Best of the Program | Guests: AG Andrew Bailey & Gene Hamilton | 6/24/24

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Missouri AG Andrew Bailey joins to explain his lawsuit against New York City for engaging in what he describes as political lawfare against former President Trump. Whistleblower and registered nurse Vanessa Sivadge joins to expose the horrors she saw at Texas Children's Hospital. America First Legal executive director Gene Hamilton joins to expose the Department of Homeland Security's possible targeting of Trump supporters as "domestic terrorists."
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Wow, I don't even know where to begin today, Stu,

on the podcast.

Holy cow, have we covered a lot?

We started with new videotape from CBS and 60 Minutes of

apparently the Saudis being involved.

I mean, on record being involved now with 9-11.

Hmm.

Minor development.

Right.

Many plus years after.

Right.

What does that mean?

I'll tell you, and I think you're going to get an opinion you're not going to hear anywhere else.

Also, Andrew Bailey.

Andrew Bailey, he's the AG from Missouri.

He is now suing the state of New York.

Ezra Levant joins us.

He's up in Canada where he is being now investigated for a hate crime because he drove around in a truck, you know, one of those digital billboards that shows what's happening on the streets of Toronto with these anti-Jewish protesters.

Also, the registered nurse who

blew the whistle on pediatric sex change operations happening at Czech Texas Children's Hospital.

She's now being investigated.

She's on to tell her heroic story and so much more on today's podcast.

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The Missouri Attorney General, one of the better attorney generals in our country, Andrew Bailey, joins me now from Missouri.

Hello, Andrew.

How are you?

Hey, Glenn, thanks for having me on.

Yeah, you bet.

You bet.

So

tell me about this.

I read this last week when you announced it, and I'm trying to figure out how you can do that.

What is your standing to be able to sue New York?

Well, Glenn, somebody's got to do something to fight back against this unconstitutional lawfare that's depriving all voters, but specifically in my instance, Missourians, of access to and to hear from a presidential candidate in the heat of a national election in the most consequential presidential election in this nation's history.

And so Missourians are being harmed by the actions in New York that have taken President Trump off the campaign trail and will continue to take him off the campaign trail after sentencing and have silenced him through the gag order.

It's called parents patriot.

That's the standing argument.

Essentially, Missouri has a sovereign interest in a national election and being able to participate in that national election.

And I will tell you, the founders contemplated just this kind of dispute when they codified in Article III, Section 2 of the United States Constitution, a method by which states could resolve differences with original jurisdiction of the United States Supreme Court.

That's where we're going.

When states have a problem with one another, they go to the Supreme Court.

It happens all the time.

And in this instance,

Missouri has a real problem with New York's law fair against President Trump.

So the Supreme Court going on vacation Friday night.

When are you going to argue this?

Yeah, we're going to get it up to the court this week.

I mean, we've got to get it on file and put the marker down that

red states are ready to fight back against this kind of election interference.

This is an attack on our democratic process.

We've got to stop looking at law fare in terms of individualized cases start seeing not just trees, but the forest for what it is.

They have silenced conservative voices.

They have silenced President Trump.

They have censored free speech on big tech.

They have kicked President Trump off the ballot in certain states.

They've sanctioned him through civil suits.

And now you've got the crooked Department of Justice leading an effort at the federal and at two different state levels in order not to obtain a legally valid conviction of President Trump, but again, to deny voters access to a presidential candidate.

It's important to remember the First Amendment right to free speech applies not only to the speaker, but to listeners as well.

Every American who wants to hear from President Trump has been harmed, not only by the gag order, but by the illicit prosecutions that take President Trump off the campaign trail and put him in a courtroom.

So when you

founders were genius, quite honestly,

I have appreciated the separation of federal and state more and more as we go down this road on how states can choose to do their own thing

as the the rest of the government wants to take those rights away.

But you say that we have to grab hold of the Constitution again and we have to restore the

law and order.

