted.

And at that point, the police that had been walking alongside them went to the edges of the park.

And so because of that, the crowd had free access to the perimeter fencing.

Probably about 15 minutes, 15, 30 minutes after the crowd arrived at the park, they started to shake and tear down the fence.

And I have to be honest, you know, these aren't people who, it doesn't look like a lot of these people go to the gym, so I didn't think it'd be possible for them to do that because this is a pretty sturdy fencing.

But because it is temporary, they were actually able to tear down multiple sections of the perimeter fence.

And so they were able to get closer to the second fence, which was not nearly as durable as the first.

And they were trying to tear that down.

Police had to come in to prevent them from doing that.

And probably about 30 minutes after people streamed into the breaches, that's when a large contingent of Chicago police came in to force everybody back out.

And there were at least two arrests that took place there.

After people were out,

then even more Chicago police came in to clear everybody from the park because so much damage was done to the perimeter that they needed to secure the area in order to allow people to fix the breaches.

So what are you expecting to happen?

Because when I heard that, you know, they're trying to recreate 1968, which will go very poorly for the Democrats.

And, you know, they had riots on the streets in Chicago and police brutality,

yada, yada, yada.

But the American people saw it and they said, I don't want any part of any of this stuff.

And that could happen again.

Do you think that this has

kind of taught them that there's no way to get in and so they're going to behave?

Or is it going to get worse?

I mean, I think they view it as a victory.

Like I said, the fact that they were able to breach the fence in multiple places is pretty significant.

I think it's going to invigorate some of them to kind of keep doing what they're doing.

And so I think it it remains to be seen what happens.

I think the biggest night for potential disruption and violence is Thursday when Vice President Harris officially accepts the nomination.

Because

they take credit.

I mean, the pro-Palestinian, pro-Camas crowd takes credit for Biden no longer being on the top of the ticket.

They say it's because of their pressure.

That's why he's no longer the nominee, as opposed to his disastrous debate a couple months ago.

So

they definitely have an inflated sense of

ego in terms of what they're able to do and what they've accomplished so far.

So,

you know,

we got the rest of the week.

And I think, you know, Monday, yesterday was

the reason why they were out at noon was because they wanted to really make a big show that they were out there and they don't want their demands to be ignored.

So what time do you go online?

Because

you can watch this on your sub stack, mostly peaceful.live, right?

Yes, yes, that is correct.

Yeah, okay.

So what time are you going back out today?

So there's another protest at the Israeli consulate here in Chicago that's scheduled for 7 p.m.

That one is being organized by a group that is explicitly calling to make this week great, like 1968.

That's kind of their slogan.

And yeah, which is interesting, which is, you know, why would you want to kind of recreate the conditions to where your side gets absolutely beat down by the police?

I wouldn't really look that as a success, but again, at the same time, they kind of view it as they view 1968 as a propaganda win

because

when people talk about 1968, they talk about, oh, how horrible it was for the police to crack down on rioters and everything.

It certainly would have been interesting to have been there for that, but that's because I'm a sick individual when it comes to that.

speaks it but it speaks to it speaks to how even back then they were they used the media to to their advantage to say oh well actually it's their fault not our fault that thinks that on hand um so i so you know looking for for for this week and for later today there there is stuff planned um just because again they want to make sure that this is their time to to crash and ruin the democrats party because they're not listening to them

julio thank you so much stay safe this week will you Yes, thank you.

All right, thank you.

Blaze Media national correspondent

Julio Rosas.

So I don't know if you've seen what the Capital Research Center has put out, but

they have a very narrow definition of extremist.

Extremist groups are only designated extremist groups if they have documented ties or publicly expressed support for terrorism or terrorist groups, ties to or publicly expressed solidarity with hostile foreign governments and/or support for anarchism,

Marxism, or communism.

Okay,

that's the deal.

So how many of those groups are in Chicago right now?

At least 279 extremist groups are now on the streets as part of this coalition to march on the DNC in Chicago.

Separate coalition that is publicly planning disruptions at the convention, several Chicago-based Islamic groups that are also involved in the efforts, but are not officially enlisted in any coalition.

