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All right, we talked a lot of

things.

A way out of this insanity with Tammy Bruce.

She's got a new book out that is really, really excellent.

Selena Zito talked to us about what she's seeing in the neighborhoods and boroughs of Pennsylvania.

She's the one who called it for Trump in 2016.

She's the one who said, It doesn't look like 2016.

I don't think it's going that way in 2020.

And she's seeing a change, and it's a remarkable change in Democrats that she has picked up on.

You really need to hear that.

We also talk about what happened on the streets

in Washington, D.C., the president's speech.

And we started with:

it's been a rough three weeks.

And I show you what you are maybe missing.

Yes, it's been hard, but there's been a couple of really good things that have happened that you need to tie yourself to.

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If you just joined us,

you missed an effort to try to explain probably why you feel beat up

and you feel tired.

We all do,

because we have watched our country take an absolute beating

from the debate right into the assassination, right into the

people on social media screaming, how could you possibly miss?

Which was just another assault on your senses.

And then the Secret Service director, Cheadle, coming out and saying, yeah, well, it was a slopey roof.

And so we don't like to put people on hot, slopey roofs.

And

another.

And then a coup happens.

Kamala is made the nominee.

and they start changing history again.

And they start saying, Oh, no, she was never the border czar when they were the ones who told us she was the border czar.

And then last night, the president, while he's doing that, the Palestinians are marching for Hamas in Washington, D.C., and burning an effigy of Bibi Netanyahu and taking down the flags in front of the Union Station, a federal building, and burning the flags.

That's what happened in the last three weeks.

And you're like, there's nobody doing anything.

There's nothing.

Well, let me show you

another side.

And let me show you what happened when the Palestinians took the flag down.

They started burning it.

And there was a group of Americans that went in for that flag.

And they were police officers.

Let me show you the bravery it took to go in and get that flag.

Here you see

maybe what ten police officers.

They are surrounded by an angry Hamas crowd

and they are getting the flag off of the ground.

And people aren't happy.

And they lock arms with the flag and back out of the

I watch this,

and I am moved by the bravery of those officers, and I am grateful to those officers

that they remember who we are.

You have a right to burn the flag.

You're a moron if you do it, but you have a right to burn the flag.

But you do not have a right to deface our monuments, to write Hamas is coming on our monuments take down our flags and then fly the Palestinian flag

no I'm sorry you don't have a right to do that

and in a sane America you would have been arrested but we're not a sane America we're a very sick America but I want to show you the parts that are standing

the left immediately went after Donald Trump when he stood up after being shot in the head.

Secret Service wanted just to rush him out of there.

But he said, and you can hear it on the tape, no, no, no, I need to say something to people.

No,

wait, wait.

And then he did something that I fear too many of us have already forgotten.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

He stands up with a clenched fist and says, fight, fight, fight.

The press immediately tore him apart saying, look, he wants violence.

No, he does not want violence.

He is saying, fight for your country.

Stand up for your country.

Do what those police officers did yesterday.

Fight for your flag.

Fight for our history.

It's not violent.

It is passionate.

And it is rooted in eternal truth.

There are far too many examples

of people being cowards.

Far too many examples of people being stupid.

I come to you today

to ask you to recognize the light.

The shadows are growing so very dark, but that is only possible when the light begins to get brighter.

Be that light.

Be that beacon of hope in somebody's life.

My executive producer Ricky this morning

said it's been a rough three weeks.

And she had tears in her eyes and she said,

I'm just watching my country be destroyed.

And all of us on the

all of us on the meeting,

we all fell silent because we all felt exactly the same way.

But it's because of her bravery to say how she felt that I am giving you and her

this monologue.

It's always darkest before the dawn.

They have trashed our country for 20 plus years.

They have brought us to the point to where we're at a breaking point, a place where I said we would be.

I hoped that we would not.

But the country cannot go on much longer like this.

But I want you to take courage from the things, the two things that I just showed you that also happened this week, and they were big things.

They're just not getting play in the media because that's not their narrative or their agenda.

Your narrative, your agenda, my narrative, my agenda is to save the republic.

Now remember, it was just four weeks ago that we were having the discussion whether we're a republic or a democracy.

And the same people that are lying to you today about Kamala Harris and the Borders are and are in in this sudden whipped-up frenzy to change history.

All of them are doing it.

It's because they're exactly the same people and they are answering to exactly the same people.