So what does this actually look like?

What do you have to prove

to win this case?

Well, as he pointed out, we've got to prove first and foremost that Missouri has a sovereign interest in Missourians participating on equal footing with other states in a presidential election for a chosen candidate, a candidate that Missourians, through the caucus process, have chosen as one of the leading parties in this presidential election.

So that's the standing argument.

The second issue that we have to adjudicate is the harm.

What's the harm?

Well, the harm is, again, it's not only a speech issue, but an access issue.

When President Trump is tethered to a Manhattan courtroom for months at a time, after sentencing, what's that going to look like?

Is he in a prison cell?

Is he on house arrest?

Is he doing community service?

Because all of those things take him off the campaign trail and deny Missourians access to a presidential candidate and ultimately interfere with this presidential election.

And then it's the gag order.

Again, there is a strong presumption because of the First Amendment against gag orders.

And one of the things the court looks at in determining whether or not a gag order is appropriate is whether or not speech will prejudice the defendant's right to a fair trial.

Well, the presumption against that gag order should be heightened in the middle of a presidential campaign when you're talking about a leading presidential candidate.

And so it's not only that President Trump's right to speak out on these issues was violated, but Missouri's right to hear from him.

We've got to fight back.

The founders contemplated this.

I would submit to you that we have not seen this kind of perversion of the law, weaponization of government against political opponents since the Alien Sedition Acts of 1798.

And if you remember what happened, there was such a backlash against the Federalists that they lost all power in 1,800.

I predict the same thing happens here.

This lawsuit puts a marker down and starts to make a stand where we fight back.

Have you gotten any other states to join you in this?

Right now, it's Missouri going it alone.

I'll tell you, we would welcome other states.

I think that for far too long,

Republicans and conservatives have sat on the sidelines and watched this happen.

This didn't happen overnight.

This happened back in 2016 when the deep state suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop story and then injected the Russian collusion hoax into the American body politic that undermined President Trump's the first few years, attempted to undermine the first few years of his presidency.

And it has gone on in 2020 and now in 2024.

And we've got to start taking steps to fight back against it or we will lose our democratic republic.

What do you say to those people who say we don't have a republic,

we have a democracy?

Well, they're wrong.

I mean, there's structure in place in order to mitigate against the capricious whims and tyranny of the majority.

And that structure matters.

And so things like original jurisdiction at the United States Supreme Court for disputes between states, I submit to you as a little R Republican structural mechanism that, again, it's a timeless principle of separation of powers and a balance between federal and state authority that matters to our system.

And I lament the fact that the left has jettisoned this traditional approach that, you know, we used to agree that we would elevate the rules of the game above the players and the outcomes.

But the left hates Donald Trump so much, they're willing to destroy our system of government to retain power and destroy a political opponent.

That is shameful.

We are looking at a country now that,

you know, the left learns,

and they learn if nobody stands against them.

Nobody is willing to play hardball.

They'll play hardball every step of the way.

They did it with the

boycotts of sponsors until now that's just accepted from the left.

They've done it now with the silencing on social media.

And their biggest one yet, I think, is lawfare.

And this is that they're going after the president's attorneys,

putting a chill through the air.

What happened in Connecticut, I think it was last week, where the Bar Association of Connecticut said, you can't speak out against this judge or they'll be hell to pay.

This is

when you're starting to go after the attorneys and you're using attorneys on your side to shut everyone down,

that's a final stage of

freedom, is it not?

Glenn, I think you're absolutely right.

I think one of the most unreported problems with the law fair is that the left has criminalized the practice of law.

Let's go to New York and look at the fact that essentially what they said was the false entries in the business record where President Trump paid his attorney to enter into a contract were illegal.

Well, certainly the founders understood that we had a right to seek counsel, and they would have understood that counsel would assist with contract because contracts often end up in legal disputes.

And so criminalizing the practice of law, again, it destroys the very foundational principles upon which our judicial system is based.