Of the 229 groups involved in the anti-DNC efforts, 162 or 71% qualify as an extremist group.

At At least 147 of the anti-DNC groups have expressed support.

147 of these groups have expressed support for or have ties to terrorist groups or terrorist attacks.

But a handful of those 147 groups have ties to or publicly support Hamas and

or the terrorist attacks on Israel on October 7th.

Hamas-allied and Iran-backed Marxist-Leninist terror groups also on the ground, the Popular Front for Liberation of Palestine.

They have strong direct links to a coalition that is openly planning to replicate the violent 1968 Democratic Convention.

The majority of the identified extremist groups are linked to or have expressed solidarity with at least one of the nine foreign governments hostile to the United States, including Iran, China, Venezuela, Russia, North Korea, Syria, Cuba, Pakistan, and Nicaragua.

The extremist groups also have ties to or express support for 19 foreign terrorist organizations, including Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, the PFLP, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the Islamic Resistance in Iraq, the Lion's Den, the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the Muslim Brotherhood, Jamaat

Islami, the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, Marxist terrorists from Puerto Rico, Islamist terrorists in Sudan, Lashkar-e-Taiba,

Hezbollah Mahajin,

Duktarhan-e-Malat, and the Communist Party of the Philippines, the New People's Party.

The Coalition of March on the

DNC's official statement and website content explicitly supports Hamas and the atrocities committed on October 7th.

A group's official involvement in the coalition is a very strong indication that they are a supporter of

terrorism.

A large portion of the extremist groups have engaged in, endorsed, or attempted to assist acts of violence, property destruction, economic sabotage on the U.S.

soil, and have justifiably described as acts of terrorism.

The monitoring of the mainstream media coverage of the protests found almost a universal failure to inform readers or watchers about the pro-terrorism stances of the groups and the activists mentioned and quoted in the news articles and on-air segments.

That's quite a list.

That seems,

I don't know, maybe

dangerous and something people should point out.

What do you think, Stu?

You think that's worth pointing out?

I mean, I don't want to get extreme here.

You sound like

some sort of nutjob protester there with that sort of quest.

Look at the groups.

These are all the enemies, the worst of the worst.

And they are 60% of them, they say, are from foreign countries.

60% of these people coming into on the streets of Chicago are from foreign countries.

This is foreign interference from our greatest enemies

and the Democrats are playing footsie with them.

Yeah, I mean they should be denouncing them from the state.

Yes, that should be not handing them their chosen vice presidential pick.

That's certainly not the direction to go.

I mean, if you think about it that way, the reason why Tim Walls is the vice presidential candidate is to appease these groups.

They specifically picked him because they were worried about these protests and worried this stuff would flare up.

Yes.

So they gave them exactly what they wanted.

And what happens, Glenn, when you give terrorists and terrorist supporters exactly what they want?

They demand more and get stronger and louder and more dangerous

to you.

Right.

You incentivize them to do more of this.

And so this is what they had to deal with.

I mean, they have made this bed and they now have to lie in it.

So let me just now that you know who these protesters are, and you know the reaction of the Harris campaign to embrace and get closer,

do you think she's qualified to be commander-in-chief?

Do you think sitting down at a negotiating table with Iran, South Korea, China, Putin, that she'd be able to actually bring peace to the world?

This is the most dangerous time in our country's history.

This is more dangerous than the civil war because we have nuclear weapons pointed at us.

We not only have the chance of civil war in this country, we are looking at global annihilation as well if we're not careful.

My gosh.

I just,

you know,

nobody is pointing anything out in the media, the mainstream media.

It was all bunny rabbits and Easter flowers from the networks yesterday, and they intentionally hid Joe Biden.

They intentionally, I mean, you don't go 90 minutes late for the president of the United States.

They pushed him out of prime time on the East Coast.

And that was intentional.

They're hiding him.

Nobody wants to see him anymore.

He's now on vacation in California, and

I hope his health stays really, really strong.

But again, I ask,

who's running our country?

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Now back to the podcast.

I want to compare and contrast here for a second.

Last month, while covering the Republican National Convention, The Washington Post published a piece filled with contempt for the rich, the corporate bigwigs that were flocking to Milwaukee to rub shoulders with Donald Trump.

