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We are living in George Orwell's 1984, and that's where we start on today's podcast.

Then, we have a scientist that has been fighting Fauci and been saying he's gonna get us all killed since 2001.

The Blaze just did this incredible story on this guy and how he's been fighting Fauci and what he thinks is coming next.

A story by Leon Wolfe, who joins us on today's program to tell us about it.

Carolyn Roth is here to talk about the economy and did Saudis actually stop the agreement, not quote, renew the agreement of the petrodollar.

Not entirely true, not entirely false.

Also, the FCC,

the Democrats, may be helping George Soros buy the second largest radio network, which I'm on and others are on,

and buy it quickly before the election.

He's asking for special dispensation.

Oh, and spooky dude will probably get it.

Then that IDF spokesperson who says that, you know, Hamas is an idea and you can't fight ideas.

I prove him wrong, I believe.

And so much more on today's podcast.

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Welcome to the Glenbeck Program.

Blaze Media Managing News Editor

is somebody I don't usually have on.

He usually says, no, no, no, no.

Welcome to Leon Wolf.

Hi, Leon.

How are you?

Glenn, thanks so much for having me on the program today.

It's good to talk to you again.

It's been a while.

Yeah, good.

I know.

Good to talk to you.

So, by the way, great stuff happening at the Blaze.

Congratulations.

Blaze.com is better than it's ever, I think, ever been.

By far, better than it's ever been.

And you brought a story story that we're keeping in front of the paywall because it's so important.

You talked to a guy that just doesn't want to talk to anybody.

I don't know

how you got this,

but

there is a guy, a Democrat, who has been fighting against Anthony Fauci and warning that he's going to destroy the world and kill all of us since 2000, what, one?

Yeah, 2001 was really when it began.

You know, I started, you know, researching this.

I wanted to really understand like how, you know, there's been a lot of discussion about gain of function research.

And so I wanted to, you know, like get an understanding.

When did this start?

You know, what's been the pro, you know, the progress of it?

What's the history of it?

What I found, going back to, you know, old news reports,

even as far back as 2001 when the program began, was that there was one name that continued to pop up over and over and over again that when people would go and find people let's get this side of the story that doesn't want this to continue and it was this same guy over and over again and his name is dr.

Richard Ebright and I had followed him on Twitter since the beginning of the pandemic I didn't really know much about him but I thought this is fascinating here's a guy you know I've been following him for two or three years he's been doing this for two decades and I thought to myself you know The world has heard Anthony Fauci's side of this story ad nauseum.

I think somebody should get this guy's side of the story because it feels like he's probably been right.

So I reached out to him, called him, and he immediately graciously agreed to give me his time.

And, you know, what you see is the result of that.

So, in the story, you go on, you know, it was right after 9-11, and we had anthrax, and, you know, we got to prepare in case they start using bioweapons.

And that's when Anthony Fauci started saying, we need gain of function research.

And why was Albright against this?

So Ebright, his position.

Ebright, sorry.

Yeah, Ebright's position, which I think has been vindicated, is that the more biological agents that you put in the hands of researchers,

the more dangerous and not less dangerous that you make it.

Because historically, and this is true,

most biological attacks have not been carried out by terrorists.

They've been carried out by people who are researchers with access to GRIDE,

who released him on purpose.

And in fact, as I'm sure your listeners will remember,

he said that in 2001, the final result of the anthrax investigation was not completed until 2008, totally vindicated that because the person who released all the anthrax was an authorized government researcher who had legal access to the anthrax.

That's how he got a hold of it.

So he's been right about this all along and every step of the way.

And you know, I just think it's remarkably prescient

how accurate he's been.

And I want your listeners, if they can, to put themselves in his shoes, because I think it's hard for me to even imagine this.

Here he is.

He's been saying this for 20 years.

And among other things, he said is, you know, even if nobody releases this on purpose, one day you could have an accident.

He's been warning about this for so long.

Didn't even say that even if it doesn't happen on purpose,

if we are doing this, we're going to have so many labs all around the world that it just increases the chance that something will leak from one of them, right?

That's absolutely correct.

That's absolutely correct.

There was a New York Times did a profile on him 20 years ago, and that was the exact point that he made.

And here comes 2020.

He's been saying this.

Sauci's been poo-pooing him this entire time, saying this is definitely definitely not going to happen.

And lo and behold, here, the thing he's been warning about for 20 years happens.

