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The interview with London Roberts.

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I didn't know how I felt about all of it,

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That also we talk about how weird the media is getting on the word weird.

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It's weird, Stu.

What?

Isn't this a weird day?

What a weird day.

It is so

weird.

These Republicans, have you noticed their policies?

They're so weird.

I have.

They're weird.

They're weird.

You know, in fact, I have a...

You know what's really weird?

Is this montage

put together that shows all of everybody in the media and everybody on the left suddenly calling J.D.

Vance weird.

Here it is.

Some of what he and his running mate are saying, well, it's just plain weird.

These guys are just weird.

That's who they are.

As weird and creepy as J.D.

Vance.

Super weird idea.

J.D.

Vance.

Yeah, it's not.

I mean, it's quite weird.

Just plain weird.

Just plain weird.

Just plain weird.

That stuff is weird.

They come across weird and then they start being weird.

Yeah, they're weird.

Being a really weird.

He's such a weirdo.

Donald Trump and his weirdo running mate are weird.

Deeply and profoundly weird.

They are weird.

These Republicans just being weird.

It's just weird.

It's really weird.

Republican weirdness goes even deeper.

He said a lot of things that are weird.

A weird style that he brings.

Weird policies.

Let's start with the weird thing, because it is a thing.

Just plain weird.

What was weird was his talking about Diet Mountain Dew.

Who drinks Diet Mountain Dew?

Who ever seen the guy laugh?

That seems very weird to me that an adult can go through six and a half years of being in the public eye.

If he has laughed, it's at someone, not with someone.

That is weird behavior.

Wow.

Wow.

Who's writing the memos?

This is unbelievable coordination.

I mean, I stand in awe

at the

system the left has built to where they can get everyone to walk in lockstep overnight.

Kamala Harris is horrible.

She's the worst vice president.

She is hated by everybody.

She can't keep anybody on her staff.

She is unlikable, unworkable.

She's not the replacement.

Overnight, she's a genius.

She's a genius.

You don't know how great she is.

Did you know that, I mean, far from being very, very, very busy helping the president run the country every day, she's also a marvelous cook.

There's a story out in the, I think it's in the New York Times today about what what a health addict she is.

And her, I mean, you have to see her exercise routine.

It is unbelievable.

They're all in lockstep.

And, you know, I know that this is true.

We know this is the way it works, but it is awesome in its weirdness, creepiness, and quite honestly,

Orwellian

way

to watch this happen in real time.

Now let me tell you what I think they're doing.

I think

that they are

very wisely changing the tone of the conversation and they're going with Kamala's weird laugh.

Isn't that great?

He's just weird.

And they're trying to change the tone from uh a grumpy old man

you're a danger to the uh democracy

to it's just weird isn't it they're just weird they are trying to soften themselves from the possibility of being a fascist dictator to just somebody like you that just looks at things and goes that is weird isn't it now you may not do that but they're also trying to make it uh a campaign for the the younger set.

You know, those people that are, well,

weirdly younger.

I wouldn't,

I would not dismiss

what they're doing right now.

I think this is a

this coupled with

black women or white women for Kamala, Black men for Kamala.

You know, one-legged Asians for Kamala.

I just, I don't get it.

Until you start to think, perhaps,

perhaps they are softening things

by almost mocking themselves.

That's the way they're not.

But I think...

they are trying to appear as though it's all tongue-in-cheek.

I think it's a good strategy if that's what they're doing.

But it is, it's

awesome in its evilness to watch.

It does seem like something like the white dudes for Kamala is a little bit tongue-in-cheek.

They do seem to be playing that up a little bit.

But I think it would be the party of fun.

Yeah.

They're going to be party of fun.

Remember, she said, and we're going to have a lot of fun with this, aren't we, Barack?

We're going to have a lot of fun with this.

It's interesting that you bring this up because I had the same sort of thought yesterday as I was watching all this, you know, the weird coverage.

And

I think we're probably in the minority.

And I think that most people just look at this on the right and just like, okay, they're just trying this crazy stuff.

The only reason I would say it's notable is that they've tried the same tactic on Donald Trump for so long that he increased it's like global warming, increasing levels of doom, right?

Every time you talk about Donald Trump, it's he's a fascist.