Now, you could have said this maybe 20 years ago, 25 years ago, that, you know, Wall Street and big business was in the pocket of the Republicans.

You cannot say that anymore.

You just can't.

All of the corporations.

are all part of the WEF and this global public-private partnership that Biden and Harris have been pushing.

In the article during the RNC, they described the oil and gas executives and the crypto backers and powerful Republican politicians having hushed conversations in fancy luxury suites about alleged tax breaks that apparently Donald Trump is only going to provide to America's most wealthy.

The image they painted was greedy, evil businessmen making back alley deals in dark rooms.

After all, the post would remind you, democracy dies in darkness.

But even if the post description of the RNC

attendees was completely accurate, I'd still take rich CEOs over the groups invading the DNC in Chicago this week, which, unsurprisingly, the Post and others have failed to cover.

Last hour, we told you who these people were,

and it is terrifying.

It is every terrorist group on the planet is on the streets in Chicago.

But is anybody going to say anything about it?

No.

No.

You know,

it's very hard to make Planned Parenthood look good, but those protesters do.

But what are they calling for?

One's calling for Jewish blood, and the other is calling for baby blood.

This is a blood death cult.

That's all it is.

Planned Parenthood was parked outside with buses providing free vasectomies and abortions for those who were lucky enough to sign up before all the spots were filled.

I mean, how many abortions can you do in a bus in one day?

I don't know.

Conservative media reacted to the news with shock and disgust.

Libs of TikTok called Planned Parenthood's efforts demonic.

It is.

The pro-life group Students for Life said this proves the far left is, quote, the party of death.

That is true.

But free abortions really shouldn't be all that shocking after all.

Pro-abortion groups like Aid Access, run by a team of European doctors, has been mailing abortion pills to women in all 50 states for as low as a hundred bucks for years.

The party's nominated VP candidate signed a bill into law last year that removes the requirement for doctors to use all reasonable measures to preserve the life and health of a baby who survives an abortion attempt.

Born,

born outside of the mother's body.

There is no health for the mother you have to worry about anymore.

And the nominee for the president, Kamala Harris,

made, I think, a Freudian slip of the tongue.

Do we have the reduce the population clip by any chance

maybe it was a mistake for the prompter maybe

maybe she accidentally said the quiet part out loud i think it was freudian

she said

she said this listen when we invest in clean energy and electric vehicles and reduce population more of our children can breathe clean air and drink clean water

freudian slip

She said reduce population, but I'm sure the prompter said reduce pollution.

But

that is part of the deal.

Listen to Bill Gates.

We have to reduce the population.

This is a death cult.

Now the left is revealed it's no longer just the party of killing babies.

They're also the party of eliminating the possibility of them at all.

J.D.

Vance received immense backlash from the left recently calling out the childless cat ladies running the Democratic Party.

But he's right.

Democratic voters are more likely to not have children by choice, not due to medical reasons or the inability to conceive, but by choice than their Republican counterparts.

There was a University of Chicago poll that was conducted in 2022.

They found 38% of Democrats had no children compared to 26% of those on the right.

38 to 26.

But like Planned Parenthood's free abortions, it shouldn't be surprising.

This has been an ongoing movement pushed by the left for decades.

There was an op-ed published by the New York Times in 1990.

William A.

Burley.

argued that, quote, having fewer children means a better life and a healthier environment.

He wrote, This truth should be taught to our kids, which unfortunately he was in the perfect position to do as the principal of an elementary school in New Milford, Connecticut, teaching yesterday's millennials, who are now reproducing today at staggering low levels, that having kids in their future adult years is a death sentence for personal freedom.

So, the Washington Examiner, Timothy Carney, wrote that a decade or two after Burley's op-ed was published, New Milford, Connecticut has suffered such a decline in birth rate that it closed its family birthing center.

Student population at the high school dropped so much that the JV and varsity football teams had to combine to field a team.

A shutdown of the community center building now hosts a howl oween

parade for dogs.