I mean,

it hurts President Trump today, but it also hurts voters today, but it's going to hurt all of us down the road when we're denied due process, when we're denied the right to counsel, because those things have suddenly become criminal.

So this is not going to be something that is heard uh right away this is something that you're laying the marker down on the table for later

we're laying the marker down on the table and asking the supreme court to put a stop to the lawfare against president trump in the instance of the in the case in new york to allow president issue an order to allow president trump to remain on the campaign trail and continue to court the electorate and talk to the american people and have let the american people have access to their chosen presidential candidate So you're asking for an emergency hearing then before they...

Absolutely.

Okay.

All right.

I hope you win, Andrew.

I really hope.

And I applaud you for standing up for the system.

And it is time for all of our states to do this.

I mean, you know,

I don't mind if we go and we vote and we disagree and you vote for somebody that I don't like.

I don't mind that.

I don't mind if your guy wins.

As long as it's fair, I don't mind going after my guys if they're corrupt, as long as we go after your guys as well.

And

they should stop being my guy or your guy when they're corrupt.

And I think that's what most Americans, most Americans are still fair, but they have been so warped with what is true and what is not.

that

I don't think they even understand what fair is anymore.

Andrew, thank you.

Thanks, Glenn.

Appreciate you.

You bet.

Andrew Bailey, Missouri Attorney General.

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Vanessa Sivage is with us now.

And Vanessa, welcome to the program.

Thank you so much for having me.

Thank you.

Now,

Vanessa, I don't know what I can ask you, what I can't ask you,

because you're involved in legal action now.

So I just want to I want to hear your story

that

brought you into the position where the government's now looking at you.

Absolutely.

Well, the story really starts in 2021.

I accepted a new position in a pediatric multi-specialty clinic at Texas Children's Hospital.

And,

you know, at first, my background is in cardiology, and so I was helping babies born with congenital heart anomalies and through a series of medical interventions and surgeries were saving their life.

However, I just contrast that with the endocrine clinic where I started seeing perfectly healthy patients and teenagers with functional anatomy and we were harming them.

The hospital was turning them into a patient dependent on the medical system for life through

puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.

And so I started to see this rise in transgender patients coming to clinic and

specifically in something I feel like we don't talk about enough, which is teenage girls who are confused about their sex.

But not only are they confused about their sex, they're also suffering with depression.

And many of them are autistic.

And many of them are coming into the emergency room because they've tried to commit suicide and take their lives.

And

it was just very clear that there's so much going on and they're

truly suffering with just a vari a variety of issues um and that was really devastating to me

so

what did you

how did you get involved in blowing the whistle tell tell me that part i know that a doctor who we talked to a couple of weeks ago who is also under investigation himself now for blowing the whistle dr heim um

he did an article he was anonymously um giving information anonymously to christopher ruffo

and

he blew the whistle.

And when did you get involved?

Right.

Well,

it was May of 2023, and I had contemplated quitting on a number of occasions because,

you know, I was being asked to do things that were against my beliefs and my faith.

and

would come home crying to my husband because I couldn't fathom what was being done to these children.

And

it was in this time that I read Christopher Ruffo's article with an anonymous whistleblower

who we now know is Dr.

Aiton Heim.

And

I knew I had to come forward to corroborate his account

to just affirm that everything that he was seeing was true because I was also seeing it where I was working.

And so that's when I came forward anonymously in May of last year and worked with Christopher Ruffo and just

provided a different perspective from an outpatient clinic nurse that

transgender patients were being seen, and it was true.

So when was the first inkling that someone knew who you were?

Yeah.

Well, you know, life went on as normal for a little bit.

And I thought, you know, I had done my part.

I had come forward.

I had helped expose what was being done in secret.

I felt like that was a redemptive opportunity for me.

And,

you know, it was the evening of July the 24th of last year when we were having dinner with friends in our home.

