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Well, hello, America, and welcome to Friday.

And what a Friday broadcast we have for you today.

We're going to go over everything about the election, everything about

Donald Trump's speech last night, and my theory on why he only mentioned Joe Biden one time.

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So last night, the president came out to speak, Donald Trump, at the convention.

And we haven't had a chance to talk.

Thank you, Stu and Pat, for filling in for me the last couple of days.

I had to have some surgery on

kidney stones, which, oh,

man,

that's a fun ride.

But so thanks for filling in.

But

I've been watching the convention this week, and it is the best convention I have seen.

And I think it was better than the Reagan conventions.

And those were pretty good.

This had everything you needed in the Republican convention.

It had all of the right people speaking, I thought, all the way through the week.

If people spent the time and watched it, actually listened to it, they saw a very different party than what they have ever seen before.

At least I did.

And last night, a very, very different Donald Trump.

I've never seen him like this.

I've never heard him speak this way.

I've never seen him

take the stage the way he did.

He

was humbled.

And I think, you know, he pushed back on the crowd, or the crowd pushed back on him.

Halfway through the speech, he said, you know, I was was not supposed to be here tonight i'm not supposed to be here and they started chanting uh yes you were yes you were and uh he said no i wasn't an assassin wanted me gone and uh i wasn't supposed to address you today but god saved my life and it was not a moment of uh boasting It was a moment, I thought, of clarity.

Now, there's something else that happened that I haven't heard a lot of people talk about.

In fact, I haven't heard anybody talk about this yet.

And I think it's very, very telling.

Donald Trump has

kind of shifted gears into

this zone of,

I know what I know, I know what I feel, and

I know who the other side is.

And they're dismissed.

He's not fighting them like he was before.

Now, that doesn't mean that he's not fighting.

The one thing about Donald Trump is he's a fighter.

But it's almost as if he feels that the outcome is already there

and he doesn't need to

push the envelope anymore.

He just needs to say the truth.

And

so he came out quiet, humbled.

He did

about 30 minutes of just riveting material that he wrote himself.

He tore tore up the speech, wrote this speech himself, which is also not Donald Trump.

He usually will add lib.

He doesn't usually write

his own material, but he wrote the first 20 minutes and probably the last 20 minutes as well.

The rest of it was kind of a stump speech, but

he

came out humbled and told the story of the assassination.

He said at one point

Joe Biden's name, and at one point when he said it, he said, I'm only going to say this once.

And he talked about telling the story of the assassination and said, it's too painful, so I won't tell this story again.

You'll hear it the first and last time from me tonight.

When he brought up Joe Biden, do you remember the context, Stu, on when he first brought brought up Joe Biden and then apologized and said,

I'm not going to say his name anymore?

Yeah, he was talking about the 10 worst presidents of all time and how all of them added up together wouldn't cut to Joe Biden.

And that's when he said his name.

Right, right.

And he said, you know,

I didn't want it to be unclear who that president was that was worse than the 10 worst combined.

He said, but I'm not going to mention his name anymore.

And

to me, that may be lowering the temperature a little bit.

I think that's one way to read it.

But I think more importantly,

I think he strategically

is now looking at

the fact that Joe Biden's not going to be the nominee.

I just don't believe he's going to be the nominee.

And

it's only a matter of time.

And Donald Trump, why waste his hour of television, or in his case, 90 minutes of television, making a case against a guy who's not going to be running.

And that's why he kept saying, they,

they made these things, this administration did this, and did not say Donald Trump, or it did not say Joe Biden, and did not say Kamala Harris.

Now, that, the Kamala Harris thing,

I think is because he just doesn't know if Kamala is the one running.

And

why look back at the people who are so far behind you at this particular point?

But the hopeful side of me says that he didn't mention Kamala because he knows it's going to be Michelle Obama.

And I only say hopeful because Stu will owe me, I think it's four grand, isn't it, Stu?

Three.

It's definitely three.

It's 100% three.

Three.

And even that with inflation, I don't even know if we can really count three thousand.

I think we should probably lower.

I don't know.

We'll talk about that.

It should be five, yeah.

Because three just isn't what it was, you know, six months ago when we made this bet.

I will say thank God for Biden inflation because by the time I pay this bet off, it will be worth nothing.

$3,000 will be like a loaf of bread.

We won't be able to buy a sandwich.

No.

We won't.

We won't.

All right.

So there's

a couple of stories here that explain the speech.

The first one is the New York Times.

And the New York Times, Trump, in RNC speech, struggles to turn page on the past.

Well, it's a little difficult, you know, when the past involved assassination attempts.

You know, a little difficult there.

Donald J.

Trump has been a man long undone by himself.

He imperiled his presidency in political campaigns with personal grudges, impulsiveness, and an appetite for authoritarianism.

You know, it's really strange how they keep seeing authoritarianism in Donald Trump when he's not done anything authoritarian.

I mean, he might say, you know, we should go after the press and take away their license until he's reminded they don't have a license and

he wasn't serious in the first place.

Lock her up until he wasn't serious in the first place.

I can't find the authoritarian streak in him myself on anything that he's actually done.

And then they say also he's caused himself problems for his his casual approach to the rule of law.

Now, Stu,

out of he who shall not be named and Donald Trump, which one has the casual approach to the rule of law?

I don't know.

Should we go over the latest court to overturn his student loan debacle?

I know.

I know.

I read that this morning in the New York Times after reading the casual approach to the rule of law.

And then, you know, the next story is, oh, another court said you can't do that with student loans.

He just keeps trying to go around the law over and over again.

The court overturned his latest attempt at student loans.

The same day, he announced another attempt for, I think, $1.5 billion of student loan relief.

I mean, he is addicted to giving away money to these people.

It's incredible.

His

unwillingness to accept electoral electoral defeat and his actions that have resulted in $83 million in penalties, nearly three dozen felony convictions, and additional legal trouble ahead.

I mean, that's how they start.

And I mean, you've got to be...

I mean, you're just under the spell of witchcraft

if

you buy into any of that.

But on Thursday night, with his right ear still bandaged five days after he was wounded by a would-be assassin's bullet.

Okay, can we talk about that for a second, Stu?

Sure.

The bandage.

What they're trying to say here is he didn't need the bandage.

Do you think he needed the bandage still?

Yes.

My guess is that his ear looks pretty funky right now, and he doesn't necessarily want to walk out of stage.

Yeah, I was actually hoping that he would take off the bandage because I think his ear probably looks worse.

He lost the top of his ear.

And, you know, that's kind of a,

you know, you have to be, I mean, there's, there's conspiracies throwing around.

Now, a third of Democrats believe that he set this up with the with the Secret Service.

What, to have his ear blown off?

I mean, how delusional do you have to be?

First of all, he's not the guy who's got the in with the Secret Service and, you know, the spy agencies and everything else.

The conspiracy doesn't, it falls apart pretty quickly, you know?

Yeah, it's not rational by any means.

And it's, this is something, Glenn, you see in polling every single time.

If there is a conspiracy theory about your political opponent, about a third of people will believe it no matter what it is.

That is like, now you can get higher than that.

The Democrats, about 50% of them believed 9-11 was an inside job when George W.

Bush was president.

You can find numbers that get higher, but like the baseline number for a conspiracy theory against your political opponent is about a third.

It just, it just is.

It's people, a lot of people just taking the position they think hurts their opponent more than them actually believing it, I hope.

But there are a lot of people.

I mean, Joy Reed is on television every single day

talking about this stuff.

I mean, they threw poor Joe Scarborough off the air.

What did they think this guy was going to say?

I mean, what do they think of Joe Scarborough if they leave Joy Reed on the air?

I never thought of it that way.

It's amazing.

That's exactly right.

Yeah.

So here, let me just switch gears here.