This is happening all throughout the country on TikTok in 23 the term dink resurfaced from the late 1980s which stands for dual income no kids that year dink videos of child-free parents bragging about the ample time and money they have to travel and eat at night nice restaurants surpassed 33 million views

One of the TikTokers who posts dink vlogs for her over 100,000 followers said in one video, we don't have kids to feed.

We've got lots of money to spend on goodies.

While showing her and her husband shopping at Costco,

the glamorizing on social media of the decision not to reproduce may be enough to push thousands of potential parents grappling with the decision to decide child-free is the way to go.

How different would fertility rates look today if TikTok videos romanticized parenthood instead?

So while the child-free lifestyle rises in popularity, the popularity of just being around kids plummets.

Major league sports stadiums now have family sections,

as if kids don't belong with the rest of us.

In vitriolic backlash against social media famous parents who sacrifice their own dreams for the sake of their kids, like ballerina farm, that continues to grow.

So what is the reason behind all of this

surely a political party starving for power and control would realize

it needs a future populace to carry the torch

but they're aborting their own future voters

That party also stands directly alongside globalists who want freedom thinkers to have as little power as possible.

And having kids gives you just that.

Having and raising kids gives parents something to live for beyond themselves it requires them to reflect on the future and the kind of country they want for their kids and what citizenship means and how to teach that it gives them a reason to fight it gives them ownership

not saying kids are property They're living beings with their own individual needs, personalities, and desires, but raising them gives parents the kind of autonomous power that globalist governments do not want citizens to have in any shape or form.

Whether it's financial freedom in owning a home or the intellectual freedom in knowing that my kid is mine and you can't force me to teach her the dark principles and beliefs of the far left

that they are teaching so brazenly in schools and everywhere.

But still they try through educational indoctrination as soon as a child is big enough to don a backpack.

But at the end of the day, the far left knows that indoctrinating the sacred home where the parents have complete control over the lessons and the principles that they choose to shape their kids is

a much bigger battle and a tougher battle.

So why fight the fight when you can just eliminate the kids?

You will own nothing and be happy.

You will raise no one and you will be happy.

You'll be happier just as the dink couple.

Extra money to spend on gifts and lavish trips around the world, they say.

You'll have the freedom to stay up late.

You'll roll back and forth in bed, just screaming freedom.

But like so much of the far left claims,

the opposite is true.

I don't know what will convince people

of the lies that they're buying into.

So many of them just last night.

Stunning lies.

Provable lies.

But you see, they're counting on their voter

to be stupid.

And they've laid the groundwork.

They don't just,

they don't trust that just stupid is enough.

They need you to hate Donald Trump more

than your personal finances.

They need you to hate Donald Trump more than open borders.

They need you to hate Donald Trump more than fentanyl and drugs on our streets and our children being killed by illegals.

The drug cartels are now running.

They need you to hate Donald Trump more than hotel rooms while vets on the streets.

They need you to hate Donald Trump more than notice the people who are strung out on drugs in our streets, which are decaying every day.

They need you to hate Donald Trump more than communism, war, possibility of nuclear war.

They need you to hate Donald Trump more than this cult of death.

I don't know.

When we get into the ballot box, all of us as Americans,

do Americans actually

hate Donald Trump more

than what's in their own best interest?

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Gerald Gerald Posner is an investigative journalist, Pulitzer finalist.

He's the author of 13 best-selling books, including Mengele, Case Closed, Why America Slept, God's Bankers, Pharma.

And what was the one you were mentioning, Stu?

Hitler's Children.

Hitler's Children.

Yeah.

Gerald, welcome to the program.

How are you, sir?

Glenn, great to be with you.

You know, and I listened to your lead-in when you said, you know, what is the Secret Service doing about the hundreds of groups and the tens of thousands of radical radical and extreme demonstrators in front of the building?

You know, one of the things I worry about is that the recent assassination attempt on Donald Trump, which exposed sort of how the paper tiger of the Secret Service, how they were not the James Bonds of the world that they had been, we had been led to believe in some ways, might encourage a copycat, might encourage somebody else who's on the edge to realize that the system

is vulnerable and

vulnerable is with a capital V.

So, Gerald, I mean, you've looked at the

Kennedy case, Martin Luther King.