We were laughing in the kitchen and I think we were making burgers.

And all of a sudden, there's a knock on the door and my husband goes to answer it.

And he didn't come back right away.

And I just thought, oh my goodness, maybe something, someone's selling something, you know.

And so I go out and I

to the front door.

And at my front door are two federal agents who are asking to speak with me about issues at my work.

And,

you know, I think in that moment, I can say that time, time just stood still.

And

I couldn't believe, I couldn't believe it,

what was happening.

But they essentially said that I was a person of interest in an investigation where they were seeking to unmask the identity of this first whistleblower, who we now know is Dr.

Heim.

But of course, I had no idea who he was.

And

I

listened as they talked about how he had broken HIPAA by releasing

patient confidential documents.

And I referred to him, which is not true, absolutely.

And I referred to him as a whistleblower.

And they immediately corrected me.

And they were like, no, he's not a whistleblower.

He's a leaker.

And he has broken HIPAA by releasing patient information to the public.

And I knew that they were lying to me.

Not only that, but then...

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

How did you know they were lying to you?

Because I had read

Chris Fruffo's,

you know, his article, and there was absolutely no patient identifying information on those documents.

Everything was blacked out and redacted.

And I knew that.

And so that's when I knew they were lying.

And so anyway, they continued and they said that they threatened me and said they promised they would make life difficult for me if I was trying to protect this quote-unquote leaker.

They claimed that I was not safe at work.

They claimed that someone had given my name to the FBI and it was a very,

I felt very coerced and intimidated.

And they, you know, to seal the deal, they said that they wanted my help to expose Dr.

Heim.

And, you know,

I was never going to help them.

There was was not a scenario under the Sun in which I was going to help them and you didn't have the information at the time anyway

no yeah I hadn't again I had no idea who he was

this hospital has 20,000 plus employees like I do not I did not know him

and so anyway they

They were they acted as if they wanted to be my friend, but they said of course if you can if you don't help us we can't protect you and so it was it was very terrifying for me.

And they left, and I just remember looking at my husband in stunned disbelief and shock at what had just transpired.

We were so scared, but we also knew that they had crossed a line and we would not be intimidated into silence.

So everything

after that point, everything changed.

Did you have any moment at all?

I mean, having the FBI come into your home and say those kinds of things and say, we're going to make life miserable for you if you don't help us.

I mean, that's, that feels like Stasi kind of stuff, quite honestly.

Was there a second at all that you went, oh, I don't want to be this person.

I don't want to be here.

I don't want to be here.

You know,

no,

no, absolutely not.

Because,

you know, the hospital has a

reputation of lying to the public.

And I felt like I was helpless.

And I was the only one who

had these deeply, these religious beliefs that motivate everything I do.

And

I felt like I could no longer be silent.

I felt like someone And I know that I'm not the only nurse in America who feels this way.

I know that I'm not the only nurse who has seen illegal things happening in the workplace.

And so I feel a sense of responsibility to bring to light what has been done behind closed doors.

You,

I talk to a lot of people

and some in your situation, and I can hear it in your voice how

nervous.

you are or how

frightened of the situation.

You're not some zealot.

You're just a woman trying to do the right thing.

Can you talk to other nurses?

Because as you said, there are other nurses that see it.

And you said see illegal things happening in the workplace.

Can you talk directly to them and give them courage to speak out as well?

Yes, absolutely.

You know, I believe that the saying is true, that courage is contagious.

It just takes one person.

And

the world is in desperate need of people who will stand for what is good and right and beautiful and true.

And other nurses around the country must feel like they can come forward if they are seeing something illegal happening at their workplace.

You know, do no harm has to mean something.

Medical professionals, you know, whether it's nurses

or others, they just, I want them to feel a sense of responsibility to tell the truth about what they are seeing.

And that's regardless of the outcome.

And so

regardless of the consequences, because the truth is always worth

the truth is always worth it.