Joy Reed posted a video of herself working through a bizarre conspiracy theory suggesting that the Secret Service helped Donald Trump to create the defiant photo image from the shooting.

She noted the Biden campaign released a lot of detailed medical information about his condition within minutes of the announcement that he had contracted COVID-19 again.

But when it comes to what happened on Saturday with former President Donald Trump, this assassination attempt, we know almost nothing about his medical condition.

Bum bum bum.

How come no one has any information about this wound?

We still don't know for sure whether Donald Trump was hit by a bullet or whether he was hit by glass fragments, whether he was hit by shrapnel.

We don't have any of those details.

Glass fragments?

Where were the glass fragments from?

Was that the teleprompter that they say was hit?

There was an initial report.

I don't remember who reported it, but there was a report that it was glass fragments, and it wasn't even a liberal reporter.

I remember reading it and being like, what?

Like, what are you talking about?

And then about five minutes later, you could see pictures of it where both of the teleprompters are still fully intact.

I mean, it was a crazy theory that was debunked immediately, but people like Joy Reed, who are impossibly stupid, continue to believe it.

And we have a picture, unlike anything I've ever seen, a picture of the bullet in flight as it's about to hit his head.

I mean,

it's incredible.

Yeah, I think it's actually just.

Could have been a fly, a really big mosquito.

We don't know.

We don't know.

Yeah, I think the picture is just after it passes his head.

But yes, I mean, it is

about as I mean, it's one of the most incredible photos ever taken.

And the photographer who took it has basically the most impossible photo you can take.

And it's still not the iconic photo of the incident, which is like kind of a...

I mean, you go through the...

You caught a bullet in your picture, and still, like, somebody else got the picture of him standing up with his fist up with the blood streaming down his face, which is still the iconic photo of that day.

But yeah, I mean, it is so stupid.

They believe everything.

They believe that, you know, the bandage is fake, that he didn't actually get injured.

Like, I don't know.

I thought it was glass that hit him.

Now he didn't get injured at all.

Doesn't need the bandage.

I mean, it's just everything they come up with is dumber and dumber.

They're just crazy, really, truly crazy about him.

It's just, like, they lose all reason.

And for Joy Reed to be on the air on MSNBC is remarkable.

And not because they should fire her because of her points of view.

I don't believe in that.

Just because she's dumb as a box of rocks, man.

Yeah.

She's crazy.

She is crazy.

To be fair, I don't think Joy Reed has lost all reason.

She just didn't have it at any point.

So it's impossible to lose for her in particular.

All right.

Okay.

All right.

How about Alex Wagner?

I don't know if you heard the latest from her on MSNBC,

but

this was kind of bizarre as well,

what this theory is.

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We are so glad that you're here.

We're looking for answers on what is happening.

I'm Glenn Beck, along today with Pat and Stu, who are joining me.

And we're just kind of discussing today all of the different aspects of the convention.

Well, first, Stu, remind me to get back to NBC's Alex Wagner and the theory on Pence.

Have you guys read this yet?

The Pence theory?

No, I haven't heard anything about Pence.

Not Pence, Vance.

Oh, no, the Vance theory.

Okay, no, I'm not, I don't know what you were saying.

Listen to this.

Okay.

The Republican vice presidential nomination included J.D.

Vance,

and he dropped an Easter egg of white nationalism.

An Easter egg.

I ended up quoting, I know there was not the same red meat sort of blood and soil nationalism you might hear in, I don't know, other parallel universe Republican conventions.

So now we're into parallel universes.

But I do think there were sort of Easter eggs of white nationalism in his speech.

One of the things that stuck out to me was when he started talking about what America is.

He said America's not just an idea.

It's a group of people with a shared history and a common future.

The thing about America is it's not a group of people with shared history.

In fact, I think a lot of people would argue it's quite the opposite.

It's a lot of people with different histories and different heritages.

Oh my gosh.

And then she goes into how he wants to be buried in Kentucky, but not in San Diego, where his wife's foreign parents are from.

And it's like, are you?

I mean, these people have literally gone insane.

Literally gone insane.

Again, gone is an interesting way.

I don't know that they were ever sane, right?

Like, was there ever a moment of sanity that I may have missed that show that they put on?

Yeah.

But yeah, it's interesting.

And I, here's the thing.

And I don't know if you guys feel this way, but I'm just going to throw this theory out here for a second.

While I, of course, mock them relentlessly for these crazy theories.

and honestly, some people on the right are coming up with crazy theories, and I mock them a little bit as well.

I just feel like everybody comes up with crazy theories.

At least that's how I would normally react in this situation.

This particular story, though, is so bonkers.

It's so hard to believe that they just were like, ah, I guess let's leave that roof unattended.

Like, these things are so crazy that I give a little bit more grace on conspiracy theories here than I normally would.

Do you buy that, Glenn?

Yeah, but that one at least makes sense, doesn't it?

Pat?

I mean, the one, we didn't go up on that roof because it had a slant to it.

I mean, you want to talk about safety first.

Holy cow.

It had a slant to it.

Yeah, like a three-degree gray.

And forget the fact that it had a slope.

What about, I don't know, station somebody at the ladder that leads to the roof.

Could you do that?

You're so worried about

your agents

not being able to stand or sit or lay on that slope that

you wanted them inside the building instead, but you couldn't put somebody out where the ladder is that leads to the roof.

Kind of

insanity.

Yeah.

And I don't know if you guys saw this, but

the New York Times had a video they put out of

this whole incident.

And they showed the two pairs of snipers

from the Secret Service or police on the two buildings.

One of the sniper teams was set up in a position in which a tree blocked that building.

This is why the farther away sniper team is actually the one with a successful shot.

But, like, why on earth would you set up in a position in which there is a tree in between you and the one elevated position in the entire field?

Like, I just, it's impossible.

Because we have Sniper Sam and Sniper Sid, right?

Sniper Sid, you're there, right, With the Secret Service.

I'm there with Sniper Sam and Cyper Sid.

I mean, bizarre.

Who's running that place?

Who's running that place?

And then the other one that, you know,

just gets me is they're not talking about a conspiracy of

COVID.

He's got COVID.

Come on, how many times has that guy had COVID?

I don't know anybody who has COVID anymore and is like, oh, I'm just wiped out with COVID.

I just can't handle it.

I think that guy could die in his sleep in the next week.

It's like, you know,

he'll have to decide if he's going to die or not.

He's going to have to decide, will he drink

the medicine that we give him every night or not?

Because it'll be his decision.

I mean, I just think that.

You know,

they're serious about getting rid of him.

And to add to this, it was immediately after an interview he gave in which for the first time he opened up the possibility of stepping down for a health crisis.

Like, it was, it was literally the last thing he did before the COVID isolation was to say, you know, yeah, I mean, if a big health crisis came along, well, then he went and, excuse me, then he went and got into people's faces at a Mexican restaurant and gave them all COVID.

But after that, he went into isolation.

I mean, it is.

Every single story is impossible to believe.

That's where we are.

So what happens from here?

Pat,

what do you, I mean, I think that there is a real chance.

Remember, Abraham Lincoln was elected the nominee by the Republican Party on the 50th ballot.

And that's when they all just started going crazy.

And they're like, I don't know, the guy with a ward on his face.

And I could see that happening with Michelle Obama.

They go through.

and they're just doing an open convention and they can't decide on somebody and there's somebody's like, Michelle Obama.

And everybody's like, yay.

And the next ballot, Michelle Obama wins, and she's drafted.

I mean, I just think that's so plausible.

Except, I don't think she's going to run.

She doesn't want it.

She does not want it.

She hates this country too much to do that kind of work.

She loves her life too much to do that kind of work.

But if the hatred of the country is a big feature, which I think is

a reason to do it.

Yes.

But

the other aspect is how much she loves the life of a $100 million deal from Netflix and all the fruits of that deal and the life they're living now.