You've studied that for years and years to do case closed,

and

very, very thorough.

When you look back,

There were so many conspiracy theories on that,

and that's because there were some things that just didn't seem right at the time, like Oswald being shot right after.

This is conspiracy central

because everything the government is doing, everything the Secret Service is doing, the FBI, is

not normal.

And if you don't want conspiracy theories, they're acting exactly the wrong way.

And so I don't know what's fact and what's theory.

I don't know how to to process this with a government that you don't trust.

Yeah, you're exactly right.

Lookie, you hit the nail on the head.

The government, in this case, is not only

hiding the information from the American public, from investigators, from researchers.

We're getting some members in Congress who are getting whistleblowers who are coming forward.

That's not the way to get information on when the former president of the United States came within an inch of being killed.

They should have learned from the Kennedy assassination.

They should have learned from the King assassination.

Cover-ups do not work well.

And it doesn't have to be the cover-up of a murder.

It's just the cover-up of the truth.

They hide things, they keep documents back, they have communications here that they say they didn't hold on to.

There's a whole series of things they've stonewalled from the beginning.

And Glenn, we became accustomed over time on these things, whether it was 9-11 or whether it was a Cat 5 hurricane that came in or an earthquake, the government has these round-the-clock news conferences in which people from FEMA and the FBI and whatever else, they hold the conferences.

If the investigators can't say something because it's under investigation, they'll say, I'm sorry, I can't comment on that now, but here's what we can tell you.

And here they went into a silo.

They didn't say anything at all.

You know, not until we saw the former

disgraced Secret Service director get subpoenaed before Congress, or she wouldn't have even been there, and then stonewalled them that day.

No wonder people are skeptical about what happened.

And one last thing, I think, you know, you hit a key thing when you said the Kennedy and King assassinations, which I have studied.

One of the things that they have in common with this assassination attempt on Donald Trump, which raises questions from the get-go, is you have a shooter with a rifle shooting from a long distance.

In most assassinations, we're accustomed to somebody running up to the person they want to kill, like Sirhan Sirhan on Bobby Kennedy, or when Wallace was shot by Bremer, or, you know, Ronald Reagan is shot by Hinkley.

We know who the shooter is.

It doesn't answer the question of whether it was a conspiracy.

Did they do it with somebody else or were they egged on?

But you know the person with the gun.

Here, you have a shot from a distance with a rifle, which immediately conjures up all the ideas for people who've seen, you know, Day of the Jackal, some hired assassin, something more to it.

And so I think that that adds to the overall conspiracy speculation from moment one.

So we also know now that two days before, they said they were going to increase Donald Trump's protection because they had stumbled upon a plot to kill him through a Pakistani with ties to Iran who was supposed to set it up and then leave before the assassination and they arrested him at the airport the day before the assassination but then we find out not only did they not increase they actually decreased from four snipers to two

yes

Amazing.

No, no, no.

It's the type of stuff that leaves you just shaking your head and saying, no, that can't be true.

And we now know that that was the first time in the Trump campaign that there were snipers at a rally.

So before that, the Secret Service hadn't even provided the snipers.

Imagine if this assassination attempt had been successful and the snipers weren't there.

People would be, we would be asking for people to go to jail.

And you're right about they've had a threat from a terrorist state that they know they understand somebody's trying to kill the former president.

They still have not upgraded the security to be as great as it would be as if he was the sitting president.

They actually cut it down.

We now know for two years

before this when the Trump campaign was asking for additional security for different events, they were turned down repeatedly, something the Secret Service at first denied and then had to admit when four whistleblowers told that to the Washington Post.

Washington Post, no friend of Donald Trump, they even reported that.

And so here's a case in which we have them doing less security, not providing it, notwithstanding the fact that there was a foreign threat to the president as well.

So what does your gut tell you?

My gut tells me that we're going to find, I think at the very least,

like we did with Peter Strzok and the FBI when they were doing the

fake investigation about Russia and the Russian dossier.

And later Strzok's found to have had emails to Lisa Page that says, I can't stand that guy, Trump.

And he shows all of his bias and how the investigation was pegged.

I'd be very surprised if we do not get emails, maybe official emails within on government servers or private emails in eventual government investigations.