So I want for others to feel emboldened and to feel empowered to protect children from irreversible damage and lifelong regret because ultimately it's their lives and their well-being that are at stake.

When you say you saw crimes being committed, you're talking about Medicaid fraud and how was that

done?

Yes.

You know, I started noting some discrepancies in the paperwork, some red flags that were very concerning.

For one, I saw that the hospital was using Medicaid to pay for transgender treatment.

And this is Medicaid fraud, plain and simple.

The Texas Medicaid policy, which is available online, just clearly states that any medications or surgeries related to gender-affirming care are not covered.

And so

in essence,

I saw a healthy teenage boy who was being prescribed estrogen to feminize his facial features and sexual characteristics.

And likewise, a healthy teenage girl was receiving testosterone to masculinize her facial features and sexual characteristics and both in both of these examples the insurance listed on file was Medicaid so it wasn't like they were trying to conceal what was going on this was easily you know it was available

but not only that

The hospital was using Medicaid to pay for transgender treatments, but on several instances, I noted that the patient was intentionally misdiagnosed for the purpose of justifying justifying the prescription of cross-sex hormone.

And that's even worse.

So to justify the medical need for medications like estrogen and testosterone, the hospital was listing false diagnoses for these patients.

So for example,

a biological male was said to have a diagnosis of estrogen deficiency.

And this fraudulent diagnosis allowed providers to prescribe estrogen-based therapies to biological males in order to feminize their physical and sexual characteristics.

And likewise with biological females, you know, a female was said to have a testosterone deficiency, which is ludicrous.

Like,

you know, it's clinically incorrect.

But that then justified the quote-unquote need to prescribe testosterone for a healthy female.

Vanessa, thank you.

Thank you for standing up.

Thank you for remembering who you are.

Thank you for knowing who you serve.

Thank you.

God bless you.

Thank you so much.

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Right.

Yeah.

It was on the front page of our show prep on the day that it happened back last fall, I think.

September, I think.

And we completely forgot about it.

Well, thank God American First Legal did not.

These are the people that are going after the government on

really important issues.

And one of them is the targeting of average citizens.

What was happening was the deep state was weaponizing DHS,

and

they started to release a few of these documents last week because of this court thing.

They shut it down immediately, which is strange and suspicious because they don't ever shut them down.

They just relabel them.

But this was

trying to get you to snitch on your neighbors, going in and influencing teachers.

to get their kids to snitch, to get mothers to snitch.

I mean, it's incredible.

Gene Hamilton is here.

He's not only got the stuff that was released last week, but I think he has some stuff that I didn't hear about

who they're labeling domestic terrorists.

Welcome to the program, Gene.

Glenn, thanks for having me, sir.

You bet.

So let's start at the beginning of the story.

This was something that was done by

the two former Clinton intelligence people, Clapper and Brennan, right?

Correct.

And what was it?

So DHS has had an Office of Intelligence and Analysis since its creation in the Homeland Security Act of 2002.

So it has been around.

It has traditionally been the least effective and

most

in search of purpose organization you could imagine in the entire federal government.

Of course, it was stood up in the wake of 9-11 and the threat of

attacks from terrorist abroad.

But because of misincrease and because it had no actual purpose, it's the same exact entity that over the last 20-odd years has had routine issues with documents and policies that aim to target conservatives or that describe conservative Americans or

Americans with traditional values as though they pose some kind of threat to the country.

So, fast forward to last year, and Joe Biden stands up in advisory committees of so-called experts to help this office figure out what it actually needs to do.

And he stacks this committee with people like John Brennan and people like James Clapper.

And they have meetings in secret behind closed doors, and they start to try to scheme out based on their experience, based on their

political biases, what it is that they think that this office should be doing to achieve its goals.

And so we,

thanks to our litigation that shut this down,

at least in its prior form, this committee, obtained all of their internal notes and all of their internal kind of, you know, documents and discussions.