He's a dictator.

He's Hitler.

He's going to stop democracy.

And they just keep escalating.

Oh, it's handmade's tail.

And they've tried that so many times, this one-note strategy against him, that I think trying anything different is probably wise for them.

What they do now

doesn't work, and Trump knows how to respond to it.

This is a little bit different.

And so far, like, it's been basically J.D.

Vance on his heels saying, I'm not weird.

I swear I like children.

I like my kids.

And it's like, oh, well, that's crazy.

It's weird.

I mean, that's nonsense, especially with the stuff that they promote.

Obviously, it's crazy, but it at least maybe is a little bit of a change-up from what they've done every other day for the past five years.

Yeah, because

what you're doing is you're forcing the right into a school marm position.

Oh, is that weird that we like children, that we, that we think families are good?

Well, you know what's weird is the Paris Olympics with testicles popping out everywhere.

Right.

And it is weird.

You sound, even though you're accurate, you sound like the school marm.

The happy warrior wins.

I think that's their strategy.

Right.

I think it could pay off.

And it's a little bit of, again, I don't know that it works.

Remember,

this is a party that's losing.

Right.

So trying something different is what you do in these moments.

I know.

And so I'm just trying, I don't want to oversell it like this is some brilliant strategy.

I'm just saying that changing here is probably wise.

Not to mention, it's one of those things you've talked about a million times, Glenn, of making your weakness your strength.

They are weird.

What they want is weird.

It's a very good descriptor of what they're trying to do to this country.

It is very weird.

It is very strange.

But they're saying it in a way to disarm the attack against them.

Everyone knows the fact that we just had a presidential campaign launch on RuPaul's drag race is weird.

That's weird.

Having, pulling, taking the candidate who won the nomination and replacing him three months before an election is weird.

All that stuff is weird, but they're almost using this in a way to dis that how you see it?

Do you think they're trying to disarm?

The attack that's obviously more applicable to them?

Yes, this isn't normal.

This is weird.

You know this is weird.

This has not happened before.

It's none of this is

is normal.

And so they immediately turn and go, you know, he's weird.

He's really weird.

Have you heard what they're saying?

They're weird.

And they're they are bringing the temperature down.

They are seeming like the fun people that they are because she didn't really talk about anything.

She didn't know what she's saying.

I mean, I did, you know, the Van Diagrams.

We're just having fun with this.

That's all we're doing.

We're just like you.

That's what's happening.

And it's a great thing.

And it is.

If that's what they're doing, I think it's brilliant and dangerous for the Republic because she is

weird.

She is not normal.

She is not

a traditional candidate.

There is no way that Kamala Harris could ever become president unless you took her as the most unpopular candidate in the race and you put her as the vice president.

And then you had some guy who was so wildly incompetent and

so dangerous for the country.

that you put her in and you put her in at the last minute before anybody can really

talk to her again and refresh everybody's mind who she is

give her very little rope she's got very little time to offend everybody and to do anything but a soft shoe dance

That's the only way you get her in as president.

No one, no Democrat would elect her if it started back last year and she had debates.

It would never work.

And now you're going to be able to have the most, she is more progressive than Barack Obama.

I don't think she's more progressive than Big Mike, but she's much more progressive than Barack Obama.

She believes it to the core of her being.

And

she was raised by Berkeley professors.

You know what's weird?

That's weird.

The only way you can get her in is in a very short time period, have her come in when it's an emergency and everybody has to agree with her.

Make sure that you got the press in lockstep and

just we're just having fun with this.

We're not taking, you don't take that seriously.

Like, oh, I got to do that.

Dangerous.

Very dangerous for our side.

And I'm not saying she's going to win.

I'm saying don't take this lightly.

It's a real threat to not only maybe the candidacy, but also the country.

What happened

with the GOP convention?

Why did everybody feel

so good after that?

Because it was happy and joyful.

And that's something we haven't felt in a long time.

We're used to people saying the worst things about one another.

When they come out with something like weird, that's just weird.

That's not offensive at all.

And you can kind of laugh about that.

It is kind of weird, isn't it?

You know, I don't think I can vote for them because that is weird, but you're just, you're just so much like me.

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I want to play a couple of things here, just a couple of pieces of audio that I don't know.