And he must have thought to himself, finally, it's terrible that this has happened, but at least I'm about to be vindicated.

And amazingly, through the efforts of Fauci,

you know, Fauci convinces the world that he's somehow the good guy in all this.

I might have lost my mind if I had been trying to warn about this for 20 years.

And the guy who's responsible somehow becomes the hero of the whole story.

And he's a registered Democrat.

I mean, he's testified now in front of Congress, and he's a registered Democrat.

He said, I voted for Biden.

I had a Biden sign in my lawn.

And so you can't really make this into a partisan kind of thing.

So

where is he at now?

Are people starting to listen to him at all?

Or is Fauci still going to win on this gain of function stuff?

No, he thinks, and I agree,

that there is an emerging bipartisan consensus that something needs to be done.

And his testimony, I would encourage anybody who hasn't yet, because it was not, it didn't get as much TV coverage as the Fauci hearing

in front of the House a couple of weeks ago.

But his testimony in front of the Senate on Tuesday, him and there were three other witnesses, I thought was a rare example.

Like most of these are just kind of dog and pony shows.

Everybody's showboating for the cameras.

I really felt that the Democrats on the committee, including Gary Peters of Michigan, Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, they were all asking, I thought, really good, intelligent questions that signaled, I think, that people are starting to wake up that we got to get a handle on this.

I mean,

this is literally a threat to the entire existence of humanity that this continues.

I mean, we,

it's tough to say this about a pandemic that killed 20 million in counting, but it could have been so much worse

given what they've been working with this entire time.

And something does need to be done.

And I think it is going to be done probably sooner rather than later.

Did you talk to him at all about this bird flu thing?

Yes.

It's remarkable.

I mean, it's difficult to say for sure, you know, kill 60% of humanized mice.

You know, that humanized mice are intended to, you know, predict with some degree of certainty how many people would actually die if they got the same thing.

So we can't say for certain, but you think about a virus that could spread as efficiently as COVID did that kills 60% of people instead of about 1% of people.

Imagine how devastating that could be.

And they just did this research with no

risk-benefit analysis.

Nobody beforehand said, hey, wait, should we even do this?

I I mean, even the New York Times, you know, back then just absolutely flipped out about it.

I mean, they did an editorial that was not written by a single person, but the entire editorial board signed on and says, this research should never have happened, and the virus they created should have been destroyed.

And that just wasn't happening.

Just didn't happen.

So, does he think it's going to happen with bird flu?

Does he think that this is real?

You know, it's

obviously is a concern.

I don't know, you know,

where the path of it is going to go, but it certainly is a concern among livestock currently in the United States.

And just the prayer at this moment is that it doesn't jump into the human population and become transmissible in the way that they intentionally made it so in 2011.

We are dealing with a world of mad scientists, from the tech world with AI to

Fauci and

all of the things that we're doing there with

nuclear weapons.

We are living

in a time where the leadership of science has gone insane, insane, and we're going to pay a price.

Yeah, it's,

you know, reading through this stuff,

and the problem is that for so long

we have taken their word for it that this research that they're doing, and I was guilty of this as well, they assured us, you know, this is being done at the most secure facilities, it's all completely safe, please don't worry, everything is on lockdown.

And you read and hear about stuff where they were found to be transporting highly dangerous infectious materials around the halls of CDC in Ziploc bags, leaving them unlocked in refrigerators that had anybody in the building, including janitorial staff, had access to.

Smallpox vials laying around in unlocked storage areas.

I mean, it's absolutely insane.

Researchers accidentally sent deadly H5N1 bird flu to researchers.

and mislabeled it as non-deadly H9N2.

And the researchers only knew about it when they opened the vials, gave it to chickens, and all the chickens died right away.

They were were like, wait a minute, this wasn't supposed to happen.

Just send this stuff through the mail.

It's absolutely,

it's insane the level of negligence that we have seen from the scientific community.

And when you put all that together, it's very clear.

They should not be continued to allow to handle this.

I mean, it can't continue this way.

There's a story now on theblaze.com, Lab Wars, Inside One Democrat's 20-year-old crusade to save the world from

Anthony Fauci, part one.

And it is in front of the paywall, so everybody can get it.

I just want you to know, Blaze.com is asking people for $3 a month.

If you read the Blaze,

$3 a month.

That's it.

And it will unlock all of the stories that we have.

Now, these are not the aggregate stories, the stories that everybody has, that are easily rewritten or everything else.