She doesn't want to give that up.

And I think we can all realize that she deserves that life and she continues.

She does.

She should continue to enjoy it for ever, Stu.

There's no reason to get involved in politics, Michelle.

You're above this now.

Stu just didn't want to lose the $6,000 bet.

Six?

What do you keep inflating this?

It's three, and you know it's it's three.

It's Biden inflation.

I don't want to keep going up, but it's Biden inflation.

I think very much you do at this point.

And we're at the point almost where I can't win the bet.

That's the problem because I had it as Biden would be on the ticket and you had Michelle.

And there is this in-between ground where Biden steps down and it's Kamala Harris and neither of us win.

And we're getting into that ground right now and it does not make me comfortable.

Yeah.

You know what's amazing to me is that if you look at this with Michelle Obama, what you just said,

she loves her lifestyle too much.

She hates America so much, but she loves her lifestyle more than she hates America, so she would never do it.

Okay.

Look at Donald Trump.

He's got an amazing lifestyle.

They've destroyed it.

They've destroyed his family.

They've hauled him in front of court after court after court.

And then they shoot him.

And he still

up on the stage and says, I'm running because we got to stop this insanity.

I mean,

which one?

Big difference.

Yeah, what a difference.

Yeah.

It does look like, I'm sure you guys mentioned this earlier.

It does look like this weekend might be it, though, for the Biden campaign.

I don't know.

That's what they're saying.

And there's a pretty detailed, where did I see this?

It's, I don't know, MSNBC, I think.

No, it was Newsmax.

It was Newsmax.

They were talking about this really detailed plan now to open up the convention and bring in Kamala Harris, and she's already pre-approved her running mate, supposedly.

And

also, there would be Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer.

And those are the three that are going to battle it out on the floor at the convention.

I know.

You know,

I think it goes right to Kamala Harris, honestly,

which is not an exciting opportunity for the Democrats.

But this is that sort of plan is the type of thing that could lead to Glenn winning this stupid bet, which I never agreed to,

which is that

Glenn,

that you have those three fighting it out.

It gets so ugly, no one can make a decision, and then Michelle comes in over the top and says, oh, here I am.

She comes down from the sky with like clouds and light beams.

And people are like, look at those arms.

Look at her arms.

Look at those arms.

They need to be in the Oval Office, those arms.

That's the only place they can live.

And then she winds up coming in over the top and just wiping all of this out and winning.

I still think it's a long shot for it to happen, but there is some scenario where it gets so chaotic they need something like that.

But I will say, I mentioned this to Glenn, I think off the air, Glenn.

I don't know if we've talked about it on the air yet today.

I'm very confused.

It was a very late night last night.

But all of the reporting about the Biden stuff, about him stepping down this weekend,

is all nonsense.

It's all like one headline from the New York Times yesterday was:

Biden now is warming to the belief that he may have to step down.

That isn't saying anything.

What do you mean he's warming to the May?

This is like one of those old school Al Gore statements that's filled with so many disclaimers.

It doesn't mean anything about the climate.

It's just like, it's all this stuff.

It's all leaked by Nancy Pelosi.

She wants him out, so she's leaking every negative thing about him.

His own people inside, like his close advisors that everyone says are the people that are around him are all saying this stuff is all fake.

It's just all included in the paragraph, like paragraph 12 of these stories that are just Nancy Pelosi's screeds against this guy.

And the New York Times wants him out, and the Washington Post wants him out, and MSNBC wants him out, and CNN wants him out, so they're just all running with it.

I mean, he may very well get pushed out by all this pressure.

It may work, but like, they have a plan.

It is very consistent with what the left does when they want an outcome, which is lie and leak and then force the person out with the pressure.

I don't know that he'll survive this.

Almost nobody can.

I can't remember a politician who's survived this much pressure.

The only one I can remember is Rod Boglojevich.

Well, Trump is a good example.

That's a good example, actually, because Trump, they hit him with everything, but it was opposition pressure, right?

It was, well, there was

no Boglojevich was hit

in his state and by everybody to the point that he got to a 4% approval rating, 4.

It's the lowest I've ever seen of any.

I think Jeffrey Epstein might have five, right?

Like 4% is about as low as I've ever seen for a public figure.

And he's just

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It was.

Oh, people.

No.

No.

Oh, that's just wrong.

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It is just bizarre.

I've never seen anything like this where really, truly anything could happen.

The president of the United States could die from COVID.

He could be forcibly removed by his own party.

He could decide that he's in, but they tell him that, yeah, no, you're at the convention.

Just do your acceptance speech.

You know, he's in his bedroom or something and has no idea where he is.

I love the fact that they're saying that he has to stop running, but that doesn't mean he has to stop being president.

He's just too incapable of running.

That's amazing.

Really, it's the reverse.

In a way, it's the reverse, right?

Like

he shouldn't be president right now because there's massive questions about whether this guy can do the job.

At some point, you can theoretically argue you put him on the ballot, and at least the American people can judge for themselves after that, right?

Like there's no argument to say he should stay in there, but he can't campaign.

That is impossibly stupid.

I keep waiting for Barack Obama to make a public announcement on this.

And when that happens, that will be the definitive answer, I think.

You think?

Yeah.

If he tells him, if he says,

yeah, Barack knows that we've got to change our history and our traditions.

And if he says that Joe Biden can't run, Joe Biden won't run.

You know, Biden, all the reporting was when Biden wanted to run in 2016, it was Barack who basically chose Hillary over him, right?

Over his own vice president.

Everybody says, and you never know.

You can't get in these people's minds, but everybody says inside the Biden camp that he really resents that and does not look at Obama as this like wonderful figure.

They have this tight tie.

He's more angry about how he should have been president in 2016 and not have to wait until 2020.

I don't know.

I mean, there are at least some people inside the Biden camp are saying the more Obama speaks out publicly, the more he's going to dig his heels in because he's angry.

That would surprise me still.

They hate each other.

They hate each other.

I think that's probably true.

That's probably true.

Anybody knows?

But like, you know, that's the thing.

If someone you hate is telling you to do something and trying to force you publicly to do it, don't you resist that?

Stand strong, Joe.

You can do this.

Fight through.

Don't listen to Nancy Pelosi.

You're the president.

We believe in you.

And I'd have to tell you, Obama called me last night.

Boy, he hates you.

He says you're so weak that you're going to fold like a bag of chips.

Oh, my gosh.

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I'm joined with Pat and Stu today as we talk about everything political, all the convention this week.

I thought it was absolutely incredible.

We'll get into that.

And what is happening to Joe Biden and the Democrats.

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So we welcome Pat and Stu to the program as

we talk about the speech last night.

It was,

you know, I didn't watch anybody else's coverage.

This is the first time I didn't watch Fox News.

I didn't watch,

I didn't watch ABC, NBC, CBS first time in my life because I just didn't want to hear what they had to say quite honestly

you know and I saw some clips from the other networks and they immediately were like

you know he says he wants to unite America but how can we unite America when we don't look like each other I'm black, he's not.

How it is there to unite on it?

And it's like, oh my gosh, you people, just shut up, will you?

Did you guys watch the coverage on other networks?

No, and I thought it was part of the low-key brilliance of Trump doing a very long speech in that everyone just went to bed the second it was over if you lasted through it.

Like no one was staying up to hear the left-wing nonsense that happened afterward.

But yeah, I feel like you've heard everything they could say about Trump, right?

I mean, they just

said the same things over and over and over.

It's just not interesting.

anymore, like it ever was, but it's especially uninteresting now.

Because, yeah, we've heard it.

We get it.

You don't like the guy.

I got it.

Yeah.

I think it was the New York Times that came out with a piece right around

the time of the speech.

And it was like, here's the vision of Donald Trump's America in 2025.

It's dark.

It's dangerous.