If the Republicans take the House,

keep the House in November.

We will have those inquiries.

they're in which senior secret service members or maybe even those operational details for some of the rallies that donald trump was at are saying very very bad things about the former president and that is going to call into question you know we think of the secret service as being apolitical it doesn't mean you don't have a feeling about who you vote for you go to the election ballot and you cast a ballot but you're protecting everybody you're giving up your life for the candidate that you're protecting.

And if we start to think that they had tipped the scale because they didn't like the person they were supposed to protect, and they may have been lax to allow somebody like a crooks, the 20-year-old shooter, to get off a shot, then it's going to cause a real ruckus.

You know, Gerald, has it always been like this?

And I've just been naive?

I mean, I've always looked up to Secret Service guys.

I've seen them protect dirtbags

and know that some of those guys don't like these guys.

And I mean foreign dirtbags, not just, you know, American.

And they'd risk their life for these guys.

And I've always looked up to them.

And I don't know.

Is this new?

Or has it always been this way?

No, I think that, look,

and

you see this very, very well in your report on it as well, how polarized we are as a country.

And it seems to me that that has infected the bureaucracy in many ways.

We talk about the politicization of the FBI.

And if we think of that as the CIA and the intelligence services and the State Department, why should we be surprised?

It's not as though there was a wall up that kept that virus from going over to Secret Service.

But I do think, to what you said, that most of the agents, the vast majority of the agents in the field, what I call the close protection, those who are responsible for actually throwing themselves on top of a candidate if they hear gunshots, as those agents did who were close to the stage.

And

they are putting themselves in the line of a bullet for all they know.

Now, one of the things we all said, Glenn, when we saw

that play out was it was very visible that when they lifted the

former president gets back on his feet and they're starting to move in a cauldron around him back to the car.

They have that circle around, that close protective circle.

They don't know if there's a second shooter, if the shooter who's originally gotten off the the shots is still active.

And we see two of the agents who are a full head shorter than the president.

The old way of doing it was that you assigned Secret Service agents for the close protection who at least were the same size as the candidate you were covering.

Right.

So that if you're trying to get the candidate out of there and somebody's shooting, they're going to hit an agent, not the candidate.

If former president was being moved out from Butler, from that rally after that failed shot, and was then killed by a second shooter because the agents were too short.

Could you imagine what we would be doing in this country?

It would turn things upside down.

I think that day, I mean, you saw it.

I saw it right after it happened,

and it just

clipped his ear because he moved.

If he wouldn't have moved, it would have been John F.

Kennedy live on television.

I think that could have have put us in civil war.

No,

you're right.

And I tell you that we now know, which we didn't at that time, that

now we see all the videos.

You know, one of the great things, the difference from the Kennedy or King assassination is people have what you expect, cell phone videos.

They're taping the rally.

They're there.

And what's amazing is that 140 yards away from the stage, where Donald Trump is taking the stage at 6 p.m.

and then speaking,

are a group of people, you know, regular rallygoers who've gone out that day to see the former president saying, hey, there he is.

There he is.

See him.

He's rolling over.

He's there.

Hey, officer.

Hey, officer.

And that, you have to put yourself for half a second into the shooter, the 20-year-old kid who has practiced a lot at the range.

He's got this Deranged idea that he's going to kill the former president.

But he's expecting he's found this spot.

You know, he wants to get to the top.

He has his range finder.

He tried to get through the perimeter.

They turned him away.

He's climbed onto the roof of the building.

He's managed to get his gun up there.

And he's ready to try to pull off this assassination.

And now he gets spotted for this minute and a half, two minutes beforehand.

People are yelling, and he can hear that clearly.

They're down there.

They're calling him out.

They're pointing to him.

So that has to add some adrenaline to the whole mix.

And then a police officer gets to the top of the roof, right?

Right before he starts to fire, he looks over and that officer drops down.

but it had to rush the shooting a little bit.

He had to be under the pressure of knowing

closing in on him.

And so we talk about, you know, the difference between getting off that shot and it hits the former president and kills him or not could also be those moments of chaos that are playing out away from the stage that just made enough of a difference.

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