By the way, we do not use AI.

We never will use AI.

So those stories are rewritten or put together by actual human beings.

But then we have upped our commitment to investigations,

to

real journalism, actual journalism.

The rest of the media will go to the government and they'll get the money and they'll just become one in lockstep with the government even more than they are right now.

They can't afford to do journalism because they don't have the audience like we have that

are reliable and know that we're doing our best to tell the truth and you're not getting this anywhere else.

So if you like these stories or you read the Blaze, you can join Blaze TV and add this on

or you can just go to theblaze.com and subscribe.

It's $3 a month and you'll get stories like this.

The stories and the blaze, the blaze, and I said this to you earlier, and I just said this to somebody else,

you know,

one of the executives at the Blaze.

The Blaze has never, ever been anywhere close to as good as it is right now.

So thank you for that, Leon.

And thank you, Glenn, and thanks to Matthew and Tyler for the work that they've done on that as well.

And I just want to encourage your readers, as you note, this is part one.

Part two is probably going to drop early next week.

Part three is the really scary part because what's incredible to me is that after all this has happened, and I understand that people disagree about the lab leak theories, we don't know that it's definitely true, we don't know that it's not true, but I think everybody at this point would admit probably it's at least 50% true that this happened.

And the takeaway of this from the scientific community is not we need to stop doing this research.

It's we need to do even more and more dangerous research.

It's really terrifying.

So unless something happens, we could be looking at a very serious situation.

I think this is is the most important story I've ever covered by far

in all my years of doing this.

Well, Leon, thank you so much for your work.

I appreciate it.

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Before we get to Carol, I want to give you some highlights from this Blaze Media and the Blaze.com story, Biden's Phony Numbers, Mass True Economic Pain.

The official government numbers in the U.S.

economy have been contradictory and confusing for quite a while now.

What is clear upon closer examination is that the federal government's overspending and over-regulation are doing serious damage to the economy, and we have yet to see the worst results of those policies.

The unemployment increase seems to contradict recent signs that the economy has been weakening.

In addition to the conflicting rise in unemployment, other signs of deterioration include stagnant retail sales, a slowing of consumer spending, weak industrial production, manufacturing orders, increasing consumer debt depressed by new housing starts, falling annual earnings of full-time employees, and rising commodity prices.

The Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell admitted he believes the White House has been cooking the books.

This is the Fed chair.

Stating last week, week, you have payroll jobs still coming in strong, even though there's an argument they may be a bit overstated.

The only job growth in the U.S.

is for illegal aliens.

Listen to that.

The only job growth in the U.S.

are for those illegal aliens who will work for below minimum wage, which also explains why inflation hasn't spiked in the past year as millions of illegal aliens were were hired.

Legally resident American workers saw no job increase in the past year, and unlawful residents, willing to accept wages Americans can't, are dragging everything down in the wage category.

With employment conditions for American workers stagnant at best, the job market is another indicator that the economic growth

is slowing and the Federal Reserve should lower interest rates to reduce its suppression of economic activity.

However, they decided not to because

it will spike inflation again.

The markets have already priced three expected interest rate reductions for the year.

However, suggesting

a correction is in order.

Even so, the stock market stayed steady after the Fed's interest rate announcement, with the Dow falling slightly and the SP 500 in NASDAQ rising to new record highs.

Economist Robert

Jensijensky-Janetsky calculates that the S ⁇ P 500 is currently overvalued by 34%.

If investors decide the market is near peak and start selling, taking their profits before prices fall, there is more trouble.

This overspending continues from the federal government as well.

In the first eight months of the current fiscal year, the federal government has already accumulated more than $1.02 trillion

in additional debt, with a staggering deficit of $348 billion

last month alone.

Investors reportedly believe the U.S.

economy is about to enjoy a significant expansion because of AI.

That's boosting the stock markets, the shares in tech companies, chip makers, and even utilities.

The government stimulus injection may be waning and the Fed's interest rate hikes starting to bite, as indicated by the slowing housing and manufacturing production.

Higher interest rates hinder businesses from investing in production and consumers from spending on goods that support those businesses.

Additionally, the Biden administration has implemented a regulatory program that will directly cost the economy $3.95 trillion

in 2025

and indirectly result in a staggering $75.05 trillion in opportunity costs for 2025

alone.

That might take a bite

no matter what AI is going to do.

Carol Roth is here with us.