I'm a little uncomfortable with.

Here's White Women for Kamala Cut One about women's privilege.

White women.

I mean, here we are.

I have to admit, when I was writing stuff down, I was like, Karen's for Kamala?

I don't know.

You know, why is it so difficult, as Glennon was saying, to acknowledge and address ourselves as white women?

But here we are.

And I am so proud for all of us to be together as women, as white women.

We are the ones that have the privilege, of course.

And we too have had to.

fight and continue to fight for our equality, our selfhood, our freedom.

But

we have whatever privileges our male, white male counterparts have had the mercy and good sense to bestow on us, and then whatever else of it we have managed to take for ourselves, often being led by, as many have said earlier tonight, the leadership of our sisters of color who have fought and fought and continue to fight for their righteous place on God's green earth.

Yeah.

Yeah, so white women have the privilege.

They're now apparently the

ruling class, I think.

I think that's what she was saying.

And they wanted to make it very clear when they started this Zoom call.

One of the influencers

really wanted to make sure that nobody makes any mistakes on this phone call.

Cut four.

I'm going to share some do's and don'ts for getting involved in politics online.

Don't make it about yourself.

As white women, we need to use our privilege to make positive changes.

If you find yourself talking over or speaking for BIPOC individuals, or God forbid, correcting them, just take a beat.

And instead, we can put our listening ears on.

So do learn from and amplify the voices of those who have been historically marginalized and use the privilege you have in order to push for systemic change.

As white people, we have a lot to learn and unlearn.

So do check your blind spots.

Okay.

All right.

Well, let's bring on Bridget Fettesey.

And please, please check your blind spot, Bridget, if you will.

Please.

Please acknowledge that I'm the most powerful person on this call right now.

Yeah, you are.

You have all the white women privilege.

And

you really are going to be the one that turns this whole thing around, you white women.

Glenn, do you understand that it is up to me and my people to save the world?

Literally save the world.

It is up to us.

If we don't get it together, the world will end.

Yeah.

They said that.

I know you're, you know that.

They said that yesterday.

That it is up to the white women.

Oh my gosh.

Do women, I mean.

Are there a lot of women that think this way that are like fine with, you know what, i just have i have so much to learn and so little uh to say and so much to unlearn uh but i'm the most powerful person here what are you talking about oh my gosh

it's such a weird humble brag in a strange way it's like at the same time you're saying you are

you know i was saying this yesterday to you actually and talking to my friends about this you have to have the world view you have to start with the premise that it it is actually white supremacy.

You have to believe you are better than everyone else and that it is up to you to lift up all of these people, these poor people who can't help themselves and speak to everybody like they're toddlers.

We need to put our listening ears on and talk to people.

Oh my gosh.

It's insanity, but I do think it's a way for people.

I mean, what is more important than saving the world while also somehow humbling yourself and recognizing your privilege?

It's, it is, it's still all ego.

It's so gross.

It's so gross.

Is this feelings about this?

Popular?

Is this going to work, Bridget?

I mean, I don't know.

It's weird.

It's like I went offline for a couple days just to take a break from mainlining X.

And I came back on and it was like 2016 with flavors of 2020 all over again.

And this didn't, it didn't work in 2016.

You know, all of this, like they, I feel like, oh, we're just going to run a very unlikable politician that people have openly said they don't like.

We're going to astro-turf.

the entire media with, oh, look at how cool this person is with celebrities and white white dudes for Harris and white women for Kamala, weird, weird Zoom calls.

We're going to make it seem like this is all very popular, except it's not.

And then they're going to be out marching in their

knitted pink hats, you know, the day after the election.

I don't think this feels like it feels like

I don't know.

It feels manufactured to to me, all of that.

Okay, so let me ask you this.

You heard that everybody's now calling Trump and J.D.

Vance weird.

And I think it's weird that everybody started saying it at the same time.

And I think, Bridget, that this is...

This is the new strategy where he was a danger to the Republic.

People are so sick and tired of hearing all of this.

And they just want somebody just to be normal with him.

and so i think it's a way to have you know donald trump or whoever say the woman is a socialist

and then they go you know they're just weird they're just weird i mean i'm more like you we're just laughing it off that seems to me to be a dangerous strategy for the right

dangerous i i'm i'm I'm obsessed with this weird thing this morning.