It's just Kamala that they're helping and covering for now and not covering for President Biden because President Biden, he has been used up, he's finished, move on.

They are also the same people

that were telling you four weeks ago that we are a democracy.

And when we spoke out and said, no, it's a very important

distinguishing characteristic.

We are a republic.

We have a democratic vote, but after that vote is taken, then we're a republic.

They told us we are conspiracy theories, theorists, that are whipped up by the right and

Donald Trump because it's our plot to make people believe we're a republic.

Well, let me quote President Biden last night, cut 15.

When Ben Franklin was asked, as he emerged from the

convention going on,

whether the founders have given America a monarchy republic, Franklin's response was, a republic, if you can keep it.

A republic if you can keep it.

Whether we keep our republic is now in your hands.

Yes, it is.

But what he means is go out and vote.

What Franklin meant was educate yourself.

Be a responsible citizen.

Care about things.

Talk amongst yourself about these things.

Discover the truth.

Because the truth will be, there will always be people who try to hide the truth from you.

And it is your responsibility, not the media's responsibility, not my responsibility, but your responsibility

to educate yourself.

And when you see an injustice,

fight,

fight, Fight!

You fight for what is true,

and then you go to the ballot box.

You fight for the truth because it's worth fighting for.

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It's the only thing that will change our children's life for the better, is the truth.

So damn right, fight.

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He's doing his part.

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This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

Tammy Bruce, the author of Fear Itself.

Welcome to the program.

Hi, Tammy.

Hi there.

And I have to say it was the National Organization for Women.

Even I wouldn't go near

leading Planned Parenthood.

All right.

I mean,

that's right.

I knew it was one of those organizations I didn't like or trust.

Yes.

And now I am feeling the same way.

And thank you for your kind words about my first book.

And I have to say it's your work that when we talk about the transition of someone like myself from the left to the right, really unlocks a lot of doors when it comes to the way I thought of things and what was possible.

So thank you.

Wow.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

Well, it's your scratch my back.

I'll scratch yours, I guess, because it's...

It is a weird time we're living in and a lot of confused people and they're confused.

And it's so strange that

you were on today.

I was reading something this morning and it is exactly like your book.

And

I was reading something today.

I'm going going to use it tomorrow.

And it's about the different kinds of lies that abusers use.

And how, and it was all written for,

you know, physical domestic abuse.

And that's what your book is about, about how lies and fear is being used by really unscrupulous people.

And we are in an abusive relationship.

And the nice thing is you also have some answers.

And we'll get into that as well.

So explain that concept.

Well, you know, this,

the idea for the book started before COVID, right?

The most immediate example we have where there was an awakening of people was what governments around the world were doing with COVID.

But it's ancient.

It's a technique that is thousands of years old.

It is the notion of using fear to quell populations.

And it tends to work.

Look, there's brainwashing for a reason.

There's cults for a reason.

The mind is susceptible to repeated messages, and especially messages involving dire threats, existential threats, and we adjust in order to survive.

So this is the issue becomes major governments, and yes, we'll get into domestic violence in a second because this is like domestic violence writ large.

But it

is.

Yes, exactly.

So the issue is that the more afraid you can make a population, the more they'll retreat from activity.

But it has to be done in a framework of your life is at stake in one way or another unless you do X.

And if you don't comply or adjust and pay allegiance to what we say is reality, you will be punished.

And it's for your own good, we're told, of course.

And this crosses every single leftist issue.

Global warming, of course,

COVID, the nature of who's going to control what kind of medicine we need and what health care is.

It's the notion of

a crime and even a bad economy, Glenn,

frightens people, right?

You don't have enough money to get to work, to feed your children, and then you don't know if you can pay your rent.

Everything, it's like an onion, adds in to this notion that if you do not behave,

you will be harmed.

and then of course there's language which you're right my first book the new thought police was no warning people a quarter of a century ago that they were changing language not because they cared about you know manhole covers or you know and and what you call certain things

it is right the idea that the moment you are if you if you're unsure about what's safe to say because the rules keep changing then you will stop thinking about the issues And now, of course, we know you can get fired if you misgender someone, which is insane, or if you don't use pronouns, right?

Now we're into forced speech, but it all comes back around to making you unsure of what to think, what you can say, what you can do.

And then what happens?

You don't challenge the government.

You step back.

You withdraw from public and cultural life.

That's at least what they intend.