It's threatening.

Everything he did before is just building to a much bigger movement.

And I'm like, this is five days after he was shot on stage that they're releasing yet another vision of this man

who wants a fascist theocracy in this country.

And

there was, Glenn, what happened to the

week, two weeks, three weeks you're supposed to get after someone gets shot where you're not calling them a fascist?

Like that there was no

honeymoon period at all for Donald Trump after this, was there?

No.

It was truly amazing.

And for

no one in the mainstream media to really

notice the profound difference in Donald Trump and in that convention.

Van Jones, do we have the clip of Van Jones from yesterday

when he was talking about how he has seen this one other time before?

Play that.

This spirit that this guy has, you guys think this guy's he's drunk.

He's not.

This whole thing is like this.

And what?

Hey, look, hey, guys, the last time I was in a convention that felt like this was Obama 2008.

There's something happening here.

You just wrote a headline.

You just wrote a headline, but that can't happen.

Just like Obama, and just like Obama, Trump is showing in this convention he has the capacity to alter the composition of the electorate.

That's pretty amazing.

That's CNN.

And

if you watched any of it, I mean, I have to tell you,

kudos to the Trump family, because the Trump family really orchestrated this whole thing and Donald Trump,

you know, tore up all the plans right after the assassination attempt.

And

it was truly remarkable how they hit on everything that I thought was important.

They hit on the economy and they talked about people.

And it didn't feel like the usual, you know, I was in the supermarket and Jane, a mother of four was there and she said apples the price of apples how can I sell apples on the street for 10 cents when they cost me $435 an apple it it didn't feel like those fakey things it was real

when you had the 13

Marines parents up on stage and they were talking and it wasn't about politics it was about

my son, my daughter died, and the president didn't even recognize my son or daughter's loss of life, still says that they weren't even killed.

And you heard these people, the Teamsters guy, I never thought I would see a Teamster leader on stage at a Republican convention.

But when he's up there saying, look, this is just, it's killing us.

What's happening is killing us.

And the Teamsters are not with the Democrats anymore.

It was just story after story after story that was so relatable, so well crafted, so well told that, and the people at the convention

were happy.

It was

strangely, after an assassination attempt, everybody found their happy place.

And it was this joyous celebration of what could be.

And I just hats off to the Trump organization and the RNC.

I've never seen, they can screw anything up.

And this is the first time I kept waiting for the shoe to drop,

and it never did.

It just never did.

Would you say that they were able to accomplish what can be unburdened by what has been?

Is that what you would say?

I think that's really, I mean, gosh, that is so profound.

Can't you say that again, like 40 times?

Because that's so good.

Now, I hear Kamala speaking of Kamala that she is

now vetting possible running mates.

Don't know if that's true or not, but I hope she sticks with what she knows and she gets the driver of, you know, the one that makes the wheels on the bus go round and round.

Oh,

I know.

Because who doesn't love

a yellow school bus?

Everybody loves that.

I love yellow school buses.

I just love them.

Oh, my gosh.

Can you imagine if she is the nominee, what her address is going to sound like?

Oh, she'll be like talking to us like we're all four.

It will be better.

We just don't understand inflation.

It will be hilarious.

It will be hilarious and bad.

I will say it will be better than anything that Joe Biden can accomplish.

And this is the thing with Kamala Harris.

She's terrible, but she does solve by far the Democrats' largest problem, which is Joe Biden's age.

And, you know, it's three and a half months until this election still.

It feels so good right now, but man,

I do worry about changing any dynamic in this race.

That's why Joe Biden needs to continue to fight because he really deserves the nomination.

He wanted it's democracy.

Millions of people voted for him and all the things.

But do you worry at all, Glenn?

I mean, are we at a point of such confidence and hubris that three and a half months back later, we might look back and be terrified as to what we have created?

Oh my gosh, three months we could look back and say, do you remember when we didn't have nuclear winter?

Anything could happen in three months.

Anything could happen.

Remember when we weren't all getting a rectal probe from aliens?

That was great.

Remember when the only aliens we had to worry about were the ones coming over the border, not from outer outer space?

I mean, anything could happen.

So,

you know, I don't know, but I will tell you that what people in the press should not dismiss is the actual change of countenance of Donald Trump.

Yeah, the tone last night was unbelievable.

That's good.

Unbelievably good.

All week.

And he

last night, you know, speaking of illegals, he told the story of victims of criminal illegals.

But the other thing he did that I absolutely loved was he stopped and he said, you know, as Americans, as Republicans, and most Democrats, we want people to come to this country, but we want them to do it legally.

I mean, that's the way we should have handled this from the

beginning.

Yeah, he projected strength in all of the right places

and humility.

I mean,

when was the last time you heard

Donald Trump say, in all humility, I ask?

He did that three times last night in his speech.

In all

humility, I ask for

your vote.

I come here humbled as a humbled man.

It was pretty incredible.

His tone has changed.

And where he was strong was,

This war in Ukraine will be over the minute I get in office.

And he said it, and he was pretty believable.

When he said

those hostages need to be released before I enter office or you will regret it.

I believed him.

When he said at the same time, we're going to end these endless wars.

We're not going to keep going into all of these wars all over and we're going to stop paying for wars for other people.

Again, I believed him.

And then on the compassion side, when he was talking about people, you could, I mean, that, that piece with the fireman's uniform of the firefighter who just, you know, covered his, his daughters and, and died for it,

that was

a,

just an iconic moment.

There are several things that are happening now that are going to be imprinted in the national psyche that will change us entirely.

Just like, you know, when Obama was giving his speeches at the convention and the things that he did, and the things that he and his wife said about, you know, we're going to fundamentally transform America.

That

was a moment that told you what direction we were going in.

And I think this week has been another one of those moments that really

quietly announced the end of all this nonsense.

We're just going to dismiss it.

We're moving past.

Everybody's done with it.

Everybody knows.

It's just time to move on.

And I like that because

I think that's the attitude of God.

He's not surprised by any of these things.

When he's had enough, he's just had enough.

And he's like, we're moving on.

Don't worry about him.

Satan over there, yeah, he's a clown.

I got him.

I got him.

Don't worry about him.

You just do what you're supposed to do.

And I kind of got that feeling from the message from the convention that

we're just going to do what we have to do because we all know.

We all know.

And these clowns are going to blow themselves up eventually.

I mean, they look at what they're doing.

In 1968, the convention in Chicago changed.

the country.

It changed the country.

It ended the madness of the 1960s.

Within a year, all of that stuff was dead.

Okay.

And what looked like it was going to take over the country, 1968, 1969, that was it.

In 69 was Altamont, and that was the last draw for America.

Done.

And I think we're entering that period right now.

And this convention and this attempted assassination is

what heralded the ending of all of this stuff.

Now, that's hopeful, but I really think it feels right to me.

Does it to you guys?

If it can be maintained, yes, I think you're right.

I think it's the right tone.

I think there's an eye-opening moment here for Donald Trump where he no longer is looking at like a 51-49 type victory where he squeaks out Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania and is able to get back into the White House.

We're now looking at something that could be wider than that, right?

You could see a situation where maybe Trump wins Virginia.

Maybe Trump wins New Hampshire.

Maybe this is the type of thing that is a little bit more like Obama versus McCain, like the type of thing with a real mandate and he sees that in front of himself.

And I don't know, Pat, do you think it just is that turning on the discipline or is it just the fact that he just got shot on stage that has just changed him?

I don't know.

Probably a little bit of both.

Yeah, definitely.

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What is it that we haven't completed here on

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This piece written by Chris Bedford, he's one of the writers of the Blaze.

He went through all the examples of how quickly the left jumped right back into saying, essentially, this guy is Hitler and is going to ruin all of your lives.

There was almost no break.

I thought we'd get a week.