Carol, are we beginning to see all of the signs of the wheels coming off of this thing?

I think we've been seeing the signs of the wheels coming off of this thing for quite some time,

and they're sort of hanging on by a thread.

Now certainly a lot of the numbers that are put forth are meant to window dress and say, oh no look, the wheels are still turning and they're doing just fine and they're going to last for a while.

But we have seen cracks and when you peel back the onion and you look at things like the deficits to GDP, which are about two times the historic average, at a time when they're telling us there is an expansion, we know there's something wrong.

Because normally when you have an expanding economy, that means you're taking in more revenue at the government level, and that means that you're running less of a deficit because you have more money input.

What's happening now is the Biden administration has flipped that on its head, and they're using deficits to window-dress the appearance that we have growth.

And we're seeing that start to crack because even that window-dressed growth is starting to come down.

We saw the first quarter GDP come in almost a percentage point lower than expectations on the first reading.

The second reading was even lower.

So now, as is at the second reading, we're at 1.3%

for the first quarter, and we're expecting a third reading.

And we know things keep getting revised and revised.

So, all of the

appearances that they're putting forth to make it seem like everything looks great, we've seen those cracks, and they're just becoming larger and larger.

So, do you think that there's any way possible that anything,

excuse the pun here, trumps the economy?

I mean, they always say in elections, you know, it's the economy, stupid.

And no matter how you window dress this, everyone knows I don't have as much money or my money doesn't go as far as it used to and I'm having a hard time keeping up.

At almost every level, this is happening.

So this is an interesting question.

There was a mom-mouth poll that came out yesterday that showed far and away that the economy was the biggest issue, number one issue on people's minds.

But there is a disconnect by party.

And obviously, when you have the Republican side, and I would think to some extent the Independents as well, there's more of a connection with the fiscal reality that's going on.

And it becomes, you know, we cannot afford literally four more years of that.

There's a disconnect from the Democrats who don't believe in math and reality anyway.

And so even though they may be hurting personally, they're going to make excuses and say that it's for any sort of litany of other reasons and it doesn't have anything to do with these specific policies that we know have driven these outcomes, whether it's things like the American Rescue Plan and the direct stimulus, that's literally called stimulus, that overstimulated the economy and caused inflation, they're going to tell you, oh no, look, inflation has come down,

even though they're still going to the same grocery stores, the same gas stations, having to pay the same rents, and they're believing in buying into the gaslighting.

So that's my concern, is when you have so many people who are decoupled from reality and being fed this propaganda and this gaslighting, and they're willing to eat it for

basically

their cults, that that is not going to show up in the polls the way that it should if we were operating with some sort of normal baseline.

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So this is trending on X right now, and it's about Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari.

He's the IDF spokesman, and you've seen him possibly in press conferences and interviews and video clips, trying to show the world what Gaza really is like.

The terror tunnels under the houses and the streets and the yards of deep and hundreds of miles long and filled with weapons and workshops and schools and the weapons and the UN facilities, the command posts under the hospitals, missile launchers everywhere.

That's what he's been doing, and he's seemed really solid.

Until last week, he was in doing an Israeli TV interview.

Sorry, it wasn't last week, it was this week.

And he said, whomever thinks it's possible to destroy Hamas is wrong.

Hamas is an idea.

Whomever thinks it's possible to make it disappear is wrong.

What?

No,

you're wrong.

First of all, Hamas isn't just an idea.

Ideas grow and and grow until they become almost an entity.

This is the demonic embodiment of timeless, ageless hate.

It is a culture of death and child sacrifice.

It is one of the worst evils humanity has ever produced.

And it starts with the Nazis.

Yes, it's core ideas.

But Hamas is more than just an idea.

It is like the Nazis.

That was more than Mein Kampf.

Stalin's USSR was more than Marxist ramblings.

Yes, all of the ideas were at their core.

Yes, Nazism is an idea.

And we haven't wiped Nazism out after all of this time.

It's still here.

And it's thriving in Hamas and other places in the Middle East.

Yes, hatred dies hard.

And no,

we no longer need reminders that anti-Semitism is incredibly difficult to get rid of.

Thank you very much.

Yes, we still have murder, we still have violence, we still have rape, we still have theft.

Not even the Ten Commandments could do away with those.

Not only God Himself might have something to do with the way God created us and gave us freedom of choice.

It has something to do with human nature, I'm pretty sure.