And we started releasing these last week.

We're releasing another set today,

and we're going to release a set of information every single day this week.

But as a, you know, for example, the group,

and this is something that we released on Friday, described that most of the domestic terrorism threat now comes from supporters of the former president.

And so if that's your framing, and if that's your thinking, and if that's who is advising this committee at the Department of Homeland Security as to how they should do their job and the kinds of things that they should be focused on,

we all know that only bad things come from there.

Only bad things like getting

neighbors to report on neighbors and kids to report on parents and all the kind of stuff that you would never imagine happening in the United States, that you would only traditionally think about happening in communist China or the Soviet bloc or other places, is potentially going to be happening here in the United States if we don't make drastic change in the way that we do things soon.

So, what is coming out today?

What are you releasing today?

Well, we've got a lot more of

the organization's notes today that we're putting out

related to their discussions about

domestic violent extremists

about how there were reservations before January 6th to engaging in monitoring of American chatter and things like that online and that how somehow now post-January 6th of 2021,

maybe there is an appetite for doing so.

Now, this, not, of course, notwithstanding the fact that Congress has repeatedly, and of course, we also have the First Amendment,

but has repeatedly refused to allow law enforcement and intelligence agencies to engage in these types of activities, are things that this group is now discussing

as potentially being within the ambit of stuff that should be looked at for the department, which is just shocking and alarming.

There's a lot more coming, and it will be out here very, very shortly.

The thing that

really concerns me is

these people believe it.

It wasn't like the notes I saw wasn't like they were had people going, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

This is way out of line.

These people believe it.

And if you actually believe that the greatest terrorists are, in fact, I saw a report, might have been from you guys, that it is Trump supporters religious people uh service members and people who fly the flag yep that's right and same committee same committee here is identifying those types of folks um as the greatest threats of uh you know domestic terrorism to the united states now i mean glenn there there's another issue that is underwriting all of this which is it's not just that they're doing this and it's not just that they're they're they view and they truly appear to believe that conservative Americans pose the greatest threat, but it's the same people advising the same department that's responsible for bringing in foreign nationals into the United States, including foreign nationals who are supporters of Hamas, who were going crazy on college campuses all across the country.

And do you think that this same Department of Homeland Security Committee or any of the out or any of its entities within DHS are having discussions about taking action to stop these folks from rioting on college campuses for inciting violence and inciting terrorism and actually finding ways to deport people who are supporters of terrorism from college campuses.

No, of course not.

But they are more than happy to characterize and label conservatives, Trump supporters, people with service in the military, et cetera, as being threats to this country, and that should tell you everything that you need to know.

You know, we've changed the wording of fascism, which is the government

allowing private citizens to own property and to own companies, and they can keep that as long as they do exactly what they're told to do and play ball with the government.

That used to be called fascism.

Now, the Biden administration calls it a public-private partnership with NGOs.

And the public-private partnership is usually where these things end up.

They'll start there, they get shut down, and then they just move money and people over into an NGO.

Any evidence that that has happened with this?

Well, we haven't seen it yet here with this.

That doesn't mean that it's not happening.

Obviously,

every one of your listeners probably understands now that that's precisely the way, of course, that they managed to achieve their censorship goals at the start of the Biden administration was to outsource the censorship model to NGOs and to universities and to other nonprofits that were stood up to engage in the pressure and collaboration and collusion that resulted in Americans' speech being censored by big tech platforms.

And they did it through their allies, their outside allies, because they knew that they couldn't necessarily get away with it on their own.

And so they outsourced it, they put it out.

There's a record, there's a pattern, a practice of them engaging in these types of things.

And so, you know, look, we're going to keep working hard at America First Legal to explore and to expose

and to hold accountable those bad actors who would

subject the American people to violations of the Constitution.

Thank you so much, Gina.

I appreciate it.

Gene is the executive director, senior vice president, general counsel of American First Legal.

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