I feel completely naive for thinking we'd get a week of people actually reflecting on what had happened.

Do you guys remember in our prayers, we used to pray every morning when we were in New York out loud with each other?

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We get back to it here in just a few minutes, but I want to take

a back seat here for just a second and talk to you about something that I've been working on for a couple of years that

its success or failure will be dependent really on you.

I have been taking art lessons for, I don't know, five, six years, and

have gotten to know some great artists.

And my art teacher said to me as I was trying to say, I just wanted to paint landscapes because it took my mind off of everything.

And as she was teaching me and I would paint, she would say, Tell me a story.

And I would tell her a story of something.

And she said, when I finished that landscape, she said, that should be the last landscape you ever do.

She said, you have all so many great American stories.

You should paint stories.

And we started talking about how our artists no longer tell stories.

You know, it's kind of like, you know, Hilton Hotel art.

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it's hard to find things of meaning that you want to have in your home.

And so we started working with 30 of some of the best artists alive today in America and a few of them from overseas that just love America.

And we started taking them through the museum that I have, where we have a massive collection of,

you know, of American history.

And we wanted these artists to go through and find something that really inspired them, a story from American history that they wanted to paint and that they wanted to bring to life.

And we are doing a show at my studio.

It'll be the first time we open up the studios since for a very long time.

And it is called the American Narratives in Fine Art.

And it is going to be a combination of paintings and historic artifacts.

And there's not going to be any experts there to judge it and say, oh, well, look at the brushstrokes.

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But one of the greatest living artists, I believe, in today's world, if I had an unlimited amount of cash and I could buy anybody, everything this man's ever done, I would.

His name is Thomas Blackshear.

He is the Norman Rockwell of our day.

In fact, he's just been

inducted into the Illustrators, American Illustrators Hall of Fame, which Dean Cornwell, all these great, great, you know, Winslow Homer are in the Hall of Fame.

He's a living artist and he's incredible the way he tells stories.

And he called this week.

He's doing a couple of things.

He's doing Charlie Chaplin.

uh based on we have his cane um he's we have the props the the 10 commandment props that you will see from the movie he's doing this amazing painting of charlton heston as moses um And he called and he said, look, I know this isn't political.

He said, but

I want to pray on this, but I wanted to know if I could paint the iconic picture of Trump getting back up off the ground with his fist.

And I said, Thomas, whatever the Lord tells you to do, you are more than welcome to do.

Thomas Blackshear joins me now.

uh to talk about that painting and and uh and this art show welcome thomas how are you thank you so so very much for having me on, Glenn.

Good talking with you.

You bet.

Good talking to you, my friend.

So are you going to do the president's rise back up off the stage?

I plan on still maybe doing a painting like that, but my main thing was trying to make sure I had it in time for your show.

I'm still trying to figure out if I'm going to be able to get that done or not because I am still working on the other three.

So

that's something I, like I said, I will be doing.

It's just a matter of trying to see if I can still get it done on time, and that's what I'm still trying to figure out.

So,

well, I will tell you because some of them are going to go up for auction, and even if it's unfinished, you should bring it because I think

people would pay a good price for that one, Thomas.

I think that is in your style, that's going to be absolutely incredible because it is an iconic moment.

So, tell me the stories that attracted you that you wanted to tell.

Well, I mean man when you sent us that list

you had so much to choose from it was hard to try to figure out what to do

and right you know I knew for sure I think the first thing that struck a chord was the piece to do a piece on the Emancipation Proclamation because you had a copy of that so I'm like yes yeah maybe I should do one on that so that's the first one I chose to work on and I think I came up with a real nice design design for that one, so I was pretty excited about that

particular piece.

And then...

It reminds me, Thomas, if I may, your painting reminds me of, because I've only seen the outline and the early color study of it, but it reminds me of a cover of

that

Norman Rockwell did years ago.

And I can't remember the scene, but you have the Emancipation Proclamation printed, and then you have, I believe it's the Lincoln Memorial and behind in front of that, and then a black man

in the flag wrapped around him with the opened handcuffs or chains.

And it's just stunning.

Stunning.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was interesting because, believe it or not, that photograph of that man was taken at least

almost 40 40 years ago.

And I just had it sitting in my studio.

Yeah, yeah.

And I, because

you took that picture 40 years ago?

Yeah,

yeah.

What happened was this.

I was living, when I first got married, I was living in an apartment complex in California.

And there was a neighbor of mine who, and this woman who was living there had a boyfriend who was a football player.

And he, you know, he had a nice physique.

And every time he walked by, I kept saying man I need to use that guy on something so you know I went up to him and asked him if he would pose for me and he said he would and so

he came over and I was trying to figure out well what do I do with him you know and so I said well let me I don't know why I just said let me wrap him up in the American flag and that's what I did and to be honest with you the photographs really weren't that well done, but they were good enough to give me the impression and the image I needed.

And I've just been sitting on them for the last 40 years.

Unbelievable.

So,

Thomas, besides us,

if I may call you a friend, I don't know if you call me a friend, but I consider you a dear friend.

I want you to call me a friend.

I don't want to ever assume, but

I just love you so much, and I love your work so much.

Besides me calling you and asking you to do this, why are you doing this particular art show?

Because you are

everywhere.

I I mean, just won the Grand Prix of the West and,

you know, inducted in the Illustrators Hall of Fame.

You are so busy.

What is it about this art show that is different to you?

Well, the show is very unique.

Nobody that I know of has ever done a show like this before.

I mean, for you, first of all, to be the kind of historian you are and then having all these artifacts and memorabilia that you've gotten and to do a show where you display a painting, and then next to it will be the artifact.

I mean, that's just unique and different.

It's just a different concept.

And then, like I said, because of everything you own, my goodness.

And then the artist that you've chosen.

I mean, it was kind of interesting because one of the artists,

one of my friends, Frank Ordaz, he showed me some of the stuff he was working on.

And when I saw what he was doing for you, I said, oh, my goodness, I'm going to have to up my game because

it looks so good it looks so good yeah i just said oh boy here we go you know i gotta i i can't come in here looking like you know some kind of slouch boy so i've been doing what i could to just try to you know do a nice piece with some of the uh the images that i'm doing so

So we've done, you've been up to the ranch a couple of summers where we've had some of these artists come up and learn how to storytell from people like Pixar and

others.

And

I have gotten the impression that many of the artists, not necessarily you, but many of the artists

have a hard time because they'll be pegged for one particular kind of thing.

And they want to branch out and they want to tell these stories, but they just haven't had the chance because

Some of the galleries are like, no, we don't, that won't sell.

That won't sell.

And they may be right in the end.

I would hate to say this.

They may be right in the end.

But I don't think they are.

I think people are hungry for inspiring art.

And, you know, one of yours is the picture of the angel guarding the child sleeping.

What do you call that one?

That's called

Watchers in the Night.

Oh, my gosh.

That is one of the most stunning paintings I've ever seen.

And it's religious without being overtly religious.

You have another one.

I can't remember what it's called, but it's a black man and he is wrapped in like

a shroud of stars or something.

It's been a while since I've seen it.

Another

unbelievable

painting.

The image is called Night and Day.

And the painting is supposed to depict nighttime being wrapped up in daylight.

And that's the idea I got.

But what was unique about the painting was it's the first time I had ever done a painting for an art show.

And I didn't know what to do.

So I prayed about it.

And I asked the Lord, I said, God, I need a painting.

I don't know what to do.

Could you give me an image?

I just ask you to make it.

an incredible design and give me nice colors and a powerful image.

And I don't remember how long it took, but it might have been a couple of weeks.

But I remember all of a sudden one day, he flashes this image inside of me.

I saw it inside of my mind, and it was perfect.

And all I did from that point on was copied what he showed me.

So

throughout my career, there's been at least six to seven times where God

gave me an image and all I had to do was copy it.

The most

recognized image that I've done, and I did it many years ago, is a painting called Forgiven.

And that pain came the same way where I prayed about it, and God showed me the pain.

So, when that happens, all I have to do is copy what he shows me.

And that's how I get a lot of the images because he just gives them to me.

You make that sound so easy, but seeing that he's the greatest painter ever,

it's not as easy as you make it sound.

I'm so thrilled to be your friend.

I am, as you know,

I own one of your originals, and

it is, I mean, I've got a few really good paintings, and that is my favorite painting that I own.

And I honestly wish I could own many more of yours.

And it's an honor to have you as part of this art show.

I'm just, you are the Norman Rockwell, you know, know, the JC lion-decker of our day.

And I just, I'm thrilled to have you.

So

thank you so much.

That is a big burden to carry, my man, but I appreciate it.

Well, you carry it well.

You carry it well.

Thank you so much.

I want you to look up Thomas Blackshear.

It's ThomasBlackshearII.com.

You'll see some of his stuff.

You just go back into his past and you'll find these things that you've seen a million times.

And he's just remarkable.

He'll be one of the 30 outstanding top-of-the-air craft artists that will be joining me at the studio in September when we try the first

American narrative in fine art, where we are trying to get these artists to be able to see that they can branch out from a barn or a horse or something that kind of feels like America and restore the storytelling to fine art.

So, you know, you may not be able to afford the original, but you could afford the print of it and hang it in your home, and it will teach your children about history in a very uplifting and inspiring way.

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I want to take you through a couple of things

with the convention that happened this week.

One of the things is I have been praying for and looking for a revival in this country for 25 years.

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And this is starting to happen.

And there's other things that are happening as well, especially in media and the books.

The Chosen is

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Hi, Kathie Lee.

How are you?

Glenn, I couldn't, I was trying this morning to think how long it's been since we, we used to hang out quite a bit in New York, and then you, you were smart and got left out before anybody did, and I got,

you know, it took me longer.

I left about five years ago, but I was praying for us this morning that our time together would be fruitful and blessed.

and favored of the Lord, because you and I have always understood that about each other, that everything we did and everything that fueled our life was not about us.

It never has been.

It never has been.

So I am so happy to say hello to you again.

Oh, me too.

Me too.

So you've written a new series of books or a new book that I think is going to develop.

Hopefully a series, right?

It's the first.

Right.

And it's about,

you know?

Right.

Right.

I know.

And this is the story of Herod and Mary.

So

tell me why this story is important and what's different about your telling of it.

Well, this, I've lost track, as I'm sure you have too, of how many books you've written.

I know it's over 30, but I have no idea.

And I don't care.

It doesn't matter.

I just keep finding stories that I can't keep inside me.

So in 2012, I went on my first rabbinical trip to the Holy Land with an amazing teacher named Ray Vanderlaan.

And I learned for the first time, you know,

Herod is mentioned just twice in Matthew,

just twice.

And it's just, we know he's a bad guy, you can tell, but there's no, it's all in black and white, no color, no technicolor, no Dolby sound, right?

I went on this trip and I, the stuff I learned about Herod,

I went, and this is what happens to me all the time on these trips, I get mad.

Why didn't anybody ever tell me this?

I'm sick of being in grandma's Sunday school.

Stop it.

These stories are epic.

They're unbelievable.

They're not all in the Bible, but if you search deeper and deeper, well, so anyway, I came home so on fire about Herod that I literally, my son found everything on the internet there was about every book because I thought, I got to make a movie about Herod.

If Jesus is the greatest story ever told, and billions of people believe that, Herod is one of the greatest stories never told

and I thought there's something wrong

I don't I

because I don't know anything really about him

that's the point and once you start learning his story you're gonna freak that he had he was one of first of all the most one of the most genius architects probably of all time he the what he built in in Israel the architecture the the Safaria maritime it took two centuries no two two millennia for them to figure out how the man built a marina on the Mediterranean Sea so that Caesar's ships could come to, and he called it Caesarea Maritime.

Why was it naming it after Caesar?

Because he needed Caesar.

He had no army.

He called himself the king of the Jews.

He wasn't even a Jew.

He was an Idomite, Idomite, from basically modern-day Jordan.

He wasn't a Jew at all, so the Jews hated him.

You know how they are about their ancestry.

And the Romans didn't trust him because he was, but he was, he got out of situations.

He was like the consummate politician.

He was paranoid like crazy.

So he was always looking behind his back to see if, you know, Julius Caesar was going to turn his back on him or

what's her name?

Cleopatra tried to seduce him.

He might be the only man that ever said no to Cleopatra.

But it's scony because he didn't want Mark Antony to murder him.

And he was turning his back

his whole family because he was the richest man on the planet.

And he had all this power.

It's a modern-day story, basically, Glenn.

Ripped from the headlines, really.

It's going on all over the world.

It never changes.

He murdered anybody and anybody that got in his way, including his children.

The only woman he ever loved, his wife, Miriam Ney.

And until our book opens basically at the end of his life, and we go back and we tell it from the time that he was first

born basically and then we juxtapose it against the story of the beginning of Mary's life this young virginal

teenage girl from from Nazareth who has been visited by an angel the purest of any kind of visitations could be and he tells her what's going to happen because God has blessed her and she says let it be unto me as you have said I mean knowing that she could be stoned for this she'd never been with a man she knew it but she knew nobody else would believe it so it's an incredible story of Herod's debauchery and his evil his evil all contrasted up against Mary so people ask me all the time and I'm sure they do you too Glenn Kathy do you think there's more evil in the world now than there used to be And I always answer the same thing, which is, no,

evil was in the Garden of Eden, even when the Lord God was walking in the cool of the day with Adam and Eve.

The serpent was there.

So we shouldn't be surprised by that.

The only thing that's different now is that we have a lot of cable news channels and we have cell phones.

I said, but what we have to learn to do is realize that the Lord God, Creator God, Jehovah Elohim, Jehovah Jireh, Jehovah Rapha, the healer, all the names of Jehovah are still here too.

And that's who we have to look to.

And that's what Mary did.

And

Mary had a journey to take that would be excruciating.

Excruciating.

And she said, yes, Lord.

So basically, we open up the book as a thriller.

And I have to give great thanks to my co-writer, Brian Litzen, Ph.D.,

because I don't know how to write

these kinds of books.

I've written 30 some other kinds, and they come to me.

But it was my son, Cody, who said, mom, we got to take this passion you have for this ancient evil characters.

The next one we're going to write is about Nero, and the next one probably about Jezebel and Ahab.

And

it's always been there.

But I want people to have hope, Glenn, that even though this evil is happening, we cling to the living hope.

And the living hope shows up.

in the course of us are telling the Herod story in the form of a young teenage girl who

carrying the savior of humankind in her womb.

And if that doesn't give you hope, what can

it really is interesting to me, Kathy Lee, that,

you know, in our darkest times, it is a choice.

And

this sounds really weird, but one of the things that has really given me such hope in really dark times is, you know, this might be the time.

And I know everybody has said this for 2,000 years, but this might be the time that Christ comes back.

And when you really think about that, it's, I think some people would go, whoa, wait, hold on just a second.

I don't want to.

But I think that's exhilarating to think that we could be witnesses to those days that people have waited for forever.

And when you have real faith that

Christ isn't surprised by any of this, God knew this from the beginning.

Sovereign God, yes.

Right.

It just, it takes all of the pressure off of, I mean, you still have to do what you're supposed to do, but you don't

carry the burden of all this evil.

Yes, it takes the fear away.

You know,

studying rabbinically, which means studying the source material of the Bible, the ancient languages that are still around and they haven't changed, which is the Hebrew and the Greek.

You know, that in the Hebrew Bible, there is no word for for coincidence.

None.

Because they believe, and I believe, and I think you do too, there is no such thing as coincidence.

God is either sovereign God in all things or he's not God at all.

So when you say good luck to somebody, it's a waste of your breath.

There's no such thing as luck.

There's no such thing as random or coincidence.

No, he is sovereign God and he always has been.

He's the only thing that never changes

the world around us.

My God, every time you wake up and you look at the news, everything, we don't know who's going to be president this weekend.

You know, we don't know who's going to, we don't know anything.

We just have to know him.

And it's not about religion.

And you and I have talked about this so often.

It's about relationships with the living God.

So

I agree with you, but people, when the first, and people don't understand this, they will, when the first Christians were there, I said, no, there weren't Christians when Jesus was alive.

Those were followers of the way.

They were all Jews.

All Jews.

And not until Jesus was dead, resurrected, and ascended to heaven did the apostolic period begin.

And it was Nero who actually called them little Christians because based on the word crystal.

And he did it derisively.

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We were talking to Kathy Lee Gifford about her new book, Herod and Mary.

It's a thriller, but based on the true biblical story.

Kathy, you know, you talk about no coincidence.

I think there was a change that happened after this attempted assassination on Donald Trump, and it changed the country and it changed him.

Have you paid attention to the convention at all

this week and seen him?

Because I know you know Donald Trump quite well I've known I've known Donald since I first moved to New York in 1982 and he was already a good friend of Frank's at that point and his father Fred they all used to play golf together at all those great golf courses in in that area and uh and you know I try to I try to avoid politics because long ago Billy Graham said to me Kathy

the only thing I really regret in my life was getting involved with politics you God has put you on this planet to be in the entertainment world he's given you a a boldness about your faith.

He's told you, and he says, if I was, I'm just trying, I love you, Kathy.

He told me this in my 20s.

God is going to use you hugely in the media, in the world of entertainment.

Just keep telling people that he loves him, that God loves them.

That's it.

And the three times that Frank and I got involved in politics was because we sued the state of New York for things that were against children, and we won every time.

But that was not political in the sense of Republican, Democrat.

It was about children.

Right.

And Jesus said.

So I don't want to ask you about

politics.

I know.

I know you don't.

I just wanted to let everybody know I am not a political animal, but I follow it like an animal.

And I know how I feel about things.

And I pray about everything.

I pray for Donald because he's a friend of mine.

And when I was just giving birth to Cassidy, and that's 31 years ago, he saved me and Cassidy from a crazed,

a psycho who was trying to murder me and her.

And he sent his helicopter for me and Cassidy.

He sent his, like, I'm more and more, every single day until they found this guy, I had more people around me protecting me.

And I just, I mean, that's the Donald that I've known forever.

Now, of course,

yeah, so that's, I can't help it.

I have a personal experience with this man that very few people ever have.

But I've watched with interest the

spiritual changes, the journey that he has been on all these years, because I've spoken to him at my home and or different places and Mar-a-Lago, you know, about Jesus.

That's all I talk about to anybody.

Not if they don't want to talk about it, but if they want to.

And he was always so respectful and always

understood what I was talking about.

And

he just respected it.

And that's what people don't realize about Donald.

He will listen to people.

He's fascinated by people.

and he wants to learn.

He wants to grow.

Now, once he became,

Kathy, I've got to take a quick one-minute break and then we're going to come back and I want you to finish the story, but I'm up against the clock here.

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talking to Kathy Lee Gifford, she has a new book out called

Harrod and Mary.

But I wanted just to get her thought on the changes she has seen since the assassination attempt.

I think he's had a real spiritual awakening that has humbled him, and he knows truly

who is the author of his life.

Do you agree?

I heard your intro before I came on, and I was sitting here thinking, yes, yes, yes.

But I've seen it coming for far longer than just this assassination attempt because I've known him for so long, and we've had so many conversations over the years.

I mean, he and Marla Maples got engaged at Franks and my house in Connecticut.

I mean, we've had some conversations over the years, you know, and I don't talk about it and it's nobody's business.

But now that all this has happened, I was sitting here in my home in Tennessee and I watched it in real time.

And of course, the minute I saw him hit the ground, I just said, oh, Jesus.

Oh, Jesus be with him.

And everyone in the crowd, you know, and I was stunned like he was that nobody went freaking out, freaking out and rushing and paranoid and terrified as it would be natural to do to do.

So anyway, then we saw him stand up and do the iconic thing that will live in, you know, forever.

And I just was rejoicing.

I was rejoicing.

I would have done the same thing if Joe Biden had been assassinated or the assassination.

I just,

I do not, I hate evil.

The only thing I hate is hatred, you know, and there are people that I don't like what they do, but I don't hate them.

You cannot call yourself a believer in God and in God's love and then say, but at the same time, I hate you and I hope you die.

Love cannot live next to hatred.

You know, it just cannot, you're, you totally oust yourself as a complete hypocrite when you do that.

So, anyway, I was, I was, and I, you know, I knew, I've always known because I believe God is sovereign in all things and all things work together for good.

But in Romans 8, 28, it says, for those who love God and are called according to his purpose.

Well, Mary loved God and she knew she was called according to his purpose, his purpose, not hers.

And she prayed basically the same prayer that Jesus did in the garden, not my will be done, Lord, but yours.

And that's what we as believers, all these thousands of years later, Glenn, have to learn from these stories.

So over the years, I have seen certain friends of mine get to know Donald privately, personally, spend time with him pray with him he's always wants people to pray yes for him and he's not he's not embarrassed by that he's surrounded by people that that know that he's called of god for whatever purpose we don't know what it is yeah and and i and i think he has

yeah and i think he has come to the conclusion

his will not mine kathie lee gifford thank you for being on the program

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Welcome.

It's Friday.

If you missed any of the review of the convention or Donald Trump's speech last night, I had a lot of very important and interesting things to say.

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Yeah, Glenn, also your new book coming out next week, Chasing Embers, which is

your first one you've ever done, right, for a young adult thriller?

For young adults.

First young adult fiction.

I think I've done all of them now except like religious text.

Cookbook?

Cookbook.

I think we've hit all of the categories now.

Pardon me?

You had a cookbook out there yet?

Oh, no, I don't have a cookbook.

Get a cookbook going.

We'll fire that one up.

I will say your hot chocolate and your mashed potatoes can lead that thing.

It would be incredible.

Both Both of them are amazing.

It may just be that.

I will say, too, there's a great program.

We talked about it a little bit earlier this week going on with Moms for Liberty, which is an organization you're probably familiar with.

It's a great one.

And they are working to get sane books into public libraries,

books that are actually appealing to kids that aren't woke and insane.

And they are running a campaign now with Chasing Embers.

This is going through the 21st, which is Sunday.

so only a couple of days left with this but if you donate to them this week 100 of your donation will go to placing chasing embers into the hands of teens across the comp country in public libraries like i didn't know they allowed glenn beck books in public libraries i thought that was barred by the constitution or something but they do in some cities really yeah they do in some cities i i have to tell you let me give you some of the reviews that i've uh i've received from some of the teenagers that just uh wrote it we asked them several questions would you read follow-up books?

You know, what was the most important thing that you learned?

Was it exciting, et cetera, et cetera?

Here's some of the responses.

Most important lesson is that if you spread lies, eventually everybody will believe them.

So you must, to fight, spread the truth.

Another one, the truth always matters, even when the world is run by pure power.

Keep history alive and share it with other kids.

Dive deep into facts.

Look at many opinions on a subject and listen to one's own heart.

And the story is connecting with the young adults as well.

I love the mystery of the book, how it had an exciting turn at every point.

I love the writing style, drama of the story.

I will read the next one in the same series in a heartbeat.

So it's getting good reviews initially.

It's something you can read with your family.

You can give to your probably, I mean, I think, you know,

Rafe was reading, you know,

Hunger Games when he was eight, much to my chagrin.