I was going down all these rabbit holes for numerous reasons.

One, it's clearly like the memo went out and this is, you know, blatant astroturfing.

Then there's the strange weaponization of the word weird by a party that has generally, that has been cool coded.

It's been Lady Gaga was weird and her little monsters and this was something that was always very left-wing dominated.

We're going to make weird cool.

So they were the ones who said, no,

you can't use weird.

But then there was all this language of ableism that came out.

And you couldn't say crazy and you couldn't say insane and you couldn't.

And I was looking at all the lists this morning and weird is either it's been retroactively removed, which I wouldn't be surprised.

But it might have been the one word that they were like, hey, what can we call him that we're not going to get yelled at for?

And weird isn't on any of these lists, strangely.

And as I was talking to my editor at the spectator about, we were texting and he was saying, you know, to to win the general, you have to seem normal.

And it's whoever is normal.

And now they've made weird this, you know, step to creepy, like one step away from creepy.

But I don't know if you should be doing that if you have guys like Sam Britton and Rachel Levine on your side.

I mean, this you can't, that seems like a bad idea for the left to make weird one step away from creepy because they have way more weird people

that represent them than I would say the mainstream right wing.

If I may, however,

you know, it's always the happy warrior that American what America wants to be with.

And so if they are, if they are seen as almost mocking themselves, you know, Karen's for Kamala,

and they're not taking themselves so seriously, even though on the call they took themselves like godlike seriously.

And

they're calling them weird.

And then you say,

really?

That's weird?

How about the dude that's stealing women's suitcases that you had watching over our nukes?

And then their response is, see, I mean, you're just bigoted in hatred, full of hatred.

I mean, you're weird, but you're also bigoted.

And

we're just having, I keep coming back to what she said at the very end of that phone call with Barack and Michelle or Big Mike.

She said, and we're going to have a lot of fun with this, aren't we?

And it was so fake, but I think that's what they're going for.

I think they're just going to just laugh their way through this.

It's just going to be fun.

We're just going to have fun.

Yeah, I think they realized a couple of things,

which is

smart of them to course correct they seem to have leaned back into okay America isn't horrible like we've been saying and preaching and academia and we're gonna re-embrace the American flag they seem to have

been saying

like they realized you know the the RNC for whatever you know idiocracy it might have seemed like it was fun it was like people having fun.

And I was saying this on Twitter.

They're like, oh, look what they're projecting.

I'm like, they're projecting fun, this thing that Americans like to have and generally have.

And I think they're realizing they're not seen as the fun party.

They're seen as the scolds now and the pearl cleutchers and the authoritarians who are checking everyone's language.

And so I don't know.

They're not going to be able.

That's not, you can't be,

you can't say this is the, this is a weird paradox.

You can't say this is the end of democracy.

And, oh, look how weird J.D.

Vance is.

That doesn't, it doesn't carry this.

They're trying to like walk this tightrope, and I don't think they're going to be able to do it.

You can't be calling everybody bigoted and racist, and that this is a fascist takeover of America and then be like, look at how weird he is.

Yucca, yucca, yucca.

It's like weird that's weird

yes it is it is awfully strange um however it might work for a limited time uh you know that that was the thing that i think the gop had going for it this year was it was full of joy and it was fun and uh you know it was like a respite from the end of the world And it was still serious, had its serious moments when it needed to be, but it was fun.

And I I think that's what gave the wind in the sails of the Republicans and Donald Trump.

And I think that's what they're going for.

I could be wrong.

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Welcome to the program, London Roberts, the author of Out of the Shadows.

a new book

about her relationship with the president's son and having the granddaughter that the president's family doesn't seem to want to recognize.

I just want to give you her bio here because I've never heard anything like this from the media.

London Roberts is a mother, an author, and a financial officer, and a financial officer from Batesville, Arkansas.

Her all-star basketball career culminated at Arkansas State University, where she was a McDonald's all-American nominee shooting guard.

She also studied criminal justice and psychology.

She went on to Washington, D.C.

for the most prestigious CSI training in the country.

That's where she met and began a relationship with Hunter Biden.

She served as Biden's executive assistant at Rosemont Seneca and other business entities.