But should we have given up on eradicating the Nazi part of Nazi Germany?

Should we have stopped at Berlin's gates?

You know, we can't win.

Nazism is an idea.

It can't be eliminated.

There's really no point.

We should stop this.

Should we have done that?

Should we have allowed Stalin to take the whole world?

Should we end all policing like they're starting to here in America because someone's always going to steal and murder?

I don't know if if you've seen that where they are trying to do things like that.

It's not going real great.

I'm up here in the mountains, the mountain west.

We're mowing our lawn in front.

We just have field grass.

We mowed the front of the lawn around the house.

So no rattlesnakes are right up against the house.

Well, there'll always be snakes.

Yeah, but shouldn't we at least try to keep the snakes away?

Couldn't we try to, I don't know, take them, at least remove those that are right at your feet of your children or under your children's bed for the love of peace?

Or will you just say, you know, there's always snakes.

Honey, I'm not going to mow the lawn.

There will always be snakes.

Are you seriously suggesting that we're not better off than we would be had we left the Nazis in in power?

Or if the USSR hadn't lost the Cold War?

Are you seriously trying to say

that we wouldn't be better off?

Yeah, you're right.

Their ideas are not dead and maybe they never will be.

But Nazi Germany is dead and the world is immeasurably better for it.

It's not just an idea.

It's not just an entity now.

It's a government.

Shouldn't we not try to take out Hamas?

Take out every last member we can?

Deny it both rule over territory and the ability to harm anyone ever again?

You know, well, it's just Israel, Israel, Israel.

Really,

really,

do you think that when they're done with Israel, they'll stop with the Jews?

History has shown that we can.

You know why we fight communism so hard now?

Because the left infiltrated our schools, our media, and everything else, and whitewashed the Soviet Union.

Stalin was worse than Hitler far as death toll.

But we don't watch documentaries about Russia all the time, do we?

I don't know why.

But boy, they've made quite a killing on the Nazi stuff.

And maybe it's because the Nazis had snappy uniforms designed by Hugo Boss.

Maybe it's because

a country we could relate to as one of the scientific wonders of the world suddenly went dark and insane.

But we've taught it over and over and over again how bad that is.

And yes, that idea still is around.

But we're not fighting a government.

This, I think, was a huge boost to Hamas's morale

and that of its friends.

And poison for the Israeli morale.

Are they in a fight that the IDF itself doesn't think it can succeed and win?

If you're fighting and you don't believe that you can and will prevail, then you will not prevail.

Think about all of those who have fought and died and bled.

The hundreds of thousands of Israelis still displaced from their homes, almost nine months in, the millions who fear and pray for their relatives and friends in uniform, the millions more who understand that if Hamas doesn't die today,

if we don't take out this snake and mow the lawns and cut the heads off of all of them we can find, it will come back tomorrow and maybe bring some friends and do worse than last time.

Was this message approved by his government?

Because the government is supposed to be in control of the army.

The government said the Security Cabinet, chaired by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, has defined the destruction of Amas military and

governing capabilities as one of the goals of the war.

The IDF, of course, is committed to this.

Okay,

this should terrify everybody, not just Israelis.

Because at best, this is politics.

Israelis trust the IDF to the rank of colonel.

Anybody above that, it's political appointments, you know, at least as much as their military merit appointments.

They don't trust them just like we don't trust ours.

We trust our soldiers, but when you get up on top of the Pentagon, it's all politics.

Same thing, except Israel's government is in real trouble.

It may fall, the parliamentary system and all.

Netanyahu's chief rival has left the war cabinet now during a hot war for obviously political motives.

At worse, this is a sign of one more very serious breakdown in the West's moral fiber.

This time,

it's the last useful fighting force in the area.

This isn't about refugees.

This isn't about territory.

This is about good versus evil.

Civilizational,

existential.

Not just for Israel.

The West is riddled with supporters of Hamas.

And they're clones.

They're marching in our own streets.

Do you think if Hamas is re-energized, it's going to be good for America?

Our common enemies declare openly and often that they intend to take down the great Satan, not just the little one.

Israel is the little Satan.

We are the great Satan.

They will come for the, as they say, the Sunday people, not just the Saturday people.

If Israel fails in this, the world will be darker for it, but it will not stop there.

They will come for the rest of us.

This

spokesperson is all I can

is wrong.

We must stand.

We have to take out the monsters.

and defend the house.

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