But

so if they're a good reader, they could probably read this easily, you know, at seven or eight.

But it was really written for a young teenager, 12 to, you know, 18.

and kind of in the genre of Harry Potter, where you can read it as a family and really enjoy it.

And it delves into history and tries to connect.

it's one of these books you know i just

i just put uh on my coffee table in front of my

uh

in front of the couch in our living room uh where the tv is we watch tv i just put uh webster's original 18 what is it 36 dictionary um on the coffee table and i put it there to see If it's there, will my children reach for

a dictionary or for Google because they respect this dictionary.

Well, they were taught to.

Well, we just beat them into submission on respecting the original Webster's dictionary.

And it was, I put it down on the table.

We started watching that night and some word came up in some show we were watching.

And

one of the kids said, what does that mean?

I said, I'm not sure.

And one of them reached for the dictionary and looked it up and we went through.

And if you can teach your kids how to find the truth and how to find

and dig into things, it's kind of exciting, at least for me,

for the whole family.

But anyway, you were saying that you could now give

to the Moms for Libraries Foundation.

This is Moms for Liberty.

It's m4lfoundation.org slash Beck.

And they get these into public libraries and into school libraries.

You know, I mean, I know we have all the places we can go.

It's different than the Dr.

Seuss you had.

It's

this one ends in the Strip Club with the big fat guy dressed as a woman stripping.

So

I know we can get those books in.

Can we get good books into our public schools and libraries?

That's what Moms for Liberty is doing.

This week, they are trying to get our book in, Chasing Embers, M4Lfoundation.org/slash Beck is way to is the way to help yeah or you know if you just want to get it for yourself or your family glen glennbeck.com you can go there and pick it up because

or wherever books are sold yeah wherever books are sold starting Tuesday Glenn

yep it's officially released Tuesday and if you ordered through Glennbeck.com you should be getting it if you don't have it already you should be getting it faster

all right so

let me tell you about something else that I learned that I am so excited to share with you

Tomorrow is episode number five of my podcast on experts.

It's called The Beck Story, kind of like the back story on our history.

And this one is an eight-part episode or an eight-part series on

experts.

And

how did we go from a place to where,

you know, we didn't have experts and we trusted ourselves, our neighbors, our family.

And now

you will be told by an expert that you didn't see what you just saw

or that men can become pregnant.

And because an expert says it, you'll believe it.

How did that happen?

How did a group of people that used to hang on to common sense all of a sudden reject their own knowledge, their own understanding of universal truth,

and just hand it off to an expert.

How is it we have wild inflation and the people who told us it was transitory, nothing to worry about, or that it was great,

they're still telling us, no, it's not, no, you just don't understand the prices at the grocery store.

What do you mean I don't understand the prices of the, I know when I'm spending more than I used to on groceries.

Then we listen to these experts.

They tell us all this stuff.

They've caused the problem.

and then we keep going back to those same damn experts and saying, okay, but now what are we going to do about it?

Why would you ask the people who broke it in the first place?

How did we get here?

Well, it's a progressive story.

And we went back about 125 years and we started looking at how we got to become a society that doesn't listen to itself anymore.

It doesn't listen to common sense.

It listens to experts.

And episode 5, which comes out tomorrow, is all about the Supreme Court and how the progressives changed, radically changed the Supreme Court.

It is fascinating.

And you will learn more about today

and what's happening in the Supreme Court by knowing what happened before.

Let me give you just a quick

quick clip of it.

Let's go with backstory number seven, seven, please.

History can turn on a dime.

In America's case, that's what happened on September 6, 1901, when President William McKinley stepped in front of a receiving line at the Pan American Exposition in Buffalo, New York.

An anarchist named Leon Salgaz waited his turn in the long line.

When he stepped forward to shake hands with President McKinley, he suddenly pulled a.32-caliber revolver from his jacket pocket and fired twice at point-blank range.

The first bullet ricocheted off of one of McKinley's coat buttons, but the second bullet entered his abdomen and lodged in his back.

McKinley survived for eight days before infection and gangrene ultimately took his life.

Vice President Theodore Roosevelt was on a camping trip in the Adirondack Mountains when he was summoned to a friend's house in Buffalo to take the oath of office as the nation's new president.

America had its first progressive president, and history turned on a dime.

The sudden presidency.

Instead, they made do with their progressive allies in Congress, including Wisconsin Senator Robert Lafoliet.

They used those years out of power to spread their ideas in the press and lay patient groundwork for the moment when the progressive would return to the White House.

Here's how the Brandeis-Frankfurter partnership worked.

There was constant communication between them, sometimes even daily letters.

Historian Bruce Allen Murphy describes the letters from Brandeis as resembling, quote, shopping lists with numbered items proposing legislation, political action strategies, and even the latest insider information on Supreme Court cases.

Then Frankfurter took action on Brandeis's requests.

He lobbied members of Congress directly, sometimes even drafted legislation for them to try to correct decisions that Brandeis thought the Supreme Court had gotten wrong.

Frankfurter's close working relationship with the New Republic magazine, his friendship with the editors of the New York World and Boston Herald, plus numerous other contacts in mainstream press and law review publications, enabled him to publish articles widely on any topic Brandeis ordered.

Often Frankfurter would take comments on current issues that he received in letters from Brandeis and redraft them into unsigned articles that were published in the New Republic.

If Frankfurter didn't write the articles himself, he farmed them out to other journalists in his network.

Or, as was often the case, he used his carefully selected core of Harvard law school students to research and write scores of articles for he and Brandeis.

When these law student-produced articles got published, they often thanked their professor Frankfurter for his inspiration and support, having no clue that the topic actually originated with a sitting Supreme Court justice.

What's amazing about this particular Beck story is if you want to know

about the leak of the Supreme Court and how that happened, You look back at the early history of the Supreme Court, which include the Harvard Law School and

then the media and then secret clubs, if you will, that became known in Washington, D.C., where you got all the progressives together and they started colluding with each other.

And then they would go to the press and plant those stories.

And then they got

Brandeis into

the Supreme Court.

And he started colluding with the White House.

And

everything changed.

And it looked to the average American like the system was working, that we had three branches, but we didn't.

And it was run by a handful of experts and it completely changed America.

This is what's happening right now, I believe.

When you listen to tomorrow's podcast on the Beck story, and you listen to the stories of the Supreme Court, Everything that you're hearing and reading about the Supreme Court now, how they're under attack, the leaks, who can you trust in the Supreme Court, the trying to jockey and get people off the Supreme Court.

All of this has been done before, and it is remarkable to hear it.

That's tomorrow on the Beck story, wherever you get your podcasts.

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So, is this the weekend Joe Biden stepped down from the nomination of the Democrats?

I mean, this is an amazing time.

Prediction markets now have Joe Biden, the man who won the nomination, the man who won the primary, the man who participated in a debate as the candidate

of the party, now has a 5%

chance of winning the election.

5%.

What a weird time this is.

I will say it is legitimately incredible.

I'm off for a few days next week.

Glenn will be here with you.

And

by the time I get back, I wonder if Joe Biden will still be the nominee.

Going to be very fascinating to watch that play out.

And it's going to be fascinating to watch the Nancy Pelosi smear campaign either putter, you know, sort of peter out this weekend or just stop completely.

She has been leaking story after story after story to the media.

The media eats it up over and over and over again because they want the same outcome.

And over and over again, the Biden campaign keeps saying, look,

screw you guys.

It's our decision.

We will let you know if we're changing our minds on that.

And so far, they keep, including today, denying they are going to step down from this race.

And we, of course, here at the Glenbeck program want to encourage the president to stick with it, Joe.

You can do it.

You've been doubted before, and you can push through it.

If he does drop out, we'll go live at youtube.com/slash studasamerica.

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