Now serves as the financial controller for her family-owned business, Rob Roberts Custom Gunworks.

She is the mother of Navy, President Biden's seventh grandchild.

She is in the process of launching a new fashion line, serves as an advocate for women in unplanned pregnancies.

Welcome, London Roberts.

How are you?

Hi, I'm good.

Gwen, how are you?

Very good.

Why is it the press has made you into just a stripper?

You know,

I'm not so sure.

I've sat back and

allowed whatever narrative to be thrown my way.

And, you know, it it seemed that, you know, everyone had

a different narrative than

what the truth was.

And

so were you ever a stripper?

Well, you know,

in the book Out of the Shadows,

I talk about living in D.C.

And

I talk about, you know,

There's a chapter called On the Poll.

And, you know, what that consists of, I would love people to buy it and and read that part for themselves

because the media has put so much of a narrative around that part and that part plays such a little role in the actual truth and the story of everything that actually happened and you know I didn't

you did not meet him at the club I did not meet him at a strip club I met Hunter through a mutual friend that had invited me to go to like I say an after party but it really wasn't a party it was just some people hanging out, having drinks, and just talking.

And it wasn't like your college after-party, but it was actually held at Rosemont Seneca, which was Hunter's firm, and at the House of Sweden.

And I actually met him that night and got to know him.

How did you become his executive assistant?

So I got to know him after that night.

I stayed up.

I talk about, you know, that encounter and finding out who he was and seeing this demon that he was battling and having this empathy for him.

And, you know, a relationship developed and I began to care for him and I began to fall in love with him.

And, you know, it developed for over a year.

There would be times where, you know, I talk about throughout the book, even Hallie, his sister-in-law, confided in me and said, you know, Hunter trusts you.

And that's something that, you know, is hard to come by.

Like, he doesn't trust a whole lot of people.

And, you know, we developed this friendship, you know, and then it led on into, you know, a relationship.

And

then, you know, I start working for him.

And I talk about how, you know, I start doing like little ins and outs, like executive assistant type work where I'm doing,

like running errands for him and things to that nature.

And then

I'm like meeting Katie Dodge, his other assistant, at the office to go over and, you know, help.

Like she's showing me how, you know, to pay the bills, to do all this other stuff, moving his stuff.

You know, he had just gone through a divorce, moving furniture to storage units into the house and stuff like that.

So, you know, I was, I was, it developed over time.

I didn't immediately become his assistant, but you know, over time, when our relationship developed and this friendship developed and we began to get closer, is what I thought, then, you know, he wanted me to be his assistant.

And so I hopped on board and thought that was, you know, such a great idea.

And I ended up in the situation I'm in today.

So did you know the side of Hunter Biden that we now know because of the laptop?

I would say yes and no because, you know, Hunter, of course, as he's been candid about, and as we see from the laptop, was in a really dark place.

And he was battling addiction.

And

the first few chapters of the book, you know, I explain meeting him and caring for him and loving him.

And, you know, I think anybody that has loved or cared for someone that's suffering from addiction

can resonate with that with that part of the book because it's hard.

You feel like you're enabling and you're not

doing your part like you should have to help him get that that change.

And you know, there was even one chapter that I talk about.

I thought Hunter's life was going to end that night.

He had consumed so many drugs and he was a he was at the worst state I'd ever seen him.

And he found his way to me because he knew that I'd take care of him.

And I did.

I sat there with the phone in my hand that entire night wondering, you know, listening to his breathing and crying and praying and wondering, you know, should I call 911?

But if I do, and I call the ambulance and get them here, yes, I save his life.

But I knew, I knew Hunter well enough to know that he hated being the black sheep of his family.

And that's what he felt like.

He felt like he was constantly a disappointment and a scandal-plagued son, you know.

And so I knew that if I did that, then he would hate me forever and never speak to me again.

So I sit there and I monitored his breathing the entire night.

I got him water.

I tried to, you know, make him drink it.

And,

you know,

there are some dark times, and there are some dark chapters that bring out that place that he was in during that time.

But, you know, there's also some chapters that show the good that was in him, too.

The good that I saw, the good that I fell in love with.

You know, I may have been young and dumb and naive,

but there was a good side to him that I've seen and that I fell in love with.

Do you still love him?