And you become neurotic chronic fear becomes mass anxiety and you and the wife of a friend of mine is refusing to have children because she's so worried about global warming and which is

tells you

it's it is and i i said to him i said tell her that her child might be the person who fixes that issue for her but it becomes correct you know it this this dynamic and it's not i one last point it's not that fear per se is the issue.

Fear is a gift.

It is meant to be transitory so that you can use your logical and reasonable mind to make a plan.

What the left has done is it has weaponized fear to make it chronic and that you adjust to it and it becomes normal and you just begin to withdraw.

from a whole variety of things, you know, saying who you support for

president or if you listen to Glenn Beck or, you know, what you're willing to say to people.

And that's this book

shows the history of this, that what the fear that we experience in our lives right now is not natural.

It is not organic.

It is not inevitable.

And it can be stopped with some very simple personal action.

Okay, so help me out on that because I think that courage is contagious and we're starting to see it.

That moment where Donald Trump, shot in the head, and if Biden would have done it, I would have said the same thing.

Shot in the head, after especially after everything that he's gone through.

And he says to the Secret Service, wait, wait, wait, wait.

And he stands up and he puts his fist and he says, fight, fight, fight.

That doesn't mean get in the streets and gun people down.

That means fight for what you believe in.

Fight for what you know is true.

And that is the worst thing that could happen

to regimes that want to control people.

And it's so hard, but we're seeing more and more examples come up with, you know, real courage of their convictions that don't have to do it.

You know, it hurts them to do it.

But how do we foster that?

Well, you know,

it is contagious.

The Trump example is perfect.

Not just at the rally, that was a remarkable, life-changing moment for I think everyone.

But what he has withstood with the law fair, but also people who listen to you every day and people who listen to Rush Limbaugh every day are also examples that, look, you can speak your mind.

It is worth doing.

Here are these ideas we can talk about.

You're not alone.

And what it is, besides, you know, recognizing that reaction in yourself, because this is a very weak construct.

Everything the left does is weak.

It's made up.

Talk about cheap fakes.

The left is a cheap fake, and it moves Marxism through.

But in the solution here, and for me, because I've experienced it on personal issues, so we're talking about politics, but there are personal things that we experience.

And many people watching that rally, it was like a switch that went off.

where the moment you see dramatic courage, and Trump mentioned this to a reporter.

He said when he got up from that platform, he knew he'd been finally, he understood he'd been shot in the head.

And he felt the blood and he tasted it.

It was like he knew.

And this could have been his last public utterance when he, but he looked out and he realized the audience had not left him, that there was no stampede.

And that still gives me chills because he said at that point, when I saw they were still there,

And that gave him, he didn't say this, but it's correct.

That gave him courage, right?

That's when he decided, I have to say X.

So there was this

teamwork.

He gave them courage by standing up and by being himself, right?

This is not a, it was essentially Trump.

And when he looked out, that is what generated the fist in the air and the fight, fight, fight, which for me, if you think you might be dead in 30 minutes or shorter, you're going to encourage people to not give up.

And that takes courage, is not giving giving up because of what we face.

Obviously, you think, my God, if he had been killed, what that would have done, and this is what a regime perhaps hopes for, is that even if they didn't have anything to do with it or whatever the things were, it's like, oh, well, that's great news.

And we saw that with some of the left on social media.

It's like, oh, darn it, too bad he missed, right?

Is that this is the kind of thing.

that reminds people of what's at stake.

So for me, the first, I have a series of packs that I write about at the end of the book, is that we make decisions, Glenn, right?

A decision, a genuine decision is powerful and it can change your life.

It's not about thinking about something or entertaining an idea.

It's deciding.

And in this case, the first thing we have to do is decide to not let strangers, like these people in the Democratic Party, not let strangers control what we think of ourselves.

That's first, because that's the gaslighting, That they're telling you you're a bigot, you're white supremacist,

you're a racist.

Now, of course, the new one, you're a transphobe if you think that men shouldn't be in women's sports.

All of it is madness.

And if you can decide, and I've learned this rule being in television, and I'm sure you know this rule,

we care about what people think.

but we are not going to let the lunatics of the world determine what the conversation is or what we think of ourselves.

That's one of five tacts.

And it is about courage.

It's the simple, they want to kill our courage with fear and making you feel there's nothing you can do about it.

It is a house of cards.

It is a lie.

And when you, like, for the book, you know, the moment you realize it, it's amazing.

the transformations that happen.

It's what helped me get out of the left in general and to see other people meeting Rush Limbaugh at a station I was at, KFI in Los Angeles, a conversation with him for two hours changed my life.

Getting to know you makes a difference and continues to make a difference.

So it is the contagiousness of it, but these things unlock doors and you don't know the burden you've been carrying, like fear, until it's off your shoulders and it's liberated.

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Selena, welcome back to the program.

How are you?

Oh, I'm doing fine.

How are you?

I'm good.

So let me ask you,

am I reading the tea leaves right from you that you are seeing things that

might be very encouraging for 2020 or 2024?

Yeah, so

this year seems is very, very similar to 2016.

In fact, I encourage people to read my book, The Great Revolt, not because I wrote it, but basically because it's a blueprint for what's happening right now.

It tells you everything that's happening and why, but makes you understand why.

and how this conservative populist movement sort of began and strengthened.

Everyone said after 2020 that, well, you know, 2016, 2016, Trump was just an outlier.

And I remember writing in 2020 after Biden won, I said, I think the outlier is Biden, not Trump.

And I think that COVID is sort of,

and people's reaction to it is sort of

what made things different.

So anyway, so

why do things seem similar?

Well, I mean,

Vice President Harris is very, very similar to um Hillary Clinton in that she is very disconnected from the very people

that will make this election go for one person or the other.

People that do not live in in Pittsburgh or Philly or New York or DC or Milwaukee, but or Detroit, but the people that live in Vernon County, Wisconsin, or Kenosha, Wisconsin, or that live in Erie County, Pennsylvania, right?

And this election is very much about those voters

and who appeals to them.

And Harris is much further left than either Hillary was.

And I suspect if she doesn't, if there's no change in her, and there cannot be because she is on the record talking about herself, other people are not.

And she will probably do four points worse than Hillary in a state like Pennsylvania.

Wow.

And you're saying, too, that the, I read your article yesterday that lifetime Pennsylvania Democrats are now,

they're not sitting this out.

They're turning and becoming Republicans.

Right.

It's very, very emotionally different to be one party and vote the other party because you're mad at your party, right?

For whatever reason.

It's a very different dynamic if you physically

change your political party because now the sale is complete.

The breakup is complete.

It's not like you broke up a little.

It's not like go back together, break up, go back together.

You're divorced.

Because

the identity of being a Democrat in Pennsylvania, I mean, I mean, well, in Pennsylvania or whatever, these legacy Democrats, people that are born both Catholic and Democrat, right?

It's just, it's such an emotional part of your identity.

It's such an emotional part of who you are because it's what your parents were.

It's what your grandparents were.

And it's very difficult.

And it's not as difficult to vote for a Republican if you're a registered Democrat.

However, it is very difficult to literally change a party.

And are you seeing that just

anecdotally?

Or

is

it?

What is giving you the impression this is happening a lot?

So I use just one woman as an example because she has such a powerful story to tell Shirley Hall.

I hope people go and read the story.

They can just...

find me on Twitter at Zito Selena.

But, you know,

Shirley Hall I used as an example, but the massive movement of Democrats changing to Republicans in Pennsylvania in the past eight years has been,

I would have never, even I would have never predicted it.

Because it is common to, you know, vote for someone else and stay your party.

But for you to make that emotional decision is very, very different.

And I think that the Democrats had a 600,000

vote over registration than Republicans in 2022, right after that election.

And that is now whittled down to under 300,000.

Wow.

That's big.

So what is it?

That is really big.

I cannot, and it's happening in counties that will swing the election.

Look, the election is not going to be decided by Allegheny County where Pittsburgh is or Philadelphia County where Philly is.

Those numbers essentially stay right about the same.

They're maxed out.

Where it is decided is in the margins in the small counties, Blair County, Erie County, Cambria County, you know, 500, 600, 1,000 more votes.

That changes the entire election.

So what is it that is making people say, I...

I've got to switch parties.

Is there one event, one thing, or is it a series?

What are you hearing?

It is a series of things.

Mostly, you know, people in these areas,

you know, like where President Trump did his rally in Butler,

nobody goes to Butler County.

Nobody.

Nobody goes to Butler County, not Republicans or Democrats.

Donald Trump does.

It makes them feel seen.

It makes their concerns feel seen.

All of a sudden, you start feeling very, very different

about who has your back.

And the coalitions of the parties have also changed.

Democrats were always the party of the working class since the New Deal coalition was formed under FDR.

And Republicans were the party of the elites, the country club.

Those changed dramatically beginning in 2006.

Ironically, when the Republicans lost the House and Senate that year, but you saw when Republicans voted for Democrats that year, they voted for Democrats who were conservative.

So they were mad at both parties and

they wanted to stick it to the Republicans.

And so this evolution has been going on for

about

10 years, eight years, or no, 20 years, almost, 18 years.

But,

you know, it's not listening to the voters.

It's not hearing the voters.

It's belittling the voters.

And it's a large part, as I talked about in my book, that pressure hasn't just come from politics, it's come from our cultural curators, institutions, academia, big government, the media,

all corporations,

the NFL.

They all are located their headquarters in the super zip codes that where the most wealthy and the most powerful live in Washington and New York.

They're very disconnected from the people

who buy their tickets to their movies, who buy their music, who sit in their seats, who buy their, you know, their beer, right?

They all, you know, know they're they're all, it's sort of this like incestuous group.

And I'm not saying they're bad.

They just don't know the people that they serve, including their schools and including our government.

I have argued forever that the RNC should be located in Columbus, Ohio and not Washington, D.C.

Right?

Like all these,

all these large institutions need to decentralize because they have lost touch with the people that buy their products or who they serve.

And so that has impacted our politics.

Let me play something from Chuck Schumer just a couple of days ago, where he was announcing

Kamala Harris.

Listen to what he said here.

So now that the process is played out, from the grassroots bottom up, we are here today to throw our support behind Vice President Kamala Harris.

I'm clapping.

Stop.

Don't have to.

Nobody applauds.

All right.

So he says, from the grassroots up, the process has worked from the grassroots up.

Making people, trying to convince people that this was something that the average person voted for or wanted.

Are any Democrats a little disgusted by they were told to sit down, shut up, you can't have a primary, when they wanted a different person.

And now it's too late and now they're just trying to make it look like everybody's for Kamala Harris and it's all good and this is the way democracy works.

Yeah, no, this is not the grassroots up.

I mean, the amount of, I keep singing that song, even though I don't particularly care for them anymore, the Dixie chicks, and I know know they took Dixie off, whatever, but the song gaslighting, right?

Like it just keeps playing over in my head.

And, you know, the assumption that they believe that voters are stupid, this is stupid.

You know, I mean, you know, if you earnestly love Joe Biden,

And you earnestly worked really hard volunteering, you know, being at the polling, whatever, throughout the entire primary process, as well into this general election season.

And then you're being told that someone you never voted for, who's never earned a vote, is that this was all orchestrated by the elites, and there's no way to put lipstick on this peg.

So

you started by saying, you know, that Joe Biden was the outlier.

Are we at a place yet, Selena?

And I love you because you know history.

Are we at the place where Woodrow Wilson got to, where he scared the American people so

badly about progressivism that they had to change their name and go undercover and become liberals and take that seat?

Are we at that place to where this is about to turn on them hard for a long period of time?

Well, you know,

we are polarized, okay?

However, I do believe this is going to be a transformational election cycle.

So I wonder how much that polarization shifts.

I think the person

and the people who change that polarization more so

will be the Democrats and not the Republicans because of what they're trying to force their voters to buy into.

And so I do think there is,

it's beyond a realignment.

right we've already realigned i think um there is that we are going to see a temporary stay of of uh democrats move to the republicans um because of the way this was handled so heavy-handedly

yeah

selena thank you always as always you're great really appreciate it thank you selena

selena zito uh dear friend and uh somebody one of the reporters the only reporters that i think you can really trust there's a handful of them out there but selena is on top of my list because she actually talks to people, not institutions.

Selenazito.com is her web address.

You can follow her at Selena Zeto,

or Zito Selena on Twitter.

And the book that she was talking about, she wrote in 2016 called The Great Revolt.

It is well worth your read.

Selena Zito.

Charlie Sheen is an icon of decadence.

I lit the fuse and my life turns into everything it wasn't supposed to be.

He's going the distance.

He was the highest paid TV star of all time.

When it started to change, it was quick.

He kept saying, no, no, no, I'm in the hospital now, but next week I'll be ready for the show.

Now, Charlie's sober.

He's going to tell you the truth.

How do I present this with any class?

I think we're past that, Charlie.

We're past that, yeah.

Somebody call action.

Yeah.

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