No, I'll always care about Hunter because, you know,

he blessed me with the greatest blessing I could have ever asked for, and that was my daughter.

But, you know, no.

I talk about

the last time I felt like I was in love with him is around pregnancy time.

You know, I was...

That's when our relationship ended.

And he said that he was going to be there for me.

And I scheduled

a sonogram to hear the baby's heartbeat for the first time and I scheduled it in Annapolis because that's where his house was at the time that he was staying in so I wanted to make it easier for him and he actually didn't show up and I listened to our baby's heartbeat alone and every sonogram after that I went to alone and you know that you'll fall out of love

when you go through something like that and you know you drove yourself to the hospital to give birth alone an hour and a half if I'm not mistaken

In labor.

I drove to the hospital after the water, my water broke.

I drove to all my appointments.

I went in to, you know, I went in the back.

I did all the sonogram.

I did the whole pregnancy thing alone.

And

I blamed him for a long time because I felt like he put me in such a dark place where I contemplated taking my own life.

You know,

I talk about how, you know, I have to be, I'm accountable for my own feelings and getting myself in that dark place, even though he didn't show up and he didn't do his part, it's still, you know, mental health is still on me.

And that was, you know, a hole that I had to dig myself out of.

And, you know, I talk about the faith of a mustard seed and the maternal instinct and mother's love that I have for my daughter is what got me out of that dark place and you know allowed me to stand here today and and tell my story.

So why won't they recognize Navy?

You know, that's something I just, I don't know.

I've never been able to answer that question because

I can't imagine how embracing a child would hurt anyone's image.

I think it would be a feather in their cap to, you know, acknowledge a child

and love one.

I don't understand.

You talk in the book about this time when you guys, you and Navy, you're at a nail salon, and she sees grandpa up on tv and she says that's my grandpa and you say yeah keep your voice down but yes it is and you have a conversation with her that he's very busy right now but when he's done he's gonna come and see her do you believe that

um

she's actually the one that says you know um when i have

her Yes, when I have the conversation with her, you know, she wants to know, she's getting to that age or she had gotten to that age where she's like, you know, so-and-so has a mom and dad, and I only have a mom, and so another person has a mom and dad, and I only have a mom.

Like, do I not have a dad?

And so, I tell her, you know, I talk about I want her to be resilient.

I want her to be open-minded, I want her to have grace, I want her to have forgiveness in her heart, even to people who might not deserve it or ask for it.

And, you know, I talk about being open with her and

just telling her, yes, you know, you do have a dad.

And,

well, what's his name?

You know, and she wants to see him, and I show her a picture and I talk about how

I just tell her I don't know what to tell her you know because she's she's too young to comprehend just everything

and so I tell her you know that her dad's a really busy man he lives far away because she wants to know well why doesn't my dad come visit me and so I make excuses and I tell her that you know he he's a busy man he lives far away and then you know, I tell her what her grandfather does.

And she says, oh, so that's why they don't come to visit me because he's out helping other people.

Because I tell her the role that he plays with, you know, being the leader of the free world.

Yeah.

And she says, Oh, so that's why he doesn't come to see me because he's out visiting or he's out helping other people.

But when he's done helping them, then he'll come see me, right?

And I'm like, I can only hope so, sis.

You know, I don't have an answer for that.

And I don't.

And I've said from the beginning, you know, I'll be open with Navy, as open as I possibly can.

And someday, if she

hates that side of the family, it will be because of their actions and what they did and didn't do.

It won't be because of me.

I won't instill that hatred in her heart.

I don't want her to carry that hatred in her heart.

But someday, she's going to feel that hatred.

And, you know, that's...

That's a burden that I hope.

It will be for her to find and discover.

You're doing the right thing, I think.

Don't ever do anything but say

the truth and the good things that you remember.

Let her find everything else herself.

She'll find the truth eventually.

Lemon,

it's good to talk to you, and our sympathy is with Navy.

I think most Americans, Democrats and Republicans, think this is insanity, the way this whole thing has been handled.

And

I worry about her future, as I think many Americans do.

London, thank you.

I worry.

Out of the Shadows is the name of the book, Out of the Shadows by London Roberts, the author and the mother of Navy, the seventh grandchild of the President of the